You Don’t Hate Neocons Enough

28:04So like, yeah, you didn't get any of that first part. Sorry. Not like you're like, Hey, put a bunch of pissed off Saudis and a couple of Egyptians attack New York city, 25 years ago. How come I can't get my war with Iran that I've been trying for ever since then? Like, cause they didn't attack us and you could spin it however you want to. And you could say that yes, when Ronald Reagan sent Marines into Lebanon, that there were militants who were linked with Iran, who got in gunfight with our boys. But come on, Rob, like you said, that is just different, man. That's just different than someone coming Yes, Reagan literally wrote that I, he said, I swore I would never tuck tail and run, but I underestimated the irrationality of Middle Eastern politics.

28:51And so I got the Marines the hell out of Beirut. Okay. And then sold weapons to the Iranians a couple of years later. So no, it was not, his lesson was not that therefore we're at war with the Iranian people now, because otherwise that would be treason to give aid and comfort to the enemy in wartime. Maybe the lesson here is quit playing these empire games of overthrowing governments because we won't have enemies like the Iranians 47 years later. Well, look, I mean, like in the same in the same way that anybody would just recognize your distinction between killing Americans over here. look, man, like if I if I told you that my neighbor shot me and, you know, you were under the impression that the story was that my neighbor broke into my house with a gun and shot me.

29:39But then you found out that, no, the real story was that I broke into my neighbor's house with a gun and then he shot me. That changes the freaking nature of the story quite a lot. And everybody sees that. Like, I'm sorry, like a soldier dying in a foreign country is not the same thing. Like you grabbed a gun and put on a uniform and invaded a country. You're, you're a military target. Now this has been understood since the enlightenment, at least. Um, I think before that there was distinction between civilians and military combatants. Um, but anyway, okay. So then another angle on top of all of this, Rob is also just like, um, imagine asking this type of, of sacrifice of young people like, like this is, I mean, you wonder why neoconservatism is so unpopular.

30:34You wonder why it's a label that no one even uses anymore. As you remember, I, uh, sorry, go ahead. So as, as you remember, um, when I, when I was debating Douglas Murray, I said neoconservatives once and he goes, Oh, the N word, you're going to bring up the N word. And I went, Hey, what was the name of your book again? Oh yeah. The case for neoconservatism. Like they, they run away from that word now, but they liked it at a time. The reason they run away from it is because it's enormously unpopular. And like, could you imagine anything more unpopular than this? Hey, 20 year old, by the way, this, this whole thing started off the$20 burrito debate.

31:13That's why he's bringing this up. Hey, 20 year old, you know how you're complaining that you can't participate in society because the price of everything is completely, you know, unaffordable oh yeah well you should be cannon fodder this is this is political malpractice you know i mean this is like this is a zoran mom donny you know support or couldn't come up with anything better um here let's keep playing but let's keep playing from the great one

31:44on or a warmonger is this a war of choice we don't even have a draft Would a draft even work with young people today? I wonder, could we even fight World War II today? We're whining about a dollar of gasoline. See, I also, I mean, one of the things, Mark Levin is just such a remarkable person in so many ways, because Rob, I mean, he is just, there is, could you think of a less appealable like human being, a less appealing human being that just this guy, like a little angry, bald man screaming at you about how you're not cannon fodder? And could we even do a draft anymore in this country? Could we even, Rob?

32:26That's the real problem we have in America. You might think that the problem in this country is that, I don't know, that we have tens of thousands of OD deaths every year, hundreds of thousands of people who sleep on the streets, or that we're$40 trillion in debt, or that 25 year olds have no job opportunities or that there's tens of millions of illegal immigrants in the country, like whatever problem you may think. But Mark Levin's major problem is that right now, I'm not sure we could enslave a whole generation of young people to go be cannon fodder. They might resist. Yeah, everything. Another stupid war that won't work out at all the way Mark Levin tells you it.

