In short
The hosts discuss the shaky Iran nuclear/hostage-related negotiations under the Trump administration, arguing the “victory” narrative is unsupported and that Trump is backtracking on prior claims. They also pivot to Tucker Carlson’s statement that he will not support the Republican Party, using it to argue for withholding electoral support from politicians who prioritize foreign interests or enable war. They further contrast this with Michael Knowles’ claim that right-wing infighting distracts from culture-war threats.
Guests
No external guests appear in the transcript. The “guests” discussed are Tucker Carlson (media personality, non-interventionist right-wing commentator; former Fox host, now major podcast host) and Michael Knowles (Daily Wire commentator; grew up in Connecticut with Rob Bernstein; Jewish).
Key claims
The Iran deal is a memorandum with only 60 days and is “rocky”; Trump’s “nuclear honesty/inspections/infinity” and “no blockade” claims are disputed or not in writing; media coverage is criticized by both sides. Tucker’s refusal to vote Republican is framed as a major warning sign. Voting should be conditional (“carrot and stick”) to punish war-promoting politicians.
Notable examples
Trump’s quoted statements about inspections and keeping the Hormuz Strait open; JD Vance’s argument about humanitarian funding being in the agreement; references to Obama-era nuclear inspections; Tucker’s “loyalty to a foreign country” critique; Michael Knowles’ “podcasters vs commander-in-chief” framing.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOUpcoming Tour Dates and Locations
0:45 to 1:58
The hosts discuss their upcoming comedy tour stops in various cities across the U.S.
“You can check them all out all over the country.”
Trump's Negotiation Challenges
1:58 to 5:26
Discussion on Donald Trump's attempts to negotiate a deal and the pressures he faces in the context of international relations.
“Well, Donald Trump is, look, you got to kind of give him, I guess, a little bit of a pass on this, but Donald Trump's trying to thread a needle of how to get this deal done, how to get through.”
Media Perception and Public Response
5:26 to 11:10
The hosts analyze the public and media's reception of Trump's negotiating tactics and the implications of perceived victories.
“Just keep talking about how devastating the economy is being hit and how much we need to open the straight.”
Negotiations and Self-Appraisal
14:14 to 16:22
Discussion on the necessity of honest self-appraisal in negotiations, particularly regarding U.S. foreign policy and Trump administration claims.
“Listen, I'll tell you, man, they'd be better off, like in the same way with negotiations, say with the negotiations with Iran, right?”
Tucker Carlson's Critique of the Republican Party
16:23 to 18:50
Analysis of Tucker Carlson's recent statements on the Republican Party's loyalty and the implications of his position.
“What, what are you, what is there here to brag about?”
The Impact of Tucker's Statements
18:51 to 21:00
Exploration of the significance of Carlson's disavowal of the Republican Party and its potential effects on other voters.
“we kind of in a way get a seat at the table because Tucker Carlson is, you know, nobody else.”
Consequences of Voter Loyalty
21:01 to 24:42
Discussion on the necessity of holding political parties accountable through voter loyalty and the consequences of blind support.
“I thought it was particularly interesting that it's coming out now, that he's saying it now in this moment.”
Boundaries in Political Relationships
24:43 to 28:04
Examination of the importance of establishing boundaries in political allegiances, referencing Trump's actions and their effects on his supporters.
“the worst of which is, you know, potentially tech censorship and just more socialism for very stupid causes.”
The Republican Party's Betrayal
28:04 to 32:40
Discussion on the breaking of promises by Donald Trump and the Republican Party's failures.
“There have to be some lines you can't cross or we can't continue this relationship or you know what I mean?”
Infighting on the Right
33:54 to 42:04
Analysis of the internal conflicts within the Republican Party and its implications.
“So I wanted to go through it because I have seen this, this seems to me to be, and again, I know I'm poisoning the well here, but I'll let you hear Michael's argument.”
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Critique of Republican Support
42:04 to 45:54
Exploring the issues with blindly supporting Republican candidates over substantial concerns.
“but he was so much better on all the most important issues, it would make sense to go, dude, what are you doing?”
Consequences of Republican Wins
47:31 to 56:00
Discussing the potential ramifications of Republican victories and Trump's influence on foreign policy.
“Let's just say that the Republicans ran a very successful campaign of, Hey, we got to keep the Democrats in check.”
Negotiating with Pakistan
56:00 to 57:18
Learn about the complexities and strategies in diplomatic negotiations.
“Vance is being pleasant in the negotiations, but he's saying nice things about Pakistan and nice things about their leadership because that's what you do when negotiations.”
Infighting Among Conservatives
57:18 to 58:38
Explore the tensions and divisions within the conservative movement.
“And everyone knows that like straight up.”
Coalition Dynamics and Political Support
58:38 to 1:01:38
Understand the role of coalition dynamics in political negotiations.
“great so it's like a hostage negotiation of that we're stuck with you you got to give me a better pitch for, uh, for, you know, for, for me to push support or that you guys are the better option.”
The State of American Foreign Policy
1:01:38 to 1:04:18
Discuss the implications of American foreign policy decisions and their impacts.
“We also think this war in Iran is insane and criminal.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:06What's up? What's up, everybody? Welcome to a brand new episode of part of the problem. I am Dave Smith. He is Robbie the fire Bernstein. We were here yesterday, Rob. We sat right here in these seats and the world was crazy, but today it's been all figured out. Now it was quick. That's what's nice about the Trump administration. There you go. He figured it out and he blew it again. What's happened between in the last 24 hours. Oh, Rob, things are still things are still going pretty crazy. Luckily, that's what keeps this show in business. How are you doing today? I'm doing well. And Porch is this weekend, Raleigh, North Carolina, Hampton, North Carolina, Myrtle Beach, and then a lot of dates.
0:49You can go to PorchStore.com. You can check them all out all over the country. And then you and I, we got some stuff coming up. Oh, yeah, we'll be in Houston, Texas that's our next stop Houston Texas uh looking forward to that here I should um we got a few we got many things coming up let me uh read them off here uh yeah Houston Texas coming up July 9th 10th and 11th uh then um Huntsville Alabama Nashville Tennessee I will be speaking at the Young Americans for Liberty event in Cincinnati Ohio by the way this summer as well um me and Rob We'll be doing comedy in Fort Lauderdale, Appleton, Wisconsin, Austin, Texas, Louisville, Kentucky, Fort Worth, Texas, Dallas, Texas.
