S11 EP6: My son had his tonsils taken out

23:42Josh Widdicombe:It was great, though. So when I picture caravan park, I picture 300 caravans full of 70-year-olds in a field with some showers. It's an absolute wild west, the caravan park. It's like Bitcoin. it can swing wildly to sort of it covers really different things yeah so so what this one we go to is down in the new forest which is amazing do you like the new forest i don't really know it but i've heard it's great it's so underrated it's so good basically it's like the kids love it because everywhere like when you're in it it's all cattle grids you're just driving along there's just animals everywhere yeah horses and they've got pigs um never never never is that what they Have you ever dark more?

24:28Yeah. Not pigs. Horses. Sheep. How many? No, but roaming free across the roads. Yeah. What, in Dartmoor? Yeah. Is that the same? Yeah. Why don't people go there then? They do. Do they? Yeah. I've not known anyone that's ever been to Dartmoor. On holiday. They're going to Dartmoor. What does that say? They're just walking about.

24:54Josh Widdicombe:Yeah. No. I was there the other day and there was about 30 sheep in the road and I just had to kind of confidently push through them with my car, not making contact just before you just got to confidently move and they will move out of the way. Right. Okay. So it's a bit like the new forest. Anyway. Yeah. New forest. It's like Dartmoor. I didn't know this. So, but what's quite good is, so the one we go to, there's like Portons and Pepper Pigwell, which is nearby. Oh, right. And also there's loads of nice pubs you can walk to and there's country parks and there's like loads, just loads of stuff.

25:24but it's just driving around and seeing all the animals is amazing the kids all love it but the key to a good caravan park is you want one that hasn't really got a clubhouse right why because the club and you want one that's got more owners and holiday makers and so it's not busy when you go to little but you want a little bar and a play area but if you have a clubhouse and it becomes a bit too lively clubhouse so clubhouse is where there'll be someone like doing running bingo and there's a singer and then because the one we went to have a little bar and a restaurant it was shut by about nine so it was more aimed at younger kids and older people so do people own caravans mate i can't i can't believe how expensive they stack caravans right and they're like they're nicely done but it is literally cardboard i think if i run at the wall i'd come out the other side yeah yeah and we'll look at them up for like some of them are like 300 000 pounds fucking with the pitch wouldn't it used to have to pay yearly jesus christ so there's an extra fee every year yeah to be on the caravan park but um anyway it was really good fun and the kids loved it and what's good about it because it was a smaller one and it was mainly younger kids they they went on their bikes and the eldest because we went with another couple the eldest was like 11 and the youngest was mine who was seven and they just went on bikes right rode bikes around without us so they were like they felt like those in the goonies it was like this yeah we're we and it feels so big to them and stuff so that was but there was beef on the caravan park josh what it was beef there was a group of kids being mean to our kids oh god so they come back and so my daughter was on a bike and she came back over to me crying her leg she a proper off the bike knee graze blood blood all over her knee jesus even gravel in it oh god said that this kid jumped out on her of the bushes jumped out and shouted at her and chased her and then she tried to get away and slipped and fell off the bike oh jesus so anyway i'll pick her up take her to loo she's refusing to have a sterile wipe and it'd be so dirty that is a classic it's

