S12 EP46: Laura Smyth (The Return)

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3:25Good morning, Michael, Rob and Josh. Here's my daughter, Mabel, just turned two, having a go at your names in the intro. Arguably, I should have waited for a time when she didn't have hiccups. Incorrect. Highlight. Best for mums. I'm an OG listener. The podcast started at the same time I was making peace with the idea I'd never be a mother. after a very difficult couple of years. So sending this in is something of a full circle moment for me. Not only am I a mother, after all, but I'm mother to one of those adorable toddlers that can't pronounce Widdicombe. Thank you for making this wild and wonderful journey to parenthood feel normal and achievable.

3:57Stay sexually relatable, Rebecca. 433 months. I do miss my kids not being able to talk properly. Yeah. Was, were we? Yeah, my son still has words, which he just... it's too hot in here there's a voice from the back that says take your jacket off you little pervert and my top go tops off if you want you keep doing that quite a lot and I saw you dressed as a Chippendale on your other podcast are you alright? I'm tired the heat has hit me we are recording this in the heatwave in London and the aircon's broken and it is about a thousand it feels like some sort of nuclear shelter fuck my fucking life but we're going to put a good shift in oh Josh I've got something we do because we know because it's Laura Smith and it's a great interview and we've done it already you know when we said we didn't know what to do when we're walking along late at night and there's a lady and we don't want them to feel intimidated there's actually a campaign we got sent this by Poppy Murray yep and it's called blads.co.uk blads is an awareness and safety campaign which provides practical advice to men for steps they can take to help women feel safer when they're walking alone exactly what we're looking for so everyone has the right to walk alone safely.

5:08Here we go. So, B Lads is basically, is an acronym. Yeah, I suppose it is, yeah. The B is a word, or a sort of... No, I never know. I think an acronym is where it's like BBC, but if it's like NASA, where it becomes a word in itself, I don't think it's an acronym. I think it's a different thing. What is that, Michael? Do you know what I mean? I'm going to check. He's checking. It's two up. It's two up. Anyway, B Visible. Yeah. Isn't that the problem, though? Well, no, because someone's more intimidating if you can't see who they are. So don't be, like, hidden. Okay. Ease attention by making a phone call.

5:44Yeah. Hi, just on the way home. Maybe make up a nice, normal, family-friendly phone call. Yeah. L for the lads bit. Look away. Don't stare. Yeah. A, active bystander. I don't know what that means. Well, just be active. Distance yourself. Yeah, I think that's fair. S, suggest walking your friend home. I don't know what to actually do, though, still. well let me give you an example okay so I'll play that out with you okay play with me okay so you're walking home be visible so well it's slightly weird for you because you live in country lanes right yeah and I'm famous well yeah alright fucking hell big shot no but I just think like it's weird in itself I feel like I feel like I think it diffuses the situation instantly I think it might help maybe you should stick that at the end be famous it will help if past if past but a certain type of famous is that the bloke of like not a weird famous be visible so basically so let me give you an example let me give you an example you're walking behind someone yeah how close am I too close too close drop back or whatever the one was that meant drop back distance yourself distance yourself so don't be too close got ya so you drop back why not go more in the light don't walk on say the dark bit of the pavement or maybe walk cross the road to the other side away from the exactly under the light rather than in the dark bit exactly got ya make a phone call to Lou and just be like normal friendly person well no no make a phone call so don't say the normal things I say to Lou because I might be a bit fruity pretend that you've got like a lovely relationship like that so I'll pretend I've got a normal relationship phone up Lou and go hi Lou what's for dinner what do you mean what's for dinner I've been over the no don't know Lou I'm trying to make a lady feel safe let's not argue about what's in the fridge

