S13 EP7: The one where Rob gets a speeding ticket in Germany

10 Aug 2026 · 57 min · 22 chapters

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In short

Rob’s Germany road trip and the chaos of family travel—heat, theme parks, driving stress, and a speeding ticket—plus tangents on parenting, school shoe culture, and “breaking the seal” (alcohol/peeing myths).

Guests

Bella and Rob Beckett and Josh (Willicombe). The episode is hosted by Rob Beckett and Josh Willicombe; Bella appears briefly saying names. No other named guests are interviewed.

Guest backgrounds

Rob and Josh are comedians/podcast hosts (“Parenting Hell”); they discuss their kids and family life while traveling.

Key claims

Germany’s autobahn speed limits and village speed limits can trigger fines; Rob believes “breaking the seal” is a myth and explains alcohol’s effect via vasopressin. Theme-park waits at Europa-Park are manageable (~40 minutes). School shoe choice reduces morning arguments and boosts confidence.

Notable examples

36°C theme park heat and extreme body odor; Eurotunnel/Le Shuttle toilet issues; champagne tours in Reims; Europa-Park roller coasters and tickets via a social post; Rob getting fined after driving 22 km/h in a 20 zone; dodgems whiplash and kids’ playdate mix-ups with two “Josh” friends.

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Chapters

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Podcasting Space and Efficiency

1:00 to 1:28

Rob and Josh discuss efficiency and podcasting setups amidst kids' noise.

“Queen Carvania stood haloed by the morning sun.”

Podcasting Space and Efficiency

2:58 to 4:48

Rob and Josh discuss efficiency and podcasting setups amidst kids' noise.

“But then that disorganisation leads to inefficiency.”

Holiday Plans and Experiences

4:48 to 6:06

Rob shares his recent trip to Germany and the challenges faced.

“Well, I'd say hosted by two men doesn't narrow it down.”

Theme Parks and Heat Waves

6:06 to 8:06

Rob discusses the discomfort of visiting a theme park during a heat wave.

“I've still got my headphones in, so I can hear what you say.”

Toilet Experiences and Running

8:06 to 14:01

A humorous conversation about toilet situations during travels and running.

“You're away on holiday in your back zoo.”

A Cliffside Dilemma

14:01 to 14:50

Rob shares a humorous story about a challenging moment while running in Cornwall.

“I was on a cliff top in Cornwall, running along the coastal path, and I thought, this timing's not ideal.”

Champagne Adventures in France

14:51 to 18:00

Rob recounts a family trip to the Champagne region, detailing challenges faced with kids and unexpected stops.

“So we went at Verve Clico, which is quite a pretty little garden, some drinks.”

Strictly Come Dancing Realities

18:01 to 20:00

A discussion about Rob's experiences with working on Strictly and humorous interactions regarding his schedule.

“that film where I played a parrot at the Grand Prix of Europe.”

Finding Solutions in Everyday Problems

20:01 to 21:04

Rob reflects on how slowing down can help solve problems more effectively.

“And I was like, oh, no, I can't do Saturdays because I'm doing Strictly.”

The Autobahn Experience

21:05 to 22:35

Rob shares a funny anecdote about driving on the Autobahn and dealing with a dirty windshield.

“I've got that, or a big work event that you're worried about, you're out of your depth.”
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The Autobahn Experience

23:14 to 24:31

Rob shares a funny anecdote about driving on the Autobahn and dealing with a dirty windshield.

“I'll be honest, I try, but they might as well be speaking a different language.”

Fun at Europa Park

25:07 to 28:00

Rob describes his enjoyable visit to Europa Park and reflects on his time working on a related film.

“So they've done, like, the Slinky Dog in Orlando.”

Navigating Kids' Activities

28:00 to 28:57

Discussing the challenges and joys of participating in kids' activities.

“Are you just going to try and swerve it?”

Road Trip to Germany

28:57 to 29:50

Rob shares his experience driving to Germany with his kids.

“so I bought a little – Lou bought it, actually, a little, like, metal plastic thing that connects to the headrest, and then you can open it and put the iPad in.”

Mindfulness on the Autobahn

29:50 to 30:03

Rob humorously reflects on calming techniques while driving fast.

“Also, I always get – do you know what I'm saying?”

Getting a Speeding Ticket

30:03 to 31:21

Rob recounts getting a speeding ticket in Germany despite careful driving.

“Beat yourself off in your mind, going 80 down the autobahn.”

The Perils of Dodgems

31:21 to 36:18

A comedic discussion on the chaos of riding dodgems with kids.

“Where you like fall into sync with someone and you just keep hitting them.”

Finding Playdate Friends

36:18 to 38:11

Rob and Josh humorously navigate the complexities of arranging playdates for their kids.

“Anyway, so the kids' friends that they made friends with have both got the same name.”

School Days Reflection

38:11 to 41:39

Rob and Josh reflect on their school days and the importance of shoes.

“please text me to remind me so I can sort it out.”

Road Trip Shenanigans

42:36 to 56:01

Rob shares a hilarious story about a road trip filled with challenges and comedic moments.

“Yeah, I mean, the smell I'll give you, but then the way they move, each egg moves differently.”

Fluffball's Health Update

56:01 to 56:46

Rob and Josh share concerns about Fluffball's health issues.

“Got a bit fluffball up from the vet, but that's another story.”

Fluffball's Health Update

56:50 to 57:38

Rob and Josh share concerns about Fluffball's health issues.

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3:05I'm unprofessional. True. Well, yeah, well, I'd say... No, I'm not unprofessional. I'm disorganised. You're disorganised. But then that disorganisation leads to inefficiency. Yeah, what I don't like, I suppose. Because at the moment, Josh, you're currently in a room where the door doesn't shut. Yeah. And it's quite echoey and we can hear your children playing. And I'd say that isn't an efficient podcasting space. No, but I suppose the other argument is I've given up an hour of my holiday to keep us on track, which is a pretty, whereas other people wouldn't have done that. So that's quite an efficient thing to do.