33:07Well, everything he's describing sounds like societal, societal improvements that people are woken up enough to the fact that, you know, the empire building is not working out in our favor. And so let's not do it. Think about the biggest bloodbath in human history, Rob. We may not be able to do that again. Okay. Here, let's keep playing.

33:35Well, it went up 60 cents. What are we going to do? Mildred, what are we going to do one i don't know frank i went up at the i don't know affordability over 16 million citizens sir rob that's i did not catch that i did watch this once before that might be the most hilarious thing about all that mildred was just the random like name that he went through he goes no you know you know how it is you're a young whippersnapper you say to your friend hey gertrude grab edith meet me over for a malt a malted that's hilarious dude dude how i mean again how fucking out of touch these people are how out of touch these people are a guy like mark levin what is he worth 50 million dollars or something like that and lecturing people about oh what you're upset about a 60 cent increase is like dude i don't know what to tell you like a 60 increase for a gallon of gas is a big goddamn deal to a lot of people.

34:40How disconnected do you have to be to not like, like, I don't know. It's also just this, this dumb thing where it's like, oh, here, here's the message to young people. Your struggle isn't that bad. Here's a, what do you complain? It's like, you know, there's a legitimate grievance that they have. Not being able to own a house is a legitimate grievance. There's no reason why young people should not be able to own houses. Young people were able to own houses in far less productive, far poorer economies. That's a legitimate complaint. Now, if you want to point out that young people, other people have had it hard, that's one thing.

35:20But Rob, Mark Levin did this to you. Say whatever you will. I know he tries to walk away from it now. He visited the president several times advocating for this war. He publicly advocated for this war. We launched this war. You got the policy. Now it's a disaster and it's hurting people. It's causing prices to go higher. Your response to that can't be, oh, worse things have happened. If I punch you in the eye and then you're upset about that, and then I go, dude, people have been stabbed. That's not a good response. I can't just tell you other people have suffered worse than this before. Okay, but was this suffering needed?

36:02You told it. You, Mark Levin, looked in the camera and said, short-term pain for long-term gain, right? Remember, Rob? We played it. Where's the gain? We're six months in. What did you mean by long-term? Because everybody assured me that this is what they meant by long-term. That six months later, we wouldn't be having this conversation. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is Body Brain Coffee, the brainchild of the great Louis J. Gomez. It is amazing. If you're looking for a delicious cup of coffee that naturally boosts your testosterone, you have found it.

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37:47But anyway, yes, it's, it's, and this is one of the, this is one of the many miscalculations that these individuals made at the beginning of the war was if the country doesn't actually support it and so you don't have what you need to win it then it's a mistake to do it and now you're losing it and you're pointing out a variable that existed at the beginning of the war which was hey the country's not actually into this and that's why we shouldn't do it because you're picking a fight that we don't i we were smart enough to realize hey we don't want to do this but then if you're the military strategist and you go we have no option for a ground invasion this is unwinnable they're going to shut down the straits and we don't actually have the stockpile of missiles and they have escalation dominance we have no way to win then it was better off not doing and guess what we would have been in a better place because uh iran might have still been afraid of the potential threat right picking a fight with us that they are now not this is all of your you're complaining about your own miscalculations here yeah no that's right that's right um here let's keep playing through both the draft and voluntary enlistment leaving their homes jobs families for years at a time one hell hole they went into after another including members of my family troops face brutal conditions across global fronts resulting in more than 670 000 american hundreds of thousands this is a little bit this including members of my family like yeah members of my family too lots of people have family who fought in world war ii my grandfather fought in world war ii like i you didn't fight in anything mark like i don't know now you're claiming the valor of your family okay yes yes they suffered a lot our boys in world war ii suffered a lot

