S12 EP43: Multi-generational Bad Parenting

2 Jun 2026 · 51 min · 23 chapters

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In short

The hosts discuss “multi-generational bad parenting” through a real-life parking-lot incident (a baby left asleep with direct sun on its face), then pivot to family life during half-term: packing, heat in London/Exeter, trips to Diggerland, and holiday budgeting tips. They also include ads for Crohn’s/ulcerative colitis drug Tremphaya, and a separate segment about Peyronie’s disease (PD) and non-surgical urology options.

Guests

Josh Widdicombe and Rob Beckett (co-hosts). No other guests appear in the transcript.

Key claims

PD is caused by scar tissue under the penis, can cause curvature/bump, pain, and mental health impacts, and is treatable with urology specialists. The “solidarity vs solid Karen” framing depends on phrasing when addressing unsafe parenting.

Notable examples

The car park baby shade incident; finding an explicit “zero fucks given” cat coloring book at the office; Diggerland “digger meets a ride” ride; holiday tips like using breakfast buffets and avoiding hotel minibars.

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Holiday Plans and Family Dynamics

2:30 to 4:00

Rob and Josh discuss their holiday plans and family situations.

“I feel like you are relaxed because you've been at home for a few days, but a little bit absolutely depleted because it's been an intense week and you're like happy, chilled, but no energy.”

Rob's New Phone Setup

4:00 to 6:00

Rob shares his experience of getting a new phone and his plans for it.

“This is Ruben, aged 28 months, from Livingston, Scotland.”

Standby Work and Parenting Challenges

6:00 to 9:00

The hosts elaborate on Rob's standby work experiences and the challenges of parenting.

“And you'll know that you've got Rob personal.”

Children's Birthday Party at Diggerland

9:00 to 10:40

Rob recounts his son's birthday party at Diggerland, sharing the experience and humor.

“Bring the iPad up and I can get you online.”

Family Discoveries and Humorous Moments

10:40 to 14:01

Rob and Josh discuss amusing moments with their families, including a surprising find.

“You bring a topic or you'll bring, you'll be doing a bit or whatever.”

Coloring Book Discussion

14:01 to 15:14

The hosts discuss a humorous coloring book and its inappropriate content.

“Limp dick, motherfucker, nipple dick, piss off, slut, twat waffle, wanker.”

Diggerland Adventures

15:15 to 17:00

The hosts recount their trip to Diggerland and the challenges of the heat.

“Yesterday was a day I felt so fucking smug about not living in Victoria Park.”

Air Conditioning Woes

17:01 to 19:13

The hosts share their experiences with air conditioning during hot weather.

“I looked at my personal phone, my work phone, nothing.”

Gardening with Grandparents

19:14 to 20:38

Discussion about the grandparents creating a vegetable garden for the kids.

“And veg and fruits, so they're growing that with them.”

Train Travel Challenges

20:39 to 21:34

Stories of the chaotic train journeys the hosts have faced recently.

“I just got a lovely bus into town, six minutes, went to the Apple store, did it, came back.”
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Train Travel Challenges

26:00 to 27:25

Stories of the chaotic train journeys the hosts have faced recently.

“Obviously, it's not like they're keeping their clothes clean is their priority.”

Beach Family Activities

28:15 to 29:38

Rob shares a fun family outing at the beach, featuring gymnastics and dance.

“I just think, well, that's obviously not what's happened.”

Diggerland Adventures

29:38 to 32:34

Discussion about a visit to Diggerland and the unique attractions it offers.

“So then we went to Diggerland on Saturday.”

Solidarity or Solid Karen

32:34 to 36:04

Rob discusses a parenting dilemma regarding a child's safety in a car.

“So basically I told someone an issue about their child and sort of by the, and their parenting, but I don't know if I was a show of solidarity as another parent or it was solid Karen.”

Holiday Plans and Family Time

36:04 to 38:21

Rob shares their family plans for the upcoming half-term holiday.

“Oh, I don't know if you know, but the baby's face is in the sun.”

Holiday Plans and Family Time

38:50 to 39:00

Rob shares their family plans for the upcoming half-term holiday.

“Okay, now for a special part of the show called Holiday Heaven, where we give you our top tips and tricks for making the most out of your holiday and your money whilst you're there.”

Holiday Plans and Family Time

39:02 to 42:00

Rob shares their family plans for the upcoming half-term holiday.

“Monzo card anywhere in any currency with no foreign transaction fees.”

Principles of Spending

42:00 to 42:22

The hosts discuss their spending habits and principles regarding prices.

“I would still be able to justify using hotel minibar.”

Principles of Spending

42:48 to 43:12

The hosts discuss their spending habits and principles regarding prices.

“And for a limited time, college students get the best of both worlds.”

Holiday Anticipation

43:52 to 45:20

The hosts share their excitement and plans for an upcoming family holiday.

“I'm quite interested to see how this holiday plays out because they're a lot more confident as swimmers than they were last year.”

Pressing Matters in Comedy

45:20 to 47:22

Discussion about hosting and the pressures of being in the public eye.

“You're a couple of cha-chars away from that.”

Reviewing Grease

47:22 to 48:21

The hosts discuss the movie Grease and its themes, sharing thoughts on its plot.

“The girls are well into Grease, the film Grease.”

Listener Business Shoutouts

48:21 to 50:30

Listeners shout out their small businesses, showcasing unique offerings.

“They meet in the middle, like I wanted Ed Balls to do with me with my joke.”
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0:00Josh Widdicombe:For adults with Crohn's disease or ulcerative colitis symptoms, every choice matters. Tremphaya offers self-injection or intravenous infusion from the start. Tremphaya is administered as injections under the skin or infusions through a vein every four weeks, followed by injections under the skin every four or eight weeks. If your doctor decides that you can self-inject Tremphaya, proper training is required. Tremphaya is a prescription medicine used to treat adults with moderately to severely active Crohn's disease and adults with moderately to severely active ulcerative colitis. Serious allergic reactions, increased risk of infections or lower ability to fight them, and liver problems may occur.

0:40Josh Widdicombe:Before treatment, get checked for infections and tuberculosis. Tell your doctor if you have an infection, flu-like symptoms, or need a vaccine. Explore what's possible. Ask your doctor about Tremphaya today. Call 1-800-526-7736 to learn more or visit Tremfiaradio.com. Let's talk about Peyronie's disease, or PD. It's not widely talked about, and some men may feel reluctant to bring it up, but it's more common than you'd think. PD can happen when scar tissue builds up under the skin of the penis, causing a curve or the bump during an erection that, for some men, may lead to pain during intimacy and impact mental health.

