S12 EP3: The Wheels Have Come Off

13 Jan 2026 · 56 min · 25 chapters

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Parenting Hell Episode Summary: S12 EP3 - The Wheels Have Come Off

Podcast Overview Title: Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe Description: A humorous exploration of parenting woes and triumphs, featuring tales from Rob and Josh, alongside celebrity parent interviews. Episodes drop every Tuesday and Friday.

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Episode Highlights

Introduction

  • The episode opens with a comical mishap as Rob and Josh struggle with the podcast's intro and the logistics of recording.

Josh's Cover Shoot for Runner's World

  • Main Topic: Josh discusses his upcoming cover shoot for *Runner's World*, revealing:
  • Pressure to look fit for the magazine.
  • His motivation to get in shape and preparation for the shoot.
  • His experience with running and a Couch to 5K program led by Steve Cram, highlighting:
  • Techniques and concerns about running, including breath control.
  • A humorous exchange about their running experiences and attire.

Discussion on Parenting and Family Life

  • School Routine: They touch upon their children's return to school, sharing details about their excitement and adjustments.
  • Josh's Parenting Style:
  • Describes his lack of authority and tendency to give in to his children’s requests.
  • Uses humor to illustrate his struggles with bedtime routines and managing his children's expectations.

Electric Cars and Daily Challenges

  • Electric Car Debate: Josh contemplates the practicality of getting an electric car, spurred by conversations with friends and Rob's advice.
  • Rob's Experience:
  • Shares his insights on the pros and cons of electric vehicles based on his family's needs and lifestyle.

Celebrity Interactions

  • Rob recounts an awkward interaction with singer Cat Burns via Instagram, expressing his embarrassment over a mis-sent message.

New Year Resolutions and Goals

  • Both hosts share their resolutions, with Josh aiming to get fit while Rob tries to manage chaos in his home life.
  • They discuss the concept of "Quitter's Day," the day when most people abandon their New Year's resolutions.

Parenting Challenges

  • Josh talks about managing questions from his kids regarding Santa Claus, emphasizing the difficulty of keeping the magic alive.
  • Rob and Josh explore their parenting catchphrases, with Rob acknowledging his frequent use of "You're starting to be a little bit naughty now" to diffuse situations.

Random Conversations

  • The duo share light-hearted banter about their children’s new toys, school supplies, and parenting mishaps.

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Key Takeaways

  • Struggles of Parenting: Both hosts relay relatable anecdotes about the challenges of maintaining authority and routines with their kids.
  • Fitness and Preparation: Josh's comedic approach to preparing for a fitness magazine cover highlights the pressures of societal expectations and personal fitness journeys.
  • Awkward Interactions: Rob's humorous yet embarrassing celebrity encounter emphasizes the unpredictability of social media.
  • Reality of Family Life: The episode underscores that parenting is often chaotic, filled with humor, and fraught with decisions, whether regarding fitness or car purchases.

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Correspondence Section

  • The hosts share shout-outs for small businesses, including a new mum singing group and a family-run mushroom business, emphasizing community and support among parents.

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Closing Thoughts The episode maintains a light-hearted tone, blending discussions on fitness, parenting, and the comedic aspects of everyday life, providing both entertainment and relatable content for listeners navigating similar challenges.

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Discussing Joel Domit's Influence

0:45 to 2:24

The hosts talk about Joel Domit and his impact on the show.

“Okay A lot of people have been saying I'm one of them Which one?”

The Pressure of a Magazine Shoot

2:24 to 3:38

Josh shares his anxiety about preparing for a magazine cover shoot.

“They are, Rob, but they're more excited about your list of things.”

Running and Fitness Journey

3:38 to 6:05

Josh discusses his new fitness routine and the Couch to 5K program.

“I take my watch off to run, not to sleep.”

Running Techniques and Advice

6:05 to 7:54

The hosts exchange thoughts on running techniques and advice from experts.

“So she said, do you want to do Runner's World?”

The Reality of Being in Runner's World

7:54 to 9:50

Josh reflects on being featured in Runner's World magazine and his expectations.

“And then a week later, she emails and she goes, so is mid-January which day is good for the front cover photo shoot?”

Electric Cars and Personal Choices

9:50 to 11:27

Discussion on the pros and cons of electric cars based on personal experiences.

“They're bone conductors so that you can hear the outside so you don't get run over.”

Celebrity Encounters and Social Media

11:27 to 13:26

Josh shares a humorous mishap with musician Cat Burns on social media.

“But I think if it's your main car, you don't want to have an electric because it can stop you doing things.”

Miscommunication with Kat Burns

14:00 to 15:38

Rob shares an embarrassing story about trying to contact Kat Burns.

“No, she doesn't follow me and still doesn't follow me.”

TikTok Messaging Mishaps

17:11 to 18:26

Josh talks about accidentally sending strange messages on TikTok.

“I keep sending weird messages to people on TikTok.”

Christmas Questions from Kids

18:26 to 20:04

Rob discusses the challenging questions his kids have about Santa.

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Weakness in Parenting Decisions

20:04 to 22:30

Rob reflects on being too lenient with his children and their requests.

“My kids say that I've got a catchphrase.”

Struggles with Bedtime Routine

22:30 to 24:24

Rob and Josh share their chaotic bedtime routines and challenges.

“I've decided to come up with a new way of doing it, but I think it's too complicated.”

Life with Kids and Pets

24:24 to 28:00

Discussion on managing family life with children and pets.

“Well, I'm going to tell you what they are.”

Kittens and Family Life

28:00 to 29:12

A humorous discussion about kittens entering the household and family activities.

School Supplies and Beatles Facts

29:12 to 30:28

The hosts joke about school supplies while revealing an interesting Beatles fact.

“I didn't know about the sneaky swear word in Hey Jude.”

Reflections on Positivity and Parenting

30:28 to 32:47

A candid conversation about the challenges of parenting and managing life’s changes.

“While you're on Spotify, why not watch us in video?”

Balancing Work and Life

32:47 to 35:09

The hosts discuss the balance between their podcasting work and other commitments.

“So my approach to running, and this is what I'm going to say to Runner's World, Rob.”

Ski Trip Plans and Family Dynamics

35:09 to 37:51

A back-and-forth about the logistics and challenges of skiing with kids.

“That used to be my hobby, but now it's a bloody job, isn't it?”

Skiing Lessons and City Debates

37:51 to 42:00

Discussion on arranging ski lessons for kids and a humorous city debate.

