The Legacy of 9/11

27:12Now, is there anything in this definition that doesn't apply to the U.S. military or the IDF other than the word non-state? Pull it back up for a second, Natalie. I want you to honestly tell me, Rob, if any of this, besides the word non-state, which, okay, if you get that in there, so all you're saying is because we're a government and you're not a government, we're good. Like that's, if you only, if that's all you have. You don't have much of an argument. And aside from the word non-state, which I'll grant that like Hamas is not a state or Al Qaeda is not a state, even though Israel, in fact, with Hamas, that's the whole beef.

27:45But I'll grant their non-state actors, but violence, okay, the use of violence against civilians in pursuit of a political objective. Well, Rob, what is a bombing campaign? What is a shame? Now, if you want to get into, no, no, no, no, to know it has to be intentionally used against the civilians. Well, that's first of all, like, okay, fine. But Rob, we've dealt with this a million times. That word intentional isn't a look, dude, you launch a war of choice and you know, a whole bunch of people are going to die in the process. Then you intentionally did that. If you hit a wedding because you think there's one suspect there, but if you want to say there are acts in war where we meant to hit this coordinate, that was a military coordinate.

28:27And we accidentally hit a little girl's school. fine, maybe you could call that like involuntary manslaughter or keep that in some other separate category. But in terms of like the overwhelming action that sanctions campaigns, that bombing campaigns, that acts of war are where they target a civilian population by this definition that Bill Maher has laid out, why would the destruction of Gaza or the destruction of Baghdad or the destruction of Libya. Why would those not count as state terrorists? You tell me what I'm missing, Rob. Yeah, no, I picked up on the big word there is non-state, which is a nice close close circle that a state or a military can engage in the exact same activities.

29:10It's just if you haven't declared yourself, and by the way, even if you become a state, they'll declare that you're a state sponsor of terrorism or that you're a terrorist state. so it's not even a fair criteria because now all of a sudden now all of a sudden if you are a terrorist state you're a terrorist state so i guess that like it doesn't it doesn't matter it still comes down and we do that too and we give weapons to terrorist organization and we give money to terrorist organizations again again while benjamin netanyahu is himself calling everyone else a state sponsor of terrorism he's the one who funded hamas he's the state sponsor of terror So again, there's just, if you're going to say things like, remember, we are the good guys and they are the bad guys.

29:52Like, okay, I'm, again, Rob, I'm actually not against that, but give me the objective standard. Like in one sense, if you were going to say, well, hey, we are better than them because like in our culture, we respect property rights and we respect like freedom and we have, you know, or something like that. Yeah, that totally makes sense of why I'd rather live here than there. but if you're going to say you're talking about this conflict you're talking about attacks from them against us and attacks from us against them and you're just going to say we're the good guys then you're going to have to actually have an argument for that sorry again like sorry if this makes people emotional i know on some level people want to be like yeah we're number one but let's have a real conversation like adult men here all right let's keep playing lead passenger

30:43a wrong turn taken at the chrysler building

30:52why not you say the planes and the towers got into a fight just pause it so far so like i think so far the only point bill maher has made is that 9-11 was terrorism and they though the al-qaeda isn't good so okay i concur let's keep playing

31:17i mean after all as the bbc advised its reporters using the word terrorist can be a quote barrier rather than an aid to understanding you know what's really a barrier to understanding lying

31:41Back in 2001, after the attack, I said this. Political correctness itself is something we can no longer afford. Feelings are going to get hurt so that actual people won't. Well, it didn't last. I mean my show.

32:07As for the idea of ditching political correctness and actually being honest, that never even got off the ground. After 9-11, there was a big debate. Was this a clash of civilizations? It was and it still is. Not between Muslims and Christians, no reasonable person was saying that, but radical Islamism versus Western liberalism? Yes, that's a real thing. Fighting people who hate freedom of religion. Again, just pause it for a second. Gino, I mean, just think about for a second how profoundly dishonest it is to say that, okay, look, it's not Christians versus Muslims. It's radical Islam versus Western liberalism.