1:20Josh Widdicombe:A trusted urology specialist can help diagnose PD and walk you through your options, including non-surgical treatment. Visit talkaboutpd.com. Let's talk about a condition many people haven't heard of, and it turns out it's more common than you'd think. Peyronie's disease, or PD for short. PD can happen when scar tissue builds up under the skin of the penis. This can cause a curve or the bump during an erection and, for some men, lead to pain during intimacy and may impact mental health. It may also lead to anger and frustration, depression, lower self-esteem, and even withdrawal from sexual activity and physical intimacy.

1:57Josh Widdicombe:Because of this, some men could feel embarrassed or reluctant to talk about PD. The actual cause of PD isn't always known. In some cases, it may be linked to a minor injury or repeated injuries during sex or other physical activity. The good news is, PD is treatable. If you notice a curve with a bump, a trusted urology specialist can help diagnose it and walk you through your options, including non-surgical treatment. To learn more about Peyronie's disease, visit TalkAboutPD.com. Hello, you're listening to Parent in Hell with... Ribbon, can you see Josh Widdicombe? Josh Widdicombe. And Rob Beckett.

2:39Rob Beckett. Oh, there we go, Rob. That was absolutely flawless. Was his name Rubin? Rubin. Rubin. It sounds like she said Rubin. Is it an accent? Can I hear it again, please, Josh? Rubin. Can you see Josh Widdicom? It's Rubin in a Scottish accent. But then it sounds like Rubin. Rubin. Rubin. Rubin. Josh, can I pick up on your energy? Yeah. I feel like you are relaxed because you've been at home for a few days, but a little bit absolutely depleted because it's been an intense week and you're like happy, chilled, but no energy.

3:12Josh Widdicombe:As of the time of recording, Rob, we are doing this in the midst of packing. Oh, okay. For a little week holiday. We're going on holiday for half term. Nice. We're recording this Sunday of the bank holiday weekend at 9.30am. Hardcore for your ears. So you little saps don't go, oh, they don't put much effort in anymore. We're here, front line, Sunday. I've got the kids in the office downstairs drawing on the walls. Exactly. Where's Lou? She's in France for a friend's 40th. Oh, lovely. Oh, lovely. I'm loving being at home. She needed a break away. I needed normality at home with the kids. Yeah, exactly.

3:50Josh Widdicombe:So I am quite relaxed, but I don't enjoy packing. And it was my son's birthday yesterday, party. Let me just read out this Ruben thing. Yeah, let's get Ruben sorted. This is Ruben, aged 28 months, from Livingston, Scotland. 28 months. Is that two years? About 30 seconds after this clip, I had to play Lego with him and pretend to be Josh and Rob. Thanks, Chloe Jacobs. Oh, thanks, Chloe. You might also have noticed the quality of the sound of that production, Rob, because I've got a new phone. You've got a new phone? What have you gone for? Finally upgraded to just the newest iPhone, obviously, because I don't know what I'm talking about.

4:28Josh Widdicombe:So I just go, can I have this? Can I have the same one, but the modern version? I'm going to get a Google Pixel for personal and then keep my phone for business. Yeah, you talk about this, and I don't know what that means. Well, I'll tell you what it means, actually. How do I contact you on our WhatsApp group? No, so that'll be my work one, but what I'll do is... What if I want to indulge in some fun banter? Well, that's exactly what the new phone will be for. So what it'll be for is, Josh, I'm going to give a personal number out to friends and one of the agents and say, only in an emergency call this number.

5:04this is like scorsese he's got his trousers down at claridge's go there and do your worst rob no so i'll give on my personal phone i won't have social media oh right so i was gonna say

5:18Josh Widdicombe:if i'm honest with you the work stuff's not the thing that drags me into my phone addiction no exactly but i only really need social media for work i'm not a big fat it doesn't bring anything to my life socially you do spend a lot of time i don't know if it's changed you do spend an inordinate amount of time kind of doom scrolling tiktok hours hours so you're trying to lose that trying to lose that so this is what it'll be so then i've used my work phone from like 10 a.m till 6 p.m or 5 p.m in the week yeah then i put that in a drawer and turn it off until the next morning and then i do have my other phone and on my other phone is uh ringo if i'm driving anywhere for the parking i'll have a whatsapp and i message but it'll be a new number and I'll only give this number out to friends and family that won't contact me about work.

6:04And you'll know that you've got Rob personal. Michael? Michael can have it because sometimes we have banter about football shirts. If he doesn't want it, that's fine as well. I'll give people the choice and I'll have my calendar on it, but I won't have any emails on it. No emails and no social media. I'm excited for this. Yeah. And I'm just going to float around like a businessman in the eighties. It's just like, well, email should me now.

6:26Josh Widdicombe:Yeah. Yeah. And then you've got a gig in the evening and you haven't got the address because the address is in an email. Yeah, but I will have my work phone then because I'll still be at work. Oh, I see. Yeah, yeah. Fine. Yeah. This is like for holidays, weekends, you know, but then it is. Yeah. So that's the plan. I think it's a good plan. I like it. I like it. I like it. I'm just exploring the plan. I'm exploring the plan. Explore the plan. I'm opened up. Dig. yeah okay so you're lying by the pool on holiday are you taking your work phone and putting in that little safe you get in the hotel room yeah and i'll check it for an hour in the morning so what are you doing by the pool are you gonna have podcasts on this phone i'm gonna have podcasts on there i'm gonna have music on there i'm gonna throw some apps out and i want you to say whether they're on the work for on the personal phone on personal phone yep okay um banking banking amazon Can I tell you something?

7:19And this makes you feel like a 70s house husband. You know, like those dads and men that still have their clothes bought for them by their wives and they pack them. You've never bought anything online? I have never had an Amazon account. What? I've only ever just logged in to lose. On her phone? No, I will use her login on my phone. Oh, right. But then sometimes I'll have to shout downstairs, what, give me the code. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

7:44Josh Widdicombe:I need to purchase something, give me the code. Are you going to have the Amazon app on your personal phone? Now, this is where it's going to get sticky. Passwords. Passwords. I know none. They're all on my work phone. What is current? Just leave my phone. Can I ask why you're going for a different type of phone? Just so it feels different. Right. That's what you said when you had an affair as well, wasn't it? Yeah, it is. So what I'd like to discuss with you, Rob, other apps. I'm going to go through my apps, actually. Yeah, go on. Are you going to have stuff like Netflix? Maybe, maybe not, but I wouldn't install it immediately.