27:18Josh Widdicombe:an absolute parenting classic is the just let me spray the fucking one fucking wipe just let me just so that i can say to myself i've done it yes it'll so do and i was just like just wipe it wipe it and then i went i'd i'd had a couple of drinks as this is oh well it's fine if you want your leg to get gangrene that's fine no i went how much do i need to pay you i went i'll give you a pound she went no i went how much she went 30 i went 30 in the end we agreed on 20 which was mental but then i hadn't given me any pocket money for the trip what about the other sister she's dragging herself across the gravel in the hope of getting 20 quid yeah i mean that was bad but i mean it was like i say it was bad parenting yeah but it's lovely to hear that other people are doing stuff like that as i did it i was like this is terrible parenting i would judge but and then they went down to the trampolines and then they come back went oh they kicked our can of drink over so it was a proper like and then they went oh they've run up to us and said we wish oh i can't remember what it was it was like um you're dead to us so did you step in well then i was like just say to them you don't want to play with them until you leave you alone and then it carried on and then was on the i saw them in the playground bit and there was like a zip line and my daughter was waiting enough to have a go and then there was the three kids that had been a bit mean were like doing the zip line and then i was like right it's her go now you said that no i could see and i was like i just knew that they weren't going to let her have a go yeah because they're being mean to now there's three kids there was one child that was definitely the ringleader and two of these kids following that kid about they're probably between like nine and seven right yeah similar age to the younger ones but they had older brothers that were like it's about 15 16 17 and then they kept on going like oh if you're mean to us we'll get our big brother which when you're nine is the scariest sentence anyone can ever say in it right anyways i'm watching i was like ah and he basically jumped on the zip line again and didn't let my daughter ever go so then i just wandered over and just sat with them and then you could just feel the energy change slightly because they're like oh and also you always know when a kid's a naughty kid because the way they react to an adult when they come yeah yeah do you know i mean we're normal kids don't give a shit they're just it's a person nearby but a naughty kid always looks at you a bit like up and down like oh they're gonna catch me so anyway i just sat there and then when i sat there they gave the thing over to my daughter because i think they knew i was there counting goes and then that carried on and then yeah and then they were chase and then come over to went they keep chasing us they keep chasing us on our bikes were their parents kicking around anyway right now we saw the parents once just sat at the bar not getting involved with the older kids i get the impression the young the naughtier kid maybe wasn't getting enough attention right it was causing trouble and then the two other kids that were with him were sort of following him along right that's what that's impression i got so anyway the friends we were with the mum went up and just said that she just said it went up to the The kids went, so has anything happened between, have our kids done anything to you guys?

30:24Because, you know. That's a good way of framing it. What's going on? Because, you know, you keep chasing them, you're jumping out of them, you're knocking their drink up, you're not letting them have go. So have they done anything to upset you guys? Because if so, let's all just apologize and move on. That's a great, that's a great way of. And then they were like, no. And then I think, and then the two kids that were sort of following the naughty ball got a bit upset. Because I think they were like, oh yeah, we are just being a bit mean for no reason. oh god and then then it got really awkward because then the older brother come over and went oh look yeah i have overheard them saying mean things to the kids i'm really sorry um and then he brought the younger so this was kid was about 16 really nice boy he's like yeah i'm really sorry and he brought them over and got them to apologize and then it was really awkward i was like but um but it was fine it was just kids got to learn that kind of thing haven't they but um yeah it was just like caravan park beef you've got a little bit of caravan park beef and is that your first trip with the kids to the caravan park no we went to we went there a few years ago what are your facilities like so in the lodge you've got basically we had like a four-bed one so the biggest one they do but both families were in it yeah two double beds and then one both with toilets and then a main toilet and bath and then two tiny little twins that literally it's so it felt like you know the sleeper smaller than the sleeper train garage right and then you've got a living area and then a little deck bit but then on this one it had like a park it had trampolines had a little splash pad area with water in for when it was nice you have a swimming pool but i'd say if you avoid the swimming pool caravan parks and avoid the clubhouse ones then it is a bit more calmer you know i mean it felt like this one was very much people with young children staying there to go to peppa pig for the weekend so get there friday go to the pig saturday come home sunday or monday or whatever so it was really good actually It was like English.

32:16Like I quite enjoyed having beef with other kids. You know, I've got to learn to. Do you know what?

32:20Josh Widdicombe:You've got to be exposed to stuff, haven't you? Yeah. It's difficult with stuff like that because you don't know how much you should step in. Well, yeah, because we didn't step in at all apart from I went and just went up there to make sure they were getting a go on the ride. And then, but then it was getting to a point though where they weren't comfortable riding their bikes because these other kids just kept chasing them. And it wasn't a fun game. so that's when um our friend said have they upset you what's going on and then it was fine yeah it all got sorted but stuff like that so weird isn't it because we were on holiday and my daughter was made friends with some other kids and you forget how oh here's something because they were all doing synchronized swimming lessons yeah obviously yeah yeah the synchronized swimming lessons my daughter was loving it did you find the people that on holidays that lead to these classes of kids arrive at these sort of like beautiful like people that have fallen from the heavens of angels that just love kids love fun and they're in it 100 they love the kids the kids love them and then it's like who is this angel person that can deal with all this and synchronized swim yeah and synchronized swim it's either that or someone that looks on the edge and they're just their soul has left their body and i'm like why did you pick this as a job i know but that i think it's the difference between july and september

