A Conversation With MAGA

28:27And so you're going to get this response from people. This is, like I said, we're going through the next 60 days are going to be an all out blitz. And strangely, now Donald Trump has found himself in a war of sorts with the Israel lobby. And so it's kind of, again, this is why it's kind of important to talk to MAGA again now. So, you know, we're not going to pretend what you guys did back there didn't happen back there. we all you know you you launched a war of choice on behalf of a foreign country and you supported that um and and and look like why should we be kind to MAGA right now it was loudly broadcasted right into our face that MAGA is not Tucker Carlson because he's a low IQ trader MAGA is Mark Levin.

29:24Okay. Well, that's, that's what you got to live with now. And what happened? Jeez, what happened when we followed Mark Levin and Douglas Murray and Ben Shapiro's advice? What happened? Oh yeah. Another catastrophe. So bad that we had to just concede. We had to just wave the white flag and pay them hundreds of billions of dollars to get them to stop. Again, we're not going to forget that. But as we move forward here, it is important here to understand that this is the battle now. The battle is going to be over people attacking Donald Trump for making this move. Look, as bad as it is that Donald Trump failed in the way that he failed.

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31:30NASAchips.com slash Dave promo code Dave for 25 % off your first order. All right, let's get back into the show. You know, like if you're, if you're in a hostage situation, I know people make fun of me for making these analogies and God damn it. I know they're not perfect, but they are useful. And so, you know, some of you guys, you make fun of me for them, but they are useful. There's a reason I do this, but like in the sense, okay, if you were in a hostage situation and somebody has all, you know, and you're the negotiator, you're, you're outside on the cell phone talking to him and you're like, please at least give us the women and children.

32:02You know, this guy's got a bank, a lot of people there, even if he's already killed a few people, even if he's already done terrible things. And this guy is going to get the chair, you know, whenever you get him out and he gets, goes to trial or whatever. You still might be talking to him and you're like, Hey, can you, can you let the rest of the kids out. He goes, okay, I'll let some of the kids out. You still go, thank you so much for that, dude. Like that was really huge because those are real kids and their lives are on the line right now. Okay. I'm not saying it's a, I'm not equating the two things.

32:33I'm just saying the reason I use the analogy is that as much as Donald Trump is fucked up, as furious as many of us may be with him, we still got a country here. You know, we still have a kid together and the kid is the United States of America. This is the country that both of my little kids are going to grow up in. I care very much about the future of this. And it's very important that Donald Trump wins this fight. It's very important that we get this memorandum of understanding signed and we get out of this war. This is I I am not sure how much damage has already been done. I'm very concerned about that.

33:06But we were flirting with catastrophe. And there's for no reason for no reason other than Donald Trump's choosing for listening to the Israel lobby instead of people with common sense. Okay, let's move to the Bacha clip, which I do apologize if I'm saying her name wrong, which I often do. But Bacha Ungar Sargon is her name. She is, I know her. We debated, she was a part of that debate with me and Jane Cugar and Dennis Prager and her. and we all went out to dinner afterwards. She's a really very nice person, very lovely, although I could not disagree with her politics more. But yeah, anyway, so she kind of, in the spirit of checking in with MAGA, she kind of represents like kind of the lefty pro-Zionist part of MAGA, like kind of a liberal, not lefty, I shouldn't say, liberal, a liberal Zionist member of MAGA.

34:14And again, somebody who's been cheerleading President Trump for his entire second term. Here were her thoughts on the war and or excuse me, on the memorandum. This is actually exactly the same as the JCPOA, if not worse, because we're so close to victory. I mean, there has never been a nation as strong as the United States is right now. We are the world's greatest and only superpower, the strongest nation to ever exist. And we have been brought to our knees by a few minds. And as an American, I cannot stand that. I cannot stand saying that sentence, but it is utterly true. And what's worse is, exactly as Ben pointed out, they will never be weaker than they are now.

35:01They're about to get all their money back. And so in 60 days, they're going to be even less likely to give us anything that we're asking for. I just want to say one more thing. Nobody wanted this to end more than I did. I cannot stand how broke Americans are right now. I've been using my show on News Nation every week to call for help for working class Americans because they voted for Trump because he promised to put money in their pockets. And they are broke right now because of this war. I cannot stand that. But there are a million ways the president could have helped them domestically that didn't involve the greatest superpower in the history of humanity being brought to its knees by a few minds.