8:20I'd see if I need it. Maybe on holiday and on the plane, I'd have Netflix. iPlayer. iPlayer, Netflix, stuff like that. Yes, I probably will on the personal. Deliveroo? On the personal one, yeah. Yeah. One second. You're right. I'm just recording. Oh, you need the internet. Oh, sorry about this. I should have done this before. I knew there was something. Oh, no. Can you stop playing with Baby Yoda? Oh, God. Hang on. It's all right. I'm just going to log my, the kids are with me, Josh, at the office because it's half term.

8:48Josh Widdicombe:Just give them your personal phone, Rob, or your work phone. What's that? Well, no, they brought their iPads, but I forgot to log them in. Oh, no. Right. Oh, no, it's a long one as well. Oh, no. You all right there? You okay? You want to share it? Hang on. Let's see if, oh, yes, it shares. Sorry about this, Josh. All right. Bring the iPad up and I can get you online. Sorry, Josh, Michael. Give me some more apps while I'm doing this. this okay um it's a new iphone it's massive no it's a bit bigger actually but i didn't go with the big one i fucking hate those big ones that people go for um so all of my other ones are like just those things that you just accrue do you know what i mean yeah but you need like banking you need parking and stuff like that yeah all that so it will work rob it'll work yeah i think it's a really good idea so that's the plan and i think it's an excellent idea all done they're online but yeah that's the plan i'll let you know i'll get on yeah good idea so what are you up to for half term so half term i'm off for most of it i've got to do two days of work in the middle but lou so lou's coming back tuesday so we've just been chilling in the garden the weather's so good did you get the call up from that job you were covering on friday no basically there's jobs in tv where when there's a tv show on and there's a big cast sometimes they pay people to be on standby and you don't get paid the full fee, but you get paid a decent fee to sit at home next to your phone like an emergency plumber.

10:18Either phone. And it rings. Well, no, that would be work phone there. I wouldn't even have my personal one out because I take standby seriously. Yeah, of course. Actually, where some people don't. Some people just live their life with their phone. I'm like, no, I'm in, and I've got the phone there. I sit at my kitchen table with a glass of water and phone in front of me, and I do not move until I get the call.

10:36Josh Widdicombe:and you think of jokes that you could come up with were you to get the call yeah and i'm dressed in my outfits yeah of course my comedy outfits and i've got my squirty feather squirty flower i've got my red nose and i'm a clown on standby yeah exactly but i didn't get the call up so but some people will do it for a whole series of something so they'll often get the call in that situation because if there's like 10 episodes i'll probably get a drop out but it does mean that some people are like i don't know on standby for the whole series of what i lie to you with with their lies do you know what i mean oh yeah yeah yeah this one wasn't as much prep so that was all right but um yeah no i didn't get a call up um so i was just chilling at home then i managed i got the call up at half 10 to tell me i was released because basically some of them once everyone arrives at the studio you're good as gold so i'm not going to name the show because I think that's a bit unfair, but you know, on some shows you have to prepare what you're going to talk about.

11:36Josh Widdicombe:You bring a topic or you'll bring, you'll be doing a bit or whatever. Yeah. I know of a story of a show where you have to bring what you're going to talk about and each person brings a different thing they're going to talk about. And then someone pulled out and the replacement had to just talk about this topic because they, the whole show was built around it. So you're not just replacing the person and coming in like you were on that show. Right. doing your own thing you have to replace the you have to suddenly pretend that this is what you care about and this is what you've brought because all the production that's gone into it oh that's brutal because of all the production yeah so someone had to come in your daughter's here that noise no there's some weird noise what's going on one second oh no oh no oh no this is a classic old school app this is a classic old school parenting hell app do you know what i'm going to celebrate by dancing my teabag with my fingers while Rob's not there because he won't see it.

12:31One of them just used a toilet and that's the toilet making a noise that it does for a bit after someone's been to the toilet but normally I'm here on my own. You've never been to the toilet? Well I have been to it stopped. I have been to the toilet but not normally during the pod. Yeah of course of course that would be awful. Yeah

12:47Josh Widdicombe:horrible just like oh don't worry I'll move the camera Now Yeah go on. My son's birthday my son's birthday party yesterday Yes Diggerland! Diggerland How was Diggerland? Have you ever been to Diggerland? No, I haven't. It's a bit far, but it's not the kind of one you can do for a day from London. So there's quite a few Diggerlands in the UK. Oh, okay. So this is the Devon Diggerland. Yeah, well, just look at HS2. Bloody, the whole country's a Diggerland, am I right? Oh, here we go. Here we bloody go. Get him on LBC. Yeah. Just to get to boom them 20 minutes quicker. Come on. Here we go. Here we go.

13:23Josh Widdicombe:HS2, that's what I call it. Ideally, I'd get to Manchester slower, am I right? because I don't want to bloody be there, et cetera. Come on, word, here we go. What? Are you all right? Yeah, can I come in? Yeah, quickly. I've got a look. Yeah, come in quick. I found this. Yeah, okay. I'll better take that, thank you. Okay, so they're in my office, so they're finding stuff that I've not really pre-checked. Oh, no, it's not a porno, is it? No. It's Reader's Wives. It's Creative Swery Cats, right? Oh, no, and it says fuck off on it. Yeah, so she said, I've just found this, and I don't think we should have it, and it's got fuck off written on it.

14:02Then the next page is... So what is this? Well, I think Tom Elliott, the guy used to tour management, he bought it for me as an end of tour present because he used to do colouring in, and it says zero fucks given, arsehole, and it's a picture of a cat with his arsehole. And it's a colouring book. Yeah, bollock, bullshit, damn you. Are they not too bad? Dickhead, fuck face. Fuck off. Fuck this shit. Fuck you. Come. Oh. Oh, no.

