In short
The hosts discuss U.S.-Iran escalation (U.S. strikes on Iran-linked targets, Iran’s retaliatory attacks on U.S. bases in Jordan/UAE, and disputed claims about effectiveness), the failure of “economic D-day” pressure, and broader skepticism about war messaging. They also debate Steve Bannon’s claim that Trump can run for a third term despite the 22nd Amendment, arguing it’s legally barred and politically implausible. They add commentary on Venezuela oil deal cheerleading and on Netanyahu openly claiming he pushed the U.S. into war.
Guests
No episode guests are interviewed. Hosts are Dave Smith and Robbie Bernstein.
Guest backgrounds
N/A (no guests).
Key claims
Economic pressure and prior claims (e.g., mines cleared, depleted missile stocks, uranium/enriched-uranium concessions, Strait of Hormuz opening) are portrayed as repeatedly false or premature. Trump’s strategy is framed as “winning the 24-hour news cycle” rather than achieving durable outcomes. Bannon’s third-term argument is called delusional/flailing; constitutional amendment would require major congressional control and a supermajority. Netanyahu’s rhetoric is cited as evidence of foreign leaders influencing U.S. war policy.
Notable examples
Strait of Hormuz joint proposal by Oman and Iran; a ship hitting a mine after “mines cleared” claims; Venezuela oil investment timing/uncertainty; Bannon on Bill Maher citing the 22nd Amendment; Netanyahu bragging about pushing the U.S. into war and regime-change aims.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOWeekend Recap and Comedy Highlights
0:45 to 4:40
Dave recaps his weekend adventures in comedy, sharing experiences and performances.
“but it's like, but I liked him going up front.”
Discussion on U.S.-Iran Relations
4:40 to 8:46
The hosts discuss recent escalations in U.S.-Iran tensions and their implications.
“The Iranians vowed to respond and they did.”
Analyzing U.S. Foreign Policy and Venezuela
9:51 to 14:02
The hosts analyze recent U.S. foreign policy actions towards Venezuela and their implications.
“All right, let's get back into the show.”
Analyzing the Morality of War in Venezuela
14:02 to 16:48
Discussion on the moral implications of U.S. military actions in Venezuela and the political landscape.
“With the United States military And stealing this country's oil Maybe that's what the plan is But they don't say it Well, it's also just like, right, there's there's a few layers to this.”
The Complexity of U.S.-Iran Relations
16:48 to 21:12
Exploration of the U.S. approach to Iran and the challenges of economic pressure.
“No one's even pretending they had plans to attack us.”
The Reasonableness of Iranian Leadership
21:12 to 23:38
Critique of U.S. leadership compared to a measured response from the Iranian foreign minister.
“You know, Iran might say, hey, we can't just sit here and play tit for tat anymore.”
Steve Bannon on Bill Maher's Show
25:07 to 28:00
Discussion about Steve Bannon's comments on Trump's potential third term and the interpretation of the Constitution.
“Should we go, man, in the midst of this?”
Understanding Trump's Legal Battles
28:00 to 29:56
Learn about the numerous lawsuits challenging Trump's Article 2 rights and the broader implications of his continued political ambitions.
“Bill, every day in federal courts, right now in federal courts, there's 120 lawsuits on what President Trump's doing for his Article 2 rights on the unified executive theory.”
The Feasibility of a Trump Third Term
29:56 to 32:07
Explore the arguments and counterarguments regarding the viability of Trump securing a third term in office.
“If that is the case, it's because there wasn't an election.”
Political Dynamics and Election Strategy
32:07 to 34:24
Delve into the current political climate and the strategies necessary for Trump or other candidates to succeed in upcoming elections.
“I'll just start with, you know, when this first, when the storyline first came out of Trump's going to go for a third term, I actually had a big fight on a phone call with a friend of mine where I was like, I don't care.”
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Constitutional Amendments and Political Realities
34:24 to 36:33
Discuss the complexities and challenges of amending the Constitution in the context of contemporary political discourse.
“Look, government is largely dictatorial, all forms of government.”
Impact of Bannon's Statements on Credibility
36:33 to 40:37
Analyze the implications of Steve Bannon's assertions on Trump's potential third term and his overall credibility in the political arena.
“You know, like doing some wins and then having some Trump fun on top of it.”
Impact of Bannon's Statements on Credibility
40:40 to 41:41
Analyze the implications of Steve Bannon's assertions on Trump's potential third term and his overall credibility in the political arena.
“Football is finally back and prize picks is bringing out their best offer yet.”
Analyzing Bannon and Trump's Credibility
42:00 to 52:18
The hosts discuss the implications of Steve Bannon's statements on Trump's presidency and how it affects their credibility.
“All right, let's get back into the show.”
Analyzing Bannon and Trump's Credibility
52:24 to 54:04
The hosts discuss the implications of Steve Bannon's statements on Trump's presidency and how it affects their credibility.
“But if you really want to take your health to the next level, you got to check out Superpower.”
Tariffs and Trade Relations with Canada
54:16 to 56:00
The conversation shifts to the recent tariffs imposed by Trump on Canadian goods and the subsequent reaction from Canada.
“You know, it is almost even worth mentioning just for a minute, Rob.”
The Flaws of Tariffs and Protectionism
56:00 to 58:06
Explore the drawbacks of tariffs and how they impact both consumers and producers.
“that actually is better economic policy.”
Central Planning and Beef Prices
58:06 to 59:20
Discussion on central planning and its effects on market prices, particularly beef.
“and real people will actually suffer as a result of this.”
Historical Parallels: Leadership in Crisis
59:20 to 1:02:09
Analyzing historical examples of leadership decisions during crises, comparing them to current events.
“Like leaders act this way when they're going down, dude, you know, you think about it.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:07What's up? What's up, everybody. Welcome to a brand new episode of part of the problem. I am Dave Smith. Of course he is the great Robbie, the fire Bernstein. We were separated for the weekend, which is always tough on us, but how are you, Rob? It's good to see you again. Well, before I plug porches, I want to hear about the mothership. Oh man. Well, what can I say? Look, I heard Shane Gillis drop. I did a guest spot. Adam lucky is hilarious. I guess he ended up opening Adam, Adam lucky opened the whole night and the whole beginning and Derek Poston featured. They were both great. I mean, they both did great.
