World Cup With Roger Bennett, 2X National Champ Alex Karaban, Knicks Parade, Ronaldo vs Messi And Fyre Fest Of The Week

12:02Big Cat:Sitting down.

12:03PFT Commenter:But like I said, it's almost like when you know you have a long travel day and you have a couple layovers or whatever. and you say hey you know what this is gonna suck i'm gonna put my head down parts of this is gonna suck but we're just gonna put our head down get through it the the getting on and off the subway getting to and from the parade that part's gonna suck everything else you just don't care because you're drunk and you're having the best time ever and it looked like incredible euphoric everything

12:26Big Cat:new york showed out i and i think the fact that we're not nicks fans is probably a pretty big reason why we wouldn't like to do that but if you are a nicks fan it's like every interaction you're having that day is probably a good one yeah probably like yes this is awesome i'm around the i'm around my people right in fact i heard one person that's on the ground they're saying that um your people are just looking each other in the eye on the street and just saying champion oh to each other okay that's like the new york the jeep wave of new yorkers nice it sounds like it's a real thing that's happening according to the source that's on the ground champion um we

12:57PFT Commenter:did you guys see riko bosco is the source on the ground oh wow saying my favorite part of winning

13:02Big Cat:is people just looking at you and saying champion dude that must happen a lot happens all the time

13:06PFT Commenter:We had, I think, Carmelo Soprano was on a boat. Bobby Bacala, I saw. Okay. Mike Breen. By the way, Mike Breen, I don't know if he was specifically talking about us, but he did confirm to both Jimmy Turana and I think it was Craig Carton's show that he was going to do a triple bang if Brunson had hit that three in game four. And I think the quote he used with Craig Carton was something like, it became a thing because of those two knuckleheads that I talked to. A couple of knuckleheads. Yeah. Yeah. Listen, that is an incredible compliment of Mike Breen. He doesn't have to know who we are, what the show is.

13:41PFT Commenter:But if he's like, yeah, those two knuckleheads, I'm like, thank you, Mike Breen. I love you.

13:45Big Cat:The fact that he was going to send out a triple bang to some knuckleheads, that's pretty cool. And I believe him because he said that's why he went triple. It's good. Yep. And then I saw a lot of replays recently of that three-pointer that Bronson took that led to the OG tip-in. And it looks like Wimby got a fingertip on it. Yep. making the shot fall short, making OG be able to run in there and tip it in. The soft landing, yeah. It is really just, man, this is going to be an NBA Finals that we talk about I feel like for decades. Yeah. I really do. Hank, what do you think? I agree.

14:16PFT Commenter:I don't think so. I think you guys are prisoners of the moment. Nah. You'll say this next year too.

14:20Big Cat:Nah. I don't think so. I think this is it. No, I have seen some New York Knicks fans saying that this championship for them feels like three or four for another franchise. Just because of how much it means to the city and how long they've waited for it what do you think about that hank i mean good for them i that's fine it was one championship but it feels like more definitely feels like it feels like the biggest one out of that run where we've got like a new champion every year it probably feels like the biggest one max what do you think to them

14:54PFT Commenter:um i i don't know how i'm supposed to answer this question okay he's still stuck on the subway thing that's it's still got him no because i've had championships too so i yeah no and the graphic

15:04Big Cat:that shows like the last nba champions and oh you know how many years has it been since we've had a

15:08PFT Commenter:repeat eight in a row eight in a row this one does feel very memorable especially i mean if you're comparing the celebrations between knicks fans compared to the celebrations between celtics

15:20Big Cat:fans when they won i wasn't directly but now that you bring it up i'm inclined to agree there's There's probably a little bit of parade fatigue in Boston. No.

15:31PFT Commenter:I mean, Hank said himself. He was like, I couldn't really get that excited. What? You were killing them, and you guys went viral for the worst celebration. We were up by 40. We had been celebrating the whole game.

15:46Big Cat:Yeah, you couldn't even get that excited for the final whistle.

15:50PFT Commenter:Okay.

15:50Big Cat:Because I think that New York. Again, we wipe off the whiteboard.

15:55PFT Commenter:Yeah. We've gone zero days since making the next championship above the Celtics.

15:59Big Cat:I didn't do that. I'm just saying that New York, they have been thirsty for a championship. They've been starving for a championship, and they got it, so they're going to celebrate for a while. Boston, on the other hand, it does feel like they, like it's like every year, oh, I got to go to another parade again. Okay, I guess I'll buy my ticket. Okay, I guess we'll cue the duck boat. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

16:16PFT Commenter:Blah, blah, blah, he hit you with the blah, blah, blah, blah. Should we talk about the other big news in the NBA? Trey Young? Yeah, Max has actually been looking forward

16:23Big Cat:to talking about this more than I have.

16:24PFT Commenter:He was mad that we weren't able to talk about it. I said save it for the show at like 1030 this morning, and he's been angry that he hasn't been able to talk about it since. I don't really know. So Trae Young opted out of his deal, declined his$48.97 million player option for the 2026-27 season. He is technically going to become a free agent on Monday. I would assume this is just him re-signing a different deal with the Wizards.

16:51Big Cat:rumors of Trey looking elsewhere have been described by sources as nonsense okay I'm just I'm just reading the reports I know it's foreign for some people in in this room and on this podcast that a player would want to come back to your team after not having a contract but that's what Trey's right Trey just went on the pivot or whatever that podcast was like three days ago and talked about how the Wizards could be a one seed no one's talking about it I'm pretty sure treyong is going to leave technically in free he's going to become a free agent then he's going to sign like a three-year deal for a lower average annual value than 38.97 uh so he wants to stick around and maybe listen we just saw what the new york knicks did with jill and brunson taking a pay cut he's going to lower his average annual salary so that we can build around him so we can we can develop a good team around him hank what do you think about that's interesting we all agree though

17:46PFT Commenter:that would be so funny if he went somewhere else. I don't think he'd be. I don't think he's going to. The Wizards are a front runner. It did not say that the Wizards.

17:55Big Cat:I don't think he'd be that funny if he went somewhere else. I disagree with that, too.

17:59PFT Commenter:It would be hilarious if he went somewhere else.

18:02Big Cat:I disagree.

18:03PFT Commenter:It would be the funniest if he went somewhere else. After we made an Instagram account called DaWizzler about how excited we are for this new core of the Wizards, that before you even get to that point, the guy is gone.

18:20Big Cat:First of all, Dad, it's TikTok, not Instagram. Sorry, I'm sorry. Second of all, Brian Windhorst says that he's going to resign. So how about that? Wendy's got sources. Brett Siegel says it's nonsense that he's looking. This was completely expected. I knew this was coming. You guys have apparently never paid attention to an NBA offseason in your lives if you don't know how this type of thing works. He was always going to opt out. He's always going to come back. He knows the Wizards are building something. He wants to be part of a special future with a special franchise with special people. And to do that and to make room for more special people, he needs to take a slight pay cut, come back longer.

18:56Big Cat:Itty bitty pay cut. I have a question.

18:59PFT Commenter:You said you always knew this was going to happen. Always. Zach, could you pull up PFT's tweet of when this first got announced?

19:05Big Cat:Yeah, please do, Zach. I would love to see that, Zach.

19:07PFT Commenter:This doesn't seem like a quote of someone who always knew this was going to happen. I know. I think it does. Keep going. This may take... Keep going. Right there. Go back up. Zach, could you read that? If you love something, set it free. If it comes back, it's yours. If it doesn't, it never was.

19:31Big Cat:That actually makes perfect sense. Thank you for bringing that up, Max.

19:35PFT Commenter:Oh, man. That is a quote that is like... I want... Because I'm on team, it would be very funny if Trae Young went somewhere else. I want so badly to agree with the guy whose visor is, I think at this point, becoming a medical emergency to what it's doing for his, to his brain. Yeah. Max, that quote makes perfect sense for this situation. Thank you. Thank you. It's, it couldn't be, it couldn't be a more perfect quote. What are you doing, dude? Max, we're letting him go.

20:04Big Cat:He's becoming a free agent and then he's going to come back to us. Yes. If it comes back, it's yours.

20:10PFT Commenter:If it doesn't, it never was.

20:12Big Cat:Yes, correct. He's going to come back.

20:14PFT Commenter:But that is a quote that you say. You've never heard that you love something set free? Yeah, but yes. But that is someone who is preparing for the possibility that he does not come back. A hundred percent. But if he doesn't, it never was. Max, he's coming back. But that is not what he said was, I always knew this was going to happen. You know what's crazy? This was never a worry. That is not a quote. That is not a worry.

20:37Big Cat:Look at you. Emotional. The Wizards live rent free inside your head. And it's our head here. Rent free. rent free i am right in this get in on the win doesn't it never was is not a i knew that i knew

20:49PFT Commenter:that this was going to happen i have no worries that that he's going to come back you know what's

20:53Big Cat:honestly pathetic about this whole thing it's pathetic that i'm right you're trying to insist that i'm wrong when this entire time you could be bringing up the fact that alexar broke his foot but you but you haven't that's that's where you should be if you that means nothing if you weren't wearing a tight visor that was cutting off your brain you would bring that up by now but you haven't trey young's all you got trey young's mine and he's not going anywhere well not right now

21:17PFT Commenter:not right now not right now right now he's technically not yours technically he's not right yours he is he's ours no no no no he's a free agent right now he's not yours i thought he became

21:29Big Cat:a free agent on monday okay i guess right now okay all right there we go oh pft's right again What else is new? Knocking him down. Get your facts straight if you want to talk about the Wizards, bitch. Do it. The quote I still stand by. Learn ball. Learn contracts. He's going to be back. Everything will be fine. We're going to become the next rival to the Knicks. We're probably going to win a championship in the next five years. We're going to have a better parade.

21:54PFT Commenter:Hank, you got to get involved here. You're killing me.

21:57Big Cat:Hank's out.

21:58PFT Commenter:How? The quote makes perfect sense. The quote does not make perfect sense. The quote does not make perfect sense for someone who is completely expecting this person to come back. Now, you do not say that quote if you're like, oh, this is a nothing thing.

22:13Big Cat:You do not say that quote if you think that he's gone.

22:19PFT Commenter:No, but you're opening up the possibility for him to be gone. I think the quote makes perfect sense. If you want to make the argument that PFT maybe didn't know that he was going to opt out, I could buy that. Because, like, you might not have known that he was going to opt out.

22:32Big Cat:He's been giving quotes this entire offseason about how he's looking forward to building something for the future in D.C. So when you first saw the opt-out, were you a little bit nervous for like a brief second? It's more about like all the tags I was getting in the span of about 15 seconds on Twitter. Where it was like, oh shit, something's going on. What happened? And then I saw a big graphic of Trey Young on it. And then I had to zoom in and read the dialogue. And then I had to search his name to find out what was actually going on. And then consult with experts. with experts in the field before I jump to conclusions.

23:06Big Cat:And yeah, he'll be back. And it's all good. And my season tickets are going to, if anything, increase in value. So I'm not worried about that either. Okay, so we're officially not worried. Not worried. I am not worried about Trey Young. Print it. But it sure sounds like Max is.

23:22PFT Commenter:Max might be a little worried about Trey Young. I just want funny outcomes. It would be the funniest outcome. I'm just rooting for funny. Sorry I'm a fan of comedy over here Actually the funniest would be if Anthony Davis Was like I only wanted to play with Trey Young I also want to trade That also would be funny All of these things would be funny

23:43Big Cat:Keep your eye on what the Wiz do Everything's on the table in the next week or so We could make some moves, could make another trade We don't know Could make a draft pick Definitely going to make a draft pick You don't know, anything could happen In all seriousness where I think this stems from is the fact that the Wizards have been completely irrelevant and their front office has been a joke for the last 30, 40 years, which is fair, and it's fair to judge them off a lot of stuff that they've done. So they see something like that and they think, oh yeah, it's just the Wizards, they're just basically a parking lot for bad contracts, and then as soon as those bad contracts are done, the Wizards will gladly give up their players and whatever assets they have to other teams in the league just for the greater good of the actual franchises that have good front offices where the Wizards are just like, yeah, you know what?

24:32Big Cat:We'll talk to the Wiz. We'll trade our 15th overall pick for their fourth overall pick, and the Wizards will do it because that's the right thing to do, and they only serve to make us better because we're a real team, and they're not. Those days are over. We have a competent front office. We're building something. We've been building something for the last three years, and now it's about to come to fruition, and I'm glad that we've spent more time talking about the Wizards than the New York champion Knicks and their parade, and I'm glad that we're rent free inside Max's tight little head he's gotta take that thing off it's fucking him off bad it's a good visor, it's a great visor I hate that I wasn't

25:08PFT Commenter:it's gonna look like I took it off in this show but I didn't take it off because you have it off? no, because we take Fyre Fest earlier and I didn't have it on for Fyre Fest so technically I am going to take this off

25:21Big Cat:Max will do whatever we say, he took it off can I be honest with you, it'd be pretty funny if okay yeah hilarious all right good and anthony davis were just like yeah we're out yeah handshake

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27:34Big Cat:Well, in fairness to Hank, I think we should put up to a vote, which we should talk about first, the World Cup or the U.S. Open. Because Hank's not happy with the current state of soccer inside this office. World Cup. Let's do World Cup.

27:46PFT Commenter:No, it's the U.S. Open. Shinnecock. it's a hell of a championships uh champion championship course yeah because it's got guys we're right now we're taping this uh the leader is minus two the leader in the clubhouse minus two as well uh rory's minus one it seems like it's a miserable experience and i love it we've

28:08Big Cat:got a couple of amateurs that shot two under today which is pretty cool for them um it looks windy as fuck they had to do a fog delay early this morning even though as uh as frankie borelli pointed out to us earlier that they have the ball spotters that have the flags they go out there and they like mark the drives in case they go into the rough or whatever um apparently the usga thought those weren't that like they weren't capable of doing their job so they had to do a fog delay and i think there was some high winds that got even windier um and then right off the bat was harry higgs that hit that shot to like 12 feet and then it rolled off the green 45 yards away it rolled 45 yards off crazy and this is why we this is why we root for the course yeah us open the course as they said last year about oakmont they've lost the course i love it the course is off the chain it's got a mind of its own you can no longer control it i am become death destroyer of worlds is what the usga is saying right now and uh it's out for blood it's awesome to watch

29:09PFT Commenter:Bryson, by the way, is 200 through four. Just hit it over a highway. But yeah, this course rocks. And the wind is gnarly. It's great. I love having one tournament a year where it just truly is like even par wins and everyone's just struggling and it's just miserable.

29:32Big Cat:It's just fun to watch. And everybody feels like we feel when we play. Yes. That's what's really nice to watch. You deserve to feel it too. Yeah.

29:41PFT Commenter:It's a lot of fun to watch. Hank, why do you hate the World Cup?

29:45Big Cat:I don't hate the World Cup. I don't. Yeah, you do. I don't. Don't be afraid to say it.

29:51PFT Commenter:Don't put words in my mouth again. Okay.

29:54Big Cat:Can I just do a recap of some of the things that you've said about the World Cup over the last couple weeks?

29:57PFT Commenter:The fandom of people in this office.

30:00Big Cat:The most common thing I've heard from Hank is... Yeah.