14:31Josh Widdicombe:Oh, no. Oh, that noise. Oh, we're better than that, aren't we? Oh, come. Oh, that's a shame. Limp dick, motherfucker, nipple dick, piss off, slut, twat waffle, wanker. And that's it. Yeah. So, yeah. Well, thanks for giving it to me. Do you know what? Good on her. Good on her. Yeah. She's definitely had a good old read of that. Yeah, yeah. I hope she didn't go, oh, come, that's a shame. That's a real shame. C-U-M. That's not how it's spelt, Dad. We've all let ourselves down here, haven't we? I mean, that's not great parenting, is it? I've taken her to work. She's found a book with cum written in it, and she said, Dad, I don't think we should have this, and given it to her.

15:13Who's parenting who? She's not wrong. She's not wrong. She's not wrong.

15:18Josh Widdicombe:And then I told her off for coming up. Anyway, sorry about that. So we went to Diggerland. Yes. It is brilliant. It was so hot. It was the hottest day. The hottest day. Was that yesterday? That's meant, it was 30 degrees. It was so, I tell you what, Rob. Yeah. Yesterday was a day I felt so fucking smug about not living in Victoria Park.

15:41Why, but it wouldn't be good to live near Victoria Park when you live near there.

15:44Josh Widdicombe:No, Rob. Have you been there? Was it too busy? Oh my God. It's yeah, it's for the whole of the Victoria Park village is full of people buying beer to go and sit in the park. It's just absolutely rammed. And then the park is immovably full. And London is just so fucking hot. London is hot. London is. People don't talk enough about how hot London gets. You know, they talk about how smoggy it was in Victorian times. People need to go. It's going to be a hot day, which will be great for everywhere. But London where it's fucking shit. but what it's it's it's like an absolute furnace but what the problem is though is like when you go to new york gets hot like that but then the problem in new york is it lost a rain in new york then no no not in the summer it's red hot but then what happens is you wear shorts and a t-shirt and you go into any shop or restaurant or office and it's freezing with the air con where in london there's not that much air con you just go into a corner shop or like a off license and the chocolate's oh there's just a just a guy just dying behind the the counter.

16:50Josh Widdicombe:Boss man's like in a puddle. I tell you what, we went to Chelsea flower show on Friday by we, I mean me, Emma and Emma and Jojo. You knew best mates. You rat. He's sniveling little. I looked at my personal phone, my work phone, nothing. Just you being held by a massive man. But even Jojo was sweating. How big is Jojo? By the way, Jojo, If you look beyond the dancing and the sort of exuberant personality, he could be a heavyweight boxer. He's an absolute unit. His posture is off the charts. This dancing posture thing, the massive arses and rock hardcore is outrageous. Yeah, even Jojo was sweating at Chelsea Flower Show.

17:32Josh Widdicombe:Jojo's from South Africa. Yeah. Like, so it's too hot in London. So what would happen in London is by now we'd be going, it's going to be almost impossible to go to sleep because our house was boiling. Yes. And we had one aircon unit in my daughter's room. With the tube hanging out the window. With the tube hanging out the window. And it's so big and heavy. It's mental, isn't it? It would be in the corner of the room for 11 months of the year when it's not needed because you couldn't move it somewhere else. It is like a fridge. Yeah. It was unbelievable. Well, because I panic bought one of them from Curry's for like 200 quid.

18:11when Lou came back from operation and I was getting her and where we used to live out the sun would set in our windows the rooms were absolutely unbearable so I bought this one unit so I had an aircon unit going in the room and it was when it was like 40 degrees you know 38 degrees 40 degrees it was mental and um I had it on full blast at 18 in the room and the room was still 25 degrees oh my word Rob they're just and it's so heavy and they're so heavy so heavy and you've

18:39Josh Widdicombe:You don't have the little window open, but you've got to put that little slot in. Yesterday evening, Rob, do you know what we did? What did you do? My parents' present to my daughter and son for Christmas, which has been a great present, was that they were going to make them a veg garden. Bit of fucking babysitting now they're nearby. Yeah, here we go. Here we bloody go. Well, basically. Yeah, pull your finger out. You've had six years and a half part-time contract. How about you get up here and put a shift in, yeah? It wasn't quite like that. Obviously, you couldn't do it in London. Couldn't do it in London because it was too far.

19:07now we're here, pull your finger out and get babies in. Is that what you said to them? Was that the present? No, that's not the present, no.

19:12Josh Widdicombe:No, no, no. So in the garden, they've made my daughter and son a veg garden. Ah. And veg and fruits, so they're growing that with them. So they came around at four yesterday. My dad and mum did the garden with my children. So the veg garden's in your garden? In our garden, yeah. Right, so their present to your children is they're digging holes in your garden? I knew you were going to find a hole in it, no pun intended. no so no i'm only messing no that's a lovely thing to do good luck with your work phone system rob we all will believe that'll work no i'm only i am digging a hole in it just for you know podcast podcast fun podcast fun but there's no point them having it at their house because they won't see the growth every day i'll be able to do it every day exactly so we just sat out in the garden till about half eight in the evening and it was lovely and at no point were we thinking oh my god you know it's too hot we've got to go to bed in a minute we've got to go to bed in a minute we're dreading it so why is that just exeter is cooler and is you've got more space and there's a bit of a breeze because where you were before you're in a terrace house hey we've got a garden well you had a garden before but it's like a yeah but it it was a it was the size of this room and it was packed onto other gardens and it was like a boxed in patch yeah yeah so you're not like this is my oasis do you know what i mean and there's no breeze there's no breeze it's cooler the whole house is cool because because london's so built up is why is your house cooler than why not why is your house why you live is cooler because there's not a billion buildings around you and loads of vehicles and all kinds of things that make it warm presumably well yeah underground the underground as well yeah so london's just boiling so it's not as boiling We've got a lot more room.

20:57Josh Widdicombe:I had to go and trade in my old iPhone. I just got a lovely bus into town, six minutes, went to the Apple store, did it, came back. Previously, Rob, previously, I'd have been driving to Westfield, struggling to get a parking space. Everyone's in there because it's air conditioned, queuing up to get an appointment. Oh, Rob. Exactly. So now your life's much easier and you're not going to have to. Here we go. Here we go.

21:27Here we go. Even you know the mechanics work. And now you could just really enjoy that when you're getting a train to and from London twice a week, every week forever now.