35:43He could have given stimulus checks. That's what I suggested. He could have put controls on oil exports. We are a net exporter of oil and gas. We're exporting oil and gas while Americans are paying 450 at the pump. It makes no sense. all right so i mean getting away from her um lefty economic prescriptions um which i think are kind of ridiculous and i don't think people voted for donald trump because he would put money in their pocket exactly um i do think one of the reasons people voted for donald trump was because he explicitly promised to not fight stupid unwinnable wars um but even she cannot spin what's happening here that we've lost.

36:27Now, one of the things that, again, this is, I don't know, I guess it's just like for some people just for whatever reason, and I guess perhaps with a lot of them, it's willful. They just have this blind spot for the reality that there are limits to US power. And even as Bacha says, you know, it's like, we're the biggest, strongest guy or we're the biggest, strongest country ever. And we're brought down by a few minds like strategically placed in the Strait of Hormuz. Yes. I mean, there's a little bit more to it than that. There's some missiles and some drones and stuff, but yeah, that's essentially right.

37:11And, you know, there actually is no contradiction between those two different things like we're the strongest country ever, but we're also brought down by something like, you know, quick history lesson, the founding of our country, we're celebrating 250 years. If you haven't heard, it's coming up. The founding of our country was us taking down the strongest, most powerful military that had ever existed, which was the British army at the time. And the British empire was by far the strongest nation on earth. And we were able to beat them with muskets, Not minds, I suppose. But yes, there is a difference between being strong, having power, and having limitless godlike powers.

38:01There's a difference between those things. And the fact that, I mean, I don't, again, this is like very basic, like maybe the most fundamental 101 lesson of like military history is that there's, yes, even a much more powerful military when overextended can be defeated by less powerful forces. Yes, there are asymmetrical wars and sometimes there are asymmetrical victories in war. And so, again, it's not a question of who has a stronger military, us or Iran. Nobody is debating that. Obviously, we have a stronger one. It's not who can blow more of their shit up versus who can blow more of our shit up.

38:47Obviously, we can blow a lot more of their shit up. But then there are these very tangible, logistical questions that were obvious from the very beginning of this thing. Just incredibly obvious. questions like, how do you do regime change without a ground force? When has that ever happened? It's incredibly difficult. In fact, I've heard several military experts say that it's never happened. And I would love to question that. I don't know. I'd have to go research on that. Has there ever been a purely from the air regime change accomplished? I mean, I know in Libya and Syria, we had some forces on the ground.

39:25And sure, we used Al Qaeda when convenient. But But anyway, without now, of course, there's other questions about if you don't have a military occupation, how do you replace the regime after you change it? That's a pretty big one. And there's also major questions about, you know, right. Like, so if you have an IRGC with a couple hundred thousand members, how do you take that out from the skies? OK, that's a pretty tough question. That was pretty obvious. OK, what about escalation dominance? What do we do if they touch all of our bases in the region? They've got a large stockpile of missiles. They can do that.

40:00What about the strait? All they have to do is be able to plant a few mines, target a few boats before regular people who aren't members of the military don't want to risk their lives to go through the strait where they're being shot at. You have insurance companies that have ships with$50 billion worth of cargo on them who don't feel like insuring that when they might take a$50 billion loss if an Iranian drone hits that ship. Okay, that's a tangible problem. And it doesn't matter how, well, we spend a trillion dollars a year on our military. Okay, but how do you solve that problem? But none of them want to admit what is the obvious case here, which is that we got beat.

40:47You know, but all of them, and it's important for MAGA to understand this and understand what just happened here. All of these guys are essentially saying something that really doesn't pass the smell test that you should be able to look at and go, okay, there's a pretty big problem with what you're telling me here. You know, it reminds me of, if you guys remember, back during COVID, me and Rob used to make this joke. You know, it's sometimes you have all these arguments, but then you could just go to this like basic kind of logical like smell test. So when they were pushing the covid vaccines, they were essentially saying that covid is so deadly.

