In short
The hosts discuss the reported Iran–U.S. memorandum of understanding (“we have a deal”) after recent Israel–Lebanon ceasefire tensions, focusing on what’s actually agreed, what’s disputed (especially money and nuclear limits), and whether Israel will sabotage the process.
Guest backgrounds
No guests are identified in the transcript; it’s a two-host discussion (Rob is repeatedly addressed).
Key claims
- The deal’s details are unclear because the U.S. won’t release the memorandum while Iran is publicizing its version.
- The U.S. and Iran disagree on whether Iran gets $12B–$24B up front and on the scope/timing of nuclear concessions (including moving away from 0% enrichment).
- The hosts argue the Trump approach effectively “capitulated” to avoid escalation, and that “strength” rhetoric is misleading.
- Israel is expected to undermine the deal; the Lebanon ceasefire is a major shared point.
Notable examples
- Iran claims: $300B reconstruction commitment, frozen funds release, blockade lifted in 30 days, U.S. forces withdrawn, Hormuz management by Iran, and 60 days for nuclear negotiations.
- U.S. claims: no money up front; verification-based steps; continued military posture during negotiations.
- Clips discussed: Ben Shapiro criticizing the process as a “giant L,” and Pete Hegseth arguing the deal differs from JCPOA due to military leverage.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOReflections on the 250th Anniversary and UFC
0:28 to 4:06
Hosts share their thoughts on the recent UFC event coinciding with America's anniversary.
“It looks like this, this one might be legit.”
Discussing the U.S.-Iran Deal Developments
4:06 to 8:28
Exploring the evolving situation surrounding the U.S.-Iran deal and its implications.
“All right, let's get into the latest on this deal, because this is so interesting.”
Discussing the U.S.-Iran Deal Developments
9:23 to 9:38
Exploring the evolving situation surrounding the U.S.-Iran deal and its implications.
“And best of all, it's$100 off for a limited time.”
Analyzing the U.S.-Iran Agreement Details
9:38 to 14:00
Hosts delve deeper into the specifics and implications of the U.S.-Iran deal.
“All right, let's get back into the show.”
Analyzing the Iran Deal Claims
14:00 to 19:47
The hosts dissect the claims being made about the Iran deal and the implications of those claims.
“Trump not putting this out okay just saying um if it's a really really wonderful deal where you got you know, did so great, you would think you would want to put that out.”
Evaluating US Concessions in the Deal
20:31 to 28:00
Discussion on the US's stance and concessions regarding nuclear capabilities and sanctions in the context of the Iran deal.
“The other one here is that the US has essentially acknowledged, Rob, right, that we're not getting the nuclear dust on Friday, right?”
Analyzing U.S.-Iran Relations
28:00 to 33:36
Discusses the complexities of the U.S.-Iran negotiations and Trump's military strategy.
“Trump Netanyahu is our friend and the Ayatollah is the bad guy.”
Current Dynamics in Middle Eastern Politics
34:55 to 42:00
Explores the implications of the current U.S. policies on Israel and regional stability.
“Okay, the point that we should have made before, and you had a good lead into it there, is that the other thing that all sides are agreeing is in this memorandum of understanding.”
Predictions on Political Dynamics
42:00 to 45:50
Discussing predictions about media narratives and political alliances.
“You know, like what, what can you, what can I say here?”
Predictions on Political Dynamics
45:55 to 46:56
Discussing predictions about media narratives and political alliances.
“Maybe you want to lose weight or exercise more or eat healthier, but without a plan, they often fade.”
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Predictions on Political Dynamics
47:01 to 47:11
Discussing predictions about media narratives and political alliances.
Analysis of Ben Shapiro's Claims
47:12 to 55:00
Critiquing Ben Shapiro's arguments regarding Israel and its defense.
“All right, let's get back into the show.”
The Complexity of U.S.-Israel Relations
55:01 to 56:00
Exploring the implications of U.S. pressure on Israel amidst conflicts.
“and Hezbollah firing missiles and rockets?”
Analyzing U.S.-Israel Relations
56:00 to 58:56
Explore the complexities of U.S. support for Israel and its implications.
“war and they were going to destroy our country.”
JD Vance's Defensive Strategy
58:56 to 1:00:01
Delve into JD Vance's comments on Iran and the implications of the deal.
“respect more about Ben Shapiro than the people who are just Trump cult followers.”
The Iran Negotiation Framework
1:00:01 to 1:03:06
Discuss the conditions tied to the potential benefits of the Iran deal.
“So let's Either order, doesn't matter, Natalie.”
Assessing the Deal's Long-Term Impact
1:03:06 to 1:07:25
Evaluate the long-term consequences of the Iran deal on U.S. military strategy.
“enriching up to it's given up on the zero percent enriched uranium uh let's go to the other the other clip of JD Vance here doing his best to spin this nonsense.”
Discussion on Accepting Loss
1:10:00 to 1:10:10
The hosts reflect on the implications of accepting a loss in a situation.
“It is a loss, but at least it'll be over.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:06What's up? What's up, everybody? Welcome to a brand new episode of part of the problem. This is a big one. We got we had fights at the White House last night celebrating 250th anniversary of America. And on that same day, I got a nice virus going through my house. The joys of having a young family. um leave don't ruin denver just uh just leave for the week oh yeah yeah no i won't denver comes before anything before poor god family um but then of course rob we'll we'll get into this we have a we have a deal um we have a deal well we have a we have a memo okay we don't have of the memo, but we've been told there is a memo.
0:57It looks like this, this one might be legit. And there's a ton to break down real quick before we get into that. You did mention Rob, Denver, Colorado coming up soon. This is like really up there with me and Rob's favorite stop of the year, quite possibly our favorite weekend that we did last year together. So So June 18th will be in Grenwood Village, Colorado, and then June 19th and 20th at the Comedy Works downtown in Denver. Really looking forward to that. Do you have some stuff before that, Rob, or after? On Sunday, I'm back at the Denver Comedy Garage where I filmed my first comedy special.
1:35I'm going to be doing the FBI presentation. So even if you're coming out for the shows with me and Dave, I'm doing entirely different material. It's been going great. Unbelievable weekend in Minnesota. Thank you, people. And then I got Raleigh, North Carolina, Hampstead and Myrtle Beach coming up next. Porchdoor.com. All the dates. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. And of course, comictapesmith.com to come see both of us out in Comedy Works. And I do just want to say, because I watched all that UFC last night and all of its shenanigans and glory and conflicts of interest and whatnot. So I enjoyed it. And the fact that Big Mike got a shout out makes me think the nation is actually healed.
2:12it wasn't it did make it worth the whole thing or that yeah look gotta say they were great some really really great fights and man it is hard no matter where you are it's hard to not get a little bit um i don't know a little bit moved by the fact that like it was at the white house it was the 250th year of america and that the american was such an underdog and won the main event was pretty cool. Just gotta say pretty cool. Every time they went to like the old war footage or, uh, you were watching the band. I just kind of felt like guys, I love this country. Can we get rid of the socialism foreign wars and censorship?
