S12 EP51: The Ransom Is My Ego

20:01I think that's fine. It's just a little bit of beef. I think that's fine. How is it B? So, yeah, in answer to your question, I'd be absolutely fine with my daughter absolutely loving meedo instead of nidos. Okay. How would you feel about your son absolutely loving megaphone, the Spotify podcast RSS link system?

20:25Josh Widdicombe:well it'd be good for me because obviously i've got an in so i could probably show him around the offices i reckon do you reckon i can get it yeah because there'll probably be a few megaphone branded like notepads pens yeah exactly around the offices yeah i'll probably get him a meet and greet with rory stewart he'd be stood on a corner doing an interview um what's positive about it is in the future, if he continues with this, an interest in new media is excellent for a future career. I'd argue that if my daughter was obsessed with Mido, the ex-Egyptian Tottenham Roma footballer, apart from having a great hobby, I don't know what's bringing it.

21:04I'd say megaphone's your best option. Can I say? I think you're going to throw it out as a feature.

21:12Josh Widdicombe:What is the weirdest, nichest thing your child's become obsessed with? Well, that and also if anyone from Megaphone or Meedo's offices are listening, we'd love a Meedo shirt if you've got one. And we'd love any Megaphone, the podcast hosting platform that Spotify use. Yeah. Can I also add on that? Since the last episode, DHL have got in touch with me. Oh, brilliant. You remember this, my son being into DHL. Yes, he's obsessed with it. DHL have been in touch and they've offered for them to deliver some DHL toys to him in a DHL van that he can then have a look around. Ah, well, I mean, it would be absolutely mental for them to deliver it not in a DHL van.

21:58Yeah. You should write down, can Yodon send it?

22:01Josh Widdicombe:I can't believe I'm saying this about a DHL, some DHL toys in a DHL van. you worry about him being spoiled by getting all of his dreams when he's five i mean nepotism is a big thing and you can't you know this boy's got to live his life and realize not every day's like this exactly but before you know it before you know it you've got a brooklyn beckham situation on your hands exactly he's doing a doordash advert

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23:05Josh Widdicombe:You don't want it to be going to your kid. Oh, this is important. You want them to be enjoying their life, right? Well, when I got my daughter that hot chocolate, she had like a white jumper on and was driving along. I was like, I have some hot chocolate if you want. And I was like, she's definitely going to spill that on a jumper. But I'm like, do you want to be the dad that's like, take the jumper off, put it to the side because you might spill it, drink it. No, just let her learn. Let her dribble down the top. We can wash it when you get home. Exactly, because that stain, Rob, says I'm having a fun time.

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25:09Anyway. How did we get onto that? How's your parenting week been, Rob? Do you know what? Very busy with parenting, actually. Loads have been going on. I did two days in a row at Bromley Glades. Oh, my word. Oh, was your school closed due to heat? So we were all smug last time I was on air saying hours are still open. An hour after recording, we got the email there. Your children can still come to school. However, if you didn't want to send them in, it wouldn't go down as an unauthorised absence.

25:41Josh Widdicombe:They're going in. No, well, not the first day, because you can't be the parent that goes, wow, it's a day off from the heat wave. And we've just got a big paddling. Also, I've got a paddling. I've got a big pool, but not a big pool. A paddling pool. I basically impulse pool, 500 quid, massive 12-foot pad. Do you know what? Pound for pound, a better investment than the walking pad. A hundred percent, yeah. Just so you know, Lou, if Lou hasn't already sent a voicemail about this, defending herself, she will when she hears this podcast drop, and I'll feel bad. She's at sports day and I can't do sports day.

26:20Josh Widdicombe:She'll have got to this point. Why can't you do sports day? Are you working? I'm doing this for you now. We could have moved it. We couldn't. I'm too busy. Michael's in America. And then I'm going to work. I'm going to America tomorrow for work. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, you're doing... With Gary Lippica. You were going to do the rest of his football. We got a paddling... I can't remember what I was talking about. You got a paddling pool? It's not a paddling pool. It's bigger than a paddling pool, but it's not a swimming pool. It's like a massive, like, I can stand up to it and it goes over my nipples.

