Cristiano Ronaldo x Piers Morgan Part 2 | On Trump, Jota, World Cup & More

6 Nov 2025 · 44 min · 12 chapters

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In short

Cristiano Ronaldo (with Piers Morgan) discusses Portugal’s recent tragedy (Diogo Jota’s death), his views on fame and privacy, loyalty and friendships, fitness and longevity, goal-scoring evolution, and debates about the GOAT and the World Cup. He also tells two hunger/loyalty stories from his youth, including meeting the McDonald’s ladies who fed him at Sporting Lisbon at age 13.

Guests

Cristiano Ronaldo is the main guest; Piers Morgan is the interviewer. Also mentioned: Diogo Jota (Liverpool forward, died at 28 with his brother in a crash), Jose Semedo (Ronaldo’s youth connection; now CEO of Al Nassr), and Wayne Rooney, plus public figures like LeBron James, Novak Djokovic, and Donald Trump.

Key claims

Ronaldo says life is fragile and he plans only short-term; he avoids cemeteries and doesn’t attend funerals to prevent “circus” attention. He credits consistency (gym 2–3x/week) and mental focus for finishing better after age 25. He argues Saudi league quality should be counted and says Portugal’s World Cup success wouldn’t define him.

Notable examples

Ronaldo’s McDonald’s burger story and later airport recognition; adding a fifth bed to keep a friend at the academy; Ronaldo’s “4am club” loyalty concept; his CR7 “playing for peace” message to Trump; and his belief he can keep scoring into his 40s.

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Chapters

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Cristiano's Reflection on Loss

0:00 to 1:30

Cristiano Ronaldo discusses the tragic loss of his colleague Diogo Jota.

“I win three titles for Portugal history.”

Coping with Grief and Public Perception

1:30 to 4:40

Ronaldo explains his decision not to attend the funeral and addresses public criticism.

“This is why something that I mentioned before, that you have to enjoy the moments and don't plan much to the future.”

Lighthearted Moments and Birthdays

4:40 to 6:40

A humorous exchange about birthdays and the implications of Cristiano's presence.

“You know, this show, Auschwitz, is life sometimes.”

Memories of Kindness and Loyalty

6:40 to 9:30

Ronaldo shares a touching story about receiving help during his youth at McDonald's.

“you were so hungry at the Sporting Lisbon Academy that you and a friend would, you'd go to a local McDonald's and you would hang around the back and two ladies in the McDonald's would give you free burgers.”

The Journey of Friendship and Success

9:30 to 12:00

Ronaldo and Piers discuss the journey of his friend who is now a CEO.

“I'm gonna do something beautiful and special for that people who helped me in that period.”

The Importance of Relationships

12:00 to 14:00

Ronaldo emphasizes the significance of family, friends, and loyalty in life.

“So I challenge you to make an interview to you because he's a very, very interesting person.”

Friendship and Loyalty

14:00 to 28:55

Cristiano Ronaldo discusses the importance of family and friendships in life.

“Friends or people who worked with you or with you, they are different.”

Cristiano Ronaldo on Portugal's Legacy

29:04 to 30:45

Cristiano discusses the history and significance of Portugal's football achievements.

“Oh, one of the best for many of people, yes.”

Ronaldo vs. Beckham: A Personal Comparison

30:46 to 32:43

Cristiano and Piers compare their looks and public personas, discussing celebrity perceptions.

“It depends on the perspective of the people.”

Ronaldo's Admiration for Trump

32:44 to 35:38

Cristiano shares his views on Donald Trump and his desire to discuss peace with him.

“and he used to come to my house for a tea.”
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Debating Fame: Ronaldo vs. Trump

35:39 to 38:28

Piers and Cristiano debate who is more famous, touching on social media and celebrity culture.

“But I think that he believes in peace, not war.”

The Burden of Fame

38:29 to 40:06

Cristiano expresses his feelings about fame, success, and the desire for a more private life.

