“ENOUGH of This CARNAGE!” Israel vs United Nations on Gaza ‘Mass Starvation’

24:31He predicted the show. He predicted the interview of you softballing Tom and now asking me difficult questions because he knew. He knew one thing. He knew he could count on the UN as his queen, no matter what Israel does. Israel moves the Gaza population out of the way. And here Tom Fletcher says 88 % of all people have been displaced. They weren't displaced. They were moved by Israel at cost to Israeli soldiers' lives out of the way of a war zone because we want to keep them safe. He knew he could count on the UN because Tom Fletcher and his buddies, before October 7th, for the eight years before October 7th, passed 154 condemnations in the General Assembly against Israel.

25:10Against all other countries combined, they passed 70. So Israel's apparently worse than Rwanda, than what happened in Cambodia, than Russia's invasion of Ukraine. They were the worst on earth. Otherwise, perhaps they're simply anti-Israel. So you'll forgive me and the Israeli people if we are slightly have a little bit of scrutiny against Tom and the United Nations, and we can show that the aid is on the border. And if they would bring it to the people, instead of politically engaging, we could help solve some of the hunger, the desperate hunger that is taking place in Gaza. I don't think actually that the Israeli government cares about the plight of Gazans at all.

25:48The reality is, so far, about 70 % of Gaza has been completely destroyed. The remaining population have been herded around, now into ever smaller pockets of what is remaining there. you've got people like Smodrich, hard right members of the government, openly talking now about cleansing Gaza of Palestinians, which would be ethnic cleansing. He wants to kick them all out of the country. Then I hear Israelis say, well, he doesn't speak for the government.

26:15Piers Morgan:He's the bloody finance minister. Of course he does. And so you've got people like this saying, well, yeah, we're going to cleanse the Gaza of all Palestinians. And then I get people on like yourself and you PEOPLE AND YOU HAVE TO KILL THE PEOPLE AND YOU SAY THAT'S NOT THE PLAN. WE JUST WANT TO HELP THE GASAN PEOPLE AND THE LAST THING WE WANT TO KILL PEOPLE AND SO ON. SOMEHOW YOU HAVE MANAGED TO KILL OVER 60 ,000 PALESTINIANS HAVING LOST 1200 ON OCTOBER 7TH, A HORRENDOUS TERROR ATTACK WHICH YOU HAVE KILLED 60 ,000 PLUS PALESTINIANS, YOU HAVE GOT 20 ,000 CHILDREN WHO HAVE BEEN KILLED, YOU HAVE GOT STARVING AND EMACIATED CHILDREN, IMAGES BEING BEAMED TO THE WORLD ON AN HOURLY BASIS, MANY OF WHOM ARE NOW BEGINNING TO DIE LITERALLY OF HUNGER.

27:04Piers Morgan:AND THIS IS STARTED BY A THREE-MONTH BLOCKADE, DELIBERATE POLICY OF A BLOCKADE STARVING the innocent Gazans of food and water and aid and other things. And you put it all together and you now have almost the entire world looking at Israel saying, what on earth are you doing? When are you going to stop this? And yet still, still, and I say this with respect to you, still people like you will come on, Major Spielman, and you'll say there's nothing to see here. There's nothing that can be reported because you won't allow media to go and investigate get this independently. Nothing to see here. We are doing everything by the book with the most moral army in the world.

27:43Piers Morgan:And actually anyone like the United Nations, who I thought spoke very eloquently and very straightforwardly about the problem and made it clear he doesn't want to be remotely partisan here. But when I couple what he said with what British doctors are talking about in the few remaining hospitals, where they're talking about children being used as target practice. Now, I would love to see a proper investigation into that, because that was said on British national television, that children were coming in with patterns of clusters of sniper fire, as if they'd been used as target practice. So, yeah, you can come here and you can attack the United Nations.

28:20Piers Morgan:You can say they're the villains. You can blame Hamas for everything. But my final point to you, Major Spielman, about your big lengthy diatribe there, about me, about the United Nations and everything else, is you quote Simwa and talk about this is what he wanted, actually what he wanted when he did what he did on October the 7th, is lure Israel into a response that was so wholly disproportionate it would alienate Israel from the rest of the world. And that is what's happening. And that's what you don't see is happening because you are so convinced of your moral right here that you do not see the wood for the trees.

