S13 EP6: You can't be enjoying life

7 Aug 2026 · 53 min · 19 chapters

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In short

Parenting Hell episode mixing comedy monologues, listener emails, and “boomer” travel/parenting fails, plus a discussion on charity fundraising guilt and how social media/algorithms affect life and attention.

Guests

No named guests appear in the episode. Hosts are Rob Beckett, Josh Widdicombe, and Michael (plus recurring caller/email writers).

Guest/host backgrounds (from the episode)

Casey’s mum Lou is 8 months pregnant, from Westmorland living in Wimbledon, running London Marathon for Evelina; Rob and Josh share personal anecdotes (travel, parenting, work schedules); Michael contributes stories and banter.

Key claims

Charity donations are driven more by public guilt/shame than by how impressive the fundraiser is. “You can’t be enjoying life” is framed as a jab at mainstream radio/presets vs podcasts. Social media algorithms are addictive and can trap attention.

Notable examples

A child urinating in a crowded hotel pool after being told “everyone does it”; a 12-year-old abandoned in London after parents leave bikes in France; a 2-year-old left in a taxi outside a museum in Bogota; a Yorkshire football fan using an iPad to get ahead of lobby TV viewers.

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Chapters

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Expectations of Charity Fundraising

0:30 to 1:26

Rob and Josh discuss their thoughts on charity fundraising requests.

“Amazon Health AI presents Painful Thoughts.”

Expectations of Charity Fundraising

2:52 to 3:24

Rob and Josh discuss their thoughts on charity fundraising requests.

“I'm also running for Evelina, London children's charity.”

Stories of Meeting In-Laws and Family Dynamics

3:24 to 7:48

The hosts share humorous anecdotes about meeting in-laws and family dynamics.

The Sack Race Scenario

7:48 to 14:00

Rob and Josh analyze a listener's story about a sack race involving in-laws.

“I'm going to start with getting alpha'd by an in-law.”

Humorous Conversations about Parenting

14:00 to 16:46

The hosts share funny anecdotes and puns related to parenting and personal experiences.

“And then you could say I'll be emptying my sack later.”

Humorous Conversations about Parenting

16:49 to 18:15

The hosts share funny anecdotes and puns related to parenting and personal experiences.

“Just the words probably send shivers down parents' spines.”

Travel Anecdotes and Parenting

18:51 to 21:00

Rob shares a childhood travel experience that raises questions about parenting practices.

“I have to get on this chair like I'm getting on a horse.”

Reflections on Travel and Parenting

21:00 to 28:00

Discussion about the challenges of balancing travel with family life and parenting duties.

“And it's too much knowing that I'd have, like, that four weeks blocked off, that four weeks blocked off.”

A 12-Year-Old's Journey Alone in London

28:00 to 29:39

Hear about a child's remarkable adventure navigating London solo after being left behind in France.

“I'd been given my uncle's phone number with instructions to call him when I arrived so he could guide me to his flat.”

A University Mishap: The Stabbing Incident

29:40 to 30:40

Listen to a hilarious and chaotic story of a university student's first day gone wrong.

“first week of university fails hello when my husband rich arrived on his first day at the the university of York.”
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A Poolside Parenting Fail

30:41 to 33:55

An amusing tale of how one parent's exhaustion led to a disastrous pool incident.

“It was day four of our family holiday and by this point, this is parenting fails.”

Reflecting on Parenting Norms of the Past

33:56 to 36:32

The hosts discuss changing perceptions of parenting and societal norms from past decades.

“they'd have to corner it off and put some more chemicals in.”

A Child Left in a Taxi in Colombia

36:33 to 39:46

A wild story of a toddler left in a taxi during a family stopover in Colombia.

“This happened in the mid-80s when I was about two years old.”

A Deer's Gruesome Fate on a Family Trip

39:47 to 41:15

A shocking family story involving a deer and a mother with a knife on a holiday.

“and my mum needed the headlights to see what she was doing.”

The Joys of Watching Football Abroad

41:16 to 42:01

A humorous recount of a family's experience watching football while on holiday.

“A draught already looks like it's a product of incest.”

Frustrations of Live Sports Viewing

42:01 to 44:00

Learn about the challenges of watching live sports with time delays and loud fans.

Frustrations of Live Sports Viewing

46:01 to 46:24

Learn about the challenges of watching live sports with time delays and loud fans.

“the best summer memories are made outside and L.L.”

Customer Service Revenge Stories

47:20 to 51:40

Hear amusing tales of customer service revenge from podcast listeners.

“Let's do a customer service revenge, Rob.”

Small Business Shout-Outs

51:40 to 53:27

Listen to shout-outs for various small businesses shared by listeners.

“and I wish I'd found it sooner to prepare me for the realities of parenting.”
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Transcript

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0:01Josh Widdicombe:Queen Carvania stood haloed by the morning sun. An army hung on her every word. My champions, I have sold my chariot on Carvana. Twas a lovely SUV, an inexplicably queenly offer. They're even coming to the castle to collect it. Tonight we feast. An offer you can feast on. Sell your car today on Carvana. Pick up fees, may I fly. Amazon Health AI presents Painful Thoughts. I, um, I can't stop scratching my downtown. Yeah, but I'm not itching to go downtown and tell a receptionist I'm here to talk about my downtown. Some things you'd rather type than say out loud. There's no question too embarrassing for Amazon Health AI.

