A Response to President Trump's Lies

29:54I mean, the guy who said we're in a new golden age, a new golden age has been ushered in and there'll be so much winning that you just get tired of winning. Well, okay. When you came in the second term, the Democrats had like a 23 % approval rating. They were totally defeated. You had the greatest political comeback in history. And now a year later, you're sitting around going, well, well, you know, they always lose. That's what happens. No, you had every opportunity in the world. And let me tell you something. If Donald Trump had delivered for the American people, I think the Republicans would be in a great position to keep control of the Congress.

30:37But they just haven't. And look, even by his own admission here, and he can get back into bragging about the border. That's probably the strongest argument that he has. And we'll hear him out on that. But even if he wants to say this little like, well, we took a little bit of a dip. I mean, well, the economy was white hot, but we took a little bit of a dip because we had to go fight this war, like already right there. That's a complete betrayal of America first. The whole point of being for an America first administration was no, we don't want to sacrifice over here for doing some unnecessary shit over there.

31:16Man, if Donald Trump's way of selling it now, you know, you got to go, you have to, your starting point is your campaigning on let's not fight these stupid wars, specifically the one in Iran too. Let's not fight these stupid wars. Let's stop wasting money. They're unnecessary wars. And let's focus on our country because we got so many problems here. And then you go, all right, actually, we got to sacrifice and tighten the belt a little bit here because we got to do something over there. it really in order to pull off that much of a 180 it really relies on your ability to sell people that this was necessary and Donald Trump just has the laziest thing of oh they would have destroyed the world I mean is there even one is there even one Fox News watching father-in-law who really believes that the world would have been over if we hadn't fought this war because is anybody that lost i suppose there's some people who just whatever trump says they'll believe but it's just like you in order to pull off a 180 like that you would need you know you would need something big look fdr may have ran on keeping us out of world war ii but we got hit on pearl harbor how much he knew about that.

32:34Leave that aside for now. But I'm just saying the optics politically of it. OK, that's enough where you could say, hey, I was against this thing, but we just got attacked. And so now we got to go into it. Donald Trump just simply doesn't have anything like that. He's sitting here and going he's going in the 80s, a group of Shiites in Lebanon who were affiliated with Iran killed some of our Marines. it's like okay but so you're saying we were attacked way back then but if that's the case why wouldn't you have been running on we got to go back we've been attacked why would why the switch up so there's just no there's nothing politically feasible about this propaganda working i guess that's the best i could say all right let's let's keep playing

33:22I should get credit. The border. Yeah, I should get credit. Yeah, I think we should. Well, I think we have to bring it back to talk. We don't need help on the border. But, you know, I built over a thousand miles of wall. We have to talk about it because we should be given credit for having taken this disaster where people were criminals were coming in from all over the world and pouring into our country. The worst thing, the worst thing that's ever happened. It was like an invasion. And we should be giving Maria credit for it. So I'm going to be talking about it. But I'm also going to be talking about we gave the voters the biggest tax cut in history, the biggest regulation cuts in history, the best economy in history.

34:06And now what we're doing is we went, we took this path. We knocked the hell out of Iran. We stopped them from having, they're not going to have a nuclear weapon regardless. By the way, I could leave tomorrow. They would never be able to have a nuclear weapon. For years, they would, because their country is devastated. All right, let's pause it here. Let's pause it for a second. So now Donald Trump, his new talking point is I could leave now, and they would never have a nuclear weapon. There's some major problems with that. Major, major problems. I mean, the obvious is just that Donald Trump, but this is what you said last time.

34:46This is what you said. You obliterated their nuclear program. This was your words. You went out of your way to say the fake news is pretending that we didn't obliterate their nuclear program, but it's 100 % obliterated, totally destroyed. if if that means we have to be back there in seven months with your number one justification still being iran can never have a nuclear weapon and all the frantic trump supporters going no this isn't a betrayal because he always said iran can't have a nuclear weapon or whatever which is a lot different than saying we ought to launch a war against duran if they enrich up to 60 or something but if this is the whole justification for the war and you're saying you've already ensured that they didn't, they don't have them, then there is no more justification for the war.

35:34But you're yourself saying we're not done with it. If that's the goal and that's been achieved, then come home and say that. But you know, you can't come home and say that because you already just said that seven months ago. Again, this is pathetic. Like this is, he just can't come up with anything better because there's no other way to sell this thing. You know, can't come out and just say, I fought a war for the Israelis. They told me it'd be really easy. And it turns out it wasn't. Now I'm having trouble getting out of it. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is Superpower, an awesome company who we're thrilled to have on board.