3:41Or quite noble, quite noble of you. Noble, yeah. Well, no, not Noble. I'd say it's the least you'd expect of two, three people, you know, running one of the biggest podcasts in Europe is to be able to give up an hour of their holiday. Yeah, an hour of the holiday, yeah. But we're here now. Why do we always say in Europe? It feels weird. Let's just say it. Because there's much bigger podcasts in the rest of the world. That's why. No, let's say in the world, excluding America. Let's take, I reckon, I don't reckon that there's many bigger. What is it, EMEA? Europe, Middle East. When I do award ceremonies, it always says, like, the vice president of EMEA.

4:21And I'm like, what the fuck's that? But I think it's called Europe, Middle East, Malaysia. EMEA. It's Africa, the last day. It's Africa, the last day. Okay, so we're the biggest podcast in Europe, the Middle East, and Africa. Michael, is there any bigger podcasts in Qatar? The biggest comedy entertainment podcast. Oh, it's getting there. Let's start. It's getting worse. But hosted by two men and talking about their kids is just pathetic. Well, I'd say hosted by two men doesn't narrow it down. It doesn't exclude many podcasts. They say what you want about men. They know their way around a fucking podcast.

4:57So. Why don't more women do podcasts? Because in my experience. Well, Marina's beating us, isn't she? Presumably, Michael. Let's not talk about competition. Who's Marina? Marina Hyde. What is that noise? What is that noise? That's insane. It's a child with a whistle. Right. I'm pretty relaxed, but a kid with a whistle is where I draw the line. Okay, let's stop now. I can't put up with a kid with a whistle just normally in my house. Never mind. Well, that's because I'm more chilled out, aren't I, these days, Rob? Is it not an argument that you get the whistle now? No, I don't think it'll be used again.

5:34I can't see it being used again. What, by a five-year-old? But surely it'll be used again. I think it's, judging by the power of the whistle, that was a two-year-old. I want to say you've got other kids in the house. Oh, he's using it again. Oh, yeah, there's loads of people here. Right, okay. So is it worth getting rid of the whistle or...? Let's see if it goes again. Okay. Something's good to... That's a bell. That's a bell.

6:03You've got a percussion class. I'll go get a bell. And the whistle. I've still got my headphones in, so I can hear what you say. Yeah, no, don't worry. If they've got an air horn, maybe grab that as well. Well, Vuvuzela, if there's any Vuvuzelas. I can feel your stress coming through. I'm a pretty relaxed guy, but a whistle in a room without a door that shuts. He's going to have to go and be the bad guy. I'd say, though, if I was staying in Josh Willicom's house as a friend and he had to do a podcast for an hour, I'd go, right, let me take the kids up and bark. Fuck it, here it comes. There we go.

6:44Good chance to get my tea, actually. I just left it out of hand. Look, Rob, it's all grammable content. Especially after your hatred of inefficiency. My hatred of inefficiency? We still haven't read this email out because we're so inefficient. So there are still people and kids talking about what's the plan. Yeah, I've got to say, we need to be quiet. Okay. I like this. Listen to this. I like it when Josh is assertive. Can we shut that door? Thank you. He's too polite. I'd go, look. I think you're so polite. Chill, Josh. Yeah. I'd go, look, the hallway's a fucking disgrace of a place to play. Get in the garden now.

7:23They weren't playing. They were leading a one-year-old down the stairs, so it's difficult to go. Oh, right, OK. Yeah, yeah. Can you? Yeah. Yeah. Why don't you fucking pick up the kid, accept I can't walk yet and get out my way I'm about to broadcast I'm about to broadcast to the nation and by the nation I mean England, Qatar and and Chad Huge and Chad We're huge and Chad Let's do it Here is a clip of my adorable two year old Bella attempting to say your name She hasn't fully got the hang of syllables yet but she's doing great with simple words keep being great. Lots of love. Shez from Dunstable.

8:04Bedford Shez. That's what my mum says about me. How are you? I'm good. I drove back from Germany yesterday. Oh, yeah? How was Germany? Well, it was good. Very hot. We went on a road trip, didn't we? I'm back in London slash Kent. You're away on holiday in your back zoo. So how was Germany? Germany was good. It was a heatwave. It was 36 degrees, Josh, in a theme park. Of course you're into a theme park. Fucking hell, you can find a theme park anywhere. If you drop the Beckett's on the moon, you'd find a fucking theme park. If you drop the Beckett's in the middle of the fucking, you know, Sahara Desert, where we're huge as a podcast.

8:48Yeah, right in the slap bang in the middle of Chad. Yeah. Then you would find a theme park. You can't escape a theme park, Rob. You're not even into theme parks. I would Google theme park in Chad. Why not? Why not? Why not a theme park in Chad? Probably be cooler than it was in Germany. No, there isn't actually. Yeah, that's why Lou's not got it on our list. No. There we go. No theme park in Chad, but they do have elephants. They do have elephants. Yeah. Go and slide down the trunk, mate. Does that count as a ride? It depends what you do with him. Do you know what? If I was in Germany and it was a heat wave.

9:24Yeah. And someone said, should we go to a theme park? Yeah. I might punch them. Yeah, I know, but you don't like the heat or theme parks, do you? Let me try and work out what's going on. Rob, Rob. Yeah. I'll let you into a little secret. Go on. Neither do you. No, I do. I don't like 36 degrees. Also, Josh, it was so... No, I mean... Yeah, go on. People sweating, right? I'll talk about what we did, but I've got to tell you this, right? I get people get BO, right? And when it's hot and you're at a theme park, you're sweating a lot, you get BO. I think I experienced the most intense BO I've ever experienced in my life.

10:00I walked past a man in the queue, right? And he went to the front of a runaway train to sit down with his family. He stunk a BO. And I was like, that's lively. I sat at the back of the train. As the roller coaster went down, I could smell him. Oh, my God. It travelled through the air, through the train to the back seat, where I could smell the man. Look, I don't think it travelled. It just stayed, didn't it? It stayed. It hung in the air. It was like Michael Jordan just hung there. Yeah. Jump man. Oh, my word. And I caught it on the back row. Oh, my word. But no, so we went to, we had a little family holiday.

