RFK Jr. Eviscerates Dana Bash

28:35His presidency is already destroyed. His legacy is destroyed. His coalition is destroyed. But this to me was almost just like, if you could have a moment that sums it all up, this is what Donald Trump said. Let's play the clip in response to the Fauci hearing. Well, the only thing you can really think about is the auto pen, because the most powerful thing the president has, they say, is the power of pardon. So he was pardoned by Biden, and I respect that. I know how powerful it is. It's very powerful. They say it's literally the most powerful thing a president has. Now, whether or not I signed my things directly, always, almost everything I signed directly.

29:18You're a witness to many of them. He signed very few. The only thing I know that he signed was Hunter Biden's pardon. But I'm not sure that he signed. He probably didn't sign this one. So I can't tell you what the law is. I've heard that you have to have a lot of proof. You need to have letters. You need to have all sorts of things that the person operating the auto pen has to know exactly what it's all about. He didn't know what it was about because I saw him testify. So maybe there's something on the auto pen. Other than that, the power of pardon is very powerful. So, Rob, what's that? We're going to let him get away with it.

29:59And by the way, you really don't have to read in between the lines too much to hear what Donald Trump just said very, very clearly. like, I need to pardon myself. Well, let's not mess with the power of presidential pardons. Let's just, no, listen, dude, I don't know. It's a little bit of a legal technicality. I mean, can he get away with it? Can he not get away with it? I know he ruined millions of people's lives, but there's just not that much urgency to figure it out and go get it, you know, because we don't want to mess with the power of the presidential pardon. You know, whoever the president pardons, that has to stick.

30:33So let's just keep that precedent going. Gee, I wonder why Donald Trump would want to keep that precedent going. I'm just saying this, just here, prediction. Like I said, I'm not that good at making predictions before. Donald Trump will pardon himself at the end of his presidency. There you go. And this is why he won't, and this is why he won't go after any of the pardons or try to even challenge it. Just try to get a win for the American people. Because whether anyone, Donald Trump doesn't care about anyone except himself. Obviously. This is a little bit like the Epstein thing and that you just have to widen the scope a little bit, which is Donald Trump.

31:06If you're actually interested in going after the deep state, which I will say is a apparatus of corporate and government interest that is not working in the interest of the American people. You can go after Deborah Brooks. You can go after Francis Collins. You can go after the guy from Pfizer, who's the head of the FDA. We can go after Burla. We can figure out what the hell happened with COVID and find people criminally accountable. Unwind the story. and clean up the structures that allowed COVID to take place. You can go after all the government officials that censor the Internet. You can go after people in the Biden administration.

31:36What you're what you're signaling is I do not care. I have no interest in cleaning things up. And so fine, I'll give it to you. Biden got I'm sorry, Fauci got a pardon. If you're interested in this storyline and cleaning up government after the massive failure that was COVID that took away people's rights, businesses and locked us in our homes, you can go clean that up and still let Fauci off the hook. You're not interested in it. And clearly here, what he's signaling directly is, hey, listen, the Biden's changed the game of writing blank and pardons for your family. And I'm going to do that for myself on the way out.

32:14I'm going to do that for my family. We are milking the system. We sold out and we are taking every penny we can out of this government on our way out. And I want to make sure that me and my family can have the same pardon that the Biden's got. And he's very clearly saying it. Yeah, I'm sorry, man. That's just absolutely what's happening. And once again, I mean, I just I love this example because and the reason why I put this as one of those, like if I had to like if I had to like lay down a flag at like a few different moments that were the reason why I lay one down here is because, look, I mean, drain the swamp and lock her up.

32:49were so, this was right at the core of what was so attractive about Donald Trump to people. And here you have a very clear moment where he's got a choice between like, can he have the American people's back or would you rather do the thing that protects you and your family? It's very blatant that that's the choice here. And it's an easy choice for Donald Trump, of course. We respect the auto pen now. Absolutely. It's so crazy. When he needed your vote, Did he ever say that? When he needed you, when he needed your vote, did he ever say, look, we got to respect the auto code. Did he ever say we're going to move on from Fauci?