1:30Did I say it wrong? Louisville. Louisville. All over the place. Comicdavesmith.com. But Houston, Texas. That's our next date coming up. I got to say my favorite barbecue spot in Texas is in Houston. So I'm always excited to go there. I don't know the name of it, but I know where it is. I don't know the name of it, but I always know how to re-find it. That's the way I clock information. I got an internal fat guy map. All right. I like that. There you go. You just got to go off the, like the smells, the memory. That's very sensory. Okay. I respect that. All right, Rob. Well, Donald Trump is, look, you got to kind of give him, I guess, a little bit of a pass on this, but Donald Trump's trying to thread a needle of how to get this deal done, how to get through.
2:15I mean, it is, let's just say, Rob, we have a memorandum of understanding, right? It's not technically a peace deal of any sort. It lays the barest kind of structure in which negotiations can take place. And it gave a very brief period of time of 60 days to negotiate some very complex things, as we've talked about on the show, took two years to negotiate the JCPOA. This is two months, very challenging. Although I suppose you could copy paste a lot. But that being said, you have two months of negotiations. It's already off to, let's just call it an incredibly rocky start. The thing almost, the signing ceremony almost fell apart, according to a bunch of reporting.
3:08Things off to a very rocky start. Donald Trump is coming underneath enormous
3:17pressure from one very specific lobby, obviously, but also just in general that, look, I mean, this is the position we find ourselves in here, Rob, which is a little bit tough, is that we want to get this, get through these 60 days. We want to come out with some type of agreement here. We want to just result this to result in no more war and America getting out of this. at the same time obviously Donald Trump has a lot of vulnerabilities here because he has talked mad shit for a hundred plus days and now is backing off of every last one of the things that he said um but so he's got to try to you know look tough he's got to try to sell this as victory we always said this is going to be very tough here is from Donald Trump uh this morning Rob, despite the, sorry, one second, protestations and false statements to the contrary, coupled with the drumbeat of the fake news, which is doing everything possible to make the U.S.
4:21victory as small and insignificant as possible, Iran has fully and completely agreed to highest level nuclear inspections long into the future, parentheses, infinity, exclamation point. This will ensure, quote, nuclear honesty. If they did not agree to this, there would be no further negotiations. Based on this and other major concessions being made by Iran, I have agreed to allow the Hormuz Strait to remain open with no further naval blockade. However, all ships are remaining in place should it be necessary to reinstitute the blockade. Blah, blah, blah. This is a humanitarian crisis, he says, about sending money into Iran.
5:11So there you go, Rob. I got to say this, if I was advising the White House, give me your thoughts. This to me just seems very ineffective. I don't think this is good. Just keep talking about how devastating the economy is being hit and how much we need to open the straight. I think this trying to sell this as some victory narrative is just too. who,
5:41it's a lie. It's a lie that requires a lot of people to prop it up. And not enough, nearly enough people are willing to prop up this lie. It seems like right now, this lie that we won. And the media is just, they're just not reporting what an obvious American victory this is. What do you think, Rob? Well, on the trying to sell this lie, the amount, the contingency of media support of people that were you got the people that were against the war and you had the people that were for the war and the people that were for the war, not exactly for walking away. And the people that were against the war think that this entire thing was a mistake.
6:19And so they're not going to celebrate the victory of the mistake you made. So there's a very small contingency of people who can be getting on the media to try and sell this as a win. I'm seeing a little bit of a trend here Firstly, it's at this point for Donald Trump to be yelling at the fake news for bad reporting You guys have lied every single day about this war and what's going on in this war It's very hard to go, hey, trust me, they're the fake news And the information you're seeing isn't true And the writing of the agreement seems to indicate everything as being a complete and total capitulation and loss That Iran is getting money up front, that there is no nuclear agreement in place and now it seems like Donald Trump is trying to change the terms of the deal which I guess is very hard of the deal of to just you know give people what they think they're getting and then just absolutely walk back the concessions perhaps the pathway to victory is that Iran can now sell its oil and they realize you know what we're getting along with the rest of the world here this is pretty good and they actually do decide that that they want to do nuclear inspections or they actually do decide, you know what, we do have to buy medical supplies and wheat.
7:28And so if it makes Donald Trump look better to take the funding to have to go purchase that, we'll do it. But I can't imagine that Iran was agreeing to that. That's clearly not what that's not what's in the terms. That's not the way it's written out. And so you got to wonder if this is a Donald Trump negotiating trick or if he was actually buying himself some time to get the straight open. And they're actively blowing up the deal by clearly walking back, which was, hey yes we will admit that it came down to someone needed to admit that they lost and the u.s basically did it when they said we'll give you your money up front and now they're changing it to no we never said it's the doll hair presidency which i've said a million times i never said i give you a million dollars i said doll hairs oh i never said i give you your money up front i'll give you your funds but paid for in wheat and american medical supplies and soybeans that no one will buy from us right now and we'll send that over to you instead oh and then this line of oh clearly i never would have done a deal with you guys if it didn't include nuclear inspections so even though you guys came to the table and signed a deal that didn't agree that obviously i was going to do that so it's just common sense that that was included yeah well they didn't agree to it that's the point of sitting down and negotiating agreement yeah look i mean i think that much like look much like the way he's conducted the entire war, I think a lot of these are like very short term lies just designed to like get you off his back for five minutes so he can get his head above water.
8:57No, we're getting big concessions out of them. They're a great. Now, look, I would I would say that I don't think it's beyond the realm of possibility that you could maybe get nuclear inspections as a result of some nuclear deal. I mean, it's somewhat surprising that Iran has floated the idea of entering nuclear negotiations. Now, again, as you alluded to there, Rob, their red line has been that they get money up front and then we'll talk about all that. So we'll see what ends up happening there. The idea that Iran could maybe at the end of this 60 days agree to some type of inspections regime is not that crazy.
9:40I mean, again, they've agreed to this in the past. So perhaps they could. What would you need to give them in order to get them to that place? Well, that's a really big question. And then, of course, Rob, again, I mentioned this on yesterday's show. It's really worth repeating. Look, throughout this entire war, I've been saying, guys, you got to pay attention to what the Iranian regime is saying here, too. You got to read Dropsite and Jeremy Scahill and Ryan Grimm and these guys. And you got to see what that side is saying. And it gives you a big advantage in terms of understanding how this conflict is going.