2:52And then we can go back to beefing over all the other small stuff. Can we just have like this country's fucking awesome. It's not right now. And you guys keep doing all this shitty stuff to it, but like this, you know, they keep pretending to celebrating freedom and you're like, yeah, we are awesome. And freedom is awesome too bad you guys keep taking that from us yeah it's a weird thing that even the people who celebrate it have to use our language in order to celebrate it and you're like listen i do love america and i do love of course how could we not and this is the country we're from we've we've all relatively speaking had great lives compared to most of human history and pretty uniquely like me and you have, I don't know, we have a wonderful career that we love.
3:36We have good friends. We have good family. We have all this stuff. It's like, of course, we want to just love this country and we get to say what we want and we get to speak out against our own government here, which is still pretty damn cool. And as you said, if we could just end the obviously idiotic wars, the central bank insanity, importing the entire world and like censoring and spying on our own people, then yeah, then we could all just be cool. That's really the central message here. All right, let's get into the latest on this deal, because this is so interesting. And it's, there's a lot going on.
4:16So of course, yesterday, it was announced. Well, I mean, it's, it's been announced that we had a deal several 1000 times. As we had pointed out about two weeks ago um there was the first point where we had said we had a deal and the iranians also said yes we're close to a deal and then this all went down so um let's go just through the timeline kind of loosely essentially what happened was um there was a um donald trump had asked once again israel not to attack Lebanon. Israel said they had no choice but to respond to a rocket attack that killed nobody and essentially did no damage. And they bombed Beirut a few times.
5:04Iran said there's a violation of the ceasefire and they announced that they're going to light up Israel and evidently started making some military movements. The U.S. intervened and a deal was struck. They both agreed that we're going to be signing on to this memorandum of understanding. This was first announced by Donald Trump yesterday, but then Pakistan came out and backed him up. Iran was quiet for a while. Iran has now come out and also acknowledged that they will be signing this thing. So now there are reports that they've electronically signed it, but evidently from what I've read, there's going to be an official signing on Friday.
5:43We're recording this on Monday, And so this leaves more than enough time for Israel to sabotage this, but we'll get into that in a second. Four days is more than they've ever needed, Rob. But so that's kind of how this went down. I want to get your thoughts on this, Rob, and there's a whole lot. There's so many different kind of like avenues to cover. But I guess at the beginning, I would just say that there are there's as of right now, there are a few huge gaps between what the Iranians are claiming is in this deal and what the Americans are claiming is in this deal. But there are some things that seem to be agreed upon by both.
6:28So there's kind of almost if you could think of like concentric circles, is that am I using that term right? Right. Okay. Well, like a Venn diagram. Is that what? Anyway. But if you could think of, you know, like there are these areas that what we kind of know, both sides at least seem to be agreeing that we're, we're, this is all in the agreement. And then there's some key issues that are outside of it. Either way, Rob, I will say, this is what it appears to be to me. I'm curious to get your, your thoughts on this and we can go through why I feel this way. essentially this entire war has been Donald Trump spazzing out.
7:08It's essentially Donald Trump getting tricked into a stupid war by the Israelis, thinking something that no, it's actually hard to believe that he really thought the regime was going to collapse and the people would rise up, but he said it out loud. And so that's what he claimed at least. And obviously that didn't come true. The whole thing turned out to be a goddamn disaster, just a complete catastrophe. Just needless just death and economic destruction and turmoil and a real reshaking of the global order that we'll kind of figure out over time. And ever since then, he's basically just tried to threaten them to get them to capitulate so that they would sign some deal that he could spin as a victory.
7:51And I think in the end, what we're getting here is essentially a total Trump capitulation. Now, I don't know exactly what level of that we're getting, but it seems to me, and we can go through all of this, but it does seem like that's essentially what happened, is that just from the timing of all of this, that essentially, you know, when they were saying the other day that 75 % of the deal has been worked out, Iran was about to light Israel up one more time, and this thing was about to escalate more, and the Americans came in and went, we'll just give you that last 25%. Let's just get this thing done with.
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9:35That's preparelikedave.com. All right, let's get back into the show. But anyway, we could get into more details around that. What are your thoughts broadly? All right. Well, firstly, on your Venn diagram and the area of agreement, I guess the biggest area of agreement now is that Iran can be believed when they say we're not going to get a nuclear bomb. And I guess that we're now in agreement with Iran and no longer running with the Israeli propaganda that these people absolutely can't be trusted. trusted they're the largest sponsors of state terrorism in the region they destabilize the region and any resources going their way will only be used towards nuclear destruction because these people are absolutely crazy so i guess we're now pivoting to the iranian perspective of uh we can be responsible global actors and so that is the point of agreement where this administration is driving me crazy and i've said this joke before but everything's an sat question now where you got to figure out where we are because they won't just give you the information.
10:34It's not clear to me that there actually was a digital signing. I've heard that there was a digital signing, but then I've also heard that the signing's taking place on Friday. I am really toying in my head because Donald, like, you know, at the beginning of this war, I couldn't believe Donald Trump was willing to pretend, hey, the war is going to be over tomorrow and then shamelessly have just lied to us. It seems to me like there's no way they're lying to us on us being this far into a deal when there actually isn't a deal. But maybe Donald Trump is so stupid where he just wants to win one week of news for absolutely no reason that he's ramping up the style of lie to sucker us in.
11:09But the biggest point of disagreement right now is the Iranians seem to believe that they're getting 12 of their 25 billion or 24 billion dollars in seized money forked over up front. And the administration seems to be saying, I don't know where they got that from. That's absolutely not happening, which still kind of brings us back because that's the single worst look for donald trump is that now he's got to give over money up front to potentially work out an iranian deal later i mean obama only gave them i think it was like 1.4 or 1.7 billion dollars now you're giving them the entire load up front without even having a deal and you want to pretend to me like that's better um so i i mean it's still i can't imagine that we've that they're selling it this hard and there's not a deal on the table other than that they're trying to pull the weasel move of, do you guys really want to walk away from this now?
11:58We'll get your money later. But it does seem to me like we're coming to the end and that Donald Trump last week was his last attempt at some targeted strikes to see if he could change the variables. Just one more point. The part that I'm most lost at is I really thought the Israelis must have had some very good leverage on Donald Trump that he was unwilling to break up with them and stand up to them i guess if he's now willing to do it then there wasn't blackmail on the table because we're not seeing it and so then therefore donald trump was just that dumb in his approach here that he was uh feeling high and mighty after taking out uh venezuela and he felt hey i can get this one done too and then just walked himself into a mess and just made a bigger mess of it as he went well maybe maybe i mean there's a lot that we still have to see how all of this plays out before we can i i'd at least be like i have to see what happens here before i can kind of even wrap my head around like how he would finally come to a point that he's gonna reign israel in But let's just go over this a little bit here.
13:05So just to be clear, Iran put out like to Iranian media what the memorandum of understanding is. The U.S. has not. The U.S. has said that within 24 to 48 hours, it will let us know. So then to get to some of the specifics you mentioned, there are some areas where there's very clear discrepancies between Iran is saying this is in the deal and the U.S. is saying no, it is not. But then, again, there's areas where they all seem to be acknowledging no one's taking issue with. So let's just going through this a little bit. Number one, I guess I would start with the point this is not a proof, but it is something that you might just notice.