28:59Piers Morgan:And I say that AS SOMEBODY WHO SUPPORTED ISRAEL FOR MANY MONTHS. AS YOU KNOW, TO MY PERSONAL COST, I WAS ATTACKED VIRULENTLY FROM THE OTHER SIDE. BUT THERE COMES A POINT WHEN ISRAEL'S FRIENDS, THOSE WHO 'VE ALWAYS SUPPORTED ISRAEL, HAVE TO STAND UP AND SAY ENOUGH OF THIS. ENOUGH OF THIS CARNAGE. IT IS GETTING YOU NOWHERE. YOU'RE NOT DISMANTLING HAMAS. YOU'RE NOT GETTING HOSTAGES FREED. YOU 'VE GOT STARVING KIDS NOW DYING ON A DAILY BASIS. ENOUGH. SO THAT'S MY RESPONSE TO YOU. Pierce, I hear one lack of a word that comes out of your mouth. This is an entire statement, and I can agree with you that there's hunger in Gaza, which is Hamas.

29:38You throw out the word senwar. You blame Israeli opinion on Smotrich. I have news for you. The Israeli people are not defined by Smotrich, and the Israeli people do not all want to raise the white flag and go home. This is a consistent theme where Smotrich wants to cleanse Gaza, and every Israeli just wants to fold the white flag. No, there's another alternative, which is I'm not willing to go to sleep, and neither would you, Pierce. With Hamas remaining in Gaza, and you are correct, Sinwar planned this. His queen, his vet was the international media and the United Nations. He knew Israel will move the population.

30:14They'll be blamed for displacement. Israel will try to feed the population, and when Hamas steals the food, Israel will be blamed for the food. He predicted every single thing that's happening. Israel could have ended this conflict by bombing this from the sky. We did not need to drop telegrams to everybody there. We didn't need to move the population. We lost four soldiers today. They never had to die. They didn't need to go into a tank. We could have taken care of everything from the air. The only reason we did not, and we know where hostages are, there's plenty of other areas where Hamas is hiding, is because we are trying in the most difficult situation, a situation that no one has ever fought in, to kill Hamas that has planned in advance to hide behind their own people, knowing they don't care about those lives, knowing that when they die, I will go on Pierce Morgan.

31:00Pierce Morgan will say Israel doesn't have a chance. You can't defeat Hamas. They've recruited five times of the people. These are not true. Hamas is on its last legs. Its leadership has been completely destroyed. Israel, as you said, have taken over 77 percent of the territory and moved their civilian population, which is remarkable, to an area that's not perfect, but it's mostly out of the way of the fighting, and you have humanitarian aid that Hamas steals from trucks, and when Israel tries to fix the situation, all of a sudden the UN says, no, we're willing to go in, we're willing to work, but it's so disorganized.

31:31Where the hell were you for 21 months when Hamas stole the trucks? There's no proof, by the way. That report that USA took out is a complete farce. It is based on what they said they cannot verify the recipients of the meaning the aid is going to people and they cannot verify who they are. So if those people are Hamas, they can't verify it. The 60 ,000 people that you say that have been killed, that you both, we both know that doesn't differentiate between combatants and civilians. Pierce, this is the exact same discussion again and again. And once again, everything negative about Israel, we're the only democracy in this Israel, we're fighting for our lives against an ENEMY.

32:10TWO MILES AWAY AND ALL YOU CAN DO IS BRING TOM FLETCHER, TALK ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT ISRAEL IS DOING. NOW YOU SUPPORTED ISRAEL FOR YEARS. BUT WHEN THE GOING IS GETTING TOUGH, YOU WILL LOOK BACK IN 20 YEARS WHEN THE SMOKE CLEARS AND YOU WILL SEE THAT YOU TURNED. UNFORTUNATELY, YOU MISUNDERSTAND ISRAEL TODAY. YOU MISUNDERSTAND THE WILL OF OUR PEOPLE AND YOU WOULD NEVER LEAVE YOUR OWN FAMILY ON THE BORDER WITH HAMAS ON THE OTHER SIDE. THAT IS THE BOTTOM LINE. ACTUALLY, I 'LL TELL YOU WHAT I THINK I WILL WAKE UP TO IN 20 YEARS' TIME, THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING, IF NO ONE STOPS NETANYAHU AND HIS FAR-RIGHT GOVERNMENT, IS WE ARE GOING TO SEE PALESTINIANS HAVE BEEN REMOVED FROM GAZA COMPLETELY.