10:11So not just hear from one side, but hear from both sides. Obviously, that has paid off and given a big advantage to people who have paid attention to that. Okay, again, as I said yesterday, right now, there's huge internal splits within Iran about why they should even be, whether they should even be negotiating. This is a controversial move. If you could imagine like, you know, everything's got a left right spectrum and even the Iranian government has a left right spectrum. These are the liberals who are there having a negotiation right now. In fact, Rob, the the Supreme Leader himself didn't even endorse this.
10:50He like he was very careful with his wording. He said he'll allow these negotiations to go on, but like didn't exactly support it. So, again, the fact that for Donald Trump to be selling already that we've got this inspections regime, it's like, dude, this isn't on paper. This isn't agreed to. This isn't confirmed, let alone actually being implemented. It's way early in the process. And I think what you said, you know, there's a very good point to your comment about how Donald Trump can't really call the media liars now because the last hundred days he's just completely torched any semblance of credibility that he has.
11:34What do you mean they are liars? This whole thing was sold off lies and then you just lied every day throughout the whole thing, including right now. and uh yeah it's true that a lot of the the people in the media are criticizing him uh for making this deal because they want the war to continue and he is right in a sense that you know a lot of them are liars but hey what position are you in to criticize them for that when you've been feeding us the bullshit you have for the last hundred plus days on the food claim because i saw jd vance going off on this as well that uh you know all the news agencies are lying to you we're not just giving them money if you read the agreement there's nothing in there that says the fund the funds can only be used to purchase american uh humanitarian goods which i guess is basically food and medical supplies it's not in writing then jd vance goes how dare you guys say we're just giving them money well buddy that's what's written right here and then of course the iranians turn around and go we never agreed to that give us our money and yet you still have jd vans going how dare you guys pretend that we're capitulating and just giving them the money it's like well that's what's written you guys have repeatedly lied to us about what iran has agreed to and they're not saying that so why exactly is your story more truthful but i guess that that's what makes this administration so infuriating all right guys let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show which is troll co great company thrilled to have them on board troll co was built by two guys from the oil patch who were sick of clothing companies pretending blue collar workers don't exist.
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14:31We got to just throw money at them. It's good to be honest, to have an accurate self-appraisal and know where you're at. And I think for the Trump administration to even try to be making this argument that actually we're winning, we're getting all these concessions, I think it's almost like you got to accept that there's no saving this. There's no saving this presidency or defending this war. Donald Trump would be better off if I was advising him to just point out how the media, the corporate media has such bloodlust, you know, to just go, man, I launched the war, but look at these guys. I mean, they would just have you fight the war forever.
15:13Oh, look at, oh, CNN's criticizing the deal. What's your position on what we should do, CNN? Oh, I guess they, like, he'd be better off to just point out how much they all love war than to sit here and try to argue that he's got some amazing concessions out of Iran. Again, this is, by the way, Rob, this is what you find yourself in a lot with this war, is you're getting into arguments over what the administration claimed versus what the reality is. So like Donald Trump is claiming we've gotten around to agree to new on the ground nuclear inspections. Well, that's not exactly clear that we've gotten that agreement.
15:50But Rob, really, even if we did, even if we did, I mean, so what? America's gotten this concession out of negotiations with Iran before Donald Trump had entered rounds of negotiations specifically where this was offered before. This is no big, you know, the fact that this is even the thing he's lying about to try to spin this, that I got a thing that I could have gotten before that Obama got before that, that the international community had up until, up until his 12 day war last year. What, what are you, what is there here to brag about? Yeah. Well, not only are they bragging about winning, they're shaming everyone for even spinning.
16:32this is not a win and claiming us all liars while uh you know even if we have it wrong the other versions in writing and you're not really presenting your story and that's just really gets me it's the bitchy shit of like how dare you guys pretend that this is us just sending the money and it's like well where's the evidence of the other storyline yep yeah absolutely that's right um all right let's let's talk a bit here um about you know because there'll be plenty to talk about i'm sure going forward about the very fragile state of this uh memorandum of understanding but the big uh the big i don't know news or the big viral clip that is really has all the uh the commentator class chirping about it is um what tucker carlson said uh in a recent interview.
17:26I did think, you know, this was really something worth talking about and discussing on the show. You know, obviously, full disclosure, Tucker Carlson's a good friend. I've been a guest on his show a lot of times. He's been a guest on this show. There is probably, you know, there's me and Tucker have different worldviews in many ways. I'm sure there's issues, substantial issues that we disagree on, but we got a whole lot of overlap about how we see the world and what we think, you know, U.S. policy ought to be, particularly on foreign policy. And, well, I mean, look, for people like us, Rob, I mean, Tucker Carlson is the biggest and has been, you know, Tucker Carlson has, he had the number one show in cable news for years, the number one show on cable news through the pandemic, the number one show, you know, up until he gets fired.
18:23In what was that, 22 or 23? He goes to the Internet and starts his podcast. It's become the biggest news podcast in America, substantially bigger than his show on Fox News was. And he's a guy who's got almost, you know, like really, really represents the non-interventionist right wing foreign policy. So it's been it's pretty incredible for us that we've got a guy like that who represents our view. we kind of in a way get a seat at the table because Tucker Carlson is, you know, nobody else. And this is also why I get defensive about Tucker when he's criticized by people. But the truth, because I think he's an American hero.
19:07I mean, and I think he's a very genuine person as well. Um, nobody else who's in the game in Washington, DC was going to interview Mike Pence or Ted Cruz or Mike Huckabee and ask them the questions that we wish they would get asked. you know what I mean like only one guy was doing that and that was Tucker Carlson he's been um relentlessly telling the truth and been great on the most important issues for years now I mean for for quite a long time but at least for the last six years Tucker Carlson has just been phenomenal so anyway this was uh let's let's go to the clip here was Tucker Carlson um giving his you know his thoughts on the state of where he is with the Republican Party.
20:01I would not support the Republican Party. There's no chance I would support the Republican Party. Not going to support the Democratic Party. I don't know what I'm going to do. But at this point, you know, how could you support, how could I or any American voter support a political party that's not loyal to the United States that puts the interests of a foreign country above those of its own citizens? Like that's, you know, it's not possible to vote for people like that. And I'm not going to. And I think I voted Republican my entire life. I worked at Fox News, CNN, MSNBC. I've been a consistent defender for 35 years of the Republican Party.
