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26:17You know, like essentially you just go, I don't know. Like, we don't know. We don't have to pretend to know for sure. It's it's a much more. Let's just say we would all like to go. It's not race at all. It's culture. And the reason why we'd like to say that is because that's a much more comfortable answer that we'd all rather be the case. I don't know. The point, I think, is that when you radically change the demographics like this, you're going to radically change society. It's a gamble. We're rolling the dice and going, hey, you think we could still be the United States of America like this?

26:56I don't know. We'll see. Why would we take that gamble? Why would we do that? And especially given a little bit of awareness about like what the state of nature is. And when I say the state of nature, I don't mean like the state of nature, literally. I mean what the normal state of man is, what the normal society is. We roll the dice, we come out with the United States of America again. Probably not. Probably not what we get. And also on top of that, I just think to some degree like it's just different, man. And people have the right to have some say in whether things get radically changed or not.

27:35Just for their own reason. You know, it's very hard. Like, I don't know. If there are some non-Japanese people in Japan, you know, there's a minority population in Japan of something that's not Japanese. It's totally reasonable for us to be like, hey, guys, don't be dicks to them. Don't deprive them of their rights. You know, treat them like equal people, you know. But to ask the Japanese people to make their country majority Italian, well, there's no such thing as Japan anymore if they do that. Now, this is obvious with any group of people who are a people like that. America is a little bit different.

28:09But still, you're drastically changing the whole nation. Why should you just get to do that against the will of the people? I just find it so indefensible. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is CrowdHealth, a company I love who I've been telling you about for many years. Fall is here, and it's time to end the year strong, especially when it comes to your health care. What if you could get health care for under$100 a month? You've heard me rave about CrowdHealth, and they've just rolled out something game-changing to help you take control as the year winds down.

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29:59Spread it out, guys. If you want to really assimilate it. Just spread it out a little bit. But I don't know, man. I think it fundamentally changes a society. in a lot of ways, you know, I think there are, um, there, there are advantages. And I think one of the advantages is you, you get a much more high trust society. Um, when, when you it's, it's not as multiracial and multi multi-ethnic, you know, and it's, I don't know, it's just, we've never really been a multiracial society. We've been a biracial society for all of our history and we just rolled the dice on, on doing this. And now we're going to be living through the fallout of it, which by the way is like, maybe that's more of what our focus should be is just like, Hey, okay, well, what do we do from, from here?

30:45But one of the first parts of it is recognizing that as people start to recognize what's happened, because I think people are just starting to kind of take in the severity of this. Um, there are going to be some people who are upset about it and just simply lecturing them like they're Nazis is not, I think helpful. And I think there's an additional problem, which is on a more personal or localized level. And I don't fall into this category. But if this is not what you're into, if you run a business, you can't just hire all whites. You need an HR department. You need to play by the rules of other people.

31:21And you will get shamed on a more localized level for not being more inclusive. So it's not even like you can congregate with like-minded individuals and have what I call freedom of assimilation and go, well. Freedom of association. Yeah. Freedom of association. That's the, that's the word I was looking for and just go, well, I get that the rest of the country decided to go this way and a bunch of liberals are more into this, but that's not what I'm into. You're not allowed to make that decision for yourself. You don't have the freedom to do so. So it's not, it's not even like a, just a national thing.

31:51It will go start a business tomorrow, grow it to a point where it's successful and then try and tell minorities that they're not allowed to work there. Yeah, well, that's right. It's like we don't even have freedom of association. People are kind of like forced into the country against the will of the taxpayer, against the will of the people. And then they don't have freedom of association to even disassociate with those people. Or you could also use the example of like landlords renting to people or all types of different examples like that, Rob. And, you know, it's again, this is this is not the dynamic of.

32:29Of like, hey, like, you know, as you go, like it's OK, it's a group of white people and there's a minority there. And how should we treat that person? We're talking about something totally different than that. And for essentially now, you know, you know, my entire lifetime, let's just say those 65 years since the Civil Rights Act, right, like even the 20 years before I was born, the liberals and the left have been constantly harping on how difficult it is to be a minority. You know how difficult it is to be a minority. And then somehow the expectation, because so much of what has animated them, particularly for the last 20 years, has just been anti-white sentiment.

