A Response to Michael Knowles

33:40And I got to say. I think it would be huge. I mean, I think if Thomas Massey runs for president in 2028, it will it's a guarantee that it won't be the Ron Paul campaigns or the Pat Buchanan campaigns. It'll be closer to the Bernie Sanders campaign. And I don't say that I have nothing but admiration for Ron Paul and Pat Buchanan. It's just a question of the time and what the country was like. But I really think, man, Thomas Massey running in the Republican. Imagine, Rob, imagine a scenario here where Marco Rubio is the nominee and he's got to run in a primary against Thomas Massey. I mean, wow.

34:25Wow. Do I really love the idea of that? I like you. It's very exciting. And I see a very big wide open lane with a lot of winning storylines for Thomas Massey to run on and a lot of grassroots and organic support. And it seems like he's got all the winning hands. So listen, I hope he gives him hell. I hope he runs. I really think he can win and I'm excited for it. The factor that I have a blind spot to is to what extent I'm excited for the things that he cares about because I care about them and just how dumb the rest of the country is and how easily fooled they are by propaganda and whether or not what appears to be.

35:06it's amazing that someone could be right on everything. I mean, who, if you were having a conversation with them, doesn't think that we should get the criminality out of DC, who thinks that the spending is good, like on all of these things, it feels like you could have a conversation and they agree with you on everything. But yeah, like even the people who think there's nothing to the Epstein conspiracy, not a single one of them, if there would go, and we shouldn't declassify the documents. You know what I mean? Like if the fight is over declass, like who's who's saying and we shouldn't have transparency on them.

35:40But I just got to say, look, Rob, you're right, dude. You're right. Who knows? Look, at the end of the day, we're always running these experiments. And obviously things have become much more in our favor. But, you know, who knows? How much does Fox News and big money campaigns really move the electorate? Well, we're about to talk about this because we're going to respond to Michael Knowles here. But look, if you're just being real and you're not being like a Trump, you know, nut hugger who's who's just defending no matter him, no matter what he does. who like who is the average Republican vote again just imagine the scenario that it's Massey running primarying Marco Rubio is anyone gonna sincerely tell me that if they had their finger on the pulse of where the people are that they were more with Marco Rubio over the last you know than with Thomas Massey?

36:49And Massey's just more likable. Are you also... He's more likable. He's a better dude. He's better looking. He speaks better. Everything. He's got... But I'm talking on the issues. Are you really going to sit here and say, is any self-respecting Republican voter going to tell me that you really think big picture that Marco Rubio has been more on point than Thomas Massey? Like, I mean, I don't care if you're a fiscal conservative, it's Thomas Massey. If you're just not a neocon insane war hawk, it's Thomas Massey. If you oppose government corruption, it's Thomas Massey. If you're for drain the swamp, it's Thomas Massey.

37:33If you're America first, it's Thomas Massey. Like there's who other than Mark Levin, who has, you know, look, that's who MAGA is now. But who other than that, who other than the Israel lobby actually thinks Marco Rubio is better than Thomas Massey? And I would just love, oh, man, if that could be the perfect, like, you know, the perfect choice right there, the perfect, like, split. There you go. Let's let's delineate along these lines and see what side you fall on. That that to me is a political dream. And could win a lot of Democratic support in a general election, particularly like a Newsom or AOC, because he's not a Donald Trump Republican.

38:23So you're not going to have the same ability. You're going to have more people that he can pull over. No question. If you're running an actual America first, you know, let's just say it was like the broadly speaking, the position is that you don't want to fight stupid wars that we don't have to fight that are unwinnable. Like you don't want to permanently be at war for no reason to say we got to deal with the debt and the deficit to say we got to stop destroying the currency. We got to have transparency about, you know, government criminality that we got. Like, there's so many issues where Thomas Massey would not only have huge appeal in Republican primaries, but he would absolutely, I think, have enormous appeal to independents and leftists and Democrats.

39:16And yeah, a whole, you know, there's a huge, the America first coalition really, you know, can be gigantic. In fact, I would argue that even Donald Trump, who in 2024, obviously, like, you know, dominated politically with that coalition and won the popular vote in all the swing states and dominated the culture and all that stuff. I think that a candidate who didn't have his baggage could do even more. Now, to be clear, Donald Trump has a lot of baggage, but he also has a lot of like things that really aid in his coalition building, like how famous he is, how rich he is, how big a spotlight he has on him.