33:51Josh Widdicombe:i think that's where we are really yeah maybe um it's a bit like um the people that host magic radio in the last week of november and then the week before christmas they've gone do you know what i mean they've they've absolutely they love it that's a long last week in november they're like you should do a christmas show magic like a special one oh yeah love it anyway it's the synchronized swimmer yeah and i say i was like fair play to her yeah yeah afterwards you have to sign yeah to say you've done it and then it gets billed back to your room right yeah and then there's a space for tips okay yeah totally acceptable yeah um i want your views on this because i thought fair play to her everyone's grafting here yeah fair enough if you do it a few days in a row yeah which we did what's synchronized swimming yeah well she was doing it all day so there was like there was one woman just mainly did synchronized swimming was amazing there was about four of them right i suppose it's a good way to do get and doing something in the pool when it's hot.

34:57Yeah, they do swimming lessons as well, but what kid's going to choose swimming lessons? Right, but also as well, it's something they do in the pool that's quite contained rather than them just going mental. Yeah, it's great.

35:06Josh Widdicombe:So they're doing, you know, I mean, they're not doing, they're doing rolls under the water. They're doing, going under the water with legs in the air, all that kind of stuff. And is this a self-catering holiday, half-balled, all-inclusive? What are we dealing with? You can choose. Right, okay. What were you doing? uh we were doing half bored right all inclusive is of no use because i don't drink yes i understand that the only yeah and and i think i'm very reluctant to pay any extra when it's all inclusive when it's half bored you accept that there'll be i don't like leaving an all-inclusive with any bill at the end no exactly come on come on already include the synchronized so we're paying extra for the synchronized swimming but you're like you're on holiday it's you're learning good swimming skills yeah it's great anyway every day yeah the tip at the top which was of the page yeah was too high and exactly the same she suggested it no you have to sign so you sign to say they've done six times say build this back to my room and then there's a gap for tip like it was a bar so what have you put in for the tip well this is what i'm calling a fake entry with a very high tip to guide people what do you mean a fake entry so oh is it like a book that you all sign yeah so it's like columns you know like when you um this is a bad example you know when you sign in back you sign in the stage door of a theater that kind of thing right so it's so say for example there's a couple then their kids are called a bishop s bishop um tip to do synchronize swimming room 402 tip five euros each right Yeah, and then now it's Josh Whittaker's turn to put his kid's name in.

36:50Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, what's a fake tip? What's a top tip?

36:53Josh Widdicombe:So the suggested tip. Yeah. Not a suggested tip. The tip that the first person has put on every day is a 75 % tip. A 75 % tip. Wow. That's no one's tipping 75 % for St. Clarence Women. Well, I found out, Rob, on day three, that Rose had fallen for it. What? Rose will be like, oh, that's what you tip. I'll get out.

37:26Josh Widdicombe:75%. 75%. Who's tipping 75 %? So do you think that was a fake one at the top? Yeah, because it's the same every day. There's no one who starts every day on their own tipping 75%.

37:44Yeah, no, don't follow the form. That's mental. I end up tipping 50 out of guilt. That's insane. I know. You would never tip 50 % for a meal. I know, Rob. Because how much extra service are they giving? They're either teaching synchronised swimming or not. Exactly, Rob. They've got you synchronised tipping. It's good.

38:03Josh Widdicombe:Exactly. It's a good skill, Rob. It's a great scheme. Great scam. Yeah, it's great. And do you know what? I respect it. Fair enough.

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39:16And was it a good holiday in all, in total there?

39:18Josh Widdicombe:Yeah, very good. Kids behave? Yeah, the kids hadn't, do you know what? Flying out. Have I spoken to you since I flew out the day after? I haven't, have I? No, because you went out a day after because you were working on your own. It's bleak as fuck. Flying on your own. You think, oh, here we go. This will be nice. Actually, the night before, on your own in a hotel in Heathrow. Yeah. Do you know what? I think it's a short haul. It's bleak. Long haul. Yeah. There's a moat. But then it's still, you're not, you're missing all the fun. The best part of the hotel is like the arrival, the excitement.

