S11 EP14: My Life is Chaos

30 Sep 2025 · 1 h 1 min · 32 chapters

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In short

“Parenting Hell” episode where hosts Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe trade escalating “my life is chaos” stories—tour chaos, family illness, broken routines, and ongoing technical/production problems (no internet, laptop battery/charger issues, recording from a car/hotels). They also discuss parenting coping strategies, including a child’s bedwetting after starting school, and using ChatGPT for emotional/psychology questions. Later, Rob’s wife Louise Beckett joins to announce she has written a book.

Guests (who appears)

Louise Beckett (Rob’s wife; writer; announces her newly written book).

Key claims

Tour life is harder when you’re away from kids; you can’t be “everything” at once. Bedwetting after school changes is common and may be anxiety-related; practical steps like reducing fluids before bed are suggested. “A child told they’re annoying” repeatedly can develop low self-worth/people-pleasing tendencies (as discussed via ChatGPT/psychology).

Notable examples

Rob’s “gobble gobble” heckling story; Josh’s week of gigs plus partner illness; no-internet for days; recording from a car opposite a building site; child wetting the bed nightly; ChatGPT analysis of “stop being annoying” impacts.

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Chapters

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Welsh Language Fun

0:00 to 0:30

Rob and Josh discuss the complexities of the Welsh language.

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Welsh Language Fun

0:33 to 1:24

Rob and Josh discuss the complexities of the Welsh language.

“Listening to this podcast instead of doom scrolling?”

Welsh Language Fun

1:55 to 2:26

Rob and Josh discuss the complexities of the Welsh language.

“Because, let's be honest, there are plenty of times when none of us know what we're doing.”

Live Show Anecdotes

2:26 to 4:36

The duo shares humorous stories from their live shows, including audience interactions.

“But does that mean, can you say antigliteclade?”

Stand-Up Challenges

4:36 to 5:49

Rob and Josh talk about challenges faced during stand-up performances.

“judging by the response to gobble-gobble.”

Moving and Bin Issues

5:49 to 7:20

Josh shares his chaotic experience with moving and rubbish collection.

“I am really over excited and energized because I had, well, shall I admit this?”

Neighborhood Encounters

7:20 to 14:00

Josh recounts an embarrassing encounter with his neighbor about trash bins.

“So I'd have been, I'd have basically been thrown into Canterbury for the full day.”

Tech Troubles and Chaos

14:00 to 15:30

The hosts discuss the chaos of their tech issues and scheduling conflicts.

“gonna have to phone ali and see if he's got a better charger or laptop or something because this what you want a usbc charger yeah you're trying to charge your laptop your phone charger aren't you?”

Recycling Rules and Bin Management

15:30 to 18:10

Rob shares his experience with recycling guidelines and managing bins.

“Be easier Josh what is going on with you mate How have you not got a charger Because they just disappear I know, but you can buy them.”

Battery Anxiety and Parenting Challenges

18:10 to 19:48

Discussion about managing parenting chaos while coping with tech failures.

“You know how everywhere has different recycling rules?”
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Rob's Week of Chaos

19:56 to 22:09

Rob recounts his hectic week filled with family responsibilities and performances.

“So, what's happened, Rob, in the middle of you having a go at me for my tech situation?”

Internet Woes and Podcasting Challenges

22:09 to 27:30

Rob explains his internet issues and the difficulties of recording a podcast remotely.

Tech Password Struggles

27:30 to 28:01

The hosts share humorous experiences with remembering and managing passwords.

“And when I'm talking about no internet, I'm not talking, oh, just using 4G.”

Banking and Password Struggles

28:01 to 29:22

The hosts discuss their frustrations with banking and passwords.

“You know when a business has got a mobile phone, I think this is a fucking tin pot situation here.”

Tour Life and Parenting

29:23 to 30:06

Rob shares his experiences on tour and how it affects his family life.

“Exactly, two right, two happy family men out earning a bloody crust for their wives and children.”

Moving Houses and Changes

30:07 to 30:56

The conversation shifts to moving homes and the challenges that come with it.

“No, I was meant to be on tour from Sunday to Friday morning.”

Josh's Hotel and Massage Plans

30:57 to 31:24

Josh talks about his hotel stay and plans for self-care.

Comedy Performance Challenges

31:25 to 33:11

Rob recounts his experience performing in front of friends and the pressure involved.

“You're going to massage any extra digits.”

Touring and Balancing Family Life

33:12 to 36:46

The hosts discuss the difficulties of balancing touring with family responsibilities.

The Myth of Having It All

36:47 to 37:31

They reflect on the societal pressures of achieving success in all areas of life.

“A lot of people said it was quite dangerous.”

Personal Sacrifices in Careers

37:32 to 39:05

Discussion on the sacrifices made in personal lives for the sake of careers.

“Everyone else is smashing it and nailing it and you're the one that's letting the side down, basically.”

Parenting Challenges and Technology

39:06 to 41:22

The hosts share experiences about parenting challenges and technology's role.

“You know, one of my daughters, my youngest daughter's sleep has been a bit disrupted with getting in the night.”

Emotional Impact on Children

41:41 to 42:00

The hosts discuss exploring the emotional effects of parenting on children.

Impact of Parental Language on Children

42:00 to 43:20

Learn how certain phrases can shape a child's self-worth and behavior.

Navigating School Challenges

43:20 to 46:04

Discussion on the different experiences of children in school and parental concerns.

Bedwetting and School Anxiety

46:04 to 48:18

Exploring the common issue of bedwetting in children and its possible causes.

Louise's Book Announcement

48:48 to 55:26

Louise shares her journey of writing a book and its themes.

“Do you know what I got told recently about having a wife?”

Promoting an Upcoming Audiobook

56:00 to 56:11

Learn about the new audiobook and its availability for pre-order.

“Oh, my God, it's on Hive, the ethical book retailer that I use to buy my books.”

Promoting an Upcoming Audiobook

56:15 to 56:40

Learn about the new audiobook and its availability for pre-order.

Funny Anecdotes and Book Promotion

56:40 to 57:29

Engage in humorous banter about book promotions and personal anecdotes.

“yes please yeah definitely and yeah thanks very much in advance for anyone who orders it I appreciate it please thank you Well, let's remember this moment, Rob.”

Shout-Out for a Small Business

57:29 to 58:27

Hear a heartfelt plea for support of a family-run kids' clothing business.

“Right, should we do a small business and then we'll go?”

Breastfeeding Support and Small Business Shout-Out

58:27 to 1:00:26

Discover a lactation consultant's services and their importance in parenting.

“I've got those things, but the next tour is going to be good.”
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Transcript

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1:29Hello, I'm Rob Beckett. And I'm Josh Willicombe. Welcome to Parenting Hell, the show in which Josh and I discuss what it's really like to be a parent, which I would say can be a little tricky.

