The Delusional War Hawks

29:54They're just literally they're literally like they're they're in effect Israeli spies. There is absolutely no difference between them. And if they actually were like, you know, working for Mossad and were given fake names and everything like that. But they've been activated. They're doing everything they can to break up this deal. We are going to try to defend the administration, obviously, Rob, as a couple of because. Well, what? Because we're unlike Ben Shapiro, we have some loyalty to Donald Trump. I trust him. Okay. He's the most courageous president in modern history and we should trust the plan.

30:29So anyway, let's, uh, let's check in with Ben Shapiro here. J.D. Vance appears on Megan Kelly's podcast. Remember, as we'll get to Megan Kelly is a person who has said that the Israelis manipulated the administration into war, who has laughed along to the proposition that the Republican party is a bunch of Israel loving pedophiles. This is where the vice president chose to retail the argument. It wasn't already. It's just unbelievable to me. And I'm sorry, but it's still just I know I know that the last couple years have shaken up the conservative movement. And obviously the attitudes and awareness about Israel and the dynamics between the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and the dynamics between, you know, the U.S.-Israeli relationship and all these things have just like exploded.

31:18it. But just think about the fact here that Ben Shapiro and really just like kind of zoom out, catch the vibes of all this, Rob. Ben Shapiro, Mr. Facts Don't Care About Your Feelings, the guy who'll go into a college campus and I'm going to say the thing that makes everybody's feelings hurt. But you know what? You can't argue with the merits of it. He now has morphed into this character who does this like like he might as well be like a like a soccer mom with an apron on, like fanning herself going, oh, my. Oh, my. Now, first of all, J.D. Vance sat down with Megyn Kelly. It's not even he's not doing this this routine about Nick Fuentes.

32:02She sat down with Megyn Kelly. You mean staple of American conservatism, Inc. Megyn Kelly. By the way, Rob, just how crazy all of this is. This is on the level. Maybe there's a little bit more time but this is me in 10 years going, let's say I wanted to trash someone, somebody I don't like, whoever it was. And I go, they recently sat down with Joe Rogan. Who would ever? Oh yeah, that's right. I would. Oh yeah, by the way, Rob, Megyn Kelly like launched Ben Shapiro's career. It was a huge, huge part of Ben Shapiro's early career was that he was a regular guest on the Megyn Kelly files or whatever her show on Fox News was.

32:55It was like the biggest or second biggest Fox News show at the time. And Ben Shapiro was a regular guest on it. And you just get millions and millions of views, millions of hits on his things. So he's like, but like even just starting this, that Megyn Kelly is somehow outside of the bounds of who you can have a conversation with. And then the evidence that he summons is that Megyn Kelly, who has said that Israel tricked us into the war, as if that's some crazy fringe. But that is the mainstream accepted position on this. I mean, what do we – Rob, if you just read just the New York Times piece on the start of the war, you're just arguing semantics at this point if you have a problem.

33:41like, okay, yeah, they persuaded Donald Trump that it would go this way if they did it. There was no reason to suspect it would go that way, and it didn't. And then his second piece of it, like this is already before he's even gotten into anything. He's appalled that the vice president is appearing with Megyn Kelly, of all people. And his second piece that he summons is that she laughed at a joke that someone made. That's what he's down to. The anti-woke facts don't care about your feelings guy is mad that she chuckled when somebody made a joke. Let's continue. Yeah. Yeah. President says that actually the only reason that people would oppose the deal is because they want endless conflict.

34:30Well, let's hear what he has to say. I think that fundamentally, if you look at what they're proposing, they're proposing an endless conflict. They want this to go on until every bomb has been dropped or until every Iranian is dead. That is not what the president of the United States wants. What he said is, I said about this to end their nuclear program, to eliminate their ability to threaten their neighbors and project power, and to fundamentally make sure that no future child would have to deal with a terrorist regime with an atomic bomb. That's why the president set out to do this. He feels, and he's right, that he's accomplished that goal.

35:13And now we can get to the negotiation to see what are the other benefits that we can get from this? And frankly, what are the benefits the Iranians could get from this if they behave? I just don't think that the people who are criticizing this, one, One, they're not actually dealing with the reality of what's in it. And number two, they don't have an alternative. If your alternative is just to drop bombs without any clear goal or any clear American interest implicated, then you're not making wise decisions on behalf of the American people. All right. So let's pause it right there. Rob, let's pause it here and let's let's try our best to give J.D.