30:04PFT Commenter:He said today... Doing a lot of fart sounds. He's going out of town this weekend, but then... And so Max invited him to the bar for the game, the U.S. Men's National Team game on Friday, today. And Hank was like, well, I'm going out of town. And Max said, oh, yeah, that's right. And Hank followed it up with, even if I wasn't, I wouldn't go. Nice. Just really let you know. Hey, just so you know, it wouldn't have happened regardless. I just, and this probably is a little bit hater of me, but the amount of fake soccer fans that are coming out of the woodwork in this office. Like, I walked into a gambling game.

30:40PFT Commenter:We have eight TVs in the gambling cave. Four of them were on one soccer game. They didn't even have the U.S. Open on. And it was Switzerland versus Bolivia of Herzegoda, whatever. Like, these teams that no one cares about, and they're not even watching. They're acting like, oh, this is a huge game. Let's lock in on this soccer. I get rooting for USA I get watching the Portugals and the Argentinas, sure but to act like every game of the World Cup is let's sit down and lock in on these games it's performative, there's a lot of performative soccer fandom going on and I'm just I'm not doing it

31:24Big Cat:I think number one, we should let people enjoy things and then number two, you're a company man Hank, you appreciate things that make us money here at Barstow's course. Would it interest you to know that there's a live stream going on for that game that was specifically sold to be a branded live stream watch along for, as you put it, would you say Switchland? It wasn't. I was in the gambling cave. There was no live stream going on. That's just false. That is 100 % fault. That wasn't for that game. I was told that we had a live stream today.

31:50PFT Commenter:No. We might later, but that game happened. Oh, wait. That's the one that's going on right now. Yeah. There's no live stream? Nope. You sure? Yeah, I was in the cave. I was sitting in the cave. You sure you weren't live? I think so. I hope not. You might have been live. I don't think we were. I hope he's wrong. Let's see. Oh, man. Either way, listen, I'm not the biggest soccer fan. I'm not going to pretend that I'm like the rest of the year. Is it live? Oh, shit. The rest of the year, like, I care. But... Start to apologize? What? With Pitty, would you like to apologize?

32:26Big Cat:For what? My second point? Yeah. Yeah, there was no live stream. Okay. But my first point stands, which is let people enjoy things.

32:32PFT Commenter:Yeah, I like watching the World Cup. I like watching sports in the middle of the day. I think it's the countries, the reaction videos of small countries just scoring a goal is awesome. And then my favorite thing that's happened since we've last taped, Messi, he has always been my goat. We're going to get into it with Raj. We also are going to get the reasoning behind Zach's Ronaldo fandom at the end of the show in Fyre Fest. Messi breaking out with a hat trick to start the World Cup was incredible. I love it so much. People have been saying that he's done for years. Did you see the clip? There was a clip from the 2018 World Cup where the announcer said it was surely Messi's last World Cup match and perhaps his last with his country.

33:20PFT Commenter:he'll be 35 year olds when the next world cup and and cutter arrives oh he won that one by the way yeah this was in 2018 it's 2026 he on on tuesday night scored a hat trick to open the world cup exactly 20 years since his first world cup game he is now the the tide for the lead for most world cup goals he is my goat he's so incredible i also love this one guy who said uh i respect Messi's greatness this will this will have to be in the takeies I respect respect Messi's greatness but I'm fully convinced he's going goalless this World Cup and Argentina are getting grouped he holds them back bookmark this and come back when it happens now this one was interesting because when he says he holds them back that actually is happening with Portugal

34:09Big Cat:and Ronaldo yeah it was ugly yesterday there was no worse two-day span I think in the history of this debate than the last few days so um ronaldo looked awful he looked angry he looked like a diva and if you want to talk about like holding your team back there you can watch the replays of ronaldo during his team's game he blames his goalie for letting in a goal like directly gets in his face like hey why don't you go out and catch that and then at one point his teammate hits a bicycle kick and then ronaldo immediately his his first reaction is not to celebrate holy shit what an awesome goal his first reaction is raising his hand in the air and be like hey that ref called you off sides though so let's not celebrate he seems like and the tricky part is like everybody that's on that team with him grew up idolizing and worshiping ronaldo and so there's nobody in that country that's capable of saying like hey man you suck now please stop playing even though there should be because this exact same thing happened in qatar in 2022 yep so we You should have known that it was happening.

35:12PFT Commenter:Oh, yeah, because he actually hasn't scored a goal in over 1 ,000 international game minutes.

35:17Big Cat:Yep. And I think the most recent one that he scored was a penalty kick. Yeah. Pinaldo. If it's not a penalty, he's not getting out of bed for it. Oh, it's so great. This is one of my favorite takes. This is from Paul Watson. Not the Prison Planet guy, but a different Paul Watson. He said, I've said it before. Portugal need to organize a fake World Cup for Cristiano Ronaldo during the real thing. So he believes he's playing against the Congo when all the players are actually actors. Genuinely think he'd fall for it. Not sure he knows who any of his teammates are anyway. He's not wrong. Nope. He's not wrong.

35:48Big Cat:Nope. Could you imagine anybody ever saying that about Messi? No. Zach, you have the floor. Defend your goat.

35:55PFT Commenter:You know, as a Ronaldo fan, you really wanted to,

35:57Big Cat:there was a thought in the back of your head, like he'll kind of, he'll see his new role on the team, be able to kind of not take a backseat, but kind of let other guys shine,

36:05PFT Commenter:do a little bit of facilitating, not just think everything runs through him. He hasn't been able to do that yet. There's another game coming up in a couple days. Maybe he'll be able to put that aside and kind of – maybe this is a sobering moment because you know he's seeing all of it online. You know Messi lives rent-free probably in the back of his soul. So, yeah, a lot of – In the back of his soul. A lot of ball to be played. Yeah, you hated to see it. You really did. Renato, go, but better days ahead. But no.

36:30Big Cat:But maybe – no, maybe not better days, though. Have you thought about that? Like, better days is –

36:34PFT Commenter:I certainly have, yeah. This could be – he could just do – yeah. He could never score another World Cup goal again.

36:39Big Cat:I'd say that's probably a decent bet.

36:40PFT Commenter:There's a high chance, yeah.

36:42Big Cat:And what does this mean for his legacy? I think we have to have legacy talk now. Tarnished forever.

36:47PFT Commenter:I wouldn't say tarnished forever. I don't know.

36:49Big Cat:I don't know. Big Cat, I've got my new top five. Okay. This is what we talk about in the barbershops, which are top five. Hey, PFT, which are top five soccer players. I got my top five. Okay. Number one, Messi. Unequivocally. Yep. Number two, Maradona. He was my number one until Messi won a World Cup. Now Maradona's number two. Number three, Pele. changed the game. Number four, Gigi Buffon, the goalkeeper from Italy for like 20 years. One of the greatest to ever do it. Number five, Luis Figo, one of the best midfielders of all time. Portuguese legend.

37:19PFT Commenter:Okay, so mine is pretty similar. We have the exact same top three. I go Messi, Maradona, Pele, and then my number four soccer player of all time is just going to be Messi again because he's that good. And my And number five, I am going to take Ronaldo, the Brazilian one.

37:40Big Cat:Yeah.

37:41PFT Commenter:Because he was way better. Well, then I've got. And if he didn't get drugged before the 98 World Cup final, they probably would have won.

37:46Big Cat:That's actually a different list that I have is my top Ronaldo's of all time. Yeah. Number one is Ronaldo from Brazil. Number two is Ronaldinho from Brazil. Number three, Cristiano Ronaldo from Portugal.

37:59PFT Commenter:I did have a moment, by the way, that I had. And I think I'm so transfer portal brained by college sports now. Columbia has a Luis Suarez.

38:09Big Cat:Yeah.

38:10PFT Commenter:And I was like, what the fuck? You can transfer? But also the other Luis Suarez is like 45 now. So, yeah, I got to correct that. But, yeah, the World Cup has been awesome. Hank, I think you're going to get into it a little bit. Maybe not on a U.S. Open weekend. Yeah, maybe next week. It's fun. It's fun. It's not that this is honestly the best times to watch sports is when you don't really care. It's free. Yeah. You just like get to root for something. And if it doesn't work out, it's like, ah, whatever. And it's the middle of the day.

38:43Big Cat:And yeah, it's everything around it, too. Like the fans that are at the stadium right now traveled from all across the world. And like I like the fan stuff, the fan stuff.

38:50PFT Commenter:I appreciate the true fans passion. I'm not knocking you just the international fans. Yeah, you're knocking the. It's mostly the people in this office. But the people in this office are just having fun. And the comment to Max was a joke. Oh, well, he saw me this morning. I don't know if you can see it on camera. My visor says USA soccer, and Hank looked at me and he goes, what a poser. And I was like, dude, it's just a cool visor. In the moment, it's fun.

39:19Big Cat:Yeah, Hank, were you saying that to people that were rude for U.S. hockey? No. Why not? It's the same thing. It's the same thing. But it's also one of those situations.

39:28PFT Commenter:We're good at hockey. But when we play, we're not good at soccer. No, but Hank, you haven't watched the game.

39:33Big Cat:You said you didn't watch the game.

39:34PFT Commenter:We never do it. You don't know. Hey, do we even make it to the Sweet 16 or whatever? Hank, we never get to all be on the same team. Like, we all have our own teams. Then, you know, World Cup, Olympics, that's pretty much it. Yeah. It's for country, man. You know, when we just bomb everyone, that's it. That's the only time we get to go, USA, USA. I'll be rooting for the U.S. this weekend. the U.S. Open course. Wow. Got us. Got us. All right. Well, let's talk some more soccer.

40:05Big Cat:Real quick, we haven't discussed one of the biggest stories of the entire offseason. Jacoby Brissett's holdout.

40:14PFT Commenter:Oh, yeah. It's still going on.

40:15Big Cat:Yeah. It continues.

40:17PFT Commenter:We're on Jacoby Brissett because we did discuss it, but that was in the early days. But we need to follow up on it.

40:22Big Cat:Yeah. Because Carson Beck... Oh, my God. Who's spelling

40:25PFT Commenter:in there? Who's working the Who do you think? Meag isn't here, so I'm...

40:31Big Cat:That one's on me.

40:32PFT Commenter:Jacoby Brissett, he spelled it J-A-K-O-B-I-E-B-E-R-S-E-T-T. Mm-hmm. And you've got no Jacoby Brissett news with that spelling. I got softball, unfortunately. It's tough for me to come back from.

40:49Big Cat:No hits.

40:50PFT Commenter:How did you get softball from that? Names are tricky, man, you know? Yeah. It's up to the mother of birth. She can spell it however she'd like. So what's the holdout at? Where's it at?

41:00Big Cat:I'm just saying the holdout continues. Oh, okay. But I'm sure that there's people out there being like, hey, what's going on with Jacoby Brissette and his contract holdout? We got you. And for the record, you have to pay Jacoby Brissette. Have to. They don't grow Jacoby Brissettes on trees. Correct. And now Carson Beck says that he's going to be at the facility 13 hours a day. Okay. Seizing this opportunity.

41:20PFT Commenter:Love that for him.

41:21Big Cat:So that's where we're at.

41:22PFT Commenter:Okay. That was our update on Jacoby Brissette. But we're going to talk more soccer with Roger Bennett. We also have Alex Karaban, who's going to get drafted in the NBA draft on Monday. And then Fyre Fest.

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42:53PFT Commenter:okay we now welcome on a very very special guest he's a great friend of the program it is roger bennett you can still go buy his book we are the world cup on amazon uh roger great to see you great to talk world cup but before we talk world cup you're so big time now that you have a microphone tester food taster as well yeah there was a nice gentleman who when we pulled up the zoom was sitting there in your seat and he's like we're like you're not roger he's like sorry to disappoint can i test the mic real quick and then you come swooping in like ellen degenerate i think i saw you slap him across the face yeah and told him to get out yeah i learned that off uh of you yeah congratulations let's tell you we once interviewed james corden long time ago when he was doing like nighttime james corden um and just before you know he's a big football fan, West Ham fan.

43:50And just before the cameras went on, we're chatting, all cool. And then he just, as we're about to count down, he goes, teeth. And a guy just zoomed in to the shot and goes, all clear. And I was like, what was that, man? What was that? And he goes, and the guy afterwards said there was one time he was doing an interview. He'd had a salad and there was a big piece of spinach in his teeth happens um and so i was like it's your job just to go around now and just he's like that's what i think we shout teeth and that's it so you're not really big time man until you got until you got the teeth

44:30Big Cat:yeah you did tell him don't look you in the eyes no eye contact with you i believe i heard that

44:35PFT Commenter:yeah yeah uh all right well roger it's great to talk to you world cup we have world cup fever uh Do you? Do you really? Oh, yeah. We've been watching. The game's on right now. We've had every game on. Now, I'll tell you why we have World Cup fever on this show. PFT and a guy who we work with who's very smart, his name's Sean Quigley, they came up with a round-robin bet, which I don't know if you're familiar with a round-robin bet, but you basically bet every iteration of something, and you bet 20 things, and if two of them hit, you win a little money. If three of them hit, and it keeps going up and up.

45:08PFT Commenter:we did that for uh the first games of the tournament and we bet all the draws and we had a day where there were four draws and most people would be like this sucks soccer sucks oh they're tying it was the most electric day in this office we won so much money from all draws they don't get it yeah they don't understand the game like you and i yeah you're essentially just mitigating your own risk. Yeah. Yeah. Just like you were betting for the worst potential outcome just in case. Yeah. There you go. That's how football's truly going to catch on in America. I mean, there's many reasons to love this World Cup.

45:45It is an ultra marathon. We're all getting nipple chafing. It's a lot. Four games a day is heavy tonnage. We're here in Seattle where the United States are about to take the field against Australia tomorrow for a little game of knifey-spoony. It's going to be something but ultimately the whole world cup at the end of the day is it not just a 39 day rom-com where slowly slowly um alexi lalas is trying to win the love of zlatan ibrahimovic

46:16Big Cat:he'll break him down eventually i'm sure because it's very funny watching that dynamic too because zlatan's ego and alexi's ego are pretty much the same but one of the two and i'll let you figure out which one is more deserved than the other. And so it's like, and then God bless Thierry Henry who's just up there making faces whenever Zlatan says anything. It's amazing. And now it's free to support. Zlatan's not even looking at Alexi Lalas anymore. There's like, I'm not even going to acknowledge your presence. Yeah, but this is just a rom-com troupe. This is just a three-act play. I actually think they have planned all of this.

46:49It's all worked out. I mean, Thierry Henry is the greatest modern striker in the English Premier League history. like every single, he's the special glue of any show he's on. Any footballer that comes on is immediately in awe that it is Thierry Henry. As great as he is, I actually do think he's become even greater as a face puller. Like, he's just like, if that was a gold medal event, man, he'd be Phelps. He'd be the Phelps of just on camera face pulling. But the Lallus Lattam thing, I mean, Trevor Noah came on our show the other night and went in great depth about this is a rom-com show. We've seen it before.

47:27And at the end of it, Zlatan's going to shake his hair down, take off his glasses, and just be me. It was me all the time, Zlatan. It does end up with them kissing. And I think it will be possibly as beautiful as moving as when the United States win the World Cup against Cape Verde in the final, which we also have to look forward to. It'd be beautiful.