39:33okay anyway keep playing of deaths. Families live with constant anxiety, receiving telegrams, reporting wounded, missing, or killed loved ones. The vast majority of us are utterly unaffected personally, our families, by what's going on in Iran with our troops. It's going on way too long, way too long you know the price of gasoline and the price of a taco now it's just it's just crazy you know this has gone on long enough are we going to the movies tonight i don't know should we see a play i i don't know is football on tv yet i don't know that's just gone on way too long you understand the government limited access to everyday goods like meat sugar coffee mark it's unbelievable dude he hates you he's he hates the idea of you living in comfort or you living a normal life and he thinks that that's something that you're supposed to sacrifice so i guess israel can be safe and that he can have a bigger paycheck but he's literally listen to this disdain he has and by the way there's plenty of other activities that people engage in he could have uh he could have said in the same condescending voice oh so you want to go to church oh so you want to volunteer here he's picking mundane activities but at the end of the day who's he to judge how you want to spend your time if you're being peaceful and he literally has to you wanted to spend some time with your family oh you wanted to maybe get a week off with your kid who you never see because they're at school all the time and you're at work all the time because you've been picking up extra shifts because the price of everything is skyrocketed by 35 percent over the last five years so you're picking up extra shifts and you say oh you needed a little vacation you wanted to be able to take him to the lake for the weekend might as well be saying that yeah do you have a disdain for the concept of comfort and the idea that nobody's sacrificing i mean well where's our country going to be if we keep fighting wars like this in the next 10 years can we afford this forever i mean if donald trump keeps this going and you actually have a significant stock market problem like at that point was that a sacrifice that was just oh easy peasy oh so your stock portfolio crashed oh so you got fired from your job because the economy is in a recession because government overspent and then decided to do a stupid war for no reason.

41:47I mean, how many things are you just going to downplay is, hey, you're supposed to live a miserable existence and it's for you to sacrifice yourself so we can make sure that Israel stays safe. Yeah. Yeah. And I got to tell you, man, even as Mark Levin says it and goes like, oh, what do you have to say? It's also like, well, yeah, you don't have to sacrifice. You're in the class of people who really doesn't have to sacrifice that much. Financially speaking, I am too. I'm not trying to like, you know, like there's, you get over a certain hurdle when, even when you get killed by the inflation. Okay.

42:19But if you own a house and you have a little bit of money and the, you know, the inflation, okay. So you have a mortgage and your mortgage debt actually goes down a little bit now in real dollars, right? Cause you're holding debt and then the value of your house goes up. So you almost get compensated a little bit, but if you're just a renter out there, you just get destroyed for it. Mark Levin is literally sitting here and he's mocking the fact that people are resentful over the sacrifice they have to make because it's not as much as the sacrifice that they had to make in World War II. And he's sitting here mocking the sacrifice.

42:52And as you said, Rob, and again, if they would just be honest about it, it is what? It's for Israel. I mean, that's like you said it. He hates you because you have the nerve to think you shouldn't, like young people today think they shouldn't have to sacrifice higher prices for Israel. it's that blatant. I mean, listen, dude, there's, there's quotes of the neocon architect, uh, Irving Kristol, but he just says it straight up. He goes, listen, we can't have a non-interventionist foreign policy because that would be bad for the interests of Israel. And why does Mark Levin want to overthrow Iran?

43:25We all know this. It's just too ridiculous to not be, again, I, I, this is kind of the same thing I said to Cenk on, on Pierce Morgan's show today. Cause he said at one point, You know, when I started like trashing Hassan, he goes, oh, so you're going into like trying to cancel him now? And I go, no, I'm not trying to cancel anybody. I'd like him to be honest about what his position is. Like if you're a communist, just say you're a communist and that that's what you're fighting for. But don't give me that. You know what I mean? And same thing with Mark Levin. I'd respect it a lot more. This is what he said.

43:53You got to sacrifice for Israel. Toughen up. These guys did it. All right. Let's keep playing a little bit more. coffee shoes gasoline and tires using ration books and point systems citizens routinely collected scrap metal rubber aluminum paper to redirect raw materials into the military manufacturing supply chain i can't even imagine our young people doing this today i can't imagine most people doing this today can you that's why it's the greatest generation what is our generation millions of civilians including women entering the workforce heavy manufacturing and defense plants our generation like dude you're 80 what generation do you think you're a part of and and just by the way i mean i'm i'm sorry rob but i just as a man how can you have this conversation without offering up what are you sacrificing you're talking about what they sacrificed compared to what these kids should sacrifice.