13:45you know Trump is not putting it out and Iran is at least claiming to Trump isn't even claiming this is the thing we're going to sign and presumably Rob if they're doing the signing on Friday we will get to see it then and so it just it makes you wonder why exactly is Donald Trump not putting this out okay just saying um if it's a really really wonderful deal where you got you know, did so great, you would think you would want to put that out. You wouldn't think you would want to keep it secret until it's signed and too late. And I don't know. I mean, I'm open to other possibilities here, but that does seem to like, you know, raise some alarm bells.
14:28Also should be mentioned. We'll get to some of this later, but like the Israel lobby is flipping out about this right now. And so that's another thing that's worth keeping in mind. This is what Iran claims as of yesterday, the deal is, okay? They claim there's the$300 billion reconstruction commitment. Now, this is something that's been floating out there that always, at least to me, Rob, seemed like one of the most maximalist of demands of the Iranians, you know, like side of these negotiations from the very beginning. If you remember, Rob, The Iranians started out very maximalist, where it was like America has to completely leave the region.
15:14America has to pay back all the war debt. The Strait of Hormuz is theirs with a fee forever. They started off way maximalist. Maybe they've read Art of the Deal. I don't know. But I thought this was one of the most maximalist ones. And they're claiming that this is in the deal, that this type of commitment is in the deal. And this is not one that the U.S. is exactly denying. They're saying, no, no, no, not up front. But like maybe they would have access to this. So to get into that, so they say 300 billion in reconstruction commitments from the U.S. and their allies. This is what the Iranians claim.
15:4724 billion in released frozen funds half before negotiations even start. That's the 12 you were talking about before, Rob. Complete naval blockade lifted within 30 days. U.S. forces withdrawn from around around. Now, that's fairly vague, but around Iran, to me, doesn't imply the region the way they were saying before. So a little bit of a walk back there, but still, you know, they're getting all the troops out. Hormuz reopens under Iranian arrangements, meaning Iran keeps management of the strait. Again, this is being contested, this part, by the Americans, but this is what the Iranians are saying is in there.
16:26um iran reiterates its commitment not to produce nuclear weapons um uh but that that's it that and then they have 60 days after to uh to have nuclear negotiations now there's a few things that should be mentioned in all of this okay um 60 days to negotiate a nuclear deal is ridiculous is, it makes absolutely no sense. And people should should kind of know that there's just something you should have in your mind. The JCPOA took, I believe, over two years to negotiate and they sent experts. Trump just sends like people who own casinos and shit. So it's not the idea that you're going to do what they did in two years in two months.
17:12I mean, unless you're really just starting with the JCPOA or something like that, and then it seems unlikely. But that maybe isn't the most important thing. So, and correct me if you've read anything that contradicts this, Rob, but I've been reading a lot about this. So the U.S. has really contradicted a few claims here that the Iranians are going to make. And this is kind of strange, right? This feels like a strange dynamic because presumably we're all going to find out in a few days and whoever's lying is going to kind of look like an asshole here. So like presumably there wouldn't really be much of an incentive to lie.
17:48And the only one I can really think of is that Donald Trump thinks he's going to get a lot of heat for this. And so he'd rather it not be known until it's done and not have everyone flip out until then to try to undermine it. But I don't know, maybe there's another possibility. But OK, the claims here that Iran is saying, yeah, they get 12 billion up front and they get a commitment to the 300 billion and a commitment to the other 12 billion of theirs that's unfrozen. Now, the U.S. is saying that's not true. Nothing's happening up front. They're not getting their money until we verify that they do certain things, which is unclear.
18:26Like, what does that mean? Verify that they open the strait or verify something about the nuclear negotiations where you only have 60 days for it. That's a big discrepancy. However, Rob, there is a concession built in there, which is that essentially the U.S. has admitted that like, yes, we're open to doing that. Right. So the whole thing, like the whole the whole posture, which, of course, again, was one of the real starting points of this war of like, no, they get nothing, which was very, very clearly stated by Trump and Vance and and Hegseth and all of them that no, Obama gave them. I mean, Donald Trump has been just cartoonishly demonizing Barack Obama for giving them money.
19:13And by that, he meant unfreezing their assets. OK, well, this is the same thing, plus this$300 billion commitment, which is just kind of crazy. But just to be clear, the U.S. has kind of already conceded that point that, oh, no, if we verify that they are doing what they're doing, yes. at least some at least the 24 billion maybe not the 300 but at least the 24 billion is something that like we'd be open to that and then we'll play rubio i'm sorry uh vance is something that and welcoming them back into the broader economic community or something that did seem to indicate maybe that 300 billion hey guys let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show which is sheath underwear the underwear of legends and i am one of those legends i love sheath underwear.
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20:32Okay, so that's a big one. The other one here is that the US has essentially acknowledged, Rob, right, that we're not getting the nuclear dust on Friday, right? We're not getting that even as part of the deal on Friday, but there has been this vague kind of notion that, yes, in the future, they might dilute that down and we would verify that they had diluted that down, right? Okay, but Rob, what? Now, again, this is not clear. This hasn't been confirmed by the Iranians that they're going to do that. But just like with the money, Rob, what's the concession in there? Because it's a pretty big one.
21:12We're away from zero enriched uranium. We're not saying that anymore. We're not saying that they can't enrich uranium at all. We're back to going, could you maybe dilute down the 60 % enrichment that you have? Again, this is a major, Rob, you've been following this stuff. This is a major, major capitulation from the starting point, okay? The starting point was, this is what the whole fucking war is about. This is what the 12-day war and this war was about. The pretext for war was that we demand 0 % enrichment and they won't agree to that. We've walked away from that. Forget about the more maximalist demands of Donald Trump.
21:50Total surrender. Regime change. Oh, yeah, we've walked away from all of that, too. I'm just saying, Rob, if you actually look at this through what's being before we even get into, you know, what the claims that Iran's making are in the deal that that the U.S. is denying, even though the U.S. is the one who won't show you the deal. We've already walked away from every single war demand all in an effort for what? What's the one thing that we get out of this, Rob? The one thing is the Strait of Hormuz is open. and that was the status quo before the war we've fought the whole thing to get back to where we started i don't know what what do you see in here rob am i getting something wrong uh i haven't seen a word about the uh whether or not iran's going to be able to enrich so i think your read is likely right that uh we're walking away from them not being allowed to enrich uh and just looking for them to downgrade their enriched uranium and get rid of the nuclear dust.
