The Evil, Lying Netanyahu

29:43Now, if we just had one party, everyone would look at that and go, oh, this is one party dictatorship. But you see, we're not one party dictatorship because we have two parties, right? It's just too crazy. So, and then everybody, like I said, slightly paying attention to this notices that Israel started genociding the Palestinians in 2023, did it all through 2024, and it was funded by the Biden administration. Then Donald Trump comes in and they continue doing it and it's funded by the trump administration so it's very clear for everyone to see this war that we're fighting in iran is a joint u.s israeli war the the like it's very clear that both the democrats and the republicans support israel no matter whether you have a democrat in charge or a republican in charge israel's still getting their money israel's still getting their weapons israel's still getting uh um resolutions vetoed at the united nations Israel, like they're getting it.

30:43So again, in what meaningful sense do we have democracy when super majorities of the American people are against this war? Majorities of the American people now oppose Israel. And yet they, no one represents that point of view. You have two parties, both of them represent the minority point of view on this most consequential relationship. anyway people notice that it's very hard for them to not notice that so anyway the the i guess the point here is that first of all just to the question that major's asking that dynamic has not changed the congress and the white house still support israel they support them more than ever israel in in all their years and israel's done some pretty wild horrific shit um you know israel has committed many, many massacres and atrocities, and they've committed mass ethnic cleansing campaigns, and they've had a brutal occupation going for almost 60 years now of the Palestinians, of the Gazans and the people in the West Bank.

31:56But to be very clear, Israel's never done anything like they did in Gaza, in their history. This was the worst thing that Israel's ever done, by far. And, you know, Joe Biden supported them through that, through the worst thing that they were doing. And now Donald Trump has out Zionist Joe Biden by fivefold or something like that. And so like, anyway, my point is just that Israel, while doing the worst things it's ever done, has had full support from the United States of America's government. So again, wherever you fall on the argument, that's kind of just a fact. So that dynamic has not changed at all.

32:38And Netanyahu is trying to start, is trying to start with this ridiculous, like religious argument that people are just possessed. It's just an old timey evil spirit has risen up and taken your kids again. And that's why young people in America don't support Israel. And Major doesn't correct him on it. He just changes the focus to where Congress stands or something like that. It's unbelievable. Imagine, try for a second to wrap your head around the concept. Imagine an Arab leader coming to America and giving some type of answer like this, like ancient spirits are possessing you and that's why they're making your people want to fight a war with our people.

33:16They would immediately call that, immediately like just laugh that out of the room. Not when Benjamin Netanyahu does it all right let's let's uh keep playing something else yes it is well these are historical cycles which my father historical cycle yes we are i mean anti-semitism is yeah but it flowed throughout our our history and the reason that you know but america's not a place where things like that tend to come back well they can come back they were there in the 1930s father Coughlin and they ebb because of the war but it's come back what is it I think I think it's an interesting question of why this happens and I think I think there's a natural human tendency between people and also between peoples collective groups it's called jealousy and jealousy often, you know, if somebody is very successful, you can be appreciative of them, especially if it's a very successful and strong country, then you temper your jealousy and you go to respect.

34:28But if you... So these are the embers of envy. I think it's part of it. I don't think it explains all of it. but i think it i think one thing i can say is that there are many explanations for the uh for the phenomenon the durability of anti-semitism over the ages my father was a great historian of this uh and and you you can we can have a separate discussion on it dude i mean this is like real deal levels of sociopathy i mean it it like i i don't know if you've ever like dealt with a real toxic narcissistic person before but like that is the type of shit they would say i mean i'm sorry i don't mean to just like get into psychoanalyzing bb netanyahu here but this is like the horrible guy whose like wife left him and kids no longer talk to him and is just that and is telling you that the problem was that they didn't appreciate his greatness or something like that.