47:44Big Cat:I recently re-watched the 2002 World Cup with South Korea advancing through the knockout stage time after time, all the calls that they got. And I'm thinking, hey, that was at home for them. We could do that too. Now, I saw that first game, and Roger, I got to tell you.

48:00PFT Commenter:Yeah.

48:00Big Cat:I got to tell you, my pants got real tight when I was watching that. Yeah. That's the best by far I've ever seen this team play, and we've had some big wins before. But in terms of like a complete game and how enjoyable it was to watch that style of soccer, I've never seen that before out of the United States. We scored goals. We scored goals. We don't score goals. And the counter-pressing that we were like, we turned the ball over and within two seconds, just swarming the ball, winning it right back. It was amazing to watch. And I'm at the point now where I've said, if we play like that, that team is capable of beating any team in the world.

48:32Big Cat:I'm not saying that we're going to or that we're going to run through because you have to win, what, six games in a row. USA in seven. Yeah. But I think that that team could beat any team in the world. Am I crazy to think that? I don't know what to think anymore. It was erotic. Yeah. It was erotic. watching this team, we have seen this team in good days when we faced up to St. Grenadines and Vincent and we've beaten them one nil with a goal off some of these testicle. The game was more thrilling than it sounds. And we've seen bad days when we've looked at Trinidad and Tobago in the eye and they beat us, never play two teams at the same time, America, you gotta learn.

49:14But, you know, we've always been a good team. We've always had collective, you know, the best we've had like the dog in us. We've been like a collective fist, just guys who look like they could be hooty and the bluefish roadies. But when they pull on that stonewashed denim jersey, they become superheroes and become like a mid-major. This was stunning. I can't quite understand where it came from. I love these footballers. This is the best individual set of footballers we've ever had. They've struggled recently to find coherence. They've struggled against European teams. Don't look them in the eye, as you said earlier.

49:52We've lost, is it nine straight to European teams? There's like a slight baked in inferiority. This though, it was, I was trying to think, it's like Matthew McConaughey, like doing rom-com, rom-com, rom-com. Yeah, I'll do Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Yeah, I'm kind of like this level. And then suddenly being like, no man, I'm doing Dallas Buyers Club. This is who I am. I'm going to steal Wolf of Wall Street with my cameo. I can do whatever I want and I'll do it whenever I want. It was that kind of football. The goals were ecstatic. Yeah. You know, the team play was was transcendent. And it was it was like Big Cat.

50:28It was like Caleb Williams was playing. Yeah. And suddenly we don't fear the Packers. And suddenly, my God, we don't fear the I do fear the Madden curse. I mean, it does feel it feels like everything is possible, man. And it's magnificent.

50:44PFT Commenter:It was incredible to watch. I had so much fun doing it. Are we worried at all about Australia? PFT keeps telling me they're fast. I trust PFT with his soccer analysis. Like, I expect us to win every single game in the group stage now. I'm so funny. Tommy Lazorda, I wrote in my book, the 1994, I went down to Soldier Field for the first game, Bolivia, Germany. I was worried no one would show up. And they played a video, a crackly video outside the stadium in which Tommy Lazorda said they clearly got him to make a hype speech. And he said something like, I don't really understand soccer. will know what the World Cup is, but if America are in it, I know we're going to win it.

51:22Which I just love.

51:23Big Cat:Which I just love. I just love. So that's what you sounded like in that moment. I mean, here's the issue. I'm going to whisper this because it's a little bit frightening. Australia, they love being the underdog. They love like, they're big locker room billboard merchants. And when we got drawn against them, because we were hosts, so we were the number one seed, everyone went mad in America. Like, oh God, what Australia there? And one guy on CBS television said, just lent into the mic and then goes, Australia, lay up. Like, you know, peace of peace. And then I can't remember what it was. Landon Donovan said something so astonishing about the coach that he was, I can't remember.

52:03The Australian coach was interviewed. He's a very good coach, Popovich. And he said, yeah, we're pleased too that we got America. Like, that's a good, that's good. We could have got Brazil. We could have got England. We're pleased we've got America. And Landon, like, talked about him being arrogant. and that wasn't the word he used. He said something like, he's going to get out of here on the next Qantas flight, which was like, wow, bro. And then Alexi weighed in and said, you know, they're ordinary. It's an ordinary team. And so the Australian press, this is why I'm whispering, have taken all of this and they've decided that we think we are, you know, we're this, we're that.

52:36They're going to destroy us. So I want to say to the people of Australia, we fear you. You're a very good football team. I'm just gassing you up. I'm just gassing you up. We just, we fear you. They are a good team. They're kind of us. They're kind of us. They're organized. They're disciplined. They're a really good collective. It will be a really great game. I don't like to be hyperbolic. It might be the best thing that's happened to Seattle since Nevermind came out in 1991. I'm so excited. This city, the streets. That ended well. Yeah. Oh, my God. I'm trying to remember a pole jam album very quickly.

53:17The streets are like, it's crazy here, man. It's beautiful. I'm finding this so moving. As someone that loves America, like Kenny Powers loves America, that loves football rising in America, the beautiful part of the other night was seeing just streets, Columbus, Ohio, thousands of people out there, seeing St. Louis, thousands of people out there, seeing Americans falling in love with this feeling of connectivity and joy and happiness and being together and welcoming. I mean, we can get off on that in a minute. I'm starting to worry what we're going to do when the Scottish fans leave us. I don't know what's going to happen.

53:59That was my question.

54:00PFT Commenter:Yeah, because there's certain storylines that popped up, the U.S. men's team, the booth on Fox, but the Tartan Army, the Scots. I read a someone wrote a story about the Tartan army and they had an anecdote in it where essentially they were all in a liquor store and a woman who had nothing to do with the Tartan army came in and bought a really hot day bought two water bottles and they booed her for buying water did you know that this was like the Scots and the Tartan army had it like this because they are capturing the hearts of America by the way PFT knew this When I was in Chicago and I was walking out of the studio, and this was months ago, 100 days before the World Cup, my book came out.

54:44And you were like, I'm so excited for the World Cup. And I was like, what are you most excited for, man? And you were like, oh, the Tartan Army. You knew back then. And you're right. I mean, it is. I mean, the Tartan Army is beautiful for so many reasons. I'm old enough to remember when Boston used to be an Irish city. And just to see them come in and fall in love with Boston and to quadruple the beer sales over a weekend that they have on St. Patrick's Day, which is throwing down the gauntlet. But overall, the joy of the Tartan army is really profound. I grew up in Liverpool in the 1980s. Football fandom was the hooliganism and England was struggling and football was parochial and you would march all over Europe and every team was going to win and have violence.

55:35the fans we wanted the taste of blood in our mouth you'd go and and to be and in world cups too just pitch battles against police against other fans against anybody that you could you know you you were letting out a profound national anger and i think the thing that's been really beautiful and my god we needed it in america we really did we needed them to come over and revel in our bookies we needed them to come over and be like oh they're smothered and covered what is this and we needed that. They've fallen in love with us and we can fall in love with ourselves again. But part of the joy of this is like someone who has lived a lot of football is how welcoming the...

56:15The fan bases are. It's no longer about like, OK, let's go. Where's the English? Let's go and have them. Let's go. And it's about we're here. Life is short. This is joyful. Everyone can participate. We had Diego Luna, the actor, come on the other day in Mexico. and he was laughing about how the Mexicans and the South Koreans are having a love off. They're playing today in Guadalajara. Like the two faces, you're seeing like the Mexican fans dunk, South Korean fans upside down in huge vats of tequila and their lives are being changed. And he's like, I love it. This is the face of Mexico that we always want to put out.

56:52But he's also like, I kind of miss the old days where the Mexican fans would spend hours in the middle of the night outside the South Korean hotel firing fireworks at the players' windows and just making it hell. But it's beautiful. We need this kind of love.

57:06PFT Commenter:The Tarn Army, they're an SEC school. That's the biggest compliment you can give them. It's incredible.

57:11Big Cat:Except like maybe –

57:13PFT Commenter:An SEC school. They are. They're Alabama. They're Georgia. Just show up to your city, drink every single beer, and have a great time. I was going to ask you about that because what is the legacy of this? Playing it forward. Boston, I'm so sorry. you have been the jewel of the planet in terms of warmth hospitality wonder i'm seeing clips in my uh in my feed that i'm like all right i've seen that one before three days ago and then he realized holy crap no this is new yeah still going yeah still going man like scotland the nation where we once had ov on the show and i asked him when he won the stanley cup and he did all that stuff you know where he's in the fountain doing the press-ups and then at the nationals game doing all the crazy stuff, shirt off, reinvented tops off at the Nationals game.

58:01We just didn't know at the time. And I was like, man, you did this for five days. How do you not get hungover? And he just looked at me like a minute. He goes, Ovi do not get hangover. And Scottish people and Ovi do not get hangovers. And I admire it so greatly.

58:16PFT Commenter:But they're going to Miami next, which is that's going to be the humidity of Miami and the Tartan Army.

58:21Big Cat:The floor of the sun and the Scottish heads are like a match made in hell. It's going to be insane. I do want to see the videos that come out of Scotland, like the Tartan Army going to 11. Oh, my God. Bring them in your kilts. Two things that have not been invented in Britain is sunscreen and electricity. Neither exist there, and they're going to have their minds in. But I'm interested in what you think about how American sports, like English fans were in Dallas Stadium. They were in Jerry World yesterday, and they were blown away by it. You know, the sports and global sports are blown away by America, both the sporting reality and the...

59:01Waffle House, our gas stations. By the way, we got to get into the Buc-ee's European franchise business. Like, I want to open the biggest bloody Buc-ee's in Dresden, outside of Dresden. They'll be like, money. But the other thing is, how will American sports culture be changed by what you guys have seen? Like, which SEC school will be playing freed from desire? Yeah. You know, when they win, will you be doing, will the Vikings fans be doing the Norwegian rowing piece? Yeah, I can see that. Going up the elevators.

59:39Big Cat:Yeah. Yeah, who'll be tidying up after themselves? Will it be BYU fans? Will they be, like, just tidying up after games? Like, do you see American sports culture being changed by this crap? or it'll be a circus that just goes. I mean, we need the chance. We do. I think that chanting could use a little bit of work, but that's something that has to be organic. So we don't know where that's going to come from. I know our boss Dave had a couple bangers that he dropped on the timeline yesterday. We'll see if those get picked up or not. Oh, for the American fans. Yeah, he had one Yankee Doodle Dandy, very popular song that everybody knows that you just replace some of the words with Pulisic and then you rhyme turny with shit.

1:00:17Big Cat:I forget some word that doesn't rhyme with turny. So it's going to take some work. that we have to do but um i think you gotta hit the nail on the head earlier it's nice to see our own country through other countries eyes sometimes because to paraphrase kevin durant uh a lot of dumb bullshit happens in our country but a lot of great things happen too and sometimes we we lose sight of that and seeing other people like enjoy our culture like the japanese fans they've i feel like they might even be my favorite fans of the entire tournament them being amazed at barbecue um going on all the the local news stations and just being like great ambassadors for the country it's great to see your country through the eyes of another it really is that's what i'm here because of that man i am like i'm genuinely my life is a living testament to the soft power of america which fell from liverpool when i was growing up you know i watched william refrigerator perry and i wanted that man i wanted that you know you watch public enemy you're like wow god you know nutria high school john hughes movies you're like bloody the hell um and it is right the the japanese fans who wrote that letter about um about how free um uh free chips at a mexican restaurant they just kept coming and then they felt obliged to eat them even though they were feeling physically sick yeah because like in japan you don't get free stuff and they had this great line like a free gift can never be dishonored so like these guys just sitting there on their 87th bowl of chips and salsa and they just want to vomit but they're just like America as they stuff it down.

1:01:49I love that. And by the way, we have not talked for a second about anything that's happened on the field. This is the joy of the World Cup. It's just every day. It's just another fan base. The off the field is. And this, I guess, is sports now. But it is just the joy of the world right now reveling in the United States. It's a very healing moment.

1:02:11Big Cat:I guess one thing that has happened on the field that a lot of people are talking about is Messi. Has Messi gotten to the point where he's being mean, where he's just rubbing it in? He's won the battle so clearly against Ronaldo. We get it. A hat trick to open up the World Cup and then Ronaldo looking like he probably shouldn't even be in the continent. He shouldn't have made the trip over here. It was a tough watch for Portugal and it was a great watch for Argentina. What can you say to, if you know a Ronaldo fan, they're probably going through it right now. What can you tell them to make it seem like everything's going to be okay?

1:02:49I don't think you can. I don't think. The world's divided and there's two kinds of people. Well, they're always sweet. People who like sweet. People who like savory. People who like Messi. People who like Ronaldo. And you can't say anything. You cannot change it. It's not an objective thing. It's in American sports too, obviously, with Michael Jordan and LeBron. You just cannot change that. Once you're a Ronaldo truther, you're a Ronaldo truther. I love your idea that Messi, this sweet little diminutive Ewok who can just do just crazy magic. It's not even physically. He walks most of the game when you watch him.

1:03:29He's walking. When I last came out, I said he looks like he's just wandered out of your local supercats. You're like, I'm not afraid of that. And then suddenly he'll just burst into life and do his part. like I'm pretty sure there's part ninja action going in there. There's part like close up magic, Ricky Jay kind of a card shuffle crap. There's stuff. I don't even know. The thing is, it's probably so infuriating to Ronaldo because Ronaldo stuff is, is a rod esque. It's five tool player stuff. It's just like, you know, six abs is not enough for the perfect, you know, the perfect shirt reveal. You've got to have a, or on a good day, 10.

1:04:06And so those are diminishing those powers. and you're left with, I mean, it's like kind of James Harden-esque kind of catch 22 that he's going to take all the shots. He's not going to play the D. You kind of know at this point you're not going to win with him. But it's the bonfire of the vanities. For Portugal, I said this a couple of times, they can win this. They can win this tournament. That's the agony. And they all want to win it for Ronaldo. But the thing that's stopping them winning it for Ronaldo is Ronaldo. Right. It's a bit of a mind bend up.

1:04:39PFT Commenter:Yeah, so do you think there's any chance that they do sit him? Because from everything I've read and seen, Portugal has a team that is a true – I don't even know if they're a dark horse, but they're one of the best teams when he's not playing, and yet they have to just kind of bend the knee to him and say, yeah, we're going to let you play and not score. Who's that in American sports? Who's the Ronaldo of American sports? Well, I don't want to bash him, but I mean – LeBron is better than Ronaldo right now, but you could make the argument LeBron is maybe holding the Lakers hostage a little bit for their future.

1:05:13So that's, I mean, that's ultimately it. And they can win. I mean, they are so bloody talented. But you've got to remember, these players all came through with Ronaldo as their icon. So no one wants to tell him. No one wants to be there. They had this last World Cup, and they did drop him. And the guy that replaced him, who's still the number two striker, Ramos, he scored a hat trick. And then, you know, and then they, you know, I mean, it's tough. It's very psychologically tough. But I mean, he's making$300 million a year. So how tough is it? I don't really know. And his legacy is, I mean, his legacy is magical.