“Right now, you and Donald Trump, both together.”
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0:00Before Portugal, never won nothing. I win three titles for Portugal history. For me, it's more easy to score in Spain than to score in Saudi. You lost one of your colleagues. You didn't attend his funeral. Two things. Who was the most famous, me or President Donald Trump? What do you think?

0:22I want to talk about another very sad thing that happened to you recently. You lost one of your Portugal colleagues. Diogo Jota, and it was an unbelievably shocking thing to happen. Where were you when you heard that he had died with his brother in this crash? I was with Gio alone in our period of rest. I was there in the gym in the morning with Gio.

0:53I didn't believe when they sent me messages. I'm crying a lot. You can confirm that. I don't... It was very, very difficult moments for the country, for families, for friends, for teammates. are the vast, very, very, very sad news. He's 28 years old. Yeah. At the peak of his game, he was playing at Liverpool. Everything was going so well for him. And just reminded you how fragile life can be, right? This is why something that I mentioned before, that you have to enjoy the moments and don't plan much to the future. This is why my guys, they can confirm I'm not planning now. not just because of that situation but before also with my kids that happened I'm not planning things with the in the long terms only short terms because everything can change in one and one moment or another moment so we have to be happy to be here and live the moments enjoy the life because the future only God knows.

2:10But it was a short moment. We still feel the aura there in the national team when you put the shirt. Because Diogo, it was one of us. What kind of guy was he? Very good guy, a quiet guy. A good player as you know. But very, how do you say, he's not a guy that speaks too much. So it was very, how do you say the words? Level-headed? Yes. Yes. I really like, I like it to meet him, to share with him so great moments. But it was sad. Sad. I had the opportunity to speak with their family and to give support because these moments we cannot. Because he's a beautiful young wife and children. I mean, this was nothing.

3:09Everything is gone because of one moment. So we have to enjoy the life. So it's hard. You didn't attend his funeral and your sister responded to people who were sort of raising questions by saying on social media that you just didn't want to turn the whole thing into an unnecessary circus with too much attention on you. Is that really what you were thinking? Two things. People criticize me a lot. As I say, I don't care about that because when you feel your conscience is good, free, you don't have to be worried about what the people say. But one of the things I don't do, it's after my father died, I've never been in a cemetery again.

3:58And second, as you say and you mentioned good, and you know me and you know my reputation, whatever I go is a circus. You know, I don't go also because if I go, the attention goes from me and I don't want this kind of attention. And I saw, and I'm not criticized, I just say that I didn't like it. when you go in some sensitive moment to do interviews, to speak about him, to speak about football. Come on, guys, what is this? You know, this show, Auschwitz, is life sometimes. I'm not part of that. If you want to be part of this world, good luck. I'm going to be on the other side. people can continue to criticize me or they criticize my but it's gone already I felt good with my decision I don't need to be in the first line people see me I don't want to speak good because Christian is coming I know I planning the things I thinking about his family I don't need to be in the cameras just for the people seeing what I do I do behind the scenes my friends I feel better than that, but they do it's a big propaganda and big publicity by my name, but it's okay.

5:30No problem. I understand. And to change the conversation for funny way. If you want to enjoy in a birthday, don't invite me because if I go to your birthday, it's going to be a big mess. No, no, that's fine with me. Don't invite me. You're going to enjoy more, much more without Cristiano. Trust me. I turned 60 this year and I'm going to... Don't invite me, please. And I want you to come and ruin it. You can come and be the star of the show. The big dog's here. Don't invite me. Because you're not going to enjoy. No, I wouldn't. You know why? Because the people, they're going to say to your friends, listen, guys, Christiane is coming.

6:06You don't know my friends. Don't take pictures. You don't know my friends. They're going to drink two glasses of wine in the middle of the night. They're going to say, please take a picture with me. Yeah. We'll be a big mess. My friends drink a lot more than two glasses of wine. Secondly, I will do anything for the Instagram. and you at my party, of course, it's going to blow up the internet. I'll take any circus you want to bring. It's not a problem. No, I'm not going to be. You're going to enjoy more. Trust me, please. The first interview we did in Turim, you were at Juventus, and you revealed a story which was really extraordinary, that when you were like 13, you were so hungry at the Sporting Lisbon Academy that you and a friend would, you'd go to a local McDonald's and you would hang around the back and two ladies in the McDonald's would give you free burgers.