33:13It's like there is a hatred for white people. OK, you're you're being demonized constantly in academia and media and Hollywood and, you know, political class by the entire left, really. So white people are being demonized. They're also being told how bad it is to be a minority. They also can't kind of help but notice that the only places where all of these massive demographic changes are taking place are where, Rob? all the white countries. We're not talking about having this problem in China or Russia or Japan or anything, partly because those countries won't allow it to happen, but also partly because really this expectation from white people who get so lectured to by the left, there's really not this expectation for any other group of people, which is that number one, we're going to tell you how terrible it is to be a minority.

34:10And number two, we also expect you to voluntarily make yourself a minority in the countries where you're a majority. Now, by the way, a leftist will have nothing but sympathy for a black person in Bed-Stuy who talks about gentrification. They will have nothing but sympathy for anyone else if they were ever displaced in this way against their well. They would have nothing but the expectation amongst white people who of course are uniquely evil. And also we're going to need you to ignore that everyone wants to live in the countries that were built by white people. They are expected to just like embrace becoming a minority themselves.

34:52I'm sorry, but like that is, um, that is an insane request. You know, I don't know. I understand this is an uncomfortable conversation to have, but if we're just being honest about it, man, like that is just, that is craziness. It is not the same thing to like think, oh, we could like oppress a minority of people amongst us, you know, screw those people. They don't have rights. Or even like maybe just like be a dick to those people or discriminate against those people or try to keep those people in one part of town. It's a whole different thing to really think you could exploit a minority, you know, enslave them or genocide them or do something terrible to a minority.

35:33That is a totally different thing than being the majority of a country and wishing to remain that majority, like not wanting mass demographic change. It's just not the same thing at all. It is total consensus in Japan that the place remain Japanese, like total 100 % consensus. Nobody thinks that modern Japan is on the level of Nazi Germany, morally speaking, for that belief. Yet somehow that is the expectation of Americans. And Rob, as you kind of got into before, even worse, this is the expectation of Zionists who do not hold this same standard for Israel. Now that to me is a whole different level of hypocrisy.

36:17And that's why I went at Ben Shapiro this morning on Twitter about this, Rob, like one thing, which by the way, you know, I've always been more of a two state than one state solution guy, although look, it's not my choice. I don't know. Solve it however you want to. One of the things, Rob, that the Zionists have been very well aware of in the Israelis from the very beginning is what that demographics are destiny. Why do you think the Israelis are so into ethnic cleansing? Well, because, dude, if you want to have a democratic state, that's a Jewish state, you got to have like an 80, 20, super duper Jewish super majority.

36:57You know what I mean? Like it's otherwise it doesn't really work. Can't really have elections when it's close. And so, you know, you have to maintain those demographics. Otherwise the whole thing is different. It won't be a Jewish state if it's not majority Jewish people there. So for any of them to come around and say, Oh, we don't know what's the problem. What's your beef with mass demographic change. It really does say something. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's the ultimate in hypocrisy. It's almost incredible that it's coming from a bench appear who's on the right. And just to reiterate what you were saying, the fact that the left, not just, not only do you not have the freedom of association, but they will even shame you if you are flirting with, Hey, do I like this?

37:38Well, you're not being inclusive. You're not being nice. It's like you guys have initiated the change that changes my life and now you're not allowed to criticize whether or not i even like it or have a thought about whether it's a bad idea and then the people on the right who are pro-israel who uh clearly i guess even though they don't live in that country and live for it which is a little bit psychotic but they understand that it's really important to them that they keep their voting base and that they keep one culture within the society um and at the same time over here that they would advocate for anything different and pretend why why would anyone be concerned about this.

38:10Why would anyone care? Yeah, that's, I mean, it's the ultimate in hypocrisy. Speaker 3 00.: Yep. Well, here, let's, let's go to Ben Shapiro segment here and let's, let's take on some of what he's, what he had to say about this. Speaker 3 00.: Our conservative supposed to be upset that people from different ethnic backgrounds enjoy college football, a viral photo of like, I don't know, 30 Brown students from the sands of this weekend's UT Ohio game went viral when a random low level, low party. You just already see just like how much he is just dripping in dishonesty, just dripping in dishonesty.