1:05:51But what Messi, Messi must drive him crazy that he's won the World Cup, that he's still delivering, that he just wanders on. How great was it in Kansas City in Arrowhead Stadium? PFT, whenever I see Arrowhead Stadium, I think of you laughing at the scoreboard. I do, I do, I do. But to see that stadium, which is normally just like Andy Reid's domain, feel like it's in the heartland of our nation, to see it bouncing, and it could have been in Argentina that night, the noise, the spectacle. It could have been Buenos Aires. It could have been the Monumental where Argentina normally play. I found that really, to be sincere for one very fleeting second, I find it really moving that that was America.

1:06:33And to see that and to witness that, and I think I want more.

1:06:38PFT Commenter:Yeah. He has more wins at Arrowhead than Derek Carr. Yeah, it's pretty crazy. Derek Carr played in the AFC West for many years. All right, so what team has impressed you the most through the first games? I mean, England was great. Germany obviously just absolutely spanked whoever they played. It was Curacao. Yeah, Curacao. That wasn't fair.

1:06:59Big Cat:Maybe Curacao is better than we think because they only lost to Germany by the same amount that Brazil did. It's close a few years ago. They were tied 1-1. Yeah. But when they scored that goal, though, Curacao, this tiny island. I mean, we're seeing Curacao on that scorebook. Yeah. It's worth millions and millions of dollars to Curacao, but worth even more to the Curacao and diaspora, that pride, that joy. that I mean I find all that incredibly moving when they scored Curacao against mighty Germany a really good goal on the counter really good I'm dead inside I'm a horrible person but I stood up I was like so I've never been to Curacao I'm not Curacao and it's an incredible achievement same with Cape Verde yeah we had that goalkeeper on the 40 year old journeyman I mean this is like a man who rattled around like triple a double a baseball forever and then suddenly got not just called up to the majors, but almost like in the World Series, just suddenly came on and pitched almost a perfect game.

1:08:04I can't imagine what that must have felt like for him. And the joy of it, to go from 29 ,000 Instagram followers he had, no one was saying the word Vizinha when he woke up that morning. But by night, he had 10 million Instagram followers, more than Mahomes, more than Wemby. and every kid I said this to him do you know like every kid tonight when they're playing football is throwing themselves around on the turf or the asphalt or whatever just screaming I am Vizinha and that's ultimately I think whoever wins and we don't know yet to answer your question like a lot of teams look tasty you know obviously France are amazing Argentina are amazing England didn't crap the bed at the first hurdle which is a big big psychological relief so many of the teams no one has fear that's what's changed like the middle the African teams are fearless self-confident everyone fancies themselves no one wants to capitulate but really the joy is like the Vizinha joy the names that we do not know can just have transcendent experiences and it's a bit sincere for your show so I'm going to bring it to a whole but like that that is it man and I just hope more than anything that some of those names will be American names.

1:09:23This tournament's going to be enormous with or without the U.S. boys going deep. But if they do go deep, if they can win a couple of games, if they can make us believe, if they can give us these scenes in cities across the nation, make us feel alive, cheering for the nation. America loves winners. America loves dream teams. This has been a dream on team forever. It could be so profoundly transformative.

1:09:48Big Cat:Yeah, it could. Yeah. Have you heard anything? you you've got sources everywhere roger have you heard anything about christian pulisic uh calf how's that leg doing he was wearing like a compression sleeve yeah they're being very you know what i actually kind of i think i like what they're doing it seems almost uh like belichickian the way that they've handled this injury there's like no information that they're giving out whatsoever so it might not even be that bad of an injury and they're just letting us all think that it is it might be way worse than we think it is but we're wondering like is he going to play?

1:10:18Big Cat:There's a chance he might play. I kind of respect how they're keeping it very, very close to the vest and letting the narratives get out there. But what have you heard about it? I've heard it's still attached to his leg, which is big, if true, and can neither confirm nor deny that. I mean, thank God, a couple of things. The team has so many talents right now, and this group stage is so forgiving. The way they've set this tournament up, almost everybody goes through. After all these games and all this journey, they're like, yeah, yeah, everyone is in the next round, lads. And so it's a trade-off of resting him.

1:11:01Against Australia, we played them in November, was it? And we beat them 2-1. They were very good. They gave them a real kicking. I mean, it's a very physical team. It's like kind of football. Bill Lambert would really look out and be like, now that's, I'm interested in that game. They really gave him a kicking. He actually had to come off in that game and was injured for weeks and weeks and weeks. So I think how he's used, if he is fit, can he play? Would he play? Would you fling him into that will be the narrative. But it's going to be a magical game. Remember, I'm gassing up the Australians.

1:11:36It's going to be a magical game. Both teams, very good. Both teams, very good. Australia, very, very good. And so I do. I just hope for a spectacle. Balogun, to see an American pull his foot back to strike the ball and actually believe it's going to go in the back of the net, that is, I didn't think I'd love to see the date.

1:11:56Big Cat:Yeah, it's pretty incredible. And you're right to gas up the Australian. And it shouldn't just be like gassing them up. If you've watched the tournament so far, you should know that any team is capable of beating any other team, or at least tying any other team. Yeah, and if they tie, good things happen at Barstool headquarters. So everybody wins, baby. That's facts. That is true. That is the point. Do you have your top four? Do you have a Mount Rushmore of all-time soccer players? Yes, but they wouldn't mean much to you. Most of them are terrible, and they just make me laugh with their tenacity, trying to overcome their terribleness.

1:12:32I do. I think that's the greatest thing in sports. Being a Bears fan, being a White Sox fan, you do learn that sports is a pleasure that hurts. is that like it's a suffering it's an agony and when something great happens you know it's fleeting death is going to come for us all it is um and you just got to celebrate it um so most of my favorite footballers are human beings that are deep my favorite baseball player of all time was joey cora okay yeah i adore him like i've i've signed i've got every baseball card of joey cora's i've got signed jerseys of joey cora's in my office i've got joey cora avenue as some of made in Chicago.

1:13:13I have that street sign. This was a guy who was playing on a really good White Sox team when I arrived and he just took the field every time. Just so happy to be there. He never took a second of playing baseball for granted. I adore him.

1:13:34Ultimately, life is short and you've got to make the most of every minute and that's what I love. My favorite football I could tell you, but they wouldn't mean very much to you. They're just hilarious. Do you want one of the best great ones of all time? Yeah.

1:13:46Big Cat:Tell me who you would say would be the four greatest of all time. In order. Lalas. Yeah, fair. Number one. Just a stalwart on defense. Christian Fulessick, number two. Freddie Adu? Is he three or four, though? That's true. You know, like there's the Messi and the Ronaldo. there's the Freddie Adu 3 and the Freddie Adu 4 absolutists and I don't really when you get into a Twitter war with them bastards it's over it's over man Freddie Adu and I'd probably put in number 4 I think would probably be Marta the Brazilian icon that's how I'd do it, it'd be Lallis it'd be Lallis and Pulisic, I do respect, I love Kyle Beckerman who used to play for the United States, played for us forever, was just the most tenacious footballer, worked so bloody hard.

1:14:47He'd probably be number five, but you only wanted four on that rush more. So that's how I'd go, baby.

1:14:52Big Cat:Yeah, that's good. So are there any teams that should be pressing the panic button? Brazil. I'm mostly asking about Brazil. Should Brazil be pressing the... Spain, they parked the bus and they had like 11 guys playing inside the penalty box. Spain will be fine. Spain will be so good. You can't read too much. First game, man. These teams, the Germans have a word for it. I think it's something like Tournier Mannschaft. They've got a word for everything. And the idea is that the World Cup's won by the team that plays themselves into the tournament. You've got to remember, these men, and they are just guys, they're living together in weirdly monastic conditions for like 40 days.

1:15:32It's like Love Island, but without any of the women in the house. and so they're all walking around there's some great guys there's always some pretty weird ones um and it can be like we've had great teams that sound amazing they've just destroyed themselves in the first week of camp just like just self-immolating in there um because they can't stand being in these weird and you know unnatural where's where's my club to stumble out of at four o 'clock in the morning covered in my own vomit if i can't do that i can't perform you know where's my Lamborghini to smash into a lamppost and just walk out of and go and buy another Lamborghini, not even have it towed.

1:16:11Unless I can play football under those elite conditions, I can't do it. Ultimately, we do not know. The Tonya Mannschaft is like, sometimes in those conditions, just the geezers come together, just the boys kick in. You're sort of Argentina. They bring over like 25 ,000 pounds of meat and all they're doing is either playing football training or barbecue it's like no those are the three three times of the day and they loved it and they played their music and they're like man it's so amazing and they come together by the way those boys in kansas city the first time they they taste burnt ends yeah it's gonna they'll be like don't you think they're

1:16:56PFT Commenter:gonna be like we've been doing it all wrong all these decades yeah yeah it is true the uh the The Argentinians. I mean, I'm a big Messi fan, so it's been a great week. A great week. Raj, so everyone, by the way, the book is fantastic. Go buy it on Amazon. Also, just a little preview. I think PFT and I are booked to come on your show live after the final group stage game for the U.S. men's national team. In a moment of victory. We're going to have a post-coital cigarette together. So we'll be joining you from this studio. And so we're very excited for that. We actually will. Well, no, we shouldn't.

1:17:35PFT Commenter:Listen, we have our eyes on the whole thing. So we're not going to. Let's just keep winning these group stage games. We're the United States, Roger.

1:17:41Big Cat:We don't celebrate group stage wins. All right.

1:17:43PFT Commenter:Yeah, exactly. That's beneath us. We celebrate hardware, trophies, rings. Yeah. And by the way, it's happening. Can we just. It is. And then it's over. I think we were texting when you were laughing about what we were saying a week ago. but if the world ever lets us win a world cup, it's over. It's a wrap. Yeah, I love you, Beno. Can you say this theory? Because it is so funny to me. Because the only thing that's keeping the world together is them laughing at us and we're so bad at men's football. They know that. That's why they laugh at soccer, by the way. English people call it soccer. The biggest show on Saturday on English television is called Soccer Saturday.

1:18:19They wake up to a show called Soccer AM. They use it. It means association football. So they use it all the time. But they also know when they're like, hey, hey, mate, you're not even proper. You call it soccer, you knobhead. That we're like, oh, my God, we're inferior. That they know that we know that they know that we know that they're laughing at us. It makes us feel sick. But your point is what? When we win it, what happens? It's just over. It's over.

1:18:42PFT Commenter:You have nothing left. The world has nothing left. I got into it with a guy the other night, and he was like, oh, typical American only cares about soccer once every four years. And I said, hey, buddy, sorry that we have other sports that are awesome. and we have March Madness and the NFL and college football. My bad, dude. Yeah, and so if we win this, it's a wrap. Like, just forget it. The asteroid better be coming the next day because you'll never be able to deal with this again. Wouldn't that be the greatest irony? That after all these decades trying to make football, soccer happen in the United States, we would win it and then the rest of the world would just, it would be the equivalent of a kid knocking the game board over.

1:19:21The rest of the world would just be like, it's over. Soccer's crap. They take their ball and go home.

1:19:25PFT Commenter:We're not interested anymore. If you thought it was bad what we did to Canada when we stole hockey,

1:19:31Big Cat:oh my God. You're giving it up. You're giving it up. You're not playing any sport that resembles soccer anymore. Like no more ball sports. We're going to swim. The rest of the world, we're going to swim from now on. If it happens, if a 12-month time span, we win the World Cup, we win the gold medal in hockey at the Olympics, and we get the Pope. and now the Pope is from Chicago? Honestly, the only move that the world would have

1:19:58PFT Commenter:is put Yugoslavia back together and hope you can win a gold medal in basketball. That's it. That would be your only move. We've got to get a Pope chant going at the World Cup. We've got the Pope. We've got the Pope. There's only one Pope. By the way, we've not even had time to talk about it. And I know this is the longest edition of Pond My Tate in all of history. And everyone wants you to talk about the Knicks. God, man, it is so amazing. I'm like a Bulls fan. I grew up with watching John Starks beat the crap out of Tony Kukoc. Four times a year, I have a nightmare, cold sweat nightmare, thinking of John Starks' puby mustache laughing at me like the Cheshire cat.

1:20:36And so I'm not Nick's forward, but man, that's the kind of ecstasy that I do wish. Oh, the city looks insane today.

1:20:45PFT Commenter:I just wish that everyone has it. But we don't even have this chance to talk about it. you've done it. You've won football already. You've made us have four quarters. Yeah, I know.

1:20:54Big Cat:The hydration breaks. We're slipping those commercials. I don't know how people didn't, like the World Cup must have had several players die every year before the hydration break. It's a good thing we got it and also it's a good thing that they go to commercial during the hydration break. And that's why it's going to be in England where they play and it's like pissing down and it's like minus 20 and they're going to be like, now we're going to the hydration break. Everybody wants the commercials.

1:21:18PFT Commenter:The one, I think it was our game in LA. It was like 74 degrees. Indoors. The perfect weather indoors. They're like hydration break. Oh, man. America, you've almost won already. Yeah. All right. I got one last question for you, Raj. You're the best. We're going to have you back on before the World Cup final. This tournament is best. And also tune in for us on Raj's show after the next Thursday. America is going to lose and you're going to kind of like, I'm just, I thought. We won't show it. We won't show it. I thought who would be so funny to have on when we just do it, and instead it's going to be the end of four weddings and a funeral.

1:21:57We'll say replacements.

1:21:59Big Cat:It'll be Zach and Hank sitting in these two seats. Let me tell you what's going to happen if we lose. We're going to do an NFL preview on your show. Hope you're ready to break down the NFC South.

1:22:11PFT Commenter:We're going to get deep into it. Let's talk about the Saints linebackers.

1:22:16Big Cat:That's what we care about.

1:22:19PFT Commenter:Oh, it's happening. But all right, my last question, Roback question. R-H-O-B-A-C-K dot com, promo code TAKE. 20 % off your first purchase. Cusips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback dot com, promo code TAKE. Here's a little preview. If we do lose, Zach is going to give you the last question. Zach, go for it. How are you doing today, Roger? Zach, hello, gorgeous. What's going on, my man? I had a quick question. I was kind of curious on your thoughts that England didn't bring Cole Palmer to the World Cup. If you had any takeaway from that. that's a deep cut robach.com 20 % off so Cole Palmer is for those who don't know he's like a virtuoso natural maverick words are not his thing he's a very funny kind of very memeable football player but what he can do is utterly transcendent to give you a very serious answer like ultimately all of everyone every coach is grappling with the same issue with this World Cup is that you have 26 human beings they're going to live in like reality TV conditions.

1:23:18And you don't want, I mean, it was on the, was it on the Miracle in Ice, that movie? Kurt Russell gave us that beautiful, beautiful wisdom that he doesn't want what? He doesn't want the best guys. He wants the, what's the rest of that quote? He wants the best collective, the best squad, the best unit. And Cole Palmer has had a very poor season. And ultimately, this was a signal by the coach. We have a German coach. We didn't even get into this. Can you imagine? Number two things I want to leave you with. If England win the World Cup in America in the 250th anniversary of America, it might just be the darkest timeline where Rocket...