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1:01Josh Widdicombe:This one goes out to all my ladies, all my multitasking mamas who need energy to show up at work and at home, all my empty nest explorers who need a little gut health support for the journey ahead. AG1 is the daily health drink designed to support whole body health with over 75 essential nutrients and pre and probiotics. So you can make the most of every day and every decade. Learn more at drinkag1.com. This episode is presented by Monzo. Josh, I love the summer holiday, aside from being asked for an ice cream every 32 seconds. Wow, Rob, that is why it's an ideal time to get them a free Monzo kids account.

1:43Josh Widdicombe:Help build confidence and independence with their money. You can instantly send money or set up regular pocket money and parents still have full visibility and control from their own Monzo app. Unlike the requests for ice creams from the kids. Monzo's award-winning kids account. search Monzo. For children aged 6 to 15, parent or guardian account needed first. UK residents only. T's and C's apply. Hello, you're listening to Parenting Hell with... Casey, can you say Rob Beckett? Rob Beckett. Can you say Josh Widdicombe? Josh Widdicombe. Well done. There we go. I like that one. I like the lady's, the tone of her voice.

2:24Josh Widdicombe:yeah hi rob josh michael this is my son casey he's 35 months old it's finally learned to save your name sort of i've been listening to podcasts for the past three years and yet to switch off halfway through an episode i'm eight months pregnant with another little boy on the way so about to dive back into the beautiful chaos all over again once i've recovered i'll be straight into training for the london marathon no assuming i can make it more than a few kilometers without wetting myself or questioning my life choices. I really don't do it. I'm also running for Evelina, London children's charity.

2:58Josh Widdicombe:Lovely. I'm originally from Westmoreland, although I've called Wimbledon home for the last five years, where I live with my husband Gary and our son Casey and soon our newest little addition. Thanks for helping keep me sane through all the madness. Georgia, 361 months. Now, I'm going to ask a question about charity fundraising. When your friends are doing something, Josh. we're not two minutes in we're a minute in yeah I know I'm hungry I can't eat because my yogurt is my tripod my heaven is my half pipe my yogurt is my tripod sorry my yogurt is my tripod my yogurt is a tripod my yogurt is a tripod I don't know why that's just really stuck in my head second york you've tried to mask Josh look a podcast is an intimate relationship between two minds and mouths that are connecting yeah and like would you want a lover to yawn in your face take what I can get what's I talking about cherry there's a question right so this is a bit of a I might have to work this out live but I've just thought of something that I think I believe now okay stop yawning that's three you tired so when you're when you get a message from a friend that says can you donate i'm doing something for charity yeah no and they go oh hi me or my wife's doing this for charity can you donate right yeah so basically what you think is i don't give a fuck what they're doing i've not even read it i've just got to pay some money so i'm not the one that hasn't yeah and i don't need the guilt of being the only one in the friendship group that hasn't paid yeah so i think do our half marathon i don't think it's going to impact the money for the cherry right yeah yeah yeah that's a good point if that's what you're doing it for i just think if you're trying to raise money for cherry the thing that drives the money is not how impressive it is it's the guilt you can put upon a friendship group yeah and i i i so i think if you want to run a marathon you want to a marathon fair enough if you're trying to raise money for charity you don't really need to do anything that that is that intense just make sure that in public forums so maybe if you're in a pub with all your mates you go have you donated yet have you donated yet then it will sort of yeah publicly shame and guilt them into donating exactly how do you pitch your donation rob do you go a few questions yeah do you go name public so if it's one that's part of a friendship group like a disgust i'm named public yeah and i'm going full name uh rob beckett or the becketts if it's for me and lou if we know both people or just you know so what i would do is someone i know that's doing something charity if most people are putting in 20 quid i'll put 50 in because i'm the bloke off the telly yeah and that'll be with my name billy big balls exactly and if i do want to donate more for any particular reason or it's something that's either close to my heart or something that i've seen that i feel oh they that deserves money i will donate more but anonymously so i'm doesn't look like i'm showing off yeah yeah well i do find this happened once i heard of a story of someone needed some money for something because there'd been some sort of crime and they're trying to replace it and this someone wasn't well and they wanted something right a child's unwell and wants a thing and say the thing cost 800 pounds whatever that thing may be right they're up to about 400 yeah right and i thought you know what and it hadn't gone up at all for ages like i looked at it last i thought they've done their friendship group sort of thing it's quite a small thing about just helping a person get through something yeah i think you know what i've had a good week bang yeah 400 anonymous you've it you what you need to get to get the thing for great isn't that a great thing that a group of people can do and i can contribute to yeah get an email after that you get the thank you for donating get an email back they've increased the donation limit you know the budget the target amount oh and I just thought you robbing I just thought you robbing bastards you've played the art strings violins out oh fucking Bobby Big Bonnocks is coming to save the day and you've bumped it up another couple of hundred quid disgusting oh my god so then since then I've sort of tapped out of it anyway what have you been up to should we do some emails let's do some emails Let's do some emails.

7:48Let's do some emails. Do you want to go one each? I'm going to start with getting alpha'd by an in-law. Getting alpha'd by an in-law. Okay. So this is when you meet your in-laws and they sort of intimidate you, alpha you, embarrass you. Hello, sexy beasts. When my husband and I first met, he came to an Easter party at my parents' friend's house. There was a sack race. No, there was not a child on site. We were just the youngest at 24 and 26. Okay. So adult games, this is. my husband it's a very weird time as well in in law to be's lives here because when you're 24 and 26 it's probably your first proper serious serious boyfriend that may lead to marriage and kids around that age eventually and i think the parents are struggling a little bit with the empty nest part of that and that's the control you know what i mean okay so my husband i've gone deep on this I've gone deep on this, but that's something I noticed.