33:24I mean, like, honestly, at this point, I don't know how you can. Listen, it's just this objective, right? That like if Donald Trump had run on, we're going to let Fauci go. We're going to bury the Epstein files. We're going to launch a couple of wars in Iran because that's the most important thing. Like, you know, it would have lost. Everyone knows that is what it is. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is Quince. I've been talking a lot about these guys lately, and I got to tell you, I really love them. I've bought a bunch of clothes from them, and it's really nice stuff.

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35:40But look, Rob, as everybody remembers - That's the sound of my flight delay. Yeah, well, it might be. Sorry, yeah. But so as everybody remembers, right, in say March of 2020 or April of 2020, there, I mean, those of us who were against the lockdowns were this like tiny little voice, you know, on our little shows. And then the corporate media was like this giant, this was six years ago, man, or was it a little more six and a half year, less than six and a half years ago. You know, this is not that long a period of time. And it was like, I mean, everyone in the world, it seemed like, was focused on the mainstream media, to figure out what's going on.

36:32Everybody had NBC News on to see what the governor was going to say, or what Fauci was going to say, what Trump was going to say. It was all of that. And the mainstream had this narrative, and they were the most aggressive, the most censorious, and the most slanderous of the people who criticize them. It's been crazy to watch as now we come into a situation where the podcast scene is many times bigger than the corporate media and the consensus is that all of this was wrong and all of that stuff. I guess this interview to me, I think to a lot of people, just served as almost a reminder, even for those of us who have really focused quite a bit on this, that it's like, oh yeah.

37:15It's almost like you still don't have enough contempt for these people. And this is just like an amazing almost case study in how state propaganda works, especially state propaganda, because as always is the case, right? This is the very nature of government. The very nature of government is that it's an organization pretending to be something other than it is. It's the mafia pretending to be like a human rights organization. That's the nature of what government is, like this criminal organization that pretends we're here for you. All of their propaganda always has to pretend that. The way the propaganda works is you don't say I'm a state propagandist, you call yourself a journalist or a scientist or something, and you pretend that that's what you do.

38:08But let's just take a look at this because, I mean, the tactics are just unbelievable. And I gotta say, Bobby Kennedy, who I'm not that happy with and I don't think has done that great of a job. I'm waiting for the transformation here in our country where we all of a sudden, remember the big problem was that we led the world in chronic illness. Well, two years later, we lead the world in chronic illness. You know, like none of these problems have even been remotely approaching a solution or even have laid out what that solution might be. But that being said, does a goddamn good job in this interview.

38:42Anything you want to say before or you want to go to the tape? We can go to the tape. All right, let's do it. Virtually everything wrong the last time. So what about now? The principal thing that we need to do is we need to listen to what's happening to doctors on the ground. There are 15 million frontline physicians around the world. They're mainly now connected through the Internet. We can tell on the front lines what's working and what's not. If we had listened to those doctors during the COVID pandemic, we would have saved potentially millions of lives. There were therapeutics out there that were working.

39:20There were doctors that were having no deaths from COVID and treating, in some cases, thousands of patients. And we weren't listening to them. Instead, we were doing the opposite. that we were shutting them down. And then, Dana, the other thing that I would say is that we need to protect our constitutional rights. That that is the primary obligation. What does that mean? Well, during COVID, we completely dismantled our constitutional rights. We began censoring people in violation of the first amendment. But you're saying what not to do. I'm asking what to do. But I but I want to talk about something to do.

39:56That is the number one priority. we protect the Constitution. The Constitution was written. Forgive me, but you're just, you're talking about rights and I'm asking about a potential public health crisis that is. Sorry there, I muted myself because of the rain. I just already right there, right? The idea of like that protecting rights isn't the government doing something. And isn't it remarkable? I mean, we are, however far we've drifted from this, we are a country that was founded by the Declaration of Independence that explicitly says that the role of government is to protect natural God-given rights.

40:36That's the role of government. In fact, it explicitly says that when government goes beyond that, we have a right to overthrow the government. That's the founding of our... We literally, when we celebrate the 250th anniversary, we're celebrating the ratification of that document. This is a crazy concept. He goes, protect constitutional rights. She goes, what does that mean? But I want something we should do. Yeah, that's what you should do. And also, I mean, I think because Bobby actually wasn't good on lockdowns, at least initially, that's not what he went to first. But like the censorship probably isn't.