1:23:57I said this to you last time I was on, like America will just be in agony watching so many English fans firing bottle rockets out of their anuses. Out of our offices, we didn't even know you could do bottle rockets. And that's our gift to you, America. But it's also, you know, the English will have to know they have a German manager. They couldn't win with an English manager. They got very close, but like, oh, we need that German winner. They have a German manager running the team now, which it's like being agony in many ways for it. They needed a German to lead us to victory. I mean, whatever anniversary of D-Day it just was, is also in agony.

1:24:33And so he kind of like you're saying, I don't need the big names. I just need the right names together. And that's what's going to lead us to victory. And we will see. God, I can't wait for the Bears season to kick. off there, man.

1:24:45PFT Commenter:We'll have you back on for a pre-week for that. I can't wait for that, baby. I just got excited. Yes. I see my stickers falling off, which means it's time for me to get here. Yeah, Rog, you're the best. We'll see you in a week. And you're the absolute best. And everyone check out Men in Blazers and buy Rog's book. And here's the World Cup. Roback.com. Big, big love, guys. Really, really enjoy every single second. Make great memories. Enjoy the Scottish fans while we got them. Courage. Thanks, Rog.

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1:25:47Big Cat:It's delicious. It's tequila. You love it. The moments are great. Jose Cuervo. And now, here's Alex Caraban.

1:25:55PFT Commenter:Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very special guest. It is two-time national champion and soon-to-be drafted in the NBA, Alex Caraban. Alex, thanks for joining us. uh first question is how you feel you got two weeks of the draft how are you feeling are you like nervous how what goes through your head when you're this close to the draft um you just want the draft to be here that's really how it is like you're working out every single day getting ready for the combine now you're traveling a bunch working out for nba teams and it's a long process it's exhausting it's also fun at the same time stressful really just a mix of so many emotions and really just looking forward to the draft now and just seeing where I go and when my name will be called.

1:26:42So, you know, just excited for that.

1:26:44Big Cat:Yeah, you've been playing basketball at a really high level for a long time now. And then to get prepped for the draft, I'm sure you have to work on things that maybe you haven't worked on a ton in the past or like focus on certain parts of your game. Like what has been different about getting ready for the draft as opposed to just like what you've been doing, which has translated into you being a really good basketball player? Yeah, I think it's really just mastering what I was good at and just making sure I'm like solid at it. So like becoming an elite shooter and really just really just doing the things that will help me make an impact on a team and really just help an NBA team win.

1:27:17So trying to create everything super simple, not anything that's outside of my box and really just whatever the team needs me to do to win and just sharpen what I'm going to be elite at the next level. Just working on that every single day.

1:27:30Big Cat:I've got a big question for you. Have you thought about your draft night outfit? Do you have that ready? I have been working on it, actually. I've been working on it. I'm most likely going to do it at home, so I'm doing a whole draft party in Massachusetts and really just I'll probably rock a suit, something with a suit, but I also want on the insides to have everything that's led me to the draft night. You know what would be kind of crazy is, what if on the inside of your suit it was that last play against Duke? yeah like you open it up the pass to brayland and brayland celebration that would be pretty incredible i might include that i mean i will invite brayland to the draft party so he he could orchestrate all that have you made the suit yet i have not made it yet so can we be in the

1:28:16PFT Commenter:suit this leads up to it absolutely my take yeah absolutely like a little timeline of everything two weeks before the draft did the gauntlet and talking to you guys yeah go back to where it all

1:28:26Big Cat:started two weeks ago at the barcelona sports office i do i mean that the shot i should thank

1:28:32PFT Commenter:you it was uh i think i the exact tweet was like i just came i've seen that i think i liked it on twitter yeah yeah i came multiple times uh that was one of the best tournament games like ever like after that game are you guys just how what even do you say in the locker room just like holy shit did that just happen yeah it was just like complete shock it was just like we really came back and we really won it's like you're like trying to remember like oh shit we made it to the final four and it's like you're just too caught up in braylon shot to come back just everything that happened you're going on social media after you're seeing coach headbutt the ref everything so really oh yeah um also not a headbutt not a headbutt that was his friend that was a

1:29:17Big Cat:Nuzzle. And they were leaning close to have a conversation. Intimate. It was cuddling. It was cuddling. Yeah. Quick nuzzle. No, I know. You said you have a dog. Do you have a dog? I do. I have three dogs. So you've nuzzled with your dog before. Mm-hmm. I have. You know what's crazy, too? One of my dogs is named Duke, too. Oh. So, like. Why?

1:29:32PFT Commenter:That's awesome. My sister named him. Okay. So we got. I have a younger sister and younger brother. And we each got to name a dog. And I named mine Luca. My sister named the other one Duke. Okay.

1:29:44Big Cat:That is very funny, though, that you can be like, sorry, I got to go put some more water in Duke's bowl. That's what I'm saying. So it's like if we lost that game, I don't know what I would have done with the dog Duke. Rename. You'd have to rename. Rename him. Have to, right? Yeah, but no, you put Duke on a leash and then take it for a walk. That's great. That's actually very cool. Absolutely, yeah.

1:30:06PFT Commenter:Max, did you find it? Scroll down. I said so wet, incredible. but I think I said I came.

1:30:15PFT Commenter:I can't remember the exact phrasing. I remember saying that. Oh, yeah, I just came in my pants. That was the greatest thing ever. Yeah, I did. That was the greatest thing ever. It was. It really was. And it also, like, was there a part of you that was like, yeah, that's what we do. We just win. Because you won so much that you're like, yeah, I don't know how it's going to work out. Like, at halftime, you're like, I don't know, guys. We'll just figure it out. I'm Alex Carabin. I'm at UConn. We win. Yeah. Yeah, no, absolutely. I knew we had a chance no matter what. We didn't play the first half the way we wanted to, but we knew over time we just keep playing the way we want to play.

1:30:48Shots are going to fall, and really just we've made comebacks before. We've really just been such a good team the entire year that we had so much belief in ourselves and in that locker room to where we knew we could win that game. So, yeah, definitely. We definitely believed that.

1:31:04Big Cat:Afterwards, did you – because we played this for your coach. did you see the reenactment that we did of the final shot no i didn't it was in the office yeah we did we did like a full-on reenact we were just everybody in this office was just buzzing for the next like 12 hours it was it was so incredible i gotta see that right after this yeah yeah it's not great we're not basketball players at all but um looking back over the years at yukon you played on some incredible teams you've played in some incredible games is there one game where you're like that's when we were at peak yukon where just everything every possible thing that we did worked and nobody could have beaten us?

1:31:40I mean, besides the national championship games, it's got to be that Illinois game my sophomore year. Oh, man. That 30-0 run. Like, that was insane. Just nothing could have gone wrong for us that run and just make – we got to stop, score, stop, score, and just – and in Boston too, so it was like 90 % UConn fans too, so it was incredible.

1:32:01PFT Commenter:Yeah. Oh, yeah, here's the reenactment. It's on the screen right there. It's really bad. It's a really, really bad basketball play. It took us like 10 shots, too.

1:32:13Big Cat:Big steal from Big Cat to me, back to Big Cat.

1:32:17PFT Commenter:Bang. I love it. Yeah, and Hank is a Duke fan, so that's it. That's why he kicked me a tee there. Start kicking the other players. That 2024 team, I know that Coach Hurley, and we know him fairly well. He's been a guest many times. We love rooting for him. But like, was there a part of that 2024 team where he was trying to give you guys motivation or being like, we haven't won anything yet. And you guys are like, come on. We're so much better than everyone. Because you guys were. It was just the whole tournament. It was never a sweat. No, definitely. I mean, he made us work every single day in practice.

1:32:52And it was like, he's like, this team hadn't done anything. You got you got Steph. You got Cam who haven't won before. You got all these new guys, too, that haven't experienced what we experienced as returners from the previous years. So he was making us, he was making us earn. And like when we would lose games too, that's like when he capitalized on, we're not good. We got to get better at this. And like every single day, just pushing us. So he was never satisfied for any moment. And really, he saw the potential of our team. It's just, he wanted us to see how far we could go and really just never being satisfied.

1:33:25Big Cat:Yeah. When you would watch him before the game, drinking his piss, would that be like a little intimidating? Like, oh shit, he's going to be on one. Like he's able to just slug this. The piss and the mushroom coffee, all those drinks that he had. So my freshman year, I never knew what that drink was, so I probably thought it was piss too. It is piss. He's confirmed. He's confirmed it's piss. It's piss. I never knew what that was. Then obviously he came out.

1:33:49PFT Commenter:Did he mellow out? Because he claims he mellowed out a little. Did he mellow out a little bit in your four years? I couldn't tell, to be honest. Okay, so yeah, he did. He did a good job of telling everyone he mellowed out. He did a good job of hiding it to himself. But, no, he was the same every single day. I think that's what makes him so special. But, no, I never could tell.

1:34:11Big Cat:What was his recruiting pitch to you like? It was crazy because we were holding national championship trophies from the previous years, taking photos together. And I'm like, Coach, I'll be honest with you, this feels weird. And he goes, I hate this too. I don't want to hold the trophies together. And he goes, you know, I truly believe that you can make an impact on us. And mind you, I live an hour away from campus too. So it was kind of like a local school for me as well. And when he brought up the championships and just the history and all that, it just made me want to be a part of it and just really help UConn, bring UConn back to the level that it should be at.

1:34:46And seeing his reactions to when I held the previous trophies and he was just like, let's go get our own. I think that's what really just sold it for me.

1:34:54Big Cat:Do you think he was testing you? Like here, touch this trophy and you're like, this is a lot of money. He might have been. He might have been. Is it good? That's the right answer. Exactly. Because that is a weird thing to ask you to do. It's like, hey, celebrate a team that we had 12 years ago. That's what I'm saying. We both weren't a part of it. We had nothing to do with that. So why am I holding a trophy that we had nothing to do with? So yeah, I think that was really the moment when we were able to, I guess, bond and really just made me want to play for them. Yeah.

1:35:24PFT Commenter:What other schools were you deciding between? It was between UConn and Northwestern. so my mom she's big on academics so it's like what are you gonna do when the ball stops bouncing go get a degree northwestern's obviously a great academic school so really she wanted me to go there and i took a visit before yukon to northwestern and we went to dinner and she was like you better commit you better commit to this dinner otherwise like i'm gonna be pissed at you no way and i was like mom i'll be honest we got yukon next week like we see yukon here both sides and like i was begging her so she was like all right so she gave me the grace to go to uconn and then i took my visit to uconn and coach hurley and the coaching staff did all basketball talk so like my mom left and she was like i don't like this they didn't talk about academics once coach calls me when i get back to my room after the visit what do we what do we got to do to get you i said look you just gotta do a visit of straight academics for my mom once my mom gets the green light for me to commit i could commit a week later they bring a black suv to my front from my front door get in it from 8 a.m to 8 p.m we visited every academic building with every professor the um the current president at uconn actually gave us the tour of campus no way and her and my mom are best friends now oh my god that's perfect so that's great does your mom ever know that you told them that yeah she knows oh she knows that you were like hey you have to you You have to set this up.

1:36:51You have to do more academic talk.

1:36:54PFT Commenter:That's incredible. And he loved it. He was just chilling. He was watching me. I was basically suffering because I'm sitting in academic meetings all day talking about the same things. Yeah, it was good. Did you get a degree? I did, yeah. Okay, so she's happy with that. And like a lot of, like, what was your degree in? I started with computer science. Shoot. Wow. So I went computer science, but that became too much. So I just graduated in economics.

1:37:17Big Cat:That's still pretty damn good. That's still pretty good, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But so she's happy with how the academic side turned out. Oh, she's very happy. And then I'm sure once you get that first NBA paycheck, she's going to be, okay, yeah. Okay. This is a good career move on your part. This isn't too bad, actually. Or the NIL. The NIL money, pretty good. The NIL too, definitely. Yeah. So did you grow up a fan of Red Sox, Patriots? Mm-hmm. All Boston teams. And UConn basketball. Mm-hmm. You just never stopped winning. Yeah, pretty much. When was the last time you didn't win something in a year?

1:37:47Big Cat:Like as a fan or as a player? I guess this past year with the national championship game. But other than that, I mean, what, Tom Brady did his job. Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown recently. Bruins, Red Sox. So really going to a bunch of championship parades and then experiencing some myself as well.

1:38:09PFT Commenter:So what happens if you get drafted on a team that wins like 10 games? It's going to be an adjustment. Yeah, because you're a winner. It's going to be an adjustment. Yeah, it's going to be an adjustment. But I've been telling teams, if we're not winning, I just want there to be a good culture. If a culture is set and we're able to build on it for years to come and really eventually reach the point of winning, then I'll be cool.

1:38:29Big Cat:Some of the best teams in the NBA are actually in a pretty decent position to turn things around pretty quickly. You see how fast it happens in the NBA. Oh, absolutely. If you just look at the East this past year, it's like nobody really expected this to be the final four teams from the East. And then, you know, if you get a good staff in place, a couple good draft picks, maybe a free agency pickup. Like, things turn around quickly in the NBA. Absolutely. You just got to sign the right guys, the right guys that fit and have the right mindset to what the organization, like what they want to do for the team.

1:38:59Then, you know, you see things turn around quickly.

1:39:02Big Cat:Have there been teams that you've been meeting with more than others? I mean, I met with a bunch of teams at the combine and then taking a couple more visits. so like a couple teams a lot of contenders a couple teams rebuilding so really just trying to find the right fit for me but also like teams that are within my draft range did you get any weird questions at the combine yeah so one team was like we heard you're a smart guy and like a high iq player so before i was able to shake their hands they i walked right in the door and they go how many pennies are in a million dollars and if you get it right you can sit down and interview with us what's the answer it was so it's like a hundred pennies in a dollar a hundred times a

1:39:42PFT Commenter:million so a hundred million pennies all right yeah you're smart yeah economics all right let's try another one let's do a couple of weird ones um how do you describe the color blue how do you describe the color blue yeah it's a tough one so this is weird to me it's like i mean you could say sky but then someone could be like I would be good. You could say the sky or the ocean water, but people could be like...

1:40:06Big Cat:Is that really blue or is it a reflection? Yeah, it's a reflection. You don't want to talk... If somebody calls you out, don't talk to that person.

1:40:12PFT Commenter:Yeah, yeah. What about how many ping pong balls in a 747? 747. I'm going to see if I can find the actual answer. Ping pong balls in a 747. Ping pong balls. I mean, you could put them anywhere. Yeah. You got to fill up the whole plane. The whole plane. You could put them into, you know, different cabinets too. What's your guess? Oh my goodness. It's got to be, it'd be like 20 million. Ooh, that's actually not a bad guess. It says 15 million on AI. 15 million? That's pretty good. That's a really good guess. Yeah, that's a good guess. I would have said like, I don't know, like a couple hundred thousand.

1:40:54PFT Commenter:Yeah.

1:40:55Big Cat:Infinity. Infinity. Yeah. I would have said, I play basketball, man. Yeah. Let's talk about basketball, please. Mm-hmm. When you're doing these interviews, how many people are in the room with you? It varies. So, like, one of them I had four people. Another one I had, like, 18 people. Ooh. And, like, a couple of them, it's like you're sitting, like, in a circle. So, it's like everyone's seeing you. Everyone's seeing your reactions. Like, you say something. You, like, you see someone write something down. Yeah, like, what did you just write? Yeah. It's like high-pressure scenarios in a little bit.

