In short
The hosts argue that “woke 2.0” (AOC’s framing) is returning in a new form, and that leftist politics is losing credibility while pushing authoritarian, anti-self-improvement ideas. They also revisit a prior debate/podcast appearance and claim it exposed repeated war-prediction failures.
Guests
No guests appear in the provided transcript. The hosts discuss prior guests/figures: Ben Ferguson and Will Chamberlain (from a prior Pierce Morgan segment) and AOC (mentioned as announcing “Woke 1.0 is over”). Iran is discussed as a geopolitical actor.
Guest backgrounds (mentioned, not interviewed here): Will Chamberlain is treated as a war/political defender who posted responses online; Ben Ferguson is described as defending Trump on Pierce Morgan. AOC is referenced as a left figure shaping “woke” branding.
Key claims
Leftists are allegedly shifting from “woke 1.0” to “woke 2.0” without clarifying goals; they supposedly frame politics as oppression, encourage self-destructive behavior (e.g., rejecting fitness, embracing “dysgenics”), and may enable censorship/authoritarianism if Democrats regain power. They claim GLP-1/eugenics rhetoric is part of this trend.
Notable examples
A clip accusing Will Chamberlain of predicting Iran’s regime would collapse within a month (later still standing). Clips from “Socialism 2026/2027” featuring arguments against fitness and for “dysgenic” revolution. Discussion of mask-wearing as a lingering “COVID” authoritarian impulse.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VORecapping the Last Episode
0:06 to 1:02
Discussion about a recent episode with Ben Ferguson and Will Chamberlain defending Trump.
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Recapping the Last Episode
1:40 to 5:22
Discussion about a recent episode with Ben Ferguson and Will Chamberlain defending Trump.
“And I would say, well, what's it been Rob?”
The Importance of Accountability
5:22 to 6:45
The hosts discuss the need for accountability in political commentary and predictions.
“But so, but it's not just that he made a prediction, which is a big thing to make.”
The Importance of Accountability
6:50 to 7:20
The hosts discuss the need for accountability in political commentary and predictions.
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Cultural and Political Dynamics
7:47 to 12:02
Analysis of political dynamics and cultural shifts affecting the media landscape.
“So this is so I see anyway, I, you know, it's like the episode's been out for 24 hours.”
The Risks of Team Politics
12:02 to 14:00
Critique of team politics and the consequences of election strategies.
“I think he's doing you a service and letting the world know that he's game to be the heel so that he can go on and say absolutely buffoonish things so that you can smack him down.”
The Risk of Team Politics
14:00 to 18:20
Explore the dangers of partisan politics and the potential consequences of ignoring necessary criticisms.
“What's what's because it's already being built up here and you see it all around you that like people are going, oh, you'd rather side with the left.”
Understanding Woke 2.0
18:20 to 22:59
A deep dive into the evolution of woke culture from Woke 1.0 to Woke 2.0 and its implications.
“And I'll be honest, Rob, I don't know that I completely understand Woke 2.0.”
Reflections on Woke Culture's Influence
22:59 to 28:05
Discussion on the current state of woke culture and its potential resurgence along with concerns about authoritarianism.
“Yeah, well, I guess luckily I haven't had to contend with that much woke loudness or woke shaming of me or that much of infringement of whatever the woke values are in my life.”
Critique of Leftist Ideals
28:05 to 36:05
Exploring the troubling implications of extreme leftist ideologies regarding health and societal norms.
“There's just something like very creepy about it.”
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The Nature of Self-Improvement
37:33 to 42:00
Discussion on the importance of self-improvement amidst societal challenges and the rejection of self-destructive behaviors.
“Like, don't guys, don't improve yourself.”
The Impact of Societal Standards on Health
42:00 to 46:10
Explore how societal pressures influence perceptions of health and body image.
“to a job every day and do as little as possible and be physically incapable of doing the job so that they can take less advantage of you.”
Critique of Health Policies and Political Ideologies
46:10 to 53:37
Discuss the implications of health policies and the contradictions within political ideologies regarding obesity.
“Um, but he's not just talking about, he's talking about that GLP ones are the outpouring of the fact that society, um, in some regards looks down on people being overweight.”
Human Nature and Inequality
55:04 to 56:00
Delve into the nature of inequality and its persistence despite attempts at egalitarianism.
“I think someone should just tell this fellow that he's being oppressed by the stairs.”
The Return of Wokeness: Analyzing Social Inequality
56:00 to 1:05:19
Explore the implications of social inequality and the potential resurgence of wokeness in political discourse.
“the exact equal amount, every single human being.”
The Return of Wokeness: Analyzing Social Inequality
1:05:52 to 1:06:08
Explore the implications of social inequality and the potential resurgence of wokeness in political discourse.
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Transcript
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1:02what's up? What's up everybody. Welcome to a brand new episode of part of the problem. I am Dave Smith. He is Robby the fire. Bernstein. How are you feeling today? My friend, I am well, how are you? Mr. Smith cannot complain. I'm looking forward. Me and you got a back to back weekends coming up. This weekend we'll be in Louisville, Kentucky. Really looking forward to that four shows out there. And then the following weekend we'll be out in Fort Worth and Dallas at the hyenas respectively. They have two clubs. One night we're in, in Fort Worth. The other night we're in Dallas. And we had a great time in Louisville last time we were there.
1:37Really looking forward to getting back out into Thomas Massey country. And I would say, well, what's it been Rob? I think every year for at least the last four or five years, I think me and you have, Dallas and Fort Worth has been always one of our favorite stops down there maybe at least three years i think this is our third or maybe fourth year i think it's four i think it's four maybe i'm wrong anyway uh but we always have a great time there that's always like one of our favorite uh stops dallas the fort worth area um and of course this weekend lou bill so yeah come on out comic dave smith.com and of course rob is porching all over the place uh what do you got coming up uh this sunday in cincinnati then before our run i'm out in the Dallas area to fans brewery.
2:24Then I got Sacramento, Reno and salt Lake city. You can find all these dates at porch tour.com and got a couple of leads on San Fran area, but if you, uh, nothing yet confirmed. So you can still shoot me a message, Robbie, the fire, all social media. You can still be the San Francisco hero on the 2026 porch tour. Um, dude. So I, uh, I wanted to talk about this. I said a weird, you know, I mentioned, I end up recapping a lot when I'm on like Pierce Morgan on this show, but you know, like it's just, it usually the way the timing works, I usually flow right from recording that into recording this.