38:44And, and again, I just find this, look, I don't, I was kind of like trying to explain this to Natalie, uh, how I feel about this before I started. It's like, look, man, I understand. Believe me, because I also come from like, I'm a Jewish kid from park slope. I also come from the same liberal culture that all leftist and liberals, you know, kind of do today. I understand why when I start talking the way I'm talking, I know that there's a percentage of like left leaning viewers who will kind of shut down to this and be like, oh, this is just like Dave's got a little bit of like racism and I'm like, I'm on guys.

39:19I like him on this stuff. But he's just kind of like, I understand. I know because it's very hard. People have developed an allergy for this. I don't even begrudge liberals who have a little bit of an allergy to me, even suggesting that there's a problem with just like more brown faces in this game or something like that. But for like an Israeli racist right winger to do it, Rob, like for you to be trying to shame our American racist right wingers, you know, for, I use this tongue in cheek, these terms, but like, no, you don't get to do that, dude. And so like, I just, as an American, I'm kind of like, I'll stick up for our racist right wingers over you.

39:56But again, I'm just joking. I don't really consider it to be that racist, but like the issue here, nobody's issue is that we have a problem that minorities like football. Like what even are you talking about? Minorities like football, minorities play football. The game is a minority game. What are you talking about, dude? We don't have a problem that like, oh, an Indian guy. And by the way, right, Rob, if you showed a picture that was a sea of white people at a Texas college football game, which is what we've come to think college football might look like, but that was, I used to think that Minnesota wasn't Somalia, but that, you know, that's crazy.

40:32But if, if that, if you showed a sea of white people and there was one Indian person in there and people had a problem with him, then Ben Shapiro, yes, you could accurately say the issue people have here is a minority enjoying a football game. But Rob, that's clearly not what we're talking about here. Right. Am I being, I mean, is this, come on. we're talking about people looking at this picture and then jumping off to, oh my God, there are demographic changes in the country. No one's actually going. We're not allowed to have minorities should not be allowed to attend or enjoy football. That's not, that's not of anyone's concern.

41:07You're, you're looking at the writing on the wall and you're going, oh man, this really is the cut. Listen, white people are going to be a minority in this country. This is going to be different. This is going to make culture and movies and sports and everything feel different. And we don't, what, why, Why are we to assume the only reason anyone would assume this is for the better is if you're already working on some type of kind of like anti-white racist starting ground. Like, yeah, that's what you get. You're the big oppressor. So you deserve to kind of be replaced. But like, that's not everybody's opinion.

41:39I'm like, well, yes, white people are guilty of a lot of oppression. They're also, you know, have created a lot of prosperity and, you know, in many different ways. So anyway, whatever. It's just like it's, you know, there's a Oren McIntyre always shares. There's some quote. I forget whose it is. I apologize to the person. But it's something it's like the simplest quote, but it really is. He said something like he goes so much of arguing with the left is them pretending to not understand concepts, thus making argumentation impossible. You know, like, I don't know. This totally just applies to Ben Shapiro, too.

42:13like it's like it's a you're making the argument impossible because you're pretending that the argument is something else and leftists do this all the time you know like um when you get into and they just go oh so i guess you just don't want minorities to live got it you know and you're okay we have to pretend that's what the argument is about all right let's keep playing the viral when a random low-level local gop candidate said kind of gross things about their skin color after review why football is great i'm gonna run through some stats about ut's demographics Texas Senate candidate Ken Paxton's reaction and why James Tellarico is actually the most racist candidate of them all.

42:48There's a person named Beau French. He's running for railroad commissioner in Texas, and he snapped a picture of UT students who were celebrating their miraculous win over Ohio. So for those who missed the game, basically, Texas was down 20 points in the last quarter, and Archie Manning came back 21 points in the fourth quarter, incredible comeback. And the cameras flashed to the crowd and one part of the university of texas at austin crowd was pretty clearly heavily indian it's a lot of people who have heritage that is not white right that is what is is happening in this photo it looks like some people of hispanic origin some people of indian origin maybe some people of arabic origin just ethnically speaking so beau french tweeted out a picture of this said i heard ut graduation this year looked like this i didn't believe it the problem is now obviously far worse than anyone imagined now a few things about this one these are not people who are there flying the mexican flag or the palestinian flag or protesting for gaza the only evidence we have about the belief system of these people is that they are putting up the the the texas hook 'em horns for a football team in texas well let's just So like, again, right.