35:30Like, I mean, that is why it's our it's envy. That's that's what it is. You see, it's a mix of a dark historical spiritual form that ebbs and flows, but it flows and it goes and it comes back and it captured the minds of America, you know, and even major going in America. That doesn't seem that that doesn't usually happen in America. Like we don't just all wake up one day and go like, dude, I'm getting an itching to do slavery again. You guys want to do that? Like, I know that was considered like wrong for a whole lot of years, but like it used to be this dark thing that humans did. And I don't know.

36:06I'm just getting it. Let's let's get into that again. Let's just be medieval for a little bit. You guys want to do that? Like what? This is just it just makes no sense whatsoever. But they don't throw in like also probably like they're just jealous of us because we're so strong. We're so successful. We're so like, really? You think more than the genocide. You think more than the genocide that you committed for the world to see in 4K and forced us to fund it against our wishes. You don't think that maybe? You think it was mostly just jealousy? Maybe we're like, I wish I could genocide some Gazans, but I don't get to, so I hate Benjamin Netanyahu.

36:43Or it's just because we're just so in awe of Israel that it plays on our envy. Dude, you're our fucking welfare state. bruh you're coming to an american i think they filmed this in israel but you're you're talking to an american reporter that to air on one of america's uh networks not even cable networks one of america's networks um granted that doesn't mean what it used to but still like you're talking to an american audience and you're saying we're we're jealous of you you are a puny little welfare state who only has any relevance because we say so because we allow it we don't but our government sure does that but the idea that you would say we're some we're somehow jealous of you that we're envious that is the only reason i mean this is just the the lack of self-reflection i mean for you to ever ever be in a situation where like everyone in a room hates your guts and your immediate conclusion is that it must be because you're so great and they're just jealous.

37:53This is like 16-year-old girl levels of cope. Like, what? And why did this rise up so much right around the time he started destroying Gaza? All of a sudden, the jealousy of the Jewish state just got out of control right around that time. these historical dark forces reemerged right around that time. Ain't that a hell of a coincidence? Like, what do you even say here? What rationally describes this better? That people were outraged by the atrocities that they could see with their own eyes? Or this? All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is Sheath Underwear.

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39:31Is the war with Iran over? And if it isn't, who will decide when it is? I think it accomplished a great deal, but it's not over because there's still nuclear material, enriched uranium that has to be taken out of Iran. There is still enrichment sites that have to be dismantled. There are still proxies that Iran supports. There are ballistic missiles that they still want to produce. Now we've degraded a lot of it, but all of that is still there and there's work to be done. How do you envision the highly enriched uranium will be removed from Iran? You go in and you take it out. With what? Special Forces from Israel, Special Forces of the United States?

40:14Well, I'm not going to talk about military means, but what President Trump has said to me, I want to go in there. And I think it can't be done physically. That's not the problem. If you have an agreement and you go in and you take it out, why not? That's the best way. What if there isn't an agreement? Can it be taken out by force? Well, you're going to ask me these questions. I'm going to dodge them, Because I'm not going to talk about our military possibilities, plans, or anything of the kind. And I'm just trying to get at how long is it going to take to achieve that aim? I'm not going to give a timetable to it, but I'm going to say that's a terrifically important mission.

40:55So, all right, there are a few things I think are important to break down here. And also this to me was the actually the most disgusting part of the interview on on Majors part. Just how like the dereliction of duty to be a journalist. I mean, to sit here and have. The president of the United States of America is in the middle of a war that clearly was. Well, it's a joint effort. It is the war that the man you're interviewing has spent his entire career publicly trying to get our government to fight. Now, you might ask why over the last 30 plus years has Netanyahu been trying to get America to overthrow the government in Iran?

41:44They're such a big, powerful army. We're all jealous of them, right? Why hasn't he done it? Okay, here's why. Because he can't. He can't do it. This this without America, the idea that Israel was going to go in and topple Saddam Hussein or the Ayatollah or even Muammar Gaddafi or even Bashar al-Assad is all ridiculous. They can do it on their own. They can they can do these things for one reason and one reason only. And that is that they have the most powerful nation, the most powerful military in the history of the world to do it for them. That's why they advocate for us to do this. OK, so you're interviewing a guy who's been trying to get the president into this war, trying to get every president into this war.