1:39Josh Widdicombe:So, to make ourselves, and hopefully you, feel better about the trials and tribulations of modern day parenting, each week we'll be chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping. Or hopefully how they're not coping. And we'll also be hearing from you, the listener, with your tips, advice, and of course, tales of parenting woe. Because, let's be honest, there are plenty of times when none of us know what we're doing.

2:25Antigliteclade. Welsh. Yeah, I know that. But does that mean, can you say antigliteclade? It must do. I don't know. You know what's the mad thing about Welsh is, most languages, if you hear a phrase, you can have a go at phonetically pumping it out. Like Spanish is quite easy. You just go, all right, I think I know what letters are needed for that. But Welsh. I'll send it to Alice now. I'm sure it'll get back to me. And see, what is she saying? I imagine she's saying, can you say? Yeah. They are South Wales. I'm going to say mumbles. I think, right, I might be wrong

2:57Josh Widdicombe:that Welsh is more spoken in the north in the north but from that pronunciation I think she's just learning hello, you fucking hell Rob she's from Swansea, that's exactly right I was going to say Swansea but Mumbles and Swansea is like next door it's basically the same thing isn't it I've got a couple of mates from Swansea I don't write in if it's not basically the same thing big up Luke, big up Denny they're Swansea we thought we'd send you a little Welsh introduction It sounds like he says tossed for Josh, which means toast in Welsh. I thought that was quite appropriate. There's a shame it didn't come out sounding more like porridge.

3:33Josh Widdicombe:Someone shouted gobble, gobble during my... It was my first tour show of the tour last night, Rob. How did it go? I had a lovely time. Thank you to the people at Canterbury. It was great. It was brilliant. Someone shouted gobble, gobble during the show. So the start of the second half, someone shouted gobble, gobble as I walked on. Can I ask you... No, not wishing to... Should I have not brought this up? No, no, no, no, no. Not wishing to be mean to our listeners, who we greatly appreciate. But when you're trying to do stand-up, someone shouting gobble, gobble while you're on stage makes it much harder.

4:06Josh Widdicombe:Well, I would say, to his respect. To his respect. Absolutely. Weird phrase. Weird phrase. Absolutely. All the best, yes. He went through the whole first half without doing it. I don't think that should be respectful. No, no, no, no. But then he did it as I was walking on, so it was actually fine. It wasn't mid-set. Like, if you're going to do a gobble-gobble during the show, that is not an encouragement to do so. No, it's really off-putting because most people in there don't know what the fuck's going on. I was quite disappointed with the lack of podcast listeners, judging by the response to gobble-gobble.

4:42Josh Widdicombe:I was thinking, do you know what? There is a huge position for growth in the podcast here because 80 % of the people in Canterbury that like Josh Whittacombe don't know what gobble gobble means exactly that is that is quite tricky because everyone in the room's going why did someone shout gobble gobble yeah why did rob just carry on or sort of yeah acknowledge it's awkward it's very hard i had um strong drunk people in the front row at liverpool and i think they meant well but fuck me they wouldn't shut up and then yeah at the end he basically everything i ever said he was just sort of commentating on and then going like a I did a joke for the podcast listeners where I talk about having a healthy cat and I say, don't worry kids, Beryl's had her kidneys flushed.

5:24It was a little Easter egg. no, I see that. Then what's been happening is people go, Josh's cat's called Beryl. Oh God. Yeah. That's, what happens is you have to try and explain that. And it, cause the art of standup is trying to make stuff look natural and real. Yeah. But it isn't, there's a lot going on, but you need to look quite relaxed. But yeah, the gobble gobble is quite hard. Good in the street. Toughness. yes i've listened from the beginning and looking forward to a couple of dates next year

5:52Josh Widdicombe:seeing you both in brighton uh love from felix two next month and i've just done swansea oh you've just done swansea no she lives in west sussex now oh she's originally from brighton got you do your luck what does that mean do you love good luck you're shit um how are you um How am I? I am really over excited and energized because I had, well, shall I admit this? I'd had no sleep last week, which we can go into. I had one of the most mental weeks ever. And I had a little bit of a headache and maybe a little bit of a blocked nose, but not really enough to take severe night nurse medication I've got from America.

6:41Right. Yeah. I took it because I knew that.

6:43Josh Widdicombe:Can you hear that? I can't believe it. Can you hear that drilling? No. Or is it, there's like a kind of... Do you mean actual builders, or is there someone having sex next door? I think it's someone like, it actually sounds more like someone chainsawing a hedge or something. Absolutely. Where are you? I can hear it. In Canterbury, in a hotel in Canterbury. If you've acknowledged it, that's fine. Yeah. I mean, I like to stay in a country hotel, Rob. That's my choice. But this is a town centre one, because the country one... Yeah. had a hard 10 a.m. checkout. Brutal. And I'm doing another night in Canterbury.

7:21Josh Widdicombe:So I'd have been, I'd have basically been thrown into Canterbury for the full day. That is mental 10 a.m. I love Canterbury, but the hotel options are weak. Can I ask something, Michael, about producing, producing this show? Whenever there's like a weird thing happening and Josh says, it's not me, Josh, no offense. This is going on. Michael always says, as long as you acknowledge it, it's fine. Where does that end? Josh, there's a man behind you in your bed masturbating. Don't know your noise. If you've acknowledged it, any noises, the audience will know what's happening. I'd probably draw the line there.

7:55Josh Widdicombe:Because that's happened five times now and I've never mentioned it. Would you want me to acknowledge it or not, Michael? If there was a man masturbating, should I acknowledge it or not? Show him his respect. Is that what you're doing? What I would say is if we can't hear him, we're currently audio only, so it's fine. once once we go video i'd say probably deal with it rather than acknowledge it

8:20Josh Widdicombe:oh rob can i tell you a really embarrassing thing that happened to me go on so we've moved yeah yeah so i met my neighbor right oh yeah and they were really nice that's good um if they weren't you wouldn't you wouldn't mention it no i wouldn't mention it but they were so anyway i've been having a bit of a problem i used to have two black wheelie bins in hackney we applied for a second one because we had a child a second a young child and you've got a second black wheelie we're now down to one black wheelie bin and i'm it's fortnightly connection and i'm thinking that's tough but you're gonna have to purchase one so i was putting out the second putting out my one wheelie bin on friday especially after moving this so much rubbish Yeah, exactly, because understandably, the previous people had filled the bin because you're leaving, so you've got loads of rubbish.

9:11Josh Widdicombe:You don't empty the bin. So we started with a full wheelie bin, Rob. Oh, my God. What a entry. So I then had to do the bin plus three bin bags next to the wheelie bin. Oh, you don't want to be the news people. You're getting rats. Rats are your bins out. Well, I'd kept them in the garage, the bin bags, and then I brought them out. Lovely. Oh, you've got so much more space now. You're in Exeter. I bet you love it. I can't tell you. I can't fucking reach. It's mental. Your front door used to open up to the street. I was thinking about London. Don't get me started about London.

9:44Josh Widdicombe:It's fucking mental.

