In short
The hosts discuss parenting and work-life boundaries, especially how to fit touring and travel around young kids; they also recount a trip to Stockholm for a Spotify podcast conference, including a running “Sneaky Sasquatch” game with Louis Theroux, and talk about reducing social-media phone addiction (using a second “brick” phone).
Guests
Rob Beckett (comedian; Australian tours; touring plans; father of young children), Josh Wickham (comedian/TV personality; co-host), and Michael (appears as a third voice). Edward is a 3-year-old child who says their names at the start; Alice is his 7-year-old sister.
Key claims
Rob says he can’t stop himself from doing gigs/touring, but he’s setting “red lines” (not doing Saturdays; avoiding Sunday night resets). They argue that limiting phone access helps family presence without ending careers. At the Spotify event, they claim they used AI only once (an AI-made hamster image of Roberto De Zerbi).
Notable examples
“Sneaky Sasquatch” repeated around Louis Theroux in an airport/photo moment; Stockholm fika (pastry + chat); shoelace-length banter; AI example involving a De Zerbi hamster CCTV gag.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOListener's Story and Locations
2:25 to 3:02
A listener shares their parenting journey and suggests locations for Rob and Josh to visit.
Rob's Potential Tour Plans
3:02 to 4:04
Rob discusses his thoughts on touring and balancing work with family life.
“I think it's fair to say you would have hauled me over the coals.”
Touring and Family Time
4:04 to 4:54
Rob and Josh continue discussing the implications of touring on their family commitments.
“It doesn't feel that long ago that you were living on an industrial estate outside Coventry.”
Rob's Recent Work Schedule
4:54 to 6:30
Rob details his busy schedule and reflects on his working patterns.
“if I do a tour at the end of my flights.”
Tour Structure Discussion
6:30 to 8:00
Rob and Josh debate the structure and timing of future tours.
“It's the being away for weekends and evenings.”
Car Delivery Incident
8:00 to 9:10
A humorous anecdote about a car delivery while Rob is recording.
“So you're not going to do Saturdays and Sundays on this next tour?”
Awkward Delivery Story
9:10 to 11:20
Rob shares an embarrassing encounter during the car delivery.
“First of all, do you like my new backdrop?”
Trip to Stockholm
11:20 to 13:10
Rob and Josh discuss their experience at a Spotify conference in Stockholm.
“But I didn't realise that I got out there.”
Sneaky Sasquatch Game
13:10 to 14:00
They talk about a game that Rob's daughter wanted to play, illustrating family interactions.
“And so it was very reminiscent of that for me.”
Sneaky Sasquatch and Louis Theroux
14:00 to 18:50
The hosts discuss a humorous encounter with Louis Theroux involving a game called Sneaky Sasquatch.
“and he was away for like four nights, so five nights.”
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Sneaky Sasquatch and Louis Theroux
18:54 to 19:38
The hosts discuss a humorous encounter with Louis Theroux involving a game called Sneaky Sasquatch.
“Like your eldest has got a lingering cough, GP booked.”
Conference Insights and Conversations
19:39 to 28:00
Rob and Josh share experiences from a conference, discussing networking and their interactions.
“Did you know that psoriatic arthritis may progress over time and could cause permanent joint damage if left untreated?”
Dog Anxiety and Family Dynamics
28:00 to 29:20
Discussing the impact of noise on their dog's anxiety and family interactions.
“And it's like, I felt really bad, but I was just like, dad, dad constantly, he goes, yes.”
The Concept of Fika
29:20 to 31:17
Exploring the Scandinavian tradition of fika and its cultural significance.
Corporate Gig in Unusual Venue
31:17 to 32:56
Recounting an entertaining corporate gig held in a unique aircraft hangar.
“I mean, for me, that's probably the easiest corporate.”
Lego Obsession and Family Life
32:56 to 34:24
Talking about a child's obsession with Lego and its impact on family space.
“I think I might turn down Plymouth Argyle.”
Halloween Plans and Parenting Challenges
34:24 to 36:40
Discussing Halloween plans and the challenges of being a famous parent.
“with each other during summer holiday and normal.”
Prioritizing Family and Work Balance
36:40 to 37:38
Exploring the balance between family life and social media work demands.
“Oh, no, you've got to be kidding me, haven't you?”
Navigating Social Media and Personal Life
37:38 to 42:01
Discussing the impact of social media on personal life and mental health.
“I think the point of a feeker is a group of people coming together to chat.”
Navigating Phone Addiction and Parenting
42:01 to 45:10
Learn how to manage phone usage while balancing parenting responsibilities.
“And also, again, having that phone relationship drags me back to that way of thinking that I don't need to be like anymore.”
Setting an Example for Kids
45:10 to 49:24
Explore the importance of modeling healthy phone habits for children.
Small Business Shoutouts and Community
50:27 to 54:43
Hear inspiring stories from listeners about their small businesses.
Transcript
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2:01Josh Wickham. Josh Wickham. Way to go. Good boy. Well done, buddy. There you go. Well done, buddy. Right. Hi, Rob, Josh and Michael. Here's my cheeky and very accident-prone boy, Edward, saying your names. He was exactly three years old when we recorded this. in true parenting health tradition recorded this mid bath much the amusement of his seven-year-old sister alice i've been listening since day one and could honestly say your podcast got me through some really tricky times we had trying to have a second child before edward arrived so it feels amazing to finally send this in i know rob you have done a couple of australian tours and i know josh you're tempted but if you ever in the area i would recommend a visit to the lovely melbourne derbyshire which is the australian one is named after i can't promise sunshine but can promise lots of pubs friendly people in pictures village keeping sexy label emma 486 months from melbourne derbyshire unfortunately not the australian one oh right i got confused okay so there's a melbourne in derbyshire looks pretty yeah i want to go back to australia i'm being a little thinking about going back for a holiday slash work are you gonna work again well the plan would be to go it was a long time i i think i i think listeners will agree with this okay that if i had spoken as publicly as you did within the last year by publicly i mean on this podcast yeah about how you're gonna have a real break from touring and stand up yeah and within a year you are clearly drifting back towards it at top pace.
