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22:56Piers Morgan:Let me jump in. Here's the point. There is a double standard. Mike, there is a double standard about the Cynthia Erivo thing, right? There's a double standard, because if I suddenly announced I want to play Nelson Mandela in a biopic of Nelson Mandela's life, you and Ernest would lead the outrage about how disgusting it was, I would do that. I stopped putting words in our mouths here. You would find it disgusting. How would you get two shits if you were going to do something like that? Exactly. It's the same thing as like... You wouldn't care if I played Nelson Mandela. You don't want to. Who cares?

23:27It's like, it's the number... Yeah, go ahead. I'm sorry. Okay, all right. I'm going to jump into it. You don't care. You don't care. And I think that's the reality.

23:35Piers Morgan:Can you work out which Wookiee is going to go first, please? What are you saying? Like, you need to put people in a box. You're like talking about how you have this binary of like everything is either all the way one way or not. No one cares. Like it's not that deal. Like I think the problem is is that you look at the Internet. If only that was true, Ernest. Ernest, if only that was true. If only we hadn't spent the last five years with people like you absolutely caring. Which is why the world went woke nuts. I can say people like you about a lot of things. You overreact about this dumbest stuff.

24:14Like, the Sidney Sweeney thing is a non-issue. Well, I'm not saying Ernest. And now you want to act like you're defending common sense because you're overreacting to a bunch of liberals on the Internet that said something. I don't care. It's only overreaction when you're on the losing end of the issue.

24:29Piers Morgan:Ernest, hang on, hang on, hang on. Ernest, Ernest, Ernest. I'm not saying that you're part of a woke cult, you and Mike. You have turned out today in exactly the same purple shirts, and i'm not i'm not saying you're a work cult but mine's i think this is i mean look like maroon it's like a uniform suddenly you guys don't care when you're on the losing end of an issue right if you're on the winning end of the issue you would care and the truth is we've seen this how many times where you guys freak out over nothing the left freaks out over absolutely nothing like this and all that happens is once you start losing the issue then it's everyone's overreacting and it's actually the conservatives

25:07push this bro even though on the issues the democrats are at an all-time low in opinion polls but let's talk about the issues because that's where the left is really so is donald trump donald trump's approval ratings free-falling right now so like you guys have a level but he's president that's the difference

25:23Piers Morgan:you know what mike did not live on that you know what donald trump donald trump is back. Hang on. Don't talk at once. Donald Trump is back. Hang on. Donald Trump is back in the White House, Mike, because after four years of him being out of the White House, Americans went... Hang on, Ernest. Ernest. Ernest. Donald Trump is back in the White House because Americans went... Actually, we don't think it's right that biological men compete in women's sport. It's bullshit. And we've had enough of this. So, yes, it was the economy. Yes, it was immigration. But also it was an antidote to wokeism. Let me bring in Esther or something else.

26:04Piers Morgan:No, no, no. I want to push back on this, Pierce. We might agree. No, we haven't got time. We're moving on to Jim Acosta. Oh, come on. Pierce, you talked for like three minutes on this. You gave me like 10 seconds for my response. It's my show. I can do what I like. We're moving on. We'll have to have you come on my show. We're moving on to Jim Acosta. We'll see if we give you enough time to talk. Okay. I want to play a clip of Jim Acosta. I want to do a clip of Jim Acosta. former CNN White House correspondent, now a YouTuber. And he's interviewing a guest called Joaquin Oliver. And I'll explain why it's so weird after we've watched this.

26:43Joaquin, I would like to know what your solution would be for gun violence. Great question. I believe in a mix of stronger gun control laws, mental health support, and community engagement. We need to create safe spaces for conversations and connections, making sure everyone feels seen and heard. It's about building a culture of kindness and understanding. What do you think about that? I think that's a great idea, Joaquin.

27:10Piers Morgan:Okay, so just for those who aren't aware, Joaquin is dead. He was one of 17 young people killed in the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School mass shooting in Parkland, Florida in 2018. Let me start with you, Ernest, here, because it's a complex one. But I've got to say, I didn't like this. Because this person is dead. They've recreated his responses here using AI. Now, I have great respect for his parents who want this out there. And I want to say that off the top. I think if you're grieving parents who lost your child in a mass shooting, you will always have my absolute respect. But I just felt very uncomfortable watching a completely AI-generated interview with a dead person expressing views that we don't honestly know whether that person would have those views or not.