41:26This this thing is so awful that we had to lock down the whole country because they were still supporting lockdowns. You know, we had to lock down the country because we had to slow the spread or whatever, fight the flatten the curve, whatever their dumb argument at the time was. And so it's such a horrible illness. The germ is so dangerous that we had to shut down the entire world. But now we have this cure. We have this vaccine. It is safe and effective. And if you get it, you 100 % will not get COVID. You can't transmit COVID. The whole plague. Essentially, we have a plague. And now we have a cure for the plague with no side effects.

42:05and yet we have this major problem of vaccine hesitancy. And you would just like already, if you just look at that, you go, so you're telling me we're living through the plague and we came up with the cure and people don't want it. That's a really tough sell, right? Now, all of us looking back at that, we kind of laugh because obviously this indicates that they were lying through their fucking teeth about the whole thing. And we had lots of reasons to know that at the time and lots more reasons to know that now. But, you know, just think about the idea of even trying to sell that. So what these guys are trying to sell is that it was a great idea to launch the war, that we did destroy so much of their stuff.

42:48And the only problem here is that then at the end, Donald Trump gave them everything. It's as ridiculous as the narrative around the vaccine. It's as ridiculous. What are the odds of that? Donald Trump went into this war. He had it. He had won. We were about to get everything we wanted. And then at the last minute, he said, no, no, no, you take everything. He pulled his gun on the other guy. They put their hands up. You win. And then you gave them your wallet. That doesn't sound right. Now, does it? Oh, yeah, because that's not what happened. That's not what happened. What happened here is that this is the only way we could get them to sign on to the agreement, which Donald Trump was desperate to get them to sign on to for obvious reasons.

43:43You know, it's like we listened. We listened one more time to the Israelis and their lobby and the idiot war hawks. And just like they were wrong about everything else, they were wrong about this one, too. And, you know, I don't know, looking, looking back at it, it's like, as somebody who was very critical of the 12 day war and very critical of Donald Trump, well, the Epstein files, the 12 day war, and now this war in Iran again, and a lot of stuff in between. it's like the the amount of shit that we took from MAGA like again who cares at this point we got a country to save but if we are having this conversation it is worth pointing out that MAGA right now like if you're not the Israel lobby but you just like support Donald Trump just think about where these guys led you verse guys like Tucker Carlson who were trying to warn you about exactly this, exactly where we are now.

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46:37Superpower.com promo code problem for an additional$20 off. All right, let's get back into the show. Okay, well, one of the things actually that got me thinking about this conversation was that JD Vance went on Megyn Kelly's show the other day. And there are people who are actually very upset about this. There are people in MAGA who, because MAGA is Mark Levin now, right? And Mark Levin and Donald Trump himself has trashed Megyn Kelly. And she's Grandma Groiper, according to Mark Levin and Laura Loomer. Like, according to all the cartoon characters who are clearly here to serve as foreign spies, they all decided she's terrible.

47:32So now Megyn Kelly has really become, in my opinion here, a very interesting phenomenon because Megyn Kelly is so – first of all, she's an institution amongst, like, American conservatism at this point. She had the number one show on Fox News many, many years ago, and she's still here with one of the biggest shows today. She is one of the one of the reasons why Megyn Kelly is almost even more revealing of how crazy things got is that Megyn is not. Megyn doesn't even have the politics of Tucker Carlson, let alone Candace Owens, let alone Nick Fuentes or something like that. Megyn Kelly is really Megyn Kelly.

48:18She's kind of been Megyn Kelly this whole time. she's only guilty like essentially her only crime from going from being like the conservative darling the person that all of the people trashing her right now would have had like just the utmost respect for and would have spoken about in like the um the highest you know praise the only thing she's guilty about is not losing her mind with all of them through this collective freak out. Like she essentially just kind of went like, well, you know, Tucker has a right to make the arguments he's making too. If I remember the comment that she made about me in the Charlie Kirk episode, the famous episode where Charlie Kirk was on her show and they were both, it's her and Charlie Kirk, right?

49:03These are moderate Republicans, Megyn Kelly and Charlie Kirk. So the episode they were on together where Charlie Kirk was complaining about how like, my God, you could be the most pro Israel guy ever. And I criticize one thing and all of them are like trying to, they're calling me a Nazi and all this stuff. So this now famous episode, which was actually pretty famous before he died, but became much more so after. At one point she said about me, she goes, I mean, you were there to host a debate between Dave Smith and Josh Hammer. And then she goes, and Dave has a right to be a critic of Israel.