39:53Josh Widdicombe:Because you go and you sit and you're just like, so this is what happened. I got to Heathrow at 4pm on Saturday. I'd booked my hotel to be the one. There's one hotel where you can just walk straight into Terminal 5. I can't remember what it's called. Soffitel. Soffitel. That's the one. Get off the old Lizzie line. Yeah. Check my phone. What time is the flight in the morning? I'll tell you in a minute. Also, you got there early as well. Four o 'clock's a long time to kill. Yeah, because I'm fucking knackered. Because everyone left at 5 a.m. the Saturday morning. And you were up getting everyone out.

40:28Josh Widdicombe:So I've been up since 5 a.m. to get them out of the house. And then you did radio too. Then I did radio too. Then I came home, sorted the house out, packed everything, and then went straight to Heathrow. Right. Get to Heathrow, check the emails. Yeah. The email I've got from booking.com that I haven't checked properly is to say that my hotel booking didn't go through. Oh, my God. And you find out. Yeah. Because you don't think to look at the confirmation email when you get it, do you? No. When it's gone through on the app, you then get an email saying we've refunded it because it didn't work. So it's happened to two people I know, you, my friend, and me.

41:08well what they did but there was theirs was their fault of in orlando we said we're standing in this hotel right this hotel near universal studios and um when you need that a room in this thing anyway they booked it they got like a big family room on booking.com really good price anyway they emailed them saying you need to update your credit card details she kept on ignoring the messages ignoring the messages and then literally the day before they left they had no hotel ended up booking in the same hotel for a room half the size, double the price. Oh, fucking hell. That would destroy me.

41:39Josh Widdicombe:That would destroy me. So mine wasn't as bad. I just had to. There was no rooms available in the Sofitel. Right. I had to book. So you had to walk to a hotel at Heathrow trying to get a room? No, I then found where you could get an Uber from at Heathrow. Because my hotel was three miles from Heathrow. Oh, no. But the point is you want one opposite. Because I'll tell you why the point is. Because I get there. it's rammed with people you're on your own you're knackered yeah everyone's fucking pissed because they're about to go on holiday this isn't exciting for you going into a hotel on your own because you do it until the time exactly it's 5 p.m so i just go up to my room phone down so this is what time after what what time did i have to get up rob i had to get up at quarter past three what time Oh my God.

42:29Josh Widdicombe:Fucking mental. So I had to get a car. And you've got to get a cab as well. I had to get a cab, booked 10 to 4, 25 quid.

42:43Fair enough.

42:44Josh Widdicombe:I wouldn't want to do that for 25 quid.

42:50Josh Widdicombe:So go in and then finally get through. Yeah. This blows my mind. get to the departure lounge. Yeah. Nothing's open. So what time did you get there? Quarter past? I got in at half four. Half four, right. So an hour and a half before your flight. So that's, you know, definitely, you're not too early. Nothing opens till five. So have you checked in and gone through? Yeah. So I'm in a closed departure lounge. Like nothing's open because no one thinks I'll be in here yet. So was anyone else there? Yeah. Other people from my flight. Just walking around aimlessly. I had that come back from Berlin after the Euros.

43:29It's horrible, isn't it? It's so weird. So then what did you do? You were going to sit by your gate?

43:34Josh Widdicombe:No, because I had to wait for curries or whatever it was to open so that I could buy the headphones and go on to fuck up the iPad.

43:50So have you only had six nights here in the end? Or five nights?

43:54Josh Widdicombe:Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. Saturday, Sunday. Oh, I don't know. Yeah, five nights or whatever. Yeah. Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. It was good, actually. It was good to have a break. Because I'm sick of... Oh, it was great. Fuck it. All they do is eat, my kids. I'm constantly making them breakfast, making them lunch. Dishwasher, dishwasher. It's because they're bored. It's because they're bored. They keep asking me, what are we doing? We've done loads of fun stuff. I took them swimming the other day. I went to the cinema. I'm sure I used to just sit and do stuff or meet other friends.