35:50Vance some credit. But as I said to you, Rob, I think, in fact, we both independently came up with like a similar analogy about, you know, the guy who's robbing the bank and he's killed a few people already. But you're still negotiating with him because he's still got more hostages. And, you know, you know, almost if you could picture like one of those cop shows, if you had like a serial killer who killed a whole bunch of girls or something like that, and you're trying to negotiate with him about just giving you the location of the remains of the people he killed and you're negotiating whatever you can.

36:27Like we can make some condition a little more comfortable for you in prison if you just get, you know, like you're already way past the point of like, look, obviously you're an evil person. Obviously you're doing 75 life sentences. Obviously, you know, but hey, it would still be a really great thing to do to give the location of the remains so they can have a funeral or whatever. It's like that. Kind of like that is how I feel about this administration at this point. it is great despite everything else that they're trying to get this deal done and that J.D. Vance is trying to sell it and I do think Rob that right there is about as good as you can do if you're J.D.

37:03Vance the advantage MAGA and this is why we have such a great deal here and all you got to do is vote for Thomas Massey for president every single last one of you is that we can do this in a much more effective way than J.D. Vance can because we don't have to be tied to all his bullshit it. So we don't have to pretend that this was always about nuclear or something like that. It's like, no, no, no. This was stupid. It never should have been launched. And unfortunately, our idiot president listened to people like Ben Shapiro and Mark Levin. It's great, Rob. It actually, we don't even have to pretend this isn't true.

37:38It helps our case to just admit this because now we can live in reality. We listened to you guys. We launched a stupid war. We lost. We are in trouble. We are now desperate to get the war to end. That's the case. But what J.D. Vance is, which I think you'd agree, Rob, what he is circling in on here, which is very important, is what is your alternative? And that is, even if you notice there, when Ben Shapiro characterized what he said, he misrepresented it, then he goes to the clip. He didn't say anyone who disagrees with this could only disagree with this because they want forever war. He said, if you're arguing we shouldn't make a deal, effectively what you're arguing for is forever war because what else, they're not going to give in.

38:24And so what else happens other than forever war if they won't give in? We got to fight him. That's why he made the point. Till every last Iranian's dead, what do you want to do here? That's what it's going to take to end this thing. And so that's the challenge here. What is your alternative? All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is Hexclad. I've been telling you about Hexclad for a while. If you want to level up your kitchen game, you got to check out their stuff. And now introducing Hexclad's barbecue collection. Hexclad is bringing its hybrid technology outdoors with products specifically designed to make grilling easier, especially when you're cooking foods that normally don't cooperate on a traditional grill.

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40:24When you got J.D. Vance and Donald Trump going, Hey guys, we tried it and we don't have a path. We're all for this war. We've been selling it for two full months. We started it. We engaged in it. We've been telling everyone we're winning. We've been drumming up support. We have tried this and we're here to tell you we do not have a pathway to victory. We can only make this worse. Do you guys have any ideas for us? Because we're all for war just four days ago. We were selling this, the American people, we are down for it. We just don't actually have a way to win it. And now you got to have Ben Shapiro and others.

40:58We're going to see the lunacy that he pitches of there actually is a pathway to victory, but it's like, how do you contend with Donald Trump and JD Vance letting you know, we have the military intelligence. We wanted to do this. We love the war. And I'm, we're letting you know that there's no pathway to victory. And now you got other people saying, no, they're actually, which it's a pretty tough way. It's a pretty tough argument. You're trying to pretend that like the Donald Trump and JD Vance administration just decided they don't like war that you could win this and they don't want to do it it's such a good point rob i mean the fact you got donald trump okay donald trump put all of his chips in on his entire legacy his entire presidency on this war he bet it all he bet the whole political house on this war he put his whole nutsack on the table with a guy with a big spike bat stand the mayor like loser gets smashed.

41:54He went all in on this war. If there were any way, and as you can see already, it's costing him dearly in order to have to leave with nothing to show for this. In order for it, he would do anything he could if there were a path to just bomb some victory out of this. And it's ridiculous to think he wouldn't. And this is one of the things that's so, So, well, look, I'll say it like this, right? There's, this is why telling the truth is an advantage. And this is why we made this wonderful deal that we did with MAGA. It's why they needed us to tag in. We specialize. Listen, man, they need someone to take down the Israel lobby.