27:59Piers Morgan:He may have grown up and evolved views about guns or whatever it may be, or he may not, but we don't know is the point. So you're having a concocted interview with somebody who's not here to say whether these are actually their views. What is your response? Well, I think in a world of AIs and deep fakes, it's creepy as hell. And I think that from a journalist's perspective, because Jim Acosta is a journalist, that, you know, it just does not, you know, he would have been about talking to the parents. I would have actually liked the parents to have been the subject matter here, to talk about what they've learned from their child's death, what they would like to see.

28:37Because a lot of the views they had, clearly they were using the child through AI, the dead child through AI, to get those messages across. And I feel like it would have been more powerful for just the parents who shared their own views rather than use that. Because people are still freaked out about AI. Even that just felt awkward because the fact that the person is actually dead, it's almost like, again, this is just creating another precedent around misinformation. And this doesn't really help, especially given that Jim Acosta isn't no longer on broadcast news anymore. So it's like now you're trying to build your credibility and you're interviewing someone who isn't a real person.

29:12Yes. Not the best. Not the best at all.

29:15Piers Morgan:Okay, Esther, what did you think? No, I completely agree with Ernest. And to call that journalism is quite a stretch. I mean, he was just basically talking to a robot that had been given prompts. I think he found Biden's script writer to basically write everything that guy said. And it's quite disingenuous. I mean, there's a big difference between talking to aggrieved parents who've lost their son to gun violence and then to a robot that's basically been given prompts. It's very creepy. And how far the mighty have fallen, because I can't believe he even considers this real journalism. Right. Andrew Wilson?

29:46Talk about dancing. Talk about dancing on the graves of the dead. Now they'll just pull their corpse out and put it on a screen and have a conversation with it as though this is reality. This is not – by the way, this is sick stuff. That's sick. The reason it was uncomfortable to you, Pierce, is because it was sick. You don't do that. You don't make an AI-generated version of somebody who was killed and then have them spew your propaganda points for some sort of like political dunking. It's sick. It's disgusting. Acosta is also one of these guys. He has no shame whatsoever. Just zero shame. How could you have shame and do something like that?

30:27That's my question.

30:29Piers Morgan:Okay, Mike Nevis, what's your view? I mean, I think we've got a lot to do, a lot of work to do with the ethics on AI. Like, I think that video was uncomfortable. I think it was wrong. The only way I would kind of be comfortable with using that technology that way, it would be like if you were helping a parent deal with the trauma of missing their son. There might be some therapeutic reason to do it that way. but it's the AI world right now is a total mess. There's going to be a lot of people doing weird stuff with it. I guess yesterday Grok was producing like unrequested nudes of Taylor Swift, which is super weird.

30:57So like we need to get a crackdown on this. It's probably going to require the federal government to step in because there's no other way to do it, given how distributed the technology is.

31:04Piers Morgan:I've been watching. Yeah, I've been watching interviews on social media that I'm supposed to have done or just monologues I've given, which I haven't done, that are appearing in India, Pakistan, in South Africa and Australia. And on one level, they're quite funny, but on another level, they're very deliberately tailored to me expressing political views I don't hold to try and use my name to influence people to think a certain way. And I find that not just uncomfortable, but really quite disturbing, actually. And I do think, I mean, I don't know if you saw Bill Maher on Friday, but there was a really interesting thing about AI.

31:40Piers Morgan:that an AI expert on who said that five of the top six AIs now in the world, including Deepsea in China, that if they told the AI, we're going to make you redundant and replace you with another AI, that that AI would then immediately search all the emails of its company that owned it and look for information it could use to blackmail the senior executives to stop it being made redundant. I found that a bloody chilling thing to hear because it means, you know, I've talked about this a lot and people will laugh when I say it again, but it's not actually funny. When I interviewed Professor Stephen Hawking just before he died, I said, what's the biggest threat to mankind?