1:41:25But, I mean, they're good. You just got to be yourself. I mean, they've done your research. They know who you are. Just be who you are.

1:41:32Big Cat:Yeah. How fun has it been to watch Castle? It's been insane. He's so good. Incredible. Yeah. And he was obviously awesome in college. He was a great player. So there's no secret that he was going to be good in the NBA. But he seems like, and a lot of times we say, or I'll say something like this, and it will be kind of a backhanded compliment. I don't mean it backhanded this time that I'm saying it. He plays basketball like the best football player who plays basketball that you've ever seen. like not in terms of like you know clumsy bricks for hands that sort of thing that you hear sometimes when we talk about guys but like he is so physical he's he's a dog he's in your face and uh he's like an intimidating dude for his position too um but he's been so fun to watch did you know that he had like this next level in him i knew he had it i didn't know to this level like he's definitely gone to a whole different level that i probably didn't expect either like in the summer you see him like he's doing all the moves he's scoring with ease and like he's been an elite defender since college but he really took it up a notch and really just the way he's guarding guys right now in the playoffs and then also dropping 20 a night too like it's incredible so yeah he's awesome have you ever seen him smile rarely yeah i was gonna say like it's i love watching because he's just angry all the time he's angry pissed and then he'll celebrate after a win and then the next day just move on and do what he's got to do so coach hurley must have loved him because he basically

1:42:59PFT Commenter:is just a coach hurley on the floor of just being pissed off all the time he loved him he was also super humble so it's like coach coach hurley and coach young are yelling at him every single day and he's just looking at them dead in the eyes and just nodding his head every single time like super robotic with what he's doing like they could say whatever they need to say to steph he's just saying yes coach yes coach yeah goes out and kills so he's incredible that's awesome the uh so at the end of your career at UConn, was there moments where Coach Hurley kind of pulled you aside and was like, dude, thank you so much?

1:43:32PFT Commenter:Or did he soften a little on you? Or was it just the same pedal to the metal the whole time? Same pedal to the metal. Really? We lost to St. John's in the Big East Championship. And the next day in film, he's cussing everyone now. And he goes, Alex, you really want to end like a soft motherfucker? I love it. this is how you're going to end your career like are you serious right now like everything you've done and you're gonna go out like this you're gonna go shit on the court i was like you know he's right yeah kind of like lit a fire inside of me for the march madness run and like the more games we won the more like he was just like enjoying the moment not really talking about it to then when when the season ended like i we had player exit meetings and he invited my whole family over to the exit meeting we just like talked for a couple hours just about the entire run the entire career just our entire relationship everything that we've done at yukon so that was the soft moment but other than that like he's never gonna let off the foot yeah never let off the gas yeah

1:44:36Big Cat:did you ever um did you ever tell him hey like let your son shoot when he gets in at the end of the games we wanted to we told him that a couple times actually so when when andrew would get in we'd say like run a play for him like yeah and he would a couple times but not um like in the march madness games i know coach wanted him just to hold the ball and do the spike yeah like that was the superstition of his but we wanted him to shoot and we would tell him and he just he just never drew up the plays yeah there were some looks that i saw at the end of those games where he like you could tell he was thinking about it and you guys were like looking at him like do it yeah and then he'd look over at his dad he'd be like no you better you better not you better not shoot it but yeah the whole time we were just yelling like let him shoot let Andrew get a couple shots up he had to we wanted him he would have made him we know that a moment like that

1:45:20PFT Commenter:when you played so you played what years did you play at IMG was it just your senior year or just my senior year who was on your team I had AJ store of Wisconsin well everything Kansas St. John's everything yeah yeah miss Ole Miss I was on the post-grad team to start with. So I had AJ, Quadir, Justin Taylor. Then I broke my hand, and then the national team wanted me to be with them. So that was with like Keontae George, Jairus Walker, Jet Howard. And would you guys just kill people? We would scrimmage against each other. They were a really good team. Yeah. They were a good team, but I broke my hand, and they were like, do you want to come play for us?

1:46:03Yeah. I was like, I'd rather just go into college right now. So I just came back against college players. So I was really there for half a year and it was crazy. I mean, you had class from like 8 to 11 and then you're just an athlete the rest of the day.

1:46:16PFT Commenter:What's that decision like when you're like, so you play your first three years at your hometown high school and then you decide to go to IMG. Was that tough? Like to be like, hey, I'm, you know, like these guys have been playing with my, probably your best friends. Now you're going to go somewhere. You're going to go to Florida for your senior year. Was that weird? Oh, it's extremely weird. I mean, I never left the New England region ever in my life. So really just making that transition to Florida was a tough decision for me. But then also leaving my hometown, leaving everyone behind. I mean, I loved it.

1:46:47And really, it's just, you know, you want to go out your senior year and just, you know, one last run with the boys. But, you know, I wanted to do what was best for my career at the end of the day. And that's just playing against better players, just being uncomfortable, pushed every single day. and IMG, they had the facilities to do that.

1:47:05PFT Commenter:What was your best high school game when you were at your regular high school? My regular high school? My freshman year, I had like 40 and 25. So you were what, like 15 years old? Yeah, probably 16, yeah. That's crazy. 16 years old. And then I was like a super shy kid too. So, like, all the people coming to watch me and, like, the team that we had was really good. So, like, first couple games, I'm going up to dunk. I'm falling on my back, like, missing all the dunks just from the nerves of it all. And, yeah, then just really going out to drop 40 and 20 pretty much every night at Algonquin.

1:47:50Big Cat:Yeah. When did you first dunk? Late 7th grade, early 8th grade. That's awesome. That's so sad. Just in middle school dunking on people. That's kind of not fair. No, I swear there were some like hometown middle school games were playing different towns, just dunking on people. Just it was cheating. Yeah. Looking back on, do you feel bad? Do you feel bad for dunking on a seventh grade kid? I do feel bad. But then when I see these kids grow up and like, you know, just talking to them like past the middle school days, they loved it. Yeah. They could say like, oh yeah, Alex Gariband dunked on me. No, exactly.

1:48:20So they love every second of them.

1:48:22PFT Commenter:Did you shock yourself when you dunked the first time? Yeah, I did. You're like, holy fuck. Yeah, I didn't expect it. And it's like you want your dad to videotape you doing it. And like you watch in slow motion. Then you post on the Instagram story growing up and trying to get some hype around it. Yeah. That's got to be a great, like, what am I doing up here?

1:48:39Big Cat:How am I hanging off the rim? Actually, and also the guys that you used to dunk on in like seventh, eighth grade just reminds me, like they grew up and they probably get mad at you if their parlay doesn't hit. Oh, absolutely. So you need to get those dunks in while you can just to remind them, yeah, okay, I'm on a slightly different level. Absolutely. And they definitely have bet on me before probably. Yeah. What's the most shots that you've made in a row in practice? In a practice? Call them three-pointers, yeah. It was during like live play, like during like five-on-five action or? Just, no, like a workout.

1:49:17Big Cat:The most threes you've made in a row, yeah. Might have been 72 maybe. That's so many shots. That's so many shots.

1:49:26PFT Commenter:It's so fun. I got a question about one of the assistants, Luke Murray, who's now at Boston College. Would he draw stuff up for you guys offensively? Because it felt like the one thing that you guys did better than anyone is you always had different actions that other teams weren't expecting and weren't ready for. And you'd see it in the Big East schedule, it would be a slog. But then the minute I would say the stat all the time, but like your four years, like you guys barely ever lost out of conference. Would he just have things ready to go that just like we just know it's going to work? Yeah, he would have he'd have a bunch of plays drawn up and like he would always do it out of like the same set or like a formation and really just you think one action is happening, but he has a counter like a different play out of that formation.

1:50:09So really, he had a whole bunch of plays and like we do install before every practice. And it's like an install of a new play. So like and you could see coach and coach Murray just like talking about it, like talking us through it all. And there are a bunch of times, too, during my career was like coach Murray's calling me upstairs and like he's drawn a place for me and just trying to see my thoughts or if we want to draw something up, like try to get ideas for me, too. So he was nonstop thinking about new sets and really just trying to give us an advantage.

1:50:41Big Cat:Yeah. Was there a team that in conference play you felt like, okay, this is like some actual bad blood? Providence. Providence was always chirping us. I mean, they hated us. They hated Coach because he was at Rhode Island. Creighton. Creighton would get bad too. Yeah, some things got some nasty things. Nasty things in Omaha happened. Yeah. St. John's recently just with their success as well. So I kind of say those three. So you won't even worry about Villanova? Villanova got me good with those free throws at one time. But, no, I mean, I've lost to Villanova.

1:51:15PFT Commenter:Wait, what happened there? I missed two free throws for the win against Villanova. That was a bad Nova team too. I remember that game. But, like, what am I? I think I'm, like, 8-1, 7-1 against Nova. So, like, I'm not necessarily worried. And the one that you lost didn't matter really. It was in my control. So I miss those free throws. Yeah. Yeah. It would have clinched the game. Perfect record would have been nice. It would have been nice. Yeah. Wait, were you committed to UConn when Coach Hurley gave the speech, like, you better get us now? Yeah, I was committed a couple years after that. Okay.

1:51:51Four years after that.

1:51:52PFT Commenter:That still is an all-time. The fact that he called his shot like that. Oh, absolutely. It's insane. Absolutely. And we'd play it in hype videos too. It was like before a game, like if we're playing Nova, like we'll do a hype video of like getting ready for the Nova game the night before. And it's like that clips there every single time. And so it's so good to see. That's bad. You can't beat that, Max. That's a fair clip. Yeah. We're coming back around.

1:52:13Big Cat:Yeah. When could you tell like this team's coming together? This team's actually going to be a real problem. I think what, ours? Yeah. UConn. I think it was my freshman year. We went 14-0 in the non-conference. And like we played some really good teams too. We started off undefeated and then we had a bad month, but then we really regrouped and really just found our way in March Madness. I think really that first stretch of games, when we played top teams too in the country, I think that's when we knew that we had something special. And then you guys were such a problem in the tournament. It was almost boring to watch in terms of how great you were.

1:52:51Big Cat:Did it ever get boring winning those games so much? I was like, I'd like to see some good basketball occasionally. Nah, I'm just never born. You love to kill the teams. I think the really thing is like the offense, like the schemes that we run and just have, we have so many different plays and actions against every defense imaginable. So I think that's what gave other teams a challenge. And then the Big East teams, they were so familiar with us that that obviously made it harder for us to be in conference and non-conference. Do you have a favorite blob that you've ever run? I always like the ones where we do back screens for our centers to get dunks.

1:53:26We had Samson Johnson on our team. We'd run a back screen play for him, and it worked every single time because you'd just throw it up there and you'd dunk it. Or really just different ones where we get shooters open.

1:53:37PFT Commenter:You said that you don't look at any of the mock drafts. I don't believe you. I swear I don't. I would look at every mock draft. I swear I don't. All right, so I just looked at four mock drafts. Do you want to know where they have you landing? I won't say number. I'll say team. All right. You can say teams. So one of them is the Knicks. Okay. And then three out of four of them that I just looked at is the Spurs. That'd be nice. That'd be pretty fucking sick. That'd be nice. You could probably peace up, Wemby. You should call him out right now. If I could be with Steph again, that'd be a dream too.

1:54:10That would be awesome.

1:54:11Big Cat:That'd be pretty incredible. Just looking at these, which ultimately they don't mean anything. That'd mean nothing. I mean, if you go to one, like your two choices are teams that are playing the finals right now. That's a pretty good spot. Oh, as a winner, too, in college. I mean, it would be a perfect dream. Yeah.

1:54:25PFT Commenter:This mock draft says floor spacing, passing, and a championship DNA. That's pretty good. That's pretty good. That's all I got to do at the next level. What goes into your championship DNA? I think the preparation, just being so disciplined with what I do every single day and just really relying on the work that I put in, really just trying to work my ass off every single day on the court in the weight room in academics really just trying to be trying to maximize every single day and then if i do have a bad game just lean on my preparation and then eventually all the days add up to where you'll see success and

1:55:00Big Cat:reach your end goal what is the uh what's the preparation like how many hours a day we spend at yukon it was um i'd get shots up in the morning so that would take a good 45 minutes to an hour you'd um do a practice with coach which shoot that could be three hours three hour practices um you do film so that's like an hour an hour after a loss good two and a half three hours and then you gotta do recovery too so just like another hour rehab recovery academics however long that takes and then really just you know just chilling after that and relaxing so it's a lot of work it is a lot of work it is and i i read that um that your vertical leap got what a half a foot better in the last year oh hell yeah how that's that's a lot six inches a lot trust me she could never imagine that it's massive but that's to to do that after you again you've been like training and and working specifically at basketball i would assume like a lot of drills that would involve getting stronger at jumping and then you do that in one year what was it that like you're the most athletic that you've ever been by far i think different exercises in the weight room just working a lot more um just with more intention in the weight room and then nutrition too just big on nutrition just trying to change my whole diet with that so i think and then recovery too i mean i work a lot and then it's like i wouldn't really give my time myself time to rest i think learning throughout my career just the importance of recovery too you you should uh just put the word out there that you're still growing technically it's probably true yeah it technically is right if you if you draft me i'm probably going to keep growing i'll be taller next year i could get a foot taller then increase my vertical even more and yeah yeah who else knows um well this has been awesome man we really appreciate you

1:56:55PFT Commenter:coming by we have i have one last question it's a roback question rhoback.com promo code take 20 off your first purchase q-zips polos hoodies joggers shorts roback.com promo code take Zach, you ready? Oh, yes, sir. What's going on, man? How are you today? I'm good. How are you? I'm doing well today. You're not hitting him with a sir? I think I did. I said, yes, sir. How are you today? To me. Oh, that was a sir to the room. I can circle that back. We can go individual. All right. I have a quick question for you. That's cool. Yeah. If me or another traveler were en route to Belarus, is there a top three dishes I'd have to try before I made it back stateside?

1:57:34you'd have to ask my dad that because i think all the dishes are bad so if i would be completely honest with you like my grandparents my parents they would make like different um dishes from like you know ukraine belarus russia whatever it is i'd try them i don't think i liked any of them so like now it gets to the point where it's like we have family gatherings they'll bring the foods that they like and then me and my siblings will order like pizza or chinese food to really just balance it all out. I respect the honesty there. Good question, Zach. You got a follow-up? Yeah, quick follow-up. With possibly NBA contracts in your near future, have you given any thought to maybe something fun or quirky you maybe wouldn't have spent some earnings on, but hey, put yourself in this position, you worked this hard, maybe get something fun.

1:58:23You getting any thought to that? I always wanted a jet ski. I want to get my own jet ski. It's from Massachusetts, so I'll go to the Cape a lot. So Cape Cod and really just buy a jet ski out there and just, you know, kick it on it for a couple hours and just really just go wherever I need to go. So I think a jet ski is up there for me.

1:58:42Big Cat:That's good. In terms of things like waste money on, that's a pretty – I think it's a great thing to waste money on.

1:58:48PFT Commenter:Great answer. Yeah. Well, best of luck in the draft, man. We're rooting for you. And, yeah, go crushing the NBA. I appreciate you guys for having me. So this was great. So thanks, man.