26:54That's a swimming pool. That's a swimming pool, I'd say. That's a temporary swimming pool. That's an above ground temporary pool, right? Yeah. Anyway, so I built it on a whim when it was really hot in May. And then the builders that do in the office. How long does it take to fill? It took ages. I did it before the hosepipe ban, before anyone comes to me. And how do you empty it? Well, you don't. You just leave water in it. and then but so this is what i didn't realize we it's got a filter on it so it's got to be plugged

27:22Josh Widdicombe:in what so now you've got a temporary so now you've just got a swimming pool forever that just happens basically until i stab it and all the water goes everywhere and floods the house but it's basically um yeah so now i've got to put chlorine in it so it's basically this is a swimming pool yeah i know but then also it was all right last week but if you want to use it you've got to buy a heater for it what then you've got to plug it in so it's like it's basically a swimming pool but i didn't really know what i was doing so now i've got a i've got to put chlorine in it and now lose all the thing to clean the bottom of it i was like we've bought a swimming pool by stealthy but you can't leave it in your garden forever this is the thing with swimming pools rob they aren't generally permanent yeah i know but i didn't i thought it was a paddling ball and it's massive yeah so what are you going to do with it at the end of the summer maybe I don't empty it and then fold it up.

28:13Josh Widdicombe:How are you going to empty it? It's a swimming pool of chlorinated water. Yeah, but you siphon it. You put a hosepipe in and suck on it and it all comes out. And then where are you going to pour it? In the garden. But it comes out slowly. So it's watering the plants. For two hours, you're going to water the plants? No, no, just leave it on the floor. It'll take about two days. It's 20 ,000 litres. Is it not going to ruin your lawn? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're going to have no grass with the swimming pool. You've got to have a ladder to get in it. It's bad. The kids love it. Did you buy a ladder?

28:46No, a ladder comes with it. Fucking hell. Did we just send you it? What was that sound? That was a plate on my table. Is that metal? No, no, no. That's like fabric, grey fabric, and then they're plastic tubes, and then you get a little ladder that goes in with it.

29:00Josh Widdicombe:That's so big. It looks like that swimming pool. I know. I didn't understand how big it was. When Bart breaks his leg in the Simpsons and then they get that swimming pool next door. Is that next door? It looks exactly like that one. Basically, I'm just going to stick chlorine in it, ride it out for the summer. And if it's a nightmare, get rid of it. It comes with a ladder. You can spend five. The kids have already had, I'd say, four days of mad fun in that. So pay per use at the moment. I'm not saying it's a waste of money. No, no, but I'm just saying... I'd say it's a good investment, but I'd say it's a mad thing to have in your garden.

29:40Josh Widdicombe:It's so weird. Yeah, yeah, it looks really rough and ready. I'd say I'm not a lose-knot, and I'm not a massive fan of the aesthetic at the moment. No. But the kids are loving it, and it's been hot. It's solar-powered. Well, it isn't. You've got a cover for it, but it heats up the first inch of water, and the rest of it's like minus 20. What are you reading, Mike Josh? Oh, we've got this home. I've just found there's this nightmare situation with um you know my daughter's broken her arm yeah so we've got we've got a holiday booked for july start of the summer holidays some summer i've been waiting to find out how this plays out i just saw that i'd got a text about it bit of a problem really rob bit of a nightmare we can either go to this swimming pool a holiday that is about swimming yeah yeah with my daughter with their arm in a cast yes not ideal total waste of money yeah yeah yeah pretty much yeah yeah could we move it to we've got these five days in august we can move it to it'll be because we've booked the holiday out at the start of the earliest we can do it in july not the start of july at the earliest we can do it in july to get the cheaper rate yes to move it to mid-august it's an extra two grand on flights so fuck that yes that's insane so then we went back and we said can we move it to next year they've said no you can't move it to next year so what about october what about october half term but i don't think the weather will be good enough will it it's a fucking nightmare i don't want to i don't want to spend all that extra money on a holiday it's already an expensive holiday well basically what they what they do with changing flights last minute flakes last minute is that they know that no one's doing it out of choice it's sort of like a situation like this so they just it's not even the flights that and it's totally understandable the hotel the reason we booked it when we did yeah is because then we didn't want to go in august because it's it's too expensive in august because it's a kid's summer holiday so if you go if you get that cheaper one just before if you take them out yeah exactly yeah so oh what would you do in that situation rob no i wouldn't change it to august i'd go i'd try and move it to october if they do that or it's not um just think of activities you can do that isn't oh but then you're paying you're slightly right if you're not paying the extra money for august you're like i'm already paying quite a lot of money for a bad holiday i'd do you know what i mean yeah you're like punishing yourself you're like you should really throw good money after bad to make this a good holiday what could you so say for example you're booking a holiday now and she's got a broken arm would you just not go on holiday do you think or would you try and find a different holiday i wouldn't go to a holiday which is all about the pool and she wouldn't be able to go on a theme park ride of a bad arm would she either they wouldn't let her on no but it's fine because we can do other holidays do you know what i mean in in august we could do a cheaper holiday in August.