41:10If you were going like what constitutional rights were violated, I don't think the censorship is even the first one that I would I would name, you know. But anyway. Well, speaking, though, to implementing good health policy, the censorship that took place deleted common sense from existence. And that there were things that, you know, you could sit at home, be a fat drunk in your parents' house because they locked down the world and go, hey, the fact that I need to wear a mask into the restaurant but take it off does not make sense. or you could look at general science and be like, I don't understand why being outdoors around other people is dangerous for my health.

41:52Or you could look at, you know, you could read a page of one thing and go, wait, there's always been natural immunity and I've already gotten sick. Why would I need a vaccine in order to participate in society? And what allowed government to run cover for itself as it implemented policies that made no sense because they wanted to keep us locked down and push a vaccine on us was that they engaged in internet censorship. And so Bobby Kennedy's right here. It's like, if you want to have better, if you want to have better health outcomes, you can use the hive mind of the entire market, including doctors on the front line, who can actually tell you what's working versus a centralized government authority that's been corrupted by big pharma and corporate interest in, you know, spooks like Fauci, who will dictate policy that defy common sense, that if you got one asshole sitting at home going, the emperor is wearing no clothes, this makes no sense.

42:42Everyone can realize, yes, this makes no sense. And so he's actually giving you a good solution to what went so wrong during COVID, which was we sent we censored dissenters. And so we couldn't actually hear opposing perspectives. And that's how you implemented horrible policy. Dude, I remember it was do you I mean, there were things where and I really I'm sorry, I just don't give people excuses for this. Like, I don't know, maybe like for a little bit at the very beginning. But, you know, because it's like, look, I understand if like my seven year old, like all the kids were doing a thing and then she went to do the thing that all the kids were doing, even though it was really stupid.

43:23But you sit down and kind of have a conversation. Look, I understand you got swept up and like what everyone was doing, but you really should have known. But like you're an adult, man. You're a fucking adult. We used to have. I remember like how crazy people got during COVID. Like there were things like, we used to talk about this all the time where, um, when you would do standup shows, um, where, you know, they would have like the weird thing where you couldn't have the full crowd seated and stuff. And then there was, I remember doing, you remember doing shows where there were masks on, like were in place that, which I only did a few.

43:53I, cause after a while I was like, I'm not doing this anymore. I'm not doing this unless everyone can do. And there would be this thing where the rule was, if you guys remember during COVID, do you remember how you used to like you, if you went into a restaurant or this was how it wasn't comedy clubs. You'd have to wear your mask coming in. But then when you sat at the table, you'd take your mask off. You could drink and eat. And then if you had to go to the bathroom, you were supposed to put your mask on when you got up to go to the bathroom. And I would watch as someone got up and forgot to put their mask on and started walking, and people would be like, ooh.

44:24And you're like, guys, this makes no sense. No sense. I literally remember when I was on a plane, and I would take the mask down. And people next to me would kind of be like, eh. then if I ordered a drink, I could take the mask down and sip my drink. They weren't worried. It's like, guys, if you're an adult and you're looking at that, you go, guys, you're being crazy. This obviously makes no sense at all. Can we think about this like logical adults? And then when you said that, these people would smear you in the most vicious way. And then, as you said, try to silence you. It's like, I'm sorry, that's nuts.

45:00That's nuts. That's not following the science that's being a crazy person and giving into propaganda. Hey, listen, there was a health emergency. And so we were just going with the best information that we had at the time. And we had to seize everyone's rights because we didn't know what was actually going on. The lesson is not that we shouldn't seize people's rights because you can get things drastically wrong. And that's why the rights exist. And there's absolutely no reason for them if you can just declare emergency authority when things aren't actually emergency. If you're in a healthy, you know, healthy at the time, healthy groups.

45:32If you were a kid or generally healthy individual, there really was no emergency. And we probably knew that two months in. But, you know, their argument is, listen, if you're upset about this, it was Donald Trump's fault. There's no reason to do a look back. We have actual health problems now. Learning from the mistakes of COVID and everything that went wrong wouldn't help future policy. And so why are we even doing a look back on this or review of the fine work we did of keeping everyone in their homes for two years freaking out and demonizing those that actually believed in a free country where they shouldn't have to take an experimental vaccine because of government force and coercion that that's their talking point 100 dude I don't know if you specifically remember man but I specifically remember this well and I did it I I read it with you on an episode and then I read it with Michael Malice on an episode because me and him used to do a lot of crossover episodes during the pandemic.

