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28:05And he knew it at the time. And he's so huge, which is so huge, man. And I'm sorry, don't lose your place on that. But this was the whole debate at the time, because at the time this was the whole numbers. It's like, okay, well, if it's 0.03, then who really cares? It's a bad flu. And we go on with life as normal. But if it's 3.0, then we're looking at the black plague and like fucking hundreds of thousands of Americans are going to be dead on the street. And so we have to. And so dude, conflating that is such a huge, you know what I mean? Like it's, it's, you kind of can't overstate like what a big deal that is he knew it and they were smearing us dude i remember sharing studies at the time that were like hey indicating maybe it's lower than that and people would be furious at you over it and this motherfucker knew the whole time and then uh next is you get just the insight in the into the institutional problems so for one apparently he ended up in his position because donald trump liked the way he looked on television and uh everyone kind of thought he was a good tv character and so that's how he became the lord of science was not because he was actually doing the research but because he was good on television next you have he and this gives away the entire thing and people don't understand just how dirty this is um he's getting awards from people that have gotten big grants from the nih and isn't that nice that you can get a huge sum of money from the nih and then turn around and go we're going to give an award to the guy who gave us a ton of money but it's not just the awards that's why all of the institutions were in lockstep with what was coming down it's socialism that there's so much federal money going into the system none of the big institutions or doctors or anything wanted to criticize the system because that's where the actual money's flowing from and then the last piece of just institutional rot that's very apparent is when they first get together with the scientists and fauci knows that this leaked from a lab and he's got the committee and he's like all right well we're going to have to make this look like it's uh like it was out of the wet market and then they you know i think two people left that committee because they were kind of the dissenters but same thing happened with the cdc they got rid of the guy who uh um i think it was over the same lab leak thing that they basically got rid of him also every time they were proving the vaccines when there were dissenters those guys magically decided to resign from their posts but that's the rot is that you get these people at the top of these institutions that are not going hey go perform science and give me an answer they're going this is the conclusion i'm looking for i need it on government paperwork so I can go people, Hey, this is the scientific process of government paperwork.

30:30You got to trust the government paperwork. No, you're exactly right. You're exactly, that's it. And so, well, look, dude, I mean, this is the shit that Rothbard taught me about how you got to analyze this shit. It's like in the same way that like, you know, when it comes to economics, I always say there's, there's Austrian economics and then there's junk economics. It's like, because there's a correct way to view things here and an incorrect way to view things. And so like, like, for example, just off topic on the economic stuff, right? Like this was the basic Misesian idea of what praxeology is, right?

31:00That praxeology is the study of human action. And when humans are acting, you think about that in a different way, right? So like, for example, if you saw, I think Bob Murphy might have used this example. If you threw a rock up in the air and it came down and you caught it in your hand, right? Or then you saw, let's say you saw a plane take off and then you saw a plane land. Like you were just at the airport, you saw it take off and land. Now, if we were scientifically analyzing what just happened with that plane, and I said to you, I came to you with a hypothesis, which is that the pilot didn't like the looks of it.

31:39He changed his mind and he decided to land. That's like a reasonable hypothesis in that case, right? Like that, that maybe he didn't like the looks of the weather and came, but we just saw a plane take off and come back down now. But if I was analyzing the rock and I said to you, looks like the rock didn't like the way things were going up and he decided to come back down. OK, like that would be really goofy in the rock example, but it would be totally scientific in the plane example. And in the same way that like vice versa, if I were to try to describe the plane as if it was a rock, as if gravity just blowed it back, that you'd be like, no, no, no, you don't understand.

32:12That's human action. There's a human being acting here. And so we analyze that in a different way than we would. So in other words, you know, any type of economics that's giving you like a formula, like that's trying to be physics. You're not doing it right, dude. This has nothing to do with science anymore. This is anti-scientific. It's as anti-scientific as if I said the rock decided it didn't want to go up anymore and decided it wanted to come down. We don't think of rocks as making decisions and we don't think of humans as not making decisions. Neither one works. In the same way, sorry, that was just a little off to the side, but for those who it connects with, I think it makes sense.