3:02But so I had mentioned that this episode, the last episode I did, it came out yesterday after we recorded. And as I said, the episode was just, you know, it was Ben Ferguson and Will Chamberlain defending Donald Trump. They just, they did terrible. I mean, they had, they had nothing. Um, I do want to give out, by the way, I want to start here with a quick shout out to breezy politics, uh, which is a good account. They do a lot of, uh, um, a lot of viral videos and stuff. Um, but I want to give them a shout out cause they did find the clip, which I appreciate. There's so much, I can't believe people haven't been doing more of this clipping just over 12 day war to now predictions the Hawks had made.
3:45But anyway, let's just play this real quick. I just wanted to show you this to you because it's really, I thought this was kind of interesting. So here's breezy politics clips up the thing, which I've alluded to a few times, but they got the date and the clip in there. So I do appreciate that. So here's the start. This is a little medley of my appearance yesterday and the last time Ian Will Chamberlain spoke. So here it is. In terms of getting things wrong, you did say back on this show when me and you were debating, I believe in April, that you would be shocked if the Iranian regime was still standing in a month.
4:18We have the ability to completely squeeze them. And the idea that they can survive this for, I mean, I'd be shocked they could survive it for another month, let alone six. Okay, you just said you'd be surprised if they have a month left. In a month, when this government is still standing, you will move the goalposts to something else. This is what you guys do through all of these wars. They did it for 20 years in Afghanistan. So now you're coming back here. You don't even acknowledge that anymore. So, no, if you weren't wrong about everything, maybe Donald Trump wouldn't have destroyed his entire coalition.
4:45But you were completely wrong. Dude, there were six war aims for this war when you said that. Last time I talked to him. Dude, it's not, again, I do appreciate him just finding the clip of this. Because Will just literally did not address this the entire time. He has not since. But it's not, Rob, it's not just that you go out. And tell me if I'm being unfair here. It's not just that you go out. Oh, I should say real quick, Rob. So I swear to God, during the live taping of the show, which I do this all the time, I write it for the rest of the show. I was in my mind going, shit, was it in May? I couldn't remember whether it was April or May.
5:19I do this so many times where I have a great rant, but then I get one little detail wrong. Anyway, it wasn't April. I was right. But so, but it's not just that he made a prediction, which is a big thing to make. That's going to make you look really bad in a war. If you make a bold prediction in a month, this regime will be gone. But it's Rob, it's the fact that he says, and of course, Will's just a liar, but it's the fact that he says, I'd be shocked. Like that is, if you say I'd be shocked if this regime lasts another month, let alone another six. And it's six months later and they'll still hear.
5:54So you are shocked by what happened. Okay, well, Rob, me and you are fucking not. We are not shocked by what happened. So doesn't this very clearly in some sense just show you? Yeah. One of you had your head wrapped around what was going on here. One of you are fucking out to lunch and delusional. You thought this regime was a month away from collapsing. Anything but was the case. And I told you to your face at the time. Obviously. You call referee Rob Bernstein. hey fans clip more receipts and uh if you end up doing another show with him on uh piers morgan you should demand that uh you guys play the receipts and he responds to his previous claims about the war i mean jeez you know rob if he's gonna go on as an act as if he's gonna go on as some form of an expert and give his opinion uh he should have to acknowledge his track record so before he makes the next bold statement all right guys let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is The Wellness Company.
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8:14and here's what was accomplished and all this. It's like, this is how you're going to handle it. But the one post I saw today, and I got to say, this is, look, this isn't, I'm not even bringing this up. This isn't about the Pierce Morgan episode. And this isn't about Will Chamberlain. It's certainly not about me. It's just that this was so much. And you'll see when I play this, this is just, it's the broader theme of what's going on right now. And it's so obvious. Like, I will say this, Rob, one of the advantages me and you have had as political analysts over the last, you know, whatever it's been that me and you have been doing this together now, um, been years, uh, we're not met.
8:56We're not like loyal soldiers of the left or the right. We're not loyal soldiers of the Democrats or the Republicans. And so we don't have the same type of like emotional attachment that like 95 % of people have where they just want to fit this back into their team being right somehow. And so we're able to just kind of call balls and strikes and go, ah, the Republicans are totally toast. Ah, the Democrats are totally toast. Dude, I remember, and I'm sure you remember this well, Rob, we were doing the show together. In the old Twitter, do you remember in the old Twitter 1.0, when it was Twitter, and there would be like blue check journalists, and they kind of had the reign of the place, you know, and there was tons of censorship against all types of right wingers.
9:40But do you remember when like Taylor Lorenz, when she was at the Washington Post, she'd post something and just every comment was telling her how much they hate her guts. Like they just couldn't kick enough people off for every comment to not be like, I fucking hate you. We hate the corporate press is the enemy of the people. And then the blue check journalist would say something like, looks like I triggered the trolls. do you remember this was like a real dynamic on twitter where they'd go oh looks like the deplorables are angry today and this would be the way they coped with the fact that the entire audience hated their guts and then cnn would be out at like a rally and the champs would be like cnn sucks cnn sucks like it would just be and it was like dude the writing is on the walls as always say my favorite simon garfunkel uh lyric the words of the prophets are written on the subway walls and tenement halls.
10:32But this is like internet comments. And then, Rob, we were maybe at the height of this. We were two years away from the entire culture shifting, the floor falling out from under those blue check journalists. They have lost all of their influence and legitimacy and all of this. And in the same sense, so just picture, this is what I see Will Chamberlain post. This is his response to the episode yesterday. And Natalie, if you could just pull this up. I found this to be truly incredible. Will Chamberlain posts, you know, you did well. Although let me see his comment on this. You know, you did well on the Pierce Morgan when the comments look like this.
11:09And it's just a bunch of comments saying how much they hate Ben and Will. And like, this is what we're up to now. It's just every comment that he focuses is just how they're insufferable, how they're hacks, they're, they're, it's just embarrassing how they're proxies for the White House press secretary. like every comment is just how embarrassing that. And he's posting this as like a badge of honor somehow that it's like, huh? So now don't get me wrong. I suppose, I don't know exactly what he means by this Rob, or if it's just kind of self deprecating, but it's not, if you know, wheelchair, but he's not being self deprecating.