“break when so it's in the middle of the last leg series so i'm gonna have to do a couple of zoom calls on the wednesday and thursday as well get some meta glasses flying back on the friday morning to do the last leg.”

Personal Updates and Challenges

42:11 to 42:44

Rob and Josh share personal updates including fitness goals and family trips.

“What would you be looking forward to most as a listener?”

Tour Preparation and New Material

42:44 to 44:25

Discussion on tour preparations and the challenge of trying new material.

“I was at 98 about 18 months ago when I really tried exercising.”

Restless Leg Syndrome and Health Talk

44:25 to 46:08

Rob talks about his restless leg syndrome and the impact of lifestyle changes.

“yeah I'm fine okay yeah have you had a rest?”

Finding Local Gigs

46:08 to 46:45

Josh discusses the search for local gigs to test new comedy material.

“I don't want to read a book in a hotel room.”

Reminiscing About Old Venues

46:45 to 48:25

Rob and Josh reflect on past gigs and their connections to various cities.

“I've got a new bit about little toenails that I want to throw out.”

Listener Correspondence and Small Business Shoutouts

48:25 to 51:02

Hosts read listener messages and shout out small businesses.

“Sorry, so you asked Michael for the address of the new studio for the interview ones.”
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0:03Hello, you're listening to Parenting Hell with... Oh, fuck. I fucked it up. You make it look easier than it is. You know what, Rob? You know what? It's difficult, isn't it? Playing a phone into a microphone. Why don't you say the intro and I press the button this time? Because it's been said direct. It's impossible to do both. Hello and welcome to Parenting Hell with... Can you say Rob Beckett? Rob Beckett. Can you say Josh Widdicombe? I've got a speakerphone.

0:35there we go that's wild sent in by joel domit very iconic voice isn't he because he's basically messaged me direct and got on what's what's that nepotism of friends because it's not nepotism because he's not my son jobs for the boys isn't it what's that called bullendom club what's that sort of where it's like it's not what you know it's who you know that kind of i don't know what the phrase is but there's a word for it anyway that's him and his son but it's actually quite a good one it is we did come we did come I haven't seen Joel's son but he must be one good looking baby really weird sorry really weird really yeah really I tell you what I saw him a masked singer the other day Joel he is so perfect for that show yeah so full of energy and also like really funny but also he's out he'll wear mental outfits were you watching it were you watching it for a reason Rob what masked singer Just You were very busy last year, weren't you?

1:32Yeah, just have a little look Were you? Okay A lot of people have been saying I'm one of them Which one? Don't know, I don't think it's been on yet But apparently I got people in TV were asking me if I was doing Masked Singer Okay And I can't possibly say I've told them I'll do it But as long as I only have to do one song and I get guests immediately and I can go home I got asked whether I would be interested in doing it Not by them, by someone And I said, I refuse to do a TV show where I'm not on screen for 90 % of it. Oh. You think it didn't stop me doing all those panel shows? Hey, come on, Rob.

2:10When you're just laughing. I'm not spending my whole time dressed up as a fucking koala. Why haven't you got a face like yours? Why deprive the world, eh? Exactly, Rob. No, it's all about screen time, Rob. How are you? How are the kids back to school? All excited? They are, Rob, but they're more excited about your list of things. I haven't said, last week I said I've got, so I've basically, Rob, got 10 days to look ready for the cover of a magazine shoot. Yeah, what magazine shoot are you doing? A little magazine, Rob. Yeah. Called Runner's World. Runner's World? Oh, boy. You have to look good for that.

2:55yeah i'm worried it's it's annoying that it's come so soon after christmas yeah because i'm gonna go i'm gonna gym and run after this because most covers if you're on the front cover of something it's like doesn't don't don't put as much pressure on your body you know you are who you are you're a dad in his 40s you've got kids but if you're doing one specifically for a fitness based magazine it's not ideal but running isn't easy i'm not doing what you know that ben shepherd men's health. Are you topless? No, I'm not top. Why would I be topless on Runners World magazine? Are you bottomless? So what you wear, you're going to get your legs out.

3:29Yeah, I'm happy with my legs. You're going to be wearing a running vest. No, I don't wear a running vest. Are you wearing what you wear to run for the cover? Yeah, I think so, probably. And what you're wearing? A t-shirt and shorts. Socks and trainers. I don't wear my watch. I take my watch off to run, not to sleep. Do you take your watch off to run? Yeah. Probably the only time you fucking need it.

3:543am asleep get the old watch on just in case for lap times so we touched on it last week like i because i wanted to get sort of gary barlow fit for 40 didn't happen um but i'm on it now Donald 45 isn't it that's your name so i started running so i always hated running and i've i've run 5ks before on treadmills and stuff but i don't like running outside i get very self-conscious yeah however um i've started doing couch to 5k with steve cram sorry for what is it 1981 steve cram well you get a selection i've got a podcast for you if that's the kind of reference you like no well you get a select it's a bbc pop app where you get selection of different people so one was ella toon the footballer but he's got a very calming voice i know him from watching the athletics and he was in the olympics um and i I thought, why not be told how to run by an actual runner?

4:48I worry about my running technique. Right. I can't breathe properly when I run. And everyone says it's all about the breath. I can't. I don't know when to breathe in. I don't know when to breathe out. About the breath. I hadn't even been told it's about the breath. No one had told me it's about the breath. I was told you've got to have a straight back and breathe properly. And that'll help. You can't run with a straight back. Who are you, Michael Johnson? Like, he was the only person who's ever run with a straight back. Well, that's what I thought. I was told you have to run with a straight back.

5:18Or maybe. Someone on TikTok told me. You sure you can just say be straight back? Am I right? How much running are you doing to be in Runner's World? Ah, when do I take off the spikes? That's more the question, Rob. Your carpet's fucked. Could I be honest, right? Please. Amanda, my beloved PR, a wonderful woman, she said to me, do you want to do Runner's World magazine? for promo. Sorry, can I stop? I love this. This is my crack cocaine of talking to other comedians and people that have to do PR. So right, come on. She said, do you want to do Runner's World? I said, yeah, why not? I'll do Runner's World.