7:36I'm not I know it's sort of like trad wife vibes but I'm just trying to act like a sort of a normal friendly non-threatening husband because I'm happily married and look away don't stare because I think sometimes sort of looking and smiling to go I'm friendly if anything that's weirder so just don't look away don't look at them very good there we go we've done it there you go and also be famous because maybe if I'm walking down a country lane and there's a lady there and I'm you know I'm trying to keep my distance and she's like you were back off the telly can I have a photo I'm like I can't I'm keeping my distance I'm keeping my distance and I'm easing the tension by making a call yeah exactly but that's good be visible ease the tension by making a phone call look away don't stare active bystander don't know what that means no do you think do you think that they went with B lads first and then worked backwards from there do you find that weird that kind of thing if it was just you and someone else would you acknowledge that you were Rob Beckett would you go look it's fine look guys it's Rob Beckett here off the TV you're absolutely fine I don't think that would help I'm just going to do what the campaign says yeah I think that's correct I think that's but one of them makes sense to me Poppy if you want to email in again active bystander I don't know what that means I suppose it's like being from active bystander is that if you see it happening you can intervene oh maybe so that's what we're going to do yeah that was useful genuinely useful yeah making a phone call but then I'd panic about what I'd say or do I have an actual real phone call?

9:03I barely make phone calls these days. No. Yeah, but I think you should in this instance make someone feel safer. Particularly at 10pm. If I phoned Rose, she'd be like, are you fucking kidding? I'm asleep. If I was walking down the street alone at 10pm and you and your voice started chirping in on a phone call, I'd be like, what's that? It's good to talk. Well, if you like it, it's good to talk. We've got some Bob Hoskins references coming up. God, that's almost like we filmed this after we did this. Exactly, yeah. At the end of you. Yeah. Might ring my mum about her doctor in a minute. Yeah. Here's Laura Smith.

9:34Laura hello oh hello I'm very well how are you guys good is that Chanel necklace it's fake Chanel all I do is wear fake Chanel because I know my roots people just assume it's real on you yeah she's like do you know what fair play she's just absolutely living it now a few years since we interviewed she's got a fucking Chanel necklace where'd you get your fake Chanel from well it's a little boutique in Ireland just do Kilkenny Comedy Festival but I've got another couple of Chanel's that I just found in a boot sale and I've got a fake Chanel handbag that I bought in a really good one though that I bought in Istanbul I love it when people say really good ones like in Dubai you can get fake watches but they're good ones well what I mean is it's real leather there's some that look like plastic same price yeah yeah yeah it's like it's same price yeah but you are when I have that Chanel handbag it started to get a bit tarnished you get treated well in Chanel when you're there at Heathrow Airport.

10:28They say you're a serious punter, even though you ain't got the price of a flip-flop in there. And that necklace, does that exist as a necklace you can buy? Ish. Ish. I can't believe you've picked up on it. I don't know why. We all wear a Chanel pearl necklace. Can't believe you've picked up on this thing that's the most centre point of my outfit. Can't believe you've picked up on a deliberate outfit choice. Are you wearing the world's number one pod? Is that what it is? The world's number one comedy podcast, don't we? Wow. That's a rumour. You're on it. You're part of it. Go on. Let's get sensible.

11:00Would you ever get to a point where you would stop buying fake Chanel and start buying Chanel? Yeah. What point would that be? I'll have to buy a proper house first. I don't think you can justify... No, I think you have to buy a house before you start buying Chanel. That's it. You can't justify an eight grand handbag or a couple of grand necklace unless you actually own bricks and mortar. And is there anything you can never imagine justifying in the way that I don't think I could ever be rich enough to use stuff in a minibar so you still never have it I still just can't do it to myself psychologically principle I psychologically can afford that Kit Kat of course you can but not yeah but you know it's an inflated price and it's something in me I'll play inflated prices on other things that I'm just like oh that's fine I can afford that petrol and the services exactly but is that more yeah water at an airport.