32:50Josh Widdicombe:And you can't cancel it. Oh, Rob. Rob, Rob, Rob. That's not the news you wanted, is it? No. It's so much more. It's like a cost of holiday. Because you're adding it on to the holiday. Do you know what I mean? Do you know what I'd say, Josh, is I'd get one of the castings, because they're like 30 quid. They can go over the arm, and she might not be able to swim, but she's not Rebecca Adelant doing lengths. She's just going to be playing with toys and she'll get used to it, not even realise it. And then you can go in and out. She can still do sandcastles of her left arm or whatever, and that protects it.

33:29But would that, or, Rob, would it be better to do 25 degrees?

33:36Josh Widdicombe:In October. In October. I'd push to October, if you can, for the similar price. Average of 21 degrees? No. No, thank you. What's 21 degrees like? That is... You'll enjoy five to six hours of bright sunshine daily. Expect roughly five to six days of rainfall throughout the month. Fine. How long are you going for with this soon holiday? Oh, the water cools down. But that's the sea. That's the sea.

34:09How long is it? What to pack? Layers. It's five nights. Five nights. I think just go for it. Put the little arm thing on her. If it was two weeks and it was a big mega holiday somewhere, but like... Oh, Rob, it's so difficult, isn't it? I think get the cast thing for five nights. And because if it's... It'll be a novelty getting in the pool with it on. She'll probably find it quite funny and like it. And then by the time it's really annoying because you can't swim, swim, you're coming home anyway.

34:37Josh Widdicombe:Would you give it a run out in a pool over here? No, I'd give it a run out over there. So it's all or nothing on day one of the holiday. You don't want to go. It's too much money. It's going to cost too much money in August. You don't want to go there in October, I think. Go there. And also, there's like other things you can do with her. You don't like the sun and the water too much either. You could go on little day trips out and about. She doesn't want to go on day trips. We're not a day trip. We're not a day trip family, Rob. We are a holiday where we don't do stuff. I thought you'd be a bit more get bored of that.

35:13I want to be out and about.

35:14Josh Widdicombe:Fuck that. Really? We go on holiday to not do stuff. Right, okay. I don't want to go on a day trip. I don't want to go and see a historic fort. I don't want to... I thought that'd be right up your street. No. That's my day-to-day life, Rob. On holiday, you want to just kick back with a bucket of woo-woo juice and a sex on the beach. Well, if I'm lucky. Yeah, I think go with the arm cast cover. Okay. I think she'll find it funny. And she's at seven, eight. She's like, and it doesn't hurt her anymore, does it? No, I think it'll be fine. I think it'll be fine. I think we go beginning of July. And even if she has to just sit on the edge with it on and she's all playing with toys and stuff like that, I think.

35:56And there's other stuff you can do and mess about with. Yeah. You know, is it a right or left? It's a right, Rob. And that's her dominant hand.

36:04Josh Widdicombe:That's her dominant. Actually, she's proved to be very good with her left hand in terms of writing and drawing, surprisingly, don't they? Which is, you know, a good discovery. Yeah, ambidextrous. There's a positive spin on it. Also, you could spend all that extra money, get to August, and she could have an earache and not be allowed in the water anyway. You know what I mean? Here we go. No pun intended.