21:38Josh Widdicombe:I had a bit of a bad one on Friday, Rob. I had a bad one after Chelsea Flower Show. So you had to go back up to London again? Oh, I popped up for the Chelsea Flower Show because I love Chelsea Flower. You popped up, just popped up, quick six, seven-hour journey, round-trip, pop-up. Well, minimum on Friday. It's bank holiday. so Banquo Day Friday what time are you leaving? two yeah so I went up early few hours Chelsea Flower Show yeah get to Paddington points failure all the trains are delayed luckily I managed to get one that's actually earlier than the train I needed because it's the one before that's been delayed I'm winning at live I like that that's nice yeah I'm just chilling get beyond Reading train stops bad news we're gonna have to go back to Reading we can't proceed No, no one ever wants to go back to Reading.

22:25No offence, Reading.

22:26Josh Widdicombe:Go back to Reading. Can't proceed. So I go back to Reading. Everyone gets detrained, as they say. Go to Platform 12 or whatever. We get to Platform 12. It is two sets of people on one trade. You know, ivory tower concerns. I'm thinking it's fine. I've got a first class ticket. And because you do the last leg and some people presume that you're disabled, do you ever maybe start a little limp towards a seat and they just assume you might be Brooker? No, I've never been mistaken for Alex. Cause I've been accused of being you and disabled numerous times. Yeah. Like they've said you're Josh Whittacom and put me in the accessibility room in hotels more than once.

23:10Josh Widdicombe:Yeah. Yeah. No, no, no, that hasn't, I didn't, I don't do that. Cause you know, I'm a public figure and trains we've all seen, you know, you don't want to sit in the wrong place. You don't want Strictly Star stealing seats in disability claim. Before you know it, Rob, I've decided I think it's fine. I'm first class here, Rob. I've paid the extra. Here we go. You should have space. I get to first class. Yeah. There's no space. I sit on the floor, do the full Jeremy Corbyn, because I don't want to stand up for three hours. So I make a space amongst the luggage on the floor. See, I sit on the luggage rack, the top bit of the luggage rack.

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23:47Josh Widdicombe:What, the thing above people? No.

23:53Josh Widdicombe:You just lie in there. Just a little coffin lie. No, no, on Southeastern trains. I'd love to get on a train. Oh, yeah? You're lying. Bit snug, innit? Where you been? Just been down at a flower show with Jojo and Emma. Pass me a fucking tea up here. Anyone got any red bush? I'm gasping. Boiling up here. no on the south eastern they've got like because it's a commuter train they've got like a little luggage right that's sort of about as wide as your shoulders and about as deep as just thought was the thighs so it's like it's where you put like little backpacks rather than big suitcases yeah right yeah no no they haven't got that on gwr and you i sometimes used to jump up and snuggle in there yeah yeah no so i'm on the floor lent on a bag thinking obvious jealousy to the people in the chairs but then yeah gloriously three old people get on yeah and they go we're gonna need three people to leave their seats oh and the tension in the room is incredible how old are these people though oh they're definitely there's no question there there's no there's no way they're standing and then these people had to move so then i'm thinking i'm sat on the floor for three hours here yeah and then we left for half an hour still haven't left and then they declare there's another train going to exeter anyone who's going to exit and move on to this train so i run across the other platform get a seat my third train home and what time did that leave after your that was that much i got home at 6 p.m i got to paddington at half one right cool yeah and then i was going to the beach well it's good because going forward you won't be needing to get the train on Fridays and Saturdays so you should be fine I'll be fine yeah yeah yeah I'm getting the train up first thing on Friday that's what I'm doing okay yeah with my work and personal phone in either pocket oh one in each pocket and two separate headphone cases one one personal one for business oh yeah of course you'll have to do that absolutely

25:54Josh Widdicombe:this episode is brought to you by new personal non-bio ultra stain removal capsules Josh, how much washing do you think you guys get through? Oh, mate, so much. Because your kids, right? Obviously, it's not like they're keeping their clothes clean is their priority. Do you know what I mean? No. Having fun is their priority. Yes. So you could be getting through more than one outfit in the day because, you know, they'll go play in the garden, they'll jump on the trampoline, but it'll be muddy to get to the trampoline or whatever. But you've got to just accept that because that's being a kid. Do you know what I mean?

26:26Josh Widdicombe:You don't want to be going to your kid. oh this is important you want them to be enjoying their life right well and i got my daughter that hot chocolate she had like a white jumper on and was driving along i was like it's not chocolate if you want and i was like she's definitely gonna spill that on a jumper but i'm like do you want to be the dad that's like take the jumper off put it aside because you might spill it drink it you know no just let her learn let it dribble down the top we can wash it when you get home exactly because that stain rob says i'm having a fun time yes grass stains on your trousers they say i've had a fun time outside.

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28:14Josh Widdicombe:So the other thing is We went to the beach on Friday night After school Ah Exmouth Beach Had a lovely time oh so my daughter and her friend were doing a gymnastics and dance display for us yeah and my daughter said oh dad daddy could you announce it like you're hosting strictly and i was like i'm not gonna do that oh because if anyone sees me and goes do you know what i walked past josh he was making his family play that he was the host of strictly yeah but you are you're not playing you are it's practice i'm mad you know he was unveiled as the host of strictly three days later he's got his family on the beach and he's making them practice nah i think do it also we have got the good thing now about podcasts and social media is you've now got a platform to explain what you're doing so no one if anyone because now if people read a newspaper headline of you or emma or or anyone in the public eye what i do is if there's a mad claim josh widdokombe in crazy, strictly performance on beach in front of children.

29:21I just think, well, that's obviously not what's happened. That's just the headline they've done to do clip mate. So I'll read it and then I'll find whoever they're talking about on their social media and see the clip explaining what's gone on.

29:31Josh Widdicombe:Yeah. So this is my version of that. Yeah. So there you go. But yeah, I did do it slightly. I did the voiceover bit. It isn't me. You know, the dancing. Oh, go on. Give us a little blast. Give us a little blast. Dancing the cha-cha is Rob and Lou. Ah, we've not danced for years. So then we went to Diggerland on Saturday. Nice. It is great. Let me show you one of the rides, Rob. Let me show you one of the rides. So they've got rides. I just thought you just got in diggers and moved dirt. Well, this is a digger meets a ride. Okay. Do you want me to send this to your personal or to a business? Business.

30:04This is a strictly business interaction. No, no, no. But now I'd have my work phone with me because I'm at work.