44:54What skin in the game have you put in? But as you said, Rob, I think he just gets a Kushier contract, but he doesn't, I don't know. Is he sacrificing everything? I have, there's, there's at least confirmed like 16 or 17 Americans who have made the ultimate sacrifice in this. There's all their families have made a sacrifice in this. The taxpayer is on the hook for at least a couple hundred billion dollars. The global economy has lost several hundred more. There's sacrifice going all around. And Mark Levin's lecturing you that you haven't made more while making none himself.

45:29It's unbelievable. Any other, is there more of this that's worth playing, Rob, or should we switch over to Shapiro? I think there's a little more, but it's all in the same lane of, hey, you pussies, go make a sacrifice for this great country. Because this is important. Let's go back a little more Mark Levin, and then we'll switch over to Shapiro. Worked long, grueling shifts under high-pressure conditions. Having grown up during the 1930s financial collapse, Americans learned extreme frugality, self-reliance, and deferred personal dreams to survive deep poverty before being called into global war.

46:08Affordability wasn't even an issue. Victory was the issue. Unity against an enemy was the issue. i don't think they were debating the price of a burrito or taco today as opposed to back then 0.4 we got to pause again 1.3 million american servo and and what kind of censorship existed in that environment from fdr uh that led to a landscape of uh the entire and firstly i wasn't there uh so i'm just taking it your word that you're just stating that the entire country was into it also listen you'd be more uh you you you would handle a debate better about whether or not world war ii was worth it but uh what do you feel about vietnam you want to defend that one you want to defend uh korea you want to defend afghanistan you want to defend iraq uh you want to defend world war one so fine world war ii was worth the sacrifice and americans saw it at the time from your perspective was worth it and people saw that and they were willing to contribute And now we've got 50 years of wars since that were a disaster.

47:11And people are looking at this one and going, hey, I didn't vote for this. I don't want it. You said that you were going to be America first. We've got problems in this country we're looking to fix. And instead, you guys decided to fight this war on someone else's behalf. Yeah, we weren't attacked. We were in the middle of negotiations and we launched the Pearl Harbor style sneak attack. This is different than that war. The whole point just amounts to people sacrificed a lot. And think about how perverse it is when people worship war like this. Like, look, he's bragging about the suffering. There was rationing.

47:43Regular people had to collect copper. There was food insecurity. Everybody sacrificed. People were waiting to find out if their kids were dead. All right? Yeah, all things that we don't want to live with. Nobody wants that. Nobody agrees with you. You lost the argument, and so nobody wants to sacrifice for Israel and for these stupid wars.

48:11It really is something, Rob. All right, let's switch over to Shapiro for a little bit because I did find this to be very interesting too. So you see, Bill O 'Reilly evidently has a show, and he interviewed Ben Shapiro. I found this to be kind of interesting in a way because there was a time where Bill O 'Reilly was the biggest host in cable news and he hosted the conservative, the biggest conservative show. And Ben Shapiro was the biggest conservative podcaster. And now, well, I don't know, Rob, if you if you saw some of the clips of this or watch the whole interview. One of the things I found very interesting about it is that the whole, even the whole topic, even all of the questions that, that, that O 'Reilly is asking Shapiro are just, you can see how much the Overton window has moved and how much it's even affected like old guys, like a Bill O 'Reilly, like on his hit cable news show, these never would have been the questions that he would be asking Ben Shapiro, which is never would have even been the topic of conversation.

49:16but a lot was discussed. I found it rather interesting. I will say one of the things I find interesting as you, as you put your finger right on it with Mark Levin, like he hates you. There is something about that with Ben Shapiro to the amount of contempt both these men have is really something. Again, don't get me wrong. I not claiming that I don't have contempt back for these men, but you know, my contempt is over you trying to push our country into war. Whereas your contempt is over Americans maybe wanting to have a vacation with their family and not paying more on behalf of Israel. So it's a little different.