11:56Oh, water at an airport is men... I was coming back the other day, right? Through Tenerife, right? And I'm there with the producers. We need some water for the flight because it's four and a half hours. It's an absolute liberty, right? Just too much. Anyway, I go in the Pret at Tenerife Airport right by the gate. Grab four waters. Guess how much? 27 euro. She's really going. She's really going. It was 15 euros. Why have you done that? Four waters? Why have you done that? Three waters. We're not going to be the top fucking podcast now, are we? Five euros for a bottle of water is mental, isn't it?

12:22Okay, then I actually went lower. I thought you said four waters. Sorry, okay. I guessed£4.50. Let's just forget that happened. Oh, no. I actually went under. It's a shame, isn't it? I thought you had four waters. Yeah. Right? So what do you think? Seven or eight euros per? How much is 20... No, I've gone wrong. Euros and pounds are what I'm saying these days. Let's not do this. Five euros of water? That's more like it. There's your edit point. There's your edit point. Snip, snip. But yeah, that's very overinflated. Mini bars, water and air pool, service petrol. sweets at a cinema would you do that yeah you've got they've got to be in a similar character you know what because I had a 10 my daughter was 10 when I met my now husband yeah and he was a young single man then he went to the cinema for the first time as a sort of family unit yeah he still talks about how expensive he was how he's not financially recovered but he was sort of trying to impress well it was yeah he was like oh yeah sorry look I know we've interviewed you before but it was on Zoom can we have a recap can we do a recap for me or our pretend listeners but for me and you know sort of the whole sort of set up of children husband like you know they do it at the start of a drama yeah yeah just quick cut just a bit of exposition I was confident I'd interviewed you before but I wasn't 100 % you've done a lot of podcasts mate you've met a lot of parents and I've met you so the point is do you know when you're like have you interviewed that person it's like if it's someone I've never met I'm more likely to remember it it's a different energy in person than on zoom it is that so it feels like I'm meeting a new person and I know I've interviewed before they still recovered i know i interviewed you i just forgot but there's also that thing of you two i just before i met you i was like oh yeah i know you i've done seen you stand up like yeah if i saw you on the street i'd be like josh you'd be like yeah people are like that yeah yeah it's nice isn't it lovely no i've just got enough profile this is my profile it's just a narrow end of the eyes where they go oh i sort of recognize oh yeah yeah i don't know you from Is that Chanel?

14:13Yeah. No. So, the family... Has he got a fake name? Like when I used to buy Ray-Bans from the markets in Spain? Roy Bins. Or is it still Chanel? I've got a George Armani watch now. I've just got a Cassiopeia. I used to sell fake Burberry scarves on Manchester Christmas market. Yeah, I think you've told us on this podcast four times. Cashmink. Cashmink. Instead of cashmere. Yeah. Cashmink. It's a capital Belarus, isn't it? recap on you children me parent in hell I have my oldest child is 23 had her when I was 20 so she's 23 now and then I when she was about 13 I had the next one Bonnie Smith I've got 10 year olds and an 8 year old so two daughters then a son yes two daughters and a son and then you met your now partner when your eldest was about 10 which is funny because now my Bonnie's 10 so it's a little bit funny going aww so you fancy a new one oh no thanks every 10 years you get a new fella just churn them out yeah i think like i think three baby fathers would really go in my fake chanel necklace actually i think it's a great for a new tour what's the 23 year old up to she's quite nice she's all right okay that wasn't a question no no she's all right she's she's in the middle of a degree she went she she did her a levels during covid so she didn't really want to go straight to degree it's a bit of a weird time bit of a rest of development if i'm honest I think they're all finding their feats from then and so she's in the middle of a degree interior spatial design I'm basically that mum now you know when your mum could never say the right brand name Yes your degree I don't know that and so I always get it wrong She's doing something it's not interior design.

15:49No, it's interior. It's all more architectural Architect she's just an arrow she's new ah she's How's that as a parent how involved like so fucking involved Laura doesn't even know what it's called. I know, but you can still be involved. What her degree is. You know, I am involved. I wouldn't say you're overly involved in your daughter's life if you don't even know what she's studying. I do, but I don't ever get the name. It's interior spatial design at University Arts London, all right? There we go. And then she's got a little nannying job, and then she works at a little local bakery, pillar of the community.