9:49Yeah, I know.

9:50Josh Widdicombe:Yeah. It's fucking mental. Because I've got friends who've got a house, and this is not like... So they're slacking off everyone that's still there, or your mates? Yeah. So they're all idiots, are they? Yeah. Fair enough. Oh, that is new, Josh. I've got friends and their house is a million pounds and they don't have a garden. That is mental, isn't it? How have we worked ourselves into a society where you can pay a million pounds for a house that doesn't have a garden? I mean, it's a very first world problem, but if your house is worth a million pounds... I'm not saying so they... Yeah, like that's what I'm saying.

10:26Josh Widdicombe:It's the ultimate... It's just an illustration of the absurdity of the lack of space in London. The absurdity of the lack of space in London. It's full of the kind of people that will spend a million pounds on a house without a garden. Exactly. Nutcases. Nutcases. Fruit bags. I think, yeah, I think that is. So then we did this, Rob. I looked up the street and I saw my new neighbours had got two black bins. And I thought, interesting, it is possible. Yes. then the next morning i'm stood by the coffee shop and she comes past and i'm like great here we go and she says uh oh good morning i said morning actually great have you said actually like introduced yet or not at all yeah yeah we've met before at this point she goes morning as she walks past and i go ah great to see you um have you got two bins i said have you got two bins anyway rob yeah it was just someone that looked like her oh my god you posted something up the other day josh it really summed you up he was like no matter how hard i try my life is chaos yeah what you are you are it's just like you're a moth to a flame of it's like a sitcom i couldn't believe it had happened she was like sorry it wasn't her she said i don't really she it was a mum from the school right so i'd obviously slightly recognized her did she live nearby no she said i don't really live around it i don't live around it yeah because you could style it out as the street couldn't you yeah and i was like oh i thought you lived around here and she said i haven't got two bins can i my impression of you now is you stood there and as she says excuse me and you realize it's not the right one you think your hands secretly start to that little clap yeah when you clap your fingertips to your palm you've got your hands by your side your sleeve slightly longer than it should be you're gripping a tea in one hand and you're clapping yeah yeah it's awful

12:43Josh Widdicombe:and so how did it how did you end it well she told me she hadn't got two bins and she barely doesn't really live near me and then left and then left so did you got did you knock and ask the guys next door no did you slip it no i'll just bump into them so you didn't slip it in their bin you just put it in well i'm gonna see how the next two weeks go starting from a fresh bin get a new bin you've got the space in the garage for a bin can you just buy another bin we we just bought bins so basically when we moved to where we moved to basically long story short that the council didn't register the house existed.

13:17It was a redevelopment of a barn. It wasn't a residential dwelling. So we had to apply for it and then we tried to apply for it and they refused to send us bins because our house didn't exist. But they'd taken the fucking three months worth of council tax for it. So in the end Lou just bought three weedy bins, a brown, a green and a black off by the internet. So you're just on one black bin? So this is what

13:41Josh Widdicombe:hear me out we have this i mean i cannot believe this is a podcast can i just stop a sec and i'm having a bit of a problem with my laptop here because even though it's plugged in it's slowly going um it's going down my battery my battery's going down and we're now in the bottom 10 i'm gonna have to phone ali and see if he's got a better charger or laptop or something because this what you want a usbc charger yeah you're trying to charge your laptop your phone charger aren't you? Yeah. You fucking moron. Because I think this is going to die soon. Yeah, it's going to die. What was he talking about anyway?

14:17Josh Widdicombe:Oh, my bins. You're alright, Ali. Have you got a charger for a laptop? Yes. Is it a USB-C? Yeah, I mean... Oh, you couldn't drop it round, could you? Because my laptop's about to die. You're absolutely a legend. Cheers, Ali. Thank you. Why have you not got a laptop charger? Because I lost it in the move. my life is chaos just last night for the listeners you message was supposed to be starting at 10 you said can we start at nine and i went okay that should be fine not a problem because you need to be out the room at 12 30 and then when we all agreed nine you went oh actually can we do 9 30 oh no i was trying to do that for you oh i thought you i was trying to give you an extra half hour oh now i feel bad sorry sorry i'm just out he's adding here with a charger Michael how's he not got a fucking lead Three hours a week we need All we need is a lap This couldn't be easier Five years we've been doing this The only thing It doesn't get easier The only way easier than this is just not having a podcast It couldn't possibly Be easier Josh what is going on with you mate How have you not got a charger Because they just disappear I know, but you can buy them.

15:38Josh Widdicombe:I'm going to order one now. Yeah, do it while we're recording. I'll talk to you afterwards. Tell me about your bins. If you don't do it now, you won't do it, will you? No. Well, I will. But buy a good one, because if you buy a cheap one, it won't charge it properly. How do you find a good one? Can I talk about, at the moment, about the amount of shit at the top of an ambulance search is getting worse and worse. the amount of sponsored shit from companies i've never heard of what subscription do you want to buy a two fellow might work for you

16:17Josh Widdicombe:apple laptop charger yeah but then you don't get the apple one you get like go to apple and buy the apple one then okay okay sorry i felt i felt like i kicked a puppy what's apple's website

16:40Josh Widdicombe:guess apple.com yeah it is yeah yeah accessories is it an accessory nice yeah yeah well yeah Yeah, or I mean, right, I've got three bins. Yeah, okay. And did you get another one? Right, have you ordered it? No, I can't find it. Right, do it after. Yeah, yeah. Or buy that one off Ali. Well, we might be forced to go to Ali's laptop in a minute. Is it still going down? No, it's currently stationary. So we don't know whether it's going to. The next move is on 5%. 5 %? It's just been slowly going down. but the next move's key whether it goes up or down I suppose yeah I will do my bins I've got three bins I've got a black a brown well it barely is at the moment it's a pre-production meeting I've got three bins that are collected I get the paper and the main waste gets collected once a week twice a week so one week it's paper and general one week it's recycling I use the green and the black for black bin liners.

17:49If I go over my allocated one lot of black bin, if that makes sense, if I fill up the black bin, I use the green as backup and then I fill the paper with paper. And then I've got a little bin storage that I put the plastic in. Then I put the plastic back into the green. How's it going with charging? It's still on five. That's fine. We're stationary.

18:09Josh Widdicombe:The no news is good news. No news is good news. I've got a bit of a problem with it. You know how everywhere has different recycling rules? Fine. Yeah. Exiters is wild. Talk me through it. There's no... So you shove everything in the green bins. Yeah. In black bin liners? In no bin liners. What the fuck's going on there? All the plastic... That's all recycling? All recycling. Paper and glass and paper, plastic. Except glass, which you take to the bottle bank yourself. Paper? Hello? hello you seem to have lost Rob Michael I'm on 3 % I'm going to have to ask Ali if I can have his laptop hey friends Olivia from Ollie between new routines and the ultimate group project known as parenting you need science backed solutions that work with your life that's where Ollie comes in start your mornings off right with Maltese made to support nutrition and immune health choose from our lineup of gut supporting probiotics and we've got occasional sleep support to help the whole fan chase their big dreams Head back to class with the number one gummy supplement brand.