22:54But I guess what you're missing here is that if you piss off Iran enough and you start a war with them and you bomb the shit out of the country and you take out their Ayatollah, then they can be trusted. But until you do that, you can't take them at their word. You just have to really piss them off and showcase the fact that they're the enemy. And once you do that, then when they tell you that they're not going to go ahead and make nuclear bombs then you can believe them but prior to the warfare you can't believe them i think you sent did you send that to the group chat rob the hegseth i think you sent that the other day right yes saying uh there's natalie can you find that it's it's up from the other day from rob sent was a hegseth but yeah we'll get the words coming out of his mouth i mean it is um again we can get we'll get into the politics of all of this in in a few minutes here but forgetting i'm just saying just trying to analyze what's really going on here it does seem like yeah dude donald trump just didn't want to go up the escalation ladder anymore and this is i gotta say listen i don't know i still maybe we'll speculate for a moment on this before we go to this clip on the claims that iran is making that are in the deal i um i don't know i mean i don't know Look, obviously it looks shady that Trump isn't showing us the deal and they're making these claims that are in it.
24:22But it also seems hard for me to believe is Trump really going to just unfreeze 12 billion off the jump before they've done anything? At 300 billion dollars, are they really going to put a fund together or make some type of commitment for something like that? That seems kind of hard to believe, but also it does kind of seem like maybe that would be the move that they'd make right there is they go, look, we just got to get some type of deal. We got to get them to give us some language that will, you know what I mean? Like something I can spin into a victory. And then, I don't know, maybe, I don't know, we'll just bribe you to say some stuff, say some stuff, and then we'll give you all this money and you'll be in this better position or something like that.
25:12I think Donald Trump is above doing that. And then just in a very crude way, I'm sure it'll be worked out where it's like we're not unfreezing it. Our sock puppet is and we're not putting up money for the fund. But the countries who we aid are going to at our behest or something like that. But it'll be very easy to point out that like, yeah, Iran got all of this money from the deal. And that was the end result of it. So I mean, again, I don't know. But also. So it doesn't really, I guess my real point here is that none of it, it doesn't really matter. It doesn't really matter to the bigger picture whether Trump's going to end up giving them a$300 billion fund or whether Trump's going to unfreeze$12 billion off the bat or any.
26:04The broader fundamentals of this war are all kind of revealed through this. What I'm most fascinated by is you already see Mark Levin and Ben Shapiro going nuts, and they hate this deal. And for those people who are the Trump hardliners that were just believing Trump no matter what, and were not the people that were anti-Trump and then jumped on Trump because he suddenly became pro-war and lied to everyone during the election process. But for the people who are just the Trump loyalists and believe Trump no matter what, I wonder how they're going to accept this 180 from basically the Israel propaganda of Iran's an evil empire, a mortal enemy.
26:44We have to stop them now. I'm doing future generations a favor because they were going to go nuclear. I know it's costly, but I have to take care of this now to a total 180 of, hey, Israel needs to behave itself and knock it off. And because I say so, Iran can now be trusted. I wonder if people are really going to be willing to accept that the jcpoa was the worst deal ever these people cannot be trusted we went to war with them failed in terms of trying to show our u.s military might of getting them to capitulate and roll over and go hey you totally destroyed our navy you took on our leader you guys win what do you need from us and that suddenly now they can be trusted i really wonder how the slim majority of loyalists who are not just pro-war who were just sticking through donald trump this entire time are going to accept this reality.
27:36I just, I wonder how they're going to put this together in their brains of that made sense two weeks ago. And this makes sense now. Yeah. Especially if you are even vaguely familiar with the fact that there's a whole other side of this argument. You know what I mean? Like if you're even vaguely familiar of the fact that you're like, well, you know, there's, there's a lot of people like in America now who are saying like Netanyahu's the bad guy, but I'm with Trump. Trump Netanyahu is our friend and the Ayatollah is the bad guy. And that's why we got to go fight this war. And then like halfway through Trump's it's like, oh, no, actually Netanyahu is kind of the bad guy.
28:12Like it's hard to just not on a simple level go. So you're telling me those people were right about what they said. You're like, no, no, no, no, they were still wrong. But yeah, it's a complicated sale. That's for sure. It's, you know, it's very interesting, right, you know, the dynamic. Oh, I'm sorry. We should talk about this first before we move on because this is the other element of the deal. And that's, as Natalie said, the clip's not working for her. And I think she found it. Oh, okay. Here, let's go to that and then we'll get to the other element of the deal. Let's go to, yeah, Hegseth.
28:44Are you keeping the force posture in place through the 60 days of negotiations and beyond? Oh, we'll make sure the military option is there. And that's the that's the big difference between this and JCPOA and the way Obama did it. Obama, they begged Iran for a deal and we bombed Iran and then put in a blockade and then ran ships through and then have restarted when necessary to ensure that they come to the table for a great deal. So our military posture will be whatever it needs to be to ensure they're compelled over this 60 days through the memorandum of understanding that they live up to what they said they would do.
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29:25The document says Iran will never have a nuclear weapon, won't seek one, won't buy one, won't have one. Jason P. Weiss said that too. There'll be negotiations to make that final. But they didn't have the threat of military force the way that we do, that Iran respects in a very way that their regime is more devastated, more devastating, excuse me, more devastated than it's ever been in its 47 years. And that's why they're at the table. So the huge difference is we did this from a position of strength. President Trump led with military might. That military might will stay as long as necessary. You know, if the blockade comes off, then you you pull back and you allow shipping to flow just like Iran needs to allow shipping to go through the straits.
30:05But we can snap that blockade back at any point and they can't do anything about it. And Iran knows that. And that's why we have the leverage in these talks. And we hope they'll go well. Rob, you know, he really is a big, dumb lung head. I mean, he's dude, I've met Pete Hegseth. I had beers with Pete Hegseth years ago and I remember having beers with him. It was after a show at Fox News after the Kennedy show. We went over to the Irish pub next door, a group of us, and we were having beers. And I remember we were all talking. I remember thinking to myself, this guy's a big, dumb lung head. And now he's the secretary of defense, and he's still a big, like, he really is just, it's just such an embarrassment for the country.
30:47This guy is who represents your war department. So this is what he's got. You can't even point to what's better. You just go, Obama begged the Iranians not to get nukes. We bombed the Iranians not to get nukes. Like, ooh, yours had explosions. Hey, retard, begging is better. Begging is better than bombing. If you can't point to a difference in the conclusion, then you don't just win by saying, our method involved killing people. Oh, oh, wonderful. Wonderful. So the families of the 200 girls who got slaughtered. Hey, Obama got here by begging. We got here by murdering your girls. Wonderful, Pete Hegseth.
31:37What a great accomplishment. Oh, we're, you know, we got them to commit to not making a nuclear weapon. You go, they literally, the preamble to the JCPOA is them committing to not getting a nuclear weapon. And I'd like to point out. Go read it. Go read the first paragraph of the JCPOA. It is what he said. But what does he say, Rob? No, but we got here from a position of strength. Shit blew up before we got them to say that. Nothing blew up before Obama got them to say that. I dismiss this premise because I believe that the deterrent of the theoretical force is better than losing with force. When you show up with force and you show up that it's not successful, that's a lot less scarier.