40:06But at the same time, I'm just saying, I'm just saying, like, theoretically, there's a much higher ceiling on Donald Trump's message than Donald Trump could ever put together because he's just, you know, he's a very alienating, you know, figure. and for you know for some reasons that are bullshit but then also for some reasons that are quite reasonable like he's a big dumb orange animal who's never read a book and is you know just kind of i don't know like a shitty person and and all the conservatives we're going to get to michael knolls in a second but michael knolls included if we were in a more free environment to say how we actually felt, Michael Knowles would also concede that Donald Trump is like a horrible person.

40:53Like Michael Knowles is a very, is a deeply conservative, religious person. He does not approve of a playboy who cheats on all of his wives and, you know, probably paid for several abortions, you know, type of guy. So anyway, so let's move into this clip. So I had essentially, I had talked about Michael Knowles in the podcast with Nick Fuentes. This was a couple of days before Thomas Massey's primary. And then Michael Knowles did a response video to that. So we're going to play that and give our thoughts on it. Let's start up the tape. A clip comes across my feed yesterday. People were tagging me in it.

41:36This was from before the Thomas Massey primary campaign, before the election on Tuesday, in which Dave Smith was taking some issue with my political analysis and my predictions. He was sitting with the reactionary commentator, Nick Fuentes, and Dave said that he was really eager to see what my reaction would be if my prediction turned out to be incorrect. Then the betting markets start like changing. Clearly, people are putting money in and influencing this. So Michael Knowles over at the Daily Wire, who I don't dislike Michael But his take on this was he goes, man, if Thomas Massey loses, this just shows the iron grip that Donald Trump has on the Republican Party.

42:22Oh, brother. And you're like, dude, dude, I mean, I think it shows the iron grip that the Israel lobby has. If there was like that might be a slightly more accurate take. But then I also go and I'll be interested because I think Thomas Massey is going to win. I think it's close, but I think he's going to pull this off. I wonder what Michael Knowles reaction to that will be. So if it proves that Trump has an iron grip when Massey falls out, what about when Thomas Massey wins and survives$20 million being pumped into his district? What would that suggest? I wonder what Michael Knowles, what his reaction will be when his prediction proves incorrect.

42:59You see Nick Fuentes there. He says, oh, yes, yeah, mm-hmm, yeah, that's right. I wonder what my reaction would have been had I been wrong. I guess we'll never know. Because my prediction was totally correct. Right now, round. All right. Let's pause this for a second and just skip ahead of this ad, if you don't mind, Natalie. So, all right, look, I will say this. Well, obviously, Rob, I didn't get that right. I mean, I said I think Thomas Massey will still win. And, look, I'll be the first to admit, perhaps I was predicting with my heart a little bit more than with my head. um you know the next day after that which was also before the primary we had ryan grimm on the show and ryan grimm kind of laid out the argument of why like actually it's probably more likely that thomas massey loses than wins and i couldn't really argue with what he was saying but okay regardless of that it's um two things and you can say how you feel about this rob but number one i uh you know i've reached out to michael knolls uh personally a couple times at this point to try to get him on the podcast to try to do a thing i've i've been down to have a discussion or a debate and it's kind of interesting that these daily wire guys like they always just like to like kind of bring me up in a moment when it's like oh this is when we have the advantage he said he thinks thomas maskey will win and he didn't so well i guess we'll never know whether I was right or wrong.

44:34But, you know, that really wasn't the point. And look, obviously, I said, I thought he would still win. I think I had reason to think that he had won his district several times. And I thought he probably had enough to hang on. But I was wrong about that. Still, that was obviously not the point. The point was that, like, to just say, If there's a congressional district and a lobby interest, whoever that might be, no matter what the let's say there was a candidate running for gun control and the NRA poured more money into that congressional district than had ever been poured into a congressional district in the history of the United States of America.

45:27And it unseated that candidate. The takeaway from that probably wouldn't be that that shows how much juice the president has. The takeaway would probably be that shows how much juice that lobby has. So that was obviously the main point. But if Michael wants to take shots at me for saying I thought Thomas was going to win. All right. Fair enough. I did get that wrong. Any thoughts? I thought the second half of this post, the ad break was more interesting to me. So I'll wait. Yeah. Well, well me too, but I would say just to the first part, it's like, okay, like, yes. If you want to say that, like we, I thought that Thomas Massey would still pull it off.