11:45He's being like snotty. He's going, yeah, I don't care. I'll stand up against everybody. And you're just like, you look at this and go, dude, can you guys not see the writing on the wall here? This is the losing game. No one buys your bullshit. This is going to crash and burn. But any thoughts, Rob? I think he's doing you a service and letting the world know that he's game to be the heel so that he can go on and say absolutely buffoonish things so that you can smack him down. And he's doing his job well because everyone's so upset at him. Yeah, there was just, what's his name? Is that big pollster?
12:23Oh, God damn, I'm blanking. His name is Charlie something. Oh, is it Charlie Cook? I want to say, I don't know. Um, yeah. Anyway, there's some, uh, big pollster, uh, who just had, um, like their, one of their things was like, yeah, there's like a real, like the nightmare scenario for Republicans is basically at the highest odds that it's been. I mean, I just, I just don't know how you could look at this and say, when, when you look at the, the, you know, for all those, those, those MAGA polls. Remember Rob, how they always loved MAGA. He's still, you know, at 89 % with MAGA or whatever. It's like, dude, he is literally Donald Trump right now is polling.
13:09Almost. I want to say identical to where he was right after January 6th. He's at his lowest. He's the whole political comeback has been completely undone. He's he's around where George W. Bush was after two disastrous wars and a financial crash. And then he was I saw a poll the other day that had him at 24 percent with independence. Like. Understand that you typically have a bad midterm year anyway, so I just I guess this is just kind of because I wanted to get into some of these some of these more ridiculous videos. But it's not just because they're ridiculous because there is a point to this.
13:48But I guess just like on the main point here that I really do want to harp on the framing of this as we go into these midterms. I'm sorry, but I am simply not going to accept as we've predicted this thing the whole last year. What's what's because it's already being built up here and you see it all around you that like people are going, oh, you'd rather side with the left. than keep going and getting the benefits of whatever we're getting out of the Trump administration when the reality here is so clearly that this shit that you guys are putting up can't possibly win. And so because of you guys, we're going to get the left.
14:31Because of you guys, we're going to give these Democrats more power, which I do want to stress, I am very concerned about, Rob. Very concerned about. yeah i just i can't stand the team sport aspect of this of uh hey we're gonna do the exact thing that you guys don't want don't want us to do we're gonna get you guys involved in foreign wars you have no interest in and didn't vote on uh we're not gonna focus on america first you are gonna have inflation but the other side is even worse so you got to make sure to stay on the team and not criticize it's just how do you ever make improvements under that model of hey it's just the two sides get to work together to always almost be like in a in tandem get worse and worse and so the other one's always more of a threat and so if you're on your team you really got to dig your heels in just to combat the what you don't want on the other side and then just everything just keeps sliding down a slide and getting worse yeah and i don't know if i'm explaining that right but it makes sense no i know you're right you're no i completely agree with you but also that it's not it's not just that it's the it's the exact opposite like in the same sense that forget even like being on a team, if you're just talking about delivering, like if you were, if you were giving a good friend of yours advice and you were like, dude, like, I think you're really ignoring your wife and you're not like spending time with her and you're not listening to her.
15:52And, and he was like, Oh, don't spend your time criticizing me. Like then she's going to end up leaving me for somebody else or something like that. You'd be like, no dude, I'm giving you advice so that she doesn't go leave you for somebody else. Like the whole point of this is that no, if you don't do it that way. Like, yes, if you, this could have worked, if you guys actually delivered some wins, if you delivered some wins, you could have staved off the left at this point. I don't know how you're going to, I don't even know if there's a possible plan. I mean, look, dude, we've already, as we saw in the last episode, it's been admitted.
16:26This thing's going to be going on through the, the midterms and who it's going to be very interesting by the way to see there's, there's a real interesting moment of the ball being in Iran's court here. Cause Iran is, has very openly said many times they've talked about the midterm elections and how they're going to keep this thing going through the midterms. And Hey, does Iran do a little escalation around that time? You know, Iran has for the most part in this war, Rob, been responsive to us, but that doesn't mean they can't start up. And in fact, I have seen reporting of different factions within the Iranian regime, some of whom are arguing that they should take the lead and escalate the war.
17:09So just saying lots of different things can happen there. But I, you know, I do think that obvious, I just think for anybody, like if you're just even slightly thoughtful about this thing, you would go, hey, look, dude, look, you don't have to convince me and Rob what a threat the radical left is. Like, we're such anti-statists that we never vote for Republicans or Democrats. Like, we're not, we're, and I got, ended up getting on board with Trump. This is how, in part, how crazy the Democratic establishment and the left wing in this country have gone over the last 20 years. It's been, it's, it's truly been a major destructive force.
17:50But then the point is when you sweep them out of power and sweep back into power and they have a 24 % approval rating and they're in the toilet, you have a profound responsibility to govern responsibly and effectively so that you don't give these guys a chance to get up off of the mat. And okay, so anyway, that's over. The left is getting up off of the mat. AOC has announced, Rob, that Woke 1.0 is over. Woke 1.0 was crazy, dude. Remember that? That was a little bit nuts. But now we have Woke 2.0. And I'll be honest, Rob, I don't know that I completely understand Woke 2.0. I don't know that they completely understand Woke 2.0.
18:37You know, it's like, let me say it like this, and then you tell me what you think, Rob. This is kind of more or less how I see it. Um, okay. Broadly speaking. Well, there was, I mean, I can't go through the whole history of kind of like cultural Marxism, but there's no question that the original view of Marx kind of failed, like in terms of his predictive power, like Mark, I mean, a lot of Marxism was flawed, but Marx made very clear predictions about how the workers of the world were going to unite under their common, you know, uh, economic class and that they were going to overthrow, um, the bourgeois and there would be a dictator of the proletariat and then socialism would rise and eventually communism.
19:22And the exact opposite is what happened. What happened in the years after Marx's writings is that the workers of the world united under their nationalistic banners to go to war with the other workers of the world on behalf of the capitalist class. It just did not happen it all the way Marx said. And so there were a lot of like, um, socialist and leftist Marxist thinkers after that, who were like, Hey, why didn't it happen the way it was supposed to happen? And many of them came to different conclusions and that, well, the capitalists like culture had so broken this, whatever that they needed, they needed the long March.