5:59How much they pay in 5K? Oh, here we go. There we go. For the record, you never get paid. You don't get paid. It's just a running joke. It's just a running joke. Yeah, yeah. So she said, do you want to do Runner's World? I said, yeah you don't need to ask me twice that's a bit you know that's a nice little interview i go running fine so you have to run with them and they interview while you're running no no no i'm interviewed at the photo shoot it's also for the runners world podcast um because it's 21st century right so it's used for both anyway i just thought oh it'll be one of those nice little articles in runners world about a dad who's juggling dad life work life running yeah it'll be like it'll probably be that back page one or it'll be people that buy runners well don't give a fuck about a part-time runner they want to know about to get their times down and carb loading no but rob anyway what's your pb what's my pb is one of your questions yeah well i don't know i haven't done it yet well it will be yeah yeah of course what is your pb um about 7k about what about what speed oh i don't know my speeds i don't i don't i don't cover them oh i'm you must know oh you got your watch off no idea exactly rob i'm it's just me and my music so you don't know how fast you've run it you can run a 5k well maybe i'll go and check after this no but i for someone that's about to be i do it i do it i can do it i do it on 10 on the running machine so that is 5ks that's half an hour half an hour okay so you on the treadmill it's 10 kilometers an hour yeah definitely kilometers or miles kilometers an hour i'm not right so you're doing half an hour yeah cool that's all right isn't it?

7:38Yes, good. No, I don't know. I mean, I think that's fine. I don't know. I'm not a runner. Does Steve Cram make you worry about as much as you're making me worry? No, no, no, not at all. I'm not trying to make you worry. Steve Cram's fully aware that I'm going from couch to K, where you're going from K to interview about running. Well, this is what happened, Rob. You're the front cover of Run as well. Well, this is what happened, Rob. I agreed. Amanda said, do you want to do this? I said, yes, well, it'll be fun. And then a week later, she emails and she goes, so is mid-January which day is good for the front cover photo shoot?

8:10And I was like, what? I had no idea. Right. I'm going to see what else has done the front page of Runner's World. Well, I can tell you who's done it. Your friend of mine, Romesh. Romesh. Fucking hell. He will get us anywhere. Isn't he? But at least he had a fucking marathon. Fucking true. He did do the marathon twice. Yeah. Yeah, that is fair. I wouldn't call you a runner. wow rob runners world would like to disagree fair enough do you think it'll sell many tickets i don't know i feel like the front page of runners one there's no offense to runners world whatsoever okay is for people that are really into running yeah and it's like oh they love the magazine it's a passion project this you you just you are can i say this about you i think it's great you've got a passion and energy and a verve for 2026 that's intoxicating exactly right you're getting me i'm now thinking i want to do runners world now as well yeah i think you do you know what i'm sure they'd have you they'll take any old shit it turns out to be fair i'm still walking in between runs with steve cram on couch exactly yeah yeah well you could do it with steve cram you could do a double photo shoot the man that got me from the couch to the k rob beckett finally meet Steve Cram face to face.

9:31No, but I want him running alongside me. Oh, yeah. Whisper in my ear. Yeah. I've got some good headphones for running. Oh, this is such a middle-aged sad podcast.

9:45Never mentioned our kids. We're still boring. We've got some headphones that aren't in the ears. They're bone conductors so that you can hear the outside so you don't get run over. Oh, that's good. That's good. That's what I've got. Okay. So are they hot on the ears? Because I feel tired if my ears get hot. What is wrong with you? You're like a basset hound. How hot are your ears? Why can't you have anything on your ears, Josh? It just makes me tired. They're not on your ears. They're above your ears. They're not in the ear. What do you mean a bone conductor? What does that mean? I don't know, but they're not in my ears.

10:16I've got bones in my ear. I can't. Look, Josh, I'll tear this once and tell you again. They're on my ears, not in my ears. They're near my ears. What are they called? Shox. S-H-O-K-Z. I've paid for this. It's not an advert. yeah oh rob talking of that shokz shokz phones i'll tell you what they are yeah maybe i'll get some because also once you put in your ears if you get sweaty then they stop sometimes would you wear them if you weren't running you could it's quite good for like a dog walk or something if you still need to be hearing what's going on do you wear the ones that have got the the thing behind your head so they're like Like a necklace, right?

10:52Yeah. Yeah. They're good. Okay. Next question, Rob. I've been, because we're boring middle-aged men. Yeah. Both in our 40s. Both in our 40s now. We're on the downward spiral. I'm thinking of getting an electric car. And you know this because I've texted you for advice. And the problem is, Rob, your advice has been different to most other people's advice. So I've got to go against everyone or I've got to go against you. who are the other people can you name them people with electric cars people that already have them and they're in deep they're in deep yeah yeah so you've been talking you've been asked to buy a timeshare in spain you've gone to people that were also bullying into buying the timeshare my this is my advice on electric cars are it's a bit of a nightmare if your job takes you all over the country like i never drive fair enough but this is what i'm saying for me yeah we've got an electric little electric car that's a run around to do the school run of the shops because the range isn't that far and then also if you get caught short it's a ball lake trying to charge it for long journeys so for my tour i've got i've leased a bigger petrol car but also i would get hybrid if that was an option because then i always know that i can just put some petrol in the car and get there whatever's going on rather than worrying about cables accounts if there's one on the way and having kids in the car but i i don't if i'm gonna buy a new car i want to sell our car we don't need two cars only one of us only one of you can drive yeah yeah well exactly but then do what you want to do go pick oh rob but you said if you what do i know about life you know you've got your new kitchen installed in hackney because you're going to stay there for 10 years i don't know what to do rob i'm lost who are the other people can you say their names yeah my friend Claire she's got an electric um electric Volvo okay well if you're only going to stay local get one but for me sometimes I drive myself to gigs when I'm doing new material or I've got a corporate that's nearby I do do that well you just like for example if you just want to get down to you know um if you're going to Bournemouth or Brighton to do a gig and it's a little hour and a half drive there and back and you don't want to do the train and if you're gonna you will eventually you want to be driving to and from London at some point, you're not always going to get to train with the kids.

13:11I don't know about that. I don't know about that. Oh, wrong. But I think if it's your main car, you don't want to have an electric because it can stop you doing things. Let's see how it plays out. Decide who you go for, me or Claire. It's up to you. Oh, God. We've all got to make decisions, haven't we? I don't like it. Oh, Cat Burns. I embarrassed myself with Cat Burns. Did you? From the traitors? My kids love Cat Burns now. I listen to her music all the time. Yeah. Where did you see her? No, I did it on the internet. Oh, no. So I went to message her on Instagram because it allowed me to message her.