32:50As if that's what's in this fight. Liberalism, Rob. They hate us for our freedom. What do we mean? What do we mean by liberalism? I don't know, some vague thought about the Enlightenment, perhaps. It's Osama bin Laden against free speech. And it's Osama bin Laden against, I don't know, what, like the Magna Carta or something. Like that's, or when really, obviously, the comparison would be the brutality of U.S. militarism versus radical Islamic terrorism. Like if you want to have a conversation about this, but what we're to pretend that the former doesn't exist. Are those big metal machines of death that we send over to the Middle East that drop explosives all over human beings like that is just we're not allowed to what factor that in that level of human suffering, which objectively speaking dwarfs by orders of magnitude anything that the American people have suffered.

33:49That just can't enter the conversation. It's as if that doesn't exist, Rob. It's not, you know, the military presence in Saudi Arabia and the brutal sanctions campaigning against Iraq that killed hundreds of thousands of people and the brutal military occupation of Palestine by the Israelis funded by the U.S. none of that it's like you know like a girl reading a book at the library versus osama ben laden now you tell me who's the good guy there rob have i done anything here like what you what i mean like why not we could switch that around and just like talk about like a girl in the middle east or something like that verse the u.s military i i don't know this is silly anyway so here's some Bill Maher propaganda.

34:38We'll get to boring soon. ...tools and hate the idea of women as equal and free humans. How did liberals wind up on their side? And many did. One in five young Americans now has a positive view of Osama bin Laden. He's like Luigi Mangione in a turban.

35:04you'll hear it in a lot of places now that the worst thing about 9-11 was innocent Muslims came under suspicion yeah where that did happen it's wrong but the worst thing about 9-11 was 3 000 people got roasted at the office but the prevailing view of so many young people is that Well, come on. We're the worst country ever. So if someone attacks us, that can't be all bad. That certainly wasn't the attitude 25 years ago. In fact, I know a guy whose show got canceled just for saying the terrorists weren't cowards. Can you stop? I'm sorry. Yeah. It's just a bunch of lines that are driving me nuts.

35:40The argument is not, hey, if someone's attack attacks us, we're bad. The argument is, hey, let's not go around the world fucking up other people's shit because it gives them a reason to attack us. and it's making us less safe. And there's a big difference there. It's not justifying when people engage in terrorism. It's just saying maybe there's a better strategy to prevent terrorism, which includes not pissing these people off. And by not pissing these people off, it doesn't mean not getting retribution. It means not doing active things to instigate and to look at what blowback theory is that if you're going to then also try and clamp down on these people, you might create more future terrorists.

36:18That's not a justification for their actions. It's a, it's a, it's a completely different statement. Dude, you know, it's funny. I've had a few different people. I believe it was Coleman Hughes, I think said this to me when, when I debated him. And, um, I think there's a couple other people who have said similar things to me over the years where they've said things like where I'll, I'll say something along the lines of like, yeah, but put yourself in the position of someone in Gaza, you know, like making whatever point I'm making, like to you, you know, Netanyahu's Adolf Hitler. I mean, he's the one who killed your mother and your sister, you know, like he's, and, and, and I remember Coleman said this, a few other people have said something similar where they go, yeah, even if I put myself in that perspective, I would, I might be mad at the IDF, but I'd also be mad at my own leadership.

36:59You know, I'd also be mad at Hamas for doing October 7th that then caused this attack. I'd also be mad at Arafat for not taking this deal at all. So like, in other words, their position is that as, as somebody in Gaza over the last three years, while I'm in a living hell and I'm holding my, you know, the part of my baby that I just recovered from this building and my wife's already been killed and my life has been destroyed. I'm supposed to, in that moment, have the presence of mind to go, you know, my leadership is somewhat responsible for this too. Yet me and you, Rob, sitting over here in a first world country in air conditioned studios with all the luxuries in the world, having no immediate threat to our loved ones and no immediate threat to our own safety.