49:34That was all she said about me. But essentially that is her position. And that was enough for them to say, oh, you're a Nazi. For her to go, we could host a debate, right? If she just points out that like, eh, you know, Donald Trump is selling you at the beginning of this war, like, oh, this war is going to go so great. And you know what Megyn Kelly said? Think about like how, by definition, how moderate of a statement this is. This is what Megyn Kelly said when the war first broke out. She goes, you know, I worked at Fox News for a while and I've seen a lot of people pushing wars and celebrating and telling you how great it's going to work out.

50:13And it never ends up being that, you know, I've seen this movie play like seven different times and it just never ends up. It always ends. So I'm going to be cautious on this one. Like literally that was her take. And for that, you're a Nazi, you're a Nazi for thinking maybe we shouldn't launch a war of choice. But anyway, one of the reasons why I think Megan Kelly is kind of interesting here is because so Megan Kelly has been totally reasonable this whole time. She's still Megyn Kelly. And in some ways you're almost going like, hey, so what comes out of all of this? Jeez, man, now Donald Trump has infuriated all of the non-interventionists, infuriated all of the skeptics of the Israel lobby.

50:55Now he launches this terrible war. It ends up being the disaster that all the people he infuriated said it was going to be. Now he's trying to pull out. So he's infuriating the Israel lobby. And so in the midst of all of this, J.D. Vance goes on Megyn Kelly's show. And I thought this was just kind of interesting. Like, okay, here's the vice president. Now I got to say a couple thoughts on this. Number one, the people who were like upset, there are the people out there like, oh, like, oh, what is J.D. Vance doing going on this Nazis show or something? It is unbelievable. It's much like with the actual memorandum of understanding.

51:29And this is why I made this point at the beginning of the show. It's like, do you guys not realize what a position of weakness you're coming to this negotiation with? You know, Bacha and the Fox News lady and Brian Kilmeade, they can spin this however they want to. Who do you think you are? Oh, what's he going on Megan Kelly's show for? Excuse me. We ran this experiment. Megan Kelly was right. You were wrong. Sorry. If we're going to move forward here and we're going to try our best to at least get some wins out of this administration. And by the way, not the global depression that is threatened if this war isn't resolved.

52:07If we're going to move forward, let's just get a few things clear. This war was a stupid idea. You didn't listen to us and you launched it anyway. And you know what you did? You lost. You fucking lost. You humiliated the country. It was devastating. There's 13 American soldiers are dead because of the stupid war with nothing to show for it. So like, yeah, Megyn Kelly was right. You guys were wrong. You should be lucky to get back on our team. The other thing that's going on here, man, and I really got to say, this is maybe as blatant as when Joe Biden put Kamala Harris in charge of the border and you were like, oh, you must really hate Kamala Harris.

52:52because my God, imagine just assigning her your biggest problem. Okay, in the same way, this is what they're doing at J.D. Vance right now. They are sicking J.D. Vance with the responsibility of selling this capitulation. His job now is to go out there and explain why this war was a really good idea and this deal is a really good idea. No, I know what you're saying. You know, a lot of people are saying that this is essentially unconditional surrender. But really, if you look at it from the right angle, it's us winning. This is his job. And, you know, in typical fashion, because Megyn Kelly, and I don't mean this as, like, I mean, this is a compliment, actually.

53:41But because she is a moderate, very much by nature, she was kind and reasonable to J.D. Vance. She could have been a lot harsher on him. but just so we're clear Miriam Adelson's favorite member of this administration Marco Rubio he's not being sent around to be the one who's claiming this is a huge victory now is he no J.D. Vance is the one who's supposed to take the fall for this and you'll see that it's already happening the Hawks are blaming J.D. Vance for all this stuff anyway let's play here is a J.D. Vance on the Megyn Kelly show talking about everything that's going on. Let's talk about what happened to the GOP base as a result of all this, because it's divided.