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38:45And it's like, it's just so embarrassing and unprofessional. Just just have this public dynamic where like, clearly someone who controls the Twitter or someone who's got the, you know, has the the password to the Twitter is like, post something talking shit about me, then you can clearly see after it, like three or four people get together and go, what are you doing? No, take it down, delete it. now it's like oh it just looks even worse now but anyway i so i had made this comment i was on with um sneeko and uh um i'm sorry i can't remember i'm blanking on the guy's name professor yang or something like that the the chinese uh professor and you know i had a conversation with both of them i really enjoyed it i thought it was a great conversation um and then today people are flooding me with oh this guy has all these bad takes on this issue like oh okay whatever well i guess i don't agree with that but we were having a conversation but what i said was and I think this is like pretty conventional political wisdom but I just went I said hey look there's an argument right now that the best case scenario is the Democrats winning the midterms like there kind of has to be some punishment for the Republicans here I also said I'm not going to vote for Democrats because I just can't get the stench of Democrat all over me I already got the stench of Donald Trump on me and I'm trying my best to wash that off so I'm not trying to pick up any new stench right now so I'm not voting for them and they're going to win the midterms anyway but I was basically saying the best thing probably is that the Democrats come back in the midterms.

40:12Then the, you know, this administration is totally discredited. No one from this administration can run successfully. And some other primary challenger comes along for, for 28. Anyway, I guess this, this upset people or something like that, but you know, for the people who took issue to this, I saw, uh, Stephen Crowder's producer was like, no, you know, whatever. Of course, that's never the right idea. It's always got to be the Republicans and never the Democrats because they give us so much success. But, you know, the real thing here is that even as people are freaking out, hey, what do you want?

40:47Listen, man, I said I'm not going to vote for them. So your beef isn't with me. The Democrats are going to win the midterm elections, and it's not because of me. I'm not voting for him. That's not why. It's because of what your guy is delivering. And this pitch, look, I'll admit this, the border thing, he's got a good pitch on. That is a fair enough pitch. It is the best thing that Donald Trump has to go with. It's the best accomplishment of the administration. It is not a small one. I'll give him credit for that. I'll call balls and strikes as harsh as I've been on them. Hey man, there was a genuine crisis under Joe Biden at the border and a very severe crisis, like a crisis, like, you know, the term gets so abused by our corrupt, fraudulent, you know, national security apparatus.

41:42But the crisis at the border, excuse me, the crisis at the border under Joe Biden was actually a national security threat. Like that's a term that gets used a lot. But there are things that are national security threats. The United States of America hasn't actually had to deal with too many of them because we have the most powerful military in the history of the world and two giant oceans and a global empire and all these things. You know, we've had terrorist threats, but like there was something about the border crisis with Biden that was more of an existential national security threat. You have people pouring into your countries by the millions or perhaps tens of millions, and you don't know who they are.

42:27That is a real problem. And that type of rapid demographic change against the will of the domestic population and the social upheaval that follows from, that was a major problem. Donald Trump got that border secure. That's good midterm messaging. That one thing is not going to be enough to win, though. And, you know, when Donald Trump wants to, this stuff about bragging about the economy is just, this is the touch of death. And so for all you guys, I guess my point is for all you guys out there who are so offended that I made some comments about how there's an argument that it's the best thing for Democrats to win in the midterms, which I think pretty undeniably there's an argument for.

43:10I'm not even saying with certainty it's correct. Who knows? But if your real concern is the Democrats coming back to power because they're such a threat, then just don't do yourself the favor of not lying to yourself. If you're telling me if this was every person like that, like Steven Crowder's producer, every like Trump supporting conservative, if Joe Biden was delivering this message, you would immediately see what the problem is in it. What are you bragging about here? The stock market going up, the Dow was over 50 ,000, which, by the way, every time you brag about that, all anyone can remember is how you covered up the Epstein file because it became such a meme that that was Pam Bondi's defense.

43:57but okay the issue which any republican would have agreed with me during biden because you know by the way joe biden um also bragged about record high stock markets because he also had record high stock markets and barack obama also had record high stock markets and donald trump the first time had record high stock markets and george w bush had record high stock markets because we live in an inflationary economy where the price of everything goes up Almost every president is going to have a record high stock market. But what does that mean? That really just means the price of things is going up.

44:32Now, that is good in some ways for the ownership class. This might be nice for your baby boomer, you know, your boomer con audience or something like that. But the major fundamental problem we have in the American economy is that the average first-time house buyer is 40. You cannot have a stable, functioning society of families if people can't afford to start them. And that problem, under Donald Trump, objectively speaking, has gotten worse. Now, you can sit here and do your CPI math about how the rate of it getting worse was worse under Joe Biden. By the way, I hate to burst your bubble for all the Trump supporters out there.