19:58They needed these other like kind of reform. So anyway, what leftism really kind of, there's a lot of different chapters and very interesting history here, but what leftism kind of, by the time it gets to America wokeism 1.0 kind of molded into was something that people would call cultural Marxism back when I used to read about it back in the day. But it was the idea was essentially that if you take the Marxist view of like, you know, the Marxist view would be like in economic terms, everything is seen through oppression versus oppressed, that there's always the oppressing, the oppressive class and the exploited class.
20:38And essentially they would take this and you could just think this is like what pop leftism is to most people over the last 20 years. Okay, take that, but apply it to black and white. Now apply it to gay and straight. Now apply it to men and women. Now apply it to trans and cis. Now, so everything is seen through the lens of like oppressor versus oppressed. And that's where you get all these grievance identity. And that's where you get this insane insistence on just cultural weirdness, like almost anything cultural that's normal is inherently oppressive and anything that's weird is inherently, you know, the virtuous exploited one.
21:14Okay. Now this all blew up in their face because people hate all this stuff. It's just enormously unpopular. And so now it seems like woke 2.0 Rob is like, oh no, no, no. We're just saying we're doing socialism. But it's also like a lot of those people have still been through the last 20 years. And there's still like these kind of weird questions where you're like, yeah, but what exactly are your views on all these other things? There's just, you know what I'm saying? It's a very weird woke 2.0 is a very strange thing where none of their leaders will just come out and kind of say, this is what we're for.
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23:10So I guess I, I, I agree with you that I'm lost on what the agenda of woke two is. And, uh, luckily I guess in my, to my purview, it's still kind of fringe and not really cool or mainstream or not really what people are coming forward and pushing all that much. So I guess I haven't confronted it in the same way as woke one. Look, I think that's a really fair point. And, and if I'm being completely honest, me neither, I mean, no question about it. Right. Right. But I think we if we're being completely fair, it's like the stupids are brewing. Well, they're out of power right now. Right. I mean, yeah, dude, like there's look, man.
23:46I mean, obviously, there's this there's the DSA kind of wing of the Democratic Party here has the energy behind their back and they're winning. And it looks like they're going to win control of Congress in the midterms. And then there's a big question about what happens next. And like the prospect of a Democratic president with a Democratic Congress, as crazy as that would have sounded a year and a half ago, now seems like perhaps, Rob, perhaps the most likely scenario. And it does it does. I guess the point is that, yes, you're right, Rob. I'm not dealing with it the way we used to. There was a time when like things were very different.
24:24We're talking about like five, six years ago. Things were very, very different where we were worried about censorship and and and not just like ostracized being ostracized, but like like like we were straight up legally second class citizens for a hot minute there. So I'm just saying, like, I just, you know, I don't forget what happened in the 15 years before 2024. And yeah, I think that, like, I'm very concerned about about power going back over to these people. There's this kind of weird dynamic where people are like, think like, oh, Dave, like, oh, but you're saying we should work with the left or something like that.
25:07It's like, hey, man, I talk to leftists who I like who are good on the war. because like, yeah, I have conversations with them about that. But no, that doesn't mean that I support any of this crazy shit happening. I'm very worried about the potential for censorship and central bank digital currencies. And I got to say, man, I think it's quite possible, Rob, that if the Democrats really do retake power, they may go much more hardcore than they did last time. I'm not saying that's a guarantee, but they might come in looking for revenge. I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if they were to say like, you know, try to prosecute Trump and go after people in his administration and try to crack down on on tech censorship and stuff like that.
25:45Crack down, meaning, you know, have them do more of it. That being said, now, I do want to. I want to play some of these clips from this this this event, socialism 2025, excuse me, socialism 2027. I'm sorry, Rob. That's that's my father's socialism conference uh i socialism 2026 which evidently was a an event they have thousands of uh attendants who you know this is their big socialism yearly event now i don't want to be too unfair here rob because i will say full disclosure listen we were members of the libertarian party for quite a while and everybody's got their freaks out there but these guys seem to be a little bit more influential and i i gotta be honest i mean first of all they will if you spend time in the libertarian party nothing will make you feel better about yourself than watching some of these socialism videos.
26:35We got our issues, but it ain't like this. But like, I don't know, Rob, I just, I remember the way it was during the woke years and it wasn't, and I think this is true. If you, in fact, do you remember us talking about this? But one of the things that I think was, was very eyeopening for me during the woke years and the COVID years was I had read a lot about, you know authoritarian regimes already at that point and i had read about this so i knew it like i i intellectually had read this and had known this was true but it was a different thing to live through it i'd always up until then kind of focus in my mind on like the policy the institution the government and the citizenry and what you realize was like which is true like in the mausay-tongue model or the stalin model or any of that um in the nazi model for sure is that it's not just that there's like the authoritarians who rule over you.
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27:31It's like they get your neighbor into it. And they get your neighbor into the fact that they're in it ruling over you with them. You remember the hotlines they would set up to rat people out about not wearing masks outdoors at the beginning of COVID before, you know, all the complaints were against black people and de Blasio had to take it down. He set up a nice tip line, you know, and the way people would get in to like all taking part in the ritualistic humiliation of somebody else, the unpersoning of somebody else. There's just something like very creepy about it. And these type of people, I feel like, had like a front seat in being the little Mao, you know, like youth class that would go around trying to ruin people.
28:20So like, I don't know, just very concerned about this type of person having any influence anywhere. Does that make sense, Rob? Yeah. Core female preference for social cohesion over freedom. Yes. Yeah. Well, that's right. And it's not just the preference. The preference would be one thing, but the willingness to kind of wield authority to squash that freedom. Here, let's play it. There's a couple of clips we had here. We could play these in any particular order. It's going to make the point no matter which one we start with. Let's get into it. We have to give up the fantasy of being fitter than the fascists.
28:58It's not just that it's cringe or strategically bad, though it is. I think it's also politically revealing. Fitness is a measure of relative disposability under capitalism. Our task is not to become less disposable, to become more useful to the ruling order. What we all need to be doing is rejecting disposability in all of its forms. The point is not to beat the fascists at their own game. It is not to lay a better claim on their own territory by being fitter, more eugenic. In fact, the more dysgenic, the better, I think. Revolution is not a contest between optimized and properly prepared bodies.
29:52That idea is fascist in and of itself and erases the history of left struggles around the world.