44:20Josh Widdicombe:Maybe I was older because I don't remember what I was like when I was... I'm sure I didn't need as much stuff. I remember going to the creche at Asda in Swansea a lot. Yeah. They don't really do creches at supermarkets anymore, do they? No, I don't think they do. And then my mum would do a big shop while we were in the creche. And he had Sonic on the Mega Drive and I loved it. I just, I do really think that some holidays should be split. Give, make every half term two weeks. Yeah. And add an extra week in October or Easter. And only have four weeks off in the summer or something, or three weeks.

44:51Yeah. Are you? Yeah, I think that's. It's mental. It's too long.

44:55Josh Widdicombe:It's insane. But we're coming to the end of it. I think my kids hate me now as well. They're just so bored of me. Which is a good thing. It's mad. I took my daughter to her friend's house today. Yeah. And then she's now going with her friend so that her friend can buy school shoes. But you're like, why not? It's better than being here. It's too hot. London in the heat. It's fucking shit. Yeah, it is unbearable, I think, when it's hot like that. It's so bad. You hate London. I hate London. There's those to do, though. There is. Have you done any good day trips? Have I done any good day trips? Well, we went away for the week.

45:37Josh Widdicombe:We did the hospital on Monday. What have you got planned this week? We're sorting house stuff out. Yes. Because my son can't go anywhere. Right. Oh, you've got a big festival. She'll love that. Should we go into a big festival? We went to see Freakier Friday at the cinema. Oh, yeah, good. I'll be honest, I'm full of sleep. I also have one. Have you got this? Are your kids into this K-pop vampire thing? Oh, K-pop demon hunters. K-pop demon hunters. Obsessed. They love it. So, yeah, what is it? Don't know because I fall asleep when it's on. It's just gone massive, hasn't it? Huge. Is it just one film?

46:14Not as big as the Grand Prix of Europe that's out in the cinemas this week. I got invited to the premiere, but I couldn't go. My debut as an animated voice actor. if you want to see Enzo the parrot, a.k.a. Rob Beckett. Oh, yeah.

46:25Josh Widdicombe:The part you were born to play. The part I was born to play. But, you know, K-pop demon hunters are obsessed with, they love Freaky Friday, but Freaky Friday. And my seven-year-old went, yeah, I didn't like it that much. It felt like they used all the good ideas in the first one. Oh, wow. Oh, fucking Mark Kermode over there. Shall we do a quick email and then we'll do our thingies? Small business. We don't normally do an email at this stage, but I just fancy one. do an email and then we'll do our our small business do you want to do other parents of wankers yeah yeah please hi rob josh michael i have a couple of stories that you might appreciate for this please don't use my real name uh they're good friends of my husband's i can't be bothered to deal with any fallout do it right in if you've been anonymous on this but people have still worked out who you are do you get much fallout when you mention stuff and people say you mention that about me on here no i've actually got away with it so far um i just shout i'm trying to own a fucking crusty exactly you don't appear on the podcast don't do something weird near me

47:31Josh Widdicombe:both stories are the same couple they've got children slightly older than ours but they're absolutely insufferable at a kid's birthday party they went around telling any guest who'd listen that their eldest wouldn't be getting a tamagotchi she'd ask for for a birthday a few weeks later as they don't allow screen time. Fucking hell. Oh, come on. So the kids are insufferable, the parents? The parents. And this is her husband's friends. So these aren't randoms in school. They don't allow screen time. Tamagotchi. Tamagotchi. They've added, this was a couple of months after their son's Andy's Dinosaur Adventure theme party.

48:04Josh Widdicombe:The implication being that's a TV show. So there we go. Oh, yes. When they spotted my child's advent calendar at a dinner party, they felt they needed to tell us they had avoided elf on the shelf and chocolate as if this was a huge achievement in chair instead oh my god this is mental also a non let's be honest the details are so clear they'll know it's them brilliant instead their child received a small bag of a different spice every day in december and was told a fun fact about each spice a spice fucking what kind of fucking spice little bag of Oh, spice. The drug, spice. Zombie. No screen time for him.