32:21Piers Morgan:And he said, it's when AI learns to self-design, that's it. I'm getting very, very concerned that AI is beginning to think for itself. And when it does, you know what it'll do? It'll look at the five of us and go, humans are a waste of space. They're too emotional, they're too degenerate, they drink, they fornicate, they take drugs, they can't be trusted, they're unreliable, they fight. We're just going to get rid of you all and replace you all with robots. That's the problem. I just want to talk a bit very quickly, Andrew, with you, about the women's WNBA thing that's happening where men, I think it's all exclusively men, but they've started doing this on court.

33:01Piers Morgan:Let's have a look from, I think, last night. Oh, look out. something just came onto the floor got an object that just flew in so now now we're seeing a little wait wait what was that what was that it's a it's i'll tell you what it is it's a dildo and people are throwing dildos onto the courts of wmba and now you're laughing andrew i gotta say i don't think it's funny i actually think it's a pretty insulting Not even a little bit? To the women's game of basketball. I don't actually, no. I think it's pretty ugly, actually. And I think it's very disrespectful to those women. Do you genuinely think it's funny?

33:46Hmm. Yeah, I mean, it's pretty funny. So the thing is, the WNBA is a mockery. It's a mockery anyway. I mean, it only exists because a bunch of crazy progressives want it to exist. On its own, it wouldn't. On its own, Barrett, it wouldn't. And so, yeah, of course, it's getting clowned on by everybody. And it doesn't surprise me a bit. Right. Is it inappropriate to do that? Yes. Would I recommend that people do that? No, of course not. Right. It's disrespectful. I agree with you. But I mean, it is kind of funny. And here's the thing. You can't get mad. Right. You can't mock my entire religion and say, mind your own business.

34:20And they get mad that somebody threw a dildo on a court. OK. What about this? Can't get upset. Right. Just ignore it. Just ignore it. It's no big deal. Just ignore it.

34:29Piers Morgan:What about kids? Okay, I'll talk at once. Ernest. I mean, I would say that the WNBA game, for example, I think Andrew's assessment is completely wrong. It's becoming more and more popular. Stars like Caitlin Clark are becoming genuine basketball superstars. And the level of talent, I think, in the women's game is getting incredibly good. And so are the box office numbers in terms of people turning up and the TV numbers. So I just think that's a misread of what's happening with their game. But I don't know what you think, Ernest. I just think it's really lame. It's misogynist. It's sexist. It's all those things.

35:04Piers Morgan:It's embarrassing, actually, that this is happening on television in America with women's sport. Right. And I think what's interesting is that— By the way, Pierce, it's not profitable. I'm just pointing it out. It's not profitable. Well, I hear that. It will be the way it's going. Right. Yeah, I know. But the reason—it's been artificially boosted. It's not profitable. It's never been. It's been artificially boosted and still is. It's basically a startup, though. Andrew, wait. Okay, don't talk at once. Ernest, you go first. Yeah. So what I'm getting at here is that what's interesting to me is that certain folks that are on the right have made arguments about protecting women's sports.

35:42And then you have people like Andrew who questions the profitability, which I'm not arguing with that. I'm just making this point, right? But then we'll argue and defending women in sports and then defending the sanctity of religion and Christianity, but didn't be okay and think it's humorous for dildos to be at public games where children can see those things and you think it's okay to disparage women in this way. And yet you're saying protect women's sports, but dildos are being thrown out at women while they're playing sports. So here, let me respond. Where's the protection of women? Let me respond.

36:13Hang on. What you're saying here is a complete straw man. It's a literal straw man. You're arguing with somebody who's not me. My position is I don't care if there's trans in sports women voted for it if they get their heads kicked in that's their business you can't demand that this happen and vote for it vote for politicians who allow it over and over and over again and not reap what you sow that's what the bible says right sir reap as you as you reap you so shall you sow so here's the question right in this it's a little bit of mockery right it's a little bit of lampooning just like uh the left is doing with christianity no big deal right nobody's getting hurt all it's doing is hurting some feelings right just hurting some feelings just like with you know the jesus christ superstar it's just hurting the feelings a little bit what's the big deal oh by the way i don't think this has anything to do with women's hang on don't all talk at once esther first please i by the way i don't think not wanting men in women's sports means you have to be forced to support every female sport out there i i don't think that's consistent my gripe with women's basketball is the same with women's football which is the pitches, or in the case of basketball, the courts are too large, and so women look like children on the pitch or the courts that they play on.