13:48Was she following you? I just thought Kat Burns on now in capitals because that's what my kids keep shouting. So I wrote that. Does she follow you? I thought she did. I don't think she does. Let's have a look. But, you know, she wasn't at the time. No, she doesn't follow me and still doesn't follow me. So she's not keen. Anyway, so I went to write. I just want cat burns on all the time. And then was going to write, uh, my kids love you and keep shouting at me. Oh, I know what you've done here. I know what you've done here. Kids love you. I wanted to say, just put cat burns on now. Can I just, can I just guess what's happened?

14:20Yeah, go on. You can only send one message to a blue ticked person that doesn't follow you. And then I couldn't follow it up. So I've texted her. I just want cat burns on exclamation mark in capitals. Cause then I was going to write, my kids keep shouting this especially you know and stuff like that no oh no so then absolutely nothing back then she did a story which allowed me to reply oh no embarrassing oh mortifying Kat I tried to send you a DM but I sent it before I finished writing so I look mental this is sad this is sad my kids love you and keep shouting at me just put Kat Burns on we're now picking music for the car Oh my gosh, this is embarrassing.

15:04Then she did reply, Oh, Rob, that makes me so happy. Ha ha. How old are they? I've said eight and ten. Radio silence. Fair enough. Fair enough. She did come back to me, but I put that in my list because she hadn't for two days. Oh, cat burns. Did you ever find out if she'd seen the original message? Yeah, she must have. Oh yeah, she would have because when she saw the second one. Yeah, but Traitors is so big. She must be absolutely inundated. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

15:38This episode, Josh, is brought to you by my friend and yours, the Apple Watch. Let's have a look. I've actually got one on. There you go. It's actually mine, that. He loves the product. He loves the product so good he bought it himself. What? The little wheel. Feels like I'm a DJ mixing. Oh, very nice. Now, Josh, have you set yourself any new resolutions? Yes, I have. Yes, I'm trying to get trim again. Like? Trim. Yeah, like when I did Strictly. Do you remember how trim I was then? Your Strictly body When you did Strictly for a week and a half For the Christmas special Yeah exactly When I was trim for a week and a half Well did you know The thing is about New Year's resolutions Josh Have you heard about Quitter's Day?

16:12No tell me about Quitter's Day Well basically Quitter's Day is The second Friday in January Yeah That's when most people give up Oh that's a bit sad isn't it It is sad isn't it So what can we do about it? Apple Watch Go on Tell me It's a little bad I'm on a fitness journey Yeah By the time I'm 40 I want a six pack You're already 40 Yeah I know So I've got a year to go So I've got time. Yeah, yeah, fine. This little fella's going to get me there. Okay, tell me how. Activity rings. Oh, yeah, what's that mean? Tells me what I'm doing. Walking. I played father-son football the other day. I clicked outdoor football.

16:39They told me how many calories I burnt, how much running I was doing. Oh, that's nice. It didn't tell me how good my goals were, but, you know, it's a different kind of tech. It's got a little trainer. I went for a run. He goes, well done. You've done the kilometre. Oh, that's nice. Keep going. This is your beat. You need that, don't you? Yeah, I need it. Because it gets lonely. Very lonely on the road. Very lonely, pounding the pavements. Pounding the pavements, yeah. That is a mind-blowing amount of helpful features. It means you have no excuse not to be fit by the end of 40. Quit quitting of Apple Watch, Josh.

17:10Exactly. Search Apple Watch Series 11 to find out more.

17:16Other things on my list. Oh, another boomer. I feel like a boomer. I keep sending weird messages to people on TikTok. When I'm on TikTok, sometimes I'm like... Whoa, whoa, whoa. Is this a preemptive strike on a new story that's coming out? No, but it's like, no, it's just going to random people. And some people I know, some people I don't know. As I'm swiping up, sometimes it just goes, message sent to. And it's always a completely different person. And I don't know how I've sent it. And I just, I'm like a man on a phone. Oh, you're old. I'm getting old. Do you know what you've sent them? Oh, God.

17:46Do they ever reply? Some people are going, was this for me? Why have you sent that? Oh, my God. I sent a video about someone complaining that crap game somewhere. Oh, it's at Milton Keynes Stadium that's half empty. And someone going, oh, it's not a charity game. I don't even like the video. I was swiping away from it. I'm just sending this to my mate Luke for no reason whatsoever. I sent a video to a woman I don't know. And it's a video of a man saying, nobody knows how to go from this to this. And it's a few photos of him as like a road man holding loads of cash. so he's obviously some sort of criminal and then it's a scan of a baby bloody and you just send that to someone you don't know yeah it says nobody knows how hard it is to go from this to this being one of the hardest battles staying on track for our son but it'll all be worth it when he's here and i've sent it to a woman i don't even know and she's just gone slightly confused by this one so i've ignored that it's literally happening every other it's like non-stop i sent lloyd griffith a video which is you know him yeah anyone want a christmas popcorn bucket there's loads of leftover Christmas popcorn buckets at Disney that they're trying to sell cheap Lloyd don't care about that, I don't even care about that Your algorithms are giving you some weird shit Oh yeah mate, I send I've done this twice now to my nephew one was a rat running across the Everton football pitch he don't even like football and the other one was Megan, you know Harry and Megan her laughing catwalk model and someone's saying that's a bit out of order again my nephew's 26 didn't couldn't give a shit and i just i said sorry i've done that twice now in a row went you're worse than granddad so what are you doing is it your swipe it's the way i'm swiping i think also my mom's been reposting stuff on instagram right and i don't think she knows she's doing it um and it's like ai videos that are obviously fake but she thinks they're real no oh the list other things on the list so the question again i know this is second second week of january um my um kids keep asking questions about santa and it's very very difficult to oh yeah yeah but like i'm getting questioned like forensically like i'm in an itv then the oldest one does i think and the youngest one's very suspicious younger but it's what's your plan for next year Well It's difficult Because you just sort of I just sort of go Yeah well I think You know He's coming And I believe But then What's the alternative If I just go Yeah he's Fucking fake Alright Yeah You win Well done Congratulations So I don't know What the thing is to do Don't clip that bit up Oh the other Grand effort I've got So So I've got a catchphrase apparently.