20:37I mean, very consistent defender. But there's no defending this because it's immoral. And it's exactly the opposite of what a political party in a democracy is charged with doing, which is representing its own voters, its own citizens, its own nation, and they're not doing that. So no, I'm out. And if I'm out, then I think a lot of other people are out. I would not support. All right, Rob. Well, I thought that was interesting. I thought it was particularly interesting that it's coming out now, that he's saying it now in this moment. Obviously, I think all of us are rooting for Trump and Vance to be able to get this negotiation done and get out of this conflict.
21:20None of us are really confident that they're going to. But look, obviously, I mean, I guess everyone could kind of guess my take on this. I've been, I'm a bit younger and a bit more of a hothead than Tucker is. And so of course I've been for a year, you know, calling for Donald Trump's impeachment or whatever. But I do think obviously when Tucker Carlson says this, This is a big deal. It's a very big deal. If the guy who's been the number one, you know, the number one right wing talk show host in the country for years now, the number one guy is saying he's so disgusted with this party, he won't vote for them anymore.
22:06And I think that's a really big deal. I think it's really good. And I'm curious to get your thoughts on this, Rob, but I would say just, first of all, there's, there's a lot we could talk about here, but First of all, the whole thing of voting, I think only works if there's a carrot and a stick, right? Even the way in 2024, the whole podcast circuit kind of got together, the whole Libertarian Party and the podcast circuit and the Maha movement, there were all these different little coalitions that all came together like, we're going to support Trump. And when you put them all together, it was like, that's enough to win the popular vote and all the swing states.
22:49All right. Well, that only works to actually get us what we want. If we will also be willing to withhold that vote when you don't give us what we want, you know, like that's it's like, OK, so it can't just be here's the thing. because otherwise, Rob, right? Let's just say hypothetically, let's say the election comes up in 2028 and we all go, including me and you, we all go, you know what? We're throwing behind J.D. Vance. I mean, fuck it. You know, J.D. Vance, he did a good job negotiating the end of this. And, you know, he's running against AOC or Gavin Newsom or whoever it is. And so certainly me or you could make an argument why he's better than them on a lot of different issues and blah, blah, blah.
23:35But the thing is that if we go, okay, you know what, one more time, the libertarians and Maha and, you know, whatever, all these different groups of people, the comedy podcast bros, whoever, we're all going to get together and support JD Vance. Then essentially what we're just saying is just like, eh, you could lie us in a war to Israel and there's no cost to you for that. You still get our support, even though you did that. Well, why, why would we be saying that? No, I think the message is this, even though we're supporting them getting out right now, it's like, yeah. How about, no, you don't have our support.
24:13No, that's it. No one from this administration can be the person going forward. I mean, I wouldn't, again, like I, and I'm sure Tucker would probably agree. I haven't talked to him about this, but I'm sure he would probably agree like i mean i don't really care if you're a democrat or a republican it's like about the person but like yeah why should we why should we support anybody who put some foreign governments like loyalty to them above loyalty to this country i'm not seeing it any thoughts rob uh i agree 100 it's good to have the red lines and to uh let a party know that if they cross them They won't have your support.
24:49And it's true that there are consequences to if, you know, Republicans by and large sit out the midterms or sit out the next general election because the liberals actually do have horrible policies that are overwhelmingly stupid and do influence our lives. the worst of which is, you know, potentially tech censorship and just more socialism for very stupid causes. But, you know, if if you just constantly if your vote is just constantly included in the base because you're just going to vote against the other team, you're never going to get representation. And it could be that, you know, let's just assume Massey's not running.
25:27But it could be that if enough Republicans just sat out the next election and said, F you, I understand that I'm going to get stuck with the Democrat, but F you, that becomes a cleansing mechanism of, oh, we really can't go out and we can't get involved in these wars. And at the moment, we've got an election cycle where it's literally best liar wins. That's the entire process here is that people get up. They pretend to represent basically libertarian values of freedom and anti-war. And then they get into office and they just represent the donor class. And I guess the one thing that could hopefully change is needing to have a track record of not being that person, which is a Massey route to victory.
26:10And that maybe people actually opening up that on the campaign trail, for example, of J.D. Vance comes around and pretends, hey, I was always anti-war and I'm I'm I will have different foreign policy than Trump. I've learned my lesson about these foreign entanglements. I will make sure to represent you. I got an end to the war that people will go, nope, you're a liar and actually dictate people who have been in Congress, Senate governors or otherwise that have a better track record on these issues. So that, you know, have actually proved that they're against these things and aren't just lying because this is what people want to hear.
26:43yeah well one of the things that was very interesting about tucker saying this is that a lot of people have speculated that tucker was going to be like a major force pushing jd vance in in 28 um you know obviously his son i think worked for jd vance for a bit there i don't think he does anymore um but this at least to me seems to be a signal that that's not where his mind is, you know, and in fact, he's like, I'm disgusted by the whole thing. I think it embodies, it's a great thing for the American people to hear from one of, if not the biggest American political commentator is that he goes, oh my God, I'm just so disgusted with the Republicans.
27:27I'll never vote for them again. Obviously I can't vote for Democrats. You know, it's just like, I give it like both these two political parties are just too beyond the pale. But look, when it comes to, look, it's not even just that Donald Trump launched this war. It's that Donald Trump, you know, Rob, I don't know. I don't think I'm crazy in saying this in the same sense that in any relationship in life, in any friendship, business relationship, romantic relationship, you, any person with some self-respect has to have some boundaries. There have to be some lines you can't cross or we can't continue this relationship or you know what I mean?
28:13And in this case, it's not just that Donald Trump launched the war after promising not to. It's that as he broke that promise, he he then also ridiculed all of us. I mean, dude, he insulted Tucker and Megan and Candace and Alex Jones in the most vicious language, promoted Mark Levin and Lindsey Graham. He said, you know, horrible things about Joe Kent remarrying after he had gotten his wife killed in Syria. I mean, just like really like he really, really crossed the line. And then, I mean, was just completely unhinged, was tweeting. He's going to commit war crimes on Easter in the name of Allah.