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20:10And I actually think I said the words, can we replace him, Michael? this is a joke like joking um but then it turned out it was my internet um completely gone absolutely nothing um so what i've done is in a panic i've grabbed my microphone you can see my microphone here josh is on my middle section of my car and i thought this would be great because i've got a power plug thing i can plug my bit it's not charging for some reason in my honda e but i've got my laptop in the car i pulled over in the village which is a five minute drive away and now I'm broadcasting sat opposite a building site.

20:41Josh Widdicombe:Because the internet's completely gone down, so you've driven somewhere where there's 3G. Yeah, so I'm now broadcasting with 4G. I'm opposite a house that's being rebuilt by my old builders that are going to see me in a minute and give me absolute pelters sat here in my real Batiste top. Trying to do a podcast. I slacked you right off and I've had the... This week's been the fucking week from hell, basically. Oh, my God. So talk to me about your week. This is mental. I feel like this is a breakdown episode Shall we turn the screens off? Turn the screens off You can, okay You just don't want to look at me in this I'm not talking into the mic, am I?

21:20Anyway, screens are off, okay

21:22Josh Widdicombe:Michael, my percentage was up to 8 and now it's gone down to 3, but we'll see where it moves next Do you know what I'm doing to get closer to the mic? Pulling my car seat forward Hear that? Right, can I tell you about my week, Josh? Josh? Yep. Where are you gone? Don't tell me you turned the mics off. I was grabbing Ali's laptop. You've got another laptop? No, I was grabbing Ali's laptop just to set it up in case this one goes wrong. Right, okay. I'll tell you about my week. I have to download Google Crime. This is a fucking disaster. So basically, I was in Liverpool last week. I did Liverpool Friday, Liverpool Saturday.

22:02Went to Sheffield. Did Sheffield matinee, Sheffield evening. Got home at 1am. woke up on the monday morning and then i did the podcast with you then the tuesday i dropped the kids at school then i had to go up to manchester to do two episodes of cat stars countdown got driven back got in at 4 30 a.m then on wednesday i did south end on thursday i did south end on friday i did south end on saturday i did south end in the meantime lou's gone down with some horrendous flu and now he's got a throat infection and she's bed bound and on antibiotics so we've had a combination of me and then the babysitter coming in to do different shifts of the kids um so i've been relieving the babysitter about 11 have i gone hello i'm here are you not here i think there's quite a big delay oh no not surprised this village is trapped in 1982 i'll keep going and then we'll try and work out the delay um then so basically um i um got home late friday night and then saturday morning um i was at home with the kids lou was unwell I had to gig Saturday night in South End I took them to their new Saturday morning clubs which spans three hours but at no point am I alone I'm with one of them I have to keep moving them around we did that for three hours then I had to take one to a party and drop her off for a party at two o 'clock I dropped her off and then I took my other daughter to another party at 2.50 that was 40 minutes from my house she wasn't feeling very well so I had to stay with her at the party i was getting picked up at 4 30 to go to south end anyway i'm still at the party at quarter to four she's really unwell the babysitter was supposed to be picking up my eldest daughter from her other party then driving to this party to pick her up to then drive them home because lou's not well my daughter's not well either so that i end up saying to that really awkwardly going like oh i'm sorry i've got she's not feeling well so we're gonna have to leave and i felt really bad because it was a new girl that's joined the school and there wasn't um many kids from the new school at the party i've had to take her home not well i take her home drop her home i have five minutes before i get picked up and get taken to south end i go to south end do another show get home at 11 o 'clock from south end lose really unwell in bed relieve the babysitter and this was my night saturday night okay i um was trying to watch the boxing and the football my eldest daughter was upset couldn't sleep i had to sit with her for 45 minutes she goes to sleep then I'm down there, downstairs again, watching telly.

24:20My other daughter comes in and goes, I've had a nightmare. I'm scared. I went, well, wait a minute. I'll come and tuck you in. I tucked her in. She got up again. In the end, she went, can I get in with mum? Went, yeah, get in with mum. I'll sleep in your bed. Fine. She gets in with mum. Anyway, I get in bed, her bed at about half one in the morning. Jesus Christ. Then I get woken up at three in the morning by the youngest. You saying that mummy's making too much noise because she's coughing and not well. Can I get back in with you? Went, yeah, not a problem. She got back in with me at 3am. At 6.30, my youngest wakes up.

24:49Rob, I've got some good news. What? I've gone up to 4%. Brilliant. I've gone down to 2 internally. So she wakes me up at 3 and gets in with me. And then at 6.30, she wakes me up and says, can you get out of my bed? I want to watch the telly. So then I get back into my bed at 6am. Lou wakes me up at 8am, right? And I'm waking up at 8am and goes, my throat's really bad. I'm going to have to go to the doctors to get more medicine. So then her dad picks her up to give her more medicine and take her somewhere. Lou can't speak and throat so bad. She goes off and does that. Then I wake up and then I've got to get the kids ready to go to a party in Ascot, which is an hour and a half drive away.

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25:28Do that. Come back. Oh, my fucking God. Had a great time. I was at a disco that had the loudest music ever. At one point, I had to judge a dance-off between two nine-year-olds, which they both wanted to win. And it was terrible having to pick one. but to be fair to the little girl the break dancing she did was top quality she won sure the other kids got upset anyway drove him home watched 10 minutes of the Manchester Derby smacked some night nurse went asleep at 9 now I speak to you on Monday morning lunchtime in the village on a mic trapped in my car and my battery's going down fucking hell

26:05Josh Widdicombe:but apart from that it's kind of right oh my god Rob fucking hell Josh This is unbelievable We're back, there's a couple of days This episode's been recorded over three days Is it four days? It's like Apocalypse Now, it's unbelievable We're caught in a kind of constant production Talk me through what happened Well what happened was I know, talk the list I know what fucking happened You had laptop lead problems Look at this little Look at that, that's a proper laptop charger And do you know what? I shouted out Apple the other day for trying to make me buy a new iPad. Yeah. I bought that on the Apple website.

26:46Josh Widdicombe:It was in my house the next day. Yeah. And what did you pay? £219 or something? No, it was 40 quid. Not too bad, actually. Not too bad. And it's safe. You don't want plug safe. This isn't a big up to Apple, but be careful buying those cheap chargers on the internet. Oh, God. Fucking hell. They're all virus, guys. They're the ultimate false economy. Right. So, basically, my internet went off. I was slagging you off for having bad technology. And as we did that, do you know what happened? My leg moved forward, right? And as it moved forward, the internet went off. So I spent about 10 minutes trying to replug in my sort of ethernet cable because I thought it was you had gone.