42:29This is on record. This is all known. And also, it's kind of known that he did get this president into the war, that he was the chief guy who sold him. It is a joint military effort. The thing this guy's been trying to do his entire career that he's now doing with our government. And clearly, at the very least, it is not going good, man. and none of these war goals have been achieved and the global economy is suffering as a result of this. And Donald Trump has himself said, I wanna make a deal. The war's over. These were Donald Trump's words that the war is over. We're working on making a deal.

43:04And you have a foreign leader coming in now and dictating that in fact, it's not over because we haven't achieved every one of the pre-war goals, which are all still the goals. including the hardest ones, like ending their support for Hezbollah, which, you know, seems like something that might be more of a concern to the Israelis than the Americans. Is that a crazy assumption to make? That a militia in the southern part of Lebanon might be a slightly bigger concern for, say, Israel than the middle part of North America over here. That might be a little bit more in their interest. But he's insisting, no, the war has to keep going, has to keep going till that.

43:49And then the other nearly impossible task is extracting their enriched uranium, which again, well, okay, let me just make this for this point first. He says that he is essentially vetoing the president saying he wants to end the war, saying, no, no, no, we're going to continue this war. And then insists that, um, that we, we extract the enriched uranium. Now, when pushed on how the heck you do this, he goes, it'd be very easy to do if we had a deal. Well, yeah. Like what? Okay. I mean, I don't know what to say. Like this is on the level of like, well, okay. Not on the level, a logical analogy, not saying these things are exactly the same.

44:37Let's just say like, I use this example on the, uh, on the members only episode. Let's say I was hanging out with one of you, one of you people who are listening, we're hanging out together and we saw John Jones, the UFC heavyweight champion across the street. And I went, you know, I'm going to go kick John Jones ass in front of everybody. I'm going to go beat the shit out of that guy. And you were like, wait, well, how are you going to do that? You know, like, how are you going to do that? That might be a relevant question. How are you, how are you going to do that? And I went, well, it'd be very easy to do if we had a deal that John Jones agreed to, that he's going to let me kick his ass.

45:13That is true. That is a, okay, fair point. That would change things. But then the question is, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, what if he doesn't agree to that? Because he's clearly already not agreed to that. Like, what is this? And then what's the answer there? I'm going to dodge the question. Exactly. So you have no answer. Will it be US troops or Israeli troops? I'm not going to get into the military of it. So then you have nothing. so you are vetoing the president of the united states of america duly elected by our country that's who gets to decide who uses our military resources in this way imperfect as the system is so you're saying no the war continues with no plan with no plan for how you can do this you are not able you clearly are not able to do this like israel alone trying to go get the enriched uranium.

46:03Israel is a country of 9 million people. Iran is a country of 92 million people. Israel can't do anything to Iran. The only question here is what we are going to do. And, you know, for him to put this out there with nothing, then you have nothing. Then you have, if you don't have a plan, then you have nothing. Then it's just a wish list. I'd like to be able to beat up John Jones. I'd like to get all of their enriched uranium. How are you going to do this against a resisting opponent.

46:33You get it like what have America invade the country and will take losses in the tens or hundreds of thousands. That's a sacrifice that Benjamin Netanyahu is willing to make, I guess. But anyway, the other point that I was going to make that I stopped myself to finish this on was it's important to just see through all this shit that listen, Benjamin Netanyahu does not care about extracting the enriched uranium. There's simply not what this is about. And I don't know, I don't know how many times I got to say this or how many times he's got to admit this in his own words, but this is about regime change for him.