42:38And that's what we specialize in, Rob. We've been, you know, practicing, cutting our teeth for years here. So, but part of the reason we're good at this is because we're guided by the truth. and so because we're guided by the truth we've been trashing Donald Trump relentlessly for the last year and so we're not tied to any of this stuff and so we can just tell the truth like yeah we lost the war we got killed we can't prevent them from closing the Strait of Hormuz and touching the region and this is too much they can you know put up devastation if they want to anyway um so the thing is that i i noticed this with the war in afghanistan right and and you know there used to be jordan peterson back before his tragic kind of uh collapse i'm talking about him joining the daily wire then he also had some health issues but back uh um he used to say this thing i don't know if you ever heard it rob where he talked about like uh when you're lying it's like grabbing reality and twisting it.

43:36And it's like, Hey, who the hell do you think you are to twist reality? And that's why so many times when you lie reality, like snaps back and it comes back to get you. Cause like, you know, and then you can think about this. I don't know. I think it's like a really beautiful and brilliant kind of metaphor. Um, but if you think about like, you know, I'm sure all of us have experienced where like, you were lying to someone you were friends with or someone you were in a relationship with. And even if it's just a little like that, It comes back and causes all these other problems. And with the war in Afghanistan, I remember, Rob, for 20 years, they just lied.

44:10That was the official position was just lying about how great the Afghan army that we were building up was doing. And this became over the course of the 20 years, this became a more and more open secret. Everybody involved, you just kind of couldn't keep the secret. Everybody involved knew like, dude, this is a complete like paper tiger. This thing will collapse within a day. I talked to several different guys who served over there who themselves told me like, dude, this is insane. When you see the president saying we've built up this government, it's very strong. They've got a very capable military.

44:47But they kept lying about that. And then Joe Biden had to lie about that all the way up until the withdrawal and until they collapsed. And that was much like with Joe Biden himself. They kept saying he's strong until he physically collapsed himself. Same thing with the Afghan army. And one of the the results of that. was that the Taliban got all the stockpiles of weaponry that had been left behind because we didn't move that stuff out when we still had a U.S. military presence there. Now, if we had been telling the truth and we had been saying, hey, listen, we tried for 20 years, but this thing is going to collapse as soon as we leave.

45:26Rob, what would the next obvious question be? Oh, shoot. Well, what are we going to do about all the stockpiles of ammunition? We got like hundreds of millions of dollars of stuff that we're leaving behind there. So we would have gotten that out. But because we were committed to the lie, we did. So anyway, similarly in this war, it's because Donald Trump and J.D. Vance and all these guys lied for like 100 straight days. Now a lot of other people can call them on that and be like, hey, but we're committed to that lie. We were winning. We were crushing them. So the truth is that in order to, it's as simple as this is you just have to give up on the lie and just tell the truth.

46:04We were never that close. We weren't crushing them. And this had come out, Rob, this had come out like early. If the war went like around 100 days, within the first, I don't know, it was certainly the first month of the thing when it was the Pentagon reported. It was either in the Washington Post or the New York Times where they came out. I think it was the Washington Post where they admitted like, oh, you know, that figure where they said 70 to 80 percent of their weapon, their stockpile of medium range missiles had been destroyed. It's more like 20 percent. It's like they hadn't been destroyed.

46:39As we'd seen in the last week, they're still fully capable of reaching out and touching the region. It's just not true. They're still fully capable of closing the strait. None of this was true. So it's all a big lie. You got to give up on it. The key is the truth. The truth shall set you free, Rob. Any thoughts? No, let's continue because now we get the Ben Shapiro pitch that apparently the administration is just not familiar with this idea. Yeah, here we go. The field of straw man is now burning because this is what we colloquially call a lie. This is a lie. An endless conflict would be, say, a 47-year conflict with an intransigent, radical Islamist enemy that wants to destroy America.

47:23Some of us have been calling for the president to end this war quickly, like from the beginning. I've been saying for literally months, and instead— It really is rich, though. I'm sorry, Rob, because I know you want to get to the meat of this. I'll keep this short. But it really is rich for Ben Shapiro to go, like, that's a lie. You're a liar. This isn't an endless war. in endless war is the 47 year conflict we've had with like what what is this how stupid does ben shapiro think people are this is always like i know ben shapiro he's always like talks fast and he's smug but how stupid does he think we are the ulysses sit here and go oh he's gonna say you're being misleading for using the term endless war which is a term that's come up you know over the history of the global war on terrorism over the last 25 years.