10:33We left on Friday morning last week. We drove to Le Shuttle in Folkestone. Yeah. Got on a train that took half an hour to get to France, which is mental. So good, isn't it? Great. I love the Eurostar. I had a shit on the train and the other people we were with thought that was insane. Why do they think that? Well, it was horrible toilets. You're only on it half an hour. And I was on a train going underwater and I had a ship. I was desperate. I think that's fine. I think it's fine, isn't it? Josh Pugh did a very... Josh Pugh's so funny. Yeah. I think he's... I think Josh Pugh's one of the great chroniclers of modern British life.

11:11There you go. I'm going to say it. Okay. And how's this right to me? Oh, someone's walked into the room. What are you doing? Oh, hello. There's a child here. I'd say you're... Is that one of your children? Yeah. Very different energy to you. What do you mean? He burst straight in, door wide open, bowled in, picked something up. Well, he is five. Didn't even look at you and then walked out with the door open still. Five-year-old is very unlikely to go, excuse me, could I just, I know you're doing a podcast, but can I just grab your phone because I want to look at Lego on it. My pen pal in Senegal has been talking about it.

11:47Yeah. What did he grab? My phone, because he's obsessed with looking at different Lego sets on the Lego website. Oh, so go and get Dad's phone for the Lego, fair enough. Yeah. What did Josh Pugh do? Josh Pugh, he did a video of men on holiday, and it was just a guy trying to involve people in a talk about whether they'd had a shit yet on holiday. Well, it does. It impacts you differently at time zones as well. He's the great chronicle of modern life. It's observations on what people do are just up there with Alan Bennett and Rob Beckett. Wow. What a compliment to Alan Bennett and Josh Pugh.

12:35Anyway, so, but it coincided with my normal go time, which I'm pretty regular with, and it was on the train. I thought I've got half hours to kill while I'm not trying. I've got a long drive. I find people that have a normal go time absolutely wild. Really? Where are you going then? Just when the mood takes... Oh, I had another one of my... When the mood takes you? That's no way to live. No wonder you're stressed. You could have a shit at any moment. Well, no, I'm able to hold it. Every morning after I've had a coffee, sort of about eight-ish, I'm banging one out. Well, I don't drink coffee. Right, it's the decaf, so you're just...

13:06I had one, Rob. I had another one of mine. You're like a free-flowing midfielder. You're Steven Mannerman. You can deposit anywhere. Rob, enjoy it on this pod. There'll be no more football chat on this pod coming soon. it's going to be banned sorry go on so what was you saying about your toilet time I had another one of my jogging and then needed a shit situations the other day awful it's just terrible I'd rather have a regular pull on a train than just be running I don't have a problem with you going on a train I was surprised you didn't as far as the law of averages you haven't been on a rollercoaster to be honest.

13:47You spent so much time on that. I nearly did on the first one. I'll tell you about that, don't you?

13:54Anyway. Where were you? You were on the Eurostar. No, you were running and having a shit. I want to talk about this. Oh, no, I was just saying that as an aside. I was on a cliff top in Cornwall, running along the coastal path, and I thought, this timing's not ideal. I'm a good mile and a half, two miles from home. And what did you do? I just lost a lot of pace. Because you can't go at top, you can't spread your legs and and really go so but you didn't just find a bush no no i don't think i'd ever shit in a bush whatever the situation oh yeah you have to i think i'd no i think i'd rather just shit myself than shit in a bush because at least then you're the victim but if you go in a bush that's your own decision you can't shit yourself not with a pants you wear it's too much it's there's no there's no like you can in a pair of like tight boxes because at least it secures it yours is all over it's like yeah this is disgusting so anyway what are we talking about yeah on the euro star and then we um no we weren't the euro sorry it's something it's called something i don't know what it's called whatever it's the shuttle the tunnel the euro tunnel um then we drove to reams rems yeah they got a theme park that you could pop into it's the champagne region so we went on um a champagne tour did the kids enjoy that do you know what they actually did because that one, because basically all the different champagne houses have little places we can buy it and sit there and drink.

15:16So we went at Verve Clico, which is quite a pretty little garden, some drinks. Then we tried to walk to Tatinger, but it was 32 degrees. The kids weren't in the right footwear. They had a meltdown. At one point, also my daughter had put on like a jumpsuit thing, which was lovely and flowy. What footwear were they in? Stilettos? Crocs. Oh, right, Crocs. But no socks and Crocs, which is not ideal for walking. You needed like trainers. And she was in like this bodysuit, but it was lovely. but way too a bit too hot, she needed shorts and a t-shirt or a vest or something so in the end she was like I'm too hot we went past the shop and my mate went there's all shorts in there, we go in there this man didn't speak a word of English and we started picking up shorts and then we suddenly realised it's basically a triathlon shop selling like high end 100 euros shorts for people that are competing in cycling, swimming and running not really the ideal short wear for a 10 year old girl was too hot.

16:12But then I was sort of in there committing, she's like, these ones are like that one. And like, he's holding up like sizing and like, I'm not buying a pair of light recycling shorts. So we abandoned that. They get too hot. But we went to the Pomeroy and the Pomeroy is like, Louie, I think she's called Louise. Actually, she, it was started by two. Your wife? No, it weren't Louie. I think she's called Louise. This woman that keeps coming on holiday with me. She's always there making me go on rides. no but um she basically was a female trailblazer in champagne and yeah where they've got in this they still sounds like the same louise they built these this like cellar for the to keep the champagne which really it's really cool so the kids were sweating red art and like oh nice like sweating out we get down these steps where you go to this really cup up it's like the guide's got a coat on it's 35 degrees outside i'm like why is it when i'm dying to heat here we start walking down the stairs and then i just say to lou i was like they're gonna complain about being cold in a minute i've been crying because of the heat as soon as we get to the bottom one goes i'm cold but basically because it's a bit dark and scary this louise pomery she um bought loads of art and it's like an art gallery down there because you wanted to make it less scary for visitors and people work in there so it's all like art installations that are really cool and you also get a tour of how champagne's made and all that so it's actually quite interesting and it's quite a good one for kids because the other ones are more adults this one was good for kids so it's quite a good stop off on the way down so we did that um then we so that was about two and a half hours three hours stayed there the night then it was another three three and a half hours to germany and we stayed at a place called europa park so you know i did that i don't know if you that film where I played a parrot at the Grand Prix of Europe.