6:55And you were so grateful to them because you were so hungry, literally hungry. And we tried everything after that to find them. And then I hear that you were walking through an airport and you randomly researched. Yes, yes. And you randomly bumped into one of them. Tell me about that. Wow, that was a funny story. I learned from Ghiad to Lisbon. When I take off there, we are in a private area. And one of my friends, they say, Christiane, look what I see here. And I look at it. You know when you see some person and you recognize straight away even 20 years after. And I was with my kids and with you and everyone.

7:42and I give a big hug to the girl and even my kids say, Daddy, what you do? And also, Gio, look at me, and I tell them the story, and it was like a moment that I feel like, wow, the life is a box of surprises you never expect this moment. and it was good and I was I spoke with my with my my friends we are already know who is the people and the percent and pretty soon I will do something something special I promise when I say something I try to promise and I will do it under percent and one of the person who was that girl so this is we already have What did she say when she saw you? Did she know that?

8:36She was a little bit on shock because she never expected that I would recognize her. In the same way, when she saw me she said, It's Cristiano, maybe she's not gonna not even speak with me. Did she realize you had been that boy who then she did? Yes, and she told me one thing, she said, Cristiano, you never imagined. Every time that you come to Portugal, I know because I'm... I work behind the scenes and I plan to come in here to receive you, just to see you and they always make me a part. And this moment, because one of the persons that didn't come, I replaced. This is why I come. And I was so happy, I said listen, this is the life.

9:22The life is brilliant because of that and it's all about moments, chapters and everything. And I said to my friends to keep our number and we're gonna do something when I'm gonna have time. I'm gonna do something beautiful and special for that people who helped me in that period. Amazing story and what's even more incredible is that your new CEO Al Naseer Yes. is a guy called Jose Semedo, he's sitting standing right over there and he was the other guy with you. Yes. Queuing up for the McDonald's from those ladies, he was 13, you were 13 and he was telling me a story. which says a lot about you that he was actually going to be let go from the academy and you, age 13, went to see the head of the academy and you pleaded with him to keep your friend and you added a fifth bed to a little dormitory of about four beds, it was very tight you added a fifth bed and he allowed your friend to stay and he went on to become a professional footballer himself played in Premier League, played in other leagues and came here and is now the new CEO about the scene, apparently doing very well.

10:33I think he told me that actually. But what an amazing journey you two have been on. I think - You both are age 14. When you were 14, you had no money, you were hungry, you were queuing for burgers, and now you're here together living the truth. Look at life, how brilliant. Amazing, huh? I love it. Sometimes when I'm thinking and speak about this kind of moments, I feel emotional, you know, because life is brilliant and God's make you in a place where you deserve. And I'm going to make a challenge for you. I think you should probably make an interview to him. Yes. Because you're going to love it.

11:10He's a very, very, very, very interesting guy. No, no, I've already got the headline. It's not because he's here with me, but... And he's not in CEO of Al Nassar because he's my friend, no. He has huge potential, and everyone's our surprise. It's easy when you are around a friend, people, to say that. but speak with other people other ones and they say the work that they do the potential that they have and one of the best qualities for me I will always put in the top loyalty loyalty honest to then take nothing which does not belong to you and these people is very rare in the world especially especially in the football yeah and especially when it's around a lot of money and you don't buy these people in Carrefour or, you know, you don't buy these people in Amazon.

12:04No, no, no, no. So I challenge you to make an interview to you because he's a very, very interesting person. We've already discussed it. And in fact, we're going to call it the truth about Cristiano, the real story, what he doesn't want the world to know. Perfect. He's going to go popular. And that story is true. But he can mention so many stories are good ones. I know. He's actually a fascinating guy. He's a fashion actor guy. I know how important he's been to you since you were 14. But he made it clear to me that without you, he wouldn't have stayed at the academy and he may never have played football professionally.