44:11Well, two things. Number one. But again, as I said before, that's kind of the point, Ben Shapiro, right? Like, look, man, obviously, if 400 million Indians are going to move here tomorrow and drastically change the United States of America, right? But let's just say they do kind of assimilate to America and they don't vote for more welfare. are and they're not, God forbid, protesting on behalf of the poor Palestinians and they're not burning American flags. They're not waving their foreign flags, but it's just different. I'm also allowed to be against that. I'm also just allowed to be against things drastically changing.

44:52like I don't know you don't it's just so like I look man

45:01Rob first of all by the way I guess maybe what should also be pointed out is like he actually it's not so subtle really once you look for this is why the Zionists are so doomed Rob once you see it it's the toothpaste is out of the tube he subtly throws in one of the things like or imagine imagine they came here they were committing crime and they hated your country I imagine they had a problem with the genocide you guys are funding. First of all, you know how unpopular Israel is? You know how unpopular our funding of Israel is? Most Americans would not think that actually is the worst thing you could do if you came in.

45:36Oh, they came here and started protesting against the taxpayers being fleeced to pay for Israel's genocide. I wouldn't actually have such a big problem with that one. Interesting how you snuck that in is just not even just like they committed a violent crime or they were a bad neighbor or something, but they didn't support Israel, Rob, when they came here. But like, I don't know, dude. Yes, that's right. It's not a picture of any of that. It's just, you know, Texas college football. That's kind of the whole point, Ben. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is prize picks.

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47:20You just download the PrizePix app and use the promo code POTP to get that$150 instantly in lineups if you win your first$5 lineup. PrizePix, run your game. All right, let's get back into the show. Any thoughts, Rob? No, let's continue. All right. About them is that they are Texas football fans. So here's the thing. If you look at this picture, there are three ways to interpret this picture one of them is you just look at it and look at the ethnicities in which case the answer is kind of who cares because i know a lot of great people who have indian heritage i know a lot of people who are awesome who have scottish heritage i know a lot of people who suck who have all these heritages that's the reality of humankind so when i see a bunch of people who are celebrating university of texas winning a football game my positive for a second again this is like it reminds me of debating with alan dershowitz dude You're just like, dude, are you just having your own separate conversation over there, man, that has nothing to do with any of the rest of us?

48:20You know, like imagine your response to my hypothetical, Rob. Hey, should we allow 400 million Indians to come here? And your response was, look, man, I know some Indians who are good people. I know some Indians who are bad people. I know some white people are good people. I know some white people. What? Yeah, no one's arguing that. That would be the question of should we treat the 1 % of the population who are different in a bad way? Well, no. Okay, we shouldn't mistreat them. That's a different question to whether you want to flood and drastically change the racial demographics of a country.

48:52And so I don't care whether you like it. Yeah, I know lots of Indians who I like, too. OK, does that have to do with anything? You know, it sucks to be. Can you pull up that picture for one second?

49:07Are we able to zoom in at all?

49:12All right. You see that guy in the cowboy hat? It just sucks to be that guy in the news right now. He's like, I put on a dirty shirt. I look like I work at a cattle ranch. I did everything I could to blend in. Oh dude. And now I'm in the newspapers. There's too many Brown people here. Like how did I get into this position? Oh, I do. Well, look, dude, it also, by the way, I mean, I know you're, you're being funny, but it also is true that like you can feel for the individuals involved to be like, dude, it's not, it's not anything personal about any one person. Like this is a broad policy, you know, That is the question here.

49:46Things get invoked. Remember, there was a boat of Jewish refugees from the Holocaust who got turned back to Nazi Germany, and then they got slaughtered. It's like, dude, we're not talking about taking a boat full of people into a country of hundreds of millions. You're talking about taking in millions and millions of people. It's just a different conversation. Anyway, let's go back to Shapiro. First thought isn't, oh, my gosh, that is a lot of people with the wrong ethnicities. because I don't think that's a good way to think. All right, let's pause it. I think it's quite a bad way. By the way, nobody is saying those are a bunch of people with the wrong ethnicities.