32:20and that's not a position of strength. And I think the proof is at the end of the JCPOA, Iran was still under sanctions, was not just able to just be on the world stage and just selling its oil. And the new paradigm is going to be that there are normalized world power and probably the biggest power in the region. And that's the result of the failed strength that you guys tried to posture with. And so the idea that this is from a place of strength and that was from a place of weakness, I think Iran's going to walk away. Seemingly, if the deal actually goes through, which still seems somewhat shaky and that Donald Trump's lying and that there aren't everything's not agreed to and that you got to restrain Israel and we're not ready to do that.
33:00There's a lot of variables on the table. But if this goes through as is, you've got theoretically, let's just say money up front. None of the terms on the nuclear stockpiles actually worked out with Iran having the ability to go ahead and sell its oil. I mean, you're telling me that that's a better deal or that this was from a position of strength. This is bullshit. Yeah. Oh, 100%. It's this is this is such a weaker position than where we were in the JCPOA. No, the only thing. No, it's just Pete Hegseth and Donald Trump and guys like this. They they equate shit blowing up with strength. Killing people is strength now, evidently.
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35:19Like, you know what I mean? Like we even have a slow, like a saying that it's like, Oh, I didn't get the memo. You know, like, that's like a joke. You could make it a bar. Oh, we're having, we're doing tequila. I didn't get the memo, you know, that you would never just be like, I haven't received the memorandum. You get kicked out of that bar talking like that. All right. Anyway. Um, so the other major thing that's in there, conceded by all sides, is that Lebanon's part of the ceasefire and Israel cannot continue attacking Lebanon. Of course, this creates once again, the entire situation we've been watching.
35:51By the way, Rob, they're bombing them right now. And Israel's, I read one report that there were explosions heard in Lebanon. I guess I haven't seen that confirmed yet. So hold off on confirming that. But Israel has said, they've made a bunch of public statements already from all types of different. I just saw Ben Kavir made one where he's like, yeah, we are not we did not sign on to this. So we're not part of this, which is true, Rob. Right. Like they're not a part of the deal. So they but cool. So Israel's breaking up with us. We don't have to break up with them. Perfect. Right. So that that, of course, leads to the same question of like, is Israel going to try to undermine this?
36:25Well, they've done that at every single other turn. So I think we'd have to just assume yes. But then the real question is, are they able to do we even get to Friday or does something kick off before then. And, you know, I don't know, but I suppose one of the other points I should make, because almost every time here, when you actually go through what is being floated out, again, we haven't seen this, so we don't know for sure. But when you go through what's being floated out, it's almost like, okay, so they're arguing over this detail. But then you look at like what the implicit admission in all of that is and what's the implicit admission in Libya being part of the ceasefire?
37:09Is that that whole, oh, you can't work with Hezbollah anymore? You can't fund your terrorist proxies? That ain't in this memorandum, Rob. So again, like on every single level regime change no people are going to take over the government no zero enriched uranium no we get all the 60 percent enriched uranium no medium and short-range missiles no funding of terror proxy groups no one thing we got opening the Strait of her moose now your assignment rob is to spin that into a when in here i mean i don't know man tell me what i'm wrong this is this is without us getting into the argument of whether or not he's given them 12 billion up front without even that so now i gotta say in in terms of the politics of this.
38:11It's an interesting moment. As we've said before, Rob, this has been a dynamic of this whole thing. You have these two groups. There are the people who just support Donald Trump, and then there's the Israel lobby. And so, of course, right now, it's almost in a way, this is, if you look at what's left in MAGA, that's essentially it. Those are the two groups. All of us have left. So, you know, the Trump coalition no longer consists of Tucker Carlson and Joe Rogan and Theo Vaughn, you know, like that's gone. But what's left now are the the Mike Cernovich's, the Jack Posabiak's, the Trump supporters and the Israel lobby.
38:59And so the Trump supporters are thrilled with this because, first of all, whether they want to admit it to themselves or not, they know that Donald Trump is bleeding over this war, right? They're aware. They see that they're getting ratioed every day when they try to stand up for him on social media or whatever. And then they also see what the Israel lobby is doing here and how they're – but they have no option to turn on Trump, so they have to just celebrate everything he does. So this is the greatest war ever. This is total victory. That's what they're saying. Now, again, as I've mentioned before throughout this war, this is a tough thing for me because I'm so disgusted by the way these people are behaving.
39:41And yet they're probably the most important people right now. I hate to say it. I hate to admit it. But like I watch I watch Mike Cernovich, somebody who I've liked and respected for years. I watch him posting on Twitter that this was a huge victory for Donald Trump. and I'm like, I don't want to lose respect for you like this, dude. Like, how can I just watch you just lying to your own people? Like, it's just so, my God, like, what are you like? How much did he pay you for the night? Like, I'm sorry, this is just like prostitute behavior. It's one of the greatest strategic blunders in American history.
40:15Destroyed his presidency over just nothing. It's got, just cost hundreds of billions of dollars to the global economy. Just horrible. Every level of it, just horrible. But okay. that's what you gotta, you gotta have some people saying that, man. Trump's gotta hear at least a few people saying that. But now, okay, the dynamic is, now the Israel lobby is completely turning on him and calling him out. Calling him out for what a failure this is. I mean, it's kind of unbelievable, dude, watching, I know you alluded to this earlier, Rob, but watching Mark Levin and Ben Shapiro and these types go from just, all of a sudden, they're the guys who were always for Donald Trump, and they're attacking anyone else who doesn't trust the plan, or who doesn't trust Donald Trump?
40:59And you're watching them immediately pivot back. And so now there's this weird like battle between the two groups that are just been driving me crazy the most. And I'm not exactly sure how to play it. I don't know what the right of it is. I almost just want to retweet all of them. You know, like I saw, I'm not, I didn't post on Twitter for the last couple of days, but I saw, like I saw Mike Cernovich tweet, you know, huge victory for Donald Trump. And I almost just want to retweet it. Yeah, man, totally get this deal signed because thank God let's sign it. Whatever the deal is. Yes. Let's sign it.
41:34Honestly, I don't even care. Are you giving them 12 billion or 24 billion? Whatever. Give them what you got to give them. Let's get this nightmare over with. It's the best thing we could do. And, uh, and then you see people like Mark Levin. Have you seen him? He's posting and he's like, uh, I actually saw Mark Levin actually had some tweets that were going viral. It's the first time I've ever seen it where he's going, Hey, how come we can't see the memorandum? If it's so great, why don't we get to see it? And you're like, yeah, good point. Mark Levin. Yeah. You know, like what, what can you, what can I say here?
42:04Do I even want to pick a fight with Mark Levin right now? You're like, yeah, dude, fair, absolutely fair point. We should get to see that thing. But so just watch, man. I mean, look, dude, there's, there's two things, two predictions that I made that have aged very well. One of them, Rob, was that they're going to go from saying Tucker Carlson. And the lesson here is that Tucker Carlson doesn't matter. And that's why it doesn't matter. Donald Trump's not destroying his whole coalition. And then they're going to pivot to blaming the midterms on Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens and all them. They're already doing that.