12:38So it's been a... I just do it my best. As you know, I'm a loyal guy too. So the loyal guy should be next to the loyal people. And this is what I did that I think they're supposed to do. But I was 12 years old. My mind was like that. But I don't know how to explain. You know, sometimes in your life you do it or you do it mistakes and you do it to good things that you not even realize that what is correct and what is false. But I did what I think it was correct. And not because in that moment, of course, in that moment I like him, but not like now. Now it's like part of my family. I don't need to say that.

13:24but I'm tell you as well Piers my people around me they are fantastic people I'm lucky I'm lucky not just Zemeh because Zemeh is one of the best but also I have other people on my team he's a special guy but I have I have I'm lucky I'm lucky but also the lucky to have lucky it brings effort you need effort and many of the guys who are with me, it's the guys that are inviting to come to be next to me. It's not like the family. Family, you're born with that family. Friends or people who worked with you or with you, they are different. Sometimes you need to choose. I call it the 4am club. And what I mean is...

14:124am club. Who could you call at 4am and they would get out of bed and they'd come and help you? These people. I know your guys and they're fantastic. incredibly loyalty and very protective, rightly. Yeah, but I think they feel the same about you. And that's what's unusual. They have great respect for you. What we take from this life, it's family and friends, you know, relationships, chapters, whatever you have. If you don't have good people around you, you're not going to be happy. So this is what I think. And I repeat, I have, I'm a lucky guy that not because I have good family, but I also have very, very, very good friends.

14:58Not just because they work for me, I call them my friends, because anyway, they are friends. Even if they want other challenges, I'm never going to close their door, but they always will be my friends. So for me, it's a bless. Tell me about your fitness. I look good. You're looking very good, right? I mean, obviously you haven't got these abdominals. We've addressed that before. But you're working at it, and I think you're making good progress. They're pretty... Are they, like... Do you mind if I just... Yeah, it's like hitting granite. Not quite the same. Not quite the same here, but... They say you've got a body of, like, a 28-year-old.

15:39That's what I've read. That's what your team all think, right? Do you feel that? I mean, do you feel that... You don't look 40, and you have the physique of a 40-year-old. No, I'm not. Physically, I think I look much more younger, of course, because I start to do it gym since 12, 13, 14, 15. Do you go every day? Do you do something every day? No, not every day, but I try to maintain a consistency in my life. But do you do something every day? Do you do something physically? I sleep good. I do good routines. I do a good recover. I work good in the gym two or three times per week of weights. Two times per week for me is enough.

16:20I burn because of football, you know. It's just consistency. If you have consistency, it's easy, trust me. Which athletes in modern history do you look at as great examples that maybe have inspired you in terms of the way they take care of themselves? Inspiring me? Inspiring you, yeah. I'm inspiring by myself. Who have you looked at where you think… I saw good examples in other sports as well. For example, I don't know, basketball, LeBron James. I think we are the same age. I met him the other day. Very nice guy. I have more hair than him. You do, and he's earning golf, but he's not very good.

17:01Now's a good time to play him at golf. But I think it's good because he still plays football, basketball, and he's in good shape. other ones Modric still looking good yeah what's he 41 now Modric I think 39 40s Djokovic so Novak is here he's playing in this in the six kings thing and he said yesterday you're one of his role models he named you for wanting to continue playing into his 40s because they all saying look now that Sinner and Alcaraz are kind of the new top guys will you retire? And he's like, actually, I want to keep going. I want to keep proving to myself I can keep going. And he named you as the example.

17:46So you're inspiring him. And it probably feels good, right? Of course. The greatest tennis player in history. I think it's good when you have other sports, other people, they speak good about your name. It means a lot. And Novak is a great example of greatness in the sport. So it's good. I'm glad from his words. Do you feel now, obviously you're probably not as quick as you were, so, you know, the initial you were a winger, a flying winger, you've changed your position, the way you play football and so on, but do you think as an actual goal scorer, because your record for Portugal recently has been insane, you've obviously been scoring enormous number of goals here in Saudi Arabia, and your record says 30, has got better than it was in the previous period of your career, But do you think you're a better natural finisher now than you've ever been?