45:21While that is true, it was largely Donald Trump's fault. Donald Trump and Joe Biden really share the blame for the Biden inflation. Now, what do you think? In the year 2020, you locked down the country and injected$6 trillion into the economy. Is it a shock that in 2021 and 2022, the price of things increased a lot? Does Donald Trump bear no responsibility as he crammed the biggest spending bills in world history through in the year 2020 and demonized Thomas Massey for just requesting a vote before we commit fiscal suicide? So anyway, maybe that's neither here nor there to the political point, but that is a point that Trump supporters should grapple with a bit.

46:05But this message of telling people that everything is okay. Listen, Donald Trump did very well with the youth in the 2024 election. The best by far he's ever done. A lot of people credit the late Charlie Kirk for that. He certainly did a lot of work on that front. Imagine telling anybody, like anybody who's 30 and under, about how great the economy is. You know, when you, these guys, and this isn't like, I don't just say this like it's an anecdotal example or something like this. I use this example because it's like, this is actually like the prototype of the 29 year old in the workforce today.

46:53It's like, you're literally, you've got maybe 130 grand in student loan debt. You work at DoorDash and the average house in your neighborhood goes for$750 ,000. Someone's going to come along and tell you what a great economy this is. And now, you know, like you're at a place where like for you and your girlfriend to get Chinese takeout, it's$55. You know, like there's just, this is the touch of death. This is such a losing message. And meanwhile, what does it open the door for? It opens the door for the Democrats to say, we're going to run on, and what are they all running and winning on? Unaffordability.

47:37We're going to run on how the price of everything is so expensive. And the reason the price of everything is so expensive is because our nation is bankrupt. We cannot afford the size of government we have. And so all we can do is keep printing the money. And if Donald Trump's committed to more foreign wars, then he's committed to more money printing. And that's it. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is Ridge. I love Ridge. Love the Ridge wallet. I've had it for years. I was a real traditional wallet guy for many years. That's kind of my nature. I like to do things the way I've always done them.

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50:04forget 30 and under, say 40 and under 40 and under go to anyone who you know who's 40 and under and I want you to go up to them and be like dude, great news, the stock market's at an all time high and you know what they're going to tell you? great, I don't have any money in the stock market How the hell could I afford to where's this extra money that I'm putting into the stock market coming from? I'm literally I'm living at home. You know what I mean? Like this is this is what they're going to say to you. And I mean this like go talk to real people and see if I'm wrong about that. And maybe you will find the exception to the rule.

50:40There's some kid who got a trust fund or something like that. But like that is heavily the exception to the rule. and you know it's like people are not participating in the ownership class anymore and that is the central problem that any trump supporter should be aware of and if donald trump was not the current president right now you would absolutely agree with me and admit i'm right and i know this because you all did when i made the same point way back last year um yeah telling people telling telling people the economy is great when it's not is one of the worst political strategies that you can employ.

51:18All right, let's keep playing the rest of this clip. They don't have an Air Force. They don't have an airplane. They're all gone. And the press doesn't write about it. The New York Times, you think, if you read the New York Times, this fake, horrible newspaper, you would think they're doing well in the war. They have nothing left. They're going to make a deal. We'll see what happens. We have to explain to the voters, so importantly, the great job that we've done, because there's no reason why the Republicans should be losing. These people, they'll open up the borders again. They'll have transgender for everybody.

51:56They'll have men and women's sports. They'll end no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, no tax on social security for our seniors they'll end it all and if people hear that i don't see how we lose the election um you know look i i'll say maybe that's not the bet that that's not the worst you know keep hammering how crazy these democrats were you know the democrats were so crazy and so you know, it's not just crazy. It's like so almost suicidal nationally with the policies and then and then just sick and weird. And they were so bad for so long that look, I'm not saying there's not still some mileage to get out of that line.

52:41That's not the worst thing for Donald Trump. You know, like just talk about the border and just talk about how crazy the Democrats are probably politically speaking about as good as you can do right now. But again, there is, and this is where I think, you know, a lot of us who were talking about, like if you, a lot of people are like myself have been talking about since last summer, how Donald Trump is destroying his presidency. And at least last summer, there was still a little bit of a debate about it and a debate about how much this would actually affect people. You know, the one-two punch of launching the 12-day war and burying the Epstein scandal really bothered a lot of people, really fractured his coalition, which was already, you know, volatile, let's say, right?