28:56I mean, it got pretty wacky back there, Rob. And so the idea that you would think you can do all that, it almost should be a given that like, oh, yeah, of course. I mean, I've been saying this for at least a year, but it should just, in my opinion, it should almost be a given. They're like, oh, yeah, obviously, like no, like J.D. Vance, Marco Rubio, no one from this administration can ever be supported again. That's that. Like if there's a Republican who, well, obviously I'm openly pushing for Thomas Massey to run. But if there's an outside, if he doesn't and there's an outsider Republican, if Tucker Carlson wanted to get in there or if there was someone else who wanted to fill that lane, I'm open to that.
29:40Hey, if a Democrat outsider ran, I'd be open to that. But no, you can't support anyone from this administration. We have to do that. Otherwise, there's no otherwise like look, I can Rob, I can respect almost like the agorist view against voting. I've made it myself before. If you want to argue that like voting is just a waste of time or you shouldn't vote at all. I understand there's an argument to that. But if you're arguing for voting or political action of any kind, then it makes no sense to not, when someone insults you this much, crosses the line this much, breaks promises this much, that you wouldn't go, okay, well then I'm going to use the only piece of leverage that I have to now punish you for that.
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30:30So that's what we should do. yeah and it is uh fascinating hearing this from tucker with the potential of a jd vance run the next time of uh hey i'm out and it's also fascinating to hear tucker because this is uh this has basically been my stance on voting is i don't want to feel responsible and i'm not going to empower the bastards so i'm a willful dissenter you know and make them make them earn your vote and if everything's just voting against the other party then you know you're never actually getting any representation. Well, I also do think that, look, from my perspective, and obviously, I mean, look, you get into like kind of complicated questions here when you ask when you ask about regrets or something like that, because, look, I made the decision to endorse Donald Trump with the information I had at the time.
31:17So if you ask me, do I regret that? It's like, well, I don't exactly know if I regret that. But like, given the information I have now, Now that sure might change how I would feel about that. But like, I can't go back and change that. Anyway, the point is, I hope this makes sense, Rob. But given the fact that I was a part of this effort, like given the fact that that's in the past and I can't change that now, but let's say I was a part of this effort of like, you know, like I was on Patrick Bette David's election day show and I was on Joe Rogan's day after election day show in 2024, like cheering on Donald Trump and talking about why we were coming together with this coalition with, you know, I was a part of a whole bunch of people who supported Donald Trump, who were like question marks who didn't typically come out and endorse either the Democrat or Republican.
32:08That ended up being a part of something that got him elected. Why would I not want now, given that that was the case now, wouldn't I want to even maximize the point of that? You'd want there to be a punishment now for not coming through on the anti-war part of it. Like that just makes sense. It just makes it that much more of an effective thing to go. Yeah. See, if you win these people over, you can win. If you don't win them over, it costs you hopefully cost them winning. I don't, you know. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is Brunt Workwear. I've been telling you guys about Brunt Workwear for a while, the most comfortable pair of work boots you'll ever own.
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34:34So I wanted to go through it because I have seen this, this seems to me to be, and again, I know I'm poisoning the well here, but I'll let you hear Michael's argument. But this seems to me to be like kind of the desperate plea of the Trump coalitionists, which at this point to me just seems to be like a lost,
34:57a long lost battle. Like the idea of even being in the game of like, let's keep this coalition between Tucker Carlson and Ben Shapiro going. He's like, I don't think that's going to happen. But anyway, here, let's go to Michael Knowles and hear his, for the rebuttal to Tucker Carlson. So you got the Never Trumpers going after Vance. You've got a bunch of podcasters going after Trump because they're complaining about Iran or whatever other policy. you've got all of i'm not even saying these are minor issues you know the the right always has factional disputes i'm just pointing out while the right is doing all of this infighting and and to some degree a lot of navel gazing settling personal petty grudges in some cases while that's going on the left is waiting the left is waiting to bring this back the left is waiting for the right to destroy itself so that they can bring back transing your kids that's what this that's what this is about this father's day just remember all right what can you say here rob this also to me just seems like this really isn't gonna work i mean even the language and i appreciate that he kind of stops himself and corrects but even the language is like what you got podcasters picking a fight with the president over Iran.
36:17I understand it's an important issue. You're like, yeah, dude, with the commander in chief over, what is this petty issue? I keep picking on the commander in chief for lying us into an unwinnable war and then losing said war, just devastating the global economy, costing us tens, if not hundreds of billions of dollars, Americans dead, little kids dead all for nothing just to be internationally humiliated but what is that it's kind of like a petty beef it's kind of like a what is this rob oh god it's he said she said oh there's there's the podcasters fighting with donald trump in the schoolyard over unconstitutional wars grow up we got woke movies to worry about grow up there's a black little mermaid rob please do culture war stuff with me not this yes yes the president the commander-in-chief promised no new wars he abandoned one of his core promises to his constituency and then mocked said constituency as he launched a war on behalf of a foreign country only to lose the war and be internationally humiliated and degrade our entire country.
37:43But the left still wants to trans the kids. Well, I don't know, Rob. You know, I mean, obviously, me and you are as against transing the kids as anybody else is. But the answer here can't be, look, you just got to look the other way over this silly little, you know, unsustainable permanent militarism war and crushing debt because there's some shit that's being pushed in the public schools. I don't know what to tell you. We've all been battling against this shit for many years now. Now, this is the reason why none of us can send our kids to public schools or one of the reasons why none of us can send our kids to public schools.
38:32But, yeah, I don't. Sorry. I mean, that's just that much more of a reason why we needed Donald Trump to be our defender and our protector. And we needed him to not get sucked into this bullshit adventurism. Any thoughts, Rob? Well, you know, it's an easy argument to make that the Democrats are actually worse. until you launch a bad war. And then all of a sudden, it becomes a little bit of a conversation of, hey, maybe we've been better off with Kamala Harris. Maybe Kamala Harris was trying to stick around for two terms and at least this was so risky, she wouldn't have engaged in it. So you kind of did the one thing that makes it hard to convince people, hey, the Democrats are worse.
39:16And so we got to rally around Republicans. Now, there's a lot of terrible things that come with the Democrats. I will never vote for a Democrat. They are they're horrible. I lived through the Biden years. I lived through tech censorship. I've lived through, you know, being flirted with literally being a public enemy, a person who I would. I don't know. What were the health terms that they were throwing out? A detriment to public health or maybe even a violent domestic terrorist with domestic terrorist, super spreader. You know, whatever the what was the thing? The problem is you, the unvaccinated.