46:14I was wrong about that. And he lost. I don't think that really proves anything. Like, I don't think it really, I'm sure there have been races that Michael Knowles thought would go one way that ended up going the other way that I don't know. You know, I don't watch his show enough to really have like a detailed record, but I'm sure that's true. And it doesn't necessarily prove that you were wrong in your analysis leading up to it. But let's hear what else he has to say. Dave says, he goes, you know, look, I think it's going to be close. It wasn't even close. It wasn't close. It was a nine point swing.

46:48So that was that was the first bit. I found that very delightful. and I appreciate that Dave says he goes I look I don't dislike Michael Knowles and I feel exactly the same way actually I want to get Dave on one of the bar fight shows because he'd be a good figure for the show I would be the conservative Dave is a libertarian then we get some left winger I think that's a pretty good lineup because everybody could kind of disagree but sometimes would agree with each other so anyway I I'm okay let's just pause it right here okay just to be clear here, Rob, okay? As you know, this is my history with the Daily Wire guys.

47:22So I was on a Daily Wire show once ever. Candace Owens had me on one of her last shows on the Daily Wire, which probably was done intentionally to piss them off and helped her leave rather quickly thereafter. after but I've um here's the thing I have obviously for many many years I've been challenging Ben Shapiro to come debate and he's done a lot of segments on me and I've done segments back to them all of my segment and segments end with me saying Ben Shapiro why don't you come on the podcast or why don't we come do a debate and all of his segments end with him saying I'll never debate you uh anyway I've also like tried to get Matt Walsh uh to have a conversation before if you remember rob he he said not everything has to be a podcast dave like uh and and i was like yeah but we both podcast and we're disagreeing so like this could be a podcast and he goes no put your argument right here on twitter or i won't so he refused to podcast about it and then somehow his supporters still tried to go you're ducking him because you won't anyway michael knowles i've messaged before and said, hey, look, dude, I'm actually like, I really agree with you on a lot of stuff and I respect you.

48:43So we could have a cool conversation about this. He's refused. He has, and this is true. He has invited me on this bar fight show, which evidently is Rob, it's a show at a bar with an audience. And I think it's kind of like the ideas, it's a little bit unruly and people kind of like interrupt then you take questions and it's a panel they invited me on this this is true i mean i don't the day the exact days might be wrong but the spirit of what i'm saying here is completely true they i think they literally messaged me like on a monday and went can you do uh this show in dc on wednesday like the day after tomorrow can you be in DC and I was like what no like what are you talking about like this is this isn't even how you book a show what do you like so anyway they I think they asked me like a couple times and it was always like a ridiculous on crazy short notice like can you travel to go do this live show the show by the way Rob doesn't do numbers it's not like so anyway it's it's a little bit weird when Michael Knowles knows full well that there's like an open invite to like let's have a conversation which we could both jump on tomorrow for him to go you know I would maybe like to get Dave on a fight night because it'd be like a cool dynamic with the left and the right If you're doing a video about me, man, let's just talk about this.

50:22Why is it that your side is so averse to this very simple idea of having a conversation about this? Like, we can do it tomorrow. I literally mean this. Michael, you can sit in your home studio and I can sit in my home studio and we can talk about this issue. Why is it like I have to fly to D.C. for no money on 24 hours notice for no audience? This doesn't seem reasonable to me. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is Sheath Underwear, the underwear of legends, longtime sponsor of Part of the Problem. them. They have been sponsoring this show for, I think, almost four years at this point.

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51:44All right, let's get back into the show. I think that's a fair critique to that specific invite and certainly add some context to what they're offering. Well, yeah, literally, this is, I mean, this is, I'm not exaggerating. I will release the text messages if you want me to, but it was something like that. It was like, can you be in D.C. the day after tomorrow was the invite I got. It's like, what? No. OK, anyway, let's keep playing. And I look forward to, you know, seeing him on a bar fight show or something. But what about the first part where you say, OK, well, maybe Michael was totally right in his prediction.

52:24Maybe Dave was wrong in his prediction. but Dave and Nick Fuentes both take issue with my analysis. My analysis was part of my prediction. I said was if, if Massey goes down, this will be evidence that Trump has an ironclad grip on the Republican party. And the two of them, they say, Oh brother, here we go. No, it doesn't show. That's not what it will chiefly show. What's going to show is that the pro Israel lobby as an ironclad grip on the Republican party, that will be the chief takeaway if Massey goes down, but I don't think Massey's going to go down. Yeah, no, I don't think he's going to go down.