8:42I was the first proper boyfriend to go out with my in-laws, one of their daughters, the one that was the most serious early doors. And it was a learning process for everyone involved, I think. Yeah. Because it's a big change in their life.

8:55Josh Widdicombe:What did they learn? What do you think Lou's parents learned that they didn't have in their locker when you turned up? Well, I don't think it's – I think it's accepting that your baby daughter has become a woman. It's banging Rob Beckett.

9:16Yeah. Pretty much. I was a different Rob Beckett back then, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. To the one you see before you today. You were a horny little bastard back then. No, no, no. I was absolutely, to a point, disillusionally confident in how my life was going to go when every single fact proved otherwise. But you've actually, well, I don't know what you believed. You thought you were going to be a footballer? No, no. Well, no, I was just absolutely rabidly ambitious and confident, even if deep down I was a bit of a wreck. but presented that way and said, I'm going to do this. I'm going to do that and do that.

10:02Cause I had to, I had to convince myself. And that was all going to happen.

10:06Josh Widdicombe:Who's his fucking chancer. And I was skin as, and Lou paid for everything. And I was just in there telling them what I was going to do. With this guy who thinks he's going to be a big standup comedian. Yeah. And he doesn't even wear socks. And he's like, and she's paying for everything. Yeah. And every time he walks in, he gives us a list of all the people he looks like. Cause that's how he starts every conversation. and he's in the lunchtime club what the fuck's the lunchtime it's actually a big deal lunchtime club it's a way for the best up and coming talent to be um showcased at the biggest arts festival in the world so i'm gonna go up there for a month on your daughter's per money yeah no he's not been on what the week no he hasn't got an agent he earned 118 pounds last week whilst your daughter went to school as a teacher five days a week yeah so thank you actually but don't you worry Yes, I didn't earn anything in the month of December in 2011 because there was a big snowstorm and cancelled weeks of gigs in South Hunting.

11:04But don't you worry about me. January is looking pretty full.

11:14Anyway. Oh, God. My husband and dad lined up next to each other on the start line. Okay, so this is when she first met her husband. I was already dreading the result. When the whistle went, my dad yanked my husband back by the shirt so hard, all his buttons popped off.

11:33Josh Widdicombe:Oh, my God. My dad is like rivals. My dad went hopping off in his sack, very pleasing himself, not realising that my husband, a PE teacher and shirtless, was in hot pursuit. Oh, my God. As he gained on my dad about to take victory, he was then tripped up by my dad's friend at the finish line.

11:59My dad still boasts about it today, how he beat a 26-year-old PE teacher in a sack race. Love the podcast, Justine.

12:07Josh Widdicombe:I'm going to say none of the three of them come out smelling of roses. I think the PE teacher smells of some roses because he's been attacked. And then he's gone, Joe, I'm going to try and give it my all in this race. And then he gets tripped up. Just, just, you know, this means so much to your father-in-law. Why are you chasing him down? Do you know what I mean? What would you have done? What was the best way to deal with that? So that the PE teacher comes out smelling the roses. Just go. Well, obviously you're paying for my shirt. First things first. You immediately say that. Obviously, I'm not.

12:43Do you know what I would have done? Do you want to know what I would have done? I would have just gone, okay, I'd have got out the sack, put it over my shoulder, make sure my ripped pee body was showing, and I'd just sort of walk up to him and go, congratulations on the win and thanks for ripping my shirt off. Saves a job for your daughter later tonight. Right.

13:07And then silence. complete silence

13:15I'd reckon that one yeah I think that would have gone down well I think I'd punch someone if they said that to me about my daughter

13:24Josh Widdicombe:yeah yeah well okay let's put you in these scenarios Rob yeah your daughter who's 25 yeah brings back her PE teacher boyfriend yep and it's a classic beckett summer sack race scenario absolutely yeah we're ready to go lou gets out the sacks one thing leads to the other how would you play as the dad i think i wouldn't have a one-on-one race i think the sack race needs to be like everyone lined up and like 10 of you go from like nan down to child like the the head-to-head is the problem here isn't it yeah so yeah yeah would you when you've done the joke about with him it saves a job for your daughter later yeah would you then go surprised you didn't let her let your daughter uh do this race because she's absolute dynamite in the sack that's nice bit creepier though isn't it do you think well i think you were hunching down wiggling your glasses well that's sexy yeah oh so you've been sorry i I forgot you were being sexy.

14:32Yeah.

14:33Josh Widdicombe:And then you could say I'll be emptying my sack later. Okay. That's another one. And you just keep doing them at him all night. I just keep doing them at him. Yeah. You just made me spit coffee on my keyboard. I don't get that one, Michael. Michael, that doesn't work as a pun. Get back to editing, mate. We'll do the puns, Randy. You could say... Your daughter really spat on my keyboard after that set phrase. You can also say, you're like your daughter, quick to finish. Oh, yeah. You're like your daughter in the sack. You need another man to come in to finish her off. Yeah, why? Really? Because she got tripped up.

15:16He got tripped up, remember? Oh, okay, yeah. Tripped up by his mate. Yeah. Is this nice for women to listen to? Not really. Oh, man. Right. next one i had i had a black cab driver the other day that like has only just downloaded google maps the day before it was only such a luddite and i was like all right what do you do then do you listen to like podcasts when you're driving about or music or like you've got spotify with no no no just got these four presets i was like what he went he basically got presets on his radio yeah and it was smooth jazz something like forces i've didn't even heard of it and then gb news and I was like I went mate you can't I went you're I went you can't be enjoying life I went what I mean that's all you're listening to all day every day and he went well what's podcast then I went he went because he was going yeah because I listen to it but it gets annoying because sometimes you're listening to it and you feel a bit like they're just like telling you what they're told to say like you know because he's like different

16:23Josh Widdicombe:how's GB News working out for you well that's what I said that's what he was saying so I said If you listen to a podcast, people can say whatever they want. What's a podcast? I thought he was saying that about podcasts. No, he was saying that about like mainstream radio channels. Sorry, someone at the door. One second. I'll be back. Oh, so real. A lot of thigh then. That might be the last time we see him again.