18:41I think I've always been a good, a top finisher, I think. Probably more, I'm focused more on that because, as you mentioned, by the age you start to lose some things and you have to improve other things. And some things that you always can improve is mentally. and this is what I'm focused to be mentally good fresh because the brain you don't go faster you not get older faster in the brain more you feel more physically I mean professional players and I am I'm adapt you know and this is But finisher, finisher, of course, with the first three, four, five years, I wasn't very, very, very good. I was good, but not top.

19:35But after 25, I think I was very similar. If you ask my teammates, if you ask my friends, they will say the same. Probably more. Now I'm more focused on that. Right. Because I'm playing, I'm not winger anymore, and I played the last... Well, I watched your score the other day, and it's just your movement. Because I think in the penalty area, look, I'm not going to tell you how to score goals, but in the penalty area, a lot of it is last-minute movement, I think, by the top strikers. It's their ability to get away from a defender very quickly in the box. You should refresh, man. Right. And I watched the way you took them, and they look relatively easy, right?

20:18They don't look like that goal you just showed me. But the movement and the awareness, and then the finish, that's not easy. If it was, everyone would do it. Of course. So that's an instinctive thing, isn't it? I think so, yes. Instinctive things you learn by the time, you learn by the experience. And one thing that I think makes the difference is you can improve all the time. Even with my age, you have some points that you can improve. And this is the biggest mistake of the players. They think they know everything and they don't learn more. If you see an instance of the football, the players, after when they get 30s, they slow down.

20:57And I'm opposite. I score more goals after 13. You can say whatever they want because most of the times the people speak about football. They don't know nothing. Wayne Rooney, your old colleague, said last week that he doesn't hate you. People have said that he did. He loves you. He called you a genius. He said you're much closer than people realise. But he still said Messi's better. No problem. No problem. That's a very diplomatic answer, Christian. No, but it's serious. I'm not mad with that. For me, it's okay. You can choose whatever you want. Did you get on well with Wayne? Did you have a friendship with him or not, really?

21:41When we used to play, we had a good relationship. Not friends like me, that kind of friends, the relationship that I have with these guys. and they come in one time per week or two to have a dinner with me or lunch. But we have good relationship. In football, I don't have friends that they come in my house for a lunch or a dinner. When I mean friends, I have good relationship, but friends, friends for me, it's a different word. For me. But relationship was good. Like Ferdinand was a friend, yes. I still maintain his relationship with him. I'm a sociable man. I respect him. It's like in Al-Assad, I'm good with everybody.

22:25But friend, friend, I think it's a very, very, very deep word, in my opinion. But I'm nothing against him, trust me, Piers. It's okay. Hey, it's... It's own things, it's... What he loved the most, players or decision makers of... For me, it's not a problem, you know. I respect him, I respect him. More when we play, because I think he... He do so many good things for Manchester United. we won so many things together, but it's OK. And these words that he say, thank you to him. That he say that I'm a genius, whatever he prefers, no problem, no problem. For me, it's all good. If I see him around, I'm shaking his hand, I give you a hug.

23:24For me, it's not a problem. I don't have time to be against people anymore. It's OK, I respect everybody. The goals are the ultimate answer to any criticism, aren't they? I mean, if you're a striker, if you just keep scoring at the rate you score, and like I said, they can look at the Saudi league and say it's always good. Ah, excuses. But actually, look at Portugal, is what I say. Look at your record for Portugal. It recently has been off the charts. Excuses. Yeah. Excuses is the most simple way for everything. Excuses, excuses, excuses. because year by year, year by year, I scored more. Even in a bad year, I scored 25 goals.

24:06If I play in Premier League now, in a top team, I will score the same. Well, the last season you played, last full season. Easy. If I have a good team with 14 years old, I will score the same. Your last season in the Premier League, full season, you got 18 Premier League goals. I think one below Harry Kane or the same as Harry Kane and six Champions League goals. Well, any team would take us away. I don't need to speak because they can say whatever they want, but the numbers they don't like. They can say Saudi League. They've never been here. They've never played here. They don't know what to run with 40 degrees.