46:25And I remember Malice credited this as being one of the things that really turned the way he looked at the pandemic around. And this was in April. Okay. So this was April of 2020, maybe two weeks, three weeks into April. And I remember it was the New York City, NYC.gov, like the New York City government put out the data. If you remember it this time New York was what they were calling the epicenter of COVID. So it was the most cases and the most deaths were coming out of New York. So at this point, it had already been, you know, I don't remember exactly what the number of deaths was, but it was in the thousands.

47:02And they released the data by age. And that changed everything. Literally everything about the way we all viewed the pandemic for the rest of the entire time. Because it was like, I mean, if you could literally, it was, I don't remember the exact numbers. If somebody wants to go back and find it. You can do the research, nyc.gov in April of 2020, the first batch of data on deaths by age that they released. But if I'm going to bring it back, it was like zero through 20 years old, zero deaths. 20 through 40 years old, zero deaths. 40 through 60 years old, two deaths. 60 through 70 years old, 15 deaths.

47:3870 through 80 years old, 300 deaths. And then it was like 80 through 100 years old, 3 ,000 deaths. And the second you saw that, you were like, oh, the survival rate is above 99.9 % for young, healthy people. The death rate for everybody, not severely compromised, either because they're very, very old. By the way, it had nothing to do with age. It was just about health. It's just that being very, very old is correlated with having bad health issues. But I'm just saying, so by the time the vaccines came out, this is April 2020, The vaccines are not out until almost a full year later. At this point now, a full year later, we've been through waves.

48:20Everybody's gotten the thing. Natural immunity has spread. It was so obvious that young, healthy people need not take an experimental mRNA vaccine. This was very obvious and common sense from the beginning without needing any real technical knowledge of, you know, epidemiology or something like that. You know what I mean? It's like you could just look at the very basic numbers and the very basic logic and go, none of this makes sense. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is Superpower. Look, I know a lot of you guys are trying to take your health game to the next level.

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50:50Yeah, let's go back to the CNN clip. that is coming but I do want to let's and one of the mistakes we made in the last time was suppressing those rights so people weren't being heard doctors who were saying you're doing it wrong we're being marginalized and vilified and because because again I really want to move on but yeah you were saying you were part of the problem no I wasn't yeah there was absolute press malpractice. We're allowing your job. Your job is a fierce skepticism toward authority. And you weren't doing that. You were beating up on people who were dissenting. No. Okay. Are you going to, you want to sit here and attack me or do you want to have conversations about public health?

51:39I'm not attacking you. I'm asking questions about how to prevent the next grand moment. That's what I'm trying to do. But I also don't want to use this interview to allow you to say things that aren't entirely true. You're talking about therapeutics fine. It is also factually true that the COVID vaccine worked. The COVID vaccine prevented deaths. There is data upon data upon data. Let's talk about the measles please because this is something that is happening as as we just pause it right here. This is already pause it right here. And this is, again, this is very clearly, this is the difference between a propagandist and a journalist.

52:20Obviously, obviously, Bobby is correct about this. Now, you don't have to agree with Bobby Kennedy about everything, but he is absolutely, undeniably correct that if somebody comes from the government and says, you know, this isn't somebody coming from the government and saying, we think we ought to raise taxes by 3%. This is somebody coming from the government and going, we think we need to shut down the economy. We think we need to suspend the Bill of Rights. We need to suspend freedom and institute, in the name of medicine, totalitarianism. Your job as a journalist is to be skeptical of that.

52:56Sorry. If your position isn't skepticism on that, then there is absolutely no role for journalism, period. And to say that your job here is to now carry water for the regime and attack anybody with skepticism for them who thinks maybe the government overreached and maybe who takes the radical position of we should protect constitutional rights. Think about the skepticism that you get for saying we should protect constitutional rights versus the skepticism for saying we should abolish them all. It tells you everything you need to know about the corporate media right there. But Rob, I also got to say, simply asserting that someone else is lying and that the vaccine is perfect, now let's move on, is not journalism.