32:48in the same way Murray Rothbard used to put it like this. I believe what he called it, what you're talking about right now was economic incentive history or like that, that he was saying that that should be a whole different branch of history. And Murray Rothbard basically argued that we like, we have good military history where there'll be like this battle happened and this battle happened and this battle happened. But if you look at real like historians and the work they do on policy, it's almost always like the gaps are filled with just narrative nonsense. Like, dude, and I can't tell you how many times this happens.

33:28This was one of the great insights as a historian that Murray Rothbard had. So I get this all the time when I talk to liberals or left-wingers. And in fact, I think even like, I think Nick Mullen once came at libertarians with this dismissal, which is a pretty popular one you hear on the left. They'll say something like, yeah, Rob, we tried it that way and that didn't work. And that's why we have what we have now. And to some degree, there's like a superficial level of plausibility with this because, yeah, we used to be a much more free market economy and now we're a much more centrally planned economy.

34:05And so, yeah, we used to do it like that and then found out it doesn't work. And now we do it like this. But then Rothbard would point out, hey, is that really how the mechanisms of government work? Is that just right now when you look at the mechanisms of government, is that how it works? The people we all found out and then legislation gets passed. like the example Rothbard would use. He goes, let's say Congress passes a tariff on steel. Okay. Or let's say Trump passed it. Well, you know, it doesn't have to be Congress, the government, maybe it does by executive order, whatever. There's a tariff on steel.

34:40And you were to go, hey, here's my hypothesis on how this happened. The people woke up and they realized that free trade in steel just didn't work. There were these major problems in the buying and selling of steel. This didn't work. And the people realized that a preferable economic system was that Washington, D.C. tax foreign production or foreign imports of steel production. Or is it more likely that special interest from the steel industry lobbied for said policy? Which one's more likely? Every last one of us knows that the second is the actual mechanisms of government. And yet real deal historians and regular people will tell you history as if it all happened the other way.

35:25They will they will fill. So so one of the ways Rothbard does history, it's just really fascinating. So he says and this is the way Rothbard described it even back then. And I believe he was writing this in the 70s. So if you try to picture a brilliant and how much this applies to today. But he goes, look, this is why the term conspiracy theory was developed and used to slander anybody who does real history. Now, he made the point, Rothbard goes, there are kooks out there who do bad conspiracy, but real history is almost always about economic incentives and thus a conspiracy of sorts. And so when you read Rothbard, well, Rob, you know, in 1850, they put in that big railroad.

36:04What was it? Around 1850. So that's the one that left from, yes, the one that went, no, I don't think it was the Pacific. I think it was Chicago. I think it was like a North South railroad before the Pacific. But maybe you're right. Maybe I'm getting that wrong. But people could go like, well, they did that because the economy didn't work in this way. And then they did this. And therefore we realized that we needed centrally planned railroads. And then you read Rothbard and Rothbard goes like, whatever it'll be. It'll be like when Madison was lobbying for the second central bank of the United States of America, his cousin got to underwrite the bonds that were written by the state government and his old business partner got to have the job on the railroad that got to, and then you find the actual connections and you go, oh, well, okay, well, that's actually pretty okay if we're doing real history here it makes a lot more sense to maybe focus on the fact that like you know madison's cousin stood to become worth 50 million dollars if the second bank got past the cousin thing is not a specific detail from history but there was shit like that with madison and the second bank you got to go read rothbard but there's all types of great like nuggets in there but the point is that like my point is that what you're getting here and what you're talking about is real history, really how things work.

37:18And no, it's not the case that just like the mechanisms and the machinery of government all get behind this guy because we all had some view or something like that. It's like, no, follow the money here, man. Like who's making money off of this? And to your point, this stuff is all over the place here. And you see it. It's like, dude, between his emails that have come out now, his diary entries, the picture is just so clear. They never thought it was racist to say that it came from a lab. They never thought it was, you know what I'm saying? Like, no, they knew it probably came from the lab and they knew they were implicated.