32:49WE WILL SEE THAT THERE HAS BEEN AN ETHNIC CLEANSING THAT HAPPENED AS THE WORLD STOOD BY AND WATCHED. AND THE REASON I BELIEVE THAT NOW IS BECAUSE I'M LISTENING TO PEOPLE LIKE SMODRICH WHO IS ONE YOU ARE ONE OF THE MOST SENIOR MEMBERS OF THAT GOVERNMENT AND CANNOT BE AS READILY DISMISSED AS SO MANY LIKE TO ON THE PRO-ISRAELI SIDE. AND YOU ARE ALSO SEEING WHAT IS HAPPENING ON THE GROUND WHERE AS YOU SAY, 77 % OF TERRITORY

33:13Piers Morgan:HAS NOW BEEN DESTROYED. I MEAN, LITERALLY OBLITERATED. AND THIS IS WHY ISRAEL DOESN'T WANT TO ALLOW JOURNALISTS IN TO SEE THE SHEER SCALE OF WHAT HAS HAPPENED BECAUSE THEN IT WOULD BE APPARENT TO THE WORLD WHAT HAS ACTUALLY GONE ON HERE. And there's only one reason why government like Israel in this kind of situation doesn't want journalists on the ground operating independently because they know they're doing stuff they don't want the world to see. Because when it suits Israel, when they wanted to take the world's media to see some food trucks the other day, oh, no problem. In you come. When after October the 7th, they wanted the world to see the horrors of the kibbutz, quite rightly.

33:50Piers Morgan:No problem. In you come. IT'S A GREAT THING. IT'S A GREAT THING. IT'S A GREAT THING. BUT WHEN IT COMES TO JOURNALISTS EVERY SINGLE DAY, PEOPLE I KNOW, GREAT, BRAVE WAR CORRESPONDENTS, CNN, BBC, REUTERS AND OTHERS, WHEN THEY MAKE ALL THEIR APPLICATIONS TO BE ALLOWED TO DO THEIR JOB IN GAZA, NO, NO, NO, NO. ONE OR TWO FRIENDLY PEOPLE WHO ARE VERY PRO-IDF ARE ALLOWED TO GO IN FOR A FEW HOURS OF THE

34:22IN THE WORLD, THEY WANT TO WANT TO PUT INTO THE WORLD AND INDEPENDENT JOURNALISTS TO DO THEIR JOBS BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT THE WORLD TO KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING. THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED IN 20 YEARS TIME. I BELIEVE, I HATE THE FACT THIS IS ALMOST CERTAINLY WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN, THERE WILL HAVE BEEN ETHNIC CLEANSING OF THE GASANS. THEY WILL NO LONGER, IF THIS

34:39Piers Morgan:CARRIES ON, BE IN GASA. THERE WILL BE WIDESPRED EVIDENCE OF WAR CRIMES, INCLUDING HOW DID 20 ,000 CHILDREN DIE? IS IT TRUE THAT CHILDREN WERE BEING USED AS TARGET PRACTICE BY THE IDF? AS A BRITISH DOCTOR SAID ON BRITISH NATIONAL TELEVISION THREE DAYS AGO. LITERALLY USED FOR TARGET PRACTICE. NOW, I'M SURE IF WE ASKED THE IDF ABOUT THAT, THEY 'LL SAY WE'RE LAUNCHING AN INVESTIGATION. WE'RE LAUNCHING AN INQUIRY. ACTUALLY, THIS DOCTOR SOUNDS LIKE HE'S PRO-HAMAS. ACTUALLY, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. THE SAME THING THAT IS SAID EVERY TIME. because journalists aren't allowed in to verify either way.

35:18And when you block the journalists, you block the truth. You know, Pierce, you're talking about the Gazan population and ethnic cleansing. Do you think that if Gazan wants to leave Gaza and go to, I don't know, London or Brooklyn, should they be allowed to?

35:32Piers Morgan:I think Gazan should be allowed to stay in Gaza, don't you? Okay. Hi, Ryan Reynolds here for Mint Mobile. Are you looking for a beach read this summer? May I suggest your big wireless bill? It's got suspense, mystery, a slightly flat emotional arc, and a shocking twist where you realize you've been overpaying the entire time. Fortunately, though, Mint's story is better. Every plan,$15 a month, even unlimited. That's it. Happy ending. Zero tears. Give it a try at mintmobile.com slash switch. Upfront payment of$45 for three months,$90 for six months, or$180 for 12-month plan required. $15 per month equivalent.

36:03Taxes and fees extra. Initial plan term only greater than 50 gigabytes may slow when network is busy. See terms. Both think Gazan should be able to stay in Gazan. But if they want to leave the war, and you're not answering my question, they want to go to England. They want to go to... Should they be allowed or should they be forced to stay in Gaza? So you're saying that Gazans right now can get on a plane to England, right? I'm saying that if England... If you believe that they have the right peers to make a decision about their future, then all the countries around the world who care about these people, care about this starvation, should open their doors and we should leave it up to the Gazan people.