49:51Anyway, let's roll the first clip. I got a couple here. Here is O 'Reilly and Shapiro. Now, Jon Stewart's a Jewish man. And you know that I have a long history with Stewart. And we've always been respectful. It's always worked out well. Well, but Stuart's a good example you bring up. There are many famous, influential Jewish Americans. I'm not going to say they justify the anti-Semitism. I think that's. Oh, no, they do. I'll say it. I'll say it. They do. I mean, they do. You and I would probably differ then. They enable it, okay? So I don't see Stewart going back to his nice place on the Jersey Shore, jumping up and down, that anti-Semitism is on the rise.

50:45I don't see that. We pause here. Can you pause that for a second? Yeah, pause it for a second. I got to say, there is something so remarkable about just how dumb Bill O 'Reilly's whole like framing always is i remember bill o'reilly actually used to his show was entertaining to watch it was so stupid but it was like dumb fun kind of dumb but isn't it just already the framing of just being like okay well you say john stewart does hate jews i say he just enables all these people who hate jews and then bill o'reilly actually says imagine just hearing this like out loud. I don't see Jon Stewart going back to his home and jumping up and down about anti-Semitism.

51:28I don't see that. Like, what did you just say? What just came out of your face? Was that supposed to be a thought? It's true. You don't see that. You don't see what he does at home at all, that you're starting with something that you don't see and then concluding that you don't see it, then repeating in an astonished tone that you don't see it to give the illusion of a point being made anyway. But why on earth should John? Here's the position you have, right? That Bill O 'Reilly, they just think about how weird this is, Rob. Bill O 'Reilly is talking to Ben Shapiro and he's going, why isn't this other Jew jumping up and down about racism?

52:18on his way back to his mansion? That's the question. Well, take this in for a second. The conservative Bill O 'Reilly and the conservative Ben Shapiro, think about what they've made their careers off of. They are going, why isn't the outrageously successful Jewish person a part of an outrageously successful Jewish people in the United States of America, why is he not jumping up and down crying about racism and how it's wrong? And obviously the fact that he's not indicates something, right? We can debate whether the correct thing to extrapolate from that is that he is himself a vicious Jew hater or he just enables vicious Jew hatred.

53:13But you understand we're saying the fact that a very outrageously successful person from a very outrageously successful minority group is not screaming about racism, that is indicative of something. It's almost like, let me try to see if I could put this in more simple terms, Rob. Maybe it's not enough to be passively not racist. one must be actively anti-racist i guess would be another way to put that jumping up and if i don't see you jumping up and down anti-racist then you are a racist uh all fair points i was more picking up on the uh false framing that uh criticizing the state of israel and not supporting the iran war makes you an anti-semite and i'm of the belief that the people who try and pretend that if you criticize the actions, what Israel did in Gaza, or you try and criticize how much lobbying power Israel has that were involved in this.

54:14And you try and pretend that that's anti-Semitism. You actually do create anti-Semitism because you're pulling a little weaselly Jew trick and everyone sees it. And that creates real anti-Semitism. And this is just playing with the false framing that someone like someone like Ant. So I actually think if someone like Jon stewart is criticizing the actions of israel it keeps people from actually being anti-semites the only thing that makes you the only thing that makes that anti-semitism is if you are of the false belief that criticizing the actions of israel makes you an anti-semite which it does not and so this entire conversation exists within that false framing yes absolutely absolutely true All right, let's keep playing.

55:00I see Jon Stewart defending the radical elements, as you just pointed out. Not going to turn on them, mainly because of his audience. But the larger question is, Mdami got the majority of Jewish voters in New York City. That's stunning, is it not? So I can explain this pretty easily. So this is a category error. So Jews, they kind of cross a variety of categories. The big question about Jews, are Jews a religion? Are Jews an ethnicity? Are Jews a tribe? What exactly are Jews? So when we talk about Jews and how Jews vote, typically we are talking about people who self-identify as Jews, meaning they were born into a Jewish family and maybe they had an occasional bagel.