53:38You are taking a position in a debate and then refusing to debate it. You're saying the guy's wrong, but now let's move on. The COVID vaccines worked. That's a fact. What the hell does worked mean? Well, by the way, again, worked is a kind of like, there's a thing they got here with the vaccines, right, Rob? And this was very frustrating, is that they, see, worked is vague. My marriage worked. Our last comedy show worked. Like, what do you mean by that? You know what I mean? Like, there's lots of different ways to measure this. You started by telling everybody that if they put this thing in their body, which they're unable to take out of their body, that you could not get the virus or transmit it.

54:21That's what you sold the virus on. You, Dana Bash, you sold the virus on that. That was a lie. It was not wrong. It was a lie. There was no evidence to suggest in any of the clinical trials that if you got this vaccine, you could not get or transmit COVID. Absolutely no evidence. In fact, they didn't even test transmission in the clinical trials. OK, this is just not. It was a lie. They got people to put something into their body that they can't take out based on a lie. And then they move the goalpost to that, to going, it cut down on severe hospitalization or death. Something very unfalsifiable, in fact, Rob.

55:03And then they can just say, worked, and move on. And it's disgusting. Yeah, well, the style of this interview is, hey, sir, I brought you on, Tascott, you got your questions, and this isn't going the right way, so I'd like to pivot now, and this is not what I want to talk about. with the bitchy undertone of pretending like you're the professional and you're being the nice one and they're the one attacking you by just actually giving pushback and actually being right. And she can't handle that because, you know, she doesn't want to be exploring this topic, which is CNN engaging in propaganda and or whatever network this is and just being wrong for years on end.

55:41And so she instantly goes, well, I this is not what I want to talk about. so let's pivot to where you're messing up. Hey, let's not, I don't want to relitigate this because I can't possibly win this conversation. And this is about making you look bad, so I'm going to pivot here. Yeah, and it's, I mean, look, it's just, again, it's infuriating because it's like, as we always talk about, like, real people's lives were ruined over this shit. And even for people who don't, like, look, I brought up the example quite a bit that I got a family friend of mine who was a, he was in college, he's a kid of one of my mom's friends, and he was in college in grad school when all the thing happened, right?

56:16And so he's in this graduate program, this Ivy League graduate school. And they, so he had gotten, they made him get the vax. They made him get double vax, the two initial doses of the vax because they were going to kick him out. He had one year left in his program. They're going to kick him out of school if he doesn't get the vaccine. So he's like, fuck now. Again, the kid's in his 20s. He's perfectly healthy. He's an athlete. There's just absolutely no reason why he needed to get this thing, right? So he gets the two doses. A few months later, I forget what it was, five, six months later, he gets COVID.

56:48Because that's what happens when you get the vaccine. You still get it. So he gets COVID. The next month, the booster came out, and they mandated the booster for his school. Now, I'm sorry, but you tell me, you show me one scientist in the world, me as a non-expert comedian, I'll debate any scientist in the world who wants to argue that a healthy kid in his 20s who got two doses of the vaccine and then a month earlier had gotten the germ again, was doing nothing but taking medical risk by getting that vaccine. Absolutely nothing. I'm sorry. It is fucking criminal for medical professionals to tell someone to do something that is nothing but a medical risk to them.

57:28Absolutely nothing. You should do life in jail for doing that. Risk a young 20-something-year-old's health? You fucking crazy. And then you would smear those of us who none of us ever said that an old person who's never had COVID shouldn't take the shot. Go take it if you want to. Don't you sit here and tell me that a healthy 20-year-old who just had has better immunity, but according to every study, has better immunity than the kid who got the shot last month. He got the virus last month. Just insane. Can Dana Bash defend that? No, no one can. There's not a scientists in the world who can. Anyway, let's keep playing.

58:11Protected children. I think that what I have talked to scientists and doctors about. Can you look, can you show me one study? Yes, I can. It shows that I can. Children were protected by the COVID vaccine. I can tell you that there are more good than harm to children. Can you show me one study that shows that? I can tell you that when it comes to the vaccine, there have been studies that show that because of vaccine disinformation, disinformation, there could have been 100 to 200 ,000 lives in the U.S. saved because people didn't get the vaccine. I'm not saying that it is. Just pause it for a second.