48:12Now, Rob, I guess if he wants to, I don't know, it was an old joke in The Simpsons. Ben Shapiro will be the lawyer who sues the movie The NeverEnding Story. Okay, you're right. It technically does end at one point. Like, yeah, Rob, you call it an endless war. Well, Afghanistan wasn't endless, Rob. It was only 20 years. It was only the longest war in American history, but it wasn't endless. Yeah, okay. So like, what are you even doing here? You're getting into the definition of what an endless war means. Okay. Yes. Technically we haven't been at war with Iran for an endless amount of time. The point is that your prescription keeps it going and going and going.

48:51And this is how wars like Iraq and Afghanistan turned into wars that were also supposed to be very quick and short. They said Iraq was going to be a cakewalk and it ended up being like eight years of like intense, bloody civil war, 10 years of military war, and then many more years of that than of military occupation. Afghanistan ended up being 20 years. It could have been like a four month special ops campaign. So anyway, so but but so he picks on that, but that's kind of vague the way you call it an endless war and then goes, it's an endless conflict because this government's been in power as if that's what any of us are talking about.

49:28Like this is just this is this is low IQ slop propaganda oh you mean like any ayatollah or any mullah being in power in iran equals were at war okay i mean i guess you know what we're talking about rob remember like remember two years ago when we weren't at war with iran remember a year and a half ago when we weren't at war with iran verse now when we are yeah by this definition i guess we've been at war with russia uh even past the soviet union because uh yeah uh you know we got a war with them going on right now uh in ukraine through proxies and we're constantly trying to check their power so you know don't think of war as uh actually you fighting another country and engaging in battle it's any time that two countries have uh divergent interests and you see someone as an enemy even if you're not actively engaged in a war according to ben shapiro that is a war and it is i'm sorry dude it's fucking woke deconstructionist bullshit.

50:30It's like, this is like on the level of what is a woman type of fucking deflection. Well, we all know what we're talking about, dude. Like again, yeah. If we were to just like start launching, we were to just start bombing Russia right now. And I went, oh shit, they launched a war in Russia. And you go, we've always been at war with Russia. We've been at war with Russia since, well, like what? Okay, well, I'm talking about the thing that they're doing right now. We all know what I'm describing. So are we allowed to use words to describe things? anymore. This is your argument? Some type of fucking, well, who's to say what a woman is?

51:04Two plus two could equal five. That's all he's doing. Just really dumb. What do you think? The rest of us are as stupid as people who fall for this shit? All right, let's keep playing. I'm signing onto a useless ceasefire that we ought to take or bomb Harg Island, open the strait with operations like Project Freedom, which the president announced and then unannounced and then leave overwatch to our allies like Israel and the UAE. That is not an endless war. Okay. That's not an endless war. We've got, but by the way, again, every, first off, I should say, it's not like with any of the wars, if you think about what is an endless war is Afghanistan.

51:41Is that good enough? 20 years. Is that a good enough example of an endless war? Was Iraq good enough? Was Vietnam good enough? Okay. All of those started as things that were supposed to be much shorter and everyone had their, all the warhawks had their little smirky plans just like you have now all you got to do is bomb bomb kirk island send a boot in here send a boot in here bomb this here use our allies to help here you know it's funny rob because about 99 percent of the reason why ben shapiro and you know so many like him what they'll always kind of like attack me but never be willing to to have a conversation or a debate or do a show or anything like that.

52:22And they'll kind of be like, well, Dave's just fundamentally unserious. He's not a serious person. Or he said he talked to this hateful person or he spreads misinformation or something like that. And then when this war first started, all these guys were openly saying, I think Donald Trump knows a little bit better than you. This was their entire knock, if you remember, Rob, for like six weeks. I think Donald Trump and all the military intelligence knows a little bit better than this random comedian over here who thinks he knows better. And yet, think about the arrogance, Rob, in making the argument that he's making, which is something I myself would never feel comfortable doing.

53:00But he's literally Ben Shapiro, the guy who does a show on the internet, thinks he's figured out some plan that's fairly easy to impose here. Just be bombing car guy. You know how you guys have dropped a record number of bombs in the first month of this thing? just a little bit more round of bombings, a little bit of working with our allies, and we could have all this shit we wanted. And we're to believe that the administration could have had all of that. And what? Just they just got weak at the end and decided instead to give them hundreds of billions of dollars. This is the argument, Rob. Just bomb them a little bit more.

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55:40And that's not, and that's not, and that's not a warfare environment anymore. You're telling me that Iran just accepts that the strait was taken and that we can stop there. Trump, even Donald Trump, if you remember, we played a like a week and a half ago, the thing where he said, he said, this is back when he was still a war hawk, back before he became us. He said, you know, I like the idea of taking Cargill in, but the American people don't have the stomach for it. That was his phrase. It's like, yeah, okay, so take Carg Island. And now you, Ben Shapiro, by the way, I know this part never even crosses their mind.