0:42I don't think I know, but Adam, I've worked with a bunch. He's really funny and really dark, very funny, very funny, very dark, but it's like, but I liked him going up front. Cause it was like established a good tone kind of for the show, but very, very funny jokes. He was great. And also just, he was a really great guy, fun to hang with the weekend. Um, and then, um, yeah, Shane, Shane came in and did a set on a Friday night on the late show on Friday night, which was, which was pretty cool, man. It was like, uh, it's just nuts. You know how excited people are to see him and how great he was.
1:12It's really funny new shit too. It was fun. I liked, uh, it was fun to follow him. That was like a fun kind of challenge, you know, to go like, okay, now I got to go back and get them back. Um, but yeah, it was just the whole time. It was great weekends. uh all the shows were sold out a ton of fun met a bunch of cool people um and uh and then i i saw a bunch of my friends we had kurt metzker came through and did a spot on one of the shows too um and uh yeah it was a great time i did tim butterly's podcast when we were out there and i did uh kurt and dunkel uh kurt and duncan trussell's podcast as well so if you guys want some more content both of those were really uh did scott horton or rogan end up hanging out in the green room at all.
1:52I hung with Rogan one night, one night he, he came and we hung and then he had stuff with his family the other night. There's no Joe Rogan experience, by the way, for anyone. I know every time I go out there, people are always like, Oh, we're getting another JRE, but not, not this time. It doesn't always work like that. Like he doesn't usually record on the weekends and he was doing stuff with his family. And I, I, you know, so anyway, try to make that happen soon, but not this time, but yeah, so we, so he hung one night and then, And Joey Diaz was out there too. So I got to hang with him a bunch too, which is always, he's, you know, just one of my favorite people to hang around.
2:25He's a Joey just hanging out with Joey. He is like a genuinely like infectious person. Like he's just very hard to not laugh around. Like you just want, you just have a smile on your face when he starts talking. I don't know. He's just like that guy, you know? But anyway, yes, it was a great time. Thank you so much to all the fans who came out. And really, of course, thank you. the most to Joe and Adam Eget and those guys. Like, I don't know. I was about to literally, I haven't done it yet, but I was about to sit and like compose long texts to each of them to just thank them for fucking what a great weekend it was.
3:01But those guys have really always just embraced me so much and treated me great. So it's just, just excellent. If you're in the Austin, Texas area, man, try to get out to the comedy mothership if you can. It is a fun time. And if you're not, I'm playing backyards this upcoming weekend, I've got net Kong, New Jersey. Then coming up, I've got outside of Cincinnati and it's someplace in Kentucky, but it's right outside of Cincinnati. It's Melbourne, Kentucky. And then I'm in Bedford, Texas, and I'm looking for porches. Help me out here, people. I've already got these route plans and I've got gaps in them.
3:33If someone's got a porch in Long Island, I'd love to add it for this upcoming weekend. I'm looking for something in San Jose or San Francisco, Fort Wayne, Indiana, Austin, Texas, and San Antonio, Texas. All of my routes to the end of the year are planned. I just have to confirm the dates. And those are the holes in the route. So hit me up people, Speaker 5 6 6 0 7 0 7 do your thing, people make your magic happen. And then of course the next date that me and you got we'll be in a couple of weeks, the Louville comedy club in the Louisville, Kentucky, which we had a great time at last year, as I recall.
4:06So looking forward to going back there, come on, let's see if we get, we sold that five and awesome. Let's see if we excellent bourbon. That's right. What were we drinking last year? What was the one we had up in the Tacoma spot too? I don't even know if we should say this on air, but we managed to get ourselves a little taste of a Peppy van Winkle, which was a real treat. It was nice. It was nice. Yeah, that is a weird. Yeah. You start drinking. We start throwing a few of those back. You go, you guys might be breaking even for the weekend. Sorry, but we're yeah, not cheap, but very, very good um all right well let's uh shoot let's start getting into some stuff um what what can you say rob uh i i guess we should start with the latest on the war um because we are still at war and uh the latest is another um escalation round uh last night um the u.s uh attacked iran bombed one of their islands uh in the strait of humus uh several people were killed according to the Iranians.
5:09The Iranians vowed to respond and they did. They attacked our bases in Jordan and in the United Arab Emirates. There's some, well, there's contradictory messages from the Americans and the Iranians about how successful the Iranian response was. But once again, we're just kind of back in the exact same pattern in the exact same trap. Um, I thought the thing, I don't know, did we, oh, maybe did we talk about this on the members only episode at all, Rob? I'm sorry. I can't remember, but I thought the most significant thing that happened over the weekend, um, which really kind of puts things into perspective here is that the, our last episode, we had talked about Besson announcing his economic D day, you know, it's like this whole war, man, the whole seven months or whatever it's been since February, it's always constantly like bullying tactics to get somebody to surrender to you.
6:15So now we're bullying other nations about doing business with Iran. And two days after this announcement, Rob, Oman and Iran came out with a joint proposal about joint control of the Strait of Hormuz and fee revenue sharing between the two of them. And like, look, I'm not saying, look, obviously, Rob, it's not that Oman came out and announced like a big oil partnership or something like that. And obviously in the MOU, it implicitly, if not explicitly, essentially accepted that ultimately Iran and Oman will control the Strait of Hormuz. But I got to say, Rob, I thought there was something pretty major about the fact that we come out.
6:59The signal is very clear. No one is to do business with these Iranians. And two days later, they announced this major partnership. I mean, to me, I took that as a pretty obvious, like, you know, a pretty obvious sign that in the same way that these threats are just coming off as empty. Nobody's capitulating to this. That's my read. What do you think? uh well the second we're back to strikes uh my thought was well i guess the uh i guess economic d-day didn't work and uh who would have thought you know they probably would have should have done it from day one if that was going to be a good strategy but uh my latest read on trump i mean everything's a sat question of trying to figure out what what is even happening i was trying to dig into the venezuela thing for a little while today and it's amazing non-announcements and announcements.
7:48It seems to me like Trump's, the way Trump is operating is that he just wants to win the 24 hour news cycle without any care or concern for what 48 hours from now looks like. And so they will just say whatever today and it doesn't matter tomorrow. And it certainly doesn't matter two weeks from now. It's an absurd way to live. It's an absurd way for you and I to try and have to cover the news because they don't stand by anything within a 48 hour or one week window, but it's like literally just say something that doesn't make sense. It will be front page of the news today. We'll win today's news cycle.