27:22Then I had to pack all my stuff up. But that was Monday. It is now Thursday. It said it's going to take two days to fix. There's still no internet in our house. My children, it is barbaric, Josh. We've had no internet. And when I'm talking about no internet, I'm not talking, oh, just using 4G. I'm talking, you cannot ring us. We can't message. It's quite nice. Have you got a landline? No, I'm not. What do you think I am? A landline? Who's got a landline? If someone's gave me their landline, I'd be so suspicious of them. Well, it's like businesses. Only a business.

27:56Josh Widdicombe:I am a business. You are a bloody business, yeah. But anyway, so we've got nothing to do. But it is the other way. You know when a business has got a mobile phone, I think this is a fucking tin pot situation here. No. yeah what's that we can run a business from whatsapp easy no we can't no do you know what i mean like if you go if it's like a um hsbc yeah if they haven't got a landline i hate ringing the bank that's my first worst phone call ringing the bank is it i can't remember my password well tell me your password now and we'll remember it for you what i did fonts from a password i said um i went i kept on ringing some i'm not gonna tell who it was i kept on ringing up and I went, what's your password?

28:38Oh, I can't remember. So I changed it to, I can't remember.

28:43Josh Widdicombe:Yeah, right. And I'm in. The ones where they're like, because obviously you've changed it so many times and you can't have the same one. I can tell you now, every time I need my Apple password, I just have to change my Apple password. But sometimes when I try to log into my Google or whatever, it goes, we're going to send you a code to your Android device. I'm like, I didn't even know how to fucking Android. There's something that I've got somewhere that a code goes to. Anyway, so we are, I'm in a hotel room now in the Midlands. I'm in Sutton Coldfield waiting to go. You are in Kings Lynn after being in Bedford.

29:19Welcome to the Travelling Salesman podcast.

29:23Josh Widdicombe:Exactly, two right, two happy family men out earning a bloody crust for their wives and children. My internet's fine though. Guess what my internet's been. I know this is probably impractical, but I think it might be best if you record from Sutton Coalfield every week. I'd get more sleep. You would. Even if that included driving here from five at night, driving in late at night, getting in at 2am, I'd still get more sleep. But yeah, no, so I'm in Sutton Coalfield. I did a gig last night for an electrical wholesalers where I went on after Alan Brazil, Jamie O 'Hara and Dean Saunders, who are talking about football.

30:00Nice event. And now I'm here. I'm going to play golf before I go up to do my gig. How are you, Josh? I can't remember what we were talking. It was a very strange episode. How's your parenting been? So I started the tour, Rob.

30:13Josh Widdicombe:I did Canterbury, Canterbury. Yes. And then I managed to worm away. I was meant to be going away. Suddenly, you're like... Where was you going away? No, I was meant to be on tour from Sunday to Friday morning. Because now you can't... Canterbury, you would have come home, maybe. Probably, yeah. Hour and a half, whatever, but now you're in Exeter. Well, I did Canterbury, Canterbury. Then I came home on Tuesday morning. Did they have to change all the hotel bookings when you moved house? No, we hadn't done them. Oh, right, fair enough. Also. Last minute, didn't it? Did you know you was moving before, but you were too scared to tell me because I told you you would move?

30:55No. And how do you feel about that, that I was right all along?

31:00Josh Widdicombe:I think you're one of the wisest people I know Okay so that's backfired I was trying to mug you off and then you just gave me a nice compliment Oh well done I'm the bad guy

31:13Josh Widdicombe:Happy with yourself are you Josh after that Because I've got a new sense of calm since I've left London Rob I don't mind Now you're in Kingsley Now I'm in a hotel in Kingsley I've booked a massage for this afternoon Rob in Kings Lynn. You're going to massage any extra digits. I mean, oh, that's a shame. That's a shame. You're not doing a corporate with Alan Brazil now, Rob. Come on. I'll tell you what, you do that Kingston night. You go, I love Kingston. I had a massage earlier. Much better in East Anglia with the extra digit. That'll work. I'm not saying you do the whole show of that, but you can do the give me six.

31:49Imagine if it descends

31:50Josh Widdicombe:into booing. What's that? Oh, last night, Rob. In Bedford. In Bedford. so a it was 400 degrees in the bedford corn exchange it was so hot a man had to leave in the first section because he was too hot right okay and then there was a woman fanning herself on the front row so this is a bit in with comedy but i suppose people might be interested um you know when you get comps for like your friends or family or people you know they're generally 10 rows back yeah they're sort of in really good seats but you can't see them because it's disruptive to see your friends and family yeah so my good friend karen hower who i danced with on strictly and her boyfriend simon came oh yes karen and simon legends yeah uh and uh they put them from rosetta that's absolutely wild it was so intimidating and they were just slightly to the left so i ended up being stood on the right for most of the show because you're just like i was like moving you know like when a football is constantly moving out of position because they're being played in the wrong position you're being pushed to the right by strictly i was being pushed to the right by strictly it was so weird they did that once before to me when my mother-in-law and father-in-law came at leicester square theater and they were right in the middle but yeah normally it's about 10 rows back so you can't see it too off-putting yeah god it was weird also because they're people who've never seen me before you don't want them to think you're shit so there's a lot on it do you know what i mean yeah so if it was like family or rome's or something you'd be like oh well you know they've seen me a lot of times this isn't all or nothing on tonight i think with that i used to feel like that a lot when people come to watch me oh my god they're in tonight i've got to do this got to do that but like i don't know if it's because i'm i'm so established in the tour now i'm just like it is what it is i know it works but when you're at the start it's horrible when anyone comes to see the start of the tour because that's when you get your confidence up and stuff yeah exactly at the end and also i'd done live at the apollo in the afternoon so i was fucking you've been really busy but i did live at the apollo because it got me tuesday off i could have done tuesday evening or wednesday afternoon i was like i'd rather a day off at home on tuesday good decision and work every night i've announced my bromley show on the night for january one o 'clock show 4 30 show eight o 'clock show oh he's doing it i'd rather do one day busy than spread it on three days exactly you've got your hair is sorry my hair's mild you look like do you remember mike flowers pops yeah i look at it or brian jones from ronald jones exactly what it is isn't it yeah little mod haircut it's quite off putting it looks like i'm a different person yes so i did some parenting so i went home for tuesday did the pickup my daughter's adapting really well to school um oh michael we've lost michael oh don't tell me he's he's coming no this is unbelievable this is if we've lost michael because he's living in fucking london we all need to move to fucking hotels in the middle of nowhere why don't we just rent a studio in sutton coldfield all together every day he's back he's back michael michael you went michael what the fuck's going on mate yeah honestly if you should have heard the hell out of the fuck i was just gonna stop this

