S11 EP4: I had a dream about Romesh

18 Aug 2025 · 52 min · 20 chapters

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In short

Parenting Hell episode focused on chaotic summer holidays, kids’ logistics (arts school, parties, nursery), and a bleak dream about comedian Romesh. Hosts Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe also trade stories about work “blagging,” including how one guest got into TV.

Guests/backgrounds

No external guest appears in the transcript; it’s primarily the two hosts. Michael (their producer/third voice) explains his path: he worked at Ordnance Survey (map digitising) and later became a TV editor/runner via September Films.

Key claims

Summer holiday management is “all over the shop” with too many parties and travel; parenting is about coping with constant admin and logistics. Dream symbolism: feeling excluded/inferior when Romesh’s premiere happens without you. Career advice: say yes to tasks, learn at night; panel shows are scarier than stand-up.

Notable examples

Wi‑Fi failing at a hotel during Romesh’s premiere; Tottenham Court Road confusion; Sean Walsh stepping in last minute; fuse blown on a bouncy castle; changing a plug fuse using a spare from an unused ice-cream maker.

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Listener Interaction: Rhys's Clip

0:00 to 0:25

A listener shares a clip of their child, Rhys, engaging in fun speech.

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Listener Interaction: Rhys's Clip

2:10 to 3:54

A listener shares a clip of their child, Rhys, engaging in fun speech.

“Yeah, the witch is what I fucking do, like a fucking loser.”

Discussion on Names and Locations

3:56 to 6:28

Hosts discuss the peculiarities of names and geographical locations.

“Do you ever, I remembered someone from uni the other day who I don't like.”

Michael's Journey into TV

12:37 to 14:00

Michael shares his background and experiences leading to his TV career.

“I set up to one of Josh Whittacombe's jokes.”

Navigating GPS Mishaps

14:00 to 17:50

Learn about the humorous consequences of GPS mapping errors and their history.

“is that a road is that a brook is that a river and sometimes we just didn't know because you're looking at like a pencil outline that's been turned into computer dots.”

Breaking Into Film: A Personal Journey

17:50 to 18:11

Discover how one guest transitioned from a runner to a successful editor in film.

“Put heavy-duty HDX totes to good use, protecting what's important to you.”

Summer Holiday Chaos

18:48 to 22:06

Explore the challenges and logistics of managing children's summer activities.

“There's a drawer open under the fish tank.”

Reflecting on Childhood Experiences

22:06 to 26:06

Discuss how childhood experiences shape parenting styles and memories.

The Art of Performance and Comedy

26:06 to 28:00

Join a conversation on the nuances of performing and finding confidence in comedy.

“Yeah, because she was in the house a lot, so you love a biscuit.”

The Scary First Moments in Comedy

28:00 to 29:48

Learn about the nerves and fears comedians face during their first performances.

“And you look, because when you first start, you're so scared because you're like, oh, my God, these are the TV people.”
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Lying Your Way into Jobs

29:48 to 31:34

Exploration of funny and relatable lies people tell to secure jobs.

“Also, have you lied your way into a job?”

Summer Holidays and Parenting Tips

31:34 to 33:46

Discussion about summer holiday experiences and a parenting tip involving a drunken night.

“I speak to you now, Monday morning at 10am, the ice is still in there.”

Summer Holidays and Parenting Tips

34:04 to 34:28

Discussion about summer holiday experiences and a parenting tip involving a drunken night.

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Electrical Troubles and DIY Solutions

35:00 to 38:22

A humorous look at dealing with electrical issues and the experience of changing a fuse.

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Car Maintenance Confusions

38:22 to 42:00

Discussion about the challenges of car maintenance and the mystery of oil.

“We're doing tooture Japanese art and then maybe in the afternoon, after lunch, we're going to do flower patterns.”

Understanding Engine Oil

42:00 to 44:30

Learn about the purpose and function of engine oil in cars.

“If I've made it to the petrol station, I've not got a problem with freezing.”

Holiday Plans and Kids' Health

44:30 to 46:24

Hear about holiday plans and the challenges of kids' health issues.

“Now me and my daughter are going to a festival with her friend and the dad.”

Life with Young Kids and House Moves

46:24 to 48:24

Discussion about the chaos of life with young kids and moving houses.

“Also, I do think it does get easier, though.”

Reflections on Aging and Family Life

48:24 to 49:59

Insights on aging, family life, and the challenges of parenting.

“Not really, not when it's some sort of like Pilate studio, lose gear in it, which I'm in there.”

Small Business Shout Outs

49:59 to 51:20

Listeners share their small businesses for shout outs and promotion.

“I'm a drum teacher based in Walthamstow, North London, but teach all over North, East and South London, looking to gain more students over 2025.”
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1:33Hello, I'm Rob Beckett. And I'm Josh Whittacombe. Welcome to Parenting Hell, the show in which Josh and I discuss what it's really like to be a parent. Which I would say can be a little tricky.

1:43Josh Widdicombe:So, to make ourselves and hopefully you feel better about the trials and tribulations of modern day parenting, Each week we'll be chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping Or hopefully how they're not coping And we'll also be hearing from you, the listener With your tips, advice and, of course, tales of parenting woe Because, let's be honest, there are plenty of times When none of us know what we're doing

2:07Hello, you're listening to Parenting Hell with...

2:10Josh Widdicombe:Rhys, can you say Josh Widdicombe? I say you can Can you say Rob Beckett? Rob Beckett. Oh, very good. Well done, Rhys. That was nice. Difficult to impress that dad. Rhys is very quick. Did he say Josh ice cream? He sounded like ice cream. Go on, go on. Rhys, can you say Josh Widdicombe? Ice cream. Ice cream. Can you say Rob Beckett? Rob Beckett. Oh, very good. Well done, Rhys. That dad, he feels difficult to please. Oh, yeah, very good. Yeah, well done. Yeah. Do you know what that felt like? A very chilled environment. Well done, Rhys. Well done. Yeah, the witch is what I fucking do, like a fucking loser.

2:54Desperate for love. Gentle parroting pussy.