37:42We and Bill Maher, the guy worth$100 million and has been for, we can't sit here and go, hey, what role, if any, did our leadership have in provoking this attack? What response did we have to this? If we're going to be so, which we should rightfully be, but if we are going to be so appalled at the loss of 3 ,000 innocent people, how can we just yada yada? Notice it doesn't even come up in Bill Maher's thing here. It's not even a thought. We're talking about the response to 9-11 and the global war on terrorism. We have killed millions of innocent people. Do you know how many 9-11s that is? Like, it's just, it's insane that you just would, you shut this part of your brain off.

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40:42All right, let's play a little bit more of this before we switch to the next one.

40:54And that guy was right. They weren't cowards. But I'll tell you who is. Democratic Party politicians. And I'll tell you why. Because nowhere has this moral confusion become more obvious than in a place called Gaza. A little strip of land that was not part of the original Israel, but which they won in a war launched against them, but then gave back. Gave back. Just pause it. Pause it right here. Also, Bill Maher, I mean, he just does this shit, dude. where he's like lecturing young people. Let me tell you a little something about this little place called Gaza, okay? Israel won it in a war launched against them and then they gave it back.

41:32Hey, Rob, no, they didn't. They're a fucking liar. This is absolutely not true. They won it in the 1967 war that Israel launched. This was a preemptive war. By the way, Ben Shapiro and Dennis Prager and Menachem Begin have all admitted this. Menachem Begin called it a war of choice. He himself, you know, Menachem Begin is right, Rob, the peacenik lefty Israeli. Right. Yes. The founder of the Likud party, the fucking psychopath terrorist. What was it? He was the Lehigh guy. I can't remember which terrorist organization he worked for. I think it was the Lehigh. Anyway, no, they launched a war against Egypt.

42:12Then Jordan jumped in. They won the war and then they just took Gaza. But first of all, they launched the war against Egypt. the Egyptian military. Nobody is even making a claim that the people of Gaza started the war. And so because Israel launched a war against Egypt, I mean, don't get me wrong, Egypt was like mobilizing their military. But as Menachem Begin said, they didn't know that they were going to attack him and they didn't have to launch a war. There were lots of other options there. This is what Menachem Begin said, who I think was defense minister at the time. No, no, no, no, no, no, that can't be right because it was, what's his name was, defense minister during the 67 war.

42:51I'm sorry, I got that wrong. Sorry, I'm getting confused. Anyway, but no, they launched a war against someone else, then just took that territory. And Rob, we've said this a million times, they gave it back in 2005. Yes, meaning they took down the settlements and they removed the military occupation, but they still controlled the borders, the sea space, the airspace, the water, the electricity, the tax revenue. No, they did not give it back. So this is like Bill Maher just first off makes a claim that is objectively wrong. Israel wasn't attacked in the 67 war. They launched the 67 war. It's a fact of history.

43:26And then just, you know, scoffs down at all these these guys. We can we can get off of this. But look here, the obvious point is like, Bill, you're going to bring up Gaza and you're going to pretend that you can't possibly understand why the young people after that aren't so convinced that we're the good guys and they're the bad guys. And that's as simple as it is. that's really what you've got here all right okay well i've got a lie about history the lie about history which rob isn't it so insane the israeli lie is always we tried to give you away it's like a slave owner like insisting that he offered his slave freedom once 20 years ago and therefore it's totally morally justified that he enslaves the guy like what you don't that's not something you offer once and then get credit for offering you're never allowed to enslave people you have to offer that every second of every day like it's just it's so ridiculous rob that this is actually an argument people use go ahead your thoughts yeah well it's just the whole segment is so odd because i agree with him 100 let's call things what they are but then he goes on to misrepresent what people are actually criticizing about the uh terror wars and our foreign you know are foreign mishaps of launching all these wars.

