S11 EP39: Kate Garraway

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0:30Let's talk about Peyronie's disease, or PD. It's not widely talked about, and some men may feel reluctant to bring it up, but it's more common than you'd think. PD can happen when scar tissue builds up under the skin of the penis, causing a curve or the bump during an erection that, for some men, may lead to pain during intimacy and impact mental health. A trusted urology specialist can help diagnose PD and walk you through your options, including non-surgical treatment. Visit TalkAboutPD.com. Let's talk about a condition many people haven't heard of, and it turns out it's more common than you'd think.

1:04Peyronie's disease, or PD for short. PD can happen when scar tissue builds up under the skin of the penis. This can cause a curve or the bump during an erection, and for some men, lead to pain during intimacy and may impact mental health. It may also lead to anger and frustration, depression, lower self-esteem, and even withdrawal from sexual activity and physical intimacy. Because of this, some men could feel embarrassed or reluctant to talk about PD. The actual cause of PD isn't always known. In some cases, it may be linked to a minor injury or repeated injuries during sex or other physical activity.

1:41The good news is, PD is treatable. If you notice a curve with a bump, a trusted urology specialist can help diagnose it and walk you through your options, including non-surgical treatment. To learn more about Peyronie's disease, visit talkaboutpd.com. Quick trigger warning for this episode, we do discuss Father Christmas and elves, if you're listening with children, and also we do discuss the passing of Kate's late husband, Derek, and the impact that's had on them as a family.

2:12Hello, I'm Rob Beckett. And I'm Josh Whittacombe. Welcome to Parenting Hell, the show in which Josh and I discuss what it's really like to be a parent, which I would say can be a little tricky. So to make ourselves and hopefully you feel better about the trials and tribulations of modern day parenting each week we'll be chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping. Or hopefully how they're not coping. And we'll also be hearing from you the listener with your tips, advice and of course tales of parenting woe. Because let's be honest there are plenty of times when none of us know what we're doing.

2:46Hello you're listening to Parents in Hell with... Robin, can you say Rob Beckett? Rob Beckett. And can you say Josh Whittakin? Josh Whittakin. Good job. Why are you telling your phone now? He's called her on it. Couple of Aussies. He's been bootlegging. She's been bootlegging. Hi, Rob, Josh and Michael. Hello from Newcastle, Australia. Yeah, but subtle little accent there, right? Robin, 27 months having a go at saying your names. He was so impressed with himself that he insisted on more tries. This was the first of seven takes. So nearly three. I've been listening since pregnancy. It got me through the early days when everything truly feels hectic, and now the general struggles of parenthood.

3:30Thanks for the last to stay sexy and relatable from Casey. Thanks, Casey, from Newcastle, Australia. Right. I bet it's well up there, but she's going for a fucking lovely walk in the sun. I can't be bothered with this weather. I love it. I love it. I love it. I'm dark at four. My gig's at eight. Fuck it, it feels like I'm doing a gig at 3am. Why are you doing gigs at eight? Because it got booked 10 years ago before everyone started doing them fucking earlier. And then the next tour's going to be fucking matinee. What? You love it. Do you like this time of year and the cold and the dark? What's this?

4:02Yeah. It's the best. Rob, you don't like this time of year. I love Christmas. I love Christmas. I love being a bit cozy. Would you like a sunny Christmas? No. Do you know what? Like I don't like it being dark and I don't like it when it's wet. I like the cold and wrapping up. The wet does my head in. And it's been so wet the last sort of three or four weeks in it. It's constantly pissing down. And, but the Christmas spirit, the only reason Christmas exists is because someone actually invents something because it's so fucking miserable between December to February. So that's have something in the middle to liven it up because January to Feb, that is danger zones for miserableness.

4:38Yeah. I didn't, I enjoyed December, but January, you've got to go in at full pouch. Oh my God, January's tough. You've got to have stuff to do in January. January lockdown was the worst January on record. Remember that, the lockdown January? Yeah, yeah. Because we thought it was all all right and then it all went potty again before Christmas. But that's why we're here to bring joy, bring a little bit of just real life chat to get everyone through those dark winter months. Right, guys, we're in it together. Right, guys? Imagine you're a local radio DJ. How do you approach it, Rob? Hello and welcome to the show.