24:41They don't know. And I still continue and I repeat. The Saudi League, the Saudi League, is much better than Portuguese League, of course. French League is only PSG. Premier League is good, of course, it's the number one. And they should count even, they should count like the goals to be the top scorer, the golden ball. Why they don't count Saudi League? Why? You see, look how many players, top players we have in the league. Check. Ask the other players if the league is good. Don't ask to me because it's easy to ask me because I'm always saying that, I could say that, because he played in Saudi.

25:23No, no. No, listen, I play everywhere. Everywhere. For me it's more easy to score in Spain than to score in Saudi. By the way, do you accept that you're only here because of me in that interview? Probably. So given you're now a billionaire and you made probably half of it here. I wasn't... Where's my cut? Where's my commission? Yeah. You're on the verge of what would be a truly, even by your standards, incredible achievement, a thousand goals. No one's ever come close to this. Is there a scenario in your head, given the timing, that you might score your thousandth goal at the World Cup next year?

26:05And is that something that, quietly in the back of your mind, you would think? No, I'm not. I don't think about that. And maybe I was surprised with my answer. If you ask me, Christian, it's a dream to win the World Cup. No, it's not a dream. Well, yes. To win the World Cup, none will change my name in the state of football. I'm not going to lie. One thing that I'm sure is that I enjoy the moment. And I learn by the time that the moment is the most important thing that we have. We are not qualified already. Enjoy the moment. The moment is good. I played three days ago in Hungary in a sporting stadium.

26:53Maybe it was my last game in that stadium. You never know. I'm enjoying it. My mum was there, my family was there, and it was good. And people say, Cristiano will be the greatest if he wins the World Cup. I'm not agreeing. I win three titles for Portugal. You know my view of this. I believe you are the greatest footballer to ever play the game. Thank you. You also know there's a raging debate, right, I say Messi is not even the best Argentinian. Maradona was better than them. How many World Cups win Argentina before Messi? How many? I don't know. Two times? Yeah, it won't be two, I think. But it's normal.

27:29These countries are used to win big competitions. Brazil. If they win the World Cup, they will surprise the world. No. If Portugal win the World Cup, which is possible, they will shock the world. Yes. But in my mind, I don't think in that way. Of course, you want to win. Yeah, when you compete, you want to win. I'm honest. For me, it's not going to change the way I see the things and the way I see the football. Do you believe you've earned the right to be considered the greatest of all time? If you've ever tried to hire someone in another country and immediately hit a wall of paperwork, compliance rules, and back-and-forth approvals, you know how fast that excitement can turn into a headache.

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29:36I win. We won. Three titles for Portugal history. Before Portugal, never won nothing. I'm glad, I'm so happy. You would love it, Cristiano, to win the World Cup. Yeah, but not a... Which session? No, understand what you're saying. I swear for my kids. But I still think that image of you, if it's true... I don't agree. I'm not agree. Really interesting. Yes, no, I'm not agree. Because Portugal never won the World Cup. Yeah, but they can win. Yes, we're going to fight for that. But it shouldn't define you as a player. No. We define when you're 14 years old or 41, to define what? To define if I'm one of the best of history.

30:16To win one competition, six games, seven games. You think it's fair? It's not fair. When you go to the World Cup in America, David Beckham is the sort of most, along with Messi now, but Beckham is the kind of guy that went to America and became this sort of superstar. you play with Beckham you compare to Beckham a lot not least your looks I'm not going to compare the football because to me he's not in the same league as you as a footballer however do you think you're better looking than David Beckham? Depends Are you more handsome?

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30:50Depends Depends because for me the looking is not only the face the looking is all package Like this If you put me not any moment imagine Cristiano yeah not Cristiano a normal guy with the speedos red speedos in a Copacabana to drink coconut water you think I'm not gonna get a chance with nobody no you're gonna do well okay so you're gonna do better than me I can actually confirm you can do better than me nobody Nobody noticed. So, yeah, I can't confirm. I'm joking. You're not really. It depends on the perspective of the people. But it's okay. You're looking good. I'm looking good. We're both looking good.