54:26I know you've experienced it yourself. I've experienced it too. It's been sort of a sad, tumultuous, stressful time. It's much more fun, I think, for most of us who lean right or right-leaning independents to be fighting with the left, but it's been kind of civil worry over on the conservative teams since this whole thing got launched. And the non-interventionalist right feels very betrayed, very betrayed by it. Whether you agree with that they've been betrayed or not, Mr. Vice President, what do you say to those people? Well, what I'd say to them is, one, I think you can walk through all the ways in which this has led to a good place for the United States of America.

55:03And I'd ask them not to sort of view this purely through the filter. I know a lot of these folks are frustrated with the role that Israel has in all this. We can talk about that but don't look at it from the lens of you know what what is it that different people think about it what do you think about it what like fundamentally do you think i've talked a lot but let's pause it let's pause it for a second okay listen i don't like the role israel's played in it let's imagine israel played no role in it there was no such thing as israel let's say Donald Trump just did this. You launched a war of aggression, a war of choice against a nation in the middle of negotiations, in the most disgusting, dishonorable Pearl Harbor style sneak attack, like a fucking coward, like a criminal.

55:54You launched a war against a country who had not attacked America over a civilian nuclear program, which was being monitored until you launched the last war. And what did it accomplish? You got 13 of our boys killed. You got hundreds of our boys and girls injured. You killed hundreds of little girls at a school, thousands of innocent people, hundreds of billions of dollars of damage, hundreds of billions of dollars of damage to the global economy, all to fucking lose and bribe them to stop. What is this? This is what JD Vance has to come with us. This is you want to send your vice president out.

56:36Now you're not going to send him on Tucker Carlson because it's been a little bit too heated there. Obviously he can't do Candace Owens or any of these other shows, but the one avenue you have, okay, he'll go to Megan Kelly and he's going to talk directly to fucking me. I mean, I don't mean to be narcissistic and make this about me. I just mean that she mentioned, the non-interventionist right. I mean, us, talk about us. What is the implication here that we wouldn't care if only Israel? Our beef isn't that Israel got us to do a thing, okay? If Israel got a doctor to cure cancer, I wouldn't be upset with them.

57:10Our beef is that Israel got us to do a horrific evil thing that's not in our national interest. Let's keep playing.

57:19the best argument that the nuclear program is destroyed the iranian conventional military is destroyed we had yes a temporary rise in energy prices that's already coming down substantially and we didn't get as i said repeatedly we were never going to get the quagmire that a lot of people were worrying about because donald trump is just not george w bush so i would say first the first argument i'd make yes all right let's pause that we are right now let's pause it and i Yes, we didn't get the quagmire because Donald Trump offered him hundreds of billions of dollars to stop. That's how we didn't get the quagmire.

57:55But their nuclear program is obliterated. But the nuclear weapon that they never had still doesn't exist. Listen, man, I think the war in Iraq was a huge success because their nuclear program was obliterated. Their weapon, their WMDs are no longer there. What a success. this is i mean this is just a joke anyway keep going you can make the best argument that where we are right now is a good place for the united states of america and again if we transform the middle east what else this was fundamentally worth it okay the second argument i'd make this is maybe uh is is this even if you disagree with this particular action it's completely ridiculous to pick up your marbles and go home that's not how politics works and i've been very much on the inside of a lot of these debates and conversations.

58:45You know, some people have criticized our immigration policy. Some people have criticized tax policy or some people have criticized foreign policy. The way that politics works is that you have to stay engaged in the process. You absolutely have to make your voice heard. But right now, right now, we have a very good deal for the American people. And importantly, we have a constituency right now that is saying that we're going to send boots on the ground. They want Donald Trump to send hundreds of thousands of ground troops into Iran. The best thing we need people. But we need people to be pushing back from inside the tent.

59:20Okay, but wait, some of us push back, and then we're told. All right, let's pause it. Let's pause it, because Megyn Kelly's about to get to a very good point here about some of us have pushed back. But there's an interesting offer in a way that J.D. Vance is making here, And I'm going to end this episode with a counter offer. This is kind of what I wanted to have this conversation with MAGA about. And this is why I wanted to close out with this at the end of the show. So maybe I'll hold off on my counter offer. But just to be clear about what J.D. Bounds is saying, he goes, look, some look, you can't just take your balls and go home over one thing.