44:45Yeah, that's right. Here, let's switch over to the Jeremy Boring one real quick, because I wanted to make sure I addressed this, just because, look, for people who don't know, and it is an unfortunate name, but Jeremy Boring was the CEO of the Daily Wire from the beginning to, like, their entire thing. It was him and Ben Shapiro did Daily Wire together. Now, they had some type of falling out, I think, and they don't like each other anymore, because that's what happens when, you know... Really? The two of them don't get along? yeah well this is what happens when really terrible people do things together it does come back to bite you I didn't even know that they weren't working together anymore but isn't it actually kind of perfect though it's just like yeah because that's the quality of people they are now they're like yeah okay they don't talk anymore anyway but so it's interesting because one is it does really reveal something that this is and this is kind of the thing I got at in this debate with Alan Dershowitz you know I debated Alan Dershowitz uh the other day um or a week ago or something.

45:39And I mean, look, whatever it was, it was one of those, it was one of those, the reactions been pretty incredible, but the one, the big moment from the debate that everyone seemed to like the most that went the most viral. I mean, the whole thing was a one-sided beat down. I mean, he really just had nothing, but there was one point where he spurred out and started calling me an anti-Semite because I said he had disproportionate loyalty to a foreign country. And then I just hit him with the example of how he left his lifelong political party over this foreign country. And man, that looked bad for him because it really is tough to say you left your lifelong political commitment over one issue and then argue, what do you mean I'm devoted to that issue?

46:17It's just too insane. But this is what lets you know that it actually isn't a conspiracy theory to think of people like Alan Dershowitz as a fifth column who will be activated as in effect a foreign agent because that's what he is. And you see this, we're like, oh, right. So all the other bullshit that they pretend to be about, don't get it twisted. This is all the Daily Wire was ever really about, right? And this is the reason why, just how about this real clear? Here's a real clear example. Think about all the things that Ben Shapiro would claim to believe in, right? Rob, think of all the things he would have claimed to believe it.

46:57He's an Orthodox Jew. He's for free market capitalism. He's against cultural degeneracy. He's for fiscal sanity. He's for a deregulated free economy. He believes in a million different things, right? And he would sit there and say, you know, dude, for someone to say that all I really care about is Israel or all I really care about is the wars, first off, that's a lie. It's an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory. Of course, that's all the Jew cares about. Okay. Meanwhile, Ben Shapiro will sit down and have a friendly conversation with destiny. me would he ever do that with me no wait why is that come on guys we all know the answer why is that even though supposedly on ben shapiro's worldview i am just a way not only way closer to him a way better person like just objectively i'm a guy who believes in god and loves his wife and is faithful to her and raises my kids i'm a guy who believes in free market economics all that Then you have someone out here who would be like promoting like degeneracy and abortion and like the most from your worldview, a cartoon character of who would be like the most evil person.

48:07But you're not really that exercised by him. You know, you see a lot of hints like this all around. Anyway, let's get. So I saw this because that who is that from the Babylon Bee. I'm blanking on his name. But he shared it. those guys are just i mean dude they are the worst i mean they listen again i never even i never like go to the like seven thousand dollars or like you're paid by that yahoo like i i don't say i have no inside knowledge about any of this but you're like you guys you better be foreign agents i i'd have less respect for you if you're not but these are guys who by the way would have and people were pulling out old tweets of this babylon b guy i really am blanking on his name i'm not trying to one of them is seth dylan but it's not him it's the other guy it's the other guy whose name i can't remember but um he uh so he used to claim huh queer face aid butts something like that uh so he uh he used to claim like a lot of these guys like the gunther eagleman clip they used to be right with me 2024 yeah no new wars that's why you got to support donald trump yeah where's the deep state kamala harris is gonna get you into more wars and then flipped on a fucking dime to support this shit.

49:19Now they want to go back and say this. Now here, Jeremy Boring is actually going to be way more blatant than Bill Maher is here, of course. So here, let's go to that clip. Through our global war on terror veterans and the families of those who lost their lives in that conflict, I say only this. Thank you. The global war on terror was a virtuous war in defense of American interests. It sought to avenge 3 ,000 of our fellow citizens who were murdered on our own soil, to pursue justice for them and their loved ones, to deter further attacks by the vultures who were circling and believed we could never recover from such a wound.