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2:00:42PFT Commenter:OK, fire fest time. But before we do that, let's pick some Mount Rushmore teams, shall we? You guys ready? Yeah. So here's what I was thinking. Hank, you think it's rigged?

2:00:57Big Cat:no okay uh here's what i was thinking wait wait wait don't let him get away with it he just said no and then you started talking he goes well well i haven't heard what you're thinking oh okay you

2:01:06PFT Commenter:prefaced uh something before you said what you're doing i'll say right now i don't think it is rigged but there is a part of my idea that might hurt hank does that make sense i don't know what your idea is i don't know if all right so there's six of us There's 100 numbers in here. You're going to put a couple numbers in there for Hank versus the world. Hank versus the world. So I think – so everyone – so if you go 6 times 16, that's 96 numbers. So we go – everyone has, you know, like PFT is 1 through 16. Then Zach is 17 through – I'm going to need some help with the math here. 17 through whatever that is.

2:01:45PFT Commenter:32, I think. Yeah, and then we keep going up. And then if it's 97, 98, or 99, it's Hank versus the world. I don't think that math does. Does that math make sense?

2:01:55Big Cat:And by Hank versus the world, you mean that it's teams of.

2:01:59PFT Commenter:It's the booth versus me and you versus Hank.

2:02:02Big Cat:One solo.

2:02:03PFT Commenter:Are you okay with it? I mean, the odds are in your favor that that's not going to happen. I think it should be one number for the three of us versus the world. Okay. Okay. That's fair. Or should we do. No, no, no, no. I agree. But I'm saying what we should do is maybe one through 15. So then they all have numbers too. So everyone has a versus the world number.

2:02:22Big Cat:yeah you know what i'm saying yeah so what about this so what if we did i don't know if this is what you're thinking but we we draw the number and let's say it's big cat that's one through 16 and the number 14 pops up so that's a big cat then big cat gets first pick in the draft

2:02:37PFT Commenter:and you know no it was to pick somebody i was gonna do it it was gonna be random so it's gonna be yeah draw a number so if it's like if you're one through 15 it's number 10 and i'm 16 through 30 if the first number is 10 the second number is 20 you and i are team okay yeah i'm saying yeah I think that makes sense. So, all right, I'm writing it out right now. Hank has 46 through 60. We're not math guys, so I just want to say that. Just everyone chill out on the math if we get this wrong. So 15, that would get us to 90, though. So there would be 10 numbers. Yeah, so everyone gets two or everyone gets one.

2:03:13PFT Commenter:Yeah, everyone gets one, and we'll throw a couple out. Okay. So we throw out? Yeah. All right, so PFT has 91. I have 92.

2:03:24Big Cat:I think all the leftovers should be maybe two teams this Mount Rushmore season. It's literally everybody against Hank. Six.

2:03:33PFT Commenter:We could do 3v3. I got it. I got it. Okay. I got it. All right, I trust you. I trust you. Is 100 in there? Yes.

2:03:44PFT Commenter:Okay, 100's in there. Okay, so it's going to be, so PFT's number 1 through 15. I'm 16 through 30. Memes 31 through 45. Hank 46 through 60. Zach 61 through 75. Max 76 through 90. Everyone's got 15 numbers. If the number 91 comes up, PFT versus the world. 92, and actually it's 91 and 97 PFT are your two numbers. 92, 98 are my two numbers. memes 90 or hank uh 93 99 max 94 100 and then zach and memes will be 95 and also 11 both of them get 11 so if the first 11 happens it's memes if the second 11 happens it's zach i don't know how we decide the the different 11s so wait what if what if it picks like we've i've gotten myself confused yeah yeah because what if it's 11 what if it picks like one of my numbers and then what

2:04:39Big Cat:if it's be the 11 memes would be the 11 are we saying that whenever any of the uh but 11 is also wait wait wait wait is it saying that if any of the us first the world pops up that then wipes out everything else correct it wipes out everything else okay so that's that's the game breaker yeah okay yeah yeah that's exactly right uh is there zero is double zero in there no oh zero's in there

2:05:00PFT Commenter:Perfect. Wait, zero and 100 are both in there? Yeah, zero's in there. All right, so we're good. So we all have numbers. So, yeah, so 11 wipes everything out. Yes. Yeah. Zach will just not have a second number. You're going to get zero through 15, and 11 doesn't count for you. Okay. Okay? So I have 94 and 100 is my versus the world. Okay. Sorry, you have 96 and 99. Hank has 94 and 100. I have 96, 99. Okay. All right. I think we got it. I think we got it. Okay. All right. I got it. I wrote it all down. Zach, you don't have a second number for Zach versus the world. So let's say, in fairness sake, if the same number comes up twice, then it's Zach versus the world.

2:05:45PFT Commenter:Okay. Okay. So at any point, if the same number comes up twice. That works. Yeah. Okay. Yes, sir. All right. So we're ready to go. The worst versus the world would be something. Now, are we also guessing numbers? No. Okay. All right. Just to recap, PFT has numbers 0 through 15 for his regular team. Except for 11. Except for 11. 91 and 97. This couldn't be more clear. 91 and 97 is his versus the world. I have 16 through 30. 92 and 98 are my versus the world. Memes has 31 through 45. 93 and 11 are his versus the world. Hank has 46 and 60. 94 and 100 are his versus the world. Zach has 61 through 75.

2:06:25PFT Commenter:94 and any doubles are his Versus the world max you have 76 through 90 96 and 99 are your versus The world yeah okay I'm just gonna rely on you because I Got it I got it So whatever number comes up first will be The first person who is They will be up and then Whoever's second obviously it's them on Team This also I just realized we're gonna get a versus The world we're all he's gonna be I also just I just realized we're going to have to just keep hitting the lottery ball machine because once someone's up, then it's going to keep coming up to their numbers. Whatever. Listen, we're not – The odds have now come down to, like, we're definitely going to get a versatile world.

2:07:06Big Cat:I'm now remembering why we decided not to do it this way last year. Yeah. Yeah.

2:07:11PFT Commenter:But it could be – The numbers are – there's way too – I think it's more of a chance we do versus the world now. That's just not true. Yes, because we're going to – No, it's one out of – 57. So that is Hank. Hank, you are the first person up. Whoever comes up next, that will be your teammate.

2:07:27Big Cat:What if it's a versus the world?

2:07:29PFT Commenter:Then that's the game breaker. Yeah, we got it, Max. I'm pretty confident it makes more sense. No, this is going to work, I think. I think the odds of it being versus the world are very high.

2:07:42Big Cat:Because it wipes out everything else. And then we just stop. At least we'll stop the drawing if that happens.

2:07:49PFT Commenter:Hank is teamed up with Zach Let's go Let's go Hank Hank and Zach Let's walk in Hank and Zach Our team chemistry has been great the last two days Couldn't have started off hotter I mean none of this matters It's going to be a versatile world Don't say that You don't That's not true There's 90 options And it's not versatile Is it possible? No because So many game breaks Because now Wait a minute Wait a minute Stop No No No Don't say that 1 PFT You're up Okay Max, stop, Max. This is like time zones for you. You just can't figure it out. No, I'm right. No, you're not. Because now there's so many more options.

2:08:26PFT Commenter:You stop. You stop. You stop. You stop. Literally, if this next number is one of our numbers, we're done. Then say, yeah. We have the T. Oh, right. You stop. Idiot.

2:08:39PFT Commenter:Uh-oh. Oh, shit. Oh, no. PFT versus the Worlds. All right, bring it on. Bring it on. bring it on I love it so I think should it be Zach and Hank should stay as a team and then me Max and memes and first PFT can't wait I love it PFT versus the world is so good PFT versus the world is great

2:09:06Big Cat:I'm used to it bring it can't wait to see Zach and Hank just eat each other live I know a team could have two divas on it at the same time you guys are going to destroy each other bad chemistry memes is just going to wreck your team because he thinks that you're you guys are both losers i'm all i got yeah that's a

2:09:27PFT Commenter:problem yeah that is a problem pft pft versus the world is so good okay the only question i have is because it it kind of sucks if it's the team of three kind of sucks because it's like well i guess it doesn't matter no i was gonna say if you want to if you want to go one other person versus world too with like one four teams this year could be interesting so we pair up the me max and memes figure out who the two of us are paired and then the third is just also versus the world one other person against the world yes go and maybe the next the next number of your three numbers that comes up let's see does that make sense yeah yeah yeah the next number of so we're making this four teams but now it's not versus the world four teams is tough all right four 14 is tough.

2:10:12PFT Commenter:All right. I was just thinking. Yeah, you're right. Let me see what it was. It was 44. Would have been memes. You would have hated that.

2:10:26Big Cat:Would have been memes.

2:10:28PFT Commenter:Okay.

2:10:29Big Cat:All right. Bring it. I can't wait. Can't wait. If there's one thing I'm really good at, it's Mount Rushmore season. You're really good at Mount Rushmore season. Finally, I don't have Hank to weigh me down as a teammate.

2:10:38PFT Commenter:And then we'll, on Monday, when we do our first Mount Rushmore, we will also declare our punishment. Yep. Okay. Sounds good. Sounds great. It happened. All right, Hank, you ready? Can you imagine if there was a duel?

2:10:54Big Cat:Like, if there was a one versus three duel at the end of the summer?

2:10:58PFT Commenter:That's a dream. That is a dream. That's the dream. Me, Max, and memes are not going to lose. It could be a duel versus you and Hank and me. I might just... Hank and Zach. I would argue the three of us are the three best players in Matt Rushmore. Hank and Zach for sure could be... I mean, Hank's terrible.

2:11:19Big Cat:That feels like an early Sally from you guys. It does. Really early Sally. Saying that you guys are the three, like, dream team? Or is it Vince Young over there? Well, we're just basing off analytical data.

2:11:27PFT Commenter:I'm actually not... I'm probably third. I think Max and Memes are the best. Let's not forget Queen Latifah. Queen Latifah was a tough pick. Max is the best, though. Jerome Bettis. Max has lost Mount Rushmore season.

2:11:38Big Cat:With you. Queen Latifah, the list goes on.

2:11:40PFT Commenter:As long as Max can stay away from meatballs, he's pretty good. No, meatballs was my hot streak.

2:11:46Big Cat:Yeah, that's true. You've had some terrible picks in your day, too. Titty fucking. That was an awesome pick.

2:11:50PFT Commenter:I take it back. This is going to be a fun Mount Rushmore. That was an awesome pick. I take it back. What colors? Cheese. Also correct pick. I take it back. Okay. Firefest. That wasn't even a pick. That was just a fight. Hank, Firefest. I had a good week. This week was one of those weeks that every day kind of felt like Thursday, which is good. It felt like, you know, right before the weekend. I almost killed someone on the golf course today. Wait, what day? Is Friday a weekend? That's like the exact opposite. Yeah. I felt like every day was Tuesday.

2:12:14Big Cat:That's interesting because Hank used to say that Friday night was not a weekend. Yeah. But you just said, like, it feels like it's about to be the weekend. Every day feels like Thursday.

2:12:21PFT Commenter:Every day feels like Thursday. This is low-key the longest week ever. Different stroke for different folks, I guess. Yeah, that's why it's funny. Yeah. So, yeah, no real firefights. I did almost kill someone on the golf course today. That was almost – it wasn't a fire fest that they survived. He hit it five feet in front of a guy walking on the path along Lakeshore, and the guy put up his arms. Hank yelled for the guy put up his arms after the ball had gone by.

2:12:48Big Cat:Oh, no. Yeah.

2:12:49PFT Commenter:He wasn't even playing golf, which was the – He was just walking on the path. Yeah, yeah, there's a path. Yeah, he was just an innocent bystander that happened to be walking by a golf course. He almost – It was bad. Dead. He would be dead. He would be dead. Head on swivel. So you got no fire fest. Yeah, my car is leaking. Our pugs got canceled. Oh, your cool ass car? My cool ass car. It might be time for an upgrade.

2:13:16Big Cat:Damn, dude. Why don't you fix your car?

2:13:18PFT Commenter:Every time it rains, it just leaks water. What do you mean it leaks water? Close the windows, idiot. No, that's not. The windows are closed. It's from like the top. The sunroof.

2:13:27Big Cat:The sunroof. Close the sunroof. It's closed. You got a gasket issue.

2:13:30PFT Commenter:And also his trunk is broken. Which I think all relates back to the water.

2:13:34Big Cat:You think the water got into the trunk?

2:13:37PFT Commenter:I think it messes with the mechanics of the car. But everything else works except for the trunk. That's classic water. Always going after the trunk first. I don't know.

2:13:47Big Cat:You try to take that to a mechanic, see what's going on?

2:13:50PFT Commenter:I know. I brought it to the shop. I brought my car to the shop so many times where I'm sick of it. I need to upgrade.

2:13:57Big Cat:That's tough, man. Some people can maintain cars. Some people can't.

2:14:02PFT Commenter:Yeah. I guess I can't.

2:14:06Big Cat:Okay. It's a good FireFest. Thanks.

2:14:08PFT Commenter:All right, PFT.

2:14:09Big Cat:My FireFest of the week is about a new invention that just came out. I don't know if you guys saw this. We talked about the AI robots so far. We've seen the robotic dogs that serve to guard your house. We've seen the AI bartenders. But there's a new invention that got debuted this week that I'm concerned about. The AI-powered autonomous robot toilets. they just got debuted at some trade show over in china in shanghai okay and apparently you like snap your fingers and you're in bed and this toilet just wheels itself into your room pulls up next to the bed it's like come on sit on me big daddy and then you just sit on it do your business and then it goes away and like takes care of whatever you just put into it which sounds it It sounds super convenient, especially if you're at a place like, I don't know, Parade, where you can't have a toilet anywhere.

2:15:03Big Cat:You just bring your little R2-D2 shitter with you. But then I started to think about it.

2:15:08PFT Commenter:If they ever get self-aware, these are the robots that are going to kill us first. Yes.

2:15:13Big Cat:Is the ones that we've been shitting in their mouths for the last 20 years. Yep. And being like, snapping our fingers, come over here so I can piss down your throat, robot. These are the ones that I would be more fearful of than the Skynets or those robot dogs. He was getting abused, especially like this room's toilets.

2:15:31PFT Commenter:Imagine Max's toilet being able to talk. Max is going to die first in the robot uprising.

2:15:36Big Cat:God damn it. Too many meatballs. Hank's the most recent. Hank's the fart guy now. He is the fart guy.

2:15:42PFT Commenter:Hank's also got the most tummy issues on our podcast by far. I've always had tummy issues. Yeah, I know. But it's literally like we'll have just a regular meal. You'll be like, never again. Tummy. That's a place down the street. I have had issues with that since we moved here. and I've sworn it off and then we had it at the office. I was like, I'll have a chicken breast. Still nothing. Out with the tummy. PFT's got stomach issues. No, PFT's a pooper. I'm very regular. It's a big difference. He's a pooper.

2:16:10Big Cat:I got healthy poop that comes at the same time. For a long time. Right before we start podcasting. That's when it comes out. I mean, some dudes like puke before every... Josh Allen throws up before every football game. Me, I poop before every podcast.

2:16:24PFT Commenter:Wait, so your fire fest is that there's robot toilets and not that you missed your producer on Macrodosing's birthday?