42:39Levin went on a whole rant about that the other day. And then my other prediction is an obvious one, was that all the Israel firsters will turn on Donald Trump if he doesn't get regime change here. That's all this was ever about for them. And look, as we've broken down for many, many years here, and I'm not going to go through the whole thing again, but you can find me breaking this all down on the Internet all over the place. But this was always about Israel taking Lebanon. That's the whole beef with Iran. That's why they have a beef with Iran, is because Iran is very, very close with Hezbollah, who is essentially the militia that runs southern Lebanon that kicked Israel's ass twice and drove them out of the country.
43:19They weren't able to take southern Lebanon because of Hezbollah, and because Iran is arming and backing Hezbollah. That's their problem with the Iranians. So this was always for them. This was never about nuclear. They're not concerned about the nuclear program. That's just the pre-time. That's just the thing that they know that Americans care about. Just like with Saddam Hussein, that's the thing they tell you. They can't tell you. You know, it was in that interview when they were responding to me, Rob, when Noam had David Worms on. And it's a while. He's talking about it before all the things with Iraq and all the things, blah, blah, blah, and the weapons program and all this.
43:57And then eventually he just lets it out. And he goes, and look, Yasser Arafat was making a whole bunch of noise about a two-state solution. And when you had Saddam Hussein there, it let the Arab nationalists know that Mr. Arab nationalist is over here and has your bat. Oh, yeah, that's right. That's kind of the issue, isn't it? But, Rob, that's pretty tough to sell to a soccer mom in Kansas now, isn't it? Hey, we got to go overthrow Saddam Hussein because, you know, like if Saddam Hussein's out there, then Yasser Arafat might get the feeling that maybe he should keep fighting because he might get a two-state solution one day.
44:30How do you feel about that soccer mom from Kansas? No, not that good. How about he's making nukes and he's in with Al Qaeda? Oh, you're interested now, right? That's all this is. But anyway, I say this, I make this point because if you understand that, you recognize, are they going to be okay with this deal now? Hey, look, Rob, you know, look, we got them to promise that they're not going to make nuclear weapons. Why is it that every time Iran makes a deal promising to not get nuclear weapons, every member of the Israel lobby hates that deal and tries to destroy it with everything they have? why would that be if their big concern was a nuclear Iran okay well once you understand that that's not the concern and it's all about Lebanon then you go oh so the deal is that they get not only do they get to keep being friends with Hezbollah but Hezbollah is protected by order of this deal now you're going to start to understand why the Israel lobby is going to fucking flip over this and do everything they can to destroy it.
45:37So to your point, Rob, are you saying that Donald Trump is making a deal that protects known terrorists in the United States government? No, I'm not. I would never make a claim like that, Rob, but I mean, if you've got evidence. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is Prolon by El Nutra. We've all set health goals in the past. Maybe you want to lose weight or exercise more or eat healthier, but without a plan, they often fade. Well, that's where Prolon comes in. It's five-day fasting mimicking diet gives you a science-backed structured approach to stay on track.
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47:33Here's going to have to respond to terrorism across its border, as we'll see if the United States is going to suddenly become an advocate for the idea that Israel can't defend itself. Then this is a giant L for the United States and for our allies. Israel has the right to defend itself against threats, but the attack it was responding to was very small and meaningless. Nobody was hurt, injured or killed and should not disrupt this important process. I really don't think the president would see it that way if, say, Mexico had fired a bunch of drones into American soil and blown them up and no one got killed.
48:04I don't think it works that way. I'm pretty sure it doesn't work that way. How is it right here? Just OK, so just already off the bat. OK, you see Ben Shapiro. This is the man who called Donald Trump the most courageous president in the history of the United States of America after he launched this war on behalf of Israel. Right. Same guy who will praise you like that. He will now turn around and go, if this, if the lesson of this is that Israel can't defend herself, then this is a huge L. That's how, think about it, like you go from being the most courageous president in American history to that same war being a huge L if you're not in service of Israel.
48:45Okay, now think about the level of dishonesty here, what Ben Shapiro does. when he goes, Donald Trump asked Israel not to retaliate. Okay. But imagine Mexico just drone bombed America. Now it didn't kill anyone, but do you think we wouldn't retaliate to that? Okay. Let me just say another scenario, right? Let's say there was a hundred year war between us and Mexico. And we had just killed so many people on both sides. It's just always at war forever. And we couldn't afford to fight the war ever by ourselves. So like our friends in Europe, they were paying for the war because we were like, we really need this help.
49:29We're in this hundred year war with Mexico. And so many people had died on both sides. I mean, we've killed probably about 20 times as many of their people as they've killed of us, but we've been going back and forth forever and ever and ever. And then Europe, the European countries who were financing us were like, look, this is really unpopular here. We don't want to do this anymore. where we've got a peace deal worked out. And then they sent over a missile and nobody got hurt or anything like that. And they went, please don't respond to this one because we're trying to get this peace deal done.
49:58See, that would be really fucking reasonable, right? But Ben Shapiro doesn't give you that scenario. So instead he goes, but what if Mexico just launched a job? As if, because I'm just saying like, and look, it's not a hundred year war exactly or whatever, but you know, whatever. I'm just saying like, maybe those scenarios aren't exactly the same. But if you object to that, then you object to scenarios that aren't exactly the same being used as examples, right? But let me tell you a scenario that definitely ain't the same. It's not the US and Mexico, two sovereign states that live next to each other that haven't fought a war in 175 years, you know what I mean?
50:33That are like just are cool with each other. And then one of them just launches an attack against the other one. That's a different scenario than being in the middle of a war that someone else foots the bill for. And then they ask you to not respond to an attack where nobody was hurt. Anyway, I don't know, Rob, what can you even say about the equivocate? You know the thing they always say about us? If you ever bring up any of Israel's crimes, they go, moral equivalency. You're making a false equivalency. But what a false equivalency between this request by Donald Trump in the middle of a war he's conducting on your behalf to Mexico just attacking us.
51:12Fucking fraud. Yeah, if Israel wants to defend itself, then leave us out of it and if Israel is under the belief that Iran is a bigger enemy and we're in the middle of putting together a ceasefire with the bigger threat and we're telling you hey guys don't mess this up then yeah you got to follow our lead if you want us to just walk away and leave you guys to yourself to defend yourselves and for us to take back our resources that you're not getting us involved in a mess go ahead and defend yourself because us and Ben Shapiro both know that Israel is unable to do so and will completely stop all these military actions because they can't do it.
51:49This is all bullshit. That's right. Rob, it's the most cliche thing in the world for like a teenager, like on a sitcom, for like a teenage girl to go to her dad and go, hey, I'm 15. I can do what I want. And what does the dad say back to her? Well, as long as you live under this roof, you're going to do, right? You're like, this is the most cliched thing ever that you would go, okay, you can just make this assertion of liberty, but that's actually just infantile if you don't also take responsibility, right? Isn't that what the dad is saying essentially there? That it's like, well, yeah, okay, you can do whatever you want.