30:09Josh Widdicombe:Yeah, of course. Now I know. So this is the ground shuttle. Oh, so it's like... The Rose is absolutely loving it. So it's a digger lifting up what is a massive pallet with people on. Yeah. And he's just driving you around on a bit of mud. Just swinging them around and mounts them up and down. I wouldn't call that a ride. They were loving it. It looks mental. Yeah. What a job. How has that got Park's health and safety? Oh, he did a great bit of patter beforehand. It looks about a thousand degrees. It looks like you're like, you know, like a dust bowl in Spain. Yeah. He did a great bit of patter beforehand.

30:47Josh Widdicombe:He said, if anyone has a problem during the ride, put your hands up and I'll ignore you. Bit of fun. There we go. So are you on this ride? Is that you filming Rose on it? No, because I was filling the car with presents and then I came back and suddenly everyone was on this ride and I wasn't. So I just filmed it. That's so funny. That's great fun. So where is Diggerland? That one was in Columpton, but there's ones all around the country. You what? Columpton. They love it down there, don't they? Yeah. Don't you all chuck a P and a B in any word, any word they can find. Oh, there's one in Kent. There's one in Kent.

31:31Half an hour from me. There you go. I might just take the kids Diggerland on a surprise mission. Do it. I'm looking at the photos, isn't it? They are really, there's a lot of diggers.

31:41Josh Widdicombe:Yeah. No, I don't. Do you know what? I didn't, I know this sounds mad because it's called Diggerland. I didn't expect it to be as diggery as it was. It's so digger. There's so many diggers. I thought there'd be like little diggers. We got to, you had to go on a digger as well, picking up, like doing the thing and picking up dirt. It was great. Well, do you know what must it feel like for a builder to take their kids there? I know. To pay to do that when he's like, I could just bring them to work. There was loads of really ripped blokes, Rob. Yeah, but Diggerland's quite alpha, isn't it? It's like if you're proper alpha male, you're like, I'm not going Legoland, I'll go Diggerland.

32:18Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's a bit more geezer, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. My boy's into diggers. Yeah. Yeah, a bit like you, you and your tribe. Yeah, exactly. So it was fun. Tell me about your parenting. Well, I've got another idea for a bit of correspondence. Okay. I've got an example of it and you can tell me. I'm going to call it Solidarity or Solid Karen. Right, okay, here we go. So basically I told someone an issue about their child and sort of by the, and their parenting, but I don't know if I was a show of solidarity as another parent or it was solid Karen. What did you say? This is huge. Yeah, I know.

32:55It's quite fun. So this wasn't someone from school. No, this is separate stranger. Stranger danger. So I'm paying for my parking in a car park and then there's a car. It's really hot, 30 degrees, like probably 11 AM. for about 28 degrees 11 a.m to set the scene half 11 i know it is that actually because i dropped the kids anyway walk past the car all the windows are open there's a sort of looks like a grandmother in the front passenger seat just reading a book sunglasses on chilling out behind her is a one and a half year old asleep in the car seat with the window open yeah yeah fully sparko but laying there the sun is directly on the baby's face like full pelt nothing shielding it like that so i was like that is gonna burn that kid's face off unless the kid's got cream on but even with cream you shouldn't let a baby sleep in direct sun yeah so i'm like right do i say something so where's the driver where's the mom don't know where the mom or the dad is or the granddad

33:54Josh Widdicombe:in the shop i imagine shopping it's just an empty car no no no the nan's in the front seat oh okay so there's a grandmother i think or an older mom in the passenger seat just reading whilst they're so they've got i'll stay with the baby you go and do the shopping oh okay yeah sun's right on the baby's face so i'm like well maybe the sun moved a bit or whatever or they're oblivious so i just walked past went oh just so you know the sun's right on their face while they're sleeping yeah i think i think that's fair and she went oh okay thanks and then i walked off but i was like i don't know where that lies i think that's fine because i i don't think you've gone in and you've gone excuse me you're burning your child's head you need to deal with this because this is unacceptable what you're doing yeah that's karen isn't it where i i think what i did was raise awareness for them yeah because when i went off they did go to the door and get like a muslin and put it you know the classic put it in the door so it hangs down with shade so i think you're in the right there rob because you handled it in the right way because you are criticizing her obviously yes but that file it under solidarity so if i came to your tour show and i said that routine about you know car boot sales simply isn't good enough that would be bad but if i said have you ever thought about maybe putting a better observation at the start of that car boot sale routine and it might help it throughout now do you know what i'd say to you I'd say, shouldn't you be on a train at Paddington home rather than bothering me after my show?

35:31Yeah, you'd be right. No, but then I did think though, Josh, if she said, no, the baby's fine. Then you're in a tricky position. I would have said something. I would have gone, well, the baby's not and you're a terrible parent. That child needs shade. Yeah. And if you don't put shade on that child, I'm going to take down your details, your car registration and report you to the social services. Now get the muslin out and put the shade up. Yeah. Anyway, send in your solidarity or solid Karens, whether you've done it or had it done to you, and then we can decide if it's solidarity or solid Karen.

36:03Josh Widdicombe:I think a lot of it is down to the phrasing, isn't it? It's not the request, it's the phrase. Yes. Do you know what I mean? It's how you frame it. Oh, I don't know if you know, but the baby's face is in the sun. Just to let you know. That's nice, wasn't it? Well, I did it. Okay, so I'm not a solid Karen. So what do you think has happened? The mum's gone in or the dad and the gran's been left in the car. And probably oblivious to the son on the child's face. Yeah, exactly. So just, you know, multi-generational bad parenting. Hey, it happens. Multi-generational bad parenting. Exactly, exactly, Rob.

36:37Josh Widdicombe:That's, you know, it's a story as old as time. Sometimes the mother-in-law and the mother and the father and the father-in-law don't know best. But you know who knows best? Bobby B. That's right. Exactly. So what are you doing for half-tour? Have you got plans for half term or are you winging it? No, we're having a chilled one because Lou's working and I'm working. So it's a lot of like logistics. So because it was hot on yesterday, we had a little barbecue in the garden and I put a sprinkler up. Then today we're doing the podcast. And then this afternoon we're going to Tom Allen's got a book out, Common Decency, which I started reading.

37:11And it's absolutely brilliant. I meant to Instagram about that, but I just deleted my Instagram. He's like Alan Bennett for a new generation. with just such vivid description of sort of mundane normal life. This is what I sent to him about it because I actually am really enjoying it and I struggle in novels sometimes. I said, you paint such a beautiful, alluring and funny picture of what could be a boring suburban street. It's a real skill, such a USP, making the mundane exciting. I think this could be your true calling. I hate all the spy action dragon novels. Too hard to imagine a dragon, but I can already picture your characters.