2:57Josh Widdicombe:Hi, Rob, Josh and Michael. This is a little clip of our daughter Rhys, age two and a half. Well, okay. Is that a girl's name? It is. It's 2025. Go for it. It's spelled also like the shop. You know Rhys, the clothes shop? Yeah. She's recently discovered the joy of stringing sentences together. mostly involving demands for cheese or spontaneous renditions of twinkle twinkle or old mcdonald thanks so much for the endless laughs relatable stories and genuinely helpful advice your show has made many chaotic bedtimes and long car journeys infinitely more bearable enjoy the audio from our tiny dictator thanks tom and kim braham braham said like graham he's put it in said like graham location amothby near malton north i don't think this is kind of making up fucking spellings and places.

3:43Josh Widdicombe:I don't think you can say you're near Malta. If you're going to say it's near somewhere, that place has to be the place that everyone knows. Leeds. Yeah. You can't be near somewhere that we also don't know. So what's it? North Yorkshire. North Yorkshire. What's the word? Amothabee. Amothabee. Amothabee? Jesus Christ. Just have a Sharon from York. Do you ever, I remembered someone from uni the other day who I don't like. I love remembering people that I forgot I hated. yeah yeah it's great fucking pep yeah i love it and then i realized that he's got a really like um a name that's like i was oh i can just google him because he's got a really rare name oh and then you can sort of hate stalk yeah i can hate stalk yeah he only had a linkedin i need to sign up to linkedin because i i i it's not going to link you both haven't why don't we do it for the podcast okay why don't we both have a linkedin and see what we because i've never had a linkedin Neither have I because I'm not a nerd.

4:39Maybe I need to get LinkedIn. Hey, they're not nerds. They're bloody networking business people. Have any comedians got LinkedIn? Surely not. I think I accidentally signed up to one when I did something else, but I've never used – I need a proper – I'm going to do my LinkedIn and go entrepreneur, media mogul, Rob Beckett. Yeah. And then people can connect. Look, man, love your stuff. Let's connect. Let's connect. How do they connect on LinkedIn? I don't know. You can never see – are you on LinkedIn? Michael. You're the business or any members of the team in head office on LinkedIn like when you've recruited all of our the background team are you on LinkedIn?

5:18I'm not on LinkedIn I've

5:20Josh Widdicombe:never had a job interview. You've never had a job interview? Well so how did you get your first job you as a tv show editor weren't you? And you are the opposite your background is the opposite of having connections. Yeah that's true yeah. Well you're from the Isle of Wight I mean unless you want to, you know, freak. There's no way that you're a Nepo baby. If you're snuck into Black Gang Chine, this guy's got nothing to offer. Or Robin Hill Park. Yeah, man, I can get you into Black Gang Chine. You want to go down there? Toboggan, I'm your man. Some really good local there. That would rip it in Shanklin.

5:51Oh, mate, if I was in the Shanklin, I'd be fucking, I'd be Black Gang Chining all over

5:55Josh Widdicombe:the audience. Yeah, whereas I don't know what you're talking about and initially I was worried that you were going to get us cancelled. Oh, mate, I've just got us recommissioned in the other way. Black Gang chines an old theme park place that like or adventure park no it's not like a thing it's not like alton's house it's suffered over the decades from like coastal erosion so black gang china or yeah black black gang china the whole of the other white but black gang china in particular because of where it's located you now go into the entrance take a hard left and then come back out of the park because they've had to relocate the whole park outside of where the park used to be oh that's like when they build a new tube station in it and you go oh here's london bridge you get down there and walk for 15 minutes and go, you lying fucking bastard.

6:34Don't talk to me about fucking Tottenham Court Road. Go on, let's talk, I'm going to talk to you about it, go on. Then we'll find out how Michael got a job in TV. Actually, I'll tell you about Tottenham Court Road on

6:42Josh Widdicombe:Friday night, Rob. What am I doing on Friday when I'm seeing you? I don't know, what happened to me at Tottenham Court Road on Friday night. Oh, right, I thought you were saving it for when we had a meeting on Friday night. It's good Friday night to talk about Tottenham Court Road. Absolutely. It's not good enough for the show, but it's good enough for face-to-face. you can really sell it face to face get a couple of drinks down me um i went to a show on my own on friday night like a theater show yeah i had to get off at tottenham call road because i do you remember when i said i was interviewing keala settle yes for radio too yeah i couldn't find someone to come with me i've got a group where it's like oasis tickets or fontaine's dc tickets And then I was like, does anyone want to come to watch five drag artists pretending to be Princess Diana in the Diana mixtape?

7:30Josh Widdicombe:Well, I can give you three names there. Tom Allen and his boyfriend, Alfie, and my wife, Lou. They'd be all over that. They'd be all over that, like a tourist from southeast London trying to get up Black Gang Shine. So I got there. I was an hour early by mistake, so I had to just go and walk around Soho. that is also as well that that kind of show it feels like you're a closeted gay performer that's trying to come out yeah it really does feel like and you've got the same hair as princess diana you're just missing a dress so then i went i went and had i sat on my own in a falafel place and had dinner and then i went into i still had half an hour foils was open so i thought i'll go and walk around the bookshop yeah i bought a book about what it's like to be on the tennis circuit um and then i didn't get a bag so now i was carrying a book which was a mistake right so you're just holding a tennis book in the queue alone to a drag show about princess diana yeah cool and then i got to the front and he said um yeah uh i was like here's the ticket he's like yeah uh if you go downstairs and um they'll show you to your table i was like table Is it Soa Theatre?

8:44Josh Widdicombe:No. No. It was almost like a music venue. Okay. Yeah. So you had a table alone? Front centre. No.

8:59You're very professional. This is great research for Radio 2, because I definitely would have pretended to have gone and blacked it.

9:07Josh Widdicombe:Yeah. So there was like a walkway down the middle, and I was like on the edge of that walkway at the front. Are you sharing the table with anyone? Well, if I was, like, judging by the position, you're talking Anna Wintour. You know what the position she always has? No, but no, I've got three empty seats next to me at the table. Shout out to the two people on the table next to us who leant over and said, gobble, gobble. And then I kind of shifted so that I was with their table a bit so that I didn't look like I was on my own. Yes, oh, that's nice. Anyway, got away with it. there was no audience stuff, thank God.

9:41Josh Widdicombe:Yeah. Because I did ask, I said to the waiter, am I going to be a target here? And he said, well, they don't. Well, if I'm a drag performer and I see TV's Josh Widdicombe sat alone with a tennis book, that's the crowd book stuff.