49:58Pause it for a second. I'm sorry. This is, you know, his thing was he always wanted to be an actor. That was, he always wanted to be like in Hollywood. As you can see, this is, he thinks he's got his big opportunity here. Hey, wow, Jeremy, riveting performance. And thank you for invoking all of those dead people and standing on their memory. Who did 9-11? I'm sorry. Was it Saddam Hussein's Iraq? No, no, no. Muammar Gaddafi's Libya. Must have been Bashar al-Assad over in Syria. I think it was those Houthis in Yemen. Was it any of them? Oh, no, no, no. That's right. It was the regime in Somalia who we've been bombing for 24 years.

50:40Nope, not them either, huh? Well, it must've been those dirty Palestinians. Good thing we destroyed Gaza. Was it Hezbollah who were bombing and sat like in this global war on terrorism, how many people who didn't do 9-11 are you allowed to kill in the name of 9-11? I'm sorry. I know you're in the middle of this like very emotional thing and you're thinking about all those people. I'm just wondering how many people who had absolutely nothing to do with those people dying, are you morally allowed to murder in the name of those people who died? Now, by the way, I left, you know, Afghanistan out of there because, you know, okay, look, there were Al Qaeda bases in, in Afghanistan.

51:17Now, if you want to argue that we're allowed to fight a 20 year regime change war against the Taliban because they were the landlord to Al Qaeda, I think that's a pretty, um, ridiculous claim, but by the way, you lost that war. So, so you lost that one and the Taliban still runs Al Qaeda. Plus they got like, you know, insane amounts of our weaponry. So what on earth What are you talking about? Mr. Facts don't care about your feelings. All you seem to have here are feelings. How do you feel, Rob? Let's watch some more of this. All right, let's keep playing. And it sought to project our power into that part of the world where our enemies had plotted and schemed against us.

52:00It did so imperfectly. Oh, it did so imperfectly. By the way, I'd love the precision there, Rob. Rob, listen, when you are attacked in war, you have every right to respond to that part of the world. You know, I remember thinking, you know, as I heard the story of World War II and the crimes of Adolf Hitler, I just thought, get Europe. You know, like maybe you miss and you just take out Sweden or something like that. But we have every right to project our power into that part of the world. we divide the this is what happens if there's a terrorist attack you divide the world into four quadrants and anything in the quadrant that the terrorism came from is fair game like what is that project our power into that part of the world for u.s interests whole lot of vague shit to say start wars uh of choice wars of aggression based on sold on lies against people who had nothing to do with 9-11.

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55:03Yeah, Rob, can you just, since you adjusted your shirt, you sound way, way lower. Can you just move the mic over a little bit? I might've lost my microphone actually. Oh, maybe that's what happens. I might have to get fully undressed on camera and find this microphone. The audience is about to get a real show. Rob, can you just... Can you take your pants off and say that again? The audience is about to get a real show here. All right. Hold on one second. You were on project power. The idea that projecting power is just good. Well, getting undressed on camera, that's what's good. Yeah. They say projecting power like it's some amazing noble goal or that we need some constant quota met of power projection.

55:42You know what's a better goal? is making our lives fucking awesome and not spending money all over the world and showcasing that freedom can really work out and that we can live great lifestyles over here. And you know what else you could do to project power is grow the shit out of your economy and have a lot of technological developments that if somebody wants to mess with you, you've got all the resources in the world to go ahead and take them on. But the idea that you just have to go around the world and blow shit up so that other people are afraid of you comes right back to what we've been talking about which is when you do that people are pretty mad at you and then you actually get yourself into messes of long wars of what we got going on in iran right now where you're flirting with disasters and you showcase hey we're not actually that powerful and you create more enemies for no reason how about uh how about stick over here and make shit great yeah it's it's i mean it's just unbelievable to just like projecting it just sounds like um it almost sounds something like something tim allen would say like if his wife caught him in a home improvement project that was going terribly wrong like well i'm projecting power oh that's easy okay yeah after after a disastrous war that you lie us into and then you tell us how it's going to go and you're completely wrong and it doesn't go that way at all and it's just a catastrophe and all these people that we were projecting power okay quite this is supposed to be intelligent or something all right let's keep playing.