37:44And if you can do that to someone with ADHD and dyslexia, then all the novel fans are going to jizz everywhere. Oh, that's nice. Yes, it is brilliant. He wouldn't put that quote on the book. No, of course. But, you know, each to their own. You know, he put you on the back of the book. Don't worry about it. No problem. So he's having a little book celebration. So we're going to his garden in the afternoon. Oh, nice. Then tomorrow we go into the neighbours. They've got a big paddling pool and they're going to have a barbecue there. Tuesday we're having a chill day. I go to work. Lou comes back from her trip.

38:15then Lou's taking them out somewhere Wednesday for a day trip and then Thursday I think they're just chilling at home then Friday I'm back in the game Lou's doing a book tour at Hay-on-Wire festival and I'm taking them to my mum and dad's for a day trip down to Margate and then um Saturday Sunday we've got just a chilled weekend we're just trying to they're so tired the kids yeah um so we're just trying to relax and float about and with no plans. I think it's nicer sometimes, especially when the weather's like this.

38:50Josh Widdicombe:Okay, now for a special part of the show called Holiday Heaven, where we give you our top tips and tricks for making the most out of your holiday and your money whilst you're there. And it's brought to you by Monzo. You can pay with your Monzo card anywhere in any currency with no foreign transaction fees. Now, Rob, I know you're going to like these words let's talk about holidays oh it's what i live for it's what you live for you hate your mundane experience don't you rob you live to be away i love a holiday it's our favorite things at the age of 40 i've worked myself in a position to have i'd say slightly uh fancy holidays than i used to have of course however still one of my favorite holidays ever when I was, I think I was 22, 21.

39:37I went around Europe on the trains. I got that ticket. I don't think they do it anymore where you've got unlimited train travel. So that was like a few hundred quid. And then the rest of the time we were in hostels, we were eating food and getting food from supermarkets and stuff like that. And that was a proper adventure. I loved it. At one point I was getting crisps and scooping out cream cheese with the crisps for my dinner.

40:01Josh Widdicombe:I don't consider that a tip. I don't know if that's a holiday. Don't consider that a holiday. But this is the thing, right? Yeah. Holidays are not just about spending loads of money. Like when I was a kid, I remember we used to go to Wales, South Wales, Pembrokeshire, lovely. Yeah. My dad would like get the amount of cash out for the holiday because it was a cash society in those days. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. And then he'd know how much cash for the holiday. It's a good way of doing it. Put the amount of money aside for the holiday. But now in Monzo, you can do that in Monzo. Exactly. And then you know where you are with the holiday.

40:33Josh Widdicombe:You're not working on a day-to-day basis. You've got the holiday's budget and you can just roll with it. Well, we thought what we did with my mates, we all agreed what our budget was going to be. So we all agreed that we're going to spend X amount a day. And then we'd had an amount. And then we knew that that would cover us for that amount of time. Because what you don't want, go traveling with someone that's got loads more money than you. And then it feels a bit awkward where someone wants to stay here or there. Exactly. So we've found that challenge of like trying to find a cheap pint. it's part of the deal of them you know we've got x amount a day to go traveling also rob do you want do you want a money saving tip go if you're a place with a breakfast buffet steal some bloody pastries for the rest of the day mate come on i did i always make a little plane a little plane baguette where i'd basically fill it with all the lovely delicious stuff from breakfast and then eat it on the plane and everyone be jealous of my plane baguette i did that on the way back from seville that's totally within the rules that's totally within the rules also it's good for kids because they're not hungry, but you know they're going to be desperate for a croissant in about an hour.

41:30Exactly, exactly. Also, what we do is when we go to hotels, sometimes you go to like an all-inclusive or a half-bought hotel where you get the food, but sometimes kids want snacks and they want sweets and treats that aren't always at the hotel. Google the local supermarket, have a little trip out. That's what we do as well with inflatables. In the hotels, they're always really expensive, but if you find a little shop nearby, go and buy a cheaper inflatable there. What do you think the biggest travel ripoff is though, Rob?

41:56Josh Widdicombe:Hotel minibars still stress me out. I don't think if I was Jeff Bezos, I would still be able to justify using hotel minibar. It's a principle thing, isn't it? It's a principle thing. I know that Kit Kat is not£4 at the shop I can see from my window. I can't spend£3.50 on a packet of crisps, whatever my financial situation. Now, Josh, I hope some of that is of some use to the listeners. I think it is. And with Monzo, you can spend on your card just as you do at home and there's no surprises. You'll get instant spend notifications showing what you're spending in local currency in pounds, and you'll see the real-time exchange rates in the app as you spend.

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43:51Josh Widdicombe:Well, I'm very excited. I'm quite interested to see how this holiday plays out because they're a lot more confident as swimmers than they were last year. And so I'm wondering if I'm not going to be having to go in every single time. Do you know what I mean? Can I tell you where you're going to be? Sat on the edge of the pool with your feet in? Yeah. Watching. I'll tell you that. Close enough to jump in, but you're not in, in. Yeah. Someone walking past going, do you know what? You want to get, you because that dad is getting absolutely belted in the sun. Get a muslin over there. Get a big hat.

44:26Josh Widdicombe:You need a big bucket hat. That's what you need. I'm not sure if I do need a big bucket hat, yeah. But I am looking forward to it. We're going to stop you burning. No, I know. I know, but I don't know whether I'd go bucket hat. Maybe I'd go with one of those. You need a nice holiday after all the touring and all the work. I know. Rose has already kind of said, you know, it's been a tough few months for her. So I think I'm going to have to take quite a lot of the strain on the holiday. And I think that's fair. Yeah. She's done most of the parenting. You've done no parenting. Well, no, I have done some parenting.

44:58Josh Widdicombe:I videoed them on a digger yesterday. I'd say you've done actually less than me, which is almost impossible the last few months. Well, yes. But that's because my tour was slightly jutting out at the end of yours, wasn't it? So I was still touring when you weren't. Yeah. Yeah. But let's not point fingers. but second half of the year is more or less clear. I've got to stop saying that because it's definitely not. You've just got the biggest job in TV. Well, Director General of the BBC. We'll give it time. You're a couple of cha-chars away from that. In my experience of hosting Strictly. If I was Director General of the BBC, I'd resign within a week because I would be so bad at it.