36:32Josh Widdicombe:Now, Rob, it is a special part of today's show. Summer shenanigans, and that's a good sound for summer shenanigans where we give our best advice for not just surviving but having an actual blast during the six week holidays and it's brought to you by monzo who with their free kids account are helping children become more independent with their money yeah drop my tips for the six weeks holiday go on hit me pace yourself yeah yeah it's long it's hot and it's hard sometimes it won't even be hot here's a little tip go on do not take your holiday if you're doing a holiday away yeah don't cash that in week one unless you you can save money you can save money because of your term date say sometimes kids have like earlier breakups so if you can fly on that date but then you're staring down the barrel of a five-weeker that's the equivalent of chesney hawks coming on opening with i am the one and only and then doing the rest of the set but when i saw chesney hawks He opened with it and closed with it.

37:35Josh Widdicombe:Exactly. If you can afford two holidays, have one at each end. We like to call that the Chesney. Yeah. Start with it and end with it. Or what other tips? Just never go camping ever. Yeah. That's not really a tip. That's sort of a personal mantra of mine. What do you do if you need to work and your kids are in the house during the summer holidays? I like to give them a little thing called a device. Yeah. Which is slightly frowned upon. but I wouldn't do it every day for six weeks. I watched a lot of TV in the summer, Rob. Yes, but I would say you watch too much TV. You've become completely obsessed by it.

38:10Your only knowledge base is an eight-year period where all you did was watch TV and you've since gone on to use that as reference points for a very good career in the media but also written a book about it. And I would say that's great because it's work for you but I would say you are the exception, not the rule.

38:24Josh Widdicombe:Yeah, okay, fair. Well, let me put it this way. There's a halfway house. What I would say... What's that, an INT's TV show? what i would say go and i'm liable for this yeah and rose has brought me in on it don't over plan the summer it is a holiday for them you can't just back to back to back to back stuff because you're worried about them being bored yeah sometimes kids have to find their own entertainment experience buffer we need buffer or me and you're the worst for no buffer here's another tip rob go on go on tip me off if you're looking for summer clubs yeah i started a whatsapp group with the parents of my daughter's friends and said what summer clubs is everyone doing so that then they're much easier to sell to your child when you go your friends are already doing yes yes yeah i would say kids are more interested in what their friends are doing than what the actual content of the club is look what the friends are doing and then offer that to your kids that would be my tip the other good thing to do is this is a tip that um we've done before find friends with the kids and then if there's four of you you can almost split a week up where you go like i'll take wednesday off and have all the kids with me on wednesday and have a day with them and then if the other two or three people take the thursday or the tuesday or the friday off and then the same four kids just get moved around from house to house perfect that's a good system what about days out rob what's your stance your stance on days out i'm a big fan of the old trip to the seaside fish and chips on the coast but then it's difficult the british seaside because you want it warm but you don't want it too hot yeah yeah you don't want a 30 degree or in dim church what you don't want rob is one of those days that's so hot that a picture of the beach you go to ends up on the tabloid newspaper with what a scorcher written on that the worst case scenario what you what you want is you go do you know what i'm not sure about the weather i'm going to take a jumper, but that jumper never gets worn.

40:19Yeah.

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42:09Oh, I tell you this, we've got a little bit of time on this one. I've got loads more to tell you. I've not really spoken about parenting for ages. So I went to go for a run around the park on Saturday. Yeah?

42:21Josh Widdicombe:Yeah. Get there. Quite a few people. There's always fun runs or stuff going on at the weekends. Park run? Well, I didn't know about park run. I didn't know about park run? Where have you been living? Under a bloody rock? Yeah, but I didn't know park run was a thing. I just, there's always different fun runs for kids, for adults at the park, right? Anyway, so I'm there, loads of people. We get there about half. It's starting in one minute, park run. It's brilliant. So what time does it normally start? 9am. So I get there with my mate and we go for a run. And I've never run with anyone before and I was a bit scared.