18:05Can I be honest? Go on. I don't know whether this is a prank. I don't know whether you're taking the piss. No, no. So I actually feel a bit offended because I'm across your art and your output, actually. And you're not really – I know you're doing Strictly, and you're telling me you don't know I played a parrot commentator of the Grand Prix of Europe film. I had an embarrassing moment with not people in Strictly, yesterday go on what happened so i was talking to a um a workman right so what was he doing strictly yesterday like working on strictly no and he was like um i tell you what you got workman in cornwall as well again we're having um there's the village has christmas lights up right okay yeah the whole village so i was like i want to be involved in that yeah a bit of fun in it i want to involved in that they came around to put the christmas lights up so to measure up to measure up you know just going so that your house is yeah because i want to be involved yeah yeah yeah of course you do you love the attention because he said oh we're putting them up on uh december the first saturday of december or whatever yeah and he said i said oh i can't do saturdays and because i'm working hang on can't do saturdays as if you're going to be there on the ladder like surely you go yeah he said oh do you want to come down and you know oh i've got you got you fair enough i stand corrected jumped all over you there didn't i no it's fine it's fine that's what this podcast is that's why we're that's why we're so big in algeria but um let's not forget bahrain i think we're really hammering the a of the emea let's not forget the eme bahrain's me isn't it yeah but you said algeria which is a oh yeah yeah yeah don't get me wrong I love Africa.

19:55I visited. Let's not forget ME. Let's not forget ME. Thank you. No. So I said, I'm working. I can't do Saturday. That Saturday. And then he asked again. And I was like, oh, no, I can't do Saturdays because I'm doing Strictly. And he went, oh, yeah, but you'll probably be out by then, won't you?

20:20Well, unless he knows you're the host and he's not very confident. Do you know what I've, I had a realisation the other day when I was, I was worried about something and it was quite small. I just realised every problem that I have, someone else has had that problem and solved it. Exactly. Every problem that's ever been has been solved by someone. So, so for example, so going from small things to big things, right? So we're not driving back through Europe. Or they haven't solved it or they've just had to deal with it. Yeah, most things aren't like, apart from most day-to-day problems, if something's happened, there's a way around.

20:57Medical ones, yeah. Well, no, you're going too deep in this. Oh, okay, sorry. What I'm saying is day-to-day things, oh, I've got this coming up, I've got that, or a big work event that you're worried about, you're out of your depth. Yeah. Everyone's felt that or gone through that at some point through history and there's been some sort of resolution where they've either solved it or it's passed and it's been fine. and i find that if i slow down i'll find that solution quicker than i will if my brain goes into overdrive so sometimes my brain goes right let me solve it solve it solve it when actually go no shut up a bit just go quiet just go empty yeah because the slower you are the easier it is to solve that problem yeah so for example drawing back from europe loads you know you get all the screen all the bugs on the screens yeah screen it's really annoying me it's couldn't really in and the windscreen markers weren't really doing it.

21:46Bloody autobahn. Yeah, and I was so in my head going, oh, I should have brought something to wipe that with and started actually beating myself up over it because I was not prepared or whatever. And then I got to the petrol stage and I was just like, no, just relax, stop breathing, got to the petrol stage and put the petrol in and I saw it as a bucket with a squeezy mop thing, like a window cleaning thing. I was like, of course that's there because every single person that's done this drive has had that problem and there's a solution there. God provides. God or Esso provide. Well no just other people that have solved it at some point recently and gone do you know what it would be quite handy to have that because most people have got dirty windscreen rather than me beat myself off in my own head for not being prepared enough not doing that what's that well then you beat yourself off in your own head well no beat myself up not beat myself Michael you heard it didn't you well apparently you said apology really weird and got through the cracks which I don't know did you hear that Michael when you edited he owes an apology he was doing a callback to an earlier mispronunciation it was quite a funny joke oh we missed it sorry so we lost the earlier joke no no they were both there I think there was just a bit of a gap in the room it wasn't I didn't pick up on your great joke I need to apologise for that story of my bloody life I know but don't beat yourself off over it

23:11This episode is brought to you by Tesco Mobile. Josh, how are you with the kids' slang? Oh, mate, I try. I'll be honest, I try, but they might as well be speaking a different language. I don't know what she ate means, and I do worry about it. And when you hear something like, oh, we cooked? Well, I presume, you know, was it on an induction hop? That's what I'm thinking. We can't be alone, though, Josh. Loads of parents out there feel like they can't understand half of the words their kids use. The thing is, that can also mean a lot of us don't always understand what's going on in our kids' online lives.

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25:32So they've done, like, the Slinky Dog in Orlando. They've done Hyperia at Fort Park. Anyway. You might as well be talking another language. Okay, cool. So anyway, we went there, and it was really good. So it's quite a fun trip to go down there, loads of good rides. Can I just fact-check something? Yeah, go on. You said you looked into it, you found out there was good rides. Yeah. Was it you that organised this? Yes. So what happened was when I did the film that you love and you've watched and you've played the Nintendo Switch game, and it's available on PS5 and Xbox, no biggie, whatever. So it's just a film star guy doing films and stuff.

26:15Did you get to voice the computer game? No. I actually didn't think about that. But, yeah, no, I didn't. Unless they took it. I've not played it. I don't do the voice in Germany, though. I did just do the English voice. So my Germans don't quite good enough. So they told me about this park. I looked into it and this is basically, I emailed and I emailed the guy who produced film and said, we're going to come down and stuff. And they, to be fair, I said, can I come down and how I couldn't understand the website? Cause it's mainly based at Germans and French. Cause there wasn't one English person there.