48:47He's zombieing up in the ice street. No, but like, so what would that be like? Paprika. Here's some cardamom. Here's some cardamom. What, and he has a bag? He has a sniff of the spice. What's the use of that? Who cares? Most adults don't put spice in their food. No.

49:02Josh Widdicombe:Anyone else, I'd assume this was a lie. And whilst it's performative, I really think they do this. Keep being sexually unrelatable. Kind regards. Gobble, gobble from a non. do write in if people have got terrible versions of their own advent calendar because yes yes please i had friends at school and they used to have a kind of what would you call it material with 24 pockets and they just move the toy along father christmas along and you're like i don't want material with a pocket if you fill it with your own no no no they're just moving a counter along like they're counting off days in a fucking prison oh also as well for let's have shit advent stories and then we can do this for chris we can do the christmas put it on a christmas special um shit advent calendars and also because basically heading towards september secondary school starting university starting i want to hear because people are going to be listening to this have got kids the kids are going to uni and it's the big fly in the nest moment what funny or stupid things did you do in your first week of uni not like i'm not looking for sort of like in betweeners rudeness but like my friend for example he went shopping it's normally the shopping and the cooking i think where that when you fall down that's when you first have to do my mate i went to my mate's house who bear in mind worked with me at safeways the year before near where we lived in South East London.

50:30We went to Samuni and I was around his flat and he was like, oh, I'm hungry. He went, yeah, I'm hungry. He went, do you want a pizza? I went, yeah, all right. And he went to a cupboard and got the pizza out the cupboard. And I'm like, what? And bear in mind he worked at Safeway. He worked in the chiller section of a shop and the pizza had come out and it obviously had mould, it was warm and it had mould on it that had been in the cupboard. And I was like, you put that in the fridge? He was like, and obviously he knew that you put it in the fridge, but he was like, oh, yeah. We just put it in a cup.

51:00Josh Widdicombe:Do you know what? I had a worse one than that, Rob. Go on. So I got to uni and we did a food shop. Yeah. Like, do a food shop. I think we did a food shop in Devon and we brought that up as well. So it's like, you've got your first amount of food. Shove everything in my room. I've shoved a load of food under my bed, not thinking about it. Two or three weeks in, I think, what's that smell in my room? and there's decomposing potatoes. Didn't they grow again? No, they were like wet, dripping. They were obviously in a bag. They'd sweated it had all gone wrong. It had all gone wrong. And it went into the carpet and it was awful.

51:45Josh Widdicombe:Like dripping mould juice. So the worst, my friend was moving out of his halls, everything had gone empty apart from an onion that I'd been put in a Tupperware. but not put back in a fridge, put in a cupboard. And it was just this like airtight thing. And we were like, should we open it? We opened it. And it was so bad. All of us had to run in the garden and be sick. Oh my God. Oh my God. Sorry if anyone's eating their dinner. Right, let's do small business. Well, I've got a couple of international ones here. I've got one from California and one from Norway. Oh yeah, give me one from California.

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53:20Josh Widdicombe:big fan of one tedder from in bill and ted's excellent adventure maybe have you seen that great great film have a little look hi josh and rob i'm big fan of the show having only relatively recently started listening to keep me entertained whilst carrying out various monotonous tasks renovating my house i'm a stepdad to my girlfriend's four-year-old daughter hearing the parenting trials and tribulations you guys discuss has definitely made parenting feel less daunting and pressurized for me no i'd love it if you give my business a shout out i run a coffee shop in Burke Hampstead, Hertfordshire, called Dower House Coffee, D-O-W-E-R, D-O-W-E-R House Coffee.

53:56Josh Widdicombe:We serve specialty coffee and make our food in-house, much the same as the podcast. This endeavor was born of lockdown, where my brother Aidan, sister-in-law Laura and I hatched the plan to open Dower House Coffee. We've been open almost four years and have made a good name for ourselves in a great town with a lot of hospitality business competition. We've become locally and these are his quotes famous for our various flavors of cookies which we soon hope to retail online and deliver them around the country you're the things that have grown out of lockdown well i know pay us a visit to try them and the rest of our menu thanks keep up the good work rory at dower house underscore coffee lovely stuff big up you guys josh i'll see you next time see you next time bye