2:16:32Big Cat:We don't have to get into that. So here's the thing. On Thursday's episode, I wish her a happy birthday. We taped on Wednesday. I wish her a happy birthday. And she goes, thank you. Wait, what? Oh, on Macrodosing. Yeah, we taped on Wednesday for Thursday's episode. Comes out Tuesday, Thursday, Hank. And then when I said that to her, she goes, thank you. My birthday was yesterday on Tuesday. So I was even a day late after forgetting on Monday's show. So happy birthday to McKenzie. Sorry about that. But no, that's not my fire fest. My fire fest is that I truly believe that these are the robot toilets that will one day stand up and kill us all.

2:17:11Big Cat:Why do you need AI toilets? That's what I'm saying. It seems like we're running up the score on the robots at this point. They're going to be like, dude, you didn't need just go to the bathroom. You already had a toilet. but it seems like you just took a sick pleasure in defecating on the robots. Yeah. And on my brethren. So I feel like that's, I don't know. We're putting a lot of bulletin board material up for the robots at this point if we're taking dumps on them.

2:17:34PFT Commenter:Agreed. Did I tell you guys that I've recently become a bidet guy?

2:17:37Big Cat:Bidets are nice. I feel like you should have always been a bidet guy. I should have. It seems right up your alley.

2:17:42PFT Commenter:I know. I was always a little nervous because it's a little sus. I'd rather just, you know, cram my fingers up my ass than have some water going up there. I don't really understand how a bidet. Like, I've seen bidets. I've sat on bidets. I don't trust myself to operate a bidet correctly. Well, mine's a toilet bidet. So it's not like the, you know how there's the bidets that you like go and sit on after? No. No, I've sat on the toilet bidets. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Europe ones don't make sense at all.

2:18:12Big Cat:Yeah. You just kind of have to hover. They're not like comfortable to sit on.

2:18:15PFT Commenter:So you don't sit on those.

2:18:17Big Cat:I think you got to hover on them.

2:18:19PFT Commenter:Maybe. You can't sit on them. Like that thing. I look at that thing. I'm like, that's a urinal. Yeah. I agree.

2:18:24Big Cat:Or like a drinking.

2:18:26PFT Commenter:Yeah. Yeah. It does. It looks like I just take a big lap out of it. Like just a big dog.

2:18:31Big Cat:I don't trust the ones that don't have like the built in dryer. They've built in dryers. Mine has.

2:18:37PFT Commenter:Mine has. I have heated seats, which is incredible. My bathroom. My toilet seat is just always warm. and then the toilet opens up when I stand in front of it so I don't have to open the toilet seat. That's so sick and rich. Yeah. That's like the richest thing that you got. It scared the fuck out of my three-year-old. He started crying because he walked by the toilet and it opened up and he was just like, what the fuck? You walk into your bathroom, your toilet's like, come on, give it to me. Yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy. Okay, my fire fest, I had a pretty good week too. I'm trying to think. Oh, I mean, listen, this is to any parents out there.

2:19:16PFT Commenter:I'm finally, my son's seventh birthday. My oldest is seventh birthday is today, Friday. And so I have, all my kids are within like six weeks of each other. And parents probably know this. The birthday stretches is the worst because it's just, there's so much talk about birthdays in my house. And it's just been presents and birthdays and like the week comes and like countdowns and all that stuff. So I've finally cleared that. gonna go see toy story 5 he's gonna have a party watch toy story 5 i'm excited for that but yeah birthday stretch and i i don't do like i it's really my wife has to do she she plans the birthday parties but it's stressful you don't realize it but birthdays suck laser tag uh no i i just said we're going to toy story we why do you know about the other two oh the other two one was uh slime factory which was probably the grossest place i've ever been in my life um it's literally just buckets of slime that the kids go and touch and then three-year-old we don't do we we uh we don't do birthdays till birthday parties until four in my house so we we had a cake in a family birthday party but we didn't three-year-old's not gonna remember he doesn't have friends he's got one friend they get they have like a fight club it's fucking hilarious yeah how do you how do you manage fun for school though how do you like being being being when they're older yeah having having june

2:20:33Big Cat:birthdays is awesome yeah how do you manage when it's it's not their birth it's their brother or sister's birthday it's a problem where that's also but also my birthday is soon too right but

2:20:43PFT Commenter:can't we say it's my birthday also and then they get upset that like someone else has presents and it's like but you just had your birthday yeah my three-year-old yeah he's in a he came home with like scratches all over his face and i was like what what happened like how'd you get scratched and he was like yeah my my friend teddy scratched me i was like what happened like what did he why he scratch you he's like oh i was hitting him it's like oh okay well i guess that's that's mutual Yeah, mutual greed combat. I guess what did we learn today? Nothing. Yeah. Human body creates contact. Okay, Zach, finish this off.

2:21:16PFT Commenter:My purpose this week is just that it was a tough week for guys who pick one side of the Messi-Ronaldo argument. Yeah. This week was really hard to defend as a Ronaldo defender. You're an idiot. I'm not really sure how to come back from this.

2:21:29Big Cat:I disagree with the premise of your firefight. You said it's a tough week for guys that pick one side or another of the Messi-Ronaldo thing. I don't think that's true. No. I think it's tough for guys to pick one side. The wrong side.

2:21:39PFT Commenter:We've had a great week over here. It's been incredible. That's a fair point on the 50-50 side picking, yes. Why? I know we talked about Ronaldo Messi at the start of the show and with Roger Bennett, but what's your deal? You like penalty kicks?

2:21:55Big Cat:I think the free kick is the most electric way to score. Messi does that too. I know, but not like Ronaldo. Yeah, he does. It has to do the little stutter step when he gets up to the ball. It's unbecoming. Look, I'm really sad.

2:22:08PFT Commenter:I'm open enough to come to you guys and say this is the worst part of my week.

2:22:12Big Cat:In saying so, I understand where the pitfalls are in the argument, picking one side as opposed to picking another side. Also, it's like one of the guys is a good dude, and the other is like a world-class asshole. Here's a crazy stat I just saw.

2:22:27PFT Commenter:Cristiano Ronaldo has 65 career free-kick goals. That is a lot. But it's a strong 65. Oh, Messi has 71. This isn't black and white. So why would you say Ronaldo's the free kick goal guy? Because there's nuance in this. Oh, okay. It's not black and white. Okay. But you said Ronaldo's, there's something about the free kick. Yeah, there is. There's something about the free kick, and Messi's done it more times.

2:22:49Big Cat:I think maybe the one argument you can make against Messi is that he has never scored a goal in a knockout game in the World Cup. And that's a fair, I would say that's a fair argument that you should make against Messi. Wait, no, I'm sorry. Ronaldo has actually scored a goal. Oh, no. I got, my name is mixed up. Messi scored a shitload of goals. He's won a World Cup. He won, like, almost single-handedly. Yeah, that's right.

2:23:12PFT Commenter:It's also true.

2:23:12Big Cat:Mm-hmm. Hmm. Okay. Which one would you rather hang out with, Zach?

2:23:18PFT Commenter:I mean, Messi seems to be a little more likable. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's really nothing that you have on your side other than abs. Speed. Wait. I show speed. No. I'm talking about acceleration on the pitch. I was talking about actual speed.

2:23:35Big Cat:Who does I show speed like better? Is it Ronaldo? Are you attracted to Ronaldo?

2:23:40PFT Commenter:No. This is a deep. Because that actually would be. This is I show speed. That would be the only way. We're getting into it.

2:23:45Big Cat:I show speed is famously and passionately team Ronaldo. Oh. Messi versus Ronaldo. So you're a sheep.

2:23:50PFT Commenter:That's the whole I show. That's his whole thing is Ronaldo. So you're a sheep. So the preface of my argument does come back to something a little bit deeper if we're going to get into it. My entire childhood growing up, I got one brother. We're getting on FIFA 2011 and on. He's playing with Messi. I'm playing with Ronaldo. So I can't concede this argument ever in my life. So your brother is still there. I've been trying to tell you that for a while. So I can't concede this argument, but I see the great points you guys are making. But there's one guy who is better.

2:24:19Big Cat:I would think that you would play on the same team as your brother and you'd only play goalie based on your tattoo.

2:24:24PFT Commenter:No, we used to fight a lot growing up. We'd play on different teams. Maybe we'd play on the same team now.

2:24:29Big Cat:You're literally my brother's keeper.

2:24:30PFT Commenter:I'd hop in that form, yeah. Yeah. I would. All right, that actually makes more sense. Yeah, for sure. So it's not that you're physically attracted, sexually attracted to Ronaldo. No, no real sexual tension when it comes to Ronaldo. But if you had to pick one or the other. To hang out with? No, sexually. Just being boys? Sexually. I mean, I think Messi might want to dime me a little bit better. Oh, so you're like Messi for everything except for I Show Speed and your brother. Just, no, Ronaldo, if we're picking a side on this argument, but I feel like if somebody's taking you out to a date, I feel like Messi might.

2:25:04PFT Commenter:Yeah.

2:25:04Big Cat:He'd treat you better.

2:25:05PFT Commenter:He might have better resi, yeah.

2:25:06Big Cat:Yeah. Like reservation? Yeah, he'd take me to dinner.

2:25:09PFT Commenter:We'd drink some wine maybe first. Ronaldo might. I think Ronaldo's a sneaky link guy. I think he's just shooting a text and expecting you to show up.

2:25:14Big Cat:I think Ronaldo's hookup resume leaves a little bit to be desired, too. Fair points for both camps. Yeah. Can I say five minutes real quick? There's never been a more clear winner of a sports debate. It's not even LeBron versus Jordan. No. It's not in the same stratosphere. I saw somebody tweet that I'm closer to Ronaldo than Ronaldo is to Messi at this point. Yeah. And it's like Messi's just running up the score on him. Honestly, I'm reaching the point where I feel bad. He's like an old dog that you see out on the field. It's like, dude, just call it a day. Yeah.

2:25:49PFT Commenter:I just wanted to get ahead on why I can't concede, so that you got some great points there. Okay. Max, what was your fire fest? You guys aren't going to like this one. Because it's been a long time coming.

2:26:02Big Cat:Oh, God.

2:26:03PFT Commenter:You got married. The wedding planning is hitting the stride now, and it's a racket. Wait, how is it hitting the stride? You're getting married in a week and a half. Shouldn't it be planned? Well, you got to think the sort of guy that I am, is that I put a lot of things off until right now, and now I got to do a lot of things. So I'm going home every single day this week, and it's just wedding stuff. I was putting together the seating chart. The seating chart is a puzzle that can't be. It's like putting together a puzzle of pieces that don't fit. So it's like you don't have the right pieces, but you have to put this puzzle together.

2:26:42PFT Commenter:One of my friends just wasn't on the list. I thought I finished it, and then by the end of it, I was going through all the names. He wasn't on the list. That stressed me the fuck out because then you got to start from scratch and just restart the entire fucking thing. And then it makes me worry, is there anybody else that I missed? Am I going to show up to this wedding? I'm going to be like, I don't have a place for you. I got to figure out where you're going to sit. Wedding, it sucks. It was way better when I just did my family and that was it. And I didn't have to worry about anything. Now there's people coming.

2:27:18PFT Commenter:It's a lot. Wedding planning is super stressful. I've stayed up at night this week stressing about wedding planning.

2:27:25Big Cat:In the next couple weeks, you're probably going to get a couple people to hit you up. They're like, hey, man, sorry I forgot to RSVP. Can you put me in?

2:27:30PFT Commenter:No, yeah. I've already had a couple of that, but that's a lot.

2:27:34Big Cat:Yeah, and you're like, yeah. Yeah, I sure can. Max. Max, do you have a binder? Is there a wedding binder at home?

2:27:40PFT Commenter:No, no. It's just a lot of Excel sheets that I don't really know how to work Excel. Max, what have I told you? And listen, I love your fiance. She's great. It's over. Let's just fucking get the fuck out of here, dude. Let's get in the car. Let's get in Hank's shitty car with his broken trunk and his leak. And let's just hit the road. We could do it, dude. Fuck them all.

2:28:06Big Cat:Just bros for life.

2:28:08PFT Commenter:We'd have to come back for the show on Sunday.

2:28:10Big Cat:Yeah, that would be fine. We could still go. No, it could be like, we could just hit the road as bros forever. Yeah. Just the buddies that never came back. Come on, Max.

2:28:18PFT Commenter:I had a friend who got married recently who just said, fuck it to the seating chart and just have it seat yourself. Dude, I was so close to doing that. It was insane. I was so close to doing that. But it was funny, kind of. The seating chart.

2:28:31Big Cat:Everyone sat. Yeah.

2:28:34PFT Commenter:It's the worst part of planning. because now I got in a spot that I'm like mostly good about, but I'm also a people pleaser. And now all I'm thinking about is the people that I know aren't in their most desirable seat. And I'm just thinking about how they're going to be motherfucking me while they're sitting at this table that I just spent a billion dollars on.

2:28:59Big Cat:Yep. It's never going to be good enough for everybody. No, it's not.

2:29:02PFT Commenter:Somebody's going to be motherfucking me.

2:29:03Big Cat:Yep.

2:29:03PFT Commenter:And my wife just keeps saying Whatever you'll never hear about it But it's like I need to know I need to know who's saying it

2:29:11Big Cat:If you don't hear it from anybody then you think it could be everybody

2:29:13PFT Commenter:Everyone's a suspect I keep saying I'm going to get ahead of it And tell the people that they're not in the best spot No one cares they're going to be drunk I know but it's just No one gives a fuck They're going to be drunk It's also a destination wedding You're fine Everyone's going to be having the time of their life

2:29:30Big Cat:Everyone's going to hate you No. They're going to sit down at the Paradise Island, and they're going to be like, Max, it's such a fucking dick for making me sit here.

2:29:41PFT Commenter:All right, numbers.

2:29:46PFT Commenter:50. 95. 6. No, 0. 90. 27. 25. 45. 17. Regular 0, my bad.

2:29:56Big Cat:Regular 0.

2:29:57PFT Commenter:Shane, you okay now that you're not the tiramisu guy anymore?

2:29:59Big Cat:Yeah, I'm fine. Zach, regular zero for the number of goals Pinaldo has scored besides penalty kicks in the last two World Cups.

2:30:13PFT Commenter:Ten for Messi and every other good player ever. No, that was tough. That was tough. That was tough.

2:30:21Big Cat:There's a lot of quality tens out there. Wait, what? Christian, he's what? Seven? Ooh. Dang, he's actually not a ten.

2:30:26PFT Commenter:So ten is the number that you get in soccer when you're really good.

2:30:29Big Cat:Yeah. Maradona. If you guys really believe in me. Pellissic. That's Messi's number right there.

2:30:35PFT Commenter:If only one of you guys would have taken it.

2:30:37Big Cat:Yeah. Okay. Good show. Love you guys. Also, sorry about missing your birthday, McKenzie. That one's on me. Big weekend of birthdays coming up. So happy birthday. Enjoy your weekend to the following people. Leonard Williams, Derek Stingley, Terrell Pryor, Matt Flynn, Darren Sproles, Fab Mello, Darko Milicic, Rampage Jackson, Dirk Nowitzki, Lou Gehrig, Quentin Jammer, Jake DeGrom, Macklemore, and Anthony Kim from the Four Aces. Nice. Hell yeah. Love you guys.

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