50:25It's not that any ethnicity or race is right or wrong. It's just like, I don't know. Like if you just took a look at Tokyo and saw it was like 80 % black, it's not that black is the wrong race to be. It's just like, wow, that's different. did the people of Tokyo have any say in this oh what are you telling oh they hate it oh it's their number one issue is that they're against this okay well I do kind of understand why they'd be against that it's not really Tokyo anymore now is it it's a whole different thing like whatever you want to say man like if you made Tokyo 80 percent black it's just it's not the same Tokyo anymore that doesn't mean it's worse or better that doesn't mean you hate black people or hate Japanese people.

51:10And so again, this just isn't, it's not that they're wrong, but it is a little bit jarring. Are we, again, if Ben Shapiro saw Jerusalem look anything other than Jewish, he would notice that Rob, would he not? Would he not know? It's not again, being the wrong ethnicity or the right ethnicity. Well, in his case, he probably would feel that way, but it's like, yeah, I don't know. That would be, that sure would be different. Or it's just so it's so like, I guess part of this here, Rob, too, is right. Because it is. I do. I look at me. I know people say, oh, this is like your Israel obsession or something.

51:49That's why you're focused on this. But no, I'm sorry. This is stunning hypocrisy. And it's also like, look, dude, unlike Iran's nuclear program or the Shiite crescent that once ran through Syria or Hezbollah's control over southern Lebanon. Unlike issues that Ben Shapiro really cares about, immigration, which is what we call this, even though we really mean mass demographic change, is actually a lot of people's number one issue, Rob. This was either number one or number two. Really, the economy is usually one, but it was number one in some polls. This was the animating issue of the Trump presidential campaigns.

52:31This is a major, major issue, especially amongst the conservative right half of America. And so like you've got Ben Shapiro here, this guy who his big issue is his identity as which is 2 % of the country, his loyalty to this foreign government, his support for this most unpopular of wars. And yet he's going to turn around and lecture all of these these Americans who might be concerned about like drastic change happening in their own country. God forbid. I just I don't know. I find this to be appalling. Yes, I mean, it's completely hypocritical. And also, I don't know, he's just kind of subverting the entire issue, which is you would think if you were looking at a picture of Texas A &M, you were seeing mostly white kids.

53:24And here you clearly managed to snap a photo of not that. It's almost like, you know, I don't know if you've got a picture at a country club and everyone's a minority or something, you'd be like, whoa, that I wasn't expecting to see that. And then it does jar to you, oh, I guess, is there that much was that much illegal immigration or has the government created that many policies that are favorable to minorities that they're actually displacing white people? And he's completely sidestepping any of those questions or feelings, which would be legitimate to try and localize it to, hey, I can't believe anyone's reacting to this picture.

53:57Why do you hate minorities and why do you think they shouldn't be at a football game? It's like he's just he's not he's having a different conversation than you are. Intentionally, yes. Yeah, let's play a little bit more. Now, if you were to tell me that University of Texas, just without reference to this picture, imported thousands of students from Saudi Arabia, I'd be like, I'm not sure why we are doing that. Or, by the way, thousands of students from communist China. We're going to return to communist China. I'd say I don't think that that's a great idea. But the problem is far worse than anyone imagined based on a picture of people celebrating University of Texas.

54:33I mean, these are probably second generation kids or kids of immigrants. That's probably who these people are. And the demographic breakdown of University of Texas is pretty diverse. UT admits 89 to 91 % of all in-state undergraduates. Only 7 % of the UT student population is from out-of-state, according to College Factual. Only 4 % is international. Asian students make up about 22 to 26 % of the UT campus. ut does not disaggregate the asian category into south asian which means like pakistani or indian versus east asian which would be like chinese or japanese and realistically speaking there are some 200 to 300 foreign exchange students who come from the middle east to university of texas every year out of some 40 or 50 000 people for a university of texas at austin the population of university of texas at austin is like 30 percent white i think 28 % Hispanic somewhere in that neighborhood.