9:58Josh Widdicombe:Was it a good show? I enjoyed it. It was a really fun show. The best thing about going on your own is literally the moment it finished, I had my coat on and I was leaving. and there was like there's no like oh that was good for a drink after there was none of that and was Keala Seto in that then she's amazing she must have been amazing to see that close up her voice is incredible yeah she was brilliant she was incredible then she actually overnight she due to a um personal situation she couldn't do radio too so I'd gone for no reason I was thinking that because I saw clips of you interviewing Sean Walsh doing Michael back into high repressions.

10:33So Sean Walsh came in last minute. Yeah. Oh, Josh. So that was your Friday night. That was my Friday night.

10:44Jump on the tube back, took the court road, lie on the floor next to your son's bed, get up and do the radio.

10:53Sean was good on that. Sean Walsh was well funny. He's great, isn't he? He's brilliant. And you were dressed exactly the same. Yeah, that wasn't intentional. You both had a blue sort of dress shirt on with your same glasses. I had a blue Oxford shirt on, yeah. Your glasses and your messy hair. Yeah. Messy hairs. Well, no, but you've both got similar kind of...

11:11Josh Widdicombe:Yeah. And a lot of people thought we had the same voice as well. There was some people who thought I was interviewing myself. Yeah, I mean... Which, about an hour before the show started, was the second option. One of the options. So what was wrong with Tottenham Court Road Station? No, I just think that the new Tottenham Court Road, Elizabeth Line bit, is too far from the Central Line bit. This is too London-centric. It's like bullshit, isn't it? It's a different station. It is, and they just make you walk 10 minutes under the ground. Just because you're under the ground, it doesn't mean you're at the same station.

11:46How does all the world not fall in on the tunnels? That's what I don't get about tunnels. Why are we not just falling into the tunnels? Because there's loads of tunnels. There is. I don't know. There's one still there that aren't used anymore. And also there's secret little raw mail tunnels. Oh, yeah, there is raw mail tunnels.

12:04Josh Widdicombe:You know about these little ones? Great brand, to be fair, raw mail. Great brand? Great brand, full backing. Oh, you're fully into the raw mail? Hugely, yeah. It's just really weird. Well, I've just recently done an advert for them. Oh, that makes sense, yeah. That's fine. I just thought out of nowhere in case I was going to go in on the Royal Mail and you got to try and defend the guys you wouldn't go in on the Royal Mail because there's nothing to go in on because they're so bloody good so bloody good fair enough

12:36Michael how did you get in TV? that's what we were talking about we're going to set up a LinkedIn and then we'll find out why you searched that man

12:43Josh Widdicombe:the short version is I was doing I was at film school working at the Ordnance Survey at the time Working at Ordnance Survey? I set up to one of Josh Whittacombe's jokes. Where are they based? Southampton. What is the Ordnance Survey? It's just the maps. The guys that make the maps, but basically my department, I was overseeing. Overseeing? Sorry, mate. Do you want to pop your dick back away? Fucking hell. Here he is, Captain Supervisor. Fucking hell. He's not worked, has he? He's not being head of HR at a Coldplay concert. That was the main mistake you made. it would have been travis back then train breaks or something um no so we basically obviously back in the day ordinate survey maps were drawn either by hand or sort of from aerial photographs yeah so what we were doing it was a whole team of us mostly students basically working for like an hourly rate from a recruitment agency we had to take the hand-drawn images and they had been scanned into a computer and we had to then use this software and turn them into like a digital version and then that data and that information was what was being sold so like gps companies and like map companies and stuff but basically most of it we just didn't know what we were doing this is a load of like hungover yeah of course 21 year old students and you had to like allocate things where it would be like is that a road is that a brook is that a river and sometimes we just didn't know because you're looking at like a pencil outline that's been turned into computer dots.

14:13Josh Widdicombe:So you just go, that's probably just like a country path. And basically what happened was the data that we were creating and then the Ordnance Survey was selling to GPS companies didn't come into play. That wasn't active for about eight or nine years. I don't know if you remember, probably about 15 years ago, there was a series of stories of people's GPS basically telling them to turn right. They were getting trapped. They were ending up in ditches and like in like Brooks. that was our team misallocating what we thought was like a side path on a farmland but it wasn't it was actually like a tiny little river but the gps because we told it a decade earlier that's that's probably a road it would go turn right here it would just turn the car into a brook fucking hell jesus christ and then what job out of school so how did you do that into working on paul o 'grady so my friend uh who i did was on film school with he had moved to a company in london called september films because he wanted to be a screenwriter and he said oh they've got a job here if you want it as like a runner so i was like oh amazing september films i looked it up and it was i wanted to work in film and the guy who owned the company was the guy who directed the movie buster with phil collins oh yeah about the train robbery yeah and i thought oh great this is a film company amazing quit my very nice quite well-paying job uh for a 22 year old in south hampton audit survey moved everything to london took on a lease on a flat and it was one week's worth of runner work at this company sorting out and so i basically got my foot in the door signed this lease and they went oh no no it's not it's just for a week i thought it was like a proper a job so then every time they said oh can does anyone know how to do this i would just go yeah i do and then i didn't they'd go oh does anyone know how to edit and i went yeah i do and then basically for the next week i would just spend the nights like studying up or reading books or like learning after hours love it how to use it basically just blag my way into it and then off the back of that you know you get one job another series comes up in house you do another job so basically just say yes to everything and then learn it in the background well i mean it's a dangerous way but it kind of it works in the media i wouldn't do it if i was like a surgeon

16:25yeah yeah that yeah that's different but i do think yeah okay and are you on linkedin no i've

16:30Josh Widdicombe:never been on linkedin honestly i've never had an interview the closest i came as i went in i got the paul o 'grady job because someone said they're looking for a junior editor and i went in and i just thought it was a chat and i didn't realize i was chatting to the exec at the time and i had an argument with him about whether film adaptations are ever better than books. And he said they weren't. So I just went, well, Jaws, The Godfather, and just listed off a load of films that are far better than the books. And then afterwards, I went, you know who that is, don't you? And it's like, that's the showrunner.