5:10We've got Josh Whittacombe here. We've got some great songs for you. Great chat. Great guests. And most importantly, each other. Do you see where I stumbled, right, to pretend to be sincere? Yeah. That's what I... You've already been here, have you? Not really. I'm a seasonal DJ. Right. I'm dictated by the mood. I couldn't do Radio 2 Breakfast where you've got to be happy all year because it's not how I feel. But most of the time, I'm jolly. The thing that I would struggle with if you were on, like, one of those daily shows is how do you keep it feeling exciting i'd have to be in a gang on my own yeah yeah i think i could get away that if i was with three mates doing a breakfast show i'd have to have someone on the show that's more miserable than me that i could go well at least i'm at least i'm happier than that one yeah yeah there's not many gangs anymore are there is he's gone out of fashion on the radio.

6:06There's gangs at Capital, and I think they're brilliant. Capital, obviously, is a gang. That's a breakfast one. And then Magic's more, it's Gok Wan and Harriet's. Oh, that's two. That's two. But it's not a gang. I think I need more than two. I need a gang. Does Magic need to have anyone, or is he flying solo? No, but then the thing is, if you are a gang, you're not going to be paid as much, because there's three of you doing one person's job. Well, exactly. That's why sometimes they lean on people, you know, on the news or in traffic, bringing them in, because you've got people, but you're not having to pay them.

6:32You know, or they get the producer to start chatting, they're not having to pay them an on-air fee. It's a weird thing in radio. There's like a career in not being the radio host, but being an excellent foil. Almost like an attacking midfielder. You're just constantly playing the ball through. You get a couple of goals yourself, most shows, but you're basically feeding the goat to score. Have we got someone on from the radio? Who have we got today, Michael? Kate Garraway, who is a radio host, obviously. So that's why we're doing all this. Kate Garraway. Let's talk about Kate Garraway. So, A, we'll talk to her about traitors, because I'm very excited about Traitors.

7:05I actually DM'd Kate Garroway to say that I thought she was brilliant on Traitors because I thought she came across as not taking herself too seriously and a real laugh and not competitive. Yeah, she just was having – I felt like she was just having a lovely time with some really great people. And then when they were going, who do you think it is, Kate? She was a bit like, oh, I don't know. I just quite enjoy hanging out. Yeah, exactly. I liked that attitude. The other thing about Kate Garroway, and we've discussed the motorbikes we occasionally have to get if we go between gigs before yes garraway is a big user of those motorbikes oh she loves to ride she goes from gmb good to good morning britain to her show on smooth which starts at 10 a.m i think oh yeah come on so i want to ask k k garray's from radio rob so you want to ask k garray what it was like doing the traitors and if she what if she likes getting the motorbikes yeah that's all i want to ask kate garraway should we ask her about parenting as well yeah probably won't be there's one other thing i want to ask kate garraway go on a clip i've always been obsessed with of kate garraway okay it's starting to feel you know those autograph hunters are way outside you're starting to sound like what would you ask kate garra if you've got a chance kate what's it like getting the motorbike what was celebrity traitors like and uh one one last thing this clip i've seen interview i've got a question about this so do you remember when kate garraway did i'm a celebrity get me out of here and i remember she'd been on it but not any particular clip she was on it with andrew maxwell yes comedian andrew maxwell yeah so he arrived on a speedboat yeah yeah and he was in the distance kate garraway was already there and there was an incredible moment where she looked at the speedboat in the distance and she said oh it's the irish comedian andrew maxwell oh yes yes please yeah so are you suggesting that she may not have known who it is and then asked who it was and then the production went that's an irish comedian called andrew maxwell i'm suggesting the production have said i think what's happening is the production we need to be clear who andrew maxwell is to the audience kate could you just say yeah because i'd say Andrew Maxwell, like he's brilliant, one of the best comedians live, but he hasn't done loads and loads of telly.

9:21He's done a bit of, he does the X on the Beach voiceover, and he's been on some stand-up shows. But I don't think he's in Kate Garraway's orbit. No, so I want to ask Kate Garraway if she did recognise Andrew Maxwell on a speedboat from 50 yards away. Or whether she was asked by production to maybe, and she slipped it in verbatim rather than, oh, it's Andrew Maxwell. Oh, he's a comedian, Irish guy. Yeah. Which is the way I would, you know, slip it in what one would. But she's gone, it's the Irish comedian, Andrew. But she's done it like a TV host, hasn't she? Yeah, of course. Yeah. Like she's welcoming him on Zoom during lockdown to go welcome Andrew Maxwell.