55:34So both friends got a lot of flack for this. He said, I cheered the win for the team. It was a great game. I weep for the families in Texas who can't get into UT because they prioritize foreigners or Texans. Shame on you for ignoring that fact. Now, again, that's not true. 90 % of in-state undergrads are admitted to University of Texas. Now, again, this is a bit of selection bias here because here is a picture of part of the Texas student section, as you can see, that is a lot of kids from various countries. Many, many, many of those. All right. So let's just pause it here. This is again, Rob, talk about just running away from the issue when it's obvious.

56:11Look, even by the numbers he read, where he was like 30 percent of them were Southeast Asian or no, I'm sorry, not Southeast Asian, but 30 percent of them were Asian or West Asian. You're like, OK. Yeah, that's kind of jarring. I don't know. Sorry, I'm trying to pull up a quick stat here because I believe he's completely wrong on the 90%. But also it's worth knowing that the white demographic of Texas A &M, I think, has fallen by about 20 to 25 % over the last 10 years. And that's because Texas A &M has to admit 90 % from within the state of Texas. That doesn't mean that they're accepting 90%.

56:54I think this is this is Texas. Sorry, Texas University. Texas University has fallen, I believe. I'll have to fact check myself, but we can just go with about 20 percent. And that also his 90 percent number, I believe, is inaccurate. I think it's that the university has to take 90 percent of people from the state of Texas. That doesn't mean that 90 percent of the people from the state of Texas that apply are automatically admitted. Right. And, and also like, listen, I'm sorry, but when you have a guy running for local dog catcher who posts this and it goes super viral and hundreds of millions of people have commented on it, it's like, yeah, dude, it's not about whether he got the technicality right or whether the picture actually should.

57:34It's because yes, the numbers back up the trend, the overall numbers clearly tell a picture and I'm sorry, man, but I don't think I'm wrong to say this, Rob. And I say this, as you know, Rob, as the nation's leading fighter of anti-Semitism. It's not a role that I was that I wanted to to fill, but I'm I'm the only one who actually fights it. I'm not the only one. But anyway, most of the people who claim to be fighting it seem to just be making a lot more of it. But, Rob, I just want you to think about this for a second. And I want you to tell me if I'm being unfair here. OK, if you were going to sit here and essentially what what Ben Shapiro is saying here in different words is that America is a propositional nation.

58:24What he's saying, Rob, is that, look, when it comes to these things, right, we should he's going, well, look, I'm not Ben Shapiro is not making some type of open borders, cultural relativism, like egalitarian type argument here. He's very clear to say, hey, look, man, if this was like, I don't know, a bunch of people coming from communist China or if this was a bunch of people coming from Saudi Arabia or something like that, I wouldn't have a problem with that. But the thing is, right, we shouldn't be judging off the color of their skin. We're not judging like your country isn't a people. Your country is a set of values.

59:01It's a propositional nation. And so if it's Indians coming over who like love Mets baseball and free market capitalism, then they're Americans, man. then they should be here every bit as much as you. Because America isn't a people who has a right to maintain itself as a people. America is an idea. America is, you know, just kind of America is concepts. And so as long as people come in and they get in line with the concepts, then you are a bigot if you just have a problem with their skin, color toner, you just have a problem that they're not your people, then you're a nativist. You're a bigot of some sort.

59:41OK, if you're going to have that view, Rob. Dude, you better not have an ethno state that you're loyal to. Is this unreasonable for me to say you better not have then your own people over here where it's not a propositional nation? Now, is it, Rob? And in fact, a Jew, correct me if I'm wrong here, right? you or a jewish 17 year old in brooklyn or a jew in los angeles have a right to go to israel and become a citizen there if you're of the people you're one of the i mean maybe not anymore rob you've been hanging out with me for too long but like at one point like if you're this is this whole country is a country of the people.

1:00:32We're a Jewish state. Like this is, this is in great. If you're a Jew anywhere, you have a right to come here. This state is about the people and the people cannot change those demographics. It's not a propositional nation. This is a blood and soil nation about this land and these people. Dude, you can't hold that and lecture Americans about how they're a propositional nation. Am I crazy or is that just obviously got to be true. I think that that is obviously true. And, uh, you know, in theory, I'm more in line with Ben Shapiro that I think anyone that wants to move to this country because they want, they believe in freedom and they just want to work hard and live a better life.