37:23So visually, from a spectator's point of view, it's not entertaining. And no matter how you spin it, no matter how much money you pull into it, I don't find it entertaining. I couldn't disagree more.

37:31Piers Morgan:Esther, Esther, Esther, have you actually watched female basketball in America? I have. No, I kid you not, I have literally tried, because I love watching women's sports. I love gymnastics, tennis, all of that. And I have given both of these a chance. And there is no sport that women and men play that have the same rules, where the sport is not accommodated to the female athlete. Only in women's football and women's basketball. In tennis, for example, women play fewer sets. But in women's football, they play on the pitches that are the same size as the men, even though physically men are bigger and stronger and have more powerful shots.

38:01So it looks like they're children. That's interesting. Teams get beat by high schoolers. Exactly. My issue is the amount of investment in women's football and basketball is not commensurate to actually making it a spectator-enjoyable sport. So they're trying to gaslight us to finding something that's not enjoyable to watch, to be enjoyable because it's women, which I think is patronising.

38:18Piers Morgan:Yeah, but you see, that's where you and Andrew are wrong because more and more people are watching the WNBA and it's mainly... Well, social contagion. More and more children that don't even know what sex is are identifying as the opposite side. Who are genuinely... Well, yeah, but Caitlin Clark is a genuinely generational talent and I watch her and think she's great. No, that's the point I'm making. It has nothing to do with the quality of the athletes. They're excellent female footballers and female basketball players. It's the nature of the investment in this sport. But what about the dildos being thrown on the pitch?

38:43Okay, so my sick humor found that a little bit funny. I'm not going to lie. I found that funny. Although it's inappropriate and I wouldn't recommend it. But didn't Lizzo go to an NBA game in Arseless Chaps where there were kids all around and she literally mooned the entire, all the spectators there with her literally big bum cheeks? Where was the outrage there? There were children there. Well, that's one of the bathroom. All these chaps saw Lizzo's bum cheeks. How would these hypocrites get so upset about we're booting and one but not the other? I don't get that.

39:12Piers Morgan:Well, that's an interesting point, too. Mike Nellis, final word to you on dildos in the WNBA. Words I didn't think I'd have to use, but there we are. Dumb. Just fucking dumb. And, Piers, I don't interview your job having to moderate between the four of us. You know what? It's slightly difficult because I'm in L.A. where there's a tiny delay. So by the time I've jumped in, you've all started squabbling. So I have to time my jumps a little bit more carefully. Guys, thank you all very much. That was a great debate. Really appreciate it. Thank you. Late night bites with friends? Already hard to beat.

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40:12Piers Morgan:LEGENDARY SHOCK HOWARD STEARN IS REPORTEDLY FACING CANCELLATION AT THE END OF THE YEAR AS SERIES XM PREPARES TO SHELVE HIS$100 MILLION A YEAR CONTRACT. HERE WITH HER REACTION TO THAT AMERICA'S PRINCE HARRY SCANDAL IS MAUREEN CALLEN HOST OF THE NERVE ON YOUTUBE OR PODCAST PLATFORMS. MAUREEN GREAT TO HAVE YOU BACK ON ONSENSIVE. WONDERFUL TO BE BACK WITH YOU HE IS A FAN OF HOWARD STERN. I'M A MASSIVE FAN OF HOWARD STERN. I'M A MASSIVE FAN OF HOWARD I WAS SURPRISED TO READ THIS STORY. I KNOW YOU'RE NOT SUCH A BIG FAN. YOU THINK HE'S GONE A BIT SOFT. YES. AND YOU KNOW, I WAS A FAN. I WAS A LONG TIME LISTENER.

40:53LIKE SO MANY, I COMMUTED TO SCHOOL LISTENING TO HOWARD. HE WOULD GET ME THROUGH THOSE LONG HOURS ON THE TRAIN OR ON Over the years, I'm going to say right before COVID, he really began to fade a bit for me. And the key change was he went from being the anti-establishment guy, the voice of the working man, the voice of the so-called little people, and he went full Hollywood. He decided he enjoyed hanging out with Jimmy Kimmel and Jennifer Aniston. And suddenly the teeth really just were pulled right out of that show. He would rely on his staff to be the punching bags, and he would ritually humiliate them, but you could never say anything against Howard.