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18:23Josh Widdicombe:This one goes out to all my ladies, all my multitasking mamas who need energy to show up at work and at home, all my empty nest explorers who need a little gut health support for the journey ahead. AG1 is the daily health drink designed to support whole body health with over 75 essential nutrients and pre and probiotics. So you can make the most of every day and every decade. Learn more at drinkag1.com.

18:55Apologies. What was it? I have to get on this chair like I'm getting on a horse. Yeah, what is the chair? It's just a normal chair, but it's so close with this screen behind me. The old marble cake. What was the delivery? Lego. Do you want to see it? For yourself? What's that? For yourself? I can't coach myself. Love it. I can't remember what I bought. I bought it on the way to work one day because I was sad. And I thought the sweet cheer me up. I'll get back. Do you want to guess what it is? Is that fun? It's going to be like... I'm opening this up like an absolute savage.

19:34Josh Widdicombe:It's going to be like, I don't know, the Bourne Identity or one of those kind of weird grown-up ones. Weird grown-up ones? Yeah. Oh, I know. It's in another box. I hate this. Will they send a box in a box? It's not ideal, is it? let's leave it i think it's et all right there we go all identity wasn't eating a pinball machine next question um here's a question about lego go on because i was doing some lego with my son right we're making a helicopter to instructions right as the art of building your own lego kind of died a bit and now it is just following instructions when i was a kid it used to be that you'd have a huge draw where all your lego sets have kind of gone together and then you'd build it like we would build a train set but you don't really do that with lego much anymore do you so my kids now they build little scene sets and then they use that and then rebuild it and break it down and create stuff but i don't i just like the process of slowing my brain down and yeah i mean something so when you're going to build et in your in your buffer lifestyle uh but so well September is looking, September, October, November are looking sweet as an absolute nut for me.

20:46That's my, like, what the equivalent of like David Bowie going to like Mauritius for four months to sort of just like reconnect with himself and nature. That's going to be me, but I'll be at home doing the school run and building Lego. So what do you reckon? Gig start mid-September? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

21:08Josh Widdicombe:well just note that down michael note that down no i might do a couple of gigs but not i'm not gonna write a tour but i'll do the odd gig if i like doing a gig here we go here we go he's back i'm back back on the announce before christmas you can't you know you can't deny what you are and i'm a freely freewheeling raconteur now i'm just trying to create have more freedom in what i do as opposed to being signed up for loads of work that i have to deliver years and months i I basically, for five, well, probably for the last six years, I've had every year mapped out two or three years in advance.

21:42Yeah. And it's too much knowing that I'd have, like, that four weeks blocked off, that four weeks blocked off. But this is a bit more, trying to be a bit more loose of it and enjoy it more rather than feel like an obligation. Yeah. Because it's too much. I can't live and work like this. I've been working, like, for the last few years forever. It's just madness. Yeah. There's no point. I'm going to float about playing golf like Jimmy Tarbuck. yeah although you are trying to monetize that golf yeah but i'm enjoying that and it's no i can do it whenever i want it's no pressure i could just stop it live at the apollos ended rob

22:17Josh Widdicombe:it has hasn't it well there's doing one more series and it's done 23 years 22 years would you put yourself in if they said rob final series well i haven't got any i haven't got any material so not at the moment no but no so it's hard you know it takes a while they finish with jack d wouldn't you? Yeah, they've got to. He's the one who started it all. Yeah. But I look forward to seeing live at the Apollo on TLC in about a year and a half. Of course. It's an inevitability. Yeah, it's revived Mock the Week. Better than ever. Actually, I think it is better than ever Mock the Week now. I think Mock the Week.

22:51Mock Freedom.

22:52Josh Widdicombe:I think Mock the Week on TLC has been brilliant. Yeah. Shall we do more emails? Playground shaggers, Josh. This is a little sample one. We're going to save them all up for a big episode. So any Playground Shagger stories, let us know. Dear Rob, Josh and Michael, I don't have any kids, but love listening to the pod on my commute. I especially enjoy the Playground Shagger stories. Please keep me anonymous as this is too specific. This took place in the 90s at my primary school located in a small village. It's the type of place where everyone knows everyone's business and gossip fuels locals. Lovely description.

23:25Gossip fuels locals.

23:27Josh Widdicombe:Lovely three word description of a town. Gossip fuels the locals. It just creates a vivid image of where this is taking place. My yogurt is my tripod. My yogurt is my tripod. The headmaster we'll call Mr H was removed from the school due to fraudulent activity. Oh. This led to outrage from a number of school mums who thought Mr H was innocent and should be reinstated. What do they know? I don't know. But these mums tied yellow ribbons on a tree around the village and wore ribbons in solidarity with Mr. H. Isn't that what people put up for, like, missing children or something? Yeah, that is. It's quite dark.

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24:06Anyway, it became an uncomfortable and sometimes hostile drop-off for many parents who were harassed by the yellow ribbon mums for not showing support for Mr. H.