53:38Like it was already, and over the issue of Israel. I mean, this is what the whole thing is over. And it was already very volatile about that and Trump continuing to fund the destruction of Gaza. But then he hits these this one to punch. And, you know, it wasn't obviously now there's a lot more evidence of how unpopular Donald Trump is. I mean, it really is amazing. All those people who like to who cite the MAGA Republican polls. But if you actually go look at the polls like I just thought there were CNN of all places ran a story about this, but it is true that there were three national polls, three major national polls that all had Donald Trump underwater with working class, non-college educated white people.

54:25Like Donald Trump has lost the white working class vote. That is his base. That was his entire base from the very beginning. He's underwater in the polls. He's this is the most unpopular war in American history. Like he's he's in a lot of trouble now. But I remember saying last year that I thought the Epstein thing really, really hurt Donald Trump more than polls could even measure. And because there is something about the Epstein issue where, look, it is a lot of people try to downplay it. And they go, look, man, what people really care about is is, you know, their health care costs, their mortgage payments, their property taxes, their daycare costs.

55:09And like there is truth to that. People will try to say the same thing about Iran. You talk about this Iran all day, but what people really care about is how this country is doing. And it's like, yeah, but the point is that no one's trying to solve those problems because we're focused on this other nonsense. And that's why we have to oppose it. We can't begin to solve these problems until we get out of these stupid wars. And so anyway, I guess my point with the Epstein thing, it's like midterm elections always come down to who is more energized. Their midterm elections get a much lower turnout than presidential elections.

55:48And so you got to have your base energized. And the energy factor for Donald Trump was always drain the swamp. Like, I don't think I'm, you know, I'm not going out on too much of a limb here. Like, this is what everyone would have said. This was the whole thing. Donald Trump's whole pitch was like, there are these corrupt criminals in Washington, D.C. who wield government power, who are destroying the country. They're selling you out for their own benefit. I'm going to get in there and win for you. And I'm going to get all of those guys. And get all of those guys was always front and center. None of this means anything to Donald Trump because he just makes campaign pledges.

56:31You know, we're going to build a wall. OK, we never built a wall. I'm never going to take one dollar from anybody. OK, he took more money than anybody else from all the most powerful people. But like but he also said, I'm going to throw Hillary Clinton in jail. It's not. Look, they chanted lock her up at every single Trump rally through all of 2016. This shit resonated with the crowd. And likewise, all the, you know, do you remember when MSNBC used to try to damage Donald Trump by claiming that his his second presidency was going to be all about vengeance? And every single normal person in the country heard that and said, that would be cool.

57:16Yeah, that would be nice if he really went in there and wanted to get like, hey, dude, what are we talking about here? The deep state framed Donald Trump for treason. The deep state stole the 2020 election. And I mean, listen, when I say this and try to think bad, I am not making any of the Dominion voting machine claims or anything like that. I'm just saying straight up with the Hunter Biden laptop, which we have proven now from the Twitter files where they were really, I mean, not only directing people to squash that story, but then suppressing the people who were covering the story, like all types of government, deep state pressure to kill a story.

57:59And then they came out and had that list with all these intelligence analysts or agents signing on saying this is Russian misinformation when it wasn't. We now know confirmed it was Hunter Biden's laptop. So Russian misinformation campaign, And nothing to do with anything like that. But and this issue undeniably would have been at least a few points for Donald Trump. And in a razor tight election, that was the difference. Like they stole that election from him. OK, and then the covid lies and the covid and look, Donald Trump's whole promise. Many of his his men made the promise very explicitly was that we are going to go after all the deep state criminals.

58:43This was what Dan Bongino and Cash Patel rode that wave of popular support. Pam Bondi as well. Donald Trump as well. And so when you're now in a reality where everybody knows on some level, on some very fundamental level, everybody knows that Donald Trump will not be draining the swamp. That will not be happening. There have at this point been zero deep state arrests. And they bury the Epstein thing. Like this is not an administration who's interested in getting the truth out to the people and holding the criminals and government responsible. Once you take that away, where is your energy base?

59:26That was the thing that motivated people to go vote for you. And. It's evaporated. It's gone. And that is why you're not going to win the midterm elections, not because, you know, well, presidents always do. And even though we've had the greatest year ever, we're still going to lose. Here, let's go to the other clip, Natalie, the third clip. Let's play that and then we'll wrap up in a few.

59:59The economy, we have a great economy. Remember, if I didn't want to make that little journey to Iran, that was a journey. I said, we're going to have to do this for the good of the world. So you still expect growth in the economy this year? I do. I mean, I do. Look, we had a couple of months where I'm, you know, I had to go to a war. I had to go and fight either a military operation. Some people would call it a war. Some people call it a military operation. Just pause it already. Just pause it already. I mean, guys, again, if any of you guys are concerned about the Democrats coming back to take power in this country, your issue ain't with me.