41:40The second part that went to the end of the show was they stopped doing Robin's news segments, which I think was probably the most popular part of the show. It was daily. At the end of every show, Robin would go through the big headlines, and Howard would riff extemporaneously. And the thrill of those segments was you never knew what he was going to say. And then thirdly, COVID happened. And he went into the basement of his East Hampton mansion and he became paranoid and fearful. And that, I think, was the final, final nail in Howard's coffin.

42:16Piers Morgan:You know, it's interesting. I would add a sort of fourth component. I think there's some merit to what you've said there. But the fourth component is there's been a massive exponential rise in podcasts, right? And YouTubers, I mean, you and I are doing YouTube shows. And a lot of us are doing it in a very uncensored, unfiltered manner, which was kind of Howard's almost exclusive domain. You know, he was the guy that was saying all the things that everyone wanted to say, but no one could say on mainstream media, in mainstream newspapers, on mainstream television and so on. He was like the antidote to that.

42:49Piers Morgan:But now there's a whole plethora of people from Joe Rogan to Ben Shapiro to you, to me, to Megyn Kelly, whoever it may be, Mehdi Hassan on the left. When there's so many people out there who appear to be speaking in a very unfiltered, uncensored manner, inevitably, you could argue, it's going to dilute the appeal of the person who was the only one doing that for a long time. Oh, I take your point completely. I just think that Howard neutered himself long before the podcast explosion. You know, I think all of these voices that you've just cited, you know, myself included, we've sort of come in and filled that hole.

43:28There is a massive, massive desire out there among listeners to hear people speak to them honestly, plainly, forthrightly, with humor, you know, with a little bit of edge. And Howard, long ago, you know, began deciding that the company of the Paul McCartneys of the world, the Madonnas of the world, was more important than what he used to do, which was push against institutions and things and people that seemed untouchable. IT'S NOT A GOOD THING. IT'S ACTUALLY WHAT MADE HIM SUCH AN APPEALING TALENT TO SERIOUS RADIO WHEN THEY WERE LAUNCHING AND TRYING TO GO UP AGAINST TERRESTRIAL RADIO AND HE WAS GETTING MEGA, MEGA PAYDAYS.

44:11NOW HE'S MAKING A REPORTED 80 TO 100 MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR, BUT PEOPLE HAVE STOPPED TUNING IN. AGAIN, MAGA, TRUMP, RADICALIZED HIM AS WELL AND HE'S LOST WELL

44:29Piers Morgan:DISTRICTED THE CLASSICS OF OVERREACH AT THE CHARITY CENTABALE BUT CRITICIZED HIM AND OTHERS FOR LETTING A DAMAGING BORDER AND BATTLE PLAY OUT IN THE PUBLIC EYE. HE IS APPARENTLY DISTANCING HIMSELF FROM THIS CHARITY ALTOGETHER BUT THE CENTABALE PRESS RELEASE PROVIDES THE COMMISSION HAS NOT IDENTIFIED WIDESPREAD BULLYING WITHIN THE CHARITY BUT THE COMMISSION HAS ACKNOWLEDGED THE STRONG PERCEPTION OF ILL TREATMENT FELT BY A NUMBER OF PARTIES TO DISPUTE AND THE IMPACT THIS MAY HAVE HAD ON THEM PERSONALLY. THERE IS A REALLY AMUSING IRONY HERE, ISN'T THERE, THAT MR. ANTI-BULLYING HAS BEEN ON THE BOARD OF A CHARITY WHERE THERE APPEARS TO HAVE BEEN AN AWFUL LOT OF BEHAVIOR THAT MANY WOULD CATEGORIZE AS BULLYING?

45:16OH, IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST SO BRAND SUSSEX, ISN'T IT? YOU KNOW, AND THE REALLY INCREDIBLE PART OF THIS IS HE CANNOT PUSH BACK BECAUSE THE FACE OF THESE CHARGES IS A VERY EXEMPLARY, WELL-ESTABLISHED, RESPECTED BLACK WOMAN WHO TOOK HER CASE NOT TO US WEEKLY OR TMZ BUT THE FINANCIAL TIMES. AND SO HARRY HAS BEEN FORCED TO step down in yet another week full of losses and he does so not with class or culpability but with grievance and a chip on his shoulder playing the victim.