26:46I saw one English family in four days and it was really chilled. There was a mirror. we'll pass the mirror so it's just full and I thought the rides were going to be really good but the theme is really good as well so if you like that kind of thing you want to travel around I would massively recommend it it's got loads of good stuff for little kids and big roller coasters as well so we went there and we stayed there and I emailed them and they went and to be fair I was going to pay for it anyway but they said we can host you and give you some tickets if you do a social media post so I did there's a video of me on a roller coaster coming out but I did really enjoy it either way so I'm not I just want to be honest that they swept me out some tickets but the good thing is the longest you have to wait for a ride is about 40 minutes it's still a long time isn't it 40 minutes it's almost if if England were 1-0 up and you said we've got to hold on 40 minutes you'd go we're fucked that's what we did isn't it well once second time out but yeah but But, Josh, when you go, if you haven't got Fast Pass, if you go to somewhere like America, it's sometimes two and a half hours, two hours.

27:56I know. It blows my mind, Rob. Are you going to do theme parks for your kids? Are you just going to try and swerve it? I'm just not interested in it. I'm not trying to swerve it. They've just never asked. They're just not. If they really wanted to, how would you approach it, do you think? Would you just try and get it over and done with, or would you try and lean into enjoying it? No, I do. I mean, I do lots of things with my kids that I wouldn't do normally. Like what? I wouldn't go to horse riding normally, but I really enjoy that. Yeah, but you're not doing it. You're just watching her do it.

28:26No. Oh, I'd be happy to go on the rides. I always go on the rides when I go to theme parks. I thought you didn't like theme parks. I don't, but when I've been to theme parks, I'm not a ride dodger. And you've done the big one. I saw you do the big one with Alex Brooker, didn't you, when you did the Orton Tales thing? Yeah, I'd already done the big one, actually. I've done the big one twice, the big two. Stand corrected. Yeah. But, yeah, but I would – anyway, I massively recommend the Euro Park. It's really good. How far was your drive, and how did you keep the excitement going? To be fair, the kids – well, they don't normally have iPads in the car, so I bought a little – Lou bought it, actually, a little, like, metal plastic thing that connects to the headrest, and then you can open it and put the iPad in.

29:07So it's like a TV screen. Yeah, they just watched that nonstop, like, because they just – they were good as gold because they're a bit older. But on the drive back, we drove straight from Germany, He left at 7.30 in the morning, and it was six and a half hours to Calais. We did three piss stops. Then it was the tunnel, then another hour. Are you sharing the driving? No, I did all of it. Lou offered. But by the time I got to Folkestone, I was like, no, I want to do this. And I was so tired last night. It was a mess. Oh, my God, Rob. It was absolutely. So it was six and a half or seven hours with stops.

29:40And then we had to hang around waiting for the shuttle, then another hour. So eight hours of driving, about 10 hours in total from start to finish. Oh, my word. Fair play, Rob. And I slept for nine hours last night. Also, I always get – do you know what I'm saying? Of all these things you can do, like mindfulness, breathing, or, you know, all these things people try and do to calm down their anxiety or stress. Beat yourself off in your mind. Beat yourself off in your mind, going 80 down the autobahn. Oh, this is annoying. Right, so in France, it's like 80 miles an hour, 130 kilometers an hour is the speed limit yeah yeah so i'm doing that so germany do what you want on the motorways anyway i come off because there's a there's an accident so we have to go through these little villages these mad little german villages right driving along i'm doing 22 kilometers an hour which is yeah fucking 15 miles an hour yeah this weird metal pole flashes yeah it's a 20 I get flash no no I wasn't talking about a Polish man in a suit of armour

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30:52it's like weird metal pole flashes me I'm like what the fuck and I look it's a 20 mile an hour limit I'm doing 20 it's a 20 kilometre an hour limit I'm doing 22 I've just done 100 on the autobahn yeah of course I'm gonna get I've got a ticket I've got a ticket for going one miles oh mate and how does that work with a ticket in germany well i think you get sent here and no points but you get fined nil poir nil poir classic bit of nil poir from the from the europeans um but that annoyed me because i was like i've done all this driving yeah um oh german dodgems by the way we're one of these dodgems yeah so yeah if you're going on dodgems right with kids yeah watch and you're on your own car and you're eight-year-old seven-year-olds going around talk me through how are you dealing with that i don't enjoy enjoy dodgums no i don't enjoy dodgums i think they're unpleasant but it's the lack of control and i approach dodgums in a we all kind of go clockwise here or anti yeah you know i try to i'm constantly and then there's Always an absolute wanker that's like trying to get you.

32:07Yeah. So I was going to go on, sorry. Where you like fall into sync with someone and you just keep hitting them. And then it's like, you know what I mean? Like, you know, when you fall in sync with someone and you go to the toilet at the same time as I'm in the pub. I think Peter Kay's got a routine about that. Breaking the seal was a big topic of conversation in my drinking days. People would be proud that they haven't broken the seal. Just have a massive belly of piss. Yeah, I don't know what the advantage that was because you just sit there needing a piss. No, but I think if you went... I would like to know the science on this because I think that...

32:40I don't think it's a real thing. As soon as you go, you'll need to do more. Whereas if you hold it, you can just do one big piss. Yeah, but what I always found blew my mind is, right? So the theory is if you go, then you're going to need a piss again, yeah? Yeah. But if you don't go, you still need a piss. Yeah, but you don't want to keep getting up. You'd rather sit down needing a piss than constantly going to and from the toilet. I'd rather not need a piss. Yeah, but I think this was from when we used to drink in Wetherspoons and the toilets were always three miles away. Right, right, right, right.