3:38I think it's fair to say you would have hauled me over the coals. Would you agree on that Michael? Yeah 100%. There's a sort of inevitability to it all. That's why people listen because we say something and they're already sat there going. You would have let's be honest if this was me Rob you'd be going you can't be doing this Josh You can't be doing this. I mean, look. I agree. It doesn't feel that long ago that you were living on an industrial estate outside Coventry. Leicester. Let's get the facts right, okay? Okay, Leicester. And Coventry as well. I did both of them, to be fair. Yeah, there was one in Coventry.
4:15Look, to be honest, I'm definitely, I can't not do something. I just realised it. I've got to accept that I've got this little ball of energy in me that just goes. And I have to channel it somewhere. Because if I don't, I'll end up in a pub or a bookies. I can just sense it. Okay. So I'll mark as a base about you can't chop the legs off a racehorse, but you can put it on a safe track. Is that the saying? Okay. So how's the, yeah, yeah. So you're just going to keep it low key, look at a tour to Australia. No, no, no. So we want to go to Australia anyway, but we thought in a way to make it more efficient money-wise, if I do a tour at the end of my flights.
4:57Because that's what we want from a holiday. You know, the world's really bad, right? you've done hundreds of dates yeah and you know really when you go on holiday you want to make it efficient so you want to build it around a tour but for all the out there that i could just do a couple of weeks of gigging while i'm there and then come back but you could just do those gigs at home and then for more money probably for more money probably and then spend that on the on a family holiday to australia that was basically a coffeed up adhd chat in the car on the way to some friends at the weekend right this has not been booked it's not going in but i do agree i am not implementing i agree with the first of those it's not been booked well should i tell you what i did last week in my autumn of doing nothing yeah so uh we did podcast last monday we did four hours podcast in the morning in the afternoon i filmed my golf youtube channel yeah and the next day we filmed all day in london for the podcast then we flew to stockholm on wednesday we was at a conference for work all day flew home we will we'll cover this because it's this is fun to have thursday i had to do a couple of zooms not much though bit of a half day friday i went to bristol to do a corporate in a aircraft hangar that had a concord in it okay yeah and then but i had saturday and sunday off so in the i am working less in the evenings and at home at the weekends.
6:25That's key. Okay. Not working at all isn't the problem, but that is still quite a lot of work. But it's the evenings and weekends that's the killer. It's not working. It's the being away for weekends and evenings. Okay. So I would say a tour is crucially evenings and weekends. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's what the chat was about. How do I tour? There's been talks of the matinee man. which you know well it's gonna be problematic if you only ever do two o 'clock on fridays yeah i don't think but here's my here's my plan to just do thursdays and fridays okay but you know what rob i i'm gonna play this out this is a phone go on right this is not necessarily your agent but like someone at the agency who's booking the tour the thing is rob right yeah going up to manchester Thursday, Friday, you're doing these gigs.
7:23Are you really going to want to travel up to Liverpool the following Thursday, Friday, or while you're up there, we could just get the Liverpool ones done Saturday and Sunday, and then they're done, and then you don't have to travel up. No, it's just more efficient. It's just more efficient. No, because if I just do... All right, I'll do Tuesday, Wednesday. No, but the advantage of the weekend, Rob, is that you can do the matinees as well. Oh, my God. I'm just so in denial, aren't I? I'm so in denial about what I am. And what I am is a fucking touring clown that has to be there on a Saturday because that's when normal people want to go out.
7:59Yeah. And I'm not going to do it. Firstly, Fridays. That's it. I'd love to do matinee, man. Okay. So you're not going to do Saturdays and Sundays on this next tour? That's the plan. Because if I get home late on a Friday. No, no, no. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Yeah. Sorry? That's the plan. so sorry i'm gonna i haven't had a discussion with my promoters yet but you but they'll be fine because you're just not that's that's your red line yeah that's my line in the sand actually why the kids are young i don't do saturdays okay fine yeah sorry i'm sorry if i've got boundaries actually. No, it's definitely not Sunday.
8:38Maybe some Saturday.
8:44No, I do find Saturdays are hard going. It's better to do, no, Sundays, like, the worst is a Sunday night because if you get home Monday, you're into another week already. You do need that little reset on a Sunday. So you might do Saturdays? No, I can't do Saturdays. What we're talking about is I'm not doing any of that. Okay, fine. Have you got any gigs in? Oh, someone's calling. Oh, hang on. Oh, one second. Oh. Is he a tour promoter? No, but I'm getting a... Right, sorry. This is quite parenting heli. First of all, do you like my new backdrop? Yeah, you can barely see it. Yeah. Second of all, do you want to chat about that while I quickly go and take the delivery of a car?
9:23What? Thanks. Right, I'll be back in about two minutes. I think someone's at the front. I can just double check. Sorry. Someone's delivering a car today. We've got a new car. So, sorry. Are we going to need quite a big break here? because you're taking delivery of a car. That takes quite a while. Yeah, but you'll just park it. I'm just going to quickly...