47:13And this is what I was saying throughout the 12 day war. And everyone tried to argue, no, no, no, it wasn't about that. It was just about the enriched uranium. It was just about hitting these targets and setting them back. And then we did that, claimed they were totally obliterated and were right back at war with them. Oh, yeah. And with the aim, the open aim this time of regime change. Now, of course, obviously they got Donald Trump to agree to that, but it didn't work out. And by all estimates now, it's just not going to. We might get into that more on tomorrow's show because there's been a whole lot of, you know, just essentially all the information that's come out now is all the assessments all around are that this regime is not falling.

47:54Like even choking them in the Strait of Hormuz, all this stuff, that they're not falling. Our own intelligence is saying that now openly. And, you know, so now the thing is, what Benjamin Netanyahu knows, though, is that if you commit to all these war goals, right, if you commit to saying, no, you have to have all the war goals you had at the very beginning of the war, none of which have been achieved, by saying you have to have all he keeps the war going he keeps the war going he keeps the thing escalating and then he views there's a chance that the regime implodes which it's a certain point i guess they would and so this is the game benjamin netanyahu's playing and you're a journalist and you sit here and just let him play it no moment of going like wait a minute sir you are advocating for dragging our country into a war and you don't even have a plan for how this would possibly work out because he doesn't because his plan is just escalate the thing enough and the regime collapses eventually.

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50:26Frequently misattributed to Winston Churchill. History is written by the victors. He didn't say it. Lots of people said it. He didn't say it. No, he said I don't worry about it because I'll write it myself. But that idea that victors write the history, what will the history, the state of Israel, will write about this conflict with Iran? And when will you know it's been victorious? I think we already achieved great things. Remember, Iran was surrounded us with a noose of death, of simultaneous invasions from Gaza, from Hamas, and from Lebanon by Hezbollah. We were going to be rocketed and pelleted with ballistic missiles that would destroy our cities.

51:14Iran would have atomic weapons to destroy us. We smashed the terror axis. It's not finished. We have still work to do. But it's clear that Israel has emerged as the most powerful country in the Middle East. We have a partnership with the U.S. that is second to none. The national security memorandum that was issued a few months ago described Israel as the model ally, not the ally, the model ally of the United States. So we've changed our position from being on the verge of being exterminated, being annihilated, to a position where we knock back the annihilators and become a very forceful element, a very forceful country in the Middle East.

52:01Now, all power is relative. You know that. All power is relative. So, Iran hasn't disappeared. Hezbollah hasn't disappeared. Hamas hasn't disappeared. But they're, in many ways, in some cases, a shadow of their former selves. They certainly don't threaten us now with annihilation. They try to kill our people. They occasionally succeed. But there's no question that the relative power of Israel has changed. And, you know, that's been our situation. When we started out, we were 600 ,000 people on the beach here, and we were attacked by seven Arab armies, and we survived by the skin of our teeth. And as we got stronger, we made peace with the Arab states.

52:47I myself, along with President Trump, we made the Abraham Accords peace with four Arab countries. I now see the possibility of the expansion of those agreements. and the expansion and the deepening of the agreements we do have to alliances with Arab states of the kind that we'd never even dreamed of. And that's the result of the change in the relative power of Israel. The fact that we face down this neighborhood bully, this killer regime in Iran, that's brought quite a few of the Arab countries closer together with Israel. And that's good for peace. It's interesting you mention that, Mr. Prime Minister, because I just read...

53:26So let's just pause it. Oh, sorry, that's the end of the clip. Was that the last one, Natalie, or is there one more?

53:33Let me see. Okay, cool. Let me know. You know, it's just, it's really something to hear Benjamin Netanyahu spin his line of bullshit about, you know, how Israel was on the brink of total annihilation, but now they're strong. um you know israel israel has he says we can essentially this is part of the netanyahu doctrine that he's just like slipping in there that it's like yeah this was the whole thing man it's it's all like what it really comes down to is just that like again like i said before even if you go back to 1996 the clean break and um benjamin netanyahu wrote a book uh called fighting terrorism.