16:23She's all right. The girls, she's all right. She sounds very sensible. Do you think about every day you, like, worrying or you... Oh, it's worse. No. Worse when they're older. I bet your mum and dad worry about you more now I'm going to say about my mum and dad No

16:43I'll give you a quick recap of what my mum and dad recently I finished filming something a bit earlier than planned I'm home for a few days I'm busy this week fair enough, no worries then the next week I went, I'll come down and see you on Monday after the kids, then I rung her back over an hour later and went, it's bank holiday Monday I'm not going to do it it'll be mental down in Margate I'll come later in the week but if you want you can come up and see me we're not seeing each other for about 3-4 weeks come to my bank holiday Monday nah we're busy anyway I was supposed to go and see him on the Friday then my flight back from filming got in at 3am from Tenerife I went I'm going to be too tired I can't do the driving there and back the next day come up if you want nah we're alright so I wouldn't say they're overly worried not overly worried they're letting me crack on I just think in your 20s you're a bit weird I see a lot of you on TV they know what you're up to they know what I'm doing they get the chalk but 23's different I'm boring and safe pair of hands adult now 23's the anomaly isn't it are your kids a pool for them though I mean that's the only way you have contact my mum will like well I don't think my mum would bother seeing me she likes my kids yeah no the kids have to be an absolute guarantee that they're there for them to come no interest when it's just you also though if the kids weren't there just me and my mum and dad how much do you want to see them am I desperate for that three way chat nah you're not desperate for that three way are you Rob I sit there and hear about like what their mate down the road's been up to what the doctor's doing my mum like it's word association with my mum like you know I don't know if she's always been like this but you know when she'll ask you about something and then you say something and it just sparks something in her like how was the hospital oh yeah it was alright couldn't find parking oh I couldn't in Ilford now we're just talking about her trip to Ilford that's what we're talking about yeah so she asked you how the hospital was and you said there was bad parking then she's on her own story about parking it's just a word association Is that all old people?

18:31Is it? It's all us on this podcast, to be fair. True, yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's a podcast. Yeah, but at least you can choose to listen to this. Do you know what I mean? It's like you can't just sort of say to your mum, I'm not really feeling the podcast this week, phone down, you know what I mean? Your mum seems to be able to say it to you. I'm on Monday. My famous son and his beautiful kids. No, we're busy. We're busy. I wouldn't mind, do you know what they said the other day? What were they busy with? Do they give you specifics? You will never guess in a million years, I'm going to tell you. 27 euros.

19:06They went down to the local pub. Shut up your arse. They went down to the local pub, to the function room, to watch their GP play drums in a band. What's their GP? Oh, their doctor. Fucking hell. What? That's the only way you can get to see your GP. Oh, there we go. Lovely stuff. I bet your dad was bending over for a prostate exam with a drumstick. the thing is when you get to that age you can get in the GPs whenever you want it's like an open door policy over 80 I bet he was fucking gutted to see them no they invited him down he didn't mean it he just was trying to get him out of the room yeah but then they've gone there over seeing me can you play the drums I can't play the drums what's his band do they give you any more specifics on his band no but he also edits video because he's offered to edit my stand up tour shows they're cheap and I think he does magic personally I wouldn't have him as me doctor no offence to him but there's too many other things he's into what are you Miss Rabbit in Peppa Pig just have one job what I want from my doctor someone that's into medicine not playing drums someone that's got a book on funny moles by the way before I tell you your test results shall I ring my mum and ask her about this doctor and what she's into it'd be nice to catch up with her I don't want to be a bit of a knob but you know that kind of like you're Rob Beckett you know people know you you're off to telly yeah this idea that is presumably he's a professional doctor amateur videographer yeah this idea it's like if he needs anyone to do his stand-up videos you're like I think my age I think my team have got that covered I do think if I rang up my agent and said um don't worry about the editor my mum and dad has sorted me out a videographer from Margot he's currently a jeeper i've requested an appointment to do the editing someone's gonna bring me back in three weeks you don't want to be a friend sometimes it's like my mate went the other day like a mum oh we're doing like the local little street festival that's in the summer time um we've got a bit of budget and then they went just a little bit if you want to do like 40 minutes 40 minutes on a street in my local area i thought you don't want to be that guy that goes there's There's not enough budget in the world.