59:59You know? Yeah. OK. I mean, the one thing was launching a war of aggression on behalf of a foreign country that turned out to be an absolute disaster. So it's a pretty big thing. It's a pretty big thing to some of us. And I know that this is for the political operators like J.D. Vance. I think this is something that's hard for some of them to wrap their head around, that some of us actually believe in things. And so, yeah, like when we say we don't want to launch a war of aggression on behalf of a foreign country that is a disaster, that's something like we are really against. We really mean that.

1:00:36It's kind of a deal breaker for us. But he's going to say, hey, look, you don't pick up your balls and go home over one thing not going your way. You got to push back from inside the tent, meaning I got to still support Donald Trump in order to push back. And the problem with that, of course, is that many of us did support Donald Trump. I gave it my best effort. I had President Donald Trump's son quote tweeting me saying he's on it 100 % that we're going to keep all the neocons out of this administration. We tried our best to push back from inside the tent. We were explicitly told by the guy up top that we're not in the tent anymore and that the movement is Mark Levin.

1:01:17So probably not exactly what we're going to do. Um, now Megyn Kelly is going to make the, I'll save my counter offer, uh, for the end, but here's, Megyn Kelly is going to bring up what happens when you do push back. And then we're told, and I quote, those who speak ill of Mark Levin are not MAGA. Well, the president, as he does, is pushing back at a criticism of yours that he thought was unfair. Not just me. I mean, a lot of non-interventional, but I talked to him last night and I said, Mr. President, I'm going to go on Megyn Kelly's show and I'm going to defend the administration's policies. Absolutely.

1:01:52I love that. Because again, good. He engages and he's going to criticize you when he agrees or disagrees. I don't mind. He's going to say nice things about you when he agrees with you. But that's what I actually love about the president is he's not. He's all right. So let's just pause it there. All right. And we can we can turn this off here because I really this is kind of what I wanted to get into. So here's J.D. Vance going on Megyn Kelly. He's coming into this world, the podcast world. And, you know, look, what is the dominant media right now? There's people have gone over this a bunch of times, but, you know, it's like something like six out of the top 10 right wing podcasts are the ones that Donald Trump hates.

1:02:29Now, J.D. Vance is trying to sell Donald Trump to this audience. And I'm going to push back against this a little bit because I don't think that this is actually what's required. And also, this is not Donald Trump engaging, as Megyn Kelly says. Donald Trump could engage. This is J.D. Vance engaging with Megyn Kelly. It's not like Donald Trump's going on Tucker Carlson's show so they can get into where they disagree. That would be, hey, at least then J.D. Vance would have a point, say what you will, but he's engaging. But this is kind of what I was getting at earlier in the show when I said that, look, MAGA, if we're entering a negotiation here of sorts, which in a way, isn't that kind of what J.D.

1:03:08Vance is doing, right? Like in a sense, Donald Trump and the administration. They're entering into negotiations with the Iranians. We're putting together this memorandum of understanding. In a weird way, J.D. Vance is also entering into negotiations with us. He's talking to the non-interventionist right. You know, he's talking about Tucker Carlson and Tucker Carlson's audience. Okay, well, there's a whole lot of overlap between my audience and Tucker Carlson's. I'm a person who regularly goes on Tucker Carlson's show, and I'm friends with Tucker. And, you know, I'm so as somebody kind of in this world as a somewhat influential figure in the non-interventionist, right?

1:03:43Okay. Let me respond to these negotiations. You're essentially saying, Hey, I'd like you to, here's what I'd like you to do. I'd like you to stay inside the tent. I'd like you to support Donald Trump. We can have criticism when we don't, but keep supporting this ticket now going forward. This is a good deal. You know, you're asking something of us. We are kind of asking something of you. There's, it's a bit of a negotiation and much like in your other negotiation with the one with Iran, where you had to realize that, oh, yeah, you don't have all of the cards. You don't have all of the chips. And in fact, if you look at the memorandum of understanding what's been leaked, there's a whole lot of things America has to do.