10:00Yeah. So I'll be asking her about that as well. So that's something to look forward to. Perfect. Well, I'll tell you what. I imagine she's not been asked. I imagine she's been asked about celebrity traitors. Yeah. But maybe not the other two. So it'd be good to cover new ground. Yeah, exactly. First question. Don't worry about the kids. I'm a celebrity I'm a celebrity Let's get her on and bloody find out Yeah, okay, here she is Kate Garraway, hello Hello Hello Nice to be here We're very excited to have you on, Kate We've been trying to get you for a little while But you're very busy You're a very busy woman You're very Do you know what you are, Kate?

10:35You're verging on national treasure these days No, I'm not verging on a national treasure Oh, you're there? I have a slightly crumbling institution, to be fair. I find myself strangely drawn. You know, you get things bombarding you. My algorithm is really disturbing online. So I'm increasingly getting things about preserving old buildings, which is a sign of age. And I find myself going between that and the TikTok shop for ageing creams. And the two things are merging into one. So, yeah. How's your experience on the TikTok shop, Kate? because I'm having a terrible time with some incredible tat that if I saw in real life I would never buy, but I'm being seduced by the instant satisfaction of ordering it.

11:22So I'm really new to TikTok. I decided to launch myself on an unsuspecting TikTok public just for celebrity traitors. I thought, come on, if you're going to do it, you might as well do it now because there's a whole world that may be more interested vaguely because I'm on celebrity traitors. of course it's completely addictive it's what everyone says the experience of tiktok shop i think is a little bit like a pharmacy when you're on holiday you know when you went with your parents to like devon or somewhere and there was there was very little in the village it was gorgeous actually sort of place i'd love to go to now but when you're a kid perhaps less so and you go into the pharmacy sort of yourself looking at hair clips and products that you would never normally look at just while your parents get some sight like i don't know sun creamed or something and i find myself doing that tick to think oh actually i need a projector

12:21tvs are out and projectors are in now yeah i must let's look at this project of it of course it's nonsense isn't it but it's very seductive obviously we're gonna we chat about parenting on this you've got two teenage kids what ages are they now so um 16 and 19 so the boy the the baby yeah 16 and the daughter is 19 at uni can we first relate that to celebrity traitors we will right okay i know you're are you bored of talking about it yeah no god no i'm the sort of person that in 10 years time is going to be going do you know i was once on celebrity treatments costing people in the street what can i ask firstly that because that must be have been the big decision when you got offered it right because obviously it's a big show you don't know how big it's going to be but you know the normal one's big but were you is it a situation where you're losing touch with your kids for two weeks yeah so that was really difficult actually that was the only challenge because obviously, initially when I was offered it, I don't get offered a huge amount, let's say that first of all.

13:33You're here, Kate. You're here, Kate. You're a spag bol in Mars Singer. You're right, actually. You're right. When it was Secret Celebrity Traitors for Ages, I came obviously first out in Mars Singer as spag bol. Brilliant fun, though. And then one at Celebrity Bake Off. So I said to everybody, it wasn't Celebrity Bake Off. It wasn't Mars Singer. I can say no more. In other words, it wasn't First or Last. So, yeah, no, it was very tricky with that because it's obviously been a grim old time. Yeah, of course. I don't think you can really ever say, oh, we're sorted now. But I definitely felt like it was a really tricky period.

14:16When I said yes, it was quite a sort of calm period. And then things kicked off with my daughter and things are tricky with my son, but I do have an amazing sister-in-law called Auntie Di, who is phenomenal and also an obsessive fan of traitors.

14:35And she said, do you know what? And she hadn't been able to visit for a long time because she had her own health problem. She said, look, I was saying to myself, if I come next time, I'm going to come for a long period. And we also thought I'd be first out and murdered because I wanted to be a faithful. Because it could be like two and a half weeks or two days, couldn't it? Why did you want to be a faithful? Well, I now realise, of course, that was one of my first and one of many errors. Because in a way, I had this idea. I knew I couldn't look people in the eye and lie. Because I've always been terrible at that.