9:44Oh, hello, mate. You all right? Do you call? Right, Michael. Do you want to fill time or do we want to stop? No, because I believe... Let's have a little bet. Okay. Okay. I think seven minutes minimum. Okay. I'm setting a stopwatch now. I'm going to say nine minutes, ten seconds. Okay. Should we have a break? I'll have a biscuit. I couldn't change it from 1912. So I thought Lou might be here. It might be fine. It might even have popped in between records, you know, or he might have half 11. Hilariously, there's keep talking to someone at my door now. Here we go. So it's not just me. Sorry. Can we carry on without you, Michael?
10:26He's gone.
10:30Also I went, right. So I've got, I went out. We might. so he's recording me so i went out i'm wearing this white t-shirt yeah yeah i've got a pair of shorts on because when i normally sit here i get quite sweaty i just put shorts on with no pants yeah fine however in the daylight oh no you can see through the pants the silhouette of the dick the silhouette of the dick so i just greeted a man with a car with the silhouette of my dick yeah and he said i'll pop it in the letterbox i'll pop it in the letterbox well the keys to the car i went i went sorry mate i'm in the middle of a podcast with a dick flapping about my slippers on and he went that's okay i'll just say you weren't here and put it in a letterbox i was like what an absolute fucking legend right great yeah i hope he hasn't got a story that i was like dismissive i just i said i'm really sorry but like i didn't like normally offer a cup of tea and say do you need the toilet and stuff like that yeah yeah no i think i don't i don't think that's the story it's dicks he didn't offer me a cup of tea it's the dick Well, I think it's actually worse off for someone to drink and do you want to come in for the toilet with their dick flapping about.
11:35Yeah. But I didn't realise that I got out there. Yeah, I think if you come in with your dick out and say, do you want to come into my toilet? No, no, no, no, it's not escalating. My dick wasn't out. My dick was away. But when the sun peeked through the cloud, where's Michael gone? I don't know. Well, he might be back. I'm going to come back. I'm going to come back. What happened? There was my coffee and my breakfast at the door. And how out of breath are you? How big's your ass? Well, I had to run downstairs and get some sugar for my coffee. so it's not my house I'm at the office he nearly got some sugar for his coffee the delivery driver I know Rob yeah so when's his tour announced no no I've got no jokes should people should people you can't say now but do sign up to Rob's mailing list if you want exciting news before others soon no not yet no I think no I genuinely think I'll be touring in 2028 okay so I might be writing some stuff next year but no tour Yeah, yeah, yeah.
12:29And do you know what? I might as well do some in autumn 2020. No, let's go. I'm not playing this little game. I reckon I should settle the nerves before Christmas. Treat me like a little fiddle that you like to play now and again about my shows, actually. My art? My art. Look, when the inspiration comes a-calling, Bobby B will come a-talking. Yeah? Yeah, okay. And at the moment, the inspiration hasn't struck. I'm thinking about, you know, maybe doing a show about big political issues or something. you know what i'm saying yeah i think that's a good idea actually yeah so rob yes should we talk about our trip to stockholm together yeah so we went to stockholm didn't we for the spotify thing yeah so it was a spotify conference we were asked to do a 10 minute talk at yeah interview very it was quite i've been to sort of i do a lot of we do a lot of corporate events i've done a few fireside chats before about social mobility actually when I would discuss my Sunday Times bestselling book, A Class Act, where I discussed being trapped in a working class man in a middle class world.
13:35And so it was very reminiscent of that for me. I don't know how you found it. Well, let's go from the moment, go chronologically, because it was quite the exciting, thrilling day. Well, we were in London, weren't we, doing Parenting Hell? Yeah. And then we went to Heathrow. Yes. You were annoyed that I'd got check-in luggage. No, I wasn't annoyed. I was slightly surprised and a little bit put out because I'm like, oh, we're going to have to wait for Josh now to get his checking luggage. But then you explained that you were going straight to Strictly after and he was away for like four nights, so five nights.
14:05So I was like, okay, let's not get annoyed at him. But yes, I was slightly put out that we had to wait for this dweeb to put his bag in the hold for one night. So let's talk about the fact that Louis Theroux was also there. Oh, I forgot about this. so yeah you took you it's your my daughter asked me to download i have to i have to approve any games yeah that she wants on her ipad it comes to my phone which is quite frustrating because i'm away yeah and she rung you in a record which they can hear i think that was a football one or a parenting one yeah and it was a game called sneaky sasquatch see yeah she wanted you to approve the purchase of sneaky sasquatch yeah and how did we get into this conversation i can't remember we were laughing at see it was funny because she rang you and she was being quite forceful on the phone she was like just do this for me and i won't and i'll leave you alone or something and it it made us laugh because we said what is it she wanted because it sounded really serious and you went sneaky sasquatch yeah and then we i think at some point said why don't we play a game where when we see Louis Theroux, we've got to try and say, see sneaky Sasquatch to him or in front of him.
15:16And whoever does it the most gets the most points. Let's just say Louis Theroux, we know quite well, I'd say. We went to Wimbledon with Louis Theroux. He's a lovely man. I've interviewed him before for his book launch at the venue and stuff. Yeah, we've had him on this. We know Louis Theroux. He's up for a laugh. He's an interesting bloke. Yeah. Doesn't take stuff too seriously, quite relaxed. So we see him in the departure now from a distance, but we don't go up to him. Because I don't think you want to disturb someone in the departure lounge. No, but he had his glasses off as well, so it's hard to spot.
15:46Yeah, I couldn't... Well, I think we said he's been a bit of a sneaky Sasquatch there, isn't he? Because you couldn't tell it was him with his glasses off. I don't know if sneaky Sasquatch is funny to anyone else apart from us. Because we were like giddy school kids. And there was an element where I thought, the amount we were giggling on the trip, people are going to go, these two are a bit much in real life.