16:58Josh Widdicombe:I went, oh, shit. And he liked the fact that I just challenged him and questioned him. Oh, that's a classic movie scene, isn't it? The classic movie scene is where there's the scary boss and then someone stands up to them and everyone goes, and the boss loves it because he's never been spoken to like a normal human being before. And 99 % of the time, if you do that, you will be sacked immediately. You will be sacked immediately. In Michael's case, I can feel it. Whatever you do, just say yes to your boss. Yeah. If you're a surgeon, don't walk into medical school, slap the head lecture on the face and go, I've got this, buddy.

17:37I've been studying at home. Well, let's set up a LinkedIn, Josh, and see what we get.

17:43Josh Widdicombe:Yeah, we'll set up a LinkedIn. Yeah. Right now, get up to 15 % off Select Storage Solutions. Put heavy-duty HDX totes to good use, protecting what's important to you. The solid, impact-resistant design prevents cracking, and the clear base and sides make items easy to find even when the totes are stacked. Find Select Shelving and Tote Storage up to 15 % off at The Home Depot to organize every room in your home, from your garage to your attic. Visit HomeDevo.com, how doers get more done. Sierra has all the best active and outdoor brands for the super athletic stuff, like running gear for cruising up the trail.

18:23Josh Widdicombe:Woo! And the super athletic-ish stuff, like fishing gear for chilling by the creek. Nice cast. Fitness apparel to push for higher reps. You got this. and golf balls priced so you can afford to lose one. Or a few. Head to Sierra or Sierra.com for the brands you want at the prices that let you do it all. From athletic to athletic-ish, Sierra's got it. Anyway, how are your kids? Oh, my God. Summer holidays. Can I just change something behind me? My fish tank's a bit loud. Can you hear it? I can't hear your fish tank, though. There's a drawer open. There's a drawer open under the fish tank. Do you want me to close that?

19:02Is that a problem? I don't mind. It just seems, I don't know what's happened. It looks like it's been burgled. He's off. Michael, can you hear his fish tank?

19:10Josh Widdicombe:It creeps in occasionally, but generally it's fine. Well, the first time I noticed it, because I didn't realise what it was, and I thought I had a leak, I was doing the edit for an episode. Oh, right, but it seemed bubbling away. I just kept randomly hearing water, and I was taking my headphones out. I was like, my fucking office leaking. I can't believe those two fuckers are still alive in there. So how much does your daughter care about the fish now? she's got a hamster a zero so literally never gonna look at them we'll talk about them or think about them sure list it if she was to list the things that live in our house she'd probably bring bring up the fish but then once they're dead they're not furry do you know what i mean like when you're a kid actually fish are quite boring well you should have just gone on a hard launch of hamster really shouldn't you yeah yeah hamster is i think the elite best pet for a kid yeah what What do you feed your hamster, Rob?

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20:05So the classic sort of hamster mix shit you get. But also there's this like stuff, like little pellets, like porridge, that then you put a bit of water and it turns into little porridge stuff that they gave us. That's what they used to feed them when they were little.

20:16Josh Widdicombe:Oh. Plumping them up. I gave them, yeah, because ours was, it was a bit thin. So we've gone, we're doing a normal food plus a lovely fruit and veg plate. But you can't give them too much. You can't give them too much. You can't give them too much. Fucking cucumber. What a shit animal. Oh, God, I've eaten too much cucumber. Fucking hell. Green and water, mate. Oh, you can't give it two strawberries. Fucking let him live. It's an hamster. And it looks cute when they eat a strawberry, isn't it? They hold it in their little hands. It's great. It's great. I had a dream about Romesh last night. What was the dream about Romesh?

20:50It's quite bleak, actually. Was it like when you stood in for him, the main guest that you went and saw the show cancelled and it made you feel inferior?

20:59Josh Widdicombe:Well, I don't know. You see the symbolism. Go on. So I was in a hotel and the Wi-Fi wasn't working. Yeah. So I came down to reception and I was feeling ill and I just wanted to be in bed with the Wi-Fi working. And then there was a film premiere of Romesh's new movie. Oh, yeah? In the hotel. That you've not been invited to? That I'd not been invited to and I was just trying to get the Wi-Fi code. I don't think it takes a... I think I could do some Michael research to try and work. Josh, I know what this means. Was this before or after you were doing his radio show? Well, I did the radio show Saturday morning and obviously by Sunday evening I'm really processing that experience.

21:48Yeah, and then sort of subconsciously, why did the guest not want to come in?

21:52Josh Widdicombe:Yeah. But, you know, it's human nature to feel like that. human nature exactly how's it going with the summer holidays because i'm finding it quite chaotic so my daughter's at a week's arts school so you know like um like an art summer activity club yeah so we had we've had a little bit of a privileged first week in summer holidays where they went to like a performing arts school for a week being that um italia conti which is amazing they loved it so they did that for a week um and me and lou knit over to lisbon for a couple of nights for a bit of like couples time so that was amazing but now we're back and sunday to get the wi-fi three three birthday parties yesterday what well so my the eldest i took the eldest well they split though yeah so we had to do all three a late some sort of adventure playground tag thing and it was a 10 45 drop off at a leisure center 25 minutes away i went there dropped her off and then you could drop her reliever so i went to the driving range for an hour yeah it was next door then i picked her up then i'm gonna then i brought then i brought brought her back and she had to get a swimming costume because then she was going to a swimming party so that finished at 12 45 back to ours had to get to the swimming party for 1 45 then i had to pick her up at four o 'clock from there and then lou was at another party with my daughter that my daughter wanted her to stay at from two till five three hour parties i think it's an hour too long i don't know about you yeah i mean it's just too much for everyone involved get them in get them out fuck them off here's your party bag done yeah i mean that is intense i also think i feel sorry for the kids we have quite a problem at uh the school for the kids who have the summer holiday parties the attendance is bad so they often bring them earlier understandably but even way so that you can't get everyone's away it must be awful for those kids because not only are they the youngest in the year but when it comes to their birthday in august it's like a third attendance yeah they're not coming why because they're gonna have more fun on holiday yeah exactly yeah they don't really don't worry you can put a party bag aside for them give it to them in september one of the school one of the school mums i was like you're right she went yeah i was like i mean are you doing much when it's my birthday today and i went all right what are you doing she went two party runs and we're having a chinese take i was like it is shit in it yeah but anyway we we've got they're in a they're going to like a two-hour japanese art class today dropping off in a minute and then we're back but yeah it's a bit like the logistics are hard because you can't you're just well the other logistics problem is my son's in nursery which was fine because his nursery is where was the same nursery as my daughter's school but it's not the same nursery as art bash art bash so how far away is art bash it's the it's the other direction so me and rose have got to separately take them one art bash one nursery but at least he'll go to nursery if she's art bashing exactly because Is she there all day?