15:11And I know Alan... Well, he didn't either, did he? He actually did say. He couldn't either, bless him. But I just thought, oh, that's going to be so difficult. There's no way that I could look people in the eyes of the light. Also, I kind of think there's something about trust and delivering the news where if you can lie that convincingly, then I don't know. I just think it's not a good thing. So I thought I can't do that. But I didn't really get how much fun it was to be a traitor because when you watch the civilian one, it just looks horrific being a traitor because they're all crying and I guess there's so much money at State Life, taking money and, you know, you're murdering people that you know if they won the money it would change their lives and the lives of them.

15:55Yeah, I thought there's no way I can get involved in any of that. But what has been delicious, I think, about the Celebrity Traitors series is there's just been a little bit more mischief. It was very feel-good. It was very feel-good. It was beautiful, feel-good TV. and I'd say the two moments where that really came across are Alan crying at the end which is just unbelievable and I've got to admit I went I went of course I cried because I'm a living human being you're very in touch with your emotions if anything I'm too in touch Rob we need a bit of space And also, Kate, I thought it was you talking about how you'd had such a tough time and this had done so much for you.

16:49And it felt like such a, because obviously everyone knows what you've been through. And it felt like no one expected that from the traitors. And I imagine you didn't expect that from the traitors. No, I didn't at all. I didn't at all. And I think there was just something, once I sort of mentally thought, okay, there's no contact, I can't do anything, and the auntie Di was established. And is there a rule? Is there like, do they say, if X happens, if your daughter says, I have to speak to you, what's the rule? There is. They would let it to you, and we did have that arrangement because she said, look, I just have to know I can get hold of you, understandably, and I said yes.

17:32So there is. So they can call, they have contact number, but they had their contact numbers and their contact numbers with kind of a welfare producer. And they can get hold of you if there was, I mean, obviously, if there was some, you know, because other people in the cast were having, everybody's got stuff going on in their lives, haven't they? Well, we've all seen the Angie Bowie on Big Brother clip. That's the absolute class. Right. So, you know, if you have to get through, you have to get through. Yeah. So, yeah, so that was a kind of reassuring thing. Did you feel like you had a bit, you know, when you was in the traitors, because you have so much responsibility, you know, you've got your two children.

18:10What you've went through and still going through is in everyone's mind and knows about it. But in that room, all you had to do was be a faithful or a traitor and play a game. And did you feel like a freedom of that? Because you're so famous and people will come to you in the street, I imagine, daily to remind you about stuff that's gone on, you know, that is not in your control and can blindside you. It was that sense of freedom for you in there then? Yeah, there was a huge difference. And also just the joy of play. I mean, it sounds it sounds a little bit heavy, I suppose. But when you've sort of lived with real life, life and death, you know, on a daily basis, you know what I mean?

18:46And there was like years of phone calls from doctors saying may not make it through the night and all of that. And I don't want to sound heavy. You know, that is real life, life or death. So therefore, it does help you to put into context of it. Also, you know, it's very intense in there. And I think in a way that helped me because obviously, A, everybody was suspicious of me and attacked me from day one. But B, also everybody just laughed at me for being ridiculous. And there's sort of two ways to go with that. But you either kind of get a bit flustered. Some people got flustered about things.

19:22But I kind of just thought, well, actually, do you know what? It's really lovely to laugh at myself. Yeah, that's what I loved about it. ridiculousness because you know for a long time it's been a feeling of sort of holding the world up you know with a tight grip so to be able to go you are you know when alan sort of says do you think that top needs any more bows to be able to laugh and say yeah i think it could do with more it's such a ridiculous thing and then we're all laughing it was just a lovely world of nonsense You know what I mean? Yeah, totally. Yeah, which was great. And having the chance to play.

19:58And also, what a group of people to be in with. Lovely. Every single one of them are just sort of such big personalities, have done so much in their lives in all sorts of different areas. So I found the whole thing just a roller coaster of fascinating learning about them and seeing the way people deal with things in their lives because you get very insular when you're caring. You're just kind of obviously looking inward. Have I done those plug tests? Have we done the medication? What's the temperature like today? You're looking really into the minutiae inwards. And suddenly it was just like sort of looking out and going, my gosh, you've done that.