55:47If you're looking at people who actually care about Jewish practice, who care about Jewish philosophy, who care about Israel, which is a part of Jewish practice, Right. I mean, as an Orthodox Jew, we pray, for example, for the restoration of Jerusalem three times a day. And this has been a regular thing in Judaism for several thousand years. Let's pause it right. And so let's pause it right here, because it is truly just despicable what Ben Shapiro is doing here. And this is a trick. It's a conscious trick. He knows exactly what he's doing. But so here what he's going to say, right, essentially, is that you don't count as a Jew.

56:22and when we're talking about Jews we're only talking about the real Jews like me people who really believe the religion people who actually know what they're talking about we're not just talking about the people or something like that right and now he's going to um he's going to say that oh for the rest of Jews I don't know it's like eating bagels or something like that but you're even completely but if you're a real Jew then is that your religion supporting Israel is part of that religion, then that is what real Judaism means. Now, first of all, let's just be clear here. It's like, okay, okay.

56:56If you want to draw this distinction between like, say like, so I'm not a Jew is what Ben Shapiro is saying, right? If I'm not, I don't go to temple regularly. I'm not a religious observing Jew. Therefore I'm not a Jew or whatever, something like that. Okay, fine. But then let's be consistent. So then there's two things here. Number one, you just admitted that support for a foreign country is a religious obligation for you.

57:25sorry you can't get offended when people point that out and criticize it then now then it's not then if that's part of judaism then you can't say it's anti-semitic for me to point that out because now you've made that part right so dual loyalty is no longer an anti-semitic trope ben shapiro because you just said it's part of our religious duty to do that but then also So if you want to delineate these things this way, fine. But then keep that consistency. Then Hamas didn't kill a bunch of Jews on October 7th, right? I mean, they killed some, maybe, Rob, right? At the music festival? How many of those were Jews?

58:05Israel isn't a Jewish state, really, Rob. The majority of Israel isn't Jewish, right? I mean, this changes everything if you're going to throw it around this way. But no, you want to claim the entire group when convenient and then switch and act like we're talking about a whole different thing. It's not a category error. It's a deception technique. Yes, there's a difference between religious Jews and Jews the people, but we all already knew that, right? All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is Prolon by El Nutra. Look, everybody sets health goals, and many of us fall short of them, but we'd all like to be a little bit healthier.

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1:00:00to get 15 % off site-wide plus a$40 bonus gift when you subscribe to their five-day program. That's prolonlife.com slash POTP for 15 % off site-wide plus a$40 bonus gift when you subscribe to the five-day program. Prolonlife.com slash POTP. All right, let's get back into the show. I don't know, any thoughts on this, Rob? I don't know which part of the people Jews you are or if you are one anymore. It's infuriating for all the reasons that you described. and you have religious Jews who are against the state of Israel. And Tariqarta would be the best example. Those are the guys who get out there and protest the Israeli day parade.

1:00:38And then you also get secular Jews. So are you condemning that Jerry Seinfeld doesn't get an opinion on Israel? He's pro-Israel, but he's not a practicing Jew. And then also when you're praying, Ben Shapiro, when you're praying in the morning, and by the way, there's a lot of prayers. He asked for health. There's a lot of stuff in there. But I don't even know which line of the 18 blessings, which is like kind of like the biggest part of the prayer ceremonies, particular for Israel. I just don't remember. But are you praying for the current nation state of Israel? Is that what the prayer is about?

1:01:08Isn't it about like a Messiah and a restoration of the temple and like a religious government? I mean, is there anything about that text that applies to the current secular government of Israel? That's what you think you're praying for when you're standing in synagogue and you're praying to God. You're praying that God supports the current state of Israel, that the current Netanyahu is supposed to go out there and build the temple. That's what you think is the is the religion and what's in there. Or is the state of Israel truly a religious state? Are they operating on Old Testament law? You know what I'm saying?