1:01:09That is the American spirit and they should be allowed to do so. But sadly, they've introduced so much to the social socialism to the system that I don't think that that's the motivation of most people that are coming here. And I also don't think that that's, uh, I don't think it's fair to impose it on you know the people that actually kind of built up and have lived in this country for longer periods of time i just don't think that that i i prefer it i think it's the better ideal it's kind of more the america i grew up in but i think they introduced too much socialism to the system that it's just not really uh it's not really fair to people who feel otherwise and it's not really in line with reality all right well let's i listen i i get what you're saying.

1:01:48So anyway, we can end with the reveal here on this. But so yes, I did respond to Ben Shapiro. It actually got him. He worked up the courage to respond back to me today on social media. So I said, Rob, I had the same instinct as you, as a lot of people probably did too. So he said to Sean Davis, who had a very good response to this, by the way, I might even read Sean Davis's response here. But Ben Shapiro said, why don't, he said, Sean had written, yes, that's what people are upset about. You are very smart and you definitely figured out the key issue here rather than carpet bombing a helpless straw man, referring to that video that we just played.

1:02:26Which Ben Shapiro said, why don't you explicate in clear terms what people are upset about based on a photo of a very small segment of the UT fan base during the game? to which I replied Rob I said imagine it was some Palestinians who were given the right to return to Israel how would you feel see you got it immediately I thought that was fun just to like again it's it's not that hard like but this is the thing where people go like you you try to say this all the time you know like after 9-11 or after there's a terrorist attack where people go oh my god dude we gotta go they messed with us we're gonna go blow some shit up and I go hey You know that feeling?

1:03:07That's how they feel. Like, you do know the feeling, Ben. You just got to imagine what was happening to Israelis. Imagine Israeli society was being demographically replaced. That's how a lot, believe it or not, look, how crazy is it to say this, Rob? Is this an unreasonable message to say to like our Zionist Jewish friends? Rob, how would you feel? how uh how would let's just to be personal about it rob how would many family members of ours feel how would many jews feel if israel was being demographically replaced and jews were going to become a minority in israel how would they feel about that okay just think about that for a second and and wrap your head around this idea a lot of americans feel the same way about that happening here, man.

1:03:54Like they value their nation at the same way you do. Anyway, so Ben Shapiro responds to me in this point. He said, this is his point, Rob. This is what he responds. He said, because we know generally the belief system of some groups of people, but not others, please explain who the people in that photo are and what they believe. If you can't, you're full of it, which you are. So I wanted to be clear here. Ben Shapiro's response to me was that we can know generally what some groups think, but not all. So unless I specifically know every person in this picture, I can't have a problem with it. Now, of course, Rob, he is clearly saying here, if it was Palestinians in Israel, he's not claiming to need to know the individuals or how they feel.

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1:06:28But yes, there is a problem with demographic changes within the country. So obviously his point is, uh, is once again, just skirting the bigger question and bigger issues. Yes. So I, I responded back to Ben. I said, no, Ben, you don't know that Palestinians are bad by looking at them. That's your feelings getting in the way of facts. And that's great. I said, the point is that Americans don't like the broader policy that replaces the domestic population against their will. This picture is obviously just a little microcosm of the gigantic shift happening in America. After years of demonizing every right-wing immigration hawk, you now come out to lecture Americans about being racist for not supporting this, all while reserving the right to be a racist and restrictionist against demographics that might threaten the country of a foreign nation.

1:07:16I said, get it? And then I said, let's have a conversation. Don't be scared, homie. So, you know, got one more challenge out to it. Anyway, I'll read the last thing that Ben Shapiro said, and we can close the show here. So Ben Shapiro says, ridiculous on its face. One, we have excellent data on what Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank believe about the existence of a Jewish state of Israel. You know this and are being deliberately ignorant. Meanwhile, you have literally no idea who the people are in the UT photo, whether they're even on a visa or third generation immigrants, let alone what they think.