36:35No one's left... No one is forced to leave Gaza. IF YOU GO TO THE BOARD AND YOU SAY, I ASK, JUST LIKE IF YOU DECIDE TO GO TO FRANCE, TOMORROW I'M GOING ON A TRIP, I WOULD LIKE TO RELOCATE MY FAMILY. SHOULD THEY BE ALLOWED TO RELOCATE? OF COURSE THEY SHOULD.

36:48Piers Morgan:THEY SHOULD BE ALLOWED THE EXACT SAME HUMAN RIGHTS AS YOU OR ME. DO YOU AGREE THAT GARZEN SHOULD BE ENTITLED TO THE SAME HUMAN RIGHTS AS YOU? I DO. UNFORTUNATELY, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THEY ARE IN THE LINE OF FIRE. BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT IF THEY YOU WANT TO LEAVE. WHAT ABOUT BEFORE OCTOBER 7th? HANG ON. BEFORE OCTOBER 7th, DID PALESTINIANS HAVE THE SAME HUMAN RIGHTS AS ISRAELIS? THEY LIVE IN THEIR OWN AREA. THE REASON THEY VOTED IN THEIR OWN LEADERSHIP WHICH WAS HAMAS. MEANING THE GERMANS VOTED IN HITLER. I KNOW YOU DON'T LIKE THESE COMPARISONS. THEY VOTED IN HITLER. HITLER TOOK CONTROL. HE ELIMINATED THEIR RIGHTS.

37:30He eliminated many of them. He eliminated homosexuals and Jews and people with physical handicaps and the Romas. Just like that, the Gazan people had free and open elections. Unfortunately, and we don't like to talk about the elephant in the room, they voted overwhelmingly in 2007 for Hamas and they condemned their children. Meaning, what was Hamas, what was, what were they thinking Hamas was doing all these years? when Hamas were digging tunnels, not underneath their homes, I've been there, into their homes, into their children's bedrooms. You've seen the pictures. When they indoctrinated their children and brought them into schools and taught them hatred of England, of the West, of Israel.

38:10What did these parents think that Hamas was actually doing? They knew the day would come that they voted in Hamas and they would get what Hamas believes, which is a Muslim brotherhood THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO STATE, THEY WILL GET A STATE AND THEY WILL GET A STATE, THE DESTRUCTION OF ISRAEL, FIGHT TO THE END, ISRAEL WILL RESPOND, THEY WILL BE TRAVESTY, I WILL GO ON PEACE, HE WILL DEFEND THEM AND HOPEFULLY BECAUSE OF THE TRAVESTY OF THIS POPULATION, THEY WILL GET A STATE, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT FRANCE IS PROPOSING TO DO, WHICH SIMPLY EMBOLDENS THIS TYPE OF TERROR AROUND THE WORLD. I DON'T AGREE BECAUSE I THINK THAT PALESTINE SHOULD BE A STATE.

38:44I BELIEVE IN A TWO-STATE SOLUTION. I DON'T THINK BENJAMIN NETANYAHU HAS EVER WANTED THAT. AND YOU TALK ABOUT WHO IS TO BLAME FOR THE RISE OF HAMAS. WELL, LOOK NO FURTHER THAN THE PRIME MINISTER OF ISRAEL, WHO

38:55Piers Morgan:WAS PERSONALLY VERY INSTRUMENTAL IN FUNNELING BILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO HAMAS BECAUSE HE WANTED TO HAVE A RULE, A DIVIDER RULE BETWEEN HAMAS AND THE PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY. YOU KNOW, SO THERE'S BEEN LOTS OF BLAME. I agree with you there. So we can agree on that. Anything that was done to keep Hamas in power was a horrific mistake. We released Gilad Shalik. We released, when they released Gilad Shalik, we released 1 ,300 killers, one of which was Yahya Simar. It was a horrible mistake. Giving the money to Hamas in retrospect was a horrific mistake. Can you and I both agree that Hamas being in power in Gaza is absolutely intolerable?