21:21There's not enough budget in the world. 40 minutes is so... Even if you'd get paid to do a big cabaret, end of a night set at a big awards do, it's 20 to 30 max. It's just kids running around with bubbles that are friends with my kids. What do I want to talk about? I'll quickly run around and find out what... When are you doing it? No, work's work, innit? She's busy. Well, she's actually getting the kids in an hour because... She's going to think there's something wrong with the kids. She ain't bothered about you, Rob. She's not good, does she? New number, who dis?

21:54okay and that's she'll call back yeah that's summed up she might not have a relationship with your mum there lovely what are you looking at your texts with her now now i'm paranoid that she's never asked me and i only ask her to meet up you've got in my head no i have got in your head you said so do you ask your daughter to meet up your 23 year old or is she coming to you no yeah she'll come to me we do we do nice things she's she's sort of done that sort of transition where she's got a bit of a flatmate and then it's a little bit you know that first realization in the world you're sort of full of confidence then you realize oh all of my confidence is based on rolling my eyes at my parents now i'm out in the world maybe they do know a thing or two about the washing machine and paying bills do you know what i mean so i'm trying to make sure because i've got the little ones i've realized she does suffer from that so i've done little things like i took her to morocco for a little spa break i'm just trying to have the i try and have one-on-one time with my kids I think that's important even when they the younger ones separate as well like they really come out of them shell and they operate as an individual not a pair it's nice we call it divide and conquer me and my husband with a little one sometimes we look at you I'll take that and then also yeah oh I didn't know yeah they come to life today the little one for the day yeah and then you got them in the front yeah I think they're so really nice how many you got again two how old today again eight and five okay that's cute

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25:41You're doing Hammersmith Apollo? I am doing Hammersmith Apollo. When are you doing Hammersmith Apollo? I'm doing it on the 7th of November. My Bull Nagy tour. Yeah. So it's really nice. Are you filming it? I might film it. Which is a con idea. Yeah. Can I have that GP's number? I'll send you the quacks. I'll phone him at 8am. I'll send you the quacks digits.

26:03Thank God I've got an edit. This is so bizarre. I am doing... Well, do you know what? I had such an amazing first tour. It went from 20 dates to nearly 50. I ended up doing Hackney Empire, Indigo... Well, I did Leicester Square Theatre, then Hackney Empire, then Indigo. Did you do any dates outside London? No, I didn't. No, because London just sold. So we just thought, let's just go big with Hammersmith and Bollow. Yeah. And it's getting there, man. It's nearly sold out. Oh, wow. Amazing. You know when you do a big gig? do you have this with your mates? Obviously I'm going up and down the country and Ireland, but when they go, are you going to do another date because there's only the balcony left?

26:34Meaning you just didn't buy tickets. You know, you're like, just, buy the bloody balcony now. There's 50 % left on the balcony, just buy it. What's your guest list policy? Because I think when you are from similar backgrounds to you and me, the guest list can get slightly out of hand. Yeah, it was like. Because no one wants to come and see me. I hate people I know coming. I know, I'm talking about you, not to you. Do you know what I hate? texts from people who are coming asking for details they could find out on the website. Do you know what? And it never stops. But it's not even people you know.