20:48My kids say that I've got a catchphrase. Let us know if you've got any catchphrases at parents. If they're messing about or not listening or their behaviour is not great, I say. But it's not really bad, but it's like veering that way. I go, girls, you're starting to be a little bit naughty now. Yeah. And they just crack up now because apparently I say that all the time. Does that defuse the situation? It does now a bit when they know that I'm not keen on what's going on. Yes. It creates an awareness. And also it's quite funny because they laugh. Yeah, I do. I'm starting to get annoyed. That's similar.

21:23You say I'm starting to get annoyed now. I'm starting to get annoyed with this. Okay. Because my daughter got a two-wheel scooter. That's what she wanted for Christmas. She keeps going up and down the hallway. And it's for outside, but it's very difficult if you've bought someone a two-wheel scooter in the middle of fucking frosty January. It's the absolute death trap out there at the moment. Yeah, to say, could you go out in the garden and scoot in sub-zero temperatures? On ice. On ice, yeah. But I'll say, can you not scoot? She says, but it's too tempting. Oh, indoors. Yeah, indoors. And to be honest, I am weak.

22:05I am weak. I've realised that. She said to Rose, she said, we always ask Daddy because your answers aren't as helpful for children which hang on she's your daughter says this yeah she said to rose when when she was like what when they're asking if they can do something she said yeah we we always ask daddy because if we ask you it's not as helpful for children it's not as helpful for children such a aggy way like passive aggressive yeah so what you're too weak i'm too weak yeah when was the last time you said no um yeah that's an interesting question isn't it like we're stopping well i say it a lot i've well then pushed it away from you i'm taking the scooter away no we're stopping that now no i do do that i do do that turn the telly off now yeah i do do that i get annoyed at bedtime because i'm getting annoyed now is that what you say you shout i'm getting annoyed at you I think stringed out.

23:03No, no. It's string out bedtime. I've decided to come up with a new way of doing it, but I think it's too complicated. What? Your new bedtime routine? My new bedtime punishment. Where is everyone sleeping at the moment? Yeah, yeah. We won't go into that other room. Still the same. All four of them in your room? Yeah. All four of you in that room? Yeah. And Beryl? Well, in the morning, Beryl comes in because she wants feeding. And she'll meow over my head. Need some morning piss. Yeah, need some morning piss straight in my mouth. What time does she... Oh, he's reassured. He can get on with his day now.

23:36Yeah, I know. She's part of the family. So all four of them... She's my water anyway. She's drunk. Where's everyone lying in the room? So who's in the big bed? Rose and my son at the moment. And where are you? On the floor. Piss of covered food's on. On a mattress with my daughter. And you'll share the mattress if I heard that on the floor? No, there's two mattresses. So you've got a mattress each on the floor. Big fucking room. Good job you've moved. Yeah, exactly. And then do they start in the bedroom? Yeah, we've got it. Rob, we've lost. The wheels have come off it. So everyone's going to bed in your bedroom.

24:12Yeah. Right. And then wheels have come off. Right. So no, you're not even putting them into bed, their own bedroom, and they're coming in the night. No, we've given up. Right. So talk us through your bedtime at the moment then. Well, I'm going to tell you what they are. Because they've been going to bed so late during the Christmas holidays. It's mad. i i agree with that especially when we was on holiday it was just basically go for dinner come back let's all go to bed they can have their kindles they all go to bed at the same time yeah we got the kids got kindles for christmas and their birthdays and they're amazing the color kindle they can they could read all their books or if they're especially if they've got like you know like um dire wimpy kid or lottie brooks yeah it's a bit nicer for them to look at than just black and white anyway yes nice um so um yeah so they're just going to bed so what's your plan i tell you why it is it's a combination weakness of weakness on my part is it more your part than rose is rose is oh rose all right she's in the bed so you've been on a mattress for the last two weeks no last three months fuck you've never slept in your new house in the bed uh yeah we've got a couple of weeks under our belt but then i kept going on tour and when i'd go on tour it would kind of reset all the routine changes well also it was much easier for Rose to put them both to bed in the same room yeah her room

25:40do they go to bed at the same time then? if it's not Christmas yeah they both go to bed so we should be taking them up at half 7 for 8 o 'clock as if that ever fucking happens

25:53Rose now has got into a thing where she likes to go to bed when they do it about half half nine over christmas or 10 over christmas they were knackered on their first day back at school but there's no way around it really yeah so then this is my theory because my problem is i don't mind them going to bed so they should be going to bed at half seven getting into bed at eight that's my theory yeah i'm now implementing

26:21a fine situation. Fine? Like a football club? So they go up at half seven. Yeah. Every minute after eight that they get into bed is a minute earlier they go up the next day. But I think it's too complicated. Yeah. Even saying that to you, it took you a while to understand what you were saying. Have you told this to them yet? Yeah, they didn't really understand what they were saying. I'd surely start with, are they going to go to? You need to go in your own bedroom. Yeah. Problem is I'm about to go back out on tour. So the issue here is we, and I've got, we've got the same lifestyle you guys have got.

27:01There is no routine. No. Apart from their school, everything else is an absolute mess. Shambles. Yeah. Every single night's different. It's always a different person taking them to school or picking them up. sometimes it's me every day for a week sometimes i don't do it for two weeks and then other but you know so and there's always different things going on at weekends and stuff so it's hard for them to get into that routine but the is the plan to then put them into bed their own beds yes but then the problem is if they're going to come in anyway at least if they are in bed at half nine in your bed a bit of a crimp in it also we're gonna we're having the house redone something for you to look fucking hell you are glutton for punishment you aren't you my life is punishment rob it feels like life is pain life is life is dukkah but you so that's going to push them back into our room so basically we're looking at about i feel like we did this last year autumn 2026 for when i get my bed back why don't you just sleep in one of their rooms because i like to be surrounded by my family in the same way i like to be around the stinky kittens i just like fucking hell that was a loud gulp something the stinky kittens got me that's not going to drive you to the video content see what he was drinking then nothing will the stinky kittens they sound like a punk band so where the kittens are going to go when are they just in that room they're just they stand well they'll be they'll be they're coming out this week oh so at the moment they're in their own room where beryl's got the running they're in the adjustment room they're in a kind of um like a reassuring quarantine room and then they're going to be introduced to the house and then they're going to be introduced to the garden right yeah i don't house cat people that have house cats i think it's quite strange well let's see it trust your cat i'd happily just have a room cat my dream now is when i'm older you don't like them going outside i'm just going to maybe retire to a one room house with 12 cats and it's going to stink and i'm just going to lie there and go this is heaven right so what's the what's happening tonight when they come back from school is this the first night of it have you got the new system we're going into town to this is a phrase i've never heard my daughter needs to refresh her pencil case refresh yeah new term i'm refreshing my pencil case she said that yeah okay i like it so we're going to go to smiggle to refresh her pencil case and then we're going to go to shoe which is next door because my son's grown out of his shoes after one term which is annoying

29:39but you know that's life that is life that is life life

29:49i didn't talk about this um did you know that there's i've got a beatles fact and i don't know if you know you probably will know i can't believe do you know about the drummer no do Do you know about the sneaky swear word in Hey Jude? I didn't know about the sneaky swear word in Hey Jude. You don't? I wouldn't expect more of Paul McCartney than that. You did know about it? I didn't know. You did know about it? Tell you what, Rob. This is amazing. I can't believe. If you like pop culture facts, Rob, I've got a podcast for you. So if you go to get your phone up now. Yeah. Go to Hey Jude. On Spotify?