56:15And how many U.S. casualties are you projecting as a result of that? Ben Shapiro just real quickly says, take Carg Island. Okay, there is, I don't think there would be any military expert in the world who would say that will result in zero U.S. casualties. Okay? I think the argument would be how many. And I think that if you, or the question would be how many. And I think that if you're talking about putting a sizable force onto the ground in Karg Island, I mean, goddamn, man, Iran has demonstrated they can touch the region, they can certainly touch up Karg Island, and they'll be sitting ducks.

56:54And I think, you know, depending on how many people you put in, you could be looking at thousands of U.S. casualties. Is Ben Shapiro going to spell out whether he's comfortable with that, whether that's an acceptable price for other people's, you know, kids to pay? Because I know he's not sending his own. You know, and then to your point, the idea of militarily opening the Strait of Hormusa, again, this is just, this is fantasy, absolute fantasy land. And if there was a military option and it goes, Donald Trump, you know, announced Project Freedom and then immediately canceled it. Yeah. A.K.A.

57:31what? It was working great. Again, Rob, this is what they just have to count on is this delusion. But here, listen, this is why we're going to be useful in this fight. This is why there's a good deal, MAGA, that we worked out on the last episode. This is why we're going to be useful in the fight is because in some way, and this is why MAGA needs us right now, Rob, and we're inclined to support them because we still got this country that we care about. But the reason why MAGA needs us is that MAGA is still married to the big lie in a way, right, Rob? And so they kind of can't really give the dagger to this argument to Ben Shapiro the way we can.

58:12And the big lie is what? That we ever should have fought this war at all. That this wasn't just stupid from the beginning. This was an absolute disastrous idea. It was so predictable. And that's why everybody with an ounce of wisdom did predict this. It's not like there was some, I don't know. It's not like there's been other issues that we were good on at the time, Rob, lots of them. This one was an easy one. This was really, really low hanging fruit. And so anyway, we don't have to present. We were never crushing them. This was never a good idea. And yeah, this is what's necessary because you don't have a plan.

58:50Here, let's continue with his nonsense. You know what an endless war looks like? It looks like a bad deal. You know how I know that? Because Barack Obama did it and that war didn't end. And now J.D. Vance is pushing one. And the war ain't ended. You want to make sure that you have an endless war? An endless war looks like pouring hundreds of billions of dollars in unfrozen funds into a terror supporting and nuclear weapon seeking sworn enemy of the United States in an attempt to get them to open up a street that was open before the war started. Let's just pause it. I mean, again, this is why you got to understand also something from my perspective, right?

59:24Think about how many years there were where when I was first coming up in the game and Ben Shapiro was like this guy who was put forward with like he was to be respected. It was so frustrating for so long. I was like, the guy's genuinely just not impressive. Anyway, it's nice. It's very rewarding to now live through this time. Anyway, look at that. What is this, Rob? What is, I just hate, it's so intellectually dishonest. And like, Ben Shapiro is not stupid. He knows what he's doing here. Rob, think about how dishonest an argument it is. And really very fundamentally leftist in nature, deconstructionist in nature, to start going, oh, you guys are going to call this an endless war.

1:00:07And so what I'm going to jump on there is like the technicality of the term endless. Okay, fine. Whatever argument you're making. And then he's going to go, oh, you think that's an endless war? No, you know what endless war looks like? Endless war looks like giving money to Iranians, like when Obama gave money to them, like a deal that gives money to them. I'm like, Rob, what is that? What is that line of argument? Okay, but that's not what any of us are talking about when we say war. You know? Oh, you're against war? Let me tell you what war is. War is going to work every day and paying 40 % of your money to the government.

1:00:45That's war. Okay, but that's not what any of us mean by the term. This is pure concept creep. It's like saying your words are violence. Like, wait, what? No, that's a different thing. That means a separate thing. These are separate concepts. No. Okay. Feel however you feel about the JCPOA objectively here, Rob. I would do a three-hour debate with Ben Shapiro on the JCPOA only. We could talk a lot about it. But one thing we should get out of the way, Rob, is it's objectively not a war. That's not what that deal was. It's not a war, let alone a war that drags on and doesn't end and costs a lot. That's not what it is.