42:55No, it's not for me. But he was very kind and slowed down and just went at my pace. but we did i did 5k in 32 minutes solid very good very good yeah thank you you're my sort of resident cover star of running anyway of course so we do that and i'm following him along i didn't know about park run we get there at 9 30 so there's a few people about but not like the record rob that

43:19Josh Widdicombe:would put you just below medium on a park run medium just below medium okay but i didn't get there at the start time i got there at half nine so most people have finished or whatever so i didn't know what's going on i thought it was like a fun run and then um i'm running around there's a lady like high vis just stood there she goes uh and this is i don't know i didn't know what part run was she goes part you're doing a part run and i went yeah oh no yeah she went what i went yeah yeah i'm doing a park and i'm like yeah yeah obviously yeah exactly like what why is she asking this is like you know it's like i was walking up so are you breathing yeah yeah yeah and i went yeah yeah and she went are you there or not i went yeah i'm in a park running oh yeah good one i was like what it's usually much friendlier than that Yeah, I know.

44:17Josh Widdicombe:It's famously inclusive and friendly. Absolutely. But I think I imagine she might be, might get a little stick of people that just run and don't want to do a park run kind of thing, right? I'm oblivious of this. So now she's up in my grove. So what time is this? People finishing at this point? This is like 9.45 because I'm 15, 20 minutes in. The slow coaches are finishing. Yeah, so she probably wanted to get going. She's probably looking for the last person. Yeah. So she can go, right? Yeah, pack up the odds. She's stood. The way I run is literally just a loop, right? The only other way to go is the main road or you stay in the park.

44:57And she's like, this way. I'm like, there's no other way. If you got lost on that park run, you should not be allowed out of the house on your own. If any park run didn't need a marshal, right? People love marshalling at their own. They do. And then she was like, yeah, goodbye. one i was like no i wasn't trying to be funny anyway so i do that go in a cafe then this happens right and this is the same and i don't want to look needy but i feel like i had that woman that told me i would have run it before someone's snagging me off for me new shoes i had a bit of back and forth apart run lady now i'm in a cafe with my mate um on the hottest day of the year i had porridge trying to be healthy never been so hot in my life i'd run a 5k and started eating porridge anyway so i'm sat there and uh and at the end of my run with him i sprinted i went oh let's just sprint the last and i was really out of breath at the end i was really happy myself fastest one I've ever done.

45:45Anyway, so I'm in the cafe. This lady comes up to me and she goes, you need a personal trainer. Same woman? Different woman. Bloody hell. Now, in what world can you ever say that and it'd be the right thing to say? Yeah. That is one thing you can't say to anyone ever and it's not, there's no caveat there of what, because even if you, you know, if you think someone does.

46:08Josh Widdicombe:Maybe if you were in a gym and someone's technique was bad, you might go, do you know what? I think you need a personal trainer because you're going to do yourself an injury. Yeah, or they come in with, oh, and this happened to me before when I was trying to do pull-ups. He said, big muscle man went, oh, you're better off coming down slow and rather than just like pulling yourself up and dropping, come down slow because you work the arms on the way back and then you'll build up from there. And I was like, oh, thanks, mate. And then he could go, look, I do a bit of personal training. I've got more tips.

46:39you know yeah not that one's for conversation you need a personal trainer all right yeah that that one's for free but come on and i was like oh okay and then she went yeah i saw you running and being out of breath at the end and i was like surely you need you should need a person if you're not pushing yourself yeah if i weren't out of breath then i wouldn't i weren't pushing myself hard enough so i don't anyway so i was like all right she went yeah she went yeah we were watching you this is two ladies there and then i was like and i said well okay well next time you're exercising i'll watch you from afar then i'll come over with feedback yeah and then i said and then i'll see how long it takes you to ring the police yeah he's bit i've been i've bit big time right and i'll just give you a bit back right then she went yeah i used to be a personal trainer and now this lady i'd say was older than me yeah and i said oh no i regret it slightly but okay she went i used to be a personal trainer and i went well i can see you've retired whoa yeah yeah felt a bit mean because that's double that yeah let yourself go and you're old too there yeah i've done it with two and i and to be fair she did look older but she didn't look like she let self go which is annoying but yeah she's really really in really good shape actually but let's forget that i'm just going out for the age i was like yeah just fuck off and what did she say she was like ah what i think's happened there is she thought she was

48:03Josh Widdicombe:doing banter she misplaced it yeah and then she was doing banter before she knew it she was doing but bad banter bad banter didn't hit the mark i felt like saying who goes up to someone says you need a person i was like fuck off i'm trying my best i don't know much time i've run the fastest i've ever run i'm feeling really good don't tell me i need a personal trainer let me eat my porridge and the heat. You get me sweat into my oats, okay? Yeah. I don't go up to people, I don't hear conversations in the pub and go, oh, you need an anecdote, trainer, you boring ****. Yeah, yeah. You do that, don't you?