30:24Wherever. Love them. Hey Jude. basically at 2.58 in that song. While you're on Spotify, why not watch us in video? You can see my, I'm going to wear a different football shirt each week. Yeah. Oh, oh my God. Don't have to pay him. Get rid of it. One most expensive song of all. I'm wearing my three bean salad podcast merchandise, which is a picture of Mike Wozniak's dog drawn by Henry Packer. So you're promoting another podcast? Well, I'm not. I'm just, you know, I bought this for 35 quid and I like it. Maybe in the comments people can guess what the shirt is. Oh, yes, please. It's at Italy 1992.

31:07I think six. 1996. I'm not sure. They went out of the Euros in the group stage then. Right. Michael, don't include this because it'll be too expensive for us. What is it? $256? $256, yeah, basically. Before you do it, Paul McCartney, because the listeners can do it at home. Paul McCartney plays a note wrong and goes, fucking hell. And it really made John Lennon laugh. So he left it in because it made him laugh. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That is included. Yeah. It's good, isn't it? Bit much for my tastes. Are you impressed? I gave you a Beatles. That is great. I didn't know that. That is fascinating. Oh, I love those guys.

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31:45Do you know when they were writing Hey Jude, Paul McCartney said, I don't really like this lyric. The movement you need is in your shoulder. John Lennon said that's the best bit and I still don't know what it means really. What song is that? It's in Hey Jude How's it go? The best movement you need is in your shoulder or however it goes I don't know I don't sing very often when it's not Christmas but yeah Is that because they wave their arms like that? I don't understand I enjoyed that Beatles fact more of them if you've got any. Now Josh how's your this is middle of January year what are we doing differently about this year what what's your life coming through it with a real positivity parenting wise um i just want to soak up every moment because time slips through your fingers oh so this is what happens every i come in negative you come in positive you'll slowly drain well i'm so positive about my life at the moment that i feel sad about it being over i feel like i don't know if you are actually positive or you're putting on a front because there's loads going on no there's not loads going on there is a lot going on no you're getting your house renovated you've not slept in your own bed for three months and you've you've got a new another job you've started which is the new podcast this is the thing right a podcast is less work than a tv job so it looks like yeah you've got lots on but the truth is I'd much rather do this where I'm my own boss and have another podcast Michael it's sort of three way thing yeah you're right three ways but three ways I'd much rather do another podcast and do that and this and not have to go up to London and do it all from home and do it when I can do it I think the future is podcasting but if you've got any TV work I am around or if not I'll do photo shoots for Runner's World They have to hardly photo shoots for Runner's World.

33:52I really am a jack of all trades. Where are they doing the photo shoot? In a studio. Where? In Exeter. They're coming to work. Oh, that's nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Runner's World, don't they? They like to move. They like to travel. So my approach to running, and this is what I'm going to say to Runner's World, Rob. Tell me whether this is the wrong thing to say. Cullen. Is that I had a brief period. I love running because it's... you don't love running no one loves it no i do since you don't do you love it yeah since i stopped drinking yeah i've uh the thudding adrenaline and the music in my ears has replaced something right and i love running and i'm sad when my runs are over right i'm further than you've only done seven but i've only got so much time right but i was like oh maybe i should do a marathon and And then I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

34:46Stop trying to make running into a thing that is your release. Stop it being a challenge. Make it something you love become work. So how is your pop culture podcast? Because I've already done that with comedy, yeah. And your pop culture podcast. Yeah, and parenting. And, of course, ripping the news to shreds on Channel 4 every Friday night. That bloody well. That used to be my hobby, but now it's a bloody job, isn't it? I love, you know me, Rob. Can't get enough of the news. Have you got last leg? Is that going on? Is that stopped now? End of the month. So you finish in January? No, no, no, no.

35:25Start at the beginning of February, end of January. Oh, you go again. Bloody hell, it's on all the time, isn't it? No. Well, this is the thing, Rob. We do two series a year. But because they do a gap in between, it's like they haven't, the gap in between is in the middle of the year. but that does mean that it goes on to the next year so it's like two series yeah two series in a row basically and then how long do you do it for from feb 10 weeks i think right eight weeks i don't know okay and when are you going skiing as well because i want to talk more about the skiing in february yeah i'm a bit nervous about that right because rose can ski who do you think's got the best job here rose can ski so she's gonna go skiing in the mornings and I'm going to take the two kids to our three-way lesson.

36:14My instinct would be to let Rose go for a ski and you have a private lesson on your own because you're not going to be able to concentrate because you're going to be worried about the kids, but you don't even know what you're doing yet. No. I'd argue the best person to go... I imagine I'll pick it up as a natural. Yeah, probably, knowing you. But wouldn't it be better for the kids to go into like a kids' club lesson with some other kids? Well, apparently that's not what's happening. Right. Or wouldn't it be better for Rose to go with the kids because she could already ski, then you could go off with your own lessons?

36:48No, she doesn't need the lesson. She doesn't need the lesson. No, no, no, not for her to get the lesson, but for her to be someone that can help the kids. Yeah, well, we haven't really. I suppose the teacher's going to help. I don't really know, Rob. I'll be honest, I haven't engaged. I think it'd be better to send the kids to a kid's ski, because I think kids respond better to a teacher when the parents aren't there. So I think roads go skiing, the kids go for a lesson with a really fun instructor, and then you go off. No, but I think it's hard enough to learn to ski anyway, but the worry about watching your kids learn while you're learning is quite a stressful situation.