52:56No, he'll win. It'll be close. Whatever. Okay. So I want to point out, I was also completely correct in my political analysis of the broader context here. And let's be totally clear about it. I am not denying in the least that pro-Israel donors wanted to take Massey out. I'm not denying that at all. It's a little complicated because Massey's biggest... let's pause it for a second i love uh it's a great tactic when you're doing this the like the seeming admission but it's just something that's so obvious that you can't possibly deny it anyway you know like the the cops come to your door and there's a bazooka hole in the front of your house and you go i'm not gonna deny that there was an explosion in my house you're like okay thank you that's very bad yeah obviously you can't deny that because more money was pumped into this race than in any race in american congressional history okay bring it back a little bit and then play the point he's going to make right here because i'd like to take this apart before we get into the meat of it donors wanted to take massey out i'm not denying that at all it's a little complicated because massey's biggest individual backer was ardently pro-israel That's a slight confounding factor, but it's true.

54:13AIPAC wanted to take Massey out. All right, pause it there. Pro-Israel donors really wanted to take it out. Okay, so that is not a confounding factor. That means nothing. The fact that you could go, there's one of Massey's donors was also pro-Israel. Well, what does that mean, Rob? You know, as you know very well, there's a million people out there that just loosely would say, are you pro or anti-israel they'd go yeah pro israel are you pro or anti-ukraine pro ukraine you know are you pro like okay you might be pro israel in some generic sense especially if we're talking about like a boomer or something like that like yeah that's just the standard position but if you're a donor to thomas massey what do we really mean by being pro israel in today's context, right?

55:10Like, let's just say you found someone, you said, I mean, I don't have any donors, Rob. I mean, I have donors, you guys, listening. But I don't have anyone else other than you guys. But if someone, if you found out that there was like, someone was giving me a bunch of money and then you went, oh, they're pro-Israel. You go, well, yeah, sure, maybe in a sense. but clearly, you know, if they're given Dave Smith money, they're not like, you know what I mean? Like that doesn't really mean anything. It's like, no, the point is that the Israel firsters who think it's a political crime for you to argue that we shouldn't give aid to Israel and we shouldn't fight wars on behalf of Israel and we shouldn't cover up Epstein files on behalf of Israel.

55:58The people who think that's a crime worth being unseated versus the people who still support you even when you do that. So call him pro-Israel if you want to, but that's not what he's donating money to. Fair? Yes. Okay, let's keep playing. Massey out. But that was not the chief takeaway. And my proof of this is all of the other races, all of the other primaries that Trump intervened in, you can say the Israel issue was a big factor in the Massey race. How do you explain Brad Raffensperger in Georgia? Israel didn't play a single role in that election. That primary race was about Raffensperger's reaction to the 2020 presidential election.

56:42How do you explain Bill Cassidy's Senate primary? Bill Cassidy's Senate primary had nothing whatsoever to do with Israel. He just irritated Trump by turning against him, turning against him on the issue of impeachment. How do you explain the five Indiana state legislators who went down in their primary campaigns in all the races that Trump intervened in. That issue wasn't about Israel. That was about redistricting because they turned on Trump on redistricting. My point is not that the pro-Israel donors didn't want to take Massey out. My point is that the chief takeaway of Massey going down alongside Raffensperger and Cassidy and the Indiana legislature all at the same time is that the only common thread there wasn't Israel, it wasn't the 2020 election, it wasn't impeachment, it wasn't redistricting.

57:29All right, let's pause it right there. Okay, this is, I mean, Rob, look, dude, this is what happens again. I've said this so many times. This is what happens when you start with your conclusion, and then you just have to work your way backward from there. And then you just get into this sloppy thinking. I mean, this is, look, again, as Michael Knowles appreciated that I said, I don't dislike him. I kind of like Michael Knowles, but this is really sloppy thinking. I mean, this is clearly fallacious thinking. This is a fallacy. He doesn't even say that this is evidence, Rob, which it isn't. But he claims this is proof.