16:12I thought they'd just like put their headphones in and like ignore each other. You really, you really attacked a book. You love a book. I love a book. Shoes off and a book. Shoes off and a book. Oh, that's your happy place. Well, I only took shoes off on the flight because you took your shoes off on the flight. No, you went shoes off first. No way. No way. No way. I only took mine off. No, I remember thinking he's got his shoes off. I'm going shoes off. Fuck you. You went first. I copied you because I thought you knew more about flights.
16:44So also, I did notice that your shoelace situation, I've actually been messaging Rose about this. It is so annoying, my shoelace. I don't know what to do about it. Right, so your shoelaces always look like they're undone, but they're not. They're done up, but the bow is huge. You need to double knot the bow, I think. I do double knot the bow. You can't. How thin are your ankles? Why is the string so long? I think, because I like a tight shoe. You pull it really tight around your feet, don't you? I think I pull it really tight. And I think the consistency of the times I pull it tight lengthens the laces.
17:18So you stretch Armstrong in the lace? Yeah, I think that's what's happening. I think you need to get shorter laces, if that's the case. Because I actually Googled Josh Woodacombe shoelace. Did you? There's a lot of evidence out there. Who's there? And it's quite stressful to be with you, because you always look like you're about to trip over on it. I never do. I know, I know. That's fine. But I'm just saying, look, I'm a newcomer to this. So I was messaging Rose. I was messaging her the other night because you were busy presenting live. And I was messaging her saying how good you were doing on the street.
17:48Were the shoelaces all right? Were the shoelaces okay? Shoelaces were fine. I was saying how smart you looked. And then that led into the shoelace. And I said to her, he always looked like he was going to fall over in Stockholm because his laces were too long. And she said, oh, my God, don't even get me started on the lace. But what can I do? Burn off the laces? No, just buy shorter laces. Well, I don't buy the laces. They come with the shoes. I know, but you're going to have to sort of modify your shoes. Measure my laces and then find some shorter ones. I said, not a loose shoelace in sight on Strictly.
18:17And I said, honestly, I was so anxious in Stockholm watching him walk downstairs. He has such big bows. And she said, I have no idea why his shoelaces are so long. She said, it's one of life's great mysteries. And I said, has he got a particularly slim ankle? And she said, no, his feet are quite wide. Do you think it would take up more lace? Exactly. I've got wide feet. But it doesn't take up more lace. Do you know what? I've also got a high arch. Maybe that's got something to do with it. I think you need to buy new laces, personally. Okay, fine. I'll do that. I'll get around to that.
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20:43So then we see Lurie Theroux in the queue. Yeah. You get in early with a sneaky sasquatch, don't you? I say, oh, there he is, a sneaky sasquatch, and get a point. Did you say one as well? Yeah, I said one when we met him in the queue. So the scoring system was you need to say in his company, Sneaky Sasquatch, if you're touching him, you get 10 points. Yeah. But I felt when I said mine to him, I did feel there was a flicker that he was like, why is that phrase come up again? Yeah, I think subconsciously you might have thought there's something going on here. Because I think I said, I can't remember what it would have been, but it would have been when we were then.
21:18We haven't told him we've done this game. Is this fair? Should we have told him at the end? I feel bad now. But it only was like two or three times because then we got on the plane. Then we stopped. and we stopped. You read your book. I watched a documentary about an amputee that... Oh my God, that you told me about and it sounded awful. Well, it was about a guy in Cornwall that was a doctor and a surgeon that used to do amputations but then he basically cut his own legs off. Well, he didn't cut his own legs off. Oh my God. This is so bleak. He's just so bleak. Right, let's not get bogged down.
21:46But he ended up having to get his legs amputated because he gave himself frostbite because he wanted to be an amputee and then it found out that he was linked into this horrendous website. Oh my God. So you're reading a book about 90s Britpop and I'm watching an amputee true crime doc. And then we arrive in Stockholm. We get to the hotel, wake up in the morning, go to the conference. We have quite a, no sneaky satswatches before the conference starts. We meet a lady called Macarena. Yeah, we met a lady called Macarena who is a Mexican business podcaster. Who's, I think, interviewing Tom Cruise this week.
22:17Very, very intelligent. Very charismatic. So on it. And she popped up everywhere. Everyone would turn around with Macarena. I reckon we met Macarena 15 times in the space of 12 hours. Every time we turned around, Macarena was there. And she was on the panel with us chatting. Yeah. We watched a talk from the main CEO of Spotify. I felt like an actual grown-up. Oh, my God. I'm at a grown-up thing. Yeah. And then we had fika. I love fika. I've never fika'd before. Yeah, which is basically a pastry at 11 a.m. And a chat. It's a Swedish cultural thing, I think. yeah we just stopped for a pastry and chat yeah um we were so out of our depth i spoke to someone from linkedin you spoke to someone from linkedin it's mad that we were there it's so weird you were talking to someone from linkedin and then the ceo of spotify was i enjoyed it but we had a nice lunch but before the lunch we had to sit down and do this chat right now it was a really good chat we just basically had to talk about how we approach our podcast how we interact with people I don't think, I think it's fair to say we weren't as analytical as top people in business would want you to be.
23:28No, but that's not what we do. The other podcasters, there was Louis Farouk. There was another one. There was a business one and then a current affairs one. So they're quite serious. So it was a spread. They had like these sort of documentary one, comedy one, and then business and current affairs. And then there was questions. And now I think I answered this fine, but I don't know if it was the right thing to do. So it'd be nice to hear from you and Michael. They asked us how we use AI within our podcast. And there were some serious answers about... Well, I opened by saying we don't. No, yeah, which was a lie.