30:03So that's socialism, Rob. That's what socialism is now. turns out the fight against fascism is also just a fight against
30:17eugenics like i don't know i'm not a fan of eugenics but i'm certainly not a fan of disgenics like what would that even mean is she suggesting that we breed all of the fattest dumbest people together to try to impose dysgenics. I've never like, it is, you got to admit, man, there, there is something weird about leftism that like, if you go far enough, you're just Satan. You know what I mean? Like, is there like, I'm not saying that that means, listen, I recognize there's some good people who are three clicks away from Satan, but isn't it a little bit of a weird bug in leftism that if you just keep taking it a little bit further, all of a sudden you're literally saying that we should like, like, I don't know.
31:04This is something out of, um, you remember, do you ever see toy story? Sorry. I got little kids, but in toy story, there's like the bad kid next door who like burns all his toys. And then they're like little freak things. Like that's what you think humanity should be. We should just like, like, what is this? We're railing against fitness. I mean, I'm sorry. Like I'm not just, you can't just say I'm picking on crazy shit because this type of crazy shit dominated the national conversation for 15 years for 15 years. Like the national conversation was dominated by whether little boys are actually little girls.
31:36So I'm sorry. Like I have a zero tolerance tolerance policy with leftist pushing, pushing this insane shit at this point. Is this what we're coming back to? Cause by the way, I swear to God, it's like Will Chamberlain. It's like, I go, no, you, you dummy, you're going to get the socialist selected. And then you do look back at this and you go, they're actually making the best argument for Trump. Like, Oh, this is what you got lined up on the other side. Jesus. Well, good luck to these people putting together a winning movement that's based on being fat and useless. Yeah. This, this reminds me of when you used to watch, you know, 40 minutes of interruptions of point of order, point of order.
32:13And they just couldn't even get their shit together to have a meeting. It felt like you were watching a Monty Python sketch, but I mean, this is so, I mean, your Satan point is so on where, um, but at the core of this is just entirely giving up and you've so bought into a worldview that you're being oppressed. You think that anything you do to make your life better or to even go out and earn a better income or compete or do anything is someone else taking advantage of you. So the goal should be for everyone to essentially become fat and useless so that no one can utilize your talent or labor. Good luck with that.
32:50I mean, you're taught, you're, you're, you're might as well say, Hey, everyone go be homeless. We got to opt out of this society. It's not orchestrated in a fair way. So everyone take off your clothes, go shit in the street and be homeless and give up because if you do anything at all to be productive, you're contributing to the elites and you're being taken advantage of it's it's the political science equivalent of cutting you're just cutting yourself you're just like oh it's pain and i like to control it and feel like what is this dude just complete self destructive behavior like i'm sorry man it does not matter whether you're like again this is just always when you take it far enough leftism is always a revolt against nature of some sort it's always a revolt against reality.
33:41The reality is that there are objectives, truths, and there are objective preferential states of being. It is objectively preferable to be healthy than to be unhealthy. I mean, I really want to know without this mask on, how ugly is this lady that she doesn't feel a sense of responsibility to get fat? I mean, is she actually that useless without extra weight on that she doesn't feel the need to go eat and become fat and become useless dude this was always one of the things too i gotta say but this is the first time i watched this is one of the first things i thought about but uh um and i remember i remember me and you talking about this all the time during covid and it was so like it was really heartbreaking in some ways because i had you know i had just started a family and so i just didn't i was like so through covid i was like okay guys when are we getting back to normal like we got to get back to normal because fucking we got lives to live here.
34:38And then seeing how many people actually didn't want to and how many people kind of got into it. And you're like, what do you mean? Like you want to live like this? Dude, Rob, you know, because I told you yesterday, like I had the sinus infection, much better today, but I've had the sinus infection. I'm on antibiotics and steroids, which I hate. But so I go into the other day just to go see the doctor to get the prescription. And they were like, oh, you said you have a sinus infection. They're like, would you mind wearing a mask? and you really can't say no to that when you just told them you have a sinus infection.
35:09I'm like, all right, I guess that's kind of reasonable. And so I put on the mask. This is like the first time I've had a mask on since whenever the last time I was somewhere where there was a mask mandate. So by the first time I've had a mask on since 21, maybe at a doctor's appointment at some point. Anyway, I put it on for one second and I was like, oh yeah. Literally, dude, it was, I sat in the waiting room for two minutes with it and then I went in and took it off. But like the two minutes with it was just brutal. You're like, yo, what are you, oh my God, I remember how much I hate this. Remember when they were like Nazis about wearing this on a flight?
35:37Hey, dude, the fact that there are people who are still into the mask. Like, we're not having a political conversation, dude. This is a psychological conversation. Like, these are mentally ill people. Who wants to keep yourself in this state six years later for no reason? Rob, we got the studies that proved these masks didn't work in 21. It's 2026. That is weird. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is CrowdHealth, a company I love who I've been telling you about for many years. Fall is here, and it's time to end the year strong, especially when it comes to your health care.
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37:42Be fat and opt out. You know what's going to happen? You guys are going to be the ones without any jobs or fat at home and miserable. you know or you really think you're going to win on some wealth redistribution game that the government just has endless money and they're going to provide for you so you don't need to have any uh any useful skill sets it's it's interesting in a way right and maybe part of it is because of the kind of like totality of leftism the collectivism of leftism um and and the way that by you know there's something really in many ways libertarianism and leftism are are are distinctly opposite, at least in modern forms, in the sense that essentially our end goal is that politics be something we really never need even talk about.
38:30You know, now I know that's a little bit ironic because me and you talk about politics so much, but it's not really when you think about it, like an abolitionist is going to talk about slavery a lot, but the abolitionist's real goal is that there should be nothing to talk about here. This just shouldn't even be a thing. Whereas like the leftist's goal is that everything ought be political. Your football game ought to be political and your TV and your comedy ought to be political. Like everything has to be part of this project of egalitarian whatever. And because of that, it's like they have to make it this in, you know, this total thing that all of capitalism is is perverted and everything is corrupt.
39:10Because, Rob, like, look, from from me and your point of view, right, we would say that essentially from our point of view, we're basically living in like an 80 percent communist country. right like like from our point of view where um well the money is completely socialist and that's 50 of every transaction so i could like just make an argument that just the federal reserve makes a 50 communist country i mean i'm a little bit overstating it with 50 but almost every single transaction is something for currency almost all of them remove barter from the economy and that's what you've got. So then you add in property taxes and income taxes and the regulatory burden and all this other stuff.