48:38Yeah, sometimes I do. I've seen you do that

48:40Josh Widdicombe:a couple of times. I don't say it, but my eyes tell the story and they go, yeah, yeah. Were you waiting for this set up when they added extra info you don't need yet? Yeah. Keep going, mate. Just give me the bug. Anyway, yeah, so I've got more parenting stuff to tell you, but I thought I wanted to get that off the chest beat. Do you know what I'll tell you about, Rob? Was I too harsh going in on it? But I just felt like... No, I don't think so. I didn't want to have a conversation. Do you want to hear a link to the next podcast? Did we cover all the stuff that we teased last time? No, I'm going to tell you about going to a running trainer.

49:13Yes. Okay, we'll do that next time. Yeah. Small business shout out? Yeah, why not? Oh, no, it's a word I can't say. Hello, I've been listening since the very first episode and love the podcast. Could you give a small business shout out to my girlfriend, Georgina, and her new venture, the Fave Palette. F-A-U-V-E. What's that? Fava? F-A-U-V-E. Fave? And then Palette. The Fave. Fave. The Fave. Fave. F-A-U-V-E. Fave. Palette. P-A-L-E-T-T-E. That's Palette. She's a qualified art teacher who is running a number of different fun and creative art workshops. She's a qualified art teacher who is running a number of different fun and creative art workshops for children and adults over the summer from Merton, Abbey Mills Market, covering Merton, Wimbledon, Streatham, Sutton, Kingston upon Thames.

50:11Her workshops are open to all school levels and focus on creativity, confidence, having a great time. She's updating the Instagram with more events. You can find her at the Favre. The shout-out would be amazing. It would mean the world to her. Thanks for all the laughs over the years. Thank you for the laughs. Oscar. Now, I literally, I know I'm dyslexic and I'm not a French speaker, but I just think that is a mental name of a business that I literally can't say out loud. Is it a me problem? The Ferv.

50:43Josh Widdicombe:Well, to be fair, she's got a lot out of us. Well, she has. We've said it a few times. But F-A-U-V-E, pallet. The FUV pallet. There you go. But good luck. Good luck. Hi, Rob, Josh, and Mike. Mike. I'd love to give a genuine shout out. He does not like being called Mike, and I don't know why. It's a brilliant local business. Three nines training. It's run by my son-in-law, Matt, who's also a serving firefighter. And what I love most is that his passion for safety doesn't stop when his shift ends. He gives his time freely at his local football club, inviting supporters to have a go on the CPR dummies and learn what to do in an emergency.

51:26Josh Widdicombe:He also visits schools, teaching children simple life-saving skills, building confidence from such a young age. For him, this isn't just a business. It's a real commitment to helping people feel capable and prepared, just like us, Rob. through three nines training uh he delivers high quality first aid and fire safety training across the southwest yes um bringing real life experiences a genuine passion for delivering life-saving skills that truly make a difference if your workplace needs training or you're due to refresh your certification visit three nine the words not the numbers three nines as in nine 99939straining.co.uk.

52:07Josh Widdicombe:So is that just the digital? No, it's not three nines. It's the word three and then the word nines training.co.uk. I'd say, like, I'm not into advertising and branding, but I think both of these could do a little tidy up. Three nines and fours. You'll be very safe hands. I don't want to be too brutally honest, but that is a red flag for me. And I think you're great guys and you've got great businesses here, but make it easy. Three, the word, nines. The words, training.co.uk. And Ferv, F-A-U-V-E, palette. The Ferv palette. What does Ferv mean? This is the way to get us to repeat it, though. Keep your podcast, keep up the great podcast, Alison.

52:45Ferv in English. Ferv. I mean, I've gigged and lived and know people from Streatham. Goodbye. I'll see you next week. Fawn. It's Fawn. Oh, fuck me. Bye. Goodbye. It's Fawn. What's Fawn? I don't even know what it is in fucking English.

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