37:29Yes. Where if you're getting more confident on your own... This is the thing I wonder about skiing. Is it really a holiday? No. well it is for people without children that can ski yeah the rose is gonna have a fucking great week yeah is it a holiday that's the big question you know is it going to be a relaxing half-term break when so it's in the middle of the last leg series so i'm gonna have to do a couple of zoom calls on the wednesday and thursday as well get some meta glasses flying back on the friday morning to do the last leg. So it is going to be a tight little experience. So how long are you there for?

38:09Six days. I think it would be better for the children to have lessons with an instructor and you go off separately, potentially. It's too late now because they're really excited about having lessons with me. Fair enough. I'm sure it'll be great then. Are you sure?

38:27I... I... What? This is no life. I'm sleeping on the floor. my cat pissing on my coat and my bed we had to get rid of the bed um because it's how do you wash a mattress that's game over for the whole fucking mattress far down the puffer jacket the happiest room i'm in is one that stinks of shit and wet kitten food i've got too many podcasts sorry i feel like i've brought you down within two weeks really approaching 2026 i'm on the front of Runners World magazine and I'm not a runner. The whole thing. What's going on? You can ski as well, Nick. Yeah. It's a March issue, by the way. Don't go out and look for it now.

39:12How old's your youngest now? He's five in May. Right. Okay. Okay, cool. I think skiing is a really fun holiday if everyone involved can ski. Yeah. But the problem with skiing is you have to learn at some point normally on a holiday. How difficult can it be? You're going to have to carry so much equipment. I think it would be a better idea. I'm going to be carrying six skis. Is there any possibility to take the kids to, like, a snow dome place? What, exit a snow dome? Is there one? No, of course not, Rob. No, okay. But there are some in the country. There are Milton Keynes. Milton Keynes. Yeah, go to Milton Keynes.

39:51It's a long way. I mean, my electric car's not going to get me there, is it? Well, you know. Or it won't get the skis in the boot if you get a little one. Would it be worth trying to go for a couple of lessons? There's a snow dome, 155 miles Cardiff? Cardiff? Cardiff snow dome To be fair, you can just find a hill Yeah, to be honest Cardiff snow It might be helpful that they've got a bit of an idea and had a couple of lessons I'm not sure this looks good Well, it doesn't I'm going to send you a picture of Cardiff no disrespect to it just a height street I like Ardiff just to be clear and I'm looking forward to my upcoming tour date oh no it's a dry ski slope yeah look at that Rob there's some tyres at the bottom there must be a dry ski slope in Exeter there's a dry ski slope in Plymouth but I went there when I was seven and it was just bristles you're just skiing on bristles Exeter Ski Club There you go Exeter Ski Club, what's that?

41:03Clifton Hill Exeter What the fuck's this? Oh yeah, look Yeah, that would be perfect Take them down there It's the heart of the city It's not a city It's not a city It is a city It is a Take the cathedral away Tell me it's a city Give me a high street shop And I'll tell you whether we've got it E-Tam Don't know what that is That's an old one Evans Evans. Evans. All right, fine. But a high street shop's not a city. Bromley's got that. Bromley's not a city. Bromley's got an Apple store. What makes a city? Well, big buildings. We've got big buildings. Have you seen Exeter Sixth Form College? It's 20 floors.

41:46Where's the financial centre of Exeter? Where's all the finance buildings? There's an out west on the high street. I may be, yeah, I don't know. I'm not a skier, but it's a lot of hassle. But I'm sure it'll be good. It's going to be a fun episode. There's lots to look forward to for listeners this year. Yeah. What would you be looking forward to most as a listener? You've got my house being redone. You've got my attempts to get off the floor. We've got your attempts to get into shape like Howard Donald. We've got the knowledge that you're going to go back on tour. it's going to be just as stressful and you're going to be crying on a bike by the middle of the summer all right okay let's get the same we've got your innovation we've got your skiing trip um we are going to go on a little road trip through europe um me me and lou and the girls in the summer so that's something to talk about um and um okay what how about i do a weigh-in every week with you oh my word what's this turning into yeah yeah do you know what i'm gonna i've got to hit it hard in the next 10 days because of this runner's world magazine i don't think it's gonna make much difference i'm gonna do 100 press-ups after this what the post office what do you learn um yes i'm currently 94 kilograms okay and i need to lose some of What are you aiming for?

43:1185. 85. Okay. Let's see how that goes, Gary. I was at 98 about 18 months ago when I really tried exercising. If you're looking to really hit exercise, can I suggest come March that there is a magazine that you're going to enjoy? Do you want me to go topless on? Is Men's Health listening? I'll go topless on Men's Health. Will you? Yeah. If they give you a trainer. If they give you a trainer. Would you want to look like Ben Shepard? Yeah, of course you would. What a stupid question. Not his body, just his head. Yeah, okay. No, the thing is, though, it's finding the time. I'm always busy to do. That's why I'm going to try and do a bit of running, because you can do that anywhere.

44:00There's no excuse. You can do that anywhere. You can get the spikes on and just go. That's what I do. Do you want a bit of correspondence, Michael? If there's anything else to chat about, Josh. You know, you're worried I'm approaching 2026 too hard. Yeah. I've put a gig in tomorrow night. What? What, what, what? New material. Why? Well, this is my theory. You're in the middle of a tour. You've got a tour that works. Yeah, yeah. This is my theory. Hear me out. Yeah. Okay. Okay. So this might sound mad. right but

44:44yeah yeah so you alright? yeah I'm fine okay yeah have you had a rest? yeah I've had so much rest have you? yeah I'm taking off have you slept? yeah oh Rob have I slept? no I've got restless leg syndrome we've discussed that we didn't actually properly discuss it so I've spoken to a doctor off the record i just know her she's one of the mums at school yeah said take magnesium we discussed it oh yeah he did yeah sorry more and more your legs are just um fidgety and it stopped it then well also i'm doing stretches before bed and that helps yeah it'd be probably quite helpful to go in your own bed as well wouldn't it she also said when did it happen i said it's happened over christmas when i and it's like where you've totally changed your diet and stopped exercising I think it'll be that.

45:35Yeah, okay. Anyway, don't tell Runners World that, by the way. Do I like running? Mate, I've got Rester's leg. Can't stop me. Everywhere. I'm a roadrunner. So my theory is, right, I do all my warm-ups for my tour. Always be comedy in Kennington. I try all my material there. When it comes to getting the next tour together, i don't want to have to travel up to london all the time just to try new material yep yeah of course you need a local new material venue yes and combined with i've got day stuff in london this week and i've got the evenings free and i don't want to just spend the evening in my hotel room so i was like why don't i rather than pressure myself into now i'm writing a new tour if i've ever got a free evening in london just do the odd gig here and there for three years Just have a day off.