27:05Catherine Ryan posts all the time where people are sitting in her DMs about, what time does it start? Have I got time to get a curry? You're like, mate, I'm doing a big show here. Yeah, or like, what time is it finished? I'll get back for the babysitter. Is there a break? Or should I get more drinks? You fucking... Look on the website. I'm famous, guys. When I was on Twitter once, I replied, I said, normally done at about a quarter to ten and then because i'd replied that gig was running late i'm on there going they're gonna be livid with me i know yeah how did he get cancelled robbie guy he was 15 minutes out on a time prediction i am yeah twitter's the wild west so when does the tour start right it starts end of september um loads of dates are sold out um loads of dates why are you here then oh no no no no because london ain't just for a catch-up just to be called barry fry Bob Hoskins.

27:51It's good to talk. See? It's like he was in the room. I don't know where I pulled that from. I forgot that existed. It's good to talk. All of his stuff he's done. What a brilliant actor. And he's boiled down to... Yeah. That and Super Mario. Was he in Super Mario? He was. He was in the Mario Brothers film, wasn't he? Oh, yeah. Josh has a sort of forensic memory of about seven years in the 90s. I wouldn't be able to tell you any of the big films he did. Longer Friday Josh want me to tell you One film that's been released this year But we can tell you About the cold cast Of Super Mario I think Super Mario Was that this year The film released this year The ping pong one With Timothee Chalamet Mighty Supreme Well I watched that On a plane about two months ago So I imagine that was last year Mighty Supreme I need to watch that Anyway Anyway back to the store Yeah it's called Bull Nagy Yeah good Great name I had the idea Of a different name And then I did a really Early work in progress In Southend Yeah And this woman on the back row debbie it was hilarious you know how people are just so funny uh and this is what she went oh and oh you know i'm just aggie she went oh i was born aggie and i was like oh that's it that is it and then she was so funny i started talking about my dog and all that being my oh yeah honestly my dog's my favorite child and two young women next to her went mom so yeah born aggie it just sort of sums it up i think the first tool was called living my best life it was very like celebratory you know i'd been through um treatment after i was you know breast cancer and all that it was very like just ain't life grand but of course you can't stay in eight life grand no you get very hippy dippy and trippy and you do all the work and you're like oh i'm still here and everything still gets you get used to it you get used to being better yeah you forget when you were jaded yeah you're jaded with your good health yeah you're jaded with recovering from cancer I do love that that is how working-class people deal with something so horrendous you've sat on a podcast about you know as you got over the audio surviving cancer thing and then moved on we're like as a middle-class person sit there again and then you know just break hands of slight you know I know well this is I know keep it like it does worry me the things that just you can laugh at but you know I mean like nothing's that deep you know Did you find it helped you?

30:10Recovering. What, laughing? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Just have a go. No, but did it or not? You know, is that a fallacy? Of course. Yeah, no, of course. Obviously the medicine helped as well. Yeah, yeah, chemo helped. Chemo had a bad hand. If you had to lose one of them, which would you have chosen? Chemo or laughing? But I didn't carry... Right, oh God, I'm going to get into it now. Right, I'm going to be sensible. Three and a half minutes. Okay, go. What I thought... Right, I swear. Come on. What I thought... God, I'll get you out. I just thought I don't want to carry any heaviness anymore. Do you know what I mean?

30:43When you get ill, when you help. I do think quite holistically in that respect. Like I say, yeah, like Rob says, chemo helped. But it is about like, I just quit teaching to do comedy full time. Yeah. And there's this weird thing in comedy where, you know, you've run off and joined the circus, didn't you? It's very freeing. And then all of a sudden you've got agents and PR teams and you're trying to get on Mock the Week and trying to get on this and trying to get that. You go, hang on, this just feels like any other career now. Yeah. So it made me become very present and actually just be in the now and enjoy things and stop wanting for stuff.