24:00Because we do. And I said, after they gave their quite sort of intelligent, broad answers about AI, I said, we have used AI in our podcast. On Football in Hell, we created an image using AI of Roberto De Zerbi, the Tottenham manager, that had been transformed into a hamster, and then back into a human watching CCTV in a shop to what I would say was slight confused silence until you burst into laughter, Josh. But that is the only time we've used it. Even the eternally smiling Macarena, the eternally supportive Macarena was looking a little confused at that point. Yeah, I mean, but, you know, was that okay to say that?
24:42That was the answer. You ask me a question, you get an answer. We had a lovely day out. We had lunch, lovely lunch, didn't we? We had a lovely lunch. You made loads of friends at the lunch. I think there's another world where you'd be a salesman. Oh, I love it. I'm not even doing – I just like talking to people. I've got a restaurant recommendation in Buenos Aires of a man from Argentina. I'm not sure you do like talking to people. You're a man who lived on an industrial estate outside Leicester to avoid human contact. If I'm well-rested and got space, I'm a chatbot. And that's why you're pulling back on the touring.
25:16That's why you're pulling back on the touring. Exactly. If I'd been on tour, I wouldn't have been as chatty at lunch. Yeah, exactly. But I had to get it out of me. It gives Lou a break when I get home if I've chatted to a bloke from Buenos Aires. Exactly. I just have to tell her about what I've said to him at lunch rather than start a new conversation with Lou. So that's easier for her because she just has to nod and she's not fully involved. But I had a great time. And then we finished the conference and then we went football shirt shopping. Oh, yeah, that was great fun. Great fun. Do you know what?
25:47I saw Gwyneth Paltrow in my hotel. Oh, Gwyneth Paltrow was there? Very exciting. We had a lovely time. Right at the end, you did a full 10-pointer. Sneaky Sasquatch. Sneaky Sasquatch from Louis. Yeah, because we were sat for a photo, and he was behind me, and we were talking about what we did on the plane, and he was talking about a book he read. He was asking intelligent questions, and I went, basically I thought I was a mop the week again. I was going with an easy bit of cheeky, chappy, army, and idiot stuff, put my hand on his knee, and went, do you know what I was doing? I was playing sneaky Sasquatch on my phone.
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26:16And they just looked straight ahead for the camera. 10 points. Bang. 11-1. Done of you. And then at the airport, we thought we might be on the plane home. So he was searching all the gates for the BA flights to try and get in a hands-on sneaky Sasquatch.
26:39God, good fun. So, Louis, thank you. Apologies. I don't think you knew what was going on. I think, though, I think it... I don't know. Is this a legal thing you're allowed to do? Do drop in sneaky sasquatch into your conversations generally. Until you get called out. Record them and send them in to us. Yeah. How it goes. Yeah. Yeah, let's make it a little viral TikTok trend where you say sneaky sasquatch so many times until your partner goes, what are you saying? Why are you saying that? How many times can you say sneaky sasquatch before your partner clocks it. Yeah, so it was fun there. Enjoyed that.
27:17Yeah, that was a really nice trip. It was. We had fun. Have you seen your kids much this week, Rob? Loads. We went to, well, we spoke about it on the footballing podcast. We went and saw London City Lionesses. Oh, yeah. So we spoke about that on the football pod. That was good. That was a little Saturday afternoon out. Sunday, we went to see some friends. And they're just, they're just, I found my kid. Like they just, I felt like, I don't know what was going on, but my kids didn't stop speaking for the whole weekend. Do you ever find that with just children, it's just like, oh my God, this is, I don't know if it's because I've been at home loads and I was with them all weekend.
27:56But, and I was just like, I can't talk anymore. Yeah. Do you ever find that? And it's like, I felt really bad, but I was just like, dad, dad constantly, he goes, yes. And at one point our dog was a bit nervous. Basically, we've worked out, George, if we've got a few flies in the house and we've got this machine, like a light that's blue, that you turn it on, flies get drawn towards it and then get like zapped. Yeah, zapped. We've worked out that freaks the dog out. I don't know if there's a frequency or a smell or a noise. The dog can hear that we can't hear. But when that's on, we've got rid of it now, but when that's on, he gets all nervous and shaky.
28:31So if you sit down with him and have him on your lap and just stroke him gently, he'll rest and just go and sit. My daughter, the whole time, just kept going, he's really nervous. And I was like, if you sit quietly, he'll relax. She spoke nonstop about how stressed and nervous he was, basically making the dog more stressed and nervous. And then he kept on going. I think it's the noise. I think the noise is making it more. And I just said, how about you don't speak? By the end of the weekend, she went, my chest feels all tight and my throat's hurting. And I went, I'm not trying to be Aggie. Have you thought about not speaking for a bit?