46:31And then it'll just creep up on me. Just have a day off. Just have a night off. You've travelled up to London. Meet a mate. Go to the cinema. I haven't got any mates. Read a book. You have got mates. I don't want to read a book in a hotel room. It's too bleak. I've got a new bit about little toenails that I want to throw out. I thought you were going to say that you're doing a gig locally to see what it's like. It's because I'm in London for three nights. Yeah. Yeah, but why don't you wait until... till you need new material? Because I've got a new bit about little toenails that I want to try out.

47:08Yeah, but you'll... Can't you try it out on your tour show? No, people have paid money. Yeah, but they won't notice. If it's a good bit, it'll survive. It's not a good bit. That's why I'm trying it out. Okay. But if you've got the energy to do it and you want to do it, go for it, mate. Well, let's see how it goes in February. But I think my instinct would be, why not... Jared Christmas runs really good gigs in Frone. Froome is miles away. It's not. Yeah, but it's for exit. Not with an electric car, it's not. But you're miles away from everything. Not with an electric car, Rob. Are you worried that if you start doing the gigs to all these country bumpkins that live near you, that it's not a proper city like London?

47:48They haven't got no toenails, yeah. Oh no, Froome is miles away from you, actually. Yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah. God, exit is fucking miles away, innit? I thought it was near Bath and Bristol. It ain't, is it? It's not, no. Jesus Christ, you've really fucked off. Oh, get this, Rob. It's an hour and 45 minute drive to Froome. Michael, I asked Michael for the address of our new studios. Why have you gone that far?

48:16So far. The train is quick, isn't it? Yeah. The train is quick. That's why I'm not driving to London. No. Sorry, so you asked Michael for the address of the new studio for the interview ones. Yeah. It's next to my daughter's old school, so I didn't need to leave London at all. Workplace is next to the school. Same road. Yeah, but you didn't leave. I was like, why do I recognise that road name? It's next to the fucking school. No, you did need to leave. Weird, Rob. If we finish, I pick up our drop-off time. Why is the old dad from the school hanging out here? It's mental. that is a bit annoying isn't it for you it's not ideal no i think you need to set why don't you just set up a new club i'm hot footing it to a gig uh straight after okay don't overwork no i'm not going to overwork i'm not going to overwork i haven't got much on in january it sounds like you do i know but i'm playing it up because i'm a laugh

49:19right let's do small small business shout outs um yeah i think you're better off finding a little local venue near exeter to do warm-ups well i'm doing exit comedy festival yeah also as well you need to find a little hundred seat of room and just do josh riddick and work in progresses oh god i don't remember i don't want my name above the door i just want to turn up and people be surprised i'm there and then i do 20 minutes of underwhelming material and we never talk about again

49:51hey Rob, Josh and Michael I'm a huge fan of your pod, I recently saw Josh in Bedford, also known as the hottest gig of all time, it was very hot for our first night out after having our second baby and it was pure joy I'm glad you enjoyed it, I'd love a shelter, I enjoyed it as well I you're pathetic it's the one where I'd given Karen Howe from Strictly comps and they put her front row center and it really did put me off my game i'd love a shout out for a little project i've started while on maternity leave a new mum singing group called sling and sing nice name i recently read an article about how singing can seriously support mum's mental health some people don't believe that some people think that carol singing is problematic i've added that reducing stress and anxiety and building community and confidence there was nothing like it in my local area so i decided to set one up myself the aim is to help to connect mums sing together and then finish with some cake and chat lovely tuesdays at two o 'clock sing and sling there we go message becky it's got her phone number on this should i read that out probably not no so google sing sing and sling if you're in the potter's bar herpfordshire area and you could get go to that uh when it's on hi rob and josh we're two sisters who left our careers to run a family mushroom business around our young kids kaylee brothers mushrooms we first started growing mushrooms for ourselves is this what we is this what i think it is when they say i think it's normal mushroom i don't think it's drunk okay okay fine um when we moved to more plant-based diet and it quickly spiraled into a full-blown business we now grow fresh mushrooms in west sussex and we make grow your own kits so families can enjoy the magic at home too lion's mane king oysters shiitake all the good ones our kits make brilliant christmas gifts and are ideal for adding homegrown mushrooms to your christmas lasagna did you have one no we ate out at christmas i was going to talk about that bollocks too I'll bring it up next year Michael put that in the notes next December We'd love to offer your listeners 10 % off with code GobbleGobble10 Find us on Instagram Kayleebrothers.co.uk C-A-L-E-Y Brothers.co.uk We've listened since day one Parenting doesn't get easier Just different Thanks for the laughs Jodie and Lorraine Kaylee Brothers Mushrooms There we go There we go Thank you very much Oh well thank you very much See you next time, Josh.

52:58Steuern erledigt? Safe.

53:27One, I'm confident if you're listening now, you don't hate me and possibly think I'm funny. Number two, I'm confident if you're listening now, you like podcasts. Number three, I'm confident if you're listening to me and Rob, you prefer pop culture to people talking about things, let's be honest, boring things like history, economics, or politics. I know I do, and that is why I made this podcast. I wanted a show that tells the stories I love from popular culture in the way other podcasts do for drier topics. See above. Basically, I wanted a podcast that realised Milli Vanilli were more interesting than Elizabeth I.

53:59Join me as I give the definitive, or at least the funniest, takes on Mr Blobby. When Ghostwatch convinced BBC viewers ghosts were real. When a band burned a million pounds for a laugh. The Spice Girls, a truly catastrophic Spider-Man musical with music from U2. And David Hasselhoff, Baywatch and his part in the fall of the Berlin Wall. All of them are real, by the way. Either you know what these things are and you're about to learn far more about them than you ever realised you wanted to, or you don't, and you're about to be introduced to some of the maddest things in modern or ancient history.

54:31Stiff necks will learn, loose necks will laugh. New episodes available every Wednesday and Saturday, perfect to fill those gaps between your weekly doses of parenting hell. So go on, you might as well listen, subscribe and follow wherever you get your podcasts now. Museum of Pop Culture with me, Josh Whittacombe, available everywhere on the 1st of January. you

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