52:30Well, I can do whatever I want with my money and my food and my shelter, right? It's like you're still dependent. And so, no, you don't have this autonomy. me. And that is exactly the same thing here. It is every bit as infantile for Ben Shapiro and Mark Levin to sit here and say, hey, the U.S. can't tell Israel what to do. Well, actually, Israel, if you want to live under this welfare, then you're going to live by the rules of this welfare. Absolutely, we can tell them that. Let's keep playing.
53:02You're basically free. We shouldn't spoil this. We shouldn't spoil this very important day just because you fired a rocket at my house and you happen to hit my front lawn and not kill anybody. He said, we are very close to a deal that will bring peace to the region, including to Lebanon. And all sides should stand down. All sides should stand down. One of these sides is acting defensively. One of them is a terrorist group responsible for the death of hundreds, if not thousands of Americans. He said, there should be no more attacks by Israel anywhere in Lebanon, but there should also be no more attacks by any other party, including Hezbollah against Israel.
53:34This could be the beginning of a long and beautiful peace. Let's not blow it. Thank you for your attention to this matter. I'm sorry, these are not kids fighting here. You have a terrorist group that has expressed its desire to wipe Israel from the map. And you have an American ally flying sorties alongside American pilots, sharing technology and military largesse both ways. And the idea is that that state is supposed to what? Just go silent when it is attacked. And then Trump went to Axios. And again, this is just the kind of signaling that is not useful. It is not good. It does not help negotiations.
54:04It looks like weakness. and the Iranians can sense weakness. They can smell us. The president went to Barack Ravid at Axios, who used to be like the Obama cutout. And then he became J.D. Vance's team's cutout over at Axios. And now the president is using Barack Ravid as his cutout. And the president went to Axios and he said that he was shocked when his advisors called him to brief about that Israeli strike in Beirut. And he fumed at Netanyahu, quote, it is so bad I couldn't believe it. An hour before we're supposed to sign the deal, Trump acknowledged that Hezbollah attacked Israel first, but stressed it didn't cause any damage and nobody had been killed.
54:39Why did Bibi have to do an effing attack? I was so pissed off. I let him know. He has no effing judgment. I let him know that. And then he said the same thing to the Wall Street Journal. Bibi shouldn't have done that. I didn't like it at all. They fired a couple of small missiles and missed their mark by a lot. They have to fire back, then he'll fire back, then the whole thing never stops in the Middle East. So we are now back to what? Cycle of violence nonsense? That suddenly there's no difference between Israel defending itself and Hezbollah firing missiles and rockets? at Israelis in Israeli territory?
55:08Okay, this is the problem. If you keep sending the signal to a terror-backing regime that chants death to America, that you want to deal with them so badly that you're going to tell our allies in the region to stand down, you are giving them an enormous amount of forward momentum. And that is a huge mistake. All right, there you go. Huge mistake. Weakness. um man that's how that's all it takes well 24 hours ago donald trump would have been saying this exact same thing so i'm curious to see how the loyalists are going to stand by him and if they're willing to accept that this is no longer the narrative and that iran can just be trusted because back to what i said i think in week two of donald trump is i need more than the donald trump said so standard and people are still living by it so a week ago iran was the mortal enemy and he was saving our empire because in the future, Iran was going to have a nuclear war and they were going to destroy our country.
56:04And now you're forced to accept actually the reasonable people and they can take part in the world economy. We just had to make a deal with them. So I don't know. I don't know how people are. Honestly, this is somewhat more honest than the people than Donald Trump or the people that are just going to change gears with them. Yeah. Oh, look, I mean, first of all, on the Ben Shapiro stuff, and this really is like, it's it's a great, I mean, there's just a million examples like this, but this is one more, like just perfect one where you just recognize that there really is a problem here. And I got to say, I think it is, I know there's a point we've made a million times over, not that it's the most important point, but it really is like, this does really contribute to the rise of antisemitism or whatever you want to call it.
56:50Because it's like, dude, you just, you have a guy, a Jewish guy who's an American. You are an American. You were born here. You have citizenship here. You became famous here. You became rich here. You purport to love the country. And yet, when it comes down to it, right, I mean, look, Rob, it's not just like, this is why I like Megyn Kelly using the term Israel firster. This is why I always like John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt using the term the Israel lobby, because like Donald Trump, according to Ben Shapiro, is the most courageous president ever. But if he makes one decision that crosses Israel, weakness, failure, you know, these are the words we use to describe, it's like, it is so clearly in service of this other country.
57:40Now, it is completely fair to point out that there's also lots of Christians who are Israel firsters and atheists who are Israel firsters and whatever, But it is a real problem, man, especially when you've got two nations whose interests are so conflicting, or at least the interests of our nation with the interests of the powerful people in Israel are in conflict. And to have people that are just religiously loyal to that country over ours is just – it's insane. And, you know, again, all of these guys, they're essentially like little boys with action figures. They're all just like, no, keep blowing shit up.
58:21Take Carg Island. Do whatever you have to do. Right now, by all military estimates, this will just result in catastrophe. And very clearly, none of them have skin in the game. Like they're not going and fighting these wars. They're not. They're rich and they're fine. and you know but like anyway it's just it's it's crazy to watch them and I will say Rob um it's a very weird part of the dynamic I'm just trying to be honest here because that's all I'm really able to do I feel like that's the the bond between me and the listeners or whatever is that I just got to tell the truth but while there's this weird dynamic in a way isn't there something you respect more about Ben Shapiro than the people who are just Trump cult followers.
59:10You get what I'm saying? Like, even though he's like, it's so evil, but at least he believes in something. There's something, there's something about just believing in something versus being a total phony that like, again, like the Trump supporters, if Donald Trump had announced escalation yesterday, would have supported him. And if he announces this deal, they'll support him. If he is giving them 12 billion up front, they'll support him. And if he isn't giving them 12 billion up front, they'll support. It's just like, you don't believe in anything, man. I, I don't know. Very weird. Okay. Let's, because we are running out of time here.
59:45Let's get to a couple of the JD Vans clips here. How many JD Vans clips did I send you? Cause I think I sent a few. Let's see.
59:57Maybe just here, just play, play the, I guess I just sent two, right? Okay. So let's Either order, doesn't matter, Natalie. Let's play one of them.
1:00:07Walk through some of this. The Iranians are saying that they're going to have access to a$300 billion reconstruction fund. True or false? Well, Ed, that's the sort of thing they could have access to, funded by the Gulf Coast Coalition, so long as they honor their end of the obligation. I think that one of the things you're going to see, Ed, and people have to be skeptical of this, is that the hardliners in the Iranian system will overemphasize the benefits that Iran gets while under emphasizing all the things that they have to concede and all the things they have to provide in order to get these benefits so we absolutely are positive real quick Gulf Coast country I love Rob that JD Vance just had to go around on all the shows and defend this thing and he's got to go in there and say things like well you know listen what the Iranians are going going to try to do is overemphasize all the stuff they get and not mention any of the stuff that we get and you're like hey mr vice president you know what would really help clear that up you know what could really solve that problem would be if you told us like this is it's such a bizarre thing to say we've come to this deal it's a great deal there's a lot of misinformation about the deal and they'll be like yeah but i can't tell you and also rob you may have noticed there he didn't shoot him a no.