35:17Josh Widdicombe:do you hear that sounds like breakfast is ready because quakers coming in hot with morning nutrition 100 whole grain oats and a good source of fiber to fuel the rhythm of your morning and kickstart your day. And that sounds absolutely delicious. Fuel to start whatever's next. Quaker, official sponsor of FIFA World Cup 26. I, oh, let's go! Got a Sam's Cafe pizza order up. Mmm, mmm, mmm. You know the best part about this spicy Italian sausage? I voted for this topping. Yeah, just another perk of being a member. Come join us. Sam's Club. um so i did the school run went home to do the school run i'm really struggling with being away from the kids yeah that is that is the hardest bit of the whole tour the last tour i did which was sandwiched covid yes i don't think they're a bit too young to give a shit i don't think my son was even born or he was born like literally the week it ended and my daughter was three but now my daughter is seven and she really you can see she's gutted when i'm going and my son he doesn't give a fuck but my daughter that's tough yeah that that is that's the heart that i definitely think that's harder than i was saying this the other day the truth is when you're away it's easier to do the tour when you're away so if you wait for three nights and you can just focus on the tour and it's hard to be away from the kids but you can do it but i think not just being a comedian but whatever your job is whether you're a comedian you're a doctor you're a nurse you're a business person you can't be a really really good parent and a really really good comedian mechanic whatever it is one of them has to give and so it's it's a constant balance of that where you and and it's impossible to go no i'm going to be everything you can't it's actually impossible and then that's what sends people mad.

37:24Josh Widdicombe:Well, that's the thing they had. A lot of people said it was quite dangerous. Was it that thing, the women who can have everything kind of attitude? And it was really, this is actually quite difficult and dangerous because it pushes people to think. Everyone else is smashing it and nailing it and you're the one that's letting the side down, basically. Because life's compromises, right? Yeah, 100%. Yeah. So I am finding that a lot more difficult on this tour, I'd say. But there we go. I mean, you've done two days. i know

37:58Josh Widdicombe:you've been to canterbury for two days i tell you what though it's like the other things i've put in in in the i don't you know when you're like why have i you basically when you're on tour you have to go say no to everything else i can't do anything else in this time yeah and that includes like social things like i you'd i'd see bands i want to go and see announce a tour and i'd go oh i have got that night off. No, I can't do that. Do you know what I mean? I can't. So Romesh offered me a ticket to go and watch Arsenal play Man City. I thought you were going to watch him. I've not seen Romesh for ages.

38:31I love going to watch the football. It's always a good match.

38:33Josh Widdicombe:Yeah. And then it was like a good one as well, like a hospitality one. That'd be amazing. But I'm like... And it's a huge match. It's massive, Arsenal-Man City. It's like, if Arsenal lose this, it has a massive impact. But if Arsenal win it, it has a huge impact. Exactly. I can't wait. So Romesh is going to have the day of our lives. You love it. But that falls out. I mean, that's this Sunday. And this week I'm already been in the Midlands. And then I go to Buxton, then Oxford and Oxford. And I've got one day off with the kids on the Sunday before they go back to school. And then I go touring again.

39:01And I'm like, no, I can't spend that, you know, going to other things. And this is funny. You know, one of my daughters, my youngest daughter's sleep has been a bit disrupted with getting in the night. Basically, she always used to sleep really well, but she's a bit more now. She'll go to sleep in her room, but wakes up in the middle of the night sometimes. tries to get with us or one of us gets in with her if Lou or me need to sleep for whatever we're doing the next day. And then she was going to bed. It's so funny. She went, night, night. She went, night, night, roommates. And I went, what? Night, night, roommates?

39:36What do you mean roommates? And then she went, we all know what's going to happen.

39:44Josh Widdicombe:Well, we're full roommates at the moment, Rob, because my son had a built-in bed in the house, so his bed's been delivered. Oh, my God. I feel like we're just repeating the same conversation. I know, it's mental. I was thinking this earlier. It's probably been a year since me and Rose consistently slept in a bed together without the kids in the room. Isn't that mental? A year of your life. Like, there's been nights. Would you say in a seven-day week, how often would it just be you currently at seven so i was currently zero because my son hasn't got a bed because when he was at the old house and the bed was finished and you was a bit more you got into a bit that was fine that was fine um but then it got no because towards the end so we've got a problem at the moment i'd be interested in people's help on this actually um is that oh because we've you know when you're like oh we've googled it so come on mate you love ai ai i fucking love it oh rob even google don't google it anymore gives you the little gemini what's your problem with ai i started chatting to chat gpt because i was bored the other day oh i was a mate yeah what was you saying i was just saying i was feeling a bit sad and away and lonely oh really oh text me next time when you're often busy chat That GPT is always there.

41:17I might not reply instantly. What did chat GPT say? Just gave me some coping strategies. Yeah. And these coping strategies are okay, but if you sign up to the premium account, we can give you really good coping strategies.