25:11Josh Widdicombe:No, I've got to pick her up at like quarter past three and two of her friends are there. So I'm bringing them all back to our house. Yeah. Because it's quite good because then for the next two days, it's going to be a, I'm hoping there'll be a circuit situation. So I'm going to take them for pizza tonight. And then another dad or mum's going to do another night. Hopefully that'll give us longer days. Honestly, we're in a very privileged position where I choose not to work as much in August. Yeah. So I'm around. And Lou's got more work to do from September. She's done the main part of her. We'll talk about that more later on, but she can't really talk about it at the moment.

25:49Not with all the controversy around Bonnie Blue.

25:51Josh Widdicombe:It's just difficult, isn't it? It's, you know, anyone trying to launch an OnlyFans at the moment, it's difficult. So, yeah, good luck to her. She's really going for it.

26:02But, like, because I've got mates, obviously, like, working full-time, both in office jobs and it's just like it's that it's so long and there's just no mental

26:11Josh Widdicombe:you can't just have all your holiday i don't understand what our parents because obviously i don't remember being small i remember summer holidays when i was 10 yeah and my parents could like go out because our gran lived in the other side of the house they could go out or whatever i didn't know that cranny yes do you reckon that's why you're quite sort of like older ways because your siblings were older, so you were at home with your nan a lot. I think maybe. You weren't one of those nan kids. I am a nan kid. Yeah, because she was in the house a lot, so you love a biscuit. Because I can imagine little sort of five-year-old Josh.

26:45She wasn't very nanny. She was quite young for her age, but her age was 75.

26:52Josh Widdicombe:Yeah, but I bet she fucking loved a cup of tea and biscuits. So you'd go in and she'd be smoking a silk cut and black coffee. Yeah. because she was like still obsessed with her weight even in her 70s, do you know what I mean? Oh, God. So Silk Cut and Coffee. Silk Cut and Coffee. You what? She doesn't sound like a man. Well, she was an actor in London, so she was absolutely kind of... Oh, so it's in the blood. Well, no, because I can't act. No, Faspy, you can act. I can't act. No, but you've still got that yearning for attention. I can pretend I'm enjoying a panel show. You are one of the best enjoying a panel show.

27:30I can laugh along at people I despise happily. One of the best advice you ever gave me was just laugh at everything and clap and you'll make the edit loads, even if you don't say anything.

27:41Josh Widdicombe:That was the advice I got, but I don't think it's good advice because no one's going, do you know who I want to go and see on tour? That guy that laughs a lot. No one's fucking good at laughing, that guy. But I think it is good advice in another way, in that by laughing along, you do relax. You're like you're part of the gang. Yeah, you relax. And you look, because when you first start, you're so scared because you're like, oh, my God, these are the TV people. And I'm just like this little idiot. So if you laugh along, even if it looks like you're like, oh, yeah, me and Lee Mack or me and Jimmy Carr.

28:12We're mates. We're on the show. The first time you go on, you're like, we're not mates.

28:15Josh Widdicombe:This is fucking mental. The first time you go on, when you first speak, he's fucking awful. Like the whole world stops. Yeah. It's like the Matrix. Do you know when the bullets come out and you can just see them come with your head and you go, you know, everyone's like, bang, bang, bang, bang. And you go like, well, I think. Oh, God. Oh, God. Well, funny you should say that, Dara. Yeah. And in that moment, because you have to have your elbow in line. Well, yeah, it's funny you say that about Eric Pickles and the size of his shilling trunks. But have you ever thought that? Oh, God. Fuck. Shoot me in the head.

29:03Josh Widdicombe:Can I just get up and leave? Oh, God, it's awful. Yeah. And then you're just sat there going, well, the first time I did it, I just did all of my jokes from my set. Yeah. And they were like, and I had a good one, obviously, because I knew they worked and I just basically, everyone else had written that stuff that week. This is stuff that was like two, three years old when it worked. So I had a good one and then like the producers was like, and it felt real shameful because I was like, yeah, next time, could you write some jokes for the show rather than just using your set? And I was like, oh. And I was like, no, I couldn't actually today.

29:32That's all. All I could do was that. Come on, give me a fucking chance. I was so scared. Yeah. That's brutal. That's quite a good thing, actually. Anyone, let us know your job and what is the scariest first moment for you when you first start? Like, is there a moment like in each different industry? It'd be interesting to know.

29:50Josh Widdicombe:Also, have you lied your way into a job? My friend needed a driving license to get his job. Yeah. And he didn't have a driving license. Yeah. And incredibly when they asked his things, they didn't ask for his driving license, but then every time he had to do a site visit, yeah, he'd go, they'd go, um, right. So we'll go. He was like working in, um, town planning and they'd have to go to a site and he'd have to pretend he was going out to drive and then peg it to the public transport. And then pretend he parked around the corner so that they didn't see him. Oh yeah. Lies, lies for a job. and then the worst moment in your job.

30:30When you remember, when you first started your career, what was the moment for us, sat on a panel show, that first word?

30:35Josh Widdicombe:I think that's worse than stand-up because at least in stand-up, you're walking up, you know what you're doing, da-da-da. You're not into – there's always the option in a panel show, I could just sit here. I don't have to speak. Whereas stand-up, you're kind of – the situation just plays out. And there's always another one the next night. So I definitely think your first time on a panel show when you have to interject. But you must be the same. if you're like in an office job and you get a promotion to a senior level and it's like well what do you think and you're like i don't really because especially at the top level of like some jobs if you're like ceo you don't need to know anything about that industry really ceos just jump from like they'll go from like petrol company down to like the fa yeah exactly um also if you if you are really high up you can do it anonymously email it yeah please we'd love this it makes everyone feel better because no one knows what they're doing really yeah everyone's blagging it and hoping for the best yeah um anyway talk to me about summer holidays rob summer holidays so we had the parties i tell you what i bought for the garden a toy bahamas ice box if we're going back to product reviews this is not an advert um i put ice in there if we had a little get together on saturday morning saturday got ice put ice in there on uh 10 a.m Saturday morning.