54:17I think it might've been in 95 when he wrote fighting terrorism. It's a book worth reading. Very easy read, very quick, pretty stupid book. But this whole kind of greater Israel clean break, seven countries in five years strategy, right? Has always been like, again, like I said, the Israel, let's say in the 1990s, the idea that the Israel government of 1996 was going to go topple Saddam Hussein's government. I mean, they talk about it as if there's a possibility that they could do it, but it's clearly all about getting the U.S. to do it for them. And in effect, when it ends up happening, that's always what it is, is getting the U.S.

55:01to do it with them. Sometimes Israel will help out in some covert way, maybe even help out with some air power, but they ain't sending troops in and they're not doing any of this themselves, but they are playing a very large role in getting America to do a lot of these things Iraq Libya Syria um you know and and now Iran and this is his thing yeah listen if we if we if we take out the killer regimes as he calls them then we can live in peace now of course this this whole plan also is, you know, relies on a lot of American bribes, you know, like the Abraham agreement was basically bribing all these countries with U.S.

55:44taxpayer money or, you know, military equipment, but same difference, right? That comes, that was purchased with U.S. taxpayer money. So we, we bribe all these countries, you know, we have to pay Egypt like$3 billion a year and Jordan billions of dollars every year. And we have Saudi Arabia and UAE and all these countries, Qatar, we have to, that we have to like bribe all these countries to be friendly with Israel. And then we have to overthrow all the killer regimes. And then we can have peace. This is Netanyahu's pitch, you know, that this is, this is essentially what we can do. And you can't even imagine.

56:18And we're on the verge of everything being so great. And then we're going to have a bigger round of the Abraham Accords, which by the way, if you remember the Abraham Accords, that changed life for Americans, right? You remember how different your life was before the Abraham Accords? And then after the Abraham Accords, I mean, I don't even know what the pitch is supposed to be for us here. But the thing about it is this, right? Number one, the American taxpayer doesn't wish to pay for any of this. We don't wish to bribe all of these other countries and then spend, you know, the trillions of dollars and thousands of lives of our soldiers on these wars.

56:57We don't wish to do we didn't wish to do any of this. Also, we were never really informed why we were doing it. And so there's this inherent problem right there, which is that your plan ends up just costing my country, well, it costs trillions of dollars. So this is, yeah, doesn't work so good for us, now does it? But then, you know, one might also point out that, like, so first of all, you're not entitled to American money and military support. and this country overwhelmingly doesn't want to give it to you anymore. And so there's that element. But then also, you know, if you're going to say like in your whole plan here that as he refers to it, we're standing up to the bully, this killer government of Iran.

57:48Well, you know, a grok who's killed more people for the government of Israel or the government of Iran. Even you could even have your bullshit 40 ,000 number of innocent people that Iran killed. Like it's not even close, not even close. And if you want to add up all these wars that have been necessary for this Netanyahu doctrine, right, to stand up to all the killer regimes and include the war in Iraq and the war in Libya and Syria and all this, all the U.S. wars. Like, you know, we are kind of a killer regime. You're the killer regime. That's just those are just the facts. Like you're using a word, you're talking about killing, except the U.S.

58:28and Israel government kill far more people. So that's a little bit of a problem there. And then I guess the other thing I have that's a little bit of an issue is that you say, then we can have peace. You know, now, just to be very clear, as some people have maybe have seen this video, right? there's Netanyahu when he went by a different name I can't remember his old name but there's an old video of him when he was like I don't know like 25 or something like that and he always looked old he looked like a 40 year old when he was 25 but there's this video of him I think he's in his 20s maybe his 30s and he goes he's quoted as saying it's almost the same line as what he says about Iraq.

59:14He goes, he goes, if the Soviet Union falls, I guarantee you there will be positive reverberations around the region. You know, back then he was trying to say that the PLO is only so the Palestinian liberation or like the, what he was saying essentially was that the Arab terrorism that we're dealing with here is a, is a result of them being proxies of the Soviet Union. like they're the Soviet Union's guys here now it is true that they did some business with the Soviet Union but why was Benjamin Netanyahu framing it that way he was trying to say hey America your fight is our fight this is their this is you know what I mean like this is this is your fight too because it's a this was in the middle of the Cold War so like yo this is a dynamic between the Soviet Union and you so anyway he's on record being like yo be on be in this fight with us.