31:42Come on, you and Beckham, you're walking across the Coba Cabana for, say, ten minutes. Who gets the most attention? Not famous? Not famous, just your body. Me. 100%. I knew it. I knew you. Come on, Piers. I agree with you. You agree. Thank you. Let's try to tease it out of you. Thank you. I don't need that, but imagine. Let's imagine something. No one's looking at Beckett. Come on. Come on. He know that. He knows that. His face is beautiful. And some face. The rest is? The rest is normal. Like, it's normal. I'm not normal. I'm... Perfecto.

32:19Also, he has too many tattoos, doesn't he? Don't you think? I don't know. Do you think you should have that surgery? I think it's a color tattoo. Absolutely. Covenant. Hmm. Well, but he looking good. He's a guy that I like. He's a guy who speaks good. I like him. I like him. Do you still talk to Sir Alex Ferguson? I met him at the Champions League final. When I was there in Manchester, I used to speak more with him and he used to come to my house for a tea. He drink tea with the milk. the good man, the person that I'm always going to have in my heart because he's a source, you know, he's a person who really helped me in my life, in my career.

33:03I mean, really, I mean, I don't want to put words in your mouth, but was he, because your father died when you were still very young, do you think he became a bit of a father figure? Father in football, yes. Yeah. Like a guy who guided me, yes. In that way, yes. He was a guy who always maintained his words, what we say, he promised. Very good man and I respect him a lot. Best manager you played under? You've had so many. What I say by the players, I'm kind of saying in the coaches, which is depend. I had the opportunity to work with the best managers in the world. So I'm a lucky person. To mention one for me is not correct, it's not fair.

33:52But many people mention, ah, my favourite player is this one. I'm not that guy. I like to say that all of them help Cristiano to be what I am right now. This President Trump, a friend of mine, was given a CR7 shirt by the Portuguese European Council President, Antonio Costa, in June at the G7 summit. And you wrote on it to President Donald J. Trump playing for peace. What did you mean by that? If the world is in peace, it's our goal. It's one of the guys that can change or help to change the world. And this is my main goal. It's one of the... Listen, one of the most important guys, of course, is U.S.

34:41President. if we can help each other to make this happen because I swear because I can't watch TV. It's been awful. I don't watch. I swear I can't. Sometimes I start to see the news. I can't. I can't. And one of the guys that I want to meet, I wish one day if you have an opportunity, I can make that happen. or tell him that one of the guys that I want to sit to have a nice talk, it was one of the guys. Donald Trump. Donald Trump. Here, the US, whatever he wants. I know he was here in Saudi with our boss, MBS. I wish one day to meet him, to sit with him, because he's one of the persons that I really like him, because I think he can make things happen, and I like people like that.

35:37I mean, I say whatever you think of Trump, and people have very struck what they do about you as well. But I think that he believes in peace, not war. It makes him unusual for a Republican American president. He just, I've spoken to him this many times. He really wants peace. And I admire what he's achieved in stopping the bombing in Gaza. I admire what he's trying to do in Ukraine with Putin trying to stop the bombing. I think these are admirable things for him to be doing. And following what you said to him, I think he's trying to deliver on what you asked. I wish that the world goes for a peace way soon.

36:18This is what I'm looking for. And I will tell them something. Nobody knows this. But maybe one day if you have the opportunity, I'm going to sit with him and I'm going to tell him. Probably, probably no, 100 % they don't know. that we had something in common, something that we shared. Really? Yes. Not in your interview, I will tell you. You can't take a cab to your... It's very nice, you're going to like it. Really? Yes. How fascinating. Fascinating. Christian is a worldwide man. Oh, I know that. Yeah. Now more than before, but... You know what you've done... With 18s, 19s, 20s, I was there in the US so many times.