31:52I speak to you now, Monday morning at 10am, the ice is still in there. Wow. 48 hours. I tell you what, if you wanted a glass of rosé now.

32:03Josh Widdicombe:You could have one. You can have one. You could have one. So that was good. We had a little, we've got a little - Do you have ice in your rosé? That's what my mum does. Oh yeah, so right, me and Lou thought we'd crack the code. We'd been, over the summer, been having bottles of rosé, yeah, with loads of ice. And we said, well, it's great because actually you get a little buzz but there's so much ice in there it's actually hydrating us right yeah yeah anyway we're doing this on a couple of people over on saturday we keep getting absolutely fucked out of our head of course you're drinking rose i know rose is lethal but we thought so the fact it's colder in a way makes it easier to drink exactly but it doesn't feel like wine and it doesn't really taste like wine because it's diluted but we are we would drink and lou was lou was so hung over so funny you know so what we last couple of days we've been um having to sleep like the young our youngest was like being disturbed in a night so i'll keep waking up i'm scared can you come and sleep with me so one of us has basically just been like mainly lou actually i did it last night but mainly lou it's basically at two in the morning rather than trying to reset it it's just got in the bed because that way we all sleep and then we're going to work on it over the summer holidays um anyway so lou was in bed with her and then she woke her and i don't know But she woke up.

33:16So she basically got her kid back to sleep. And then Lou woke up in the night to be sick. And Lou's a loud sicker, right? So she's woke everyone up being sick. And in the end, my daughter that's sort of scared to sleep at her own went, it's okay, mummy, you can go back to your room. That may have. That's good. That's good. May have cracked it. So she. That's a parenting tip. Yeah. It gets so hammered on Rosa. your daughter doesn't want you.

33:45Josh Widdicombe:Exactly. So she sent her back and then she got in with me. And then they were at the party and my daughter was telling everyone, my mummy was sick last night and woke me up because she drank too much wine. Oh no. In front of all the school parents. Oh no. Right now, get up to 15 % off Select Storage Solutions. Put heavy duty HDX totes to good use, protecting what's important to you. The solid, impact resistant design prevents cracking and the clear base and sides make items easy to find even when the totes are stacked. Find select shelving and tote storage up to 15 % off at the Home Depot to organize every room in your home from your garage to your attic.

34:28Josh Widdicombe:Visit homedepot.com. How doers get more done. Sierra has all the best active and outdoor brands for the super athletic stuff like running gear for cruising up the trail. Woo! And the super athlete-ish stuff, like fishing gear for chilling by the creek. Nice cast. Fitness apparel to push for higher reps. You got this. And golf balls priced so you can afford to lose one. Or a few. Head to Sierra or Sierra.com for the brands you want at the prices that let you do it all. From athletic to athletic-ish, Sierra's got it. I changed to fuse, Josh. Oh, yeah. We had a little inflatable thing on Saturday for the kids to play on.

35:12The guys delivered the night before. Jumping Jacks, Bouncy Castle guys, pretty good guys. Anyway, we plugged it back in in the morning, but it was a bit wet still, so it blew the fuse.

35:22Josh Widdicombe:Yeah. So I rung my electrician guy, Ryan, big up Ryan. I know I've given grief for lagging tickets a lot, but he's a good guy. Ryan, I mean, the thing is, I would like to give him a shout-out, but all I know is he's called Ryan and he lives in Bromley. So just shout Ryan and you might find an electrician. Anyway, he rang me up and he spoke me through it. He's got LinkedIn. I had to get a, this is really embarrassing because I'm useless, right, at stuff. Yeah. I had to, I went, mate, I think, because I've heard my dad say it before. I think, look, I've checked the fuse board. Nothing's flicked over.

35:55Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's one of the ones I do. I think the fuse on the plug has blown.

36:00Josh Widdicombe:Okay. I've not seen that in years. That used to happen all the time when I was a kid. My dad was always changing the fuse on a plug. It doesn't seem to happen anymore. Well, it did for me. Before, it normally trips. That's what they say. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It trips. Trips the switch. All these, yeah, it tripped the switch. So I checked the switch. It hadn't tripped. No tripped. So then I went to where sometimes when we have a power cut, there's another little box. I don't know what it does. I've heard the word isolated before. Right. Don't know what that means. Anyway, but normally if my little back gate don't open, if I press this button, the electric's come back on.

36:31I went to press the button, wouldn't come back on. no light no light Josh oh no so I was like I think the fuse is blown I rung Ryan he rung me back Saturday morning 8am we've got people arriving we've got deflated stuff I've still got to do a dog walk he rings me went hey you get a screwdriver stick it in there pop it out change the fuse I

36:50Josh Widdicombe:went okay Ryan I'll do that where did you get your spare fuse well this is the embarrassing part I panicked because I've got the old fuse and I'm like I need a fuse I went to you got any fuses She's like, nah. And then I'm starting to do Josh Widdick and banter about the fuse chocolate bar. Oh, I know what you're doing. I know what I do in this situation. What's that? Get a plug that you're not using. Take the fuse out of there. That's exactly what I should have done. What I did was text all my neighbours and ask them, do you have a fuse? Oh, dear. Yeah. And then they sort of replied, yeah. I've got loads.

37:27I'm still going to need one. But then like, and they're pretty just looking at my house going, he must have so many plugs in there honestly i reckon i've probably got about 500 fuses of course of course and you'll have stuff like definitely on stuff i'm not using yeah you'll have like an old

37:41Josh Widdicombe:for for a plug that goes to a one that'll have a plug on the end that's just in a drawer and you know what i sacrificed the ice cream maker because we've made ice cream once four years ago never again so i actually worked it out and i was like oh yeah there's fuses everywhere It's for you to do it. It's for you to do it. It's for you to do it. It's for you to do it. It's for you to do it everywhere, mate. Yeah, yeah. I was like, then I felt really good about myself because I'd found one in the ice cream maker plug, unscrewed it, got it, and then, like, put it in, and it worked. And it all came back on.