1:00:05And if the Soviet Union falls, positive reverberations will sweep the region. Of course, he guaranteed that if Saddam Hussein fell, positive reverberations would sweep the region. Like every single one. So in other words, he's sitting here saying, you're the killer regimes. We got to take you out and then we can have peace. But this plan that Benjamin Netanyahu who has been working on since the mid-1990s has resulted in the war in Iraq, the war in Libya, the war in Syria, the destruction of Gaza, the war in Iran, the war on South Lebanon, massive bombing campaigns in Yemen. Like, it's been permanent war.

1:00:45So fucking forgive me if I don't trust that the guy whose plan has been permanent militarism, permanent war. Look at Israel itself. We have the nation of Israel. That is a permanent military state. Now, they may say it has to be that way because we're a tiny little state in the middle of this big Arab world, and maybe that's the case. But this is the perspective of somebody who has a permanent military state, permanent militarism, a mass surveillance state, always in a state of war. Everybody is drafted. Everybody must serve in the IDF. Well, I guess not the religious Jews, but everyone else, including women, including their girls got to have to all go do training in the IDF.

1:01:30And like, okay, even if you want to say, hey, we're this tiny little country in the Middle East, and that's the way it's got to be. Okay, well, we're the United States of fucking America. And we're supposed to be a free country, not a permanent militarism country. And because of this plan, it's transformed my country into that. maybe maybe this and not ancient dark forces have something to do with why people aren't supporting israel anymore this plan and i'm not letting my government off the hook or saying that it's all israel's fault or anything like that i first and foremost as anyone who listens to this show knows i first and foremost blame the presidents of the united states of america now people who argue with me try to there's a common like gotcha well they'll ask me they're like, which president do you like, Dave?

1:02:18Just give me the one you like. And then I got to go. Yeah, no, I hate them all. Okay, fine. But listen, it's their responsibility. They were elected by the American people that every last one of them have signed off on this. But my country, like I grew up in America in the 1980s, and that country doesn't fucking exist anymore. And it was a very free country compared to today's country in many ways. And one of them was that we didn't have this. We didn't live under mass surveillance. We didn't live under permanent militarism and constant forever wars. Now, don't get me wrong. We were an empire.

1:02:55There were a lot of problems already in the 1980s and the government had done a lot of bad stuff. But this has transformed it. And it was the global war on terrorism that did it. And so Benjamin Netanyahu, this guy whose plan has been to, we should both be countries that are permanent military states, permanent mass surveillance states, and that comes with all the liberty for its citizens that you might expect when you live under a permanent military state and fight wars constantly. Like, I'm sorry. You can't sit here and come to me and say, I have a plan to deal with these killer governments, and then eventually we'll bring peace.

1:03:34What you bring is a loss of liberty and forever war. And we want no part of it. So, you know, he can sit here and say he's not for censorship. But here's the thing. It's kind of like Donald Trump saying he's not for, you know, escalating the war or something like that. It's like, yeah, but kind of what choice do you have now? That's the thing we're all wondering. You know, what choice do you have? Because you're sitting here and you're recognizing at least that the problem exists. You're going, yeah, we're getting destroyed on social media. We're getting destroyed by the podcasters and all these people.

1:04:16But then you can't diagnose the problem at all. You have to just pretend it's for every other reason other than the obvious. So what are you going to do? You know, what are you going to do here? Because you can't win the debate. you can't win the debate with this nonsense. And that's why I think the only thing they can do is, is try to shut us up in one way or the other. And we'll see. Let's see them try, I guess. I don't know. What else can we do? I'm not going to shut up voluntarily. So, all right, that's today's show. Thank you guys very much for tuning in. I will catch you next time. Peace.

1:05:02Thank you.