57:04God, how imperfectly. There was political propaganda. There was political miscalculation. There was political betrayal. There was corporate greed and naive idealism and cynical manipulation. It was a bloody, expensive exercise in human imperfection because we are imperfect. And the gains you bled for were temporary because all human achievement is temporary. But the West is not in trouble because of the global war on terror. The West is in trouble because we've forgotten why we fought the global war on terror, because politicians gave away the victories that you secured and then spent years undermining those victories in exchange for cheap political wins.

57:45But that's not the soldiers. Just pause it. Yes. Go ahead, Rob. The wars were sold on lies, and then we had to leave those territories because we were kind of unsuccessful. We finally left Afghanistan 20 years later. I mean, according to him, why did we leave? We were just giving up the victory. We should have held out there longer. Are we supposed to still have troops in Iraq to this day? We just gave up the victory. I guess we're supposed to conquer territories and spend money there indefinitely, according to his worldview. And the fact that we left these areas and finally cut our losses after 20 years was us giving up our victories.

58:20Yeah. You know, and forget the fact, which probably this is the one that we should make the most of is that people like Ben Shapiro and Jeremy Boring claim to be deeply religious people. And you would think that people who claim to be deeply religious would have some type of moral hang up over the millions of innocent people that died. Again, Rob, we're not talking about like, hey, there was a military action and there's a cost to it that there was some cost of life, but we believe it saved more life than it cost. You're looking at wars where like millions of people died and there's just, you're like, goddamn, man, there's just no reason to think that there's any scenario where millions of people would have died because we didn't fight the war in Iraq or even Afghanistan or any of them.

59:01And so, yeah, you got a big problem there, I think, morally. But how about just, Rob, also, they pretend to be fiscal conservatives. This is like one of the things that they claim is their big beef. And like, you think the$10 trillion we blew on these wars didn't weaken us? that's like no big deal any idea how much wealth that is for a government to just rob out of his people do you know what that is to do that to a people to extort 10 trillion dollars of wealth away from them think about the fact that this is more wealth than most countries this is like more than the gdp of most entire nations combined together it's an insane amount of wealth that was just stolen and absolutely wasted.

59:46This doesn't even fuck with you at all. And what you can yada yada your way out of wars sold off lies that killed a bunch of people by giving me some list of like, you know, asking yourself easy questions and then answering them. Was it perfect? No. Were mistakes made? Yes. Was there corporate greed? Yeah. In other words, was there corporate greed? Yes. In other words, weapons companies profited to the tune of trillions of dollars off of babies dying, torturous deaths. Huh. Okay. I just got to restate it. The idea of don't remember why we fought these wars. Well, I remember why we fought the Iraq war, and that's because they lied to us about weapons of mass destruction and Saddam Hussein's involvement in 9-11.

1:00:33I guarantee positive reverberations will spread throughout the region. was the exact quote from Benjamin Netanyahu in 2002 when he testified before Congress. Am I remembering well enough, Jeremy Boring? Is that the type of remembering you wanted? Was it the remember, like, when we were promised that Gaddafi was about to go genocidal? Was that, should we remember that? Let's really remember every single claim they made about every single one of these wars and how they were all lies. All right, let's let Jeremy finish up.

1:01:38online grifters monetizing your pain make you believe otherwise. Truly, they will have their reward. May they choke on it. You served honorably. The wars in which you served were honorable. The wars weren't a lie. The interests were real. The cause was just. The mistakes were the ordinary mistakes of fallen human beings doing impossible things under impossible pressure. They don't retroactively erase the morality of what you did. I mean, Rob, it's literally nothing but an appeal to emotion. It's funny, like people, the people on the Daily Wire side, they'll criticize me of appealing to emotion because I bring up the fact that so many like kids die in a war.