37:52They knew that the death rate wasn't this high, but they knew that they would get a lot more power if people believed it was. And also, and we can go through some more if there's others on your list here, but I got to say, dude, because part of what Rothbard is getting at in his way of how to conceive history here. And part of public choice theory or things like that are understanding what? A kind of basic thing. It's the same insight that Mises had with economics, but with politics. What we're looking at here is human action, meaning we're viewing human actors, meaning they work like human beings work.

38:29And me and you, viewer of this show, Rob and Natalie, we know a thing about how humans work because we are humans, right? So we can kind of like understand some of this. And one of the things that's crazy to me, Rob, here is not it's not just the lies. It's not even just like the money complications. I do put this right up there with the with with like, say, the death rate. Fauci as a person, Rob, is smitten with being famous. And that's the thing that really comes through here, which is wild to think about that at this moment at this moment when you're like okay he knows that he funded the lab right we don't know that yet but he knows that there's the biggest like outbreak of this virus and this guy is concerned with the fact that like pretty neat that everyone on tv is talking about me yeah it's incredible it's incredible how drunk on power he is and that um he doesn't seem to be all that concerned with the actual science behind the policies as much as these policies are leading leaving me to be more of a celebrity and to be more in power.

39:38And I mean, it's, it's almost remarkable to try and wrap your head around a villain of that nature who will make choices that while pretending it's the only way that you're going to live, but the choices are actually being influenced by this grants me more power as people are kind of listening to me. And at the same time, when getting in trouble going, I never said that, that wasn't my decision that for me, I, that was, That was from all these agencies. And then he's in his diary going, oh, look, these governors saw me on television. And so they're closing the televisions. I mean, they're closing the schools and they're going to be closing the bars.

40:13And it's just wild to see someone making such bad decisions and then just enjoying the fame that's coming from his horrible decisions. Yo, I mean, he had, if you remember, the famous one that we played a million times on the show is where he goes later. this is two years later he goes i never recommended i never recommended we locked down everything this is him in his diary by the way also who writes a diary now i don't want to insult some people apparently i i i was suspicious of this at first because i was under the who would who would keep a record of incriminating evidence against themselves uh apparently high-ranking government officials uh do this my guess is it's because they want to write books later um and celebrate how great they are.

40:58But I think it's almost like a, it's a very corporate thing that if you get off a call with someone, you might kind of keep a call log. So you got a bit of a record that you can point to. And so I think these guys are, I think it's the opposite where to dodge culpability. They're kind of keeping like an informal record. Yeah. Well, here, I still can't wrap my head around writing a diary that includes incriminating things such as the two percent. But apparently from what I've seen thus far, I was on a, I was on a flight last night after a gig. I got to actually read all these files and sink my teeth in.

41:33But apparently this is like pretty, pretty common practice. I also don't know how Rand got his hands on. Well, I will say, I will say, I think there might be some human dynamic to like, cause I know I've been in this situation before I've been in like, well, let's say, let's say this, like when I have, when I have private communications with people who are like, you know, I, I mean, I talk to people at pretty high level, like media and, and, and even in government at times and politics and stuff like that. I've had the thought before, like, you think maybe some people are listening and I've had talks with people before where I know that that person's been spied on by the feds and I'm talking to them and they were, and you know what, Rob, after about three minutes into a phone call, you completely forget that.

42:18And you just get lost in a phone call. And like, I'm just making the point that like, you do get sloppy. I, you know, I've been miked for on TV gigs where they mic you like a half hour before you're on. And you completely forget that you have a mic on and start talking to people in a very unguarded way, because you're just, I don't know. You've had a lot of time being used to being a human and you're not like, I don't know. You're just not, you, you're not expecting to be guarded. Oh yeah. There's a thing right here. And I'm saying it all. And then I've been there before. I'm getting all wild conversations and shit.