24:15Josh Widdicombe:Oh, my God. It turns out the main yellow ribbon mum. By the way, they're not wrong about this. It can be identified as a story. There's no way. Wait, I mean, this has never happened anywhere else. You've got to be anonymous for this. Well, it turns out the main Yellow Ribbon mum was having an affair with Mr H. Of course. I'm not sure how the news got out, but she left her husband and then had a short-lived relationship with Mr H after the news leaked. The primary school then hired an interim headteacher from a nearby school. We'll call him Mr J. Well, there must be something in the water because Mr J then had an affair with a parent from the PTA.

24:50Oh, my God. He didn't stick around long after the news broke, but no ribbons this time. Good thing this took place in the 90s, as today it will be all over social media.

24:59Josh Widdicombe:Do we know if Mr. H did, what was it? Fraudulent activity. Fraudulent activity. Wow. Yellow ribbons. I bet that the problem is, if Mr. H was innocent of fraudulent activity, the moment you sleep with the head of the yellow ribbon crew, you're just, your campaign is over. Should we do flying solo as a child, Rob? Yeah. Hello. After hearing Josh's story about being put on a plane to South Africa at the age of 10, I thought I'd share my own. I forgot that happened. It was 1982, the year before I was born, and I was 12 years old, traveling around Europe with my mum and dad one summer. They weren't your average parents.

25:38Josh Widdicombe:Before leaving Dublin, they rented three bikes, rolled them onto a ferry to France, and simply kept going. The plan worked fine until my bike was stolen in the south of France. from that point on we began zigzagging across europe on train instead at the end of our trip we boarded the magic bus from athens to london oh my god fuck that absolutely f that up the people do that travel across the world race across the world and they're I was just a 22-hour coach from Thailand to Laos. That is a show I would struggle to do. You don't like travelling. So I rung your agent the other day to talk about something, and normally she always thinks it's bad news when I ring.

26:27Josh Widdicombe:Yeah, I bet she does. Because I'll be like going, oh, you need to look out for Rom or Tom or Josh, you know. And I went, no, everyone's absolutely fine. Don't worry, no panic. Because obviously I work with a lot of clients. So if I know one of you is having a bit of a tough time, I'll always like check in on you guys with her. So she always dreads my calls. Anyway, she was, she said that you, you said after the Rom Romage thing, you loved it, but you couldn't do a travel log. You find the traveling too much as a series. I think I do. Do you know what it is? It isn't when you're there. It's when you get back.

26:58Yeah. I was just fucked.

27:00Josh Widdicombe:I was just fucked. And I had to get my, and I'm like, then you're just into your life. and I love it when I'm there because you're in a bubble yeah but whenever I've gone away to film when I get back I'm like oh man it's hard to get back in me and Lou really clash because she gets in her own little like a rhythm then I come back and I'm trying to be helpful but actually I'm just in the way so it's like it's that's the hardest bit about the travel one missing the kids but also when you come back you're just in a suitcase out of a suitcase and especially when doing loads you're like you've gone again you know what i mean but this will come back on me when i do a travel log but no but you'll be fine you'll get you the thing is that the worrying thing is though josh if you travel a lot you get dangerously used to it and then that becomes your life and identity and then that's what drags people away from their families it's not people that don't like their family or don't like their kids or don't like being at home but you just you just get so used to it that becomes your lifestyle and a lot of these people that work away from home a lot it just it's difficult yeah so on the final morning my dad casually told me that he and my mum were getting off in northern france since they've sent their bikes ahead that meant i'd have to finish the journey on my own including including the border crossing into dover they went on the coach so it went from france to dover and they're going to meet her in dover just so they could ride their bike so that's a long way from probably where you there's quite a lot of france to do as Well, they waved goodbye as the bus pulled away, leaving me to continue towards Camden Town alone.

28:33Josh Widdicombe:What? I'd been given my uncle's phone number with instructions to call him when I arrived so he could guide me to his flat. How old was this kid? Twelve. This should be illegal. They should go to prison. This is 1982, Rob. Yeah, but that's not allowed. That's 1982. It's not allowed. I'm sorry. That was terrible parenting to the point of should be criminally prosecuted. Well, it's 1982. You've abandoned a 12-year-old child in a foreign country. I'd been given my uncle's phone number. Oh, thank God. By the time we reached London. Actually, take that back. She's got her uncle's phone number. She's got her uncle's landline.

29:08Josh Widdicombe:By the time we'd reached London, it was already dark. I stepped off the bus into a city I didn't know, found a phone box, and made a call. Two trains later, I emerged from an escalator to see my uncle waiting on the other side of the turnstile. The relief I felt at that moment was overwhelming. as it turned out my parents had decided to spend an extra few days in france fuck it out so i remained in london over the next several days i explored the city on my own it was an ironing experience that gave me a healthy dose of independence and some much-needed street smarts cheers steve yeah yeah you process the trauma however you want

29:47first week of university fails hello when my husband rich arrived on his first day at the

29:52Josh Widdicombe:the university of York. He was unpacking all his new kitchen stuff using a knife. Oh no. As he cut through some packaging, he slipped and stabbed himself deep in the thigh. Thigh. At this exact moment, his first new flatmate walked into the kitchen to introduce herself. Rich surreptitiously pulled the knife out of his thigh. The worst thing you can do. And greeted the flatmate cheerily. He pretended he wasn't in terrible pain until his flatmate pointed out a horribly bloodstained jeans and said i think you're bleeding completely embarrassed rich admitted what had happened and two of his brand new flatmates had to help him hobble across campus to the doctor's surgery it earned him the long-standing nickname stabby mcgee and became hilarious and embarrassing story recounted throughout the year of the flat love the show sophie from york stabby mcgee stabby mcgee right do you want a um parenting fails it's a long one but I reckon we've got it in us.