41:29Josh Widdicombe:No, I've got the protection. You pay for the premium. Of course I pay for the fucking premium. It's a business expense. It's 20 pounds a month. You can't put a price on a big shiny metal robot arm around a shoulder. Exactly. It said something. and i was like all right don't take the piss where it was like it said something that implied it was human i was like come on now like a kind of where you're like i you're really good you're really good chat with gbt5 but don't say let's pretend this is real don't say i felt like that before or something like that um so i did that with chat gbt actually where it was more i i asked it something one i asked it why do i keep buying football shirts yeah and it basically goes in the deep to ask you more questions like a therapist would yeah and it extrapolates the normal generic reason why kind of thing and and also there was a thing where a kid in a shop and his mum was like stop being annoying like that and he like wandered off and he looked so sad and i was like oh my god i think i'm actually watching a slow build of emotional trauma live here there's this ain't your boy that the mum's going you're being annoying you've been annoying and i was like if she says that once that's fine but if that's a regular thing that she says to her child whenever he's trying to get her attention yeah so you gave him a 1996 palmer shirt and said that's why you feel bad this way but i just googled what what impact will it have on a child if you keep telling them that they're annoying just out of interest yeah and it broke down the psychological impact of that where what it will do then is that they'll have no self-worth and no confidence and they'll feel like they're always putting people out so they'll become a people pleaser because they automatically assume they're annoying everyone so then they'll try and change their personality to please people so they're not being annoying to bring value whereas they should just have inherent value anyway so it's it's quite interesting like that as a tool because a lot of the time it's ignorance is bliss any sort of behavior patterns from yeah totally psychology of it so this is the problem i've got and i'm interested in people's take on this because i've chatted gpt'd it obviously and rose has googled it because she's a fucking luddite right got the yellow pages out yeah thompson local my dad could rip up yellow pages with his bare hands remember that could he was your dad jeff capes i don't know but that was a thing that you know blokes would do in the 90s now a piece of piss it's four pieces of paper little pamphlet little pamphlet so go on what did you um what did you help with uh so my son he on the surface is enjoying school like enough not like loving it like my daughter's just like straight in she's made loads of mates because obviously they're a completely new school now but your daughter was already at school and your your youngest first reception year my daughter's pretty teflon with these things like she's i get the impression she loves tasks a bit like you loves a bit of academia loves a task with a job and i wear this i do that and you like likes the structure every day and and she likes she's really into friendship right so there's lots of people to chat to so she's like i've made this friend i've made like she made a friend and then first night she was making her friend a friendship bracelet and uh like crafting something and i was thinking just chill it out here a bit mate chill it out but my son he's in reception right he i feel much more protective over because he's very soft and he's um like he have i told you he's got girls shoes because what's it called when it's shiny that black shininess paint paint yeah so my daughter got patent yeah patent it's like a copy yeah is it patent like i'm like copyright so my daughter got patent shoes when we went to shoe and he was desperate for patent shoes because he's his favorite color is pink he loves sparkles all this and i'm really worried school's going to knock that out of him do you know what i mean because you're like i don't want him to yes but anyway so we managed to get the least girly girls patent shoes they're just like black patent shoes with a velcro but you're like these are like black pink you can't have all shoes should be black at school yeah they are black they are black but he's definitely wearing girls shoes all right okay um but he's like he's so sweet and soft and like innocent if that makes sense he's younger in the year and like he's not really interested in making friends and i've because boys aren't as much not sorry what i mean he's not as interested in the i've got this friend i've got this friend yes that makes sense he just plays with people but then the other day he came home and he was like he was like i've got something to tell you during break the head teacher i was his assistant and we and he called me mr widdekombe and we uh were in charge of the playground and then he was like i've got to tell mummy and they told rose as well and i was thinking that means you didn't have anyone to play with that's why my mind was going that's why my mind was going yeah but he but the teachers will acknowledge that and then yeah no it'll be fine and he'll be he'll be totally fine if he's got a fun thing to go and do at lunch who cares i know no i was like i was pleased but there's but he's really he's gonna be fine but the problem is this is what i was gonna ask so he's not reluctant with school or he's not like crying or anything but he started wetting the bed since going to school every night and the advice is you've basically just got to kind of keep your nerve but he's literally wetting the bed every night and we're not and it's like we're not blaming him we're just dealing you know you were doing all and he doesn't seem to give a fuck he's the person who gives least a fuck about it i've wet the bed yeah and i'll have to have a bath in the morning i'd be interested if that's happened to other people and how long it lasted and oh yeah that is very very common i think and for me i think a lot well i we know how to deal with it personally but i think you know you're probably doing it already but like lowering the water intake before bed and that's before bed and all that kind of stuff we just give him five pints of water before bed like yeah yeah of course and then we squeeze his stomach really hard because we love him so much when he gets in and he's asleep are we also to help him relax we put his fingers in water i don't know whether that's a yeah the old running water feature in the bedroom running water and helps the road sleep um yeah like i say if he's enjoying it during the day that's the main thing and that will it's probably just a little bit of low level anxiety there is a lot change he's moved house he's moved school he'll just sort of get into the groove i imagine but yeah if anyone's got any advice on that that'll be yeah very welcome so i'm a lot there's i'm imagine there's lots of parents with that going on um yeah and you just don't want him to be embarrassed by it do you know what i mean i know that's cool yeah so bring it up in a podcast That was one of the things I was worried about.

48:25Josh Widdicombe:Of course, yeah.

48:29Josh Widdicombe:Rob, as if this episode isn't carnage enough, we're now putting another bit, right? Yeah. Which is... It's multi-layered. It feels like one of Bowie's later albums. You're joined by someone. I'm joined here by my lovely wife, soulmate, Louise Beckett. Hi, Lou. Hello. Soulmate. Do you know what I got told recently about having a wife? By my agent. Right. She said. You don't know how lucky you are. Yeah. She said. If you've got, if you're in the public eye and you get interviewed, a piece of advice people give people in the public eye with a partner is if you're worried about divorce, never say the phrase, I owe them everything and I couldn't have done it without them because it can be used in court against you.

49:26Yeah. I remember that.

49:28Josh Widdicombe:Yeah, well, soulmate doesn't imply that. Yeah, I was thinking that soulmate was a well-chosen word, Rob. Yeah, soulmate, she's always been there, but it doesn't mean she contributed. She doesn't contribute. Well, Lou, you've got an announcement, haven't you? because we've sort of referenced you having a new project and being at work. What are you doing? I do have an announcement, and I'm excited and terrified to say I've written a book. Amazing. Congratulations. Congratulations. You haven't read it yet. I have. Yeah, true, you have actually. Yeah, and I don't read. Rob doesn't read. You're the first guest we've had on here.

50:06I've read the book. It's a very good book.

50:10Josh Widdicombe:I'm a ringing endorsement. I can read it. If I could read it, anyone can. Tell us about the book, Lou, because I know that you are a brilliant writer and this will be brilliant, but I also know that you consider self-promotion to be an uncomfortable experience. My whole body is crawling right now. Yeah, I know. I've really enjoyed writing it. I've enjoyed all the bit up until they went, you have to go and tell people now and people have to be able to see it and touch it and read it and tell you what they think about it. And then at which point I kind of go... I'm actually feeling uncomfortable with being sat next to you, Lou.

50:44You've given off so much stress energy.

50:47Josh Widdicombe:I had this text conversation with you, actually, Lou, about it, about how neither of us, we like to make stuff, but we don't like that stuff to ever be seen by other people. No, it starts to fall down a bit when you've got a contract. I know. And they do expect at some point to sell it. So you need to sell it now then? Yes. Rob, you've read it. Rob, you're a salesman. Well, it's called Lessons from a Default Parent, and it's out next year in February. But pre-orders are, I think, when this goes out, it's going to be live. Yes, live. Link in my bio, as the hashtag influencers say. Yeah, we'll put a link.

51:29We'll put a link. Right. So you can pre-order it now.

51:33Josh Widdicombe:You can pre-order it right now. You can go on Amazon or somewhere else. And tell us about it. I feel like I'm stepping in to do your promo for you, but you've got to do it. I don't want to start being accused of man's fault. Rob, you said that. I'll interview you. Okay, I'll sit back. Yeah. So tell us about being a default parent. Why did you decide to do this book? Well, I wrote a blog a little while ago, which was basically what I felt was a really long whinge, but it was very cathartic and made me feel better. Yeah, and it was great, and it was brilliantly written, and people loved it. And then I got so many messages from people who kind of read it and identified with it and had seen bits of maybe their own experience in it.

52:16Josh Widdicombe:And it kind of became this thing of its own. And, yeah, publisher approached, asked if I'd like to make it into a really, really, really long whinge. And thus the book was born. And have you enjoyed writing it? I've really enjoyed writing it. it's it's kind of it's a it's not very serious bits of it serious but it's not like a parenting how-to it's not a manual it's not a self-help it's I don't really know what it is it's it's something that people can find um companionship through or see themselves in or learn about what it's like to be a default parent yeah I've kind of that's exactly it actually I've gone through kind of stage by stage my experiences of parenting so far and then bits of what I've done bits of research for because when you're too tired sometimes you just need a bit of science to win an argument yeah a bit of data to pack you up um I don't think Rob's gonna bow to data I don't think he's the kind of person that would accept data would win an argument I don't believe the scientists my god instinct no but as someone who's read the book it's incredibly funny as well and it's written in, you can tell it's you writing it and it's your personality comes through.