42:48And I'm like, oh, there's some guy in sound just here and all of this. Anyway, this is what Fauci wrote. So I'm saying, I guess maybe when you start journaling, you just start ratting on yourself. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is Prolon. If you want to be your most radiant this summer, check out Prolon's five-day fasting mimicking diet. It makes it easy to target fat loss, support lean muscle, and reset your metabolism. so you look and feel your best all summer long. In just five days, Prolon works at the cellular level to rejuvenate you from the inside out and help you hit your summer goals.

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45:37I know we've been criticizing him recently, but we were hoping that there might be some COVID justice. And for the first time in a couple of years, we see some headway here. And this is a great setup for him coming in to give testimony on Wednesday. And I will state a bold prediction that I hope turns out not to be true, but I'm going to guess that an old fragile man who can't remember a single thing is going to be who shows up, but I'm, I'm, I'm excited to see how much, how much peppy still has in his step and to what extent he wants to combat this new narrative, especially as nobody's profiting off him or off vaccines and he's less protected.

46:13So it will be interesting if, uh, if he actually has to get grilled for, for hours on end and, uh, has some bad moments. Yeah. You know, I, I personally am a believer that it is really important for us to get as many moments like this as we can. And don't get me wrong. This guy should go to jail for the rest of his life. I mean, I almost think it's necessary for our society to heal for him and some others to go to jail over this stuff. Cause the normies need to see, oh, you were blatantly lied to and suckered by government. Yes. And everybody in government needs to be scared that that could happen to them too.

46:48If they go this far, there's gotta be some line that you can't go over. I mean, you know, dude, when you think about the cost of this shit And it's like, dude, first of all, there are costs involved in the COVID tyranny that you cannot put a price on. There were how many old people died alone? How many women gave birth alone with a mask on? How many people spent their last few days isolated from their families? There are things you cannot put a price on. um also rob i mean you could go look into some of the numbers of the absolute collapse in um um like cancer screenings during during the time of the pandemic and there's there's some doctors out there who have tried to put together you know assessments of there's how many people are gonna die the educational gap dude i mean it was you know kids do bounce back in an amazing way but But it, I mean, it threw a major wrench into the childhood of tens of millions of kids in this country alone, let alone the rest of the world.

47:55I know several, I'm sure almost everyone does, kids who fell behind during that time period. Dude, the amount of economic devastation. I mean, you know, again, people do their best to try to measure these things. But there's, at the bare minimum, there's tens of millions of small and mid-sized businesses that have closed their doors permanently. that'll never be open again. Suicides and broken families and the enormous cost of all this shit. And by the way, we're still living through so much of this. I mean, so much of the inflation that we're dealing with is due to the money printing during COVID.

48:33So much of the supply chain issues that we dealt with over the last few years had to do with COVID. And when you look at the young generation of people and they seem kind of crazy to you, also know a huge portion of that is that they dealt, they grew up during COVID. I'm going to mention another more silent one, which is also less quantifiable. But I think if a lot of people listening to this show are honest with themselves, they'll know what I'm talking about. But I remember like three years after COVID sitting at home, watching a movie drinking. And I was like, COVID is over. Like there's no excuse for this.

49:06And I can only speak for myself that like you create some forward momentum in your life and you get things going, you develop good habits. And then the government sends you back, uh, back home with nothing to do and no ability to do the things that you're trying to get done. Or like, you know, you could just kind of been a lazy person. You finally landed a job, you're in an office or in a groove and they take that from you. Or you're a guy who never went to the gym. You're going to the gym every day and you're not allowed to go to the gym. I I'm sure, I mean, you could probably even look at the numbers of, uh, of like health rates in those years or alcoholism and whatnot.

49:38But I know that there's people out there that by now you should have gotten back on your feet but you know i i bet some people i'm not the only one who picked up some bad habits over covid that uh took some took some time to shake off and you lost some momentum in your career yep yeah for sure um yeah tons of people like that no i know i know few people who had like real um like um mental episodes during covet you know it was really bad for for a lot of people. And, you know, the thing is that, again, it's it's like there's something about these years where, like I said, I have a tremendous amount of like respect for the people who were good on this issue, who were there alongside us, who were kind of like fighting against all the tyranny in those days and a special amount of contempt for the people who were pushing the lockdowns the most aggressively.