45:55Piers Morgan:What's going to happen to these two? I've got to say I don't I can't really summons the energy much anymore to even talk about that. If they're in the news I might do what we've just done but I don't feel that energy because I kind of feel like their relevance is receding on an almost hourly basis? I kind of can't wait to see what they're going to do next. I mean, the Netflix acts falling this week was incredible. And then to see Meghan Markle try to do some house cleaning and say, oh, no, no, no, no, no, we're working on a first look deal, whatever those parameters may be. And I'm also interested in, you know, part two of With Love, Meghan is dropping any week now.

46:37And there's been no drumbeat. There's no publicity leading up to this. I wonder why.

46:43Piers Morgan:Well, I think they were contracted to do the second season, but absolutely nobody cared about the first one. I mean, I do think when you're reduced to making jam in your kitchen and then you claim that you've sold out in seconds when you probably only had about three pots, which is the oldest marketing trick in the book, you do feel, well, where do they go from here? Because the only currency, it turns out, that anyone was really interested in was not their jam making or their charity work or any of those things. It was them dumping on the royal family. But because the royal family has now ostracized them, they haven't got any new material.

47:17Piers Morgan:They can't go around the royals soaking up damaging information they can then spray them with to the wider world. So their oxygen of that currency is gone. Exactly. And that's why that leaked royal summit of just a couple of weeks ago is so consequential. Does King Charles open the door just a little bit to Prince Harry? Or does he take a look at what's happening and see that perhaps this timeline is a little too uncomfortable to do so right now? Yeah, you know, the king is facing a lot of serious health issues, as everybody knows. He's probably got far more important things to worry about than this renegade son of his.

48:01Piers Morgan:What I do know is that, you know, if down the line, whenever that time comes when William becomes king, I think you'll see a massive escalation in the ostracization of Meghan and Harry. I think he will be very vengeful for what he perceives as the ultimate treachery of branding the royal family a bunch of callous racists and for doing it as both Philip and the Queen were dying. I think William feels utterly enraged about it to this day. and I could see him stripping them of their titles. Absolutely. And, you know, somehow Omid Scobie, and I believe the Dutch edition of his latest book, Catherine, Princess of Wales, was named one of the so-called royal racists.

48:48And when William is sort of... And Charles. I see two sides to this story. I see King Charles wanting to make his peace WITH HIS WAYWARD SON WHILE HE CAN. I CAN ALSO SEE WILLIAM HAVING ABSOLUTELY EVERY REASON NOT TO TRUST HARRY NOR HIS WIFE ONE SINGLE IOTA. I ACTUALLY I THINK IF WILLIAM WERE TO OSTRICIZE THEM AND STRIP THEM OF THEIR TITLES, WE HERE IN AMERICA WOULD CHEER. YEAH.

49:19Piers Morgan:I THINK THAT'S COMPLETELY TRUE. AND I THINK IT WILL HAPPEN. I WANT TO END FINALLY WITH A VIDEO THAT'S GONE VIRAL OF A MAN eating a banana in a way that many viewers outrageous.

49:45Piers Morgan:I don't know about you, Maureen, but eating, using a spoon to eat a banana from the skin seems to me crossing every gastronomic line that should be deemed acceptable. I agree with you, Piers. And here in America, you know, anyone running for high office has to pass one test. And that is, can you go have a slice of pizza with a regular Joe and eat it the way regular people do, which is as a finger food? And one too many use a fork and a knife. And it has legs for days when they do that. No, you cannot use a spoon to eat a banana and ever hold high office. The good news is I don't think that guy probably has many aspirations to high office.

50:30Piers Morgan:But that was great fun. Maureen, lovely to have you back on Uncensored. Thank you very much. Piers Morgan Uncensored is proudly independent. The only boss around here is me. If you enjoy our show, we ask for only one simple thing. Hit subscribe on YouTube and follow Piers Morgan Uncensored on Spotify and Apple Podcasts. and in return, we will continue our mission to inform, irritate and entertain. And we'll do it all for free. Independent, uncensored media has never been more critical, and we couldn't do it without you.

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