29:07but it's so difficult to say that to your child about looking like an evil pet you have not stopped spoken for two days try not speaking
29:21but um but yeah no we had a fun we had a fun weekend went to a friend in the morning oh those they gave us those sweets from you know my hotel room oh yeah the welcome package was some sweet just sweets and chocolates yeah how did they get out well we took them to our friends was going around friends in the morning actually it's weirdly we went to our friends about 11 a.m for fika essentially for fika but just an accidental fika it's contagious yeah because let's be honest i mean i'm i love fika as much as the next man yeah but it's not the first time i've ever eaten a pastry at 11 a.m do you know what i think what fika is because this is what i worked out about scandinavians are they're very direct and quite comfortable in saying yes and no yeah it's not awkward where the british so like i think the point of fika is if i said to you come around for fika what that means is come around for 11 o 'clock fuck off by about half 12 you're not getting lunch you're not staying all day you're coming in for a coffee and a pastry then you're gone and then the person i think that's what place is a thing right so yes if you were in a british workplace and you said shall we all down tools and get a pastry 11 a.m people go well i'm not sure about that i've got a call then i've got that yeah as an exchange of ideas rob and also just you don't always have to be talking about work but i think 11 o 'clock fika is like you wouldn't book in a call then because that is fika time of course but i think i want to introduce fika because i sometimes on a weekend it'd be nice for friends with kids to come over for about an hour and a half two hours but i don't want to accept eight hour day you know i mean like because if someone says come around about 11 you're like well what am i coming around for is that early for lunch or are you coming for lunch are you coming for the day you're coming for dinner like but a fika's like come around at about 11 and then you know you're having a pastry and a coffee then you're going i'm not feeding you for lunch i think we need to be the faces of bringing fika to the uk yeah the fika boys the fika boys yeah yeah okay i think so i think fika needs to i think you should say to me do you want to come around for fika what's that you come around at 11 we have a coffee and a croissant or a cinnamon bun and then you go about half 12 i'm not doing your lunch oh those cinnamon buns were so good as well it was very good yeah so so you went around for fika to your friend's house oh that's the other thing i've got as well you know the on spotify they have the x guy the dj x that recommends songs like an algorithm thing but it's actually a man talking to you yeah he's a real man yeah you met him met him he did a video for the girls there you go they were buzzing they were buzzing they love djx um yeah so that was all good and then come back and then yeah i went to bristol on friday to do the a dentist corporate i mean have i not done one before easiest gig of my life why were the dentists having a corporate in a room with a concord in it so basically i think it's a an association if i'm right that sort of smaller dentist practices can join i imagine for access to different things based in the southwest so i think it was a central point for everyone was bristol this is mad aircraft hangar where it's got a concord in it that you could go and have a look around and then tables and chairs at the bottom and i did the gig there it's really good gig actually it was really nice oh nice how much uh how much teeth stuff did i get paid what how much teeth stuff how much loads of teeth stuff I absolutely hammered it.
32:45You're going to, are you? I mean, it's insane. I mean, absolutely. I mean, for me, that's probably the easiest corporate. What would yours be? Plymouth Argyle? But then if the players are there, it gets complicated. that'd be really tough. I think I might turn down Plymouth Argyle. What else is going down with you? Doing a lot of Lego. My son's become Lego obsessed. He's just so into Lego. And is he building stuff with the booklet or just making mad stuff? Building stuff with the booklet. That's what he likes. He's obsessed with the booklets. you want so you're going to need a place to store all the builds aren't you yes he wants to shelf his room when it's done but i think it's getting there's getting too much stuff yeah no between three cats and a you know jumbo jet or whatever he's building well we've got the plane and the plane's difficult to fit anywhere because the wings are quite you can mount them on walls have you seen this he likes to play with them right okay so he gets them down and play it yeah so that's that is our sitting room at the moment um it's to be honest drop life is pretty smooth sailing family wise at the moment it's all pretty easy well not easy it's never easy it's never easy but it's easier than it's been because he's in his first is his second year of school now as well year one year one yeah so like you're getting into a little bit of the You're creeping into the easy because 10 and 8 is a lot easier.
34:10Is it? More arguments and mental gymnastics, but, you know, look, they're getting themselves up and dressed. I'm not having to do shoelaces up. I just can't believe the difference between the children's moods with each other during summer holiday and normal. Yeah. By the end of the summer holiday, they are so done with each other. But they're best buds again, though. They're a bit, well, you know. You know, Rob. You know how it is. We're getting ready for Halloween. Are you a fan of Halloween? No, I think it's sort of bollocks. Lou and the girls love it. I think they're, I normally just don't get involved and Lou and the girls go to a friend's house and they do trick-or-treat.
34:53I mean. And you just sit at home like a sad old Scrooge. Well, no, I mean. And make sure the lights are out so that no one trick-or-treats you. the problem is I'll have to put a mask on I'll have to avoid trick or treating there's just a lot of old people where I live so there's not many kids I'd have to get a mask because it's a bit unfair on the kids if they go trick or treat and everyone's like why is Robeckett there so you have to go masked up or you become that Robeckett outfit is absolutely spot on because you get a lot of that they're saying it a bit more now because they're getting older people commenting that I'm their dad.
35:35Yeah. And people always say to me, your dad runs back here, your dad's run back here, your dad's run back here, and stuff like that. And, you know, then it must be annoying. I'm getting a sense that they're finding it annoying. Right. Yes. What can you do about that? Nothing, actually. So you'll just go, do you know what? Do you know what, I probably can't do when I'm on Celebritators. As a favour to you. as a favour to you I'll stay at home while you go trick or treating I'll just watch the football yeah but I said what I said was I said yeah they'll say that now but I know that you are going to be so successful and so talented and skilled in whatever you do that me being your daddy is going to be such a small part of who you become that people won't even know or care by then A lot of pressure you're putting on them there, Rob.
36:30Maybe, but I think they will. But it's not pressure if it's an unwaverable belief as opposed to expectation. I'm not saying you're going to bet. You know, I was like, oh, who's that? Hang on. I'll summon the door. Oh, no, you've got to be kidding me, haven't you? Look, Josh, come on. Over the years, it's not like... The professionism. It's gone out the way. Hey, I've got a black backdrop. Yeah, to be fair. Well, no, but I just sort of tried to dismiss it and go, yeah. What's up at the door? You've just ignored the door? Yeah. I ignored the door. What? Go and answer. No. Who is it? Some delivery.