33:10Maybe that was what it was. I don't know. Maybe my friends weren't good enough conversation. I'd quite happily have just gone to the toilets and had a piss. Michael, can you look up at the science of this? I think it was, yeah, I'd like to come back to that. I always thought, I don't think this is a real thing, this breaking the seal thing. also you know me rob i quite like a break from socializing so the piss was quite a joy a little bit of moment of to yourself yeah and that was in the days did you ever go in the weatherspoons where they'd have the the newspaper framed above the urinal in the exit of weatherspoons it would have a frame of today's newspaper of today's newspaper front page back page above the urinal so it's quite pleasant actually yeah so yeah at least two visits you'll get front and back yeah do you want the science i don't believe there's science michael hit me breaking the seal is a myth there is no physical valve or barrier in your body that opens when you first pee instead the urge to use the bathroom more often as the night goes on happens because alcohol stops your brain from making vasopressin hormone that tells your kidneys to save water oh so you just keep it keeps going so you're not breaking serious basically eventually your your brain will stop producing that and you just piss all the time there's something about drinking 10 pints that It makes you want to go to the toilet all the time, it turns out.

34:28It's mental, isn't it? I'll have a couple of beers now, but like the 10 pint, I went out at 15 pints one night. That's like insane. When I went to Paris with you, Rob and Tom, you had quite a boozy night first night. I was quite impressed. I was living vicariously through you. Well, yeah, and that is one of the problems with the Rob and Romesh shoots is it's all quite stressful and high-pressure stuff that you have to do at points with like learning a new skill, feeling quite vulnerable, wearing a stupid outfit and then a big event at the end that you're, you know, this can be quite humiliating.

35:04I definitely drink more on those shoots than I do in my normal life. A bit like, it's like the crazy gang. Yeah. Wimbledon in the nineties. Exactly. Anyway, we'll talk about dodgums because anyway, dodgums, I'm evasive. I'll try and swerve out the way of people because I don't want to bump into it and I don't, I'm heavy. I don't want to accidentally hit a kid so if a kid comes to me I'm almost playing cat and mouse and I'm running away there's this woman, 40 year old German woman just aiming at my children and all children not even the adults just like full pelt, full steam ahead I know, you always get that Is that just a German thing?

35:42I've never experienced that in the UK. No, you get it in the UK you get these absolute knobheads that think the point of the Dodgerums is to like hit into each other Give people whiplash. It is Do you know what I mean? Arguably, we're, I hate to say a couple of fucking pussies. Do you know what? I'm a big puss-puss. What can I say? Do you know what? I'm quite, I hate the Dodgerums. It hurts. It kind of, you get whacked around. It go, the feet, I'm just halfway through, I'm thinking, this happened. This, someone stop this now. This is unpleasant. What, the podcast? No, the Dodgerums. dodgerums all right okay i think you've gone into a tangent about this no this is an after end i am oh this is funny so the kids went to a bit of a summer camp thing and made friends these they both made friends with this kid or two separate kids and then they were like oh can i have a play date with them can i have a play date with them yeah no worries and then like in a bit of the a pickup i was like well show me them and then we're hunting through the crowd to find the kid and then the parent because obviously my kids don't know what the kids parents look like so you're trying to find the kid and go, oh, is that your mum or dad?

36:52Anyway, so the kids' friends that they made friends with have both got the same name. They're not sibling. Obviously not sibling. Obviously not siblings. But like they've both got the same. So I'm not going to say names because it's not fair, but like they've made a friend called Josh and another friend called Josh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No Josh. What I like is our out-of-the-box thinking is that we both needed a name. We both looked at the face in front of us.

37:20pathetic shit broadcasting shit broadcasting i've got these two kids they're both called shania yeah okay yeah so i've gone up and said oh um i think they've made friends let's do a play date at some point i was like yeah you know we swap numbers right so now i've got in my phone shania's mom shania's mom yeah of course so i don't know which kids coming if i organize a play-doh i don't know which kids friends are which uh have you tried these are the this is the first option the um the whatsapp picture yeah but it's obviously of the mum not the kid well some a lot of people have their whatsapp kit have their kids as their whatsapp picture don't they yeah but i think i've only got one number i think i gave a number oh so i i mean if you are listening and our kids got on at that camp, please text me to remind me so I can sort it out.

38:14Yeah, yeah.

38:18So today we're talking about our school days. Do you still remember those, Josh? Professionally, Rob. It's how I make most of my money, being nostalgic about those days. You're the king of nostalgia. Talk me through Josh Whittacombe School Gates shoes. I was a follower. I was not a leader, Rob. I was a follower. what's everyone else wearing let's get that let's take this variable out of circulation let's not make this a point of difference done i've fitted in yeah i want i want shoes that show my personality and my personality is stay under the radar exactly my personality is everyone else's person agreed personality thank you very much you the opposite rob are you the same i definitely wasn't a sort of leader in fashion in the school I would sort of go with what most of the other kids had so I certainly wasn't pushing the needle on shoe fashion yes yes do you remember what it's like when you've you've made a fashion change Rob yeah so you've got a new pair of shoes you've got a new coat even got a new haircut that feeling of going in oh my oh mama there's so many issues with the uniform if there's one thing on you that you like like the shoes it can help how were you how were you rob with uniform did you adapt your uniform i i definitely bought shoes with a rounded toe so i could play football in them at lunch because you don't want the sort of square boot because you can't you can't curl the ball yeah yeah you can't put any swazz on it it's just yeah just hoping for the best at that point so i definitely get a train a shoe that i I could wear for football, which my mum got the hump with.

39:57We weren't allowed our shirts untucked, but we'd have them as loosely tucked as we could. And then fully untucked on the walk home. Oh, the moment we got on the school bus, I'm untucking this baby. There was a lot of people trying to wear black trainers as shoes was a thing at my school. Yeah, you weren't getting away with that at South Dartmoor Community College in the mid-90s. I can tell you that. They would come down on you like a ton of bricks for that. One thing I know about shoes, Josh, yeah specifically school shoes if your kids likes the school shoes yeah it removes one argument in the morning that is priceless rob because otherwise it's a constant argument oh can i wear my trainers today or can i wear those ones or these what like exactly to get the kids on board with the shoes because if they're not you do not need an argument about shoes not fitting or being uncomfortable or annoying yeah they've got they've got to love them they want to be going i'm looking forward to putting these shoes on because it makes my feet sing rob best shoe you've ever put on your foot oh i know mine go on my wedding shoe because it helped me take steps to the greatest part of my life wow that is deep do you know what else is deep rob the selection of shoe the the range they have is incredibly deep oh so deep look rob life probably would have been different for us if we'd had shoe kids i think we can both agree with that it's the place for school shoes that lets kids express who they are, feeling they can stand tall in their shoes, which builds confidence for kids.