8:23We'll deal with tomorrow, tomorrow. And I'm, I'm assuming that that's what's going on with the most recent round of strikes. Cause I can't imagine that they're actually looking to, you know, I don't, I don't think Trump's ready to nuke Iran. And I don't think we're looking to go back to continuous bombing with Iran. No, I agree. And at least from what's being reported, but I don't know that we have the option to go back to continuous bombing of Iran, at least not for much longer. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is Goldbacks. California just got its own gold currency.
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10:07Like, you know, the Hawks, all of them, they celebrate at the tiniest little thing before there's even actually a victory. It's like it's like it reminds me literally of whatever it was now, like four months ago when Donald Trump just announced that we had a deal that was completely made up. The deal was that remember, the deal was that the Iranians are going to hand all the enriched uranium over to U.S. forces and then open the strait tomorrow. None of this was real. The Hawks spent the day celebrating the win. the day. Donald Trump's huge victory in Iran. Then tomorrow, it turns out that it's complete lies.
10:41The strait isn't open. We're not getting the enriched uranium. And they all just act like it never happened. And like, it's anyway, with the Venezuela, it's like, he makes an announcement. We're getting all this oil and they go, aha, we won. It's right. We, we, we don't even have to wait to see if it pans out at all. It's just for the, you know, one example of this, I, there was, I'm, I'm blanking on the guy's name, but there was an admiral, someone in the military. Did you see this rub last week. And there was much fanfare about this, of course, from all the hawks. He said that we've cleared the straight out of mines.
11:11It's no more mines. The hawks were celebrating. So there you go. Now, Rob, think about how pathetic this is, right? Like the war goals, we haven't gotten the enriched uranium. We haven't ended their nuclear program. We haven't stopped their support for, for Hasbro. We haven't gotten rid of their missile programs and we haven't opened the straight of Hormuz, but we got the mines out of the straight of it's already pretty pathetic to be bragging about until yesterday, Rob, when a ship hit another mine. And so I like, that's being reported. So again, I don't know, like when it comes to these things, I'm not trying to overstate what I know here.
11:45I don't know, like maybe they have gotten a lot of the minds out. Maybe there was just one more there. And like the spirit of what that Admiral was saying was true, but it sure does seem like they're just lying to us again. Sure. Seems like you said there were no more mines there. And now there's another mine. Uh, you know, I mean, if you remember Rob, you know, cause like with all these wars, there's the talking points that go away, but a huge, huge talking point, Rob, from the first month of the war was how a depleted Iranian missiles were. Remember, remember when they kept talking about 75 % of their missiles, 85 % of their missiles are gone.
12:24That was month one. We're six months later, they're still firing off missiles. So again, it's just, it seems like with the whole war, it's like one thing after another, after another, after another is just like, it's just being exposed. This is all bullshit. None of this is working and we're just still right here. Can I go off topic for a second on the Venezuela thing? Sure, absolutely. I can't believe, listen, I'll define myself as medium stupid, but usually my reading comprehension is decent. And it's amazing to me sometimes when I'm reading stuff from Trump and I'm like, I don't even understand what I'm reading.
13:03So just to give the broad strokes on why the Venezuela thing makes no sense is that, at least from what I understand, Venezuela oil is basically break even if the global oil price is around$80 a barrel and you're not going to see it for five years. So you're talking about someone making a massive investment, assuming that oil prices are not coming down five years from now. And that also with that, whoever's the Venezuela partner or government is going to respect that you've made the investment in there and that that's your oil. Now, you also have basically we're partnering with some random billionaire in Venezuela.
13:34We're somehow putting up none of the money, but we're 50 percent partner in the oil venture. And no one I haven't under There's no clear explanation to me yet On how this is moving forward Or where the money's coming from The only thing that might make sense Which I guess they won't say Is that we've got a random billionaire over there Who's basically going to seize Venezuela's oil He's going to put up the money for development And we're going to recognize it as his oil And so it's worth him partnering With the United States military And stealing this country's oil Maybe that's what the plan is But they don't say it Well, it's also just like, right, there's there's a few layers to this.
14:13Like, I think you're I agree with everything you just said there. Look, I mean, you're talking about a five year out investment. There's also I mean, you're taking a big gamble on the political stability of Venezuela. We have no idea where Venezuela will be in five years. But it's just also interesting that like, I don't know, man, there's something truly sickening and just morally disgusting about. Well, I mean, I guess about any of the way people cheerlead war. But it's like, dude, you sold this war off drug boats, off fucking, you know, the idea that like they were responsible for fentanyl deaths.
14:53You saw like it was not so like and yes, OK, fine. Donald Trump did say we'll take their oil a bunch. But like, like, OK, right. You've got nothing here. We haven't shown at all that this is going to work. This is Donald Trump is saying something. Take that for what it's worth. We have no idea whether we'll ever see any profit off of any of this. But it's also just like so you're just it's amazing that the little support that Donald Trump has left. His supporters want to like throw it in our face that ha Venezuela did work out while he's in the middle of another catastrophic war that is just completely failing.
15:33And this was like, even if you were right, you're still like not in any position to be like dunking on anyone. But number two, like, what are you even right about? So like essentially what you're talking, because this really is there is, you know, Tucker Carlson made a really big deal about Venezuela. And, you know, I guess I did too. This, and this hurts some of us because the war went relatively well and a lot of people didn't die and it didn't cost a whole lot. And so like, you kind of come off like, oh, you're making a big deal out of something, but it didn't go bad. And, you know, we would make our analogies at the time about drunk driving and making it home in one piece and going, Hey, it was still a bad idea to do that.
16:09You know? But one of the things that Tucker really made a big deal about was like how this was such naked aggression. I mean, it's not even like with Iran where there was the claim that they're developing nukes and that they would then use the nukes offensively. This was just like, like people are literally saying here, if they think this works out and therefore it's good, that there was a little puny country that posed absolutely no threat to us. According to Donald Trump himself, Maduro had offered him everything he wanted. 100 % had just said, hands up, don't shoot, please. And he went, nope, we don't like you.
16:42We got to deal with your second in command. So we're going to go extract you and go work with her. So we launched a war on a sovereign country that posed no threat to us, that had never attacked us, and that had no plan. No one's even pretending they had plans to attack us. But we took their shit. So that's a good one. There's something sick about that. I guess we've got a problem that China's become too powerful with its Silk Road initiative of making investments and trading in other countries and since we're the more moral of the two countries we have to go invade other countries and take their shit to keep china in check yep yeah right something like that and we're right like we've spent 25 years uh going around the world bombing everything and china spent 25 years going around the world with uh you know briefcase full of cash it's not a surprise that they're gaining partnership and we're losing it.