39:52it yeah yeah and then in speaking out against uh global warming dei esg you know every my entire world view makes me a public enemy of the democratic party uh depending on how much power they have and how much they uh try and throw their agenda down our throats the democrats are terrible but you guys have crossed the line where it's now a conversation are they actually worse and what are we going to do to clean up the republican party so you guys don't lie us into more wars get into office and just represent the donor class and all the people that you pretended you were going to get out of washington and clean up so i don't know in my opinion is if you vote you're actually responsible you're empowering the bastards and so you know to sit this one out and let the republicans pay the consequence of the democrats coming back firstly you're kind of assuming that the democrats come back with so much power that they're actually able to pull all these things off it could be that the democrats have learned a little bit of their lesson that you know why force the trans issue this much it's very unpopular and this is how we lose support so you know you're kind of like assuming the worst version of the democratic party that they were just punished for and it would almost be silly of them the same as it was silly of donald trump to get into power and launch a war it'd be pretty silly of the democratic party to come back and instantly go oh uh we're signing we're making this legislation to make it easier to trans your kids, I, I, it would be silly of them.
41:13They might be that stupid, but it would be silly. I agree. I mean, look, dude, if you want to fear monger about what could happen if the Democrats come back into power, I'm not going to argue with you. They really pushed some crazy shit last time. And I wouldn't be surprised if they pushed some crazy shit this time. I do tend to agree with you about particularly leading with the trans kids stuff. Um, but again, this is just, this is yada, yada-ing away what the issue is here. And there's just no amount of downplaying it that can start. It's like, what are we talking about here? We're not, this is, again, this is all, I don't know, like this is all a matter of applying logic within reason.
41:58You know, if the case was that we had some very minor beef with Donald Trump, but he was so much better on all the most important issues, it would make sense to go, dude, what are you doing? You know, like for example, whatever, like if there was a president who like generally you liked, but they were a little bit bad on tariff policy, a little bit bad on tax policy, and like Joseph Stalin was running against them, and you're like, I'm sitting out the election. It would be fair to be like, dude, what are you doing? I mean, okay, you got your issues, but what are we talking about here, dude? We're talking about lying the country into war, a country that's on the verge of bankruptcy, that's on the verge of collapse, that, as you said, is on the verge of letting these crazy Democrats come back in.
42:41Well, this guy just handed it to them. So just take that anger out on the administration that launched this war, not on the supporters who don't like being lied to and mistreated. And you know what Democrats are going to be running on? It's going to be, hey, we got to not be in wars. We got to actually be America first and be spending money here on our socialist agenda and not on military adventures. hey donald trump uh uh um they uh brushed away the epstein files and cover that up we need to clean up the deep state and uh not be covering for pedophiles in washington and they're also going to be going after donald trump for his personal uh corruption storylines now in some areas they're going to be anti-ice and you'll see those storylines but there will be democrats democrats running for office as someone needs to oppose this president who is engaging in financial corruption and pulling our country into war.
43:34And for, for those Democrats that are running under that angle, I, I mean, I'm not going to be voting for them, but that's a better pitch than voting the Republicans who will empower Donald Trump to do more crazy, stupid shit. Well, maybe that's, listen, man, maybe this is part of the, what just gets me annoyed with Michael Knowles making this, this argument and with lots of other people, it's not just him. And again, it's like, I like Michael Knowles, despite the fact that he works at daily wire. I've always kind of liked that guy. I just, I think he's smart and he's well-read. He's an interesting guy.
44:03And lots of people who I like take this position of like, well, we got to support the Republicans because they're better. I just like I hate the idea of like putting the onus on the Republican voters to blindly support the Republicans rather than ever putting the onus on the Republican politicians to ever support the Republican voters. Like, why don't they have to do what's right for us? And then we support them for coming through rather than us always having the obligation to support them. And, and they, they flip it around in this weird way where it's like, what are you doing now? We're going to lose to the people who want to trans their kids.
44:42It's like, no, what's Donald Trump and Marco Rubio and Pete Hegseth doing now we're going to lose to the people who want to trans the kids. Like, what do you, you know, Rob, even as you say it, you're like, Oh, what are they, they're sitting here going like, Oh no, you have to be worried about They're Democrats, the Democrats and their socialist agenda. You have to be worried about, you know, Mom Donnie and Mom Donnie's endorsed candidates winning their Democratic socialist agenda. And from me and your perspective, we're just sitting here and we're like, oh, no way. Are you telling me? Are you telling me their socialism for Americans policy was more popular than your socialism for the entire world policy?
45:22OK, I can't believe you lost that one. Are you telling me that their wokeism for the kids policy was more popular than your wokeism for Jewish students? You're all the same shit. You're just, how about, why don't you oppose their woke socialism with individualism and liberty and being America first? And then, yeah, let's see, we could win that. We could win that with super majorities. But you don't want to actually be for any of those things because you're also a bunch of woke socialists. You just do it on behalf of Lockheed Martin in Israel. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is Prolon by El Nutra.
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47:29All right, let's get back into the show. And, uh, okay. Let's just say that the Republicans ran a very successful campaign of, Hey, we got to keep the Democrats in check. And so guys, this is the democratic agenda. you got to vote Republicans. And let's just imagine that the Republicans win the midterms in a landslide. Donald Trump will get up the next day and go, you see, this is how great I am. This is how much American support I have. And he will go harder on the ego driven, unresearched agendas such as tariffs, such as foreign interventionalisms. They will not turn around and go, oh, we fucked up in the first half of this.
48:06We're going to get back to actually representing you guys. Thank you for your support. It's probably I'm not voting for Democrats. I'm not pitching anyone to vote for Democrats. Sit it out, I guess. But, you know, Democrats getting in, if anything, will just be a check on Donald Trump's power, which is being used for foreign intervention and his own profiteering. So, you know, for the government to be bogged down for the next two years and for Donald Trump to just be trapped in a Democratic mess of everyone coming after him is probably a better two years for us than Donald Trump getting a landslide win and going, look, everybody loves me.
48:39Here's more of what I'm doing. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. Here, let's keep playing Michael Knowles.