37:09They'll pop it over the fence or they'll put it in the neighbours. I'm not getting up. They'll chuck it over the fence. I'm busy. It's not Fika time. It's business time. Well, it is Fika time, actually. Should we lie Fika? Should we lie? The argument is, though, our job's Fika. Our job is Fika. The only thing we could do is add in a pastry, which I think Michael's feekering for us. Can you feekering alone? I think Michael's feekering alone. Not really. I think that's just called eating. Yeah. I think the point of a feeker is a group of people coming together to chat. Yeah, yeah. I might feeker my neighbours.
37:48No. Just setting up my little pair of shorts, dick swagging around. Fancy a cinnamon bun. That's how we got it.
38:04well any other i feel like stuff's gone on this week but i can't trying to sort out birthday parties i've been away a lot and then oh yeah talk to me about birthday parties because you've got they've got the double december double dip december coming up haven't you yeah so what we've done is we brought them slightly earlier to try and spread it out but we're not going away at christmas we're at home all christmas so we've got a bit more of a chilled christmas because we went away before but um we brought them earlier and i've got a week in the middle so i think one one's gonna do a escape room and pizza express yeah um which will be fun and then the other one one is to just do pizza express and then go to like the theater with like one or two friends but i think that's out the window now but i think we now may be doing some sort of it's a place near us in kent that does like tobogganing like dry slope tobogganing and like snow things but on a dry slope so i think you get an hour of going down this dry slope on toboggans and um like rubber ring things and make sort of it just embrace the fact it's going to be cold in decembery and have winter fun that's fun that is fun and just like we've got to just go look if you dress for rain and cold if you're wearing waterproofs and layers it's fun isn't it And is it going to be a drop-off, both those parties?
39:21Yeah, both drop-offs. But I think we may do a drop-off at our house and us drive them down there. Oh, nice. Between the two cars, I think we can get them all in. Is that why you could bought a new car? Yeah. Well, we've got a new car to do big family trips. We get loads of it. It's a seven-seater, Josh. Oh, yeah, because I remember the conversation where you said, we're thinking of doing this. And then, you know me, I will smatily do it immediately. You will smatily do it immediately. Now I've accepted that's my thought process. Life's a lot easier. I'll have a thought and I'll do it immediately.
39:52And some pay off, some don't. But that's who I am. And I have to live with that. Exactly. And that's why you're going back on tour in the middle of 2027. A lot more of it pays off than goes the wrong way. Exactly. Exactly. We had a chat about your two phones. Yes. I'm thriving with my two phones. Are you? I'm actually annoying Lou now. But because I've created a little bit of space between me and social media, on Sunday when Lou was on her phone the girls are like Lou get off your phone and I was like yeah come on Lou yeah here we go I'm not doing it and that annoyed her a lot did it really really a lot because she's just like just because you decided to do something for you why are you making it my problem now as well well I've had I have had a very similar phone so I'm I'm back on the brick you've inspired me and I'm loving the brick again yeah my life I feel by the way I'm not completely off social media like some sort of thing i've just avoided in the evenings and like so sunday we left the house at 10 a.m i took my personal phone and i didn't look at my work phone till about six in the afternoon and reply to a few messages so i'm still in contact with people and getting stuff done but i'm not on me all the time burning hot with messages and emails and see this is the thing i'm gonna say all right i'm gonna throw out there i think the thing that's i think the word work and personal is the confusing thing okay what do you want me to call it because i don't think your phone distraction stroke addiction yeah is is to do with work it's to do with social media 100 but part of my work is social media so i can't eradicate it fully but if it's on a device i can't access when i'm with my family that creates less distraction when I'm with them.
41:39Yes, totally. But what I don't think you're addicted to is emailing your agent. No, but I'm addicted to safety, which comes from booking in work on a deeper psychological level. So my phone going off is almost like that originally, the work one is, oh, my God, they want me, they need me, can get money. Right, okay. And also, again, having that phone relationship drags me back to that way of thinking that I don't need to be like anymore. So it's almost a confidence thing to go, I cannot look at my phone for an entire day and that doesn't mean my career's over and I'll never run again. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
42:17Because I always felt like I had to be on that phone because if I missed an opportunity, I would be an idiot, stupid, what a loser, and you fucked everything up, which is unhinged. And the truth is your mind is using the excuse of that to then just scroll a TikTok. 100%. and I'm not none of that and then but once I'm there I can't get off those they're too addictive so if I've got a little bit of space but also I do need to be on it slightly one to sort of promote stuff and see how things are going but also I do you do need a little bit of it to be able to access what's going on in the world for my job and being across stuff slightly but not to the extent I was using it yeah so anyway but that's it's working for me at the moment but um like i say it's a work in progress it's a work in progress and rose had a question which other people might have how does lou know how to contact you on which phone on our we've got whatsapp group called robin lou and in that group is lou's number and then both of my numbers so if she wants to message me she messages me on that group and i will get that message whatever phone i'm on because it's going to the group and then if she wants to ring me she tries one if that doesn't answer tries the other yeah but she'll probably know which one i'm on from if it's the middle of the day on tuesday i'll be on a work one but if it's on the weekend and stuff like that so just do the whatsapp group of you two on and then you can message on that there we go there we go so that's what i'm doing but if you have got a spare old phone try and do it it does it is helping me drawing a bit of a line in the sand.
43:58It is mad that we've reached this space in time where we have to buy a second phone because we're being dragged into these apps. They're so addicted. It's actual crap. And this stuff is like, like we are, some of the content as well that I'm watching is shite. We're being spoon fed fucking gruel because we're so addicted. It's like a junkie that will take any old crack because it's there. You know what I mean? Yeah. And then what people are doing now is creating content that fits that method. We're like foie gras. So then I'm watching stuff I don't even like, but because the way it's shot that basically, you know, manipulates your eyes or plays off on fear or do this, and this is how your life will better, do this, this is how, all these things that play into fears and vulnerabilities, and you're hooked in, but the actual core of you is like, why the fuck am I hooked in?