39:54It's like, yeah, we're like a mostly socialist economy. Me and you would certainly say there's all types of things about the system that are unfair, that are rigged in certain companies' favor. Me and you don't think that the big banks make their profits because they're so excellent at what they do or that big pharmaceutical companies or the green energy companies or any of that. They make money for being politically connected for lots of different reasons. So in other words, Rob, me and you also believe that the world is a very unfair place. And there's a lot of corruption out there. But we would never therefore tell you, don't even bother trying.
40:31There's no justice in the world. You can't improve yourself. Everything you're doing must be perfect. And everything the world's doing to you must be wrong. It's like, not dude, bust out 20 pushups, get out there and start looking for a job. What are you good at? Pick up a side hustle, like start grinding. It's not like there's, there is justice to be found in the world. And if you make yourself that much more formidable, if you make yourself that much more skilled, that much more charming, that much more personable, that much more like precise as a thinker, you're going to give yourself an enormously better chance to have a meaningful, happy, successful life.
41:10Why would those like, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's only the perversion of this stuff where you have to go into this, like now self-destructive area where like, like, even if your boss is ripping you off, put a smile on your face and be a great worker, whatever, get better. Why do they have to like, why do they have to be so anti like good? It's so weird. Let's, let's play the other clip. It's more of the same. I'm sorry. You go ahead and then let's play the other club there's also just uh i mean i think he touched upon this but it is anti-nature because if you're advocating hey everyone be fat and ugly it you know what i mean like you can get away from the entire capitalist society whatsoever if you were to put us on a desert island the hot guy is going to try and have sex with the hot girl and this is trying to so defy the laws of nature where it's like not only should you uh become less employable and show up to a job every day and do as little as possible and be physically incapable of doing the job so that they can take less advantage of you.
42:11But a product of that as well is also like being less attractive, which that goes, that goes beyond the markets that kind of just goes to, you know, the root of human nature. Yeah, that's right. That's right. And just like, um, I mean, again, there's also, you know, like it, it reminds me about when that was a trend for a while where the girls would like wear essentially like underwear to the gym and then get mad at guys for looking at them. And you're like, guys, like, I mean, to some degree, like before Ozempic, there was all that fat shaming talk because all the people that were fat wanted it to be more socially acceptable.
42:46And then they all take the Ozempic. And then all the celebrities got Ozempic and that went away real quick. Isn't that interesting? Here, let's play this other one. He loves being beautiful again. Oh yeah. All of a sudden it's not so empowering. Yeah. Here, let's, let's, play the other ones more the same. The political deployment of GOP-1s is fascistic, not because individuals take them, but because the conditions under which they become necessary are shaped by a world fixated on genociding fat people. This is a structural critique that asks what happens when the conditions produced by capitalism, by public health, by the state apparatus, and by anti-Black desire align around a single bodily ideal that leaves little to no room for divergence and punishes any body that does whereas earlier diet drugs were often associated with vanity or addiction gop-1s are positioned as responsible medicine promising relief rather than restraint but to understand why the deployment of gop-1s is fascistic requires turning to france fanon's account of black flesh under colonial surveillance the political deployment of dude there's um there's another real problem that the left has which is that like they're never allowed to tell minorities and women that they're being stupid you know and like don't get me wrong like it's not like i'm you know i'm not suggesting that women and minorities are the only ones who are stupid but like they you know you got to be able to tell them when they're stupid too it's just you ever see like uh you remember the the black debate teams do you ever see that rob that became a thing where they just let these black debate there's like do uh i don't know how to describe they just don't debate they just like preach it's actually pretty hilarious if you want to find one of the videos that really try to fit a black preachy debate team if you can pull up one of those clips it's pretty goddamn funny but like first of all whatever he just said there is just absolute nonsense you're just allowed to like prater on with this absolute and it's a black flesh is the and you're just sitting there the whole time man like what can you say dude you're like a horribly unhealthy person sitting here about how everyone wants to genocide the fat people like no dude being fat will kill you man and and ironically and i'm sure there's a million people who have made this joke already but like man communism really would solve all of your problems here dude like there's nobody nobody ever looked like you in any of the countries who have implemented these policies.
45:14So like, perhaps maybe this is your ultimate hope, but like, I don't know, man, there is just something about to like being, look, I've never been overweight. I'm not trying to like, you know, be shitty to the struggles of being overweight. I know that I'm very well aware that people have different, like, you know, I have a good metabolism or whatever. Part of this is out of my control. It's just like, it's an issue that other people struggle with that I don't. But like when you're like over a hundred pounds overweight, there is something, do you remember Rob? Greg Giraldo had a great joke about this, about, uh, Michael Moore, because maybe if you're going to be the world's most famous critic of the excesses of capitalism, you shouldn't weigh 450 pounds.
45:57But like, there is something about criticizing like the excess of all of it. When you're a hundred pounds overweight, you're like, dude, like this is, I'm sorry. This is a personal discipline issue, not something that society has done wrong to you fair enough yeah i mean i all right i'm gonna start with this firstly i'm not advocating for uh glp ones um uh firstly i'm not a doctor i can't give health recommendations but i think uh they exist on a range that if you're in a risk category of being older or significantly overweight and you're certainly not going to lose the weight they're probably worthwhile and anyone that's taken them just to look a little bit better uh or to be losing, you know, I'm going to say 30 to 40 pounds or less.
46:39It's probably not a worthwhile venture. Um, but he's not just talking about, he's talking about that GLP ones are the outpouring of the fact that society, um, in some regards looks down on people being overweight. And once again, you're up against, first, you're up against nature. And secondly, you know, there is a large cost to everyone who pays their health insurance bill for everyone who decides to be recklessly unhealthy. It's not exactly like your non-healthiness is just a free ride for the rest of us. And also nobody's walking around as adults, bullying fat people. Like, no, I, I, I listen, I've been, I've been heavier than I am now.