1:00:36your issues with the guy you just saw on the screen. Think about that. He literally just said, though we have a great economy, we had to take a little journey into Iran for the good of the world. Now, is that America first or is that some globalist bullshit? So we have to sacrifice our economy for the good of the world. Good luck. I can't, now why would white working class people not be supporting that message anymore? Is that the same message that he had that got them to support him? Or is that something a little bit different? It's 180 degrees. Like, what do you, you know? And, you know, just this is, I don't know, man.

1:01:20This is death. This is death. There's no way this is going to work. And so, again, if you want to try to pretend this is something other than what we're seeing, then fine, go for it. But this ain't going to work. Here, let's keep playing. It is military in the world, but I had to divert because if I didn't do that right now, you would have Iran with a nuclear weapon. And if they had a nuclear weapon, you would be calling everybody over there, sir. And you don't want to do that. Well, you keep saying was is this. Okay, pause it. John. Pause it. Okay. So this is where we're getting back into the part from before.

1:01:59But. You know. I guess there's two major points there. They're just the two easy ones. Number one, you're lying. You're lying. It's just not true. It's just, it's just not true that Iran would have a nuclear weapon already. There's no truth. It's just lying. No evidence of this whatsoever. And then of course, as we've talked about for months and months, all of the intelligence says that that's not true. It's just not true. And in fact, if Donald Trump hadn't gone in on the 12 day war, there'd be IAEA inspectors in Iran right now. They were still under an inspections regime. So it's just not true that they could have developed a nuclear weapon by now.

1:02:44There's absolutely no reason to think that they would have. and of course then point b is like yeah but okay well then that totally destroys your whole claim from the last war as what do you mean they'd have a nuclear weapon right now you said you obliterated their program seven months ago if what you meant was we set them back seven months okay well that wouldn't even make sense right because there had to be some time to develop the bomb right so if you're saying they would have a weapon right now you're saying that what You set them back three months and then they were able in four months to break out, enrich their uranium up to 90 plus weapons grade percent, make a bomb, find a delivery mechanism to the bomb.

1:03:30Like all of that would have happened in a few months. OK, well, then you were totally wrong when you said you obliterated it. What you meant was you barely set it back. Now, I'm sorry, but I'm not going to stop beating this drum because all those people who defended the 12-day war, they got to admit that they got that one wrong. If you're going to support this one, then you got that one wrong. Now, of course, just to be clear, the truth is that Iran hadn't made the political decision to get a bomb. They weren't intending on getting a bomb. They were actually trying to avoid getting a bomb. They were quite happy to get back into a JCPOA-like deal.

1:04:06and that if they had at some point made the political decision to start developing a weapon, it would have taken them years in order to do it. And we would have known that they were doing it. At least we would have known that they kicked the inspectors out of the country because you can't do it unless you do that. So none of this is true. Just a big fat lie. But if it was true, it totally contradicts the last thing you said. All right. You know what? We'll wrap on that because I think that was looping right back into the part we had covered before. But I will still I there's one other one I should add that was just a noticeable throughout the interview is that.

1:04:42And again, this is just it's it's almost too easy. And the problem is that. You know, Trump supporters, just the ones who are still supporting them, particularly, they just don't really care. They'll they'll make an excuse. It doesn't matter if what he's saying contradicts what he just said. It doesn't matter if one sentence contradicts the last sentence. It doesn't matter if he sits there and says, you know, I had to take this detour into this war for the world. So we had to our economy had to suffer for the world. Now, now they're pretend that that's what MAGA is. That's what Trumpism is. It doesn't matter if he says I had to take us into this war, then pauses, then notices that he's not allowed to say it's a war out loud because it's totally fucking illegal if he calls it a war.

1:05:25And then goes, I call it a military action. Some call it a war. But here's one more for you. Donald Trump, you literally, I know some people may have seen, there's these old tweets of his that'll resurface now. People will pull up tweets from, you know, 2014, 2016, 2012, whatever he was saying back then. And what he was saying back then was that Obama was going to launch a war against Iran to distract from his failing presidency. That's what he says. He was warning that Obama was going to get us into a war in a round that would have been a disaster. And now he goes, none of the presidents before me had the courage to do it.

1:06:11And they really should have had the courage to do it. That's how much he's moved the goalposts over the years. From being the guy warning, don't you dare pursue this policy. It's going to be a nightmare to be in the guy going, what a chump. He didn't have the balls to pursue this policy because it's so awesome as he can't find a way out of it. All right. That's our episode for today. Catch you guys next time. Peace.