45:35Josh Widdicombe:It's too much stress. Too many meetings. Too much stress. I can't do serious. Imagine having to do press where you have to be serious rather than... I know. You did very well on Good Morning Britain the other week, by the way, like a politician that was. You were a little slippery eel. Oh, thank you. Yeah, that was fun, wasn't it? I loved what you said about a perfect couple, and you were alluring to Ed Balls and Susanna Reid. Took them too long to clock. I know. It was slightly annoying. I'm like, come on, guys. Come on, guys. Way too long to clock. You were really doing some legwork. Come on, guys.

46:08Josh Widdicombe:Do you want me to spoon feed you this fucking joke, Ed? Do you want to meet me in the middle, Ed? Ed, how about you get your eyes open and ears open? Don't worry about what you're saying next. Yeah? You booked a comedian last time I checked, but turns out you're treating me like you've booked Neil Kinnock. Come on, Ed. Jeez. Ballsy weren't letting you go, was he? What do you think this is? It's a joke. It's a joke, Ed. Come on. Come on, Ed. Let's have a laugh. And you, Susanna. Yeah, no, she was sort of a bit more involved, but he was a dog with a bone. You weren't getting an exclusive out of old J-Dubbers.

46:42Don't you worry about that. He's too long in the tooth. I've learned from the best, Ed. You. You. We ended up you, Ed, and we got loads from you. Oh, I burnt all the hairs on my arms doing a barbecue yesterday. Oh, no. Oh, no. It's had these all weird little frazzles on my arms. I've got bald arms. Oh, no. I know. It's weird, isn't it? Yeah.

47:01Josh Widdicombe:That's normal. But it's weird that we've looped back to hairless at the end of the pod. It is, isn't it? Before we know it, Lou's going to come home to Rob scorching all the hairs off himself over the barbecue, suspending himself bum first over the barbecue. It'll be easier. Maybe I should just lean my back on the barbecue and burn it off. Exactly. It'll be easier. Everyone's a winner. Oh, dear. We watched Grease. The girls are well into Grease, the film Grease. They love it. Not the new film. It's been out forever. But we watched that. Did they enjoy it? That's good. They loved it. Love Grease.

47:35It's a great film.

47:36Josh Widdicombe:what's the premise of Greece? Danny Zuko and Sandy have a summer romance and they think it's all over. Then they meet again at high school, even though they're all 48. And basically he's a cool guy in a gang and she's a bit of a sort of, um, you know, bookish boffin. And then he's sort of scared to be nice to her because he was, he's getting peer pressure from all the other grease balls. Yeah. And then he basically tries to be more straight edge by going, you know, being in the football and sports teams and all that. And then she becomes a bit more rock and roll. And in the end, she starts smoking and wears sexy clothes and they'll get off.

48:14And then for some reason, the car flies off in the end. Apologies for spoiler alerts, but if you haven't seen Grease now, you never will.

48:19Josh Widdicombe:No, exactly. Do you know what Danny and Sandy do there, Rob? They meet in the middle, like I wanted Ed Balls to do with me with my joke. He's in it for the scoop. You're in it for the laughs. Exactly. Do you know what? We're all doing our jobs. We were all doing our jobs. And then we all went home. I thought you know what I did a good job today yeah um I'm going to give a quick shout out to Eagle Eye Oven Cleaning they come and did my barbecue again absolutely faultless service I gave my small business shout out before they get rid of the burned hair off it yeah well no I burnt hair afterwards so if you come around for a barbecue this year it might be a bit hairy but that's on you but um I paid for it I paid them this is not I'm not getting freebies here here's a normal one here's a normal one here we go hello Rob Josh and Michael big fan of the podcast I discovered it when on maternity leave with my first child back in 2021 now tempted to go back and listen to the first episodes i missed don't bother don't bother no please do it's all streams it's all money in our pocket josh of course does it count michael if they listen to old ones again point one of a penny thank you very much absolutely it counts and i would encourage everyone yeah it counts get on i'll tell you what here's a small business shout out parent in hell the early the early series get on them listen back get on there um anyway uh i would have a small business shout out please.

49:33I have just set up a small business selling responsibly made backpacks. Our brilliant backpacks are made from recycled ocean bound plastic to help prevent plastic waste re-chiny oceans in areas where waste management is limited. Our backpacks are designed to be practical yet stylish with useful pockets, a laptop pouch and super comfortable with a padded back. We're called Olive and Rufus and can be found at oliveandrufus.com or oliveandrufus on Insta. I'm mum to a three and five year old, so it's quite the juggle. I've got a feeling they might be called Oliver Rufus, but I'm just assuming. It's been a juggle launching a business and looking after our energetic too.

50:11A juggle I'm sure lots of your listeners can relate to. Work, children, life. Thank you so much, Emma. There you go. There you go. Oliver. Oh, they're nice. Oliver Rufus. Nice backpacks. Reasonably priced as well. £65 for a nice, well-made, responsibly made backpack.

50:29Josh Widdicombe:There we go. Lovely. Hi, Rob and Josh. I'd like to shout out my dear friend, Tom's small business, Killer Trails. Tom has created murder mystery trails in some of the UK's best cities. If you want to see all the highlights of a UK city and you're into murder mysteries and escape rooms, these are for you. Perfect whether on a weekend getaway with family, friends, stags, hens, etc. Tom quit his job three years ago to focus solely on his killer trails, and he's poured his heart into making these unforgettable experiences. he even gives a percentage of the profit to children in need because he's a legend can find the trails on insta at killer trails or or killertrails.co.uk thanks to the lols lucy in hampshire nice oh i'm just looking at these backpacks they've got a well good bit on it where you know when you have your little wheelie case if you're traveling a lot yeah it's got a little strap across so you can just put the backpack on that oh lovely lovely lovely stuff anyway good luck everyone.

51:24Josh, I'll speak to you soon. Have a brilliant holiday. Have a nice rest. I'll let you know how it went. Oh, please do.

51:30Josh Widdicombe:I will. I'll see you soon. Bye. Bye.

51:38Josh Widdicombe:Spring just slid into your DMs. Grab that boho look for that rooftop dinner, those sandals that can keep up with you, and hang some string lights to give your patio a glow up. Spring's calling. Ross, work your magic.

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