38:12I bet you felt incredible. It felt quite masculine, quite sexy. Yeah. Nearly took my top off and drunk a Diet Coke in front of Lou just to see if it sort of, you know, stirred anything. Yeah. Come on, Lou, get me on the OF. Throwing up again. and then I had really like to sort of semi-apologise and explain that I'm an idiot to the neighbours on the neighbour group because I sent it to the group like they'd make the whole and they're all like the guys are like that. So if someone said you've got loads of fuses in everything No but that was the implication of like yeah of course it's like saying hello anyone has anyone got any walls yeah has anyone got any bricks in their house wall um yeah so but they're really nice but they're all very handy so there's like one guy like races cars and he's always working his car one guy is like a like like a farmer he's got like he does all farming he's got loads of equipment the other guy runs a company and they're already hands on like when we had a wasp nest he came around a big pole and poison and pump me nest yeah all right i don't want to have it right i had a similarly uh pathetic

39:16Josh Widdicombe:thing that I was proud of. Yeah. In the terms of practicality. Oh, one second. Hello. You going now? Do you want to say hello to Josh? Hello. Hello. Oh yeah, have fun. You're going off to art school? Yeah. What are you doing there? Two dogs now as well. Oh, you've had a nightmare. We're doing tooture Japanese art and then maybe in the afternoon, after lunch, we're going to do flower patterns. Oh, wow. Nice. Have a good time. Right, are you going in the car now with Mummy? Yes, she's just going to meet on. That's how I see you. Sorry about this. Bye. Bye. Are you going the other way? Love you, bye.

39:57Absolutely nothing. That's fine. I enjoy it. So are you going in the car now? So are you going to not be here for a bit soon? Because it's quite cute, but I do need to sort of pump out some content contractually. I mean, it's fine for us because we do this, but imagine if you're sacking someone on Zoom or something, or you're having a really important meeting about the company falling apart and then your kids bowl here. They're like... Well, I talk to people that have that for summer holidays.

40:21Josh Widdicombe:Yeah. My friend said she literally had her arm out keeping a child out of shot while she was in a meeting. Yeah. Like, because you just... I don't give a shit. Like, it doesn't matter. Well, for us, it doesn't... Our show is about parenting and how difficult it is to manage. If you were Stephen Bartlett, it might be a bit more difficult. You've just got someone to the verge of tears. Exhausted in being Stephen Bartlett. No dig at him personally. I'm sure he's a great guy. But that kind of professionalism and that kind of ambition, I don't know if there's something wrong with me. I always think this about Gary Neville.

40:59Josh Widdicombe:I think, what are you running from? I love Gary Neville. I love him. I love him. It's non-stop. Chill. Don't attack the day. Have you thought about not attacking the day? Because I feel like me and you attack the day quite hard anyway. Yeah, the day attacks me. And I basically fight back for 12 hours and go to bed. Stick the white flag up, lay on the floor next to your son and have a gift. Exactly. The day attacks me. So I changed the oil in my car, Rob. Oh, go on. Yeah, impressed? Yeah. So I got a message from my car and it said, you're oil, you're dangerously low on oil. Yeah. Or low minimum.

41:45Josh Widdicombe:They don't sell oil at service stations. Yeah, I find it quite hard to find oil. Yeah. What the fuck's going on? Where'd you get oil? I don't even know what AdBlue is, but they've got fuck loads of AdBlue. And they've got fucking antifreeze or whatever it's called. If I've made it to the petrol station, I've not got a problem with freezing. Like if I made it to... But your windscreen washer fluid they have. Windscreen washer fluid. And then logs. And then logs. What the fuck? Come on. Propane gas. A bit less, few less grenade bars, just a few more pots of fucking engine oil. I don't need protein.

42:18Josh Widdicombe:I need oil. Exactly. So where'd you get it? Like a small garage. So I went, I was going down a motorway, in and out every service station failing. And then we got to Lewis where we're going to Rose's dad's. Yeah. And then you just go into the local garage and they've got it. And you're like, why are the big guys not selling oil? I don't know. Do all cars need oil? Not electric cars. Do they need oil? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. What does oil do? What's the difference between oil and petrol? I don't know what it does. Does it... Does it... Does it oil the engine? Does it oil the engine?

42:53Does it make it all loosey-goosey? What does oil do? Is it like lube for an engine?

42:56Josh Widdicombe:I think it must be, isn't it? It's lube for cars. Oil do in a car. Because I find this very frustrating because it's assumed in our relationship between me I should know all this because I'm a man, but I don't know. It serves as a crucial lubricant and coolant for the energy's moving parts. Dirty engine. Dirty pistons. It minimizes friction between these parts, preventing wear and tear. And also helps cool the engine by absorbing and dissipating heat. Oh, stop it. Additionally, oil acts as a cleaning agent, carrying away debris. I don't think I need to add to take it away the dirty bitch should I be getting rid of the old oil should I be getting an erection you can't fucking suck out the oil mate just top it up with new stuff surely where's the oil it's getting used up in the end it's getting luked up in it what's it doing coming out the exhaust I don't know where it's going I don't know where it's going I think it's just getting absorbed by the nuts and bolts what happens when you lube your dick It just gets used up in the vagina, doesn't it?

44:05Or arse. Only 25. Stick your dick where you want, mate.

44:14Or hand. Not mouth. You don't need a loop for your mouth, do you? No, it tastes weird.

44:22Josh Widdicombe:So that's what oil does, fair enough. Yeah. So there we go. Lovely. So that's oil for you. That's oil sorted. That's oil sorted. It's been a weird episode. it's been a weird episode what have you got planned with the kids it's time of holidays so my daughter's going to the art thing all week yeah my son is going to nursery yeah I've told you he's having his tonsils out oh yeah you said when's that is that over some holiday yeah and then he's got a 10 day cooling off period cooling off what like he can't hang out with other kids for 10 days so that means he's out when is that because he can't get infected he's got to be away from infection right so he oh that's hot so what are you going to do Well, he doesn't know yet that he's not going to the festival with...