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42:41oh have you ever experienced this josh right i've got it's one was in france yeah at the buffet yeah scrambled eggs but buffet they're disgusting i i can't do scrambled eggs from a buffet i'll do i'll do fried ones if you sort of but i'll wait for a new slot to be put down on the on the platter can't do scrambled eggs at a buffet just it'll always look like they've come out of a packet and just been mixed with water or something yeah i'm a boiled egg guy you know where you are with a boiled egg because you don't know what oil they're doing the other shit in you don't know how long it's been out of a boiled egg it's protected by its own natural case i don't like eggs what took me through your egg you don't like eggs where you get your protein mate no wonder you're always on your fucking ass you don't eat eggs i don't like the way they move i don't like I really like the smell of eggs.

43:36Yeah, I mean, the smell I'll give you, but then the way they move, each egg moves differently. You're telling me a boiled egg is moving the same way as the post. Yeah, but I don't like the springiness of an egg. I don't like the springiness. It's not the smell, is it? It's the texture. It's the texture. But then the smell is rancid. I often think I wish I liked eggs. So you don't eat an egg at a buffet? You won't have an egg at a buffet? No, but if I did, it would be boiled. I'd probably go running in the middle. Five minute egg. Six minute egg. summer holidays, busy, this hotel's busy, yeah? There is a system where you've got to boil your own egg five slots.

44:14Five slots in a what? Boil, so in this weird sort of like metal, like deep, like frying thing like it looks like, filled with water and then five little spoon handles that you put an egg in, you put it in and it says like five minute per oof. And you're still smarting from the person that stole your toast. Yeah, I know, but also it's families there, people are banging out five so it's like a queue to boil your own eggs surely just 40 minute queue at the fucking breakfast before the 40 minute queue at the right it's quicker to get on their eye i've got a blue fire quicker than this i've got one guys i've got i've got an egg fast pass if they i get why they want the not to pre-boil the eggs i get that no but just do a load of them do 20 eggs and put them on the side and say these are hard boiled and then do another 20.

45:01Like, it takes so long to do five individual eggs. Or do eggs on request. No, they weren't that kind of hotel. Oh, okay. But I'm willing to accept a big bowl of 20, like a 20 boiled eggs under a heat lamp. Yeah, I'll tell you what. You're not going for your holiday shit on a train if you've had 20 boiled eggs, Rob. Do you know what? I eat a lot of eggs and it don't hold me back. That's good. I've got quite powerful bowels, I think. Yeah. You've got fast responder bows. First responder. First responder. Do you want to hear the best? Me and Lou had a good row in the car. Do you want to hear about this?

45:40Yes, please. How many hours in? So this is second day. This is driving from France to Germany, three and a half hours to drive. Yeah, not too bad. Lou has got hair extensions that she wants to take out. Now, your options are... In the car. So, right. I went to the shop. So we're in France. I go to the Carrefour, okay, to get some snacks and some bread rolls for the kids to take down so you can eat in the car, right? Yeah. Look at this. I'm going to read you. So I say to message me what you want from the shops. This is what I get. Two packs of makeup remover wipes. Fair enough. That was for her and her friend.

46:23A Coke Zero. Baguette, cheese butter, ham. Sweets for me, please. crisps water maybe some chocolate for the kids yeah five then fine listen to this random but i'm basically ripping out my own hair extension as i run out of time to get them taken out properly so i might try and soften the bonds if by any chance they have a little pit of coconut oil somewhere and flat pliers to squash the bonds can you grab that too coconut oil the most important thank you flat pliers have you ever tried to find flat pies and coconut oil in the cariff or rems i haven't no if i had it would be weird you did yeah but like lou lou is like it's anyway so lou sat there basically putting coconut oil on a bonds whatever that is to soften it and then use the pliers so basically you can get your own air extension that which i think is an insane thing to be doing so we're driving along we need a wee and in france there's these little things you pull in and it's just you're just a picnic bench and there's like metal toilets that you can use rather and going in the main services.

47:23So we're hungry, we need a wee, we're going to have a wee. And I go, Lou, do you mind making some sandwiches? We've got French dick, butter, ham and cheese. French what? French dick. Baguette. So she goes, oh, I'll get out and make them. I'm like, can you just make them in the car? Because like we want to get going, right? There'll be loads of crumbs. There won't be that many crumbs. Let's just make them in the car. We didn't have a knife. I forgot a knife because I was too busy. She used pliers. No, but we did have those wooden sticks my daughter put in from, you know, stirring coffee from the room.

47:55Yeah. All right. To potentially use the butter. Anyway, in a, now Lou's going to have issues with this and I expect a voice note coming in. Lou decides to make the baguettes on her lap using her finger for the butter. Okay. Even though we've got these wooden things. She makes, she makes. I'm going to come to Lou's defense here. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Go on. Those thin wooden things are not going to be good for spreading. It's not going to give you a good spread. And a finger is more practical. Nature's butternut. Nature's finger. I did say, though, can you nick a spoon from the hotel? She didn't nick a spoon from the hotel or a knife.

48:31Okay, well, I don't think that's all. So that's good on it because she's not a thief. So she's making these baguettes. No, she makes us some baguettes. It's actually tasted of hate. I could feel the tension within the sandwich from the finger to the – So anyway, and then after she's made the sandwiches, we've all got a big deal. She, I'd say, spends close to a minute performatively brushing crumbs off her lap. Right. Okay. As if in an indicator. So not just a quick, like, brush them on the floor. She's sort of turning around, stood up a little bit to the side, and like, like, like, like, like, like, proper, like.

49:08Yeah. For a minute. And I'm just ignoring it like that. Anyway. And she's, and I'm like, fair enough. How's she got the butter off her finger? Mouth. Mouth. Most of it on the bread, then a quick... So, you know, I'll beat myself off in my head. Do you know what I'm saying?