31:16I don't kind of want for nothing. Do you know, like, as in, I don't want for nothing. And don't, like, I don't, I don't subscribe to all this manifestation stuff. I think it keeps you in the future. I'm very much like now and, and can just, I'm just lighter on myself. Do you know what I mean? I forgive myself easily. I hold myself in a bit more lightness and all that. But that said, I do accept who I am and I'm bull naggy and I do get the ugly shit, so do you talk about big issues or small issues? I like small issues. Yeah, that's what I like. That's what I like. Do you like small issues? I like small issues.

31:52I like small issues. Yeah, I like small issues. Sometimes I think, do I want to do a big issue? And then I think, I don't want to do a big issue. I don't want to do a big issue. I don't talk about big issues in my day-to-day life. No. Why would I do it on stage? And I think that actually, and I think there's a lot of comedy reviewers that don't understand this, comedy reviewers like big issues because then they can attach their brains to them, intellectualise them, be academic. What they don't realise is how much can be said with small issues and distilled jokes where you've hid the work in. It's not like a long equation where you show the work in.

32:23So you're doing big issues with little issues? I think I do do big issues with little issues. You're tricking people into consuming big issues against their will? Well, for instance, right, I'll talk about mental health. Yeah, big issue. Big issue. But I'll do it in a little issue kind of way. Oh, here we go. Where I talk about, like, the thing is that everyone's got mental health now. And I'll contextualise that in sort of the fact that we're all staring at our phones. Yeah, yeah. I'm totally addicted to my phone. We're addicted to our phones. We're anxious. I'm working on a joke at the minute.

32:49But just that, like, they're almost bombarded by, like, I see my 23-year-old. She's almost like decision paralysis. There's too much in the world that they're exposed to. i'm saying we it's not that we didn't have aspirations of course we did we had the argos catalogue but the internet is my kind of reference the internet is too much argos catalog yeah so i didn't see an avocado till i was 27. that's what i'm saying you didn't see an avocado just didn't happen so there you go you didn't see an avocado till you're 27. that tells me everything that is the bit you don't have to go into the woes of working class middle class or you know indulgence or have i just addressed a big issue of a little issue yeah i think you have you know click that Michael yeah send it somewhere give me the small issues that fans on Michael is that alright cool that was just that was just that was a small issue that was just a small issue for the potential recording but no bigger issue but I've heard that you moan about all your fans yeah you don't talk about the horrors of the war you talk about a child's charred shoe do you know I mean like you Oh, here we go.

33:53Big issues, little issues. That's what I say. Little shoes. No, I think they're two big issues. Little shoe, big issue. A child's charge shoe. That's what I'm saying. That's a big issue. Yeah, it is a big issue. But not a little issue. It's a little thing. It's not the same as me not seeing an avocado. I like little things. You like little things. Stop flirting with Josh. My favourite thing right here. Little ones I like. I like the... How tall is your husband? Five foot eleven. But he looks little. but he's big. How tall are you? He's lying to you. I'm five foot six and three quarters. Why are you bringing it up?

34:27I'm taller than you. You are. What are you? Are you taller than five foot six? Well, let's have a look. Oh, let's not do it. Oh, don't make me. Go on, go on. You did it back to back. Do you want to do it back to back? Let's do it back to back. We're all friends. There we go. We'll do it back to back. Yeah, I don't know where it's best to do it. Right, yeah. Turn around. There we go. We got, let me have a quick look. There we go. we've got your five at seven Josh here we go five for six and three quarters I say just a quarter inch under him yeah I've had you down five I've had you down as five foot six Josh yeah lifts the legs could barely fit them under the table what was it eight and ten the kids yes yes yes yes so you still call them the little ones whereas eight and ten feels so old to me and Rob it does how old yours eight and ten that's lovely but you're not in the business end anymore i think they're nice they're quite it's sort of having a little mate that's not been corrupted by teenagers it's the sweet spot and this is why i'm never ever going to own a house or real chanel because my oldest is 23 i've done the teenage years already so i know five six seven eight nine ten they're just a joy to do things with yeah they're a joy the two-year-old three-year-old I'm in that moment and I'm really enjoying it and I'm like, it's hard.