58:13This is proof that the story here isn't that the Israel lobby has the juice. The story here is that Donald Trump has the juice. Because you know what, Rob? Look at the Indiana state legislators. It's like, what? Listen, this makes I'm just saying this is objectively whether you're on Israel's side or you're on America's side or you think America and Israel are on the same side, whether you're for the war in Iran or against it, whether you're for Trump or against Trump, objectively speaking, Michael Knowles logic here is is fallacious. This is not correct. To say that it's proof that this race wasn't about the Israel lobby, it was about Trump, because look at all these other races, it just doesn't follow.

59:06It doesn't make, listen, that's like saying if eight people died today and you go, okay, well, what's the through line? What's the commonality between all of those people? That doesn't mean anything. If you go, hey, look, there were all these people who died from dehydration and they hadn't had a drink of water in two days. and let's say they were all real old people who are very weak and unhealthy and they all died from dehydration and then I had a young healthy person who also died and you went look what's the through line here dude he also didn't have a drink of water in two days and that's what killed all these other people and you go okay that's true but the difference is he was a young healthy guy They were old, sick people.

59:57And also a little other point, Rob, I should make. This guy has five bullet holes in his face. Maybe we should look at that. You wouldn't go, well, let me tell you the proof that those bullet holes have nothing to do with how he died, because what's the commonality here between him and these other people who died today? dehydration so in other words and i'm sorry rob i want to let you get your point in here but in other words if you want to say donald trump turned against a bunch of people and they all lost well okay look no one was ever saying that donald trump turning against a republican in a primary wasn't a bad a negative a net negative right donald trump even though he's one of the most unpopular presidents in American history.

1:00:52And even though he's one of the most unpopular presidents in the 21st century, and even though independents and Democrats hate his guts and that he's destroyed his entire coalition, the truth is, Rob, that Donald Trump is still very popular amongst Republicans, especially Republican boomers. You know, I mean, Donald Trump, but he's got like a, an approval rating in 35 % amongst the American people, but amongst Republicans, he's still got like an 80 % approval rating, maybe higher. I don't know. And so that guy being against you doesn't help. There's no question about that. It doesn't help. And so if If Donald Trump was against some other people, that probably didn't help them.

1:01:43And if Donald Trump was against Thomas Massey, that probably didn't help him. That in no way whatsoever proves, proves that the reason Thomas Massey, a, what was he, a seven-term congressman, lost this primary where more money than has ever been pumped into a congressional race was pumped into his. Like, I mean, come on, guys, right? This is fairly obvious to understand that that logic just doesn't logic. It doesn't mean that what's the commonality? Why does there have to be a commonality? Why can't, like, if you were at a hospital and you were assessing why a patient died, you wouldn't go, what's the commonality here?

1:02:29You'd go, no, this is a case-by-case basis. What happened here? So and by the way, just to throw some other, you know, a wrench into this logic of Michael Knowles. OK, I mean, there's also been a lot of Trump endorsed candidates who lost, including Trump endorsed primary candidates who lost Trump general election candidates who lost. I mean, I can think of so many like Blake Masters and Carrie Lake and I don't know, just like a lot of Trump endorsed candidates don't end up winning. and that's true for primaries as well, depending on the election. I mean, but Republicans who called Donald Trump Hitler won primary elections, you know?

1:03:12Mitt Romney became a senator after Donald Trump was, like, there's just lots of examples where the Trump, and hey, here's a crazy example, Rob. I don't know if this will make, but in 2020, Donald Trump was about as popular, Well, he was much more popular with the country, but he was about as popular with the Republicans. And in the year 2020, Donald Trump turned on Thomas Massey and called him every vicious name in the book and sent every one of his supporters to attack him and said he was horrible for the crime of being completely right. You know, Michael Knowles is bragging about being right on this political prediction.

1:03:57Libertarians, we don't always get our political predictions right. We're only right about all of the issues when they matter. Let's, I don't know, where were you, Michael Knowles, on lockdowns and government spending in 2020? Anyway, I actually don't know the answer to that. But anyway, for the crime of being right about passing giant spending bills in 2020, Donald Trump turned on Thomas Massey, denounced him in the strongest possible language. You know what the results in Thomas Massey's primary were that year? He got 82%. 82. Is it really that crazy? Has or has Michael Knowles not proved that the difference between 2020 Donald Trump and 2026 Donald Trump, you know, supporting, endorsing Massey's opponent, was the difference that?