47:17I've been thinner than I am now. You don't feel good when you're fat because you know that you're fat and you don't feel good about it. That's in your head. You don't show up to places and everyone makes fun of you for it. You know what I mean? Like maybe amongst comics a little bit or amongst your friends, you might get a ribbing, but like, Like, you know, not, not, not any more than any other topic that, you know what I mean? Like it's in your head of, oh, I don't want to be this way. And society also kind of society, which engages and enjoys excellence. And so, you know, when you're watching an action movie or watching some shredded dude, you're like, you guys are against the concept of like human improvement and excellence.
47:56Yes. It's it, it, it's hard to describe this. This is why I said it's politically the equivalent of cutting.
48:07There's nothing to this other than pure victimology. That's all it is. It's the science of why I'm a victim. Science with a quote around it. It's such an amazing world. It's like don't have sports because that creates a structure in which people want to be better at something. It's literally like everything shouldn't everything that we have in the world should not exist because it pushes people to try and be great at it. And that's anti-socialist, which is that I guess everyone's supposed to be equal. And if you've achieved greatness, then you're taking from someone else. It's like it's like zero correlation to work or effort or, you know, I guess even genetic gifts.
48:48but it's like literally every, everything that we watch in entertainment, every sport, every, everything is because we're interested in watching people who struggled and became great. That's right. That's right. And it's also kind of like bullshit. Like they just claim, you know, the, the idea of it's one of these things where there's, there's kind of these like contradictions in life where you just, you kind of can't escape it. Right. And anytime you're going to say that you want to get rid of hierarchies, which essentially is what egalitarianism is, you just catch yourself in glaring contradictions and performative, you know, kind of like hypocrisies.
49:24Because you, you kind of like, you can't act in life without a hierarchy, like every second of every moment, as I'm saying this sentence to you, I'm choosing to say this sentence rather than saying another sentence. And we've got a couple thoughts in our heads, but we only have 15 minutes left in the show. And so we're like, we're constantly choosing something rather than something else. and even if you're going to say like i don't know if if leftists get control of the government you're like okay well the number one priority is egalitarianism okay in other words you have a hierarchy of priorities and at the top of the priority is that we get rid of hierarchies you know what i mean it's like you find yourself like in a time travel movie you know where you're like wait but this contradicts the last thing if i go back then i never existed and then i'm not here and then i'm not like this it does so the problem is that and they'll catch themselves in these things where it's like you go look dude you can't judge fat people right because like that's just you can't judge someone for living an alternative lifestyle it's like okay well can you judge someone for being really in shape and judging fat people maybe that's their lifestyle okay you're in a contradiction now like they don't you don't believe any of this shit that's what's like that's why the people who preach inclusion are the ones who push cancel culture the people who are worried about worker exploit the people who are worried about worker exploitation support the irs i mean what it's just too it's like it becomes anti-reality the whole thing and so look i will say man and this is part of the reason why i wanted to bring this up i saw a couple people a couple good people one of them i will shout out is ryan grim and i thought about catching ryan Grimm's back in this argument on Twitter, but then I thought that's probably not doing him any favors.
51:13But he, he posted a thing where he goes, you know, democratic socialists are finally getting wins. And now this is what you guys want to do. You know, like basically essentially standing up and going, this is insane, dude. Like, what are you doing? You're going to turn off all normal people with this shit. And then leftists are furious at him. The response that is Twitter, they're angry at him for calling this out. So like, look, I appreciate guys like Ryan Grimm, who will maybe at least like draw a bit of a boundary. I understand that that's a tougher thing inherently for leftists to do than for right wingers to draw a boundary, a border wall, if you will, and go, hey, these clearly mentally ill people don't speak for me.
51:57But I got to say, man, and I've been talking about this for quite a bit, but, you know, There is something about how they've been, there is something I think that's just very dishonest about this democratic socialist movement where they call themselves democratic socialists, but then revert back to like, no, we just want free health care. Like, what are you talking about? It's just like free health care and maybe like a few free supermarkets. That's all we're talking about. But then you see the socialism conference and it's like, well, wait a minute. What the hell is this? Like, first off, the term socialism means something.
52:33It means public ownership of the means of production. You're all called like if I just come out here and call myself, hey, guys, I'm a Democratic fascist and I'm starting the Democratic fascist party. And then you start going, whoa, fascist governments did all this evil shit. And fascism means all this evil shit. And I'm like, dude, fascism just means like whatever. No tax on tips or whatever. You know, just like some random little policy. Is that honest? Is that fair? And then, by the way, at the big fascism conference, they're talking about. So like, are you guys talking about socialism? Are you just talking about health care and some supermarkets?
53:08Are you just talking about as the guy in Michigan, Said says, hey, our tax dollars shouldn't be going to the Middle East. They should be staying here in Michigan. Are you talking about, you know, democratizing the worst place? Or are we talking about a war on healthiness and how obesity and black flesh must not be harmed? if someone could just inform me which one of these wacky things you believe in it would make it a lot easier for me to argue against it and i don't think that's an unreasonable ask all right guys let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show which is prize picks football is finally back and prize picks is bringing out their best offer yet new users who sign up will get 150 lineups if you win your first five dollar lineup that's right if you win your first five lineup, you get$150 in lineups.
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55:12Those are those hierarchical stairs. They are. There's always one right above the other one. It was a capitalist society. they invented stairs to make fat people feel bad. Well, you know, again, the thing about it is, is that, you know, you human beings are, um, by nature we're different, you know, that's the way that's kind of the beauty in the whole thing. We are not equal. We are different. Um, and there, that is kind of uncomfortable, I guess, for some people to acknowledge, but I always loved what Thomas Sowell said was that he, I believe it was Thomas Sowell, said that even if you had, if somehow a socialist could wave a wand, imagine you didn't need the enormous amount of violence that it would take to completely equalize everything, to make sure that everybody had the exact equal amount, every single human being.
56:07Now, of course, this has never been done. It's impossible to be done because by definition, the people who would be implementing the redistribution would have more power than the people who are just hoping to get it. But Anyway, you could wave a magic wand. Everyone has the exact equal amount. Okay, one day later, there's going to be tremendous inequality. One day later, there will be a certain percentage of people who have blown all of their money. There'll be a certain percentage of people who have doubled all of their money. There'll be a certain percentage of people who got up and went to work the next day and a percentage of people who just did not.