58:51The study that she's referring to actually said 250 ,000, and the study's complete fucking bullshit. Jay Bhattacharya and Rav did a great podcast on it. I have to look to find it, but it's complete bullshit. It's just complete bullshit. Essentially, what they did is they took the number of, they tried to take the death rate from before the vaccine and then say the death rate after the vaccine and then say if we had gotten, but there were all types of just horrible factors in there. One of the things was that COVID only really killed very old, very sick people, and something like 99 % of them got vaccinated.

59:32Really old, really sick people, like all got vaccinated. And the only ones who didn't were because like their doctor were like, they're too sick to take a vaccine. We're worried that the illness they get from the vaccine might actually kill them. So we can't give them the vaccine. So in other words, when they would sit there and say, look, vaccine compliance is at 72 % or whatever, but we got to get it up to like 86%. The major problem that they weren't looking at was that you're not going to actually save a lot of lives if you're just vaccinating all of the 30 year olds who haven't gotten it.

1:00:03It doesn't matter, they're not going to die from the thing anyway. The only way you're really going to save numbers of lives is if you vaccinate the very vulnerable people theoretically, if it even helps them at all, which is not very clear that after they've had COVID, it was even necessary for them to do it. But regardless, the point is that the study was complete bullshit. There actually weren't a lot more lives to be saved by vaccine people. But anyway, let's go back to this thing. Bobbi asked her a specific question. Obviously, she's got the answer to it is no. She doesn't have a study that says this was beneficial for children because such a study does not exist.

1:00:36Now, let's keep playing.

1:00:41When it comes to the vaccine, there have been studies that show that because of vaccine disinformation, there could have been 100 to 200 ,000 lives in the U.S. saved. But because people didn't get the vaccine, that's why. I'm not saying that it entirely... You are saying nonsense. You are saying something that you cannot show me. A single study that says that. I am not saying nonsense. You are talking what somebody told you. Excuse me. Cite me the study. What study? No, what studies are you talking about? You're talking about studies that actually don't exist. I want to talk about... Cite me the study that you're talking about.

1:01:20I am not here to defend. You say you're saying studies. Cite me the study. This is not productive. I am not here to defend all of her. Let me finish. You're talking nonsense. You can't support it. Pause it, please. You know, Rob, this is not productive. That's a great thing to say when you're just called completely on your bullshit. Oh, first of all, she doesn't even remember the study that she's referring to. She doesn't even remember the study. She didn't even get the numbers right. She's just invoking it. It literally is exactly what Bobby's saying. someone told you this and you're repeating it but you can't in any listen in any debate no matter what it is if you invoke something and then can't name it you if i go it was reported as this and then you go what's your source on that and i go look you're making up sources you go no no you just made a claim what's your source on that you know and i got eyes this isn't productive

1:02:18it's not productive for you I gotta say I'm finding it very productive personally but that's good that that's your opinion all right you always play a little more call you on there you're telling me I'm arguing okay do you want to talk about you want to talk about assertions that you can't support I'll get there in a second let me just say for the record that I am not saying that the entire way that the COVID reaction was accurate. It was a scary time and people made mistakes. Absolutely nothing did. You were scaring people. Why are you saying that? Because that was the job of CNN. Okay. Was to put the chyrons up about how many people are dying.

1:02:56We were trying to be... We weren't listening. Stop. Stop. No, no, no. Don't mention that. Don't mention that. By the way, when did they stop running that number of deaths? I can't remember exactly. Oh, yeah, it was as soon as Joe Biden got elected. Soon as Joe Biden got elected, they stopped doing it. I mean, dude, they were trying to scare the crap out of people. One of the weirdest things about COVID was when good news would come out, or like someone would say, we should be optimistic about this, and they'd freak out about it. They literally, everybody who was there for the time knows this was their business.

1:03:31And good for Bobby for saying it to her face. I do remember when they stopped reporting infections, and that was after everyone had been vaccinated because they didn't want people to see the numbers. And then I was in the Omicron. Yeah. And then I also remember when they went from please go get tested and it's covered by insurance to we don't want to test you. Yeah, no, that's right, because they didn't all of a sudden it was really and this is what happened, right, is that it was really they when they wanted there was the lockdown regime and then it went into the vaccine regime. right? So first they were locking everyone down, then they were trying to get everyone vaccinated.