1:01:26It's a deal. You might think it's a bad deal. But for your response, I just like how intensely intellectually dishonest and dumb is this, Rob? If your response is, well, we got to wrap this war up. We don't want it to be an endless war. I'll tell you what's an endless war. The JCPOA. Okay. Well, that's not what we're talking about. So can we come up with a different term that we call when you're dropping bombs on another country? We're comfortable with the term war. What term is that is okay for you to? Okay, so that term then. What is this, Rob? So arguing, it's unbelievable. Is it Ben Shapiro just becomes the blue-haired leftist he was debating with every time?

1:02:09All right, you got anything to add or you want to play the rest of this? Let's play the rest. All right. Well, there you go. That was the whole thing. There you go. There you go. Okay, we did. I mean, isn't it just, and look, you'll see this, Rob, throughout. Obviously, we just played one and we only have so much time. But you'll see this is prevalent through Mark Levin, Bacha Sargon, who we played her clip the other day. Essentially, all of the hawks who are coming down on Donald Trump were trying to kill this deal, trying to get him to go back to the bombing. the major flaw in all of their arguments is that they're they're living through this delusion that they can't recognize what just happened happened and this is why this is such an interesting moment i think in history like if i'm right and donald trump really does want to get out of this and it really is the case that some gray beard grabbed him you know what i mean that someone with a little bit of wisdom in the Pentagon or somewhere grabbed him and was like, look, you have to wrap this up.

1:03:23That was your window. Your window's done. We don't get this straight. And Rob, you got to acknowledge, particularly in the deal, look, almost everything else, almost everything else had been floated. Iran being able to keep tolls in the Strait of Hormuz, they had been pretty clear. Sanctions relief, they had been pretty clear. A promise of an end to hostilities, some version of leaving the region or the area. There were all these things. But the$300 billion fund, that kind of came out of nowhere. That came out last minute. And that, I think, is the thing that, I mean, Donald Trump capitulating to all of that plus the$300 billion.

1:04:04Hey, man, that was enough to bring the Iranians to the table. The reason that was offered is because they need this strait to be open. Okay, so if this is the case, that they desperately need that, then Donald Trump can't back down on this. This is going to be a thing where I think essentially he's going to have to force Israel to go, all right, we got what we could in this moment, but we can't get any more. Isn't it amazing if they had listened to this show, they could have dodged even engaging in this war, and once they started it, they could have broke up with Israel a lot sooner and had a better deal.

1:04:38Oh, Rob, I have a big sack of I told you so's and I'm not quite sure when I'm going to dump them all over this desk and we're going to start or going through them. But we will go through them at some point. Right now, it seems like I just sprinkled a couple out. But we'll we'll we'll get deeper into this sack over the next few weeks. But I will say this. Look, man, the basic dynamic is that that here's where we are. I think Donald Trump's desperate to get out of this. I think this creates a showdown between him and the Israel lobby, between him and the Netanyahu government. And the thing that does make this spicy, Rob, is that Benjamin Netanyahu has an election coming up.

1:05:14He's going to jail, evidently, if he doesn't win this election. And this has been it's not only his entire legacy. I mean, it's his legacy, his liberty, the future of his life, and also the fact that he's had to make these right-wing partnerships to maintain his government. And the fact that all of them, you know, Smotrich and Ben Gavir and Bibi Netanyahu and all of them, they're all well aware that the world hates Israel, that the country of America hates Israel at this point. And that they have to live in a very new reality going forward and that future generations are never going to support politicians who at least openly support Israel in the way they have in the past.

1:06:02And they know that they've got this administration right now. And so they want to get everything they can. And we'll see. We're going to find out a lot about what level of control the Israelis actually have. It's, you know, I've always been a guy who, you know, every time it seems like Rob, I go into a debate. Essentially, the way to counter me is to like straw man to go like, well, you're saying Israel has complete and total utter control over the US government, you know, well, what about this one time they didn't get their way. We've pointed this out before on the show. And I've always been the one to go, well, no, I'm not claiming they have complete and utter total control.

1:06:37I'm saying they have an undue amount of influence. but man we're really gonna we're gonna zoom in on that a little bit now and really find out how much influence they have and what happens when you really um attempt to go against them on a very big issue on their biggest issue very publicly all right come see us in uh houston texas that's our next up uh stop comicdavidsmith.com for those tickets porch tour.com to follow rob around the country what remind me rob what do you got coming up next um raleigh north carolina hamstead myrtle beach check out the run your mouth podcast find all the dates at portstore.com very good all right catch you guys tomorrow peace