50:33And but there's almost something about it where you're like, guys we can't just I know there's a lot of crazy shit going on and I know I'm as guilty of anyone who's fallen for the next shiny object especially when the next shiny object is like a disastrous war or an economic collapse or something it's easy but we can't just forget that this happened you know like it's like I think there's something valuable in all of us remembering and then also you know I mean look there's a little bit of a gray area there Rob between like who was good and who was bad because as the thing went on some people started getting good who had been bad a lot And I'm not even getting back to like, I don't know how we parse through exactly where it was acceptable before you started getting good.

51:13Because there's a lot of people who would try to pretend that they were against this whole thing at the time. But I'm sorry, man, like this should be a litmus test for like how you judge your favorite political commentator or what group you're in or who you listen to. Like, dude, this thing was fucking obvious, man. You're telling me that we got to lock down all of society over a virus that we know next to nothing about. You're telling me that, like, for against all like traditional like norms and practices, we have to quarantine the healthy. and and but rob i mean to find out that the guy at the time this is how corrupt this guy was rob that he funded the thing and knew it and lied through his teeth about it and then knew he was lying about the death rate about mask efficiency about all of it and try to hear uh natalie let's play this clip because i mean it really is something here uh there's actually i guess two that i had sent over let's play the first one that i had sent you with the media's coverage of Fauci to try to go back at the time.

52:16Let me see. Was it one of them was a Tom Elliott one, but the other one? Wait, hold on. I'm sorry. Is this the? Yeah. OK, let's play this one. The single most respected voice in the pandemic is Dr. Anthony Fauci, the man who's become known as America's doctor, the nation's top infectious disease expert, Anthony Fauci. You are seen to many as a superhero. Dr. Anthony Fauci, American hero and New York Yankee fan. We've done so much for this country in terms of this crisis, so I really appreciate your insight. Who better to give us answers that we can trust than Dr. Anthony Fauci? The perfect person to answer our questions today.

52:54Joining us now, Dr. Anthony Fauci. Dr. Anthony Fauci, appreciate your candor. Dr. Fauci, appreciate the candor. We appreciate your service to this country. We appreciate your service. Thank you for your service. Thank you for your service. Greatly appreciate your service to America. Thank you for your 37 years of service, I believe, to seven presidents. And thank you for your work over the past year. The great news is you're sticking around in the Biden administration. We are so grateful to you, Dr. Fauci, for everything you do. Thank you so much for everything you do. Thank you very much for everything that you do.

53:23Thanks so much for the work that you do. Thank you very much for the reassurance and as always for all of your public service. Thank you, Dr. Fauci. Thank you for all your guidance this this past year. And it's greatly appreciated. Dr. Fauci, on behalf of all of our viewers here in the U.S. and around the world, thanks very much for doing what you're doing. Thanks very much for joining us. Please thank your entire team as well. We are all grateful. Get your rest because we need you. You are one of the busiest scientists in the country right now. It is an honor to have some of your time to help us understand what is going on.

53:53I know a lot of people have a lot of questions, so we appreciate your time, sir. We need people to continue to have faith in science. So thank you for your time, sir. Thank you for being straight with us. Thank you for being able to come on. You will always have this show as a platform. Sir, whenever you can be here, we'll have you. It's always an honor to have time with you. Thanks for being here. Good enough for you, sir. It's good enough for me and my family. So thank you, Dr. Fauci. Dr. Fauci, thank you for keeping it straight. Thank you for fighting the good fight. I am sincerely appreciative that you are not walking.

54:22All right, all right, all right. We can cut it off. I think we got the point. I forgot about that one. I forgot about Chuck Todd. The moderator of Meet the Press actually went, if it's good enough for you, then it's good enough for me. I will turn my brain off and defer to you now, sir. I mean, dude, look, look, don't ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever allow one of these people ever again to look down their nose at you or the podcaster or the conspiracy theorist or the, I think Candace Owens has gone too far. All of you, Sam, we need institutions with trust. All of you, shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up.