44:53I don't care. i'm not doing this chinese swinging of arms thing just because it makes you get rid of lymphatic fat like i'm getting hammered with ai shit about how to talk to people and what exercises to do so it's like it's so hard to avoid being dragged into it so not having it when i was in paris with you romesh and tom davis yeah uh which wasn't a personal trip as we've discussed um that i you three know so much i i just about tiktokers and youtubers yeah people i've never ever heard of and i think you three are the only adults of my age who i know who know about these people well yeah i mean you're not into that kind of you you've no no no that's not a criticism no no but you pulled the drawbridge up at 2003 i pulled the drawbridge up at 2008 when i started stand-up that was when i pulled the drawbridge up um but yeah you're not on social media well i am but i'm just getting fed different stuff aren't i what are you getting fed i'm wasting my time as much as you are but it just feeds me that stuff because you're interested in i'm interested in people and weird people and characters and stuff and i watch that kind of stuff as opposed to i don't watch old documentary i think you'd you'd watch a good old like something from the past video where i'm like watching newer stuff yeah like amputation documentaries but is it like the equivalent is like if you're addicted to something and i am addicted to my phone if i'm going out for the week if i'm trying to get stop smoking right yeah and i grab my car keys to drive my car right yeah and go out and there's cigarette and light are attached to those car keys yeah it's gonna be impossible not to smoke that day but i need the keys to get out and that's attached to it it's the same as your phone but if i can get a set of car keys without that on it so i can go out and you know move around park my car message people back so anyway but yeah it's not perfect your screen time i suppose your screen time split so you don't know well i'm i'm not what i've got more it's well screen time's bollocks really though because i could spend three hours tied in a room with a podcast on or a youtube interview on and technically it thinks i'm watching that but i'm not it's just playing out as i listen to the audio so and also I use it for driving.
47:13So I don't get bogged down the screen time, but I have definitely got more hours and I'm talking to the kids more and I'm not looking at it when I'm out. So I took my personal phone to the football with the kids. There's just nothing to – you know, sometimes you're waiting for a bit, you're a bit bored and the kids are chatting. You're just automatic. My thumb does it without me thinking. So I'm just trying to – And have you – this is my other question, because this is a slight thing i get with the brick right yeah is i find myself with the brick you can just disable it okay yeah but i don't because it's oh that's good well you can but it's that it's that thought it makes you engage with the thought process do you know what i mean so obviously you do like but i just the main motivation is have you replaced social media and stuff like that with weird other things that you find yourself browsing on your phone no not really i've what i've done actually is i've done like um i've like finding time to do other stuff like sort things out in the house actually playing a computer game i know it's like on my i know it's not sneaky little sasquad you sneaky little you actually i've downloaded a game called lord i just i'm embarrassed to tell you what it is what because you're gonna just rip me to pieces is it called um is it a game where you pretend that you're on tour it's called lawn simulator too oh my god or i cut grass in a computer game and what is it is there a skill to it or do you just do it it's quite laborious and boring but for me it engages my gut and my brain i can listen to a podcast do that and i'm just not doing any i'm just in my own little world yeah i'm not scrolling so i'm finding i've got more spare time that isn't you know involved and look the reason i'm doing it is i've got to give my daughter a phone soon she's going to go into year seven next year i cannot give her a phone and say you're not allowed this you're not allowed that you're not allowed to be on the phone that much when i sit there on it all i'm fucking glued to it in the evenings and the weekends so in the day during the week that's fine if i need it for work and also normally because i'm busy i'm not on it anyway because i'm actually physically doing a job or somewhere or something so anyway i feel like i'm boring and banging on now but i think i've just got to be disciplined and show an example to the girls because otherwise they're and turn around going you're on your phone all the time yeah and all of a sudden we just all give in and four of us are on our phone all the time well yeah and i suppose the problem is you you you've said this you feel like lou's on her phone all the time don't you rob no comment no she's not she's on the phone less than i was but um and the girls just use any excuse to wind up the parent don't they especially if one's doing something the other one's not oh yeah if one's holier than thou yeah i know and i even if i'm not doing it the kids will jump on that as mum's on her phone all the time aren't you mark because they're just like the windups they're massive windups and they're good at it god and they're my daughters so lou's like you know getting it hardcore yeah yeah anyway um but that's what i'm up to um our small business shout out now it's time for your small business shout outs brought to you by vista print your expert print partner to help bring your ideas to life for example shopping bags get branded shopping bags basically free advertising because as parents they're constantly carrying snacks toys and random bits of rubbish around in them now here we go josh hi rob josh and michael i only found your podcast earlier this year late to the party i've binged every single episode since and i nearly caught up that is insane jesus nearly caught up to the final spirit good on you don't you stop scrolling she's gonna have a real cold turkey situation when she has to go down to two a week plus the football one well siobhan siobhan siobhan there's a football one for you so you can crack into that yeah um and and the good thing about the football one is you do not need to keep current with football because we haven't for 15 years no exactly we love the past i'd have a small new and scary business shout out for my four edge painting book edge painting business i've finally taken the scary decision to try and make my dream and hobby into full-time job i'm yet to make a sale and i'm terrified i've made the wrong decision i paint scenes onto the edges of books either by inspiration or commission these are beautifully created books to sit on your shelf and admire also create other commission work on canvas and wall murals go to coddy Coddy Wampler.
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