30:51We deserve it. Hello, you sexy relatable pair. It was day four of our family holiday and by this point, this is parenting fails. By this point, I'd reached that specific level of parental exhaustion where your standards begin to quietly dissolve in the heat. We were sitting by the pool, prime sun lounger territory secured at an ungodly hour that morning. And for the first time all day, I actually managed to sit down. Sunshine and cocktail within reach. My two boys, five and six at the time, temporarily entertained. It was suspiciously peaceful. Then my youngest son appeared. Mummy, I need the toilet.

31:23Now, ordinarily, this would be a completely reasonable request. However, this child had already asked to go to the toilet five times that day. Each trip involved me drying him off, wrestling him out of his UV all-in-one suit, marching across what felt like several postcodes of resort grounds to the nearest bathroom, only for him to either decide he didn't actually need a wee, get distracted by the ice cream stand, or produce roughly three drops of urine after a 15-minute expedition. I'd reached my limit so in what I can only describe as one of the worst parenting decisions of my life I leaned in and whispered just go in the pool everyone does great great now important note when I said this I assumed he understood the unspoken societal agreement this would happily happen discreetly underwater like every other feral child on holiday guys he did not before Before I could process what was happening, he marched with absolute confidence to the edge of the very crowded pool.

32:18Families everywhere, couples relaxing, people on inflatables. Then, in horrifying slow motion, he stood tall like he was about to make an announcement. He unzipped his full body sun protection suit, pulled it down, reached in, and extracted his willy with the confidence of a man who had trained his whole life for this moment. For approximately two full seconds, the entire pool seemed frozen in confusion. then a spectacular fountain of wheat arched directly into the pool. Not a subtle trickle, not a discreet little accent, a full-pressure ornamental water feature. I've never moved so fast in my life.

32:56I launched myself off the lounger like I was being fired from a cannon, springing barefoot across scorching tiles while shouting, No, no, no, no, not like that. Oh, no. But it was too late. The damage was done. He looked at me midstream, utterly confused, as if I was the unreasonable and said in front of everyone in the pool, you said everyone does it, which was difficult to argue with while he was actively urinating in front of half the hotel. Oh, God. By the time I reached in, the pool had started emptying at record speed. I spent the rest of the holiday avoiding eye contact with everyone at the result and decided to have more beach days after that incident at the pool.

33:37Oh, my God. Thanks to the pod, guys. That's a great parenting fail. I've listened since lockdown, Jess Carter.

33:43Josh Widdicombe:Do you think they then need to change all the water in the pool? How does that work? Well, because we have a shit, they scoop it out, and no one's allowed in it for half an hour. They're calling it off, don't they? I think if they've seen the wee happen, they'd have to corner it off and put some more chemicals in. Do you know what I mean? Because it is, you know, we know that people do that. But if you've seen it happen, you're all the lifeguard dude. The lifeguard dude. Josh, I want to go back to those boomers in France. Yeah. These boomers we get of like mad things people did, and they left their kid up in Camden for an extra few days.

34:22In the 80s and 70s, did parents love their children less or was everyone doing it so it just felt like the norm? What is leading to this? They didn't love them less. Because are there people that had children in the 80s listening to that thinking that these people are horrendous as well and we're only getting the minority or was everyone

34:44Josh Widdicombe:doing it well i don't think you're thinking that people are horrendous and i don't think i think the people are horrendous i know you do i think those people are horrendous so i don't because i think that's the culture in the same way probably that were you to play me something from the 90s that would now be considered absolutely appalling a television show that would now be considered appalling that we used to like that we used to like i don't think oh you know that i used to drink from my shoe in nightclubs and do a shoonie when i was like 18 yeah so it's just the culture and the check and so i don't think it is really like i mean i don't know because i wasn't there so maybe that was outlandish and wrong and bad um and i wonder you know in 30 years whether people will be like you know they used to fucking let their kids go on their phone and do this ipads yeah yeah i do think phones and ipads and the addiction of these i i'm so addicted i've deleted tiktok i'm so addicted to instagram as well and it's horrible because i still have to have it for work stuff because i have to post certain things especially if you're you know promoting what you're doing trying to sell tickets or you're doing like a collaboration and stuff and there like there is some really cool stuff on there as well but then i get just trapped in that algorithm it's the algorithms the problem it's so addictive and i and i and i think we'll look back on that the way people on phones the way people used to smoke on trains like it's so hard not to yeah exactly and so i think yeah it's a cultural thing it's a it's a an era and cultural thing and long may we you know gain traction by reading out emails from people that in the past were probably completely normal, but now we can judge.

36:32Do you want another boomer while we're on it? Yeah. Hi, Rob and Josh. This happened in the mid-80s when I was about two years old. We were travelling back to the UK from Peru. It's Paddings and Bears emailed in. Yeah. Where we lived because of my dad's job. We had a stopover for a few hours in Bogota, Colombia. Bogota. Bogota, sorry. Now, when I think of Bogota, I think drug cartels, guerrilla movements and political violence. My parents apparently thought, perfect place for a bit of sightseeing. So they took a taxi from the airport to a nearby museum. On the journey, I fell asleep, leaving them with every parent's nightmare, waking a toddler from a nap.

37:12For most parents, there is only one option. You wake the child and deal with the inevitable meltdown. But apparently there was another option available in 1980s Colombia. They left me in the taxi. What? Yep, a two-year-old child asleep in a taxi in Bogota with a driver they'd never met before. And because this story wasn't quite insane enough, the driver also kindly offered to look after all their luggage. That is wild. So off went my parents with my older brother for a leisurely wander around a museum while I remained parked outside with a complete stranger. That is mental. To this day, my mum insists it was fine because nothing happened.