1:07:55Third generation Americans, I think he meant to say, not third generation immigrants. Two, I've been an immigration hawk with regard to illegal immigration for decades, and I have always opposed importation of people who oppose assimilation to the West. Always. Stop lying. Now, I just want to real quickly take on both of these. I said what I did. I did. I responded on Twitter. I said, wait, you have data to suggest that Palestinians don't very much like the state that has militarily occupied them for 60 years. I said, well, that's proof. They're Amalek. And then I said, you're also right. Racism is bad.

1:08:35So listen, to be clear, Ben is saying we have excellent data on how the Palestinians feel about a Jewish state. you want to go ahead and just get into the problems of what yes okay so you have public opinion polls that the palestinians don't like the state that has militarily occupied and slaughtered and genocided them shocker okay um anyway he's saying i don't have any data about who these people are the entire point that i'm making to ben shapiro and this is something you gotta say to a lot of these guys, particularly like neocon Zionist types, dude, if the American people don't wish to have this massive demographic change, they have a right to not wish that.

1:09:21It doesn't matter whether they know the people and know, or I have data on how, but by the way, of course I could find data on what Indians in general think, and I could find issues of things they think that would be incompatible with something that Americans might desire, but none of that really matters. The point is, just as you always say, doesn't Israel have a right to exist as a Jewish state? It doesn't matter if any of the people coming into Israel had lots of great values. You still wouldn't want them coming in. Don't tell me for a second that Ben Shapiro would support Indians or Swedes or Brits coming in and demographically replacing jewish people in israel right rob so no i don't need any of that and then number two what can i even say just on on that first one also imagine if you took everyone in gazi aligned them up at the border and you said hey we're about to we're going to make you an uh an israeli citizen you just have to agree that uh you believe that the state has a right to exist and then you can live in here and you can work how many how many of those how many of those people do you think are saying, yeah, I'm good with that.

1:10:30And then it does Ben Shapiro still hold the same position there. Well, we have previous polling that says that you hated us. So we know what your opinion is. He can't come in. I mean, it's just obviously not true. Yes. And then I will just say to the second one here, I just thought this was so funny too. I have been an immigration hawk with regard to illegal immigration for decades. It's a nice little change of the topic there. We're talking about creating policies. Oh, you don't support people breaking the law. Oh, wow. Well, thanks, Ben Shapiro. Yeah. But so much of the demographic change has been done through legal immigration.

1:11:06Right. So what does that mean? I said my other response I put on Twitter was that that which I don't know if the young people get it. But I said Ben Shapiro believes that demographic replacement should be safe, legal and rare. That's great. But like, Democrats used to say about abortion in the 90s It should be legal But it should only happen legally It's also a tough line Because Biden pardoned people into the country So is that still illegal? I mean, I guess that was a legal mechanism To let them into the country Because that administration Wanted to let people into the country And then what if a Democratic administration Decides, hey, you know what?

1:11:48We want 10 ,000 sort of South Koreans coming into the country. And so they're in the entire American public's against it, but the issue of the visas. So that's legal. But again, Mike, and then again, by the way, what I had said is that Ben Shapiro smeared all the greatest hero right-wingers who were immigration hawks. And it's true. He did because they also weren't war hawks and didn't support Israel. I'm talking Pat Buchanan and Russell Kirk and Ron Paul and all the great ones. Right. But then on top of that, he goes, and I've always opposed the importation of people who oppose assimilation to the West.

1:12:21Again, Rob, but like, why can't the standard just be whether the Americans want them or not, whether they want them here? Again, if I said I'm flooding Israel with people who will assimilate to Israeli values, that wouldn't be good enough for Ben Shapiro, because they'd have to be Jewish. Well, like people here are saying like, no, they have to be American. And again, you're a hypocrite. We don't need two standards. One will do just fine here. This is why he's saying he could look at a picture of Muslims in Israel and already know they're bad, but I can't look at a picture of Indians in Texas and feel the same way.

1:13:00Again, shouldn't say they're bad, but just that like, yo, it should be the choice of the people who live here, whether they want to come. And unlike the Palestinians, this land doesn't actually belong to Indians. Well, the other kind. All right, Rob, we got to wrap up on that. Catch you guys tomorrow. Peace.

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