49:30She's doing the Leslie Grantham style. She's a Leslie Grantham butterer. Yeah, okay. So she's got the right up with me. She's brushing it like that and going, oh my God, she's so messy, so messy and crummy like that. and then i'm like all right and so she's moaning about the mess then she goes back to removing her hair extensions which i'd argue is probably as messy if not messier when i'm trying to eat my sandwich i can't bits of hair i can't rule on that because i can't picture what removing hair extensions with pliers and coconut oil look so what it is is sort of getting hair tied up they're getting some coconut oil on the little things that connect the hair like that and as it softens it using the pliers to pull it out like that and then what you get is sort of a clump of hair that's sort of tied together right right okay yeah and then obviously though as you're putting out there are a few strays so as i'm driving stray hairs would land on my face because she's removing hair so i i'm arguing that there's a lot of mess going on that is also crumb based and hair based and also driving is quite important to not be distracted by arguably hair that you know I can already feel the voice note coming in.

50:43I'm really, I'll be surprised, Lou, I'll be surprised if you've got to this point without sending an initial voice note. Do you know what I mean? I imagine there's been a pause already. Yeah, 100%. So she's already made a voice note. So then, but then what's happening is as she's removing it, there's like a clump of hair just like on her lap. And then obviously, because it's not contained anywhere, stuff's floating about. I'm like, can you not just put it in that empty coffee cup? because he's got to be thrown away. And then I'll just fry it out the window. Birds can use it as a nest. Do you know what I mean?

51:13I don't know about that. Is it just that? What is a hair extension? I don't know. It's someone else's hair. So this is someone else's hair. Yeah, it's real hair from someone else that's been put in your head. Oh. Right? Yeah. So in the end, I went, and then I was like, Lou, your hair is getting over. We need to get rid of this hair out of the car because it is just going to, bits of it's going to be moving about. and then Lou tried to throw out the window and then threw a hair she tried one, threw one hair extension out and then it blew back in and landed on our daughter of course

51:52so the argument was basically how can you possibly complain about a few crumbs when you're removing all your hair in the car so it's quite a bit of a tennis drive that's the case for the prosecution, I look forward to the case for the defence yeah i will hear what they hear what i want to say but yeah anyway that we had a good old quite juicy row over row that we filled some time yeah exactly um it's been a joy rob yeah sorry if it's been a bit clunky listeners but we are trying our best over some holidays but we'll get back into a bit let's be honest let's be honest they'll probably love that bell stuff if it carried on longer it would have been annoying but it was a little bit of bit of fun if the children playing in the corridor with the bell and the whistle carried on it would have been unbroadcastable yeah but they've got it feels like everyone's left you you're like home alone it does feel weird i've just realized rob that i can't do oh i can do small business off here i was gonna say small business otherwise because my son's looking at lego no i've got it on here it's fine so why wouldn't he oh because you're not on your phone yeah small business dear rob josh and michael long time listener here loyal gym companion for years now having started listening on recommendation of my brother years ago if i'm ever laughing to myself mid bench press it's almost certainly because of the podcast not ideal for form but worth it i'd love to throw my hat in for a small business shout out my business pink auberstein branded bakes recently relocated to lime regis lime regis is lovely with a bakery to get out of though tiny little roads in it oh yeah well you know it's worth it with a bakery just over the devon border we create thousands of cupcakes cookies and sweet treats topped with edible logos perfect for corporate gifting events and generally showing off you can find us here pinkovergene.co.uk now i'd love to offer listeners of Parenting Hell and Offer.

53:51Use the code ParentingHell10 or website or email it to us and we'll send you a little extra gift with every order. Thanks so much for the laughs. Keep more coming. Thanks so much, Claire. Pink aubergine branded bakes. Okay. Hi, Rob and Josh. I'd like to give a small business shout out to my friend Jade and her husband Brian. They've just started a beautiful dog accessory brand called Cedar and Snout. The business is based in Northumberland near Newcastle, but ship all over the country with a view to expanding internationally. They have some stunning harnesses, leads, collars, and bottles that can be used for humans and dogs to share.

54:34Harnesses? To share? What? Are you still there, Josh? Yeah. I was just trying to get my head around it. They have some stunning harnesses, leads, collars, and bottles that can be used for humans and dogs to share. Yeah, well, I think the lead is shared between the human and the dog, isn't it? Not in a kind of sex game way. Or maybe the bottle. I'm going to take the dog out in the harness and then I'm going to go and do a zip wire and I'll use the same harness for myself on the zip wire. The website is cedarsnout.co.uk. Instagram, cedar underscore snout. TikTok, cedar and snout. They're working so hard to get the business off the ground and it's gaining momentum.

55:15but a shout out on parenting that would be amazing push for them plus following their socials we'll get you some super cute doggo content so i from looking at it actually i think the three-in-one adventure bottle is there's a bottle that you can drink out of the top but the underneath unscrews so that then you can pour water into the thing for the dog to lick out of oh that's good you're sharing the bottle but the dog's licking out the bottom and you're drinking at the top. Yeah. So the dog licks out the bottom and you drink. You've got the harness on. Your wife's pulling you around the lead. You get licked out down the bottom.

55:53Seed into an out. Good luck. Right. See you later. It's been a journey and I do apologize. How long is your drive back? Two hours. How long is it now, is it? No. You're down south west? Got a bit fluffball up from the vet, but that's another story. Still the same problem. Can't get to the bottom of it. Bad legs? Bad legs. Oh, okay. Quite depressing cliffhanger. Tune in next week. They're all caught out in Fluffball. That's mental, isn't it? Poor old Fluffball. I'm sure Fluffball will be fine. Are you? No. I'm trying. Fluffball will be absolutely fine. Yeah. Cool. Bye. Bye.

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Rob has driven all the way back from Germany with the family after a trip to Europa Park. Josh tries to record the podcast while kids in the house play with whistles and bells.

**Please excuse the section in the middle with poor video quality on Rob's feed - there were some extreme tech issues with the episode**

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