20:36And extraordinary. And what was that like? So, yeah, it was an incredible thing, albeit, you know, in a very silly game. Yeah. Who's the best friend you've made from it? oh it's hard to say really um i mean i do love them i think jonathan and alan um i love to bits i love them both to bits absolutely brilliant i love them all they were all brilliant in different ways and obviously the ones that stayed in longer you had more time with love tom daly tom daly's knitted me a hat god bless him i might have it here do you want me to go and get it yeah go and get it if you've got it let me get it hang on so this is this is knitted from the fair and I have it here you got it within one second I know it is well it was in my hand it was in my hand look how cool is that oh look at that flabbergasted he said flabbergasted he's watching that that's amazing it arrived yesterday and I haven't really stopped wearing it I'm so excited so yeah you know Steve and Fry I mean honestly Claire Balding They're all amazing.

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23:49Offer valid May 14th through June 3rd, US only. Free delivery on appliance purchases of$998 or more. See store online for details. What did your kids make of it? Did you watch it with them? Wow. Were you nervous about the edit? And do you think it was a fair edit? I think it was a fair edit. It was a fair representation. Unfortunately. It was a Japanese fair representation. Kate, you came across brilliantly. When you went out, I messaged you, and I don't know you, but I was like, I'm going to message Kate Galloway to say how brilliant you came across. Because I just thought there was so much goodness and so much positivity.

24:24And I think the worst thing about people in the public eye is people that take themselves too seriously. That's the worst crime. And you were the opposite of that. You were a laugh, and laughing at yourself is such a positive thing. So you came across brilliantly, I thought. Well, that's very kind of you. That's fine. I was really chuffed to get your message out. I thought, oh, bless him. He doesn't know me. But he's not, you know, he's not judging. So this is a good start. No, I was judging. You're brilliant. A positive judgment. A positive judgment. A good judgment. We love that. Yeah, with the kids.

25:00So obviously they're fans. I mean, you know, there aren't many youngsters that aren't fans of it, aren't there? It's just completely sucked in. So they're very excited. So the first, so I did watch it with them. So I warned, they were like, oh God, this is going to be so embarrassing. So it was, were aired just as Darcy was three weeks into a, to starting university. Can you imagine? Oh my God. Oh my God. You barely come up from the Freshers' Week hangover. You've made a few tentative friends. You know, the whole thing's all quite fragile. And has she gone away to uni to live with people? Gone away.

25:37She's living away from home. So, yeah. Oh, my word. So she rang me up and said, okay, mum, everybody's like, works out you're in celebrity traitors. So I'm going to host a celebrity traitors party for the first episode. And invite loads of people to make some new friends. So she, in their hall of residence. So they had this big setup in whatever it is, the common room, all there waiting. She phoned me at the end of that first episode, absolutely horrified. Or maybe it's the second episode. Jane, I cannot believe you've done this to me. First of all, what's the deal with the hats? I've been telling you since primary school they are preposterous.

26:16Will you please listen to me? Everybody's laughing at me because people are taking a minute. And secondly, you're up against Nico for banishment. She's like, he is the single most popular person in the whole band. You know, they're all obsessed with Nico. I mean, you know, we all are. He's brilliant, aren't we? Isn't he? And he said, I don't know what to wish for because I don't really want you to be out. And then, but also if he's out, no one, none of my friends are ever going to speak to me again. We're up against each other. And then she said for the whole of that week, everybody saw we would kind of like do that slightly head cock thing and go, hi.

26:56Oh, nice to meet you. Oh, your mum.

27:01So that first week was, I think, quite torturous for her. but then she owned it. But you knew it was going to come good in your head. In your head. I knew I was going to stay in, but I also knew that meant Nico was going because obviously it was all filmed in a VAR. I can't remember that. So you, I watched it obviously, but obviously it all blurs into one of it. You were the, there was a cliffhanger with you and Nico because I just remember him going. Yeah, so the first murder we know somewhat spectacularly was Paloma. We don't remember that, yeah. We're all shot. At least you took it well. i don't i think it was genuinely shocking we were so shocked and obviously now we know it was alan oh my god i mean the genius of of that they the producers must have just thought we cannot believe this is happening because obviously they have no control and then the second episode on the thursday was nico and i up to be banished was the cliffhanger and we had to wake up week to another.