1:04:05When they were locking everyone down, they were trying to scare everyone with how high the death toll and how high the infection rate was. But once they had gotten so much of the population vaccinated, the death toll was higher and the infection rate was higher. So they didn't want to put those numbers out because now we're in the vaccine regime and that makes it look pretty bad, like a year into the vaccine. You know, if you have a disease and then you have a cure, and then a year later, the disease is worse. You do bring that cure into question. You know, a year later, a lot of people have taken the cure and the disease is worse.

1:04:39That's typically not how it's supposed to go. I know this is, I'm no scientist here, but you come out with the cure, you expect the rate of the illness to go down. I think it's reasonable. All right, I gotta get on this one minute. Here, I'll play one more clip and then we'll wrap up. RobbieTheFire, PorchTour.com. Go see him on the road, people. Well, let's go back to the clip and I'll take us home.

1:05:05To the leaders in this country, including the president who had a daily press conference explaining what was going on and trying to listen. I want to talk to me. Actually, were you reading the measles? Measles cases in the U.S. just reached a 35 year high. The second record-breaking year in a row, 93 % of these cases are among the unvaccinated. The outbreak is happening on your watch. And even before becoming HHS secretary for years, you have been one of the leading voices questioning the efficacy of vaccines. Do you accept some responsibility for this measles outbreak? Absolutely not. First of all, this is an international outbreak.

1:05:51so okay let's uh you know let's just leave it there country in the world because there's a look there's a bunch of other great clips from this i encourage people to go watch the whole thing but i'll i'll leave it on that because look let's there's something interesting about this okay so all the stuff that we were just saying here i don't really know how anyone can deny this about covet at this point right like can you deny when i was telling you about that 20 year old family friend does anyone sit here or he's 25 or something does anyone sit here and go no no no no, no, even a month after getting the virus, he should have taken a booster, right?

1:06:22No one actually can argue with that. Nobody can actually argue that it made sense for the guy next to me on the plane to freak out when my mask fell below my nose, but then not freak out when I grabbed a can of soda and drank it next to him. No one can argue that that wasn't irrational, right? Like, obviously, that was rational. And so if she's, let's just say, we'll start from the point, because I've always said to you guys, I'm fairly agnostic on a lot of this stuff. I've seen Bobby be very sloppy with some of the arguments he makes before. I don't know that he's right about some of the things he says about the MMR vaccine or any of this other stuff.

1:07:02Let's assume Dana Bash's worldview is completely correct, but grant me the point, which is a pretty easy point to grant, as I was saying before, that the 25-year-old healthy guy didn't need a third vaccine after he had just gotten the virus, right? Let's say the MMR vaccine has nothing to do with autism. There is absolutely no correlation, or excuse me, there is a correlation, but there's no causation there and whatever, you know, and it's great and it prevents measles and there's this outbreak happening because people aren't getting the vaccine, right? Like even Bobby points out, these are international numbers.

1:07:34It's not on him. Her point is ridiculous. Let's say it wasn't. Let's say her point wasn't ridiculous. Let's say the outbreak was all in the United States of America, it was due to vaccine hesitancy. And so now she's going to sit here and ask Bobby, do you hold any responsibility for this? I mean, this is happening on your watch, right? Do you have any responsibility for this? Hey, Dana, do you have any responsibility for this? Do you? Do you not? All of us, I mean, look, there was a small group of people who didn't believe in vaccines pre-COVID. None of the rest of us were like that. The fact is that you guys lied through your fucking teeth about a thing that you called a vaccine, which is really debatable whether it should be called a vaccine at all or not.

1:08:16It's not a vaccine in the traditional sense. So you lied through your teeth about that and forced tens of millions of people to get the thing when they didn't need it. It didn't work. It made a lot of them sick, and it resulted in long-term injuries for many others. Are you responsible for vaccine hesitancy at all? do you think that may not make people go, well, if they lied about that one, how do I know they're not lying about all the other ones? So even by your own, if you're right about all of this, it's still more your fault than anyone else's. That's where we could wrap up for today. Thank you guys very much for listening.

1:08:49Do make sure to go see Rob on the road, porch tour.com and come see me and Rob together on the road, comicdavesmith.com. Catch you guys next time. Peace.

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