1:02:20And I'll have to point out to them that that's not actually what an appeal to emotion is. That's just an appeal to morality, which is a totally reasonable thing to do when you talk about war. But this is blatantly just an appeal to emotion. Remember your buddy. Remember the sacrifice. Remember his name was tattooed on you. Don't let them blame him. Rob, who is blaming the soldier who got tricked into this shit? Who is it that's gone out there and said the war on terrorism, the global war on terrorism was an absolute disaster. It was evil. It was sold off lies. And you know who I blame? Your buddy, John, who bought into the propaganda and joined the army and went over there.

1:02:58No, we're blaming the politicians who lied us into these conflicts, okay? We're blaming the top. That's who we're blaming. And you're sitting here running cover for them. Tell me if I'm wrong. Have you ever heard chants of your buddy was a war criminal? Or do we say George W. Bush and Dick Cheney and Condoleezza Rice were war criminals? Anyway, it's all just like for him to try to go back. And this is what these guys are. This is who they're actually, this is what they're actually here to do, to try to go back and rehabilitate the most disastrous policy in modern American history. And the nerve of these people who think they're any better than the socialists, the nerve of you to think you're any better than the socialists.

1:03:38You are socialists. The military is socialism, by the way. Anyone ever tell Jeremy Boring that? It's social. You stand for socialism, just only the socialism of death. You object to all the malinvestment in the socialism of providing health care, which by the way, we do too. There's a whole lot of malinvestment in that but you have no problem with the with the military which has all the malinvestment of medicare plus the added bonus of murdering babies all right the daily wire for murdering babies i gotta get the hell out of here but uh all right rob you get out of here i want to make one more point before we wrap up well here i'll make one more point solo uh on this but i did just have to before we we wrap up i had to address The final point that Jeremy Boring makes there at the end, which is that, which is what, and don't let any of the online grifters fool you otherwise, because that's, that's all any of us could be who are opposing the war.

1:04:36You know, it reminds, I was, if you remember one time when I was debating Chris Cuomo, he said, he said something like that in the middle of the debate. Oh, it made me so angry. He shouldn't have said it too. I just became more vicious. But he said, if you remember at one point in the debate that like I said something and he had no response to it. And he goes, you know what, dude, that's good for clicks on the Internet. But blah, blah, blah. And it just made me so angry that it's like, oh, that's all you can say is essentially you can attack my motivation. I'm only in this for the money or something like that.

1:05:10And it's particularly with the covid stuff with Cuomo. It's like, hey, man, it really didn't feel that way through 2020. it really didn't feel that way through 2021 it's just like now that we were proven right and the audience agrees with us now you say it's easy but like chris cuomo you took all those cnn checks you didn't seem to have a problem with that anyway my point with jeremy boring is it's like how do you get to uh that's what that idiot of adam susnick said to me in the debate you're just doing this for clicks and i was like dude we're all in front of a camera right now like jeremy be boring.

1:05:41You're in front of a camera. You're trying to get clicks. Do you want more clicks or less clicks? You want more, right? Okay. So what is that? So you're just going to say, oh, the motives of anyone who's against the global war on terrorism is that they just want clicks. But the goal of anybody who's trying to rehabilitate the image of these catastrophic wars, they could only be doing that out of the goodness of their heart or something like that. Notice, not only is he trying to rehabilitate this thing in the face of this, the latest war in the global war on terrorism, which is in some ways a unique catastrophe even compared to the others.

1:06:16He's trying to rehabilitate this image and he's coming with no argument, no argument, pure emotionalism, and then a shot at the integrity of anyone who's against it. Well, Jeremy Boring, okay, there's a reason why you weren't the front man for Daily Wire. There's a reason why you didn't make it in Hollywood like you wanted to. And there's a reason why this shit ain't going to work. As long as I got breath in my lungs, I'm going to make sure I smack this shit down. Um, all right. That's our show for today. Thank you guys very much. Come out Dallas at Fort Worth this weekend. Really looking forward to it.

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