1:01:21He asked him that he said they're claiming they're going to have access to 300 billion dollars. And J.D. Van Swet, that's the type of thing that could be available to them. So, again, as we mentioned up top, conceding that actually, yeah, this is something we're willing to talk about, not just talk about giving around money, but more money than they ever could have dreamed of from Obama and Biden combined. Well, this is the kind of thing you see when you to negotiate from a place of strength. Yeah, it's all the strength. This is what happens when you kill people first. You get these type of negotiations.
1:01:54Here, let's keep playing. He's investing in the reconstruction of Iran, but only if Iran ends their nuclear program, ends their enriched stockpile of material, and is really open to an inspections and enforcement regime that gives the American people confidence they're never going to have a nuclear weapon. So I think the dance you're going to see, Ed, which is going to be interesting, is the Iranian media, especially the hardline media, they're going to talk a lot about what they get without talking about what they give. It's important for all of us to correct that record. Like you could do right now.
1:02:28Yes, as you could correct, but are unwilling to. Okay. So again, there's the admission, everything we were talking about up front. Yes, they could potentially have access to the 300 billion. His only objection was it's not like they just get that. They have to do some stuff. and then number two what are we talking about here an inspections regime to inspect what rob oh i guess in rich uranium nuclear their nuclear program okay i mean they're not he's not saying they have to have no nuclear program and then we have to have inspectors to make sure you don't have a nuclear program he's saying we have to have inspectors to monitor what level you're enriching up to it's given up on the zero percent enriched uranium uh let's go to the other the other clip of JD Vance here doing his best to spin this nonsense.
1:03:15Well, we already signed the deal digitally yesterday and there's been no money released and that won't change, George. Again, this is a performance based thing. If we see the Iranians making, for example, taking action to eliminate their stockpile of enriched material, then yes, sanctions relief will follow. If we see the Iranians taking action to allow the kind of verification regime that we need to see to know that they're not going to build a nuclear weapon? Yes, sanctions relief will follow. So this is really about walking down a pathway here where the Iranians will be welcomed into the world economy if they do the right thing.
1:03:51And George, we have to remember their economy is fundamentally destroyed. Their nuclear program is fundamentally destroyed. If they don't do the right things, if they don't allow the verification regime, they're never going to have the money to rebuild their nuclear program to begin with. So this is fundamentally a win-win for the American people What the president has said is he wants it to be a win for the Iranian people as well. But that requires some real trust building and some real positive conduct from the Iranian political system. We're going to see if that happens. If it does, they're absolutely going to find the president.
1:04:23United States and the entire team, a willing partner to make their country more prosperous. All right, Rob, what do you think? My initial thought is if those are all the fundamentals, then just walk away. If the fundamentals are their economy is destroyed and they fundamentally can't afford to get a nuclear warhead, so then job done, you don't need a deal and leave unless you're lying about that also. Yeah. All right. A couple of things I want to say before we got to wrap this up. Look, I guess let's just say so we're presumably going to find out if we do get to a signing of this memorandum of understanding on Friday what exactly is in the deal.
1:05:11But let's just say, for the sake of argument, that every noise being made by J.D. Vance and the Trump administration is truthful because they've got such a great track record of telling the truth through this whole thing. And the Iranians are overplaying their hand. I'm not exactly sure why. They're just trying to save face. And it's going to be revealed on Friday that they didn't get any of this stuff up front. OK, so they don't get the 12 billion up front. They don't get access to the 300 billion fund, the reconstruction funds up front. They have to like do certain things before they get any of that.
1:05:47OK. But still what you're telling me is that there's no regime change. They're still supporting the same proxy groups. They're not immediately turning over the enriched uranium. They're not, you know what I'm saying, like any of the other war goals. It's not 0 % enriched uranium. It's not whatever. the no talk of the missiles whatsoever that's not just not even in here um even in the u.s best case scenario what you're telling me here rob is that you achieved none of the war goals none of the war goals have been achieved and that essentially what we're back to is that we have a we have 60 days we have not nearly enough time but we're going to start negotiating nuclear again.
1:06:34That, Rob, is what we had for the two years before the JCPOA. That is what we had for the six years after the JCPOA. It's what we had before the 12-day war. It's what we had before this war. They're willing to negotiate their nuclear. Anyway, Anyway, so even with the regime's best case scenario, this is it is what it is. It's a humongous U.S. military defeat. And I don't think, you know, for political reasons, I don't know if that's the most helpful thing to say out loud right now. But again, as I said before, I just don't know how to operate that way. I just got to tell the truth to you guys.
1:07:15And then that's that. But I'm not sure if I should be like tweeting this out or try to get. But whatever. That's the facts. It's a huge loss, maybe the biggest loss in many ways in U.S. military history. The other thing I did want to just mention is that I think so many of this is like devils in the details of what follows in the next 60 days for one side to say Iran is following the agreement, Iran is not following the agreement. But I think the bottom line here, Rob, is that the reason why the Israel lobby is flipping out about this is that this is really the biggest bright side of all of this is that, you know, you get to those 60 days.
1:07:52I think there's a good chance we're not going back to war. I think that this is the you know, that's going to be 60 days later. Is the Trump administration really going to restart this most unpopular of wars that they know what what's going to happen if we restart it in 60 days? let's say these talks fall apart and they're like, no, we're not giving you any access to that money or they're hitting back at Israel because Israel's bombing Lebanon or whatever it is that falls apart. What are we going to do, Rob? Go back in so they close the strait again and we're right back to the same situation where we got to threaten them and we can't militarily open it.
1:08:27We got, you know, people can - Trump does love living in circles. Well, look, people can say, hey, there was the 12-day war and then we came back again for this war. But there's a big difference there, man. We just did not. We got some black eyes in this one. You know, this just is not the same thing. And there's I think it's going to be very, very hard for Trump to restart this thing after he stops it now. And I think the Israel lobby knows that they know that this was their chance. This was their best chance. And I guess perhaps still is their best chance to get that regime toppled. And so it'll be interesting.
1:09:05My I would say I think over the next few days, these guys are going to really dial up the intensity. You know, Ben Shapiro and Mark Levin and all of them are going to really, really dial up the intensity, pushing Donald Trump into this, as you alluded to, Rob. They've got a lot of rope to work with because they can hang him by all his own words. You know, they can hang him by, as you pointed out, he was just saying the same thing 24 hours ago that Mark Levin's saying. So they can use all of that. They can use, sir, you promised the Iranian people. You promised there'd be regime change. You did all this.
1:09:40You put your full nutsack out on the table and they're gonna remind him every day for the rest of this week about that. And then of course, on the military front, Israel's gonna be doing everything they can to undermine this. So it's gonna be an interesting few days and we'll see what we got. But hopefully we can get to this deal being signed. We can take this loss. It is a loss, but at least it'll be over. We'll see. All right. PorchTour.com. Come see RobbieTheFireBernstein out on the road. ComicDaveSmith.com to see us together as we travel around. Always a fun time. All right. See you guys tomorrow.
1:10:19Peace.
1:10:25Thank you.
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