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1:06:20Prolon is offering part of the problem listeners 15 % off site-wide, plus a$40 bonus gift when you subscribe to their five-day nutrition program. Just visit prolonlife.com slash P-O-T-P. That's P-R-O-L-O-N-L-I-F-E dot com slash P-O-T-P to claim your 15 % discount and your bonus gift. Prolonlife.com slash P-O-T-P. All right, let's get back into the show. Well, it's basically the same point just from a slightly different perspective. But what struck me in this clip was the weasel pivot by him, which is I'm assuming that the original quote was Thomas Massey losing showcases Donald Trump's iron grip on the party.

1:07:04And now he's defending a different statement, which is this batch of people that lost showcases that. And that's a different statement. So he's actually not defending if that was, in fact, the original statement. Maybe you guys took it out of context and he was talking about the whole group of them. But if his original statement was Thomas Massey, of course, he has now pivoted to defending a different statement. And it is a very large pivot. Yes, that's exactly right. No, what we were talking about was about the Thomas Massey race, of course. He's pulling a weasel pivot because it's more easily easy to defend the batch of them where the spending didn't exist in the whole batch of them.

1:07:45But that was not his original statement. And so he hasn't defended his original statement. Exactly. And as I said, the logic of his new statement doesn't even track. It doesn't make sense. Like, oh, well, these other people who Trump was against laws, like were these other let's let's do some controls. Were these other people, was Thomas Messier a seven-term congressman? Were they seven-term congressmen? Were they national figures? Did they have huge followings? Had they won previous primaries even after defying Trump with 82%, 75 % of the vote? Had they? I don't know. I don't even know. I'm sorry.

1:08:28I'm being honest. I don't know the details of the Indiana state legislator races, but I don't think so. I don't think that applies to any of them. So this is a different thing. And, you know, to try to sit here and say, yes, look, I'm not going to deny that Israel, like a lot of people who like Israel put money in against him. But, you know, some people like Israel put money in for him. Okay. But come on, man. Like the president of the United States of America has admitted that his biggest donor loves Israel more than him. And she put like$10 million or more into this race. Like you can't just call that for what it is.

1:09:12And again, as I've said before, you know, if you want to like, if you want to try to feed this slop to Fox News watching boomers, good luck. But in this, in this world, I just don't think that's going to play. And again, I will also say, look, I'm not even against, I would maybe do the show that he's talking about. we'd have to find a time what you know i'm busy i travel a lot um but maybe i would go down and do that but like michael knolls also just come on the show dude let's talk about this like why why is everyone is there not has daily wire not done enough segments about me that none of you have the balls to just come on a show what am i crazy to say this rob traveling to do a live show that's not a stand-up comedy thing you specifically want to do because it's fun for no money makes absolutely no sense, particularly for you as a man with a family who has to do a lot of travel dates and they pay money.

1:10:16It literally doesn't make sense. Well, also, in a way, we can just have this conversation. Why does it have to be at a thing? Yes, and you're right with the point you made, but I don't know, at a certain point, Like, I just wonder, how does it not, in a sense, just kind of win the argument? You know, again, it doesn't, I guess not technically, but it kind of win the day, win the argument by going like, how many segments are Daily Wire hosts going to make about me? Where at the end of every fucking one of them, I go, so let's talk about this. come have the conversation with me and every single time they refuse and now michael knolls who just again i i i personally messaged him after like we were on pierce one time together and i was like hey dude you know actually i'm a fan of some of your stuff let's like have a conversation be good doesn't respond but then it'll be like oh if you can be down in dc in in 36 hours we'll do like I don't know let's talk about this because honestly you're you're making this video I do like you Michael Knowles but you're being pretty smug in this video like you said Thomas Massie was gonna win and I said he loses and so it's like but your argument is bullshit dude it can't stand up to basic pushback so let's do it let's have a conversation maybe it'll be good let's cool the temperature in the room bring it down a little bit we'll have a friendly conversation.

1:11:50All right. I'm not holding my breath. All right. Thank you guys very much for listening. I'm glad we got this, uh, late night episode out to you guys. Uh, Rob, one more time, plug anything you got. Uh, yeah. Come check out, uh, firstly, run your mouth, uh, doing new episodes, sometimes two or three times a week. Uh, and then of course, uh, porch store.com got a ton of summer dates, probably playing somewhere close to you. Come hang out. Hell yeah. And, uh, tomicdavesmith.com for all of our dates together. Thanks for watching, guys. Catch you next time. Peace.