56:37Some people were more productive. You know what I'm saying? Literally, inequality will come again. It's like the second you take your finger off the scale that's what it'll be because that's uh you know that's human nature and i will say rob it's it is hard you know it's like one of the things that i think going forward we're gonna have to deal with is that like look in in the first version of wokeness for everybody who wasn't trapped into it for everybody who wasn't like caught up in the spell you pretty early found out that like this isn't really a political debate you weren't really i wasn't really having a political debate with lisa traeger in 2017 you know what i'm saying that's not what it was and in fact you weren't really having a political debate with corinne fisher in 2020 that's not what that was it was not a political debate well i mean you were having a political debate.
57:36She was having an exercise in social ostracism. You know, she was having an exercise, like, like she was doing a thing where it's like a, a social pecking order type thing. And then you were like tearing down the bullshit. It's like, this is so much of woke ism so much of this, this is, this is mental illness. Um, this is a result of having a society where families have broken apart. Kids have been over medicated and they've essentially been become wardens of the state. Just, just being raised by government schools and government colleges. And I'm just saying, Rob, after the years of COVID and the years of wokeism, a lot of these leftist men are still really crazy.
58:27Like they've been sidelined for a while now during this Trump moment. And now Trump has blown it and we're about to hand it back to them. But just to be clear, it's like, yeah, Rob, as you said before, these guys aren't winning anything with this program. And in fact, these guys are only, you know, this existing only helps the right wing cause like this video videos like this being out there. But what these people do end up being are like the shock troops of the democratic establishment. And I'm very concerned about them getting back in there. You know, I think that if the democratic establishment is to get back in there, I got to believe that they're going to realize that they got to plug up this hole of free speech on the internet.
59:14You know, they, and they did go after that very hard last time, very hard. And I wouldn't be surprised if they double and triple those efforts, if they come back in. So I think that's what we're up against and we should be we should be taking notice of that yeah i'm i'm hoping that the uh if the democrats come back in they're not really all that interested in whatever this nonsense is but i guess it remains to be seen and and i and i say that in part because even i mean listen it's funny that the democrats put out a document on why they lost and the front page just wasn't kamala Harris was too stupid to win.
59:49But some of it did reflect on people don't really like being shamed. Some of this stuff does not appeal to everybody. And people did recognize that the Democratic establishment was just getting wealthy and not actually helping people. And I think that this is this is not a cultural movement right now, like eight years ago or whatever it was. I you know, it was kind of shocking to see how many people seem to have been on board with whatever the hell this was and it was weird to i mean you know it happened four years later everyone was uh go woke go broke but in real time we watched comedy central platform essentially a version of this instead of any comedy that we thought was funny and you know two years later comedy central failed or three years later comedy central essentially didn't exist but in real time we're like oh is this actually is this the new grunge music is this what's cool in the world because it was being kind of forced top down i don't really even know all the logistics of how it happened but when you were living it you know it was being portrayed as if this was like the honest cultural movement in temperature of where the country was and when you performed in liberal areas there certainly was a feeling amongst uh the younger people in the crowd that they were really living with these ideals i don't see that happening right now it's just not it just doesn't feel to me like that's where the country is i do think a lot of people are outraged over trump and i do think that there's an economic lie to people of, Hey, uh, socialism is actually going to represent you in terms of wealth redistribution.
1:01:15And every other system is the elites taking your money. But I don't think we're actually looking at, you know, full scale woke nonsense again. I just, I, you know, no, I think you're probably right. I think you're probably right. Look, it crashed and burned so hard that first time, you know, as you're saying it, do you remember, I remember one of the things that was so, uh, um, interesting. Cause like me and you were like, especially in the early days, like we were like coming up in comedy, like very new, younger comics, like climbing the ranks. And it was down at our level of the industry. It'd be, you know, I like lower levels of industry are really kind of supported by the higher levels of industry.
1:01:53So like when you're, if you're, um, whatever it is, like if you're, if you're doing the Fox news show at 3am, like red eye, like I used to do back in the day at 3am on Fox news, the show has a budget and the show has a producer and has all this, but it's because Bill O 'Reilly and Hannity, and there's these big things. And then you have this little bit of a budget at the end of it. But so whatever, it's kind of an artificial market in a way. Like it's not whoever's getting booked. There isn't really about who's driving the ratings. It's just like who the book are like, no one's driving the ratings.
1:02:23This is 3am or whatever. So like at our level of comedy, Rob, do you remember how much they just loved the leftist nerd bullshit? Like, dude, that was all there was like guys like me and Rob would just get passed over for everything. And then they would just love these leftist nerds. Cause they were like, yeah, these guys are going to be big there. And I even liked some of those leftist nerds. Like some of them were funny guys. I've not like even try to trash up or name them or nothing, but like, it's amazing how none of them developed audiences. Like none of them, they were just so swept up on in this thing that they were like, there is actually no market for this, like no market for it.
1:02:58So, so I do kind of agree with you. And I think, um, I, I wouldn't go as far as to say, like, I think this is about to take over again, but I do think it's something worth keeping an eye on. And like, it's also worth, like, it's worth us just not forgetting what happened back there. Like we should be able to walk and chew gum. We should be able to be like, yeah, Donald Trump betrayed his base and totally ruined his presidency and is a disaster. Also, we should not be going back to the catastrophic mistakes of the previous 15 years. I'll also say, I used to say this years ago on the show, but you know, I hate the left cause they infringed on my life more.
1:03:34But if you actually gave me a Christian right wing government of like more of like a 1990s flavor where they're like, Hey, we can't, you know, they want to censor filthy comedy. They want to censor your action movie. They want to censor, remember music and video games and all that stuff. And they want to go fight wars. Then all of a sudden you're going, Oh shit, this is even worse. But then it flips the other way to the lefty nonsense And you go, so a lot of times what's worse is just what's actually in power because they can go full ham on, uh, on their stupidity. And so, you know, and like we said before, and one side feeds the other, you know, and everyone pretends while they're on the sidelines of, Oh no, no, I'm not going to force anything down your throat.
1:04:15I mean, they always pretend like they're libertarians on the sidelines and then you get them pushing an agenda. So it's easy to look at them now and go, no, they would never push this on us. but you know, I don't think AOC is winning a presidency, but that an AOC or a Newsom might, might flirt with this nonsense because it kind of shames people into their agenda. And that if you're questioning them, it's cause you're not nice and it's cause you're you know, you're, you're preaching for the hierarchical structures and whatever other shit you hear about. Speaker 3 0. Tucker Carlson, Thomas Massey, 20, 28.
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