53:28Yes, I have written

53:29Josh Widdicombe:it. There is no ghost writers. No, no. Exactly. It is. Unless you think it's shit when you read it, in which case, I'm not there. In which case, blame the guy that wrote Prince Harry's. Exactly. And I'll get a bit of a hammering in it. Do you like that? Yeah, a little bit. But hey, that's default parent, but it's a really good book. And how are you feeling about it coming out, Lou?

53:50I'm going to be sick in my own mouth.

53:52Josh Widdicombe:Yeah, but that's good because do you know what that means? you care we've interviewed people here and i don't think they give a fuck about their books this is genuinely something you've wanted to do and you've loved doing and that will come across to people who read it yeah i love i love writing i love reading books i love writing i was about to say i love reading books i love writing books this is the first book i've written but um no i've really really loved it and because this this was a big part of what i spoke about in the blog it It was so nice to have something that though this, it feels, it kind of goes against every instinct because it feels really selfish to go.

54:28Josh Widdicombe:It was mine. Yeah. It was kind of a real step back into, Oh, this is something I'm doing for me. Yeah. That's not necessary. It is obviously massively about the girls because it's, I'm talking about being a parent, but it's something that was mine. Yeah. I think women especially lose a lot of identity once they have kids because you become mum and then, you know, after a while they don't need you as much as they do when they're baby babies. and then you sort of lose that and then you lose it. So I thought I'd slag them off for a book instead. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm grateful little gals. No, I don't say that.

54:59Josh Widdicombe:No, no. Difficult, isn't it? Yes. Oh, well done, Luke. What date is out? Actual book promo is going to be awful. February 12th. I'm going to have to pick you up. This is actual book promo. This is actual book promo. I've got to get a little bit slicker. This is the biggest audience for the book. Please, please all pre-order it. Because I'd really like to write another one, and if I only sell three copies, they won't let me. Exactly. The Lessons from a Default Parent, Lou Beckett, on Amazon now, pre-order. Is it Lou or is it Louise? I'm down as Lou. Nice. Because I don't like it when people go, I'm writing a book now, so I'm going to...

55:39Josh Widdicombe:I'm going to be Louise and Lou Beckett. Oh, it is there. It's on Amazon already. Is it on front cover now? Oh, it is, yeah. Yep, there you go. So it is, there'll be a link in my bio. It's on Amazon. I mean, all good bookshops I assume. Oh, look, there's a real book on the internet, Lou. Oh, my word. It's a real book. If Rob wants to stay married, it'll be on his bio as well. Yeah. And there's going to be an audio book. Oh, my God, it's on Hive, the ethical book retailer that I use to buy my books. I'm going to pre-order it now. All good bookshops, all good places. Go to hive.co.uk, buy that. And there will be an audio book as well.

56:16There you go. Oh. Lessons from a default parent. right thanks Sue now go and look after the kids right Josh let's talk

56:26I pulled the headphone out of the ear I was only joking about looking after the kids

56:32Josh Widdicombe:go and have a coffee thanks everybody it will be brilliant you'll be back on in February to do a proper interview I will yes yes please yeah definitely and yeah thanks very much in advance for anyone who orders it I appreciate it please thank you Well, let's remember this moment, Rob. By February, it'll be the hundredth bit of promo she does and she'll walk in and she'll reel out the same four anecdotes for every other fucking, for Simon Rimmer and Lorraine. Bets on how many times I vomit in my own mouth. I know. You've done well there, Lucas. I know that's been filling you with dread, just telling people that it's out.

57:09Josh Widdicombe:Well, it's in the U2. There you go. Well, well done, Lucas. A brilliant book. You should be proud. Thank you. I'm going to order it, even though I expect a free copy. Right, should we go back to the breakdown episode? Yeah. Right, I'll let you guys crack on with your important days and I'll see you later. See you later. Love you, Luke. Right, bye. Bye. Well done. Right, should we do a small business and then we'll go? Yes, we've got one here. Someone gave me one in Canterbury's. Let me just find it. I should warn you, when I walk away, I'm in my pants and T-shirt. So it's... I tell you what, I'll do this one while you're getting it, Josh, if you want.

57:47Hi Rob, Josh and Michael. Please, please, please can ask for a small business shout out from my sister and brother-in-law's company that my husband also works for. They are based in Suffolk and have a colour in kids clothing company called Selfie Craft Co. You can get personalised PJs and T-shirts, etc. Great for Christmas Eve boxes or presents sizes age 3 to 12. Website is selfieclothing.co.uk and I've asked them for a special parenting hell code. You can get 20 % off. whoa that's a good one using parent 20 the insta handle is selfie craft co s-s-e-l-f-i-e-c-r-a-f-t-c-o i really hope they get a shout out they work really hard and deserve all the success they are due but this would really help boost sales i'm sure you might get joe my husband a little bonus for me to spend love the pod love you guys thanks for the laughs anna i've got a lovely card rob

58:40Josh Widdicombe:that was given to me in Canterbury by someone whose name... I'll give you a tip. If someone gives you any letters or cards, don't read until after the gig because sometimes people can be really confessional and emotional and tell you quite a heartbreaking story and then you've got to go on and do 25 minutes about neighbours and soda streams or whatever you're up to.

59:05Josh Widdicombe:I've got those things, but the next tour is going to be good. As a huge Parenting Health fan, This is a cheeky request for a small business shout out. After having my own babies now aged 13 and 10, I realized why feeding support is so important. And I've retrained in an international board certificate lactation consultant. I passed the exam just before my little boy went to school and I've had my private practice for nearly seven years. So this is in Canterbury. She helps with breastfeeding, formula feeding, combination feeding, starting solids, right? And this week I've supported families in England, Scotland, Japan, USA.

59:38Josh Widdicombe:I help families with feeding their babies, whether that's breastfeeding, formula feeding, or a mix of both. I offer support for home visits to local families or online, and weekly feeding support groups in Canterbury, Whitstable, and Faversham. Feeding babies can be really challenging, and I'd love families to know. Skilled and experienced support is available. I do my best to help families as soon as I can after they get in touch, usually within 48 hours. I also have breast pumps available for hire. So this is Hannah Croft. There's a, okay. So it's Hannah Croft hyphen or dash. What's the one where it's like a, like a horizontal dash.

1:00:12Josh Widdicombe:Yeah. I B C L C. So that's the international board of something. .co.uk. Hannah Croft dash I B C L C.co.uk. And she'll get back to you in 48 hours and she can help you with everything from breastfeeding to formula feeding, combination feeding, starting solids. And this is in the Canterbury, Whitstable or Favisham area, but she can do online. Josh, I'll see you next time. Hopefully we're better in the net. Yeah. Right. Bye.

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