1:01:46Like gay marriage is legal in Israel. They have like a huge LGBTQ population. They brag about this when convenient. By the way, if Ben Shapiro was ever bragging about the contributions that Jews have made to society, something, Rob, I bet you there's a video of Ben Shapiro bragging about. Do you think he didn't count the secular Jews? Did he only count the religious Jews? Or is this a when convenient we retreat to this position? I'll let you guys figure that out. just fits into the false framing that you know people can point out it's not anti-semitic to be jewish and criticize israel because look how many jews who live in america don't actually endorse the killing of innocent civilians in gaza and they're not anti-semitic and so then this goes i mean and also how much worse does that make religious jews look well if you were actually practicing the real religion then obviously you're in favor of the killing of innocent civilians Yes.

1:02:42And also, I guess I should say, because there's another point that I guess could be made here where, you know, they start with the conversation being like, hey, why, you know, Jon Stewart won't condemn the radicals. And so that's how we know he really kind of agrees with them. Meanwhile, the radicals that you speak of are the only ones in Jon Stewart's political world who are standing up and saying, we think what Israel did to Gaza is wrong and we shouldn't be fighting this war in Iran. And so maybe that's why he doesn't want to condemn the radicals because he agrees with them on that. But then the point is that they also, Rob, are so reliant on pretending that something different is happening.

1:03:29Look, how many of them have said that Mamdani is a jihadist or that he loves Hamas? But the thing is, I can't find any evidence of that anywhere. And I say this as someone who doesn't like Mamdani, who hates socialism, who doesn't like it. You know, I was talking to a couple of friends of mine, like people I grew up with, Jews from New York City. They're telling me over this week, I haven't talked to these guys in a little bit. They're telling me about how, what's his name, the guy who just won in Michigan and just won his Democratic primary there. They're telling me about how he said that we deserved 9-11.

1:04:02And I'm like, no, he didn't. That's Hassan Piker's quote that you're quoting. But Hassan Piker said that and then he apologized for that and then he said he didn't really mean that. And then they asked this guy about the quote and he goes, no, absolutely. That's ridiculous. I don't agree with that at all. Of course, that's not true. But they're to them. They're just like, no, he said that. So then they feel like you're not condemning the thing. But he didn't say that. It's not even a thing. And honestly, Rob, do you not? If listen, I'm not even going to argue with someone who wants to tell me that Mom Donnie secretly is a jihadist or that some of these guys secretly have these awful views or whatever.

1:04:38But like if mom, Donnie ever came out and actually said something against Jews, actually said something anti-Semitic, like what would me and you consider to actually be an anti-Semitic statement? Well, we would consider anything that's not just like blasting of if you're not blasting a person for what they did and you were just like lumping in a random Jewish person to we should keep our eyes on these Jews. We really got to because you can see what they do in Israel. So we got to keep our eye on these shifty Jews here at home. That would be something I think that me and you would go, oh, that is legitimately anti-Semitic.

1:05:09That's actually, you know, like, you know, whatever. Jon Stewart would stand up and criticize that. We all know that. Like if he came out and said something like that, we all know for a fact Jon Stewart, the next J. Jon Stewart would be like, what the fuck? No, we don't agree with that at all. So it's just like, it's also this, they're working off of this foundational claim that just isn't true. It's just not true that these guys are saying all types of shit about how awful Jews are and nobody's standing up against it. It's not the case. So the whole thing is just it's all just imaginary. It's two men in suits and ties sitting here pretending they're analyzing a thing.

1:05:48The thing isn't even real. There is no thing there. It's really quite hilarious. All right. We're going to wrap up there. Catch you guys tomorrow with a brand new episode. Peace. Oh, come out and see us this weekend. comic, Dave Smith.com. What's the town again, this week weekend, Rob, Porsche store.com Chicago. And then you and I are doing Appleton, Wisconsin. And then, which you can take us for that at comic, Dave Smith.com. And then I'm doing Madison on Sunday. Hell yeah. All right. Catch you guys tomorrow. Peace.

1:06:30Thank you.