45:05Josh Widdicombe:Now me and my daughter are going to a festival with her friend and the dad. Oh, was he supposed to be going to a festival altogether? The four of us, yeah. We're going to go to Big Feast of them. Oh, so he's going to be at home with Rose? Yeah. Oh. And then... I saw, didn't he? What can you do? What can you do? Well, cinema... Well, it's better now than if it was during the term, is it? I don't know. Yeah, because he'd have to be like off school or what. Yeah. You'd just have to think of... I think you can take him outside. No, of course, but you're just like not into a soft play or stuff like that.

45:37Like a cinema or fun little day dates with Rose or whatever. Oh, God, to the fucking park. Back to the park?

45:43Josh Widdicombe:Back to the fucking park. But then the park's going to be... Yeah, but at least it's ever... It's like... How long has he been in hospital for? I suppose you think, what was it like? Where would you go during COVID? What? How long... Is it overnight in hospital as well? No. It's in and out? Just in, slice them out, come out. It's horrible, isn't it? It's grim. It's going to be fucking rubbish. And are you camping at this festival as well? We've got posh camping. Oh, camping. That'll be fun as well, though, for the older girls and dads. Yeah, it'll be fine. Any other things planned? Well, we're currently, our life is just completely all over the shop, Rob.

46:19As we discussed, you're trying to move house, which we're doing secret episodes on.

46:24Josh Widdicombe:Oh, my God. this morning I was just like I just can't imagine what life would be like if it was I mean does life ever calm down but I'm thinking about this I I don't think life ever calms down I think you get better at managing your reaction to the life yeah so I'm pretty chilled about it generally but occasionally it creeps up on me and I think I literally don't feel like I have a job I feel like I'm just a man doing admin about a house move. Also, I do think it does get easier, though. Tom Hanks looks unbelievable at the moment. He's not dealing with a house move. No, no, it's just what I'm saying.

47:01Let me finish, baby. What he was saying was, someone said to me, you look great. He's super fit, super healthy looking and quite tanned and stuff. And I was like, you look amazing for your age. He's like 60-odd. He went, you look so good. Why do you look so good? What's your secret? He went, my life's easy. he went when i was 35 it was like it is the worst the most difficult part of your life you never get time to yourself you're dealing with kids you're up early you're not sleeping you'll get your your your life is 69 rob yeah but he looks great and he was just saying there's a clip somewhere after trying to find it but basically just says like that 10 year period of your life you are so stretched and it feels like yeah you've got no time to yourself and it'll never get better but it gradually does and it's just you're you're in that zone at the moment of that two really young kids trying to do stuff but then once they get to secondary school and you're in that obviously there'll be challenges and it'll be more emotional or mental but you will you'll be in a new house you won't be being woken up at 6 15 and told to go downstairs and blah blah blah and then you won't be thinking fuck i need to and you'll be in the place you're probably going to spend the next 20 years yeah happily so well let's not fingers crossed let's not bet on happily but we'll be there we'll be there yeah we'll move again i might die i want to die in this house do you yeah um i don't want to move again really yeah can't be bothered the problem with houses is what the way it works is you get to a point where like your house is big enough hopefully for everyone that needs to live in it right yeah then as your life progresses you may get promoted or earn more money as you've got most people as you get older you know earn more money if they're getting promoted and stuff you're the old capitalism devil on your shoulder will go or you've got x amount more a month which means if you go on right move you can get a house worth

48:48Josh Widdicombe:this much if you do that down move are you not planning like that's what i wonder is the the down is yeah but that's a long way off is the rattling around in the house yeah well out we've we've got a nice size house but it's like it's definitely fine for two people to live in is it yeah 100 it wouldn't be too big at all really so that's lovely you wouldn't feel emotional when you're walking past the two kids' bedrooms every morning and they're empty because... Not really, not when it's some sort of like Pilate studio, lose gear in it, which I'm in there. Move it upstairs. But yeah, this is... So don't...

49:25Life gets less busy. You'll be all right. Yeah, yeah. Looking forward to the tour? Before you know it, you'll have a cup of coffee and a silk cut in your daughter's house as granddad lives in the corner. Telling anecdotes about the old days. About laughing at people's jokes on Mock the Week. What's Mock the Week? Exactly. Forget it. Yeah, yeah. Everyone wore a flowery shirt and shouted. Yeah, come on. You must know here.

49:48Josh Widdicombe:A fake microphone at the front. Come on. Oh, right. Let's do some small business shout outs, Josh. Yeah. That was a weird episode. I enjoyed that though. Yeah. Here we go. Here we go. Hi, Rob and Josh. I'm a drum teacher based in Walthamstow, North London, but teach all over North, East and South London, looking to gain more students over 2025. I teach up to any level and have experience teaching in schools and with SCN students offering all Parenting Hell listeners a free first lesson. Jesus, he's going to be a busy boy. If they email drummer and a little dash Fraser. So it's D-R-U-M-M-E-R. Is it a hyphen or a little dash?

50:32What's that? I've never seen that in an email before. Hyphen. That's called a hyphen. drummer-fraser, F-R-A-Z-E-R, at hotmail.com. That's drummer-fraser, F-R-A-Z-E-R, at hotmail.com. You just put Parenting Hell in the subject. I also manage a function band called 4toFloor, and we are experienced in playing all types of events, from corporate parties to weddings. Email us now to get a 20 % discount for your party at fraser at four to floor f-o-u-r-t-o-f-l-o-o-r.com instagram is fraser stanford f-r-a-z-e-r-s-t-a-n-f-o-r-d and the band's insta is four to floor band really appreciate the shout out if this gets to you

51:19Josh Widdicombe:cheers fraser good luck hello i would love a small business shout out for my sister leone Lani, L-E-O-N-I. She's an avid listener with two children, age three and four. She's been putting the business she started in 2013 on the back burner until both her kids start school, which will happen this September. I'm sure a shout out would give her a great boost. She creates gorgeous wedding invitations and stationery, table plan, order and service, save the dates, et cetera. She designs and makes all of the items herself by hand to ensure great love and care goes into each and every one of them. all of her items can be personalized and adapted to suit the wedding she's an amazing mum and a lovely sister her etsy shop is from leone with love l-e-o-n-i is how you spell it many thanks sean 518 months old mother of two feral preteens lovely stuff josh i'll see you next week on the flip side cheers bye

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