55:00this is what they did. This is what they did when it really mattered. By the way, again, Rob, you know, objective journalism. What a fucking joke, Rob. What a joke. These guys call themselves journalists and they would view, Rob, again, no matter what the situation is, Rob, maybe, maybe, I'll concede this right here, okay? It's vague, so it's not much of a concession, but maybe there is a time where the correct course of action, Rob, is to shut down the world. Okay? But if ever there is a time where that's the right course of action, to shut down the world, and you call yourself a journalist, and someone comes on to argue to you, hey, you know what I think we should do right now is shut down the world.

55:51You would think that you wouldn't take it upon yourself to go, well, my role as a journalist right here is to shut my brain off and not along with this guy. And if we got time at the end, probably try to kiss his ass and tell him how great I think he is. You'd probably go, we're going to be skeptical of this claim. Sir, we're going to have to be a little bit adversarial because that is by objectively speaking, a radical step for us to take right now. You know, I'd look for a little bit more healthy skepticism than this. This is what they did, Rob. Just just ball watch them. Well, when he said to shut down the world, it was I was only making a health decision.

56:31And no, I wasn't taken into account if your business was shut down, what that would do for your health. And also when the decision was made, that wasn't me. It was all the other guys. And I don't know who's telling you that there was a mandate. Yeah, yeah. I mean, what like it's look, dude, there's one of the things and I think one of the best things about COVID, I will say this, and I think we're still living in many ways, we're living in kind of the post-COVID reality is that it, you know, this is what blew up the system, you know, in a lot of ways, like whatever it is, and there's benefits and costs to this, like everything else.

57:12I think the benefits far outweigh the costs. But I remember saying this around 24 during the election where the media would be running certain games that they would try to play. And I remember just being like, yo, dude, this is not going to work anymore after covid. You know, I got in arguments, I got in public arguments with Rob A. Suave and Michael Tracy at the time when I had said that Donald Trump winning again was going to destroy the corporate media. And both of them had argued, and I understand why they made the argument, that because Russiagate, they go, no, look, dude, Donald Trump, they had their biggest ratings when Donald Trump was in.

57:51You know, and I was like, yeah, dude, but they got that off Russiagate. Let them try a Russiagate now. After COVID, no one's buying it anymore, dude. And it's not it's really not anything, nothing, nothing delivered a blow to the legacy media and just institutions across America like COVID. Not the wars, not the reset, not the Great Recession, not, you know, Russiagate. Nothing else did quite what COVID did. It realigned everything because there was nothing to kind of like, and this is the best part of it. There was nothing to wake people up to like, it's not, it's not whether you agree with this policy or disagree with this policy.

58:33It's whether you look at that montage we just played, Rob, and whether you have any illusions still that you were just watching the news. That's really kind of the most important red pill is that you go, oh, what we just watched, like, what do you like? Like the blue pill perception is that that's the news. You know, they may get it right. They may get it wrong, but that's the news. Those are adults in suits and ties. And they're telling you what a senator said about the Pentagon. And but like, this is the news. And then when you look at it now, just with a few years, right, Rob, we're not looking back at the 1940s from the 1980s or something like that.

59:09We're just looking back at the year 2020 from 2026. And what you look at the montage, you go, oh, this is so obvious now that is a coordinated propaganda effort and all of them are on the same team all of them know exactly what we're doing they're not there to interview dr fauci and get the latest information about the virus rob this is wwf they're there to get him over in the same way that if i'm a wrestler and if you're andre the giant and you're fighting hulk holgan your job isn't simply you know it's like like your job is to help get hulk holgan over and take all the energy you used to have as the biggest baddest wrestler and now give it to him like that's clearly what they're doing for him here this is an op this is propaganda and that is that is kind of the essence of why everyone is now getting their all the young people are now getting their information from podcasters and not all these guys you know it's because of what happened here with covet yep and i'm uh i'm looking forward to this i think it's a wednesday showdown to see what comes of it i can't wait i can't wait it's always there's nothing ram paul at his best is when he's grilling fauci in these hearings and i am i am with you rob i think we might be seeing an old we might be seeing a robert muller come wednesday so very interested to see uh um how this ends up going down and of course there is um you know like i said there's something nice about getting the band back together seeing all the anti, you know, COVID restriction people speak up about this.