37:53the thing is nobody actually knows that

38:02the thing nobody has a faintest clue what happened during that half hour for all anyone knows i spent 30 minutes helping to run an international cartel before being returned to the same exact parking space the 80s were absolutely wild and despite stories like this part of me still thinks i'd rather be bringing my kids up then than now i mean because really someone could have put stuff in the not not not that everyone in columbia is involved in drugs but in the 80s i think they might have been but they could have put like drugs in the suitcases as well obviously columbia has a

38:34Josh Widdicombe:reputation that's a tiny part of it but anywhere to leave someone with a like i i think the luggage is a bad enough uh decision but there we go well i i get i get though say that you're you're paying the cab driver to wait anyway maybe so go look we'll pay you to wait and take us back to the airport if it's only a stopover but i think i'd sit in the car with the baby and let the other two go to the museum yes i'm not that fussed about a museum no do you know what i mean i i to be honest any excuse not to go to the museum would be ideal for me yeah is it air cons probably no air con in the 80s no just a little toddler having a nap in a car anyway i'll enjoy it do another one yeah one very early morning we were leaving in the car there's always cars in it to go on a family holiday and came across a deer that had been hit but was still alive oh no okay my sister and i seven and eight were already upset the situation before my mum whipped a knife out the glove box and jumped out the car she's gonna she's gonna have to kill the deer my scottish daddy's squeamish cut from a very different cloth to my Danish barbarian mum.

39:44Not wanting to watch the execution, he reversed the car about 100 metres, but it was dark and my mum needed the headlights to see what she was doing. Oh, no. She sprinted back through the dark towards us, wielding the knife like Freddy Krueger and demanded he drive back to the poor deer on the road. She's doing a good thing. In a brief pit stop before our holiday started, we watched as a family as she executed the deer with her bare hands. Oh, fucking God. She returned to her seat as if nothing had happened, We set off on a wholesome holiday. Keep it sexy relatable, Fergus. Oh, my God. The Scandies are like that, though.

40:18They killed and did a thing on a giraffe at a zoo. Did you hear about that? No. They did a live, and what's it called when they open up an animal and go through it?

40:32Josh Widdicombe:Autopsy. Autopsy. And it got bad. In 2014, they euthanized an 18-month-old healthy giraffe called Marius. And then they did like, the carcass was just dissected publicly at the zoo in front of visitors, including children. Oh, my God. The meat was fed to the zoo carnivores. Well, that's the grimmest thing I've ever heard. Well, they said that the reason they did it, his genes were too common in the European breeding program and they're keeping him risked inbreeding. I don't deny that. I don't know what I'm talking about. I'd be quite interested to see what incesting draughts look like. Yeah. What would come out, because they're a bit nutty already.

41:15Imagine an incest draught. A draught already looks like it's a product of incest. Doesn't it?

41:22Josh Widdicombe:It is. Rob. Yeah. Would you like to judge a solidarity or solid Karen? Yes. My fiancée and I just got back from our holiday in Corfu and love to hear your opinions on the situation I encountered while watching England. Our hotel had a big TV in the lobby and was full of English fans waiting to watch England versus Norway. We had to get a seat out on the terrace and view the TV through the window. It was packed. Vibes were vibing. Big Guinnesses were, baby Guinnesses were flowing. From the back of the terrace, there was a family with a dad with the deepest Yorkshire accent I've ever heard. It travelled far.

41:58Josh Widdicombe:They were watching the game on their iPad. Absolutely fine. but they were 45 seconds ahead who were the yorkshire family yeah who watching on the ipad when norway scored you heard oh for fuck's sake annoying but brushed off when england scored he celebrated and ruined it for 70 plus english fans watching on the lobby tv chance filled the room turn it off turn it off fucking turn it off etc he was so vocal and winding everyone up shouting about fouls corners yellow cards 45 seconds before everyone else game ended and it was left at that three nights later we play argentina oh god i guess who's primed waiting with his ipad at the back of the terrace no the lob lobby tv so was lagging so many people went out on the terrace and had the game up on their phones we were all a couple of minutes ahead when gordon scored everyone celebrated as quietly as they could out respect for the lobby fans but guess who didn't get the memo when argentina was scored i had enough of this knobhead so i walked to the back of the terrace talk about is it about something else and approached him and his family now for context i'm a five foot five girl against six foot six yorkshire man yeah uh what i wanted to say was shut the fuck up you fucking prick you're ruining it for everyone but i was a waitress so my social skills have developed to deal with knobheads me hi sorry i understand you're really passionate about the game but you're ruining it for everyone down there and inside i know it's hard but would you mind trying to keep it down a little so i replied sorry we have it on our ipad so we're ahead yes i understand that but we do as well i'm being respectful to people around us wife i've told him to be quiet but he's a massive football fan i cut her off here do you not think everyone is also a massive football fan i've asked him so he'll try said the wife i walked away here the man didn't once look at me his wife was a spokesperson for a group suddenly enough i didn't hear a peep after that was i right to try and pull him up on it stay sexy relatable katie um i i think someone needed to say something there is a problem with this this day and age when things aren't at the same time so when i was watching the final uh i was watching it through iplayer or itvx or whatever channel i was watching it on i was watching it because our sky isn't linked up at the moment because of um building work obviously of course you're laying on the floor when i was watching on tv yeah and um and then when spain scored in the final it was such a shit final we're talking about football again aren't we yeah sorry i well you i got a text 30 seconds before saying thank god all right so i was behind but i only realized when people were texting yes and that in itself it kind of kills the excitement but it's quite thrilling to watch it play out like that well that was what we had that when we were coming back from vegas and we was watching the mexico game i was watching it before checking so i couldn't check in yet and i had up my ipad there was someone ahead with faster connection and they cheered and then we were waiting and it was a bit of a buzz actually and then funny when um we were watching the game and then a lady come out of the lift sort of dark hair a mexican like latino looking lady and she looked over to us she went smiled and she went sorry about that and we went what and then we looked down mexico scored she found out about it before she got in the lift walked out of the lift and she went sorry about that and as she said that bang I was like oh fuck I actually got a photo with her on the plane I'm trying to find it but I think it was right to say something yeah I agree the best summer memories are made outside and L.L.