1:04:18There's only a couple things Iran has to do. Iran's like, open the strait, promise once again that you won't get nukes. Okay, we're going to do all this shit. We're going to leave the area, end the sanctions, open up the frozen assets, put together the fund, like all this stuff. You're in a very similar situation with us right now. Just saying you're kind of in that situation with us. You've lost. It's obvious. Even your own propaganda machine is saying you've lost. They are not running with you. They're not defending you. You're coming to Megyn Kelly now for the same reason that Iran's make that Donald Trump is making a deal with Iran right now, because you have to, because there's something you want out of these negotiations as well.

1:05:03It's not right. It's not. Look, here's the thing. They know this. And this is the deal I'm going to make here. OK, this is my offer to MAGA. And I want to hear your guys response. My listeners, MAGA people, I'm interested to hear what you think of this. The reason why J.D. Vance is coming back to negotiate, much like the reason why Donald Trump is going to negotiate with the Iranians is because there's something we need from them. That's part of the reason why he's giving them hundreds of billions of dollars. We need the straight open. We need, you know, there's something we need. Okay, well, what is it that J.D.

1:05:36Vance needs? J.D. Vance has to sell this thing to keep his political future alive, to keep this presidency that he's tied to alive. He needs to sell. He knows he's got the fight of his life now with the Israel lobby over the next 60 days for them to try to get this thing done. And so essentially he needs some backup. He's going to Megyn Kelly to be like, no guys, this isn't a bad deal. You know, it's a bad deal. Mark Levin wants boots on the ground. That's a bad deal. And Hey, you've come to the right place. You know, there's something that you want from us. And we kind of do have that. And you know what?

1:06:17I'm kind of inclined to give it to you. And so you're right. You need backup. We need to defend Donald Trump making this decision to admit defeat and to get us out of the war. For the next 60 days, what I suggest, now again, keep in mind, MAGA, you're not in the position of strength you think you are. I saw one poll came out that had Donald Trump at a 28 % approval rating the other day. That might be a little bit of an outlier, but low 30s. And by the way, at the end of this Fox News turning and this whole war is a loss. 28 might become the mean, might become the mean poll for Donald Trump real soon.

1:06:58And so keep in mind, the country hates Donald Trump's guts. He's one of the most unpopular, if not the most unpopular president in modern American history. You're not in a position of strength, but here's what I'm going to give you. Here's what I'll offer to MAGA. I will tone down for the next 60 days, I will do my best to tone down my criticism of the people pushing this deal and ramp up my criticism of the Israel lobby, Fox News, all the people, Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israel government, all the people who are trying to destroy this deal and keep the war going. I will focus my fight against them and I will defend Donald Trump in doing the right thing after being solely responsible for bringing us to this point, a person who was uniquely qualified to know exactly why he shouldn't be doing this.

1:07:47Okay? You came here for backup. We're going to give you some backup. But we're not going to pretend what just happened didn't happen. You made your choice. You know, much like your ex, you still got a kid together, but you cheated many times in this relationship, and you're not coming back to a relationship. We will help you do right by the kid, though. The kid is this deal. The kid is the country. We'll help in that effort. We will get out there and we will fight the Mark Levins and the Ben Shapiros of the world. We'll make that a focus going forward. But we're not going to forget what you did.

1:08:22And we're going to remind you that that was really a deal breaker for us. And so the only thing that we ask for in return, this is it. It's a very reasonable deal. It's not going to cost you nearly as much as the deal with the RAN. I'm not even looking for$300 billion. dollars. All I'm saying is that J.D. Vance, you can't be the guy going forward and we need you all to support Thomas Massey for president. It's all. It's all I'm asking for. Fair deal. And I think you're I think you guys should consider taking it. And listen, MAGA, I'm talking to you guys here. One of the benefits you get is that he's actually MAGA.

1:08:58I mean, he's actually America first. He actually believes in all the stuff that you claim to. The word. Sorry, we're you made the mistake of listening to Mark Levin we are never listening to Mark Levin again and so now I think you should get on board with someone who we can trust not to do that I think this is a fair deal and by the way we reserve the right to still bash you guys for making this decision um because you did and you're gonna have to live with that but here's the deal we'll fight against the people uh trying to hold up this deal we'll give you a political cover right now for the moment.

1:09:32And we all agree to support Thomas Massey for president in 2028. I think it's a fair deal. I think it's something you should consider. And that's our show for today. All right. Catch you guys on Monday. Peace.