1:00:40Um, and I hope, I hope they continue to, cause like we, we should never let this go. And, and, you know, you know, if you remember, Rob, there was that piece in a, what was it in time magazine? Maybe it was the Atlantic. I can't remember, but there was that, I think it was the Atlantic actually, but there was the piece about like a COVID, um, um, uh, what's the word I'm looking for? Um, you know, like a, like a get out of jail free card, like a COVID blank, you know, a pardon or something like a blank slate. It's like, Hey, let's all just move on. And we were like, no, no, no, no, no. I don't think we're quite ready to move on.

1:01:12Look, it's not about like always like torturing your uncle or your aunt, more likely your aunt who got it wrong on COVID, but it's like on some national level, like, no, there needs to be accountability for this. And who better to be accountable than the guy who has made the face of the whole thing, who literally said that disagreeing with him was disagreeing with truth and science. All right. Let's let's start with that guy. And yeah, find your legal find the legal way to get around the Biden pardon. Yeah, Rand Paul's put up an argument that it was too broad. I mean, the administration dropped the auto pen stuff.

1:01:52And I got to be honest, whether or not Fauci sits in jail, I don't really care. Let's find him guilty. Let's expose the story. Let's let's let everyone know what exactly happened. Let's let him sit through the public shaming and let the whole world, and there's plenty of individuals who are in, in line with him. I bet Deborah Birx is one of them. That other head of the NIH whose name I can never remember has the mustache also lady. No, not mustache lady. I'm blanking on who you're. 1 0 0 19 0 0 19 whatever that there's other characters who are, who did not receive pardon. So go ahead and prosecute those guys and uh if you really want to cleanse the system do a massive overhaul about how much government money is being spent on this grant system that every institution that had all the science and knowledge that could have debunked this in real time was just in lock step with the government narrative because that's where the money was and let's also investigate uh because ran paul i mean ran paul asked fauci about this and never got a straight answer But people at the NIH can have patents on medicines that they are then that they are then approving and getting payouts for or even patents on bad medicine that they would like to push government policy to implement because they are still making money in the private sector off of that.

1:03:12Fauci claimed he had made like pennies or something, acknowledged that it was true, but wouldn't really give any answers. So no, no, no. He's acknowledged that it was true. And then said, for example, one check was for 14 cents. And you're like, okay, but what about the other ones? Like, yeah, like, all right. But I think the starting point is if the masses were made aware of the fact that all of COVID was a lie from Fauci, then I think you could have enough, enough interest or, and I don't even think it's this party, but you could have people running the next time. I think there's going to be a big lane for running for public privacy.

1:03:49Well, how about this, dude? You know, like, listen, don't get me wrong. This is purely a thought experiment because obviously Donald Trump isn't a great leader who cares about anything other than himself. But like, how about if Donald Trump had just gave an address to the nation of everything we have here? And he goes, listen, guys, this isn't about left or right. We need to understand how this guy didn't just get things wrong. He was lying. And imagine this would make it 10 times more powerful. And I got it wrong, too. and he fooled me and i should not have kept this guy i should not have kept this guy on the job the whole time but he really did lie to us about all of this i'm just saying obviously that had never happened because we're dealing with donald trump well i'll tell you just forget it forget even the levels of government forget the law forget the justice system imagine what good that could do for the country to just understand what just happened to us here uh the reason donald trump won't do that is because then it will raise massive questions about on the iran war if he also has faulty advisors and he's bad at management and realizing that uh he's got bad people in his court giving him bad advice yes but that is the truth there rob now isn't it but yes you're right he probably won't admit that all right look we gotta run thank you guys very much for listening come check us out on the road comic tapesmith.com porch tour.com catch next time peace

1:05:16We'll see you next time.