37:03But this is like taking a camel to the edge of an oasis. But it was funny. And then saying you can't have a drink. You will like it. It's torture. I love this. If you have opportunity one day, tell him. Well, his son, Baron's a big fan of yours. He told me that. Yeah? He's a fan. He loves you. Good. His son is coming as well. Oh, yeah? Okay, well, we get Baron, Donald. Obviously, I'll have to be there. If you want to be, is it allowed? Thank you, Gianna. I'll come as your assistant. Perfect. Perfect. That would be an amazing... I think we can make that happen. I think he'd love to meet you. Perfect.

37:36You're the two most famous people on the planet. Right? You're the most followed person on Instagram. He is the most famous public human being. We'll do it in a debate for the world. Who is the most famous, me or... Or Donald Trump. ...President Donald Trump. In the world. What do you think? Me. Really? You've got more followers on Instagram. You've got more followers than anybody. I think worldwide, even in that small island, they know me more than him. Really? Yes. That's a fascinating debate. You think you'd win that? Yes. You probably would. You probably would. I think in the world, nobody is more famous than me.

38:20Do you think anyone there, because of social media... Tell me one. Well, I'm going to explain. Tell me one. Your opinion. In my opinion, in my lifetime... This generation, now this 2025. Right now, you and Donald Trump, both together. I think it's a very interesting debate. I would say in my lifetime, I would add Princess Diana, probably the queen. But not now. Because they're no longer with us, right? But in my lifetime, and maybe Nelson Mandela, right, would be the most famous, iconic people. But I think right now - Michael Jackson. Michael Jackson at his peak. At his peak. But I think right now it's you and Donald Trump.

38:59It's a good debate. It's a great debate. You're pretty confident. Let's make that happen. I think that'd be great. You see, now it's the map of the world. Have you ever been anywhere where no one's recognized you? 20 years ago, yes. Not anymore. But not now? No. Is there anywhere you could go? Could you go to like an igloo in Iceland and even though they know you're right? Yes. Do you like that? No. It is what it is. I'd quite like that. No, it's… No? It's boring. It's too much? It's boring, yeah, it's too much. It's boring. You could be too famous. I wish to not be so famous. Really? Really. Really.

39:44It's boring, trust me. But if I said to you, all right, Christiane, you can have all the success as a footballer you've had, but you're going to have no fame. Oh, I will sign. You would? Of course. Of course. Of course. Of course. 100%. Fascinating. 100%. I never want to be famous. Never. I want to be successful. I knew it since the beginning when I was young that I will be, let's say, a star. But to be so famous, I never, never, never want it. It's boring, trust me. But it is what it is. I will be born in that way. You're the most famous and the richest and most successful footballer in history.

40:28Not bad. Cristiano. Thank you, Piers. Brilliant to catch up with you. I wish, listen, to don't do an interview with you in three years. I want less. Okay. Less. But before, you will do an interview with my CEO. No, no, definitely. No, I think you would be a great interview. I totally agree. Your story together is unbelievable. and I will do that. And I think my next interview with you could be... And we can do something. Imagine. Me, you, Sir, Mr Trump... Yes. In one table. Yes. It would be fun. I think this is a great idea. Different. Yes. Like around the... At the White House. It would be even better.

41:10Why not? You've got to play. Imagine. I haven't even got to buy an air ticket. No problem. I'll come with you. Something different, beautiful, good conversation. I think he would love it. I mean... to promote the World Cup in his country. What could be better? Oh, look. I'm going to make this happen. Something, okay, perfect. But make sure if I do make it happen, you don't cut me out, all right? We have a deal? We're part of the family. We have a deal? You know that. Christiane, great to see you. Thank you very much. Say my best to all the family. Thank you, thank you, Piers. And congrats on the forthcoming marriage.

41:40Thank you. That's a big moment for a man. Thank you. And if you need a best man, you know where to find me. Okay. I'm good for speeches. Thank you, guys. So, yeah, perfect.

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Part two of Cristiano Ronaldo's most revealing interview ever, with Piers Morgan. They discuss President Donald Trump, Ronaldo’s surprising views about the World Cup, the Lionel Messi debate, why the Saudi league is underrated, the high pressures of fame - and whether he is really the greatest footballer of all time.
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