39:34100%. I WOULD ALSO GO FURTHER AND SAY I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH YOU COMPARING HAMAS TO THE NAZIS. I THINK THEY HAVE A VERY SIMILAR IDEOLOGY, PARTICULARLY TOWARDS JEWISH PEOPLE. THEY CLAIM, YOU KNOW, I 'VE HEARD PEOPLE ON THE PALESTINIAN SIDE SAY THERE'S NO RELIGIOUS

39:50Piers Morgan:ELEMENT TO THIS OR ETHNIC ELEMENT TO IT. IT'S SIMPLY THAT THEY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE ISRAELI OCCUPATION. THAT'S SIMPLY NOT TRUE. THE ORIGINAL HAMAS CHARTER WAS IS WORDED TO KILLING JEWS. THEY 'VE NEVER MADE ANY SECRET ABOUT THIS. SO I 'VE GOT NO PROBLEM WITH THE ANALOGY OF A DESPICABLE TERROR ORGANIZATION TO THE NAZIS. I THINK THEY DO REPRESENT AN EXISTENTIAL THREAT. THE QUESTION BECOMES FOR ISRAEL AS THE ONLY DEMOCRACY IN THE MIDDLE EAST, DOES IT WANT TO DESCEND TO THE SAME LEVELS OF INHUMANE DEPRAVITY AS THE PEOPLE IS TRYING TO ELIMINATE? And I would argue, as somebody who considers myself to be a friend of Israel and Israelis, no, you shouldn't.

40:29Piers Morgan:You should not be in a position now where you are starving children to death. That is simply not what you should do in response to a terror group who does exactly that to its people. You should be better than Hamas. You should be more humane than Hamas. You should show the world that Israel is a better, more humane country than a Hamas-run Gaza Strip for the Palestinians. But at the moment, you're not. You're sending the world the opposite message. And so friends like me and allies like France and the U.K. and others, even Donald Trump today, directly contradicting Netanyahu. He said there's no starvation.

41:08Piers Morgan:He said, well, the children look pretty hungry to me. They look pretty hungry to all of us. So you can say that black is white and white is black and everything else till the cows come home. We all know what we're seeing with our own eyes. And we're seeing starving people and we're seeing starving people getting shot dead. And I just simply say to you, as somebody, given we both care about the security of Israel and the security of Israeli people, why do you think that any of this possibly makes ISRAEL IS A POSSIBLE FOR IS A POSSIBLE FOR ISRAEL IS MORE SECURE TO BE AN ISRAELY OR TO BE A JEW AROUND THE WORLD.

41:43Piers Morgan:WHY DOES MAKING ISRAEL DESPISED AROUND THE WORLD MAKE IT A SAFER PLACE THE WORLD FOR ISRAELIS OR JEWS? EXPLAIN TO ME. ISRAEL AS WE BOTH AGREED CANNOT LEAVE HAMAS IN POWER. WHEN YOU COMPARE ISRAEL TO Hamas and talk about the degeneration, the potential degeneration, in a word, this is always a very real fear, that you don't want to become like your enemies, which is exactly what Israel is not. They're, again, I feel like we're talking about the facts, but when we boil it down, you're ignoring it. What other population is responsible providing the food to the enemy civilian population because the enemy steals the food from its own population?

42:23What other population, what other army moves people out of the way, putting their soldiers at risk so that we won't kill them. What other population sends in ground troops? For us, 800 ground troops that have been killed is 30 ,000 soldiers in the United States. Why are they killed? Because we're going in on the ground and fleshing them out and not just bombing them from the air like Britain did, and justifiably during World War II when they bombed. Why are we doing all this? Because we are fundamentally different. And if you do not understand it, we are not sending this message to the world. Pierce, you are sending this message to the world.

43:00You say that you appreciate Israel, but by quoting all these things, Gazan's our target practice, not verified. Israel's not allowing the UN, not verified. There's stuff sitting on the border. Israel's saying, come on and take it. All of these allegations, U.S. AIDS report is based on people that they say they cannot collect testimony from. You are sending this message to the world. We have one job. It is to kill Hamas and try to do so in the most moral way possible. If the world does not understand that, and if the world is going to attack Jews because of it, that is the world's problem. Israel has suffered before.

43:36Our people have suffered before. There's no excuse for people to show anti-Semitism and attack our people, not because we're carrying out a war, not because they disagree with anything. The reason that this is right now, all the international pieces, the United Nations and OSHA, passing 154 condemnations against Israel and 70 against the rest of the world? Does that not cite you as being a little bit biased? Somebody who likes Israel. 154 UN resolutions passed by Tom Fletcher's bosses and 70 against the rest of the world, including North Korea and Russia and China. Does that add up for you as being fair and just?

44:16Well, what bothers me is not playing what a battery with other countries. You can talk about that and you can argue a bit about all countries doing awful things. Again, what bothers me is that it doesn't seem to me the penny is dropping fast enough for people who are supportive of Israel that what is going on now is making Israel a global pariah. That is just a fact. It's not me saying it or spinning it or trying to conjure some kind of media narrative that isn't the reality.

44:45Piers Morgan:the world is turning against