17:38Um, the, uh, you know, I heard another, uh, comment, um, who is it? Oh man, I got, I'm blanking on this. It might've been Rubio, but it might've been one of the guys under him. But one of them said, and I thought this was so, I'm sorry, going back to a ran now, but he goes, he goes, look, we can absolutely put enough pressure on, on the Iranian regime until they just can't take it anymore. And they're, they're ready to make a deal. He goes, look, we did it with Hamas. We did it with ISIS. And you're like, dude, wait, what? Like, that's actually what's in the mind. And I wonder sometimes, Rob, you know, like sometimes you're like, okay, so you're just saying what you need to say to win the news day.
18:20But then there's a little part of you that's like, well, you don't actually believe that that's a valid comparison, right? Like, I'm just saying like, just on the most like fundamentals of it, like ISIS at its height was like a few thousand fighters, dude. I mean, maybe like, you know, in tens of that low tens of thousands or something, Hamas, I don't know. We've seen the different estimates of how many fighters they ever had, but it was in the tens of thousands, you know, maybe 30 ,000 or something like that. They're like, talking about a country of 90 million people. None of those are nation states.
18:57Those are just terrorist organizations. Like, I don't know. So it's just, again, like, As I say with this whole thing, my position on this has never been that the Iranian regime is untoppable. You cannot overthrow them, and that no amount of economic pressure could ever bring this regime to its knees. That's not exactly my position. I don't know. I think, actually, Rob, people can survive a lot more than you would think. You know, like I, let me say it like this. I don't like, it's not like, it doesn't violate the laws of physics for the Iranian regime to collapse, like amongst all this instability and maybe the economic pressure is enough.
19:44I just, I'm a little like agnostic on the question. My, my belief is just like, it's wrong to launch wars of choice. It's wrong to go kill all these people. It costs money. It never does anything good. It destroys lives and it destroys nations. Like, but and also my argument is that if the Iranian regime were to fall, I think that's likely the worst case scenario. But in addition to that, I would just say, Rob, it certainly seems unlikely. It just really, really seems like a law, like such a stretch. You know, I've just read about I mean, dude, like. Think about the economic blockade of Germany during World War One.
20:22Think about the economic blockade of Germany during World War Two, the economic blockade of Japan during World War Two. there was still a military component that was necessary to all of that. There's not any one of those examples where they went, no, we could just starve them out. We couldn't starve Saddam Hussein out. We had a military blockade for years in the nineties against Saddam Hussein, a country, a third of the size of Iran right next door to it, a third of the size with much easier terrain to, to invade. And ultimately we had to invade and we had to send the whole army in. That's how we got them.
20:56So anyway, I mean, I suppose it is possible here, Rob, that like they're they're degrading the regime to some degree. But it just seems like, nah, dude, it's just going to keep going like this. It's going to keep going like this and they're going to keep surviving. And essentially, you know, the next the next round of this might be an Iranian escalation. You know, Iran might say, hey, we can't just sit here and play tit for tat anymore. And we got to go first. So we'll see. yeah and uh remains unclear to me why uh why we struck that island i guess they were claiming that they were laying new mines but who the hell knows yeah yeah it's right exactly it's it's totally i mean when your government just lies to you like so much you know i did see um the uh iranian i believe it's the foreign minister was giving a speech and he gave like a very um measured response, you know?
21:55Uh, and he really, he, he was really going out of his way to sound as reasonable as he could. You, you could tell like he's trying to like win the international PR game, but there is something about it, man. As I watched it where, you know, again, I know people like, like the, the fucking room temperature IQ response to any of us being against these wars is always like, you love the mullahs, you worship the Ayatollah. I've literally been just over the last five years, Rob, I have been nationally smeared as a Putin lover, a Hamas lover, an Ayatollah lover, a Houthi lover. Like I always must love the somehow I just, yes, I'm so loyal to Vladimir Putin.
22:41And I really just believe in the Houthis mission statement or something. But, you know, okay, so all of that is dumb. It's just not true at all. In fact, I really have nothing but contempt for all governments and men who rule over other men. But dude, it was hard not to listen to this, this Iranian speak. I just go, dude, he just sounds so much more reasonable than our leadership. Like he literally just goes, he says in the thing, he goes, he goes, there's a big difference here. He goes, there's two parties in this war. Well, I mean, I guess there's three parties in the war, but he was saying there's the Americans in the U.S.
23:15He goes, we're not the same here because we didn't attack you. We didn't want this war. We didn't launch a war. You launched this war and then you lost it and you just won't stop. But if you keep attacking us, we have to respond. We can't just let you attack us without responding. So how about this? Just stop. There never needed to be a war to begin with. And just like, as he's saying this, like, dude, I don't like Shiite theocracy, but how do you argue with that? How do you not go like, right? Yeah, this guy is the guy being reasonable here. And then our side is just making these crazy demands that we can't enforce to keep the war going for absolutely no reason.
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25:05All right, let's get back into the show. Should we go, man, in the midst of this? Here, let's play the Steve Bannon on Bill Maher. Did you, because it's just too, I don't even know what to say about some of this stuff, man. You know, I think we're in a little bit of a, you know, I think this happened during COVID a bit. Definitely happened during Ukraine a bit. Definitely, definitely happened about Biden's senility. But do you remember, like, you'll almost have these moments where, you know, it's as if we're living in two different realities. But you sit there and me and you talk to each other, you know, three times a week.
25:44And we sit here and we go, no, but our reality is reality. Your reality is some anti-reality. And every single time, every single time with this, it just took a little bit of time until everyone started realizing, oh, yeah, yeah. Because reality is powerful. The reality was that Biden was senile. That wasn't our take versus their take. We were living in reality and they had deluded themselves into something else. This is so delusional. I actually can't. I mean, I this is to me on the level of like an MSNBC host going, yeah, but wait till Biden gets his hands on Trump at that debate stage, which they were saying, if you remember earlier that week.
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26:30Do you remember, they love the narrative that Joe Biden had beat Trump in the debate in 2020, which was really like Trump just beat himself in that debate. But they love that. So their thing was like, Biden's going to go smoke him again. Bannon is as delusional as a Biden supporter thinking he was about in 2024 to have a great debate performance. Note, not one drop less delusional than that. So here, let's play. Steve Bannon, the guy who got Donald Trump elected on Bill Maher's show. The Constitution. Can I read a passage to you?
27:08Amendment 22. No person shall be elected to the office of the president more than twice. And yet you keep talking about Trump's. Maybe you should have this.
27:24I'll get you to sign it backstage. President Trump didn't bring up running for the third term. Myself and others brought up running for a third term. President Trump is going to run for a third term. And President Trump is going to be elected again on the afternoon of January 20th of 2029. He's going to be president of the United States. Okay. But the thing I just read in there, it seemed like there was no wriggle room there. It seemed like it was just eight or 10 words that said only two times. We have a team of people that are watching. A team? A team. How can a team do something about that?
27:59I don't care if the team is 12 trillion people. The words are still the words. Bill, every day in federal courts, right now in federal courts, there's 120 lawsuits on what President Trump's doing for his Article 2 rights on the unified executive theory. But he's chief executive, he's commander in chief, and he's chief magistrate and chief law enforcement officer. There's 100. And they're running to court every day to sue President Trump all because of the interpretation of this. the interpretation of this is open for interpretation. How could it be open? Could I have it back? I'm sorry to read.
28:34No person. You would agree he's a person. Okay. Shall be elected. He was elected to the office. That's the office of the president more than twice. Twice is once and then another time. I don't see what the team is finding. Okay. I will disagree. Listen, Bill. Bill. In 2014, you talk about long odds. In 2014, when I backed President Trump, when I was running Breitbart, they said I'd turn Breitbart into Trump Pravda. The odds there, he pulled at zero. Then later in 2021, after he got back to Mar-a-Lago, when Fox abandoned him and the Murdochs abandoned him, the Republican Party abandoned him, the odds were longer then.
29:15So our group, the MAGA movement and the tip of the spear of the MAGA movement, we've had long odds before. You know, we've come out winning twice and we're going to come out. We've got long odds on this. We're going to come out winning a third time on the afternoon, the 20th of January, 20, 29. He's going to be. All right. Again, on the evening of this debate, Joe Biden's going to come out and look sharp as attack. I mean, I don't know. Look, man, I will sit here and say this. If Steve Bannon is going to say that on January 21st, 2029, Donald Trump is going to be sworn in for his third term, I will guarantee you on everything I own.
29:57If that is the case, it's because there wasn't an election. It's the only way. Listen, I hate Donald Trump at this point. I think I'm as anti Donald Trump essentially as you can be. I think I'm more I'm more against him than a resistance lib in 2017. You know, I got good reasons, unlike them, but whatever. I can't stand the guy. I mean, I literally like I mean, I've never liked the guy, but I just I think he's the biggest disaster, you know, in modern American history at this point. I would love for him to run again. I would love nothing more than Donald Trump. If you hate Donald Trump's guts, there is nothing that should make you happier than the idea of him running again.
30:42If you are a Donald Trump, but anyway, Rob, I don't know. He's got no argument here. He's just pathetically flailing about how there could be an interpretation. It is clear as hell. Don't get me wrong. I wish Bill Maher or Bannon, for that matter, would read more than just those two sentences of the Constitution. But there's some other good stuff in there about who gets to declare war. But there is no legal interpretation that is going to say he's allowed to run again. And you are goddamn delusional to think he would have any chance of winning. Donald Trump, dude, like Donald Trump's approval rating is around 20 points lower than it was when he got reelected.
31:21In what world do you think you can be down 20 points and even be competitive? Kamala Harris would route him in a landslide today. that's the reality. So Bannon is just out of his mind and, and he could say, Oh, things looked really bad after January 6th or when Trump was just a celebrity, the odds were very low. He was going to win the presidency. Rob, do I even need to point out that this is different? This is different. He didn't have a track record of, of betraying his, in every stated promise. So I don't know. And you're also, uh, in those instances, not talking about, uh, tearing up the constitution.
32:00You're talking about just the odds of winning. You're not talking about the, yeah. I have a lot of thoughts on this. I'll just start with, you know, when this first, when the storyline first came out of Trump's going to go for a third term, I actually had a big fight on a phone call with a friend of mine where I was like, I don't care. Like we have so much time between now and the end of his presidency. And for that, even to be a conversation, he'd have to be pulling so high. The economy would have to be doing great. Like if let's just say Trump won the Iran war in two days and he ended the Ukraine war within two weeks and our economy was doing the best that it ever could.
32:37There would there could be a conversation about should we be amending the Constitution because this is the greatest thing that ever happened? Should be running his vice presidents that he could stay in office. That's and it would be a dumb conversation because that the rules, the rule and whether or not there's enough people in Congress or whatever that they want to amend the Constitution. You could just find out whether or not they're going to do it, but there would at least be a conversation there at the moment. This guy's not winning an election. And if you change the rule for a third time presidency, guess what?
33:06Obama is going to wipe the floor with Trump talk and talk about a fun debate. It's a, and I will sit out that election cycle. I quit the show. If it's Obama versus Trump, I don't want to do politics anymore. That is boring. I got no interest. 4. We're going to key West Rob. Yeah, we're done. I'm going to buy a little comedy room, Rob. This is what we're going to do. We're going to pull all our money together, buy a little comedy club, maybe not in key West. Cause they already got one there. One of the other keys we're going to drink drinks out of coconuts and we're just going to live in one room.
33:39Me, you, my wife and kids, that's it. We're out. We have very little money coming in now, Rob, but if you guys want to come see us, come down to the keys. No, I mean, look, I mean, none of this This is just, this is ridiculous. It's not happening. I wouldn't say Bannon's failing, flailing here as much as he's just playing a stupid confidence game around a stupid conversation. But I think the only thing that isn't, is a path to this happening is what you were describing is that Donald Trump just goes straight dictatorship and we have a much bigger problem on our hands, which is not going to happen either.
34:14I mean, I don't think he has control of the military like that. It's also just not like there are certain things that maybe one day in the future could change. But in today's America, it's like the idea of Donald Trump just installing himself as a dictator. Look, government is largely dictatorial, all forms of government. Even dictatorships are always really oligarchies. There's always a secret council that's behind with the dictator. And There's a so like I'm not even saying like it's that drastic a change in the actual mechanisms of government. In fact, Daryl Cooper was just making this really good point the other day about how empire and democracy are totally incompatible.
35:01Because once you have an empire, what do you think? You think the Pentagon is just going to let the people decide who the next war is against? Like, no, you got to have Pentagon people deciding who the war is for, you know. but in the consciousness of the American, if you were to just say, Hey, we're going to suspend elections and just have one guy rule over it. That just is incompatible to the way Americans think about themselves and believe their system operates. So like, that's not happening, but I think your point, um, your point was a very, a very good one. And one of the things, uh, I think in your kind of prerequisites that, that you left out there.
35:36Um, but, but I think it goes very much in line with the spirit of what you're saying, right? Like if he had, if Venezuela was a big success and Iran was a big success and Ukraine was a big success and they were quick and they were cheap, and then he was able to focus on his domestic agenda and prices were coming down and things were more affordable. Like if, if all of this was happening, well, what you're talking about, could we amend the constitution? But what's the biggest prerequisite for even having a conversation about amending the constitution, um, which would be downstream of those things that you just mentioned is dominant victories in the midterms, complete control of both houses of Congress.
36:12You have to have that before we even start having the conversation about amending the constitution. You're about to lose the midterms, dude. You need 75. Am I getting this right? I believe you need 75 % in a vote for an amendment to the constitution. It's not just like passing a bill and then you got to get it ratified by the states. Like it's a huge thing to get this. why there hasn't been a constitutional amendment in a long time um you know and so yeah look i think in in a similar type of thing i mean obviously this is much more uh substantial a substantive but substantial um substantive i think is the word i was looking for anyway they're like that's a big deal if donald trump runs for president but it's kind of rub it's kind of like renaming the lakes and the gulfs and all that shit you're like dude this would be fine as a cherry on top, you know, like if you were, if you were putting up wins and then you said, and also Gulf of Mexico is Gulf of America.
37:10Okay. You know, like doing some wins and then having some Trump fun on top of it. But when you just get into the dumbest, like trade war with our biggest trading country to the North, and then their response is just that they're going to reciprocate with tariffs against us. And so you go, Oh yeah, well now we're calling the lake, Lake America. You're like, you're just a gigantic. Like, what is this? This is absolutely nothing. Like you literally, it's not now it went from being a thing of almost like, Oh, you're twisting the knife after getting a win to now being like, wait, that's all you care about the vanity of it.
37:46Well, that's like, what are you a woman? Sorry. Sorry, women. I know there's a few of you who listen, but like what, I don't know. I just find that to be like a, you know, it's, it's, it's like these, all these things like, yeah, dude, this is the move after you've, you've delivered victories after you've won after when you got approvals in the seventies and how we go, Hey dude, look, man, he's got a 73 % approval rating. The economy's bum buzzing. The wars are over, but you're saying you're good. You're going to just have a disaster. And then I think this, this really is to me, the heart of it is like how delusional people like Bannon are.
38:27Your guys going down in flames and you're talking about him breaking George Washington's precedent seems unlikely to me. I mean, I understand FDR ran for president a bunch of times and it wasn't, you know, the law of the land until it was officially put into the constitution, but there's never been a president in, in who was the last president FDR. I think FDR was the last president who's served over two terms. You know, you're going, um, it's a hundred years. This is, this is goofy. None of it's going to happen. I also, I mean, with the, with the way that this presidency is headed, um, I think, I don't think Marco Rubio or JD Vance can win the election unless it's against Gavin Newsom or AOC, in which case I do think that there is a possibility for it.
39:13Um, but if Donald Trump sticks around and goes, I'm actually going to be running the party, I'm not allowed to be president. Firstly, he's getting old and crazy So I don't even know if he's going to be in a situation Also the age, yeah, Jesus Good point I also think Donald Trump played ball this time around And he's looking to take a part And enjoy his wealth I don't really think that He wants to do this endlessly And particularly as he's not winning at the moment And his whole thing is pretending to win I gotta assume even for Trump that gets exhausting You know what I mean? I don't think, you know what I mean?
39:46At some point I don't think Trump enjoys He's going on the news every day and pretending like he's winning when he's not, it might be more fun when you're actually winning, but the way you're currently doing, I got to assume that this Donald Trump doesn't seem, he doesn't seem like he's enjoyed this last year. It seems like he's been stuck. It really seemed like he enjoyed the year before that. And I, so, you know, I, unless they're going full dictatorship, which I think is a tough pathway and I don't think Trump will get away with it. This is just, I mean, what does Bannon doing? What's the point of this?
40:21I mean, I don't know. They got to get on a TV show and go, Hey, I'm still the most loyal supporter of Trump. I'm still absolutely so behind everything that's happening right now. I still think that we need him to be president in three years, even though it's against our constitution. I guess that's it. It's just some sales bluster. Speaker 0 0 7. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is prize picks. Football is finally back and prize picks is bringing out their best offer yet. New users who sign up will get$150 in lineups if you win your first$5 lineup.
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42:23And likewise, I just think the only effect this has is just absolutely destroying Steve Bannon's credibility for all of the future. Like, you know, and he, um, you know, Steve, Steve Bannon was a kind of interesting guy. You know, a lot of the economic populism, a lot of the anti-war stuff in Donald Trump's 2016 campaign came from him. But like, you're okay. So you're on record now saying that like what Trump, Trump's doing a great, he's doing such a great job that he should get another term. That's what you think about this. Okay. We've got Jeffrey Epstein's dear friend to say, I think it's been a great last year.
43:03Oh, that should, that should really be successful i'm guessing it's a trying to pull a trick here of people the conversation shifting to the trump supporters still think that trump is doing so well that he should remain president against the constitution instead of having a conversation about all the failures uh the problem with when you put up that much bluster it's a little bit like when netanyahu was making statements that israel or israel supporters were saying that they're the most moral army And then sometimes you just piss people off Because you're like, well you're definitely not that And then people start digging in and go Well fuck you, you're lying to my face The most moral army It's unbelievable So whatever Bannon's trying to do here I think is a It's a foolish marketing trick And my guess is it's going to just die out But it just I don't see this working And it just seems so unbelievably dumb Did you By the way I was about to say, did you see?
44:00But yes, I know you saw because you emailed it to me earlier today. Although I had seen it on social media. But there's this video going super viral today. It's the number one trending thing on Twitter right now, on X right now. And I guess the video is not worth playing on the podcast because it's not in English. But Benjamin Netanyahu has given, I think, what is a campaign speech over in Israel. and he's just straight up bragging about how he got Trump to launch the war on a round. Like, just no. I mean, it's really is just this unbelievable dynamic. I mean, Rob, there is literally no difference between the statement he's making and the confidence he's making it with.
44:47And what I say, we're both saying the exact same thing. Like, it's really unbelievable. People. This this is the dynamic, right? It's constantly this dynamic. It's someone like me goes, hey, the Israel lobby just unseated a democratically elected congressman in Kentucky. And they go, dude, it had nothing to do with the Israel lobby. Like that's just an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory. It's just that Trump didn't endorse him. And that's why Trump's really popular, blah, blah. And then John Podharris goes, the Jewish money came in and took him out. Randy fine goes, the Jews came in and took him out.
45:24And you're like, wait a minute. So it's offensive when I say it, if I'm opposed to it, but then you can just agree that you're dude. And I'm sorry, but this plays right into the Bannon point too. Dude, everybody sees this. Everybody knows what just happened. Donald Trump got sucked into a war on behalf of a foreign country. The leader of that foreign country is openly acknowledging this. it is crazy dude to me that like people you know think about how many arguments i've been in over the years about israel dragging america into war and that you might as well have the longest serving prime minister in israeli history sitting here going i'm dragging you into war it's been my life's work i mean what robin i'm not really exaggerating much he basically says that he says I had to push the Americans into war.
46:16I spent decades doing it. Thousands of interviews, thousands of meetings right from the horse's mouth. Yeah, I think later in the interview also says like we were surrounded by enemies. We can't go about this alone. And you just got to put it together. We're surrounded by enemies. We can't go about this alone. Luckily, I have a hold over the U.S. government and I'm persuasive enough that I can get on their TV cameras all the time. and I was able to push them to take out Iran and to treat Iran like the serious enemy that it is. And I guess that's a nice pitch to your country of, hey, we're milking this other country dry and we're getting them to spend all this money over here because we can't go about it alone.
46:57But then you hear that over here and you go, isn't that exactly what we're complaining about, that we're doing this on their behalf and that they're the junior partner and that they're bossing us around? And why do they have so much influence and how do we benefit from this? isn't this exactly what we're complaining about is now his pitch to his country is hey look look I'm able to get these suckers yeah yeah I mean this is dude it really did remind me of course because this is the same man um but if you remember that famous uh secret videotape of him uh also in Hebrew or I guess I guess it's not clear whether it's a secret videotape of it like It's not clear whether the kid intentionally left the camera running or whether they accidentally left the camera running.
47:42But anyway, there is a candid video of Benjamin Netanyahu where he's bragging about how he moves the Americans. And his own words were, it's ridiculous. He goes, I can move the Americans. I can get them to do what I want. And then he just explains to all of them how he torpedoed the two-state solution. and that he's basically that he got all these poison pills into the agreement. And so that, yeah, essentially like we had made it. So like, I forget exactly what he says in the video, Rob, but it was something like he goes, he goes, look, we got a defensive corridor. Yes. Israel has control over the defensive corridor, which he can define as whatever.
48:24I believe that was language. And then he says at one point, I think he goes, I define all of area C as a defensive corridor, meaning like essentially a third of the West bank. I just decided. way. So meaning there's no two state solution. You'll never get Palestine. You'll never like, and he's just on, he's openly bragging about that. And like, look, that one is at least he doesn't think he's being recorded. This one, he knows he's being recorded. Now he's speaking in Hebrew. I mean, they're very conscious of that. Like you listen to what Netanyahu says in Hebrew and what he says in English. And it is like, that's what he wants to tell the Israelis.
48:56And that's what he wants to tell the Americans, which, you know, makes sense. um but yeah he's just openly saying yeah we moved the americans we wanted this war and so we got it you would think you know now that the war is going so bad he'd be hesitant to say that um it's uh again i guess getting america stuck in this mess because he does say in the speech quite a few times that we need regime change there uh which is a different goal than you know what uh what what Trump is looking to stand by. And so, you know, I guess this is going, going to plan for Netanyahu. He's got us stuck in a mess. All right.
49:34I cannot, you know, look at, I did so many like high profile debates around the 12 day war and rather it's just, it's unbelievable how this always just works this way. Dude, the, I can't tell you, I mean, I know you saw some of these, My argument would always be last summer, a year and two months ago or whatever it is now, that I'd go, guys, Donald Trump may think that this is just about hitting the nuclear sites, but this is about regime change. And that is the goal of the Israelis. And that was the topic of debate. All the defenders of the 12-day war said, that's not true, Dave. They're just worried about their nuclear ambitions.
50:16Nobody's talking about regime change. This isn't a, what do you think, he's George W. Bush? No one's talking about a regime change war. We're just talking about hitting their nuclear facilities. I like, I don't know, a year later, now they just openly say that it was, of course it was always about regime change. I'm like, yes, actually, he basically is George W. Bush. You know why? Because it's still Benjamin Netanyahu. That's why. And so our government still has to be George W. Bush, even though the entire American people reject that and voted for this government largely because they ran against all of that stuff but you know i don't know i mean i i don't know what you can say about this it's it's just both with with benjamin netanyahu and with steve ben with all of them this is this is peak wokeism level delusions on the republican side now you know like at the very least rob right when you announce that, right, this, I mean, this is just real objective, real easy.
51:19If you announce the goal of this war is regime change, the people should rise up and take control of the government. We will be extracting all the nuclear dust. We will be ending the nuclear program. The strait will be open. There's all this up. And it's over six months later. And none of those things have been achieved. You got to at least admit you go, okay, that, that part's tough. So that's going to be, you know what I mean? Like you launch a war of choice and you didn't achieve any of the things. It's six months later. A lot of people have died. A lot of money has been wasted. Okay. Now look, if you want to argue, Hey, I think we're still going to achieve all those goals in the next three months and this will be worth it.
51:57Fine. But to pretend as it's, it's, it's pretending Joe Biden's economy was great. They literally said that as we had the highest inflation of our lifetimes. They went, no, it's great. So like, yeah, I guess they can look at this war and say, yeah, it's great. But that didn't work with Joe Biden. And it's not going to work here either, man. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is Superpower. You know, everybody always has a plan to get healthier and exercise more and eat better and things like that. But if you really want to take your health to the next level, you got to check out Superpower.
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54:20Did you see the situation with Canada? Because it is, and I know you said you hadn't been following it super closely, but just essentially, just to know the, so essentially Donald Trump announces these huge tariffs, like 50 % tariffs on a few billion dollars worth of Canadian goods. And the Canadians turned around and said, okay, then we're doing reciprocal tariffs on all of that. And so that's where we are now. And then Donald Trump said he's going to rename the lake and then started talking shit and all this. But like, I just look, I guess in some like I'm anti tariff in general, like I always said with you.
54:58And I think we had a lot more leniency at the very beginning of Trump's administration when there was some thought that maybe he'd do something decent. that you go, look, while tariffs are bad economic policy, in theory, you could get a government maybe to do something that you want them to do by threatening them with tariffs or something. Like maybe you can extract some concessions. And if you remember, Rob, it was reported during Trump's first term that at one of the G7 meetings, he threw out the suggestion that he goes, hey, you guys are also against my tariffs. Why don't we all just agree to not have tariffs anymore?
55:34And I'll do that because the point in Donald Trump's, you know, his vision of economics, I guess the argument being that like, we have to have the tariffs because you have tariffs on our stuff. So it's unfair that you don't have tariffs. But like, Rob, I'm just saying, if that's like, like, that's the best almost like use of tariffs you could have is to go, Hey, I'm going to tariff you unless you bring your tariffs down. And then if the end result is we all bring our tariffs down, that actually is better economic policy. But my point is here, some people, I suppose, would argue that, no, there's a benefit in tariffs because they protect American business.
56:12Now, me and you would go, I think, think this is a very flawed argument. It's just, does it, this is, you could go to Henry Hazlitt here. This is, you're arguing that the sun is putting the candle makers out of business. Like, I don't agree with that. I think it's goofy. That being said, if you do believe that, Rob, right? Like if you're a protectionist, if you believe, so you would say, well, look, dude, if we have, if we have tariffs on foreign steel, then, um, our domestic steel producers will benefit because of that. Now, someone like you, Rob, who's thought about these things, you might point out like, yeah, but what about the consumer?
56:48What about the producers who use steel? Right. So like they may buy foreign steel, but then produce things in America and now they get the cost of their steel with it. So like you have to, but if you had the mindset that protectionism is good because it protects industry, you would have to admit, Rob, with that mindset that foreign tariffs are bad, right? Because that's hurting your industry when you try to export it, because now it's more expensive for other people to consume. And so even if you think that tariffs help us, but their tariffs hurt us, well, then we just got their tariffs raised.
57:22So this also just hurt us. Anyway, my point is, if you actually look at sound economics, it could maybe be a reasonable idea to threaten tariffs and then get everyone to lower their tariffs. But Rob, when you just go into our biggest trading partner to the North and put a bunch of tariffs on, and then they raise their tax, that would be the exact opposite. That would be both sides just raising their tariffs. So what we literally just accomplished out of all of this was both the Canadian government and the American government working to hurt the Canadian economy and the American economy and Donald Trump renaming a lake.
57:56That's what he accomplished with Canada over the last 48 hours. And it's just on top of everything else, it's just like, guys, this is like painfully stupid. It's painfully stupid and real people will actually suffer as a result of this. So anyway, it's just at least as of right now, just the worst result it could have been in terms of a little mini trade war. I just laughed when I saw the headline because my takeaway was, Why are you stirring up this shit now? You got enough on your plate. You got enough. That's not going well. Why are we poking the Canada problem? Just, just let that sit for a while and solve the other problems first.
58:34Why do you want this one on your plate too? You got, you got a night. You've made enough of a mess out of everything else. And also the fact that he was doing it the same week while he's putting a pause on his beef tariffs, because beef prices were going up. It didn't really make sense. Apparently, I guess whatever, when you walk into a grocery store tomorrow and you look at whatever the price of beef is, I guess in Donald Trump's centralized economy, that's exactly where he thinks the beef price should be because now's the time that he's going to change the tariff because he realizes this is the ideal beef price.
59:05That's what happens with central planning. He didn't want any lower because then we could have been importing beef this whole time. And this is at his discretion because he's perfect at in whatever move he makes in any direction. And so this is Donald Trump saying this is his ideal beef price. yep no i mean look this is what this is what it all comes down to it's all just different forms of price fixing man it's all the interventionist government policy can ever do is just change the price of something and every time they're changing the price they're changing it away from closer to what the market you know equilibrium was which is where you maximize efficiency um so you know it's it's interesting even as you say that um you know you go like why pick another fight right now when And you got all this and it's, it is weird.
59:49Like leaders act this way when they're going down, dude, you know, you think about it. I always, to me, I always thought the craziest part of world war two was that after Japan attacked America at Pearl Harbor, at Pearl Harbor, excuse me. That was a nicer way to say it at all. Pearl Harbor Adolf Hitler declared war on America, which was crazy like we didn't we got attacked by a different country and he was already at war like he he was already had his hands full like it was almost you know in hindsight it was such a self-destructive move you know because then that then uh um fdr declared war again or excuse me i'm i'm so sorry i got stuck in modern american brain and i forgot that we were still somewhat of a constitutional republic, the Congress declared war as the last declared war.
1:00:50And they declared war on Hitler. And the fact that he had declared war on us was another, you know, like after Pearl Harbor, it was clear we're getting into the war, but it wasn't exactly clear. Like certainly, I think FDR really wanted to get into the war in Europe, but at least Hitler declaring war on us certainly gave a PR boost to be able to say, well, hey, we were attacked and then he declared war on us. So we're in this world war now, but like, it is kind of crazy. Like the, one of the things that's kind of fascinating about Adolf Hitler is that there were several points where he probably could have just chilled, you know, like, like when he, I mean, okay.
1:01:29He took Poland, England declares war on him, but he's got a, he's got a peace deal with Stalin still. He's not at war with America still, you know, like he's fine. He could have just held, he takes France. He could have held from France to Poland and just had it. Then he invaded the Soviet union. It declares war on America. You know, like this is insane. So it's like, I don't know, like it, there is something kind of interesting, even as you said, obviously I'm not saying Trump's Hitler. It's this isn't the same thing, but there's like this little mini version of like, as you're spiraling, you kind of like try to go for it more and more and more and more, you get more desperate.
1:02:03So you have to make a bigger move. You know, you need like, because you're down bigger. Now you need a bigger shot. So you got to take a bigger risk and things can spiral out of control. But yeah, it seems like a pretty poor time to just pick a trade war for no reason. All right. Well, we're going to have to call it a show there guys. Thank you so much for listening. And we'll be back tomorrow with a brand new episode. Peace.
1:02:36Thank you.
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