48:48You want to trans your kids. So says the New York Times is just waiting to bring back all of the racial politics of 2020 is just waiting to bring back all of the heavy handed government suppression of 2020, 2021. You just pause it real quick to bring back all of it. I guess this is, again, just another point, like as I was saying, like from our perspective, you're every bit as socialist as they are. You're every bit as woke as they are. Like bring back the racialist politics. When did they leave exactly, Rob? I mean, I would argue that, yes, there's been a shift from like the woke racialist politics of, say, like 2016 or maybe even Obama's second term, say 2012, 2013 through 2023 or something like that, 2022.
49:40But then it's just become the Zionist Jewish identitarianism is just totally dominated since then. I just I just see it. I don't know. I mean, I know they like to call us the woke Reich or whatever, but they're, they're, they're just the woke left. The Zionists are just more of the same. Just, they just care about a different group. I suppose. This, it's also pretty telling of where this administration is at. And we saw this with Steven Crowder where the pitch just boiled down to, okay, there's nothing to support here, but you still gotta be on board because the other thing's terrible. So, I mean, this is quite an admission of, yeah, there's absolutely nothing good here for me to pitch to you guys, but just remember that the other side's really bad and is more your enemy okay well we're fighting over well we're fighting over what's bad about us they're over here and they're so bad all right here let's keep playing
50:34i'm not saying the right needs to sit down and shut up i'm just saying that as the right works out all of its problems in the lead up to the primary for 2028 what happens after trump As that happens, I am imploring the American right. Please keep some perspective. Your enemy is not some podcaster. That's not your chief threat. Your enemy is not J.D. Vance or Marco Rubio or Ron DeSantis or Ted Cruz or Rand Paul or this guy or that guy or this guy. anyone who might run for president this is your enemy this is the threat these are the people who want to castrate your kids these are the people who want to fling open the border these are the people who want to take control of your life that's the threat yeah they're not the ones that want to take me to war with iran yeah i mean like what do you it's like a weird thing like first of all he right trying to find this kind of middle ground like guys it's not a podcast or But the thing that like what's carrying his entire argument here is just the tone.
51:43It's just because it's not a podcaster. It's not the commander in chief launching an illegal war that he lied you into. It's not Pete Hegg, Seth and the board department. Why? Other than your tone. Why is that not my enemy? Yes. The guys who just like bled hundreds of billions of dollars from the global economy cost up the American taxpayer, I think, confirmed$60 billion, way more than that when they add everything up. It was like 15 dead Americans, hundreds wounded, thousands of innocent people killed. Why? Why is that not what I'm supposed to be against? well yes okay people pushing like if your argument is like don't also like you should also be against people pushing trans you know ideology in schools then okay i think we're all sold on that but number one and again i guess this really is what it's just like look if your argument is that dude we just can't be paying this much attention to what the fuck's going on with iran then i then that makes sense like if your argument was just like, dude, we're worried about like, whether like the Shiite crescent is fully aligned or broken up and whether there's now a Sunni radical in charge of Syria and therefore the weapon shipments from Iran to southern Lebanon have been interrupted.
53:27And if Israel can annex that, it's like, what are you talking about, dude? We got people trying to trans our kids right here. We got like lots of problems. then OK, fine. But why are we paying so much attention to Iran? Because Donald Trump launched a war there. So what the hell, man? If this is your perspective, then obviously you should be the biggest critic of this administration for doing this because you'll launch a war somewhere. Yeah, we're going to talk about that. And my God, if you launch a war and get it completely wrong and lie and lose the war, that's going to really hurt your coalition.
54:00And if your coalition is the only one capable of defeating the people who want to push the trans stuff on kids, then it's, and, and you recognize that as a big concern, then, okay, you should be against this dude destroying his own coalition as I've been since he's been doing it. Um, and then the other thing here, Rob is just that, like, we're going to look again, I like Michael Knowles. I like, uh, Matt Walsh, but they do oftentimes, it seems like, kind of comment on these things without touching the elephant in the room with the expectation that we're all supposed to not mention the elephant in the room, which is that you work for Ben Shapiro.
54:48You work for Ben Shapiro at the Daily Wire. I mean, you work for an organization that is a part of the Israel lobby, an integral part, and sitting at wall, J.D., well, who's making it out like J.D. Vance is the worst? By the way, hold on. Here, let's just go. Let's play what Ben Shapiro was saying. We played him on yesterday's show. Let's play Ben Shapiro's latest, Rob, as you got his guy there at his company saying, we can't be acting like Republicans are the problem. Here's Ben Shapiro. Here he was, talking about how awesome. Pakistan, they're just the best. They're a Chinese cutout gang. Pakistan is in the negotiations because the Chinese wanted them there.
55:31They're an Islamist dictatorship. This is ridiculous.
55:38Thank you about the Pakistani role. We love Pakistan. Thank you. We love Pakistan. He says as he walks through them, we love Pakistan. Do we? Do we love Pakistan? Just pose it already. Again, every time we play Ben Shapiro, you just see what a dishonest tool this guy is. What's he doing here, Rob? What's he doing? He's complaining that J.D. Vance is being pleasant in the negotiations, but he's saying nice things about Pakistan and nice things about their leadership because that's what you do when negotiations. Dude, in fact, Pat Buchanan's talked about this before, which is very interesting. But Pat Buchanan was a speechwriter for Richard Nixon.
56:19And when Nixon went to China, he had to write nice things to say about Mao Zedong. And he talked about how it drove him crazy because it's the most murderous dictator ever. But I don't know if that's what you do. Now, I don't necessarily love that. We could get into a long conversation about it. But you're trying to end a war. Pakistan is the country that's mediating the negotiations. What's he supposed to do? Go there and punch the dude in the nose and say your wife's a whore or something? What do you want, Rob? Rob, so this is literally Ben Shapiro sitting here just trashing J.D. Vance, just trying to undermine the negotiations.
56:55He's got no legitimate complaint. He's like, let's show a clip of him coming in and saying we love Pakistan. Like, what? So he's just trying to undermine that. So anyway, Rob, do you see my point here? How are you going to be Michael Knowles? Work at the Daily Wire and go, guys, guys, we can't have all this right wing infighting. We got this clear threat that is the left trying to trans the kids when your boss, the company you work at, the flagship show of this network is 100 percent dedicated to undermining the right so long as they're not fighting Israel's wars. And everyone knows that like straight up.