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47:19Right.

47:20Josh Widdicombe:One more email. Let's do a customer service revenge, Rob. And then you do your one. and then we'll do a small business shout out hi rob josh and michael just wanted to share my customer service revenge story it was around 2008 i was 18 years old working for an energy call center the pay was good but most customers were rude and awful we used to hate martin lewis as whenever he was on this morning discussing the latest energy news the phones would go mad anyway after two years i handed my notice and it was my very last working day one particular customer called and was being so rude to me her name was something like miss sifter and at the end of the call i changed it on the system to mrs shitter this was back in the day when you'd get a paper bill so i took great pleasure in knowing the next 30 days her door her bill would be landing on her doormat with mrs shitter on the envelope i did feel bad for whatever colleague would end up taking the next call from her though but it made me feel a lot better love you all in the podcast and P.S.

48:24Josh Widdicombe:I reckon most listeners would agree we don't care when you veer away from talking about parenting. If anything, it's your best work. F the Reddit haters, Kim from Gosport. Oh, thank you, Kim from Gosport. Talking of small towns. Yeah. Weird local town traditions. Hello, sexy men. In Whitby, we celebrate the Whitby regatta. What started as a rowing race has become full of lots of weird traditions. When the town can afford it, we even get a visit from the Red Arrows. Oh, nice. I wonder how much that is to get the red arrows for a fly past yeah can't be much can it a lot of planes a lot of people yeah a lot of planes a lot of people sounds like they're desperate for a little day out anyway how often are the red arrows working they do like the queen yeah they're around a lot like the king I'll never get used to it they're like the Harlem Globetrotters do they change but you never like see them do an event like you know an England game or something like you very rarely see the red arrows 11 grand plus insurance a red-eyed flypast does not have a standard fixed price tag but a RAF for charging guidelines so it lists a full display package around 11 grand and 2.5 grand for insurance while transit route flypast are often free if conditions are met oh so if they're already going somewhere you can ask to reroute round oh here we go there we go so you just need 11 grand for that yeah um a large pole is this is weird traditions a large pole is covered in vaseline and oil and placed over the harbour with a small flag at the end on the opposite side of the harbour are cocktail bars where people gather to watch the famous greasy pole people mainly men take it in turns to try and retrieve the flag from the end of the pole great great great great with the majority of people landing in the harbour if you manage to get the flag at the end you win a crate of beer back in the day they would cover the pole in boat oil abigail featherstone that sounds like i like that as a tradition yeah i'd love to watch that i'd love to watch that i'm sure it's on youtube i'd love to see a live stream of it yeah um i think that's about us rob small business small biz small biz small biz hi you pair of slags i want to shout out my wife's business potty about pets.

50:38Beth started a small business while making prosthetic limb covers. What the fuck? And after a year, she managed to turn her hobby into a full-time job. She makes bespoke pottery that captures the lightness of your pet from vases, mugs to cake toppers. She has battled so hard to make this work and would love a shower. Her Instagram is potty.about.pets. And her website is pottyaboutpets.co.uk. So she can make... I'm going to have a look at this because it's hard to get your head around. Oh, they're great. Yeah? I like them. There you go. Oh, you'd love this, Joshua, your cats. You've got to get one.

51:16Okay, great. Potty About Pets. They look really cool. I like the mugs. On Instagram. I'm on the website. Oh, they can make your cats into a Christmas decoration. Look at that. Oh, yes. She's got lovely nails as well. Lovely nails in all the photos. Oh, well, there we go. Good on you. Good luck with that. Thank you, Owen, for sending that in about Beth's business.

51:38Josh Widdicombe:Dear Rob, Josh, and Michael, I've started listening to the pod just after the arrival of my little one, and I wish I'd found it sooner to prepare me for the realities of parenting. He is 18 months old now, and I've just caught up with the back catalogue, aiming to be up to date by the time I see Josh on tour in Norwich. That was a while ago. I'm hoping for some small business shout-out from my cousin Ben and his small business Benissimo Pizza. they are a small family run business selling gourmet stone baked italian pizzas from a converted horse box lovely lovely they are honestly delicious with a gorgeous sourdough crust you could hire them for events in norfolk suffolk cambridge and surrounding areas think parties weddings festivals pub quizzes whatever you need super proud of my cousin for setting this up and he's recently quit his previous job to focus full-time on the venture find them on Instagram or Facebook just search Benissimo pizza B-N-I-S-S-I-M-O Tanto Amore and stay sexy and relatable Louise 374 months love it I love pizza I'm going to have pizza tomorrow I'm so hungry that talking about pizza there and we've got what's your pizza?

52:43Josh Widdicombe:we've got to record some ads but my fucking yogurt is my tripod mate you're so close to that yogurt see you next time bye

52:58I see you.

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