57:34You're essentially what Michael Knowles is saying in a way. Could we stop fighting about Israel? Could we stop all having to constantly fight about Israel? All right. I get that. But why is it that we're fighting? Oh, you work for an Israeli spy in effect, right? Yeah. I'm like, okay. That's kind of the issue here, man. We could, cause Rob, if it wasn't for that guys like me and you and Michael Knowles could probably all be together and just go, yeah, dude, we're against the left trans and kids. Let's focus on that. And here's the pitch. Ben Shapiro didn't want a big tent. Remember you can't have the crazies the tent ben shapiro wants a tent that specifically is israel first and so now your pitch is you come back to us and you go listen the republican party's gonna be israel first but the other guys are worse so you gotta get on board and well i don't know if it's the israel first ten are you guys really the better option for one and for two why do we get to remake the republican party as your smaller israel first ten oh and by the way you have to support us because the other guys are worse great so it's like a hostage negotiation of that we're stuck with you you got to give me a better pitch for, uh, for, you know, for, for me to push support or that you guys are the better option.
58:49I just, and there's also, look, I mean, there's something where, look, let's just say hypothetically, Rob, like you, you move into like a town or something like that. And let's say the town is like, you know, 80 % socialist or something. All right. I don't know. This isn't a great example, but let's just say you lived amongst a bunch of lefties or something like that. And there was like a vote coming up for stuff and you kind of just like accept like, all right, I'm not going to like win the vote on all these things. So maybe like you support a group of people who like agree with you like 20 % because the only people only agree with you 10%.
59:23So you're just like, all right, I'll get a little bit more. Like I understand being a junior partner in a coalition. This is by the way, something that a lot of people have said to libertarians over the last year, as we've been trashing Donald Trump. And they go, hey, well, dude, you're a junior partner in a coalition. So like you don't get everything. You get a few things that you want, but the majority gets much more of what they want because they're the bigger portion of the coalition. Well, it's like, okay, well, first of all, okay, fine. But then I still get to voice my opinion because that's what that means.
59:56You wanted me when you wanted my support, but that also comes with me getting to say what I want. So whatever. But then also, you know, Rob, whatever position you may have had in this town that was 80 percent socialist. Well, now let's say the town is 80 percent free market libertarian and someone comes to you with that same offer where you get 20 percent of what you want. You might go, no, not taking that deal now, because like, why should no, like you're the junior partner, actually, in this coalition. Well, OK, what coalition are we talking about here? Now, listen, I'll be the first to admit that if you're talking about me and Rob's more hardcore libertarian views, if you're saying like, hey, we should abolish the central bank, something me and Rob both believe in, does that have overwhelming super majority support?
1:00:51No, not really. Most people probably don't even know what the implications of that even mean. And maybe people would be open to it. But like, no, Rob, is that an issue that's at the forefront of people's minds that they're really thinking about, like, us abolishing the central bank and getting rid of fiat currency and instituting sound money? No, this is not an issue that people are thinking. By the way, take me and Rob's word for it. You should. You should think about that and you should do it. But regardless, what are we talking about here? Support for Israel? Support for endless wars? Support for the war in Iran?
1:01:24these are issues where super majorities of the American people are on our side not just this Donald Trump's coalition but the American people Rob why should we be in the like it's not as if we're in a position where look the overwhelming percentage of the American people support this war so we're either with the people who like the war or with we're with the people who like the woke shit the point of view that we represent me and you on this Rob is that we think preaching trans ideology to kids is insane and criminal. We also think this war in Iran is insane and criminal. You know who that represents?
1:02:05The overwhelming majority, like 80 % of the country or something like that. So why the hell should we not just like, you know what I'm saying, Rob? Sometimes this does just become like a negotiation in a sense. Why shouldn't we be asking for more here. The market dictates that this is where the people are at. Why the hell should, why is Ben Shapiro the major partner in this coalition when the people are with Tucker Carlson? Right? I agree. A hundred percent. Here, let's just play the last little bit of Ben Shapiro here and then we'll wrap up. I was praising the Pakistanis. To his field marshal in Pakistan, Asim Munir.
1:02:48I will say that since Field Marshal Munir welcomed us with the Prime Minister in Islamabad, I have joked that I have two very, very important people in my life, an Indian and a Pakistani. The Indian is my wife, and the Pakistani is Field Marshal Munir. And I've probably talked to Field Marshal Munir more than I've talked to anybody else over the last three months. That's magical. Isn't that nice? Isn't that wonderful? No, it's weak and ridiculous. That Field Marshal has literally called for the destruction of the State of Israel, which is our ally in this war, unless you forgot. Oh, so that's the problem.
1:03:21He's talking to somebody who called for the destruction of Israel. It's like, again, we're trying. The reality here, dude, is that we lost a war. The global economy is on the brink. The commander-in-chief who put all of his entire reputation and on selling the war has admitted that the global economy was on the brink. And that's why we had to end it. We're in this very delicate process of trying to negotiate an end to this thing. And so we're not living through a steep recession by this time next year. And Ben Shapiro is doing everything he can to undermine it. He's complaining about how the vice president has basic pleasantries, that he made a joke about how it's basically my wife and this guy.
1:04:12What's the joke? The joke is that he spent a lot of time with this guy. They've been working on the negotiations, right? What's the Ben Shapiro's issue is that he took a picture. So like for all these people here, like I guess just look, man, we're with Tucker Carlson on this because it's obvious. Like the move here is to tell the truth and to stand up for what the vast majority of the people of this country believe in. Why? Just because we're in the world of talking about the news doesn't require us to be sociopathic liars or political actors, as they call them, Rob. We don't have to go around here and lie through our teeth and be like, okay, because the lefties who want to trans the kids are so crazy, I'm going to pretend that launching a mass murder campaign on behalf of Benjamin Netanyahu and the Mossad in Iran is no big deal.
1:05:08Nothing, nothing requires that of me. And I don't feel like it. All right. That's it for us today. Come on out. Houston, Texas. Comicdavesmith.com. Come see us. Go follow Rob on the porch tour. Where are you going to be, Rob? One more time. Raleigh, Hampstead, and Myrtle Beach. Something like that. And check out Run Your Mouth podcast. That's it. Thanks, dudes. All right. Sounds good. Catch you guys tomorrow. Peace.
1:05:41Thank you.
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Dave Smith brings you the latest in politics! On this episode of Part Of The Problem, Dave and Robbie "the fire" Bernstein discuss Tucker announcing his end of support for the Republican party, Michael Knowles urging republicans that the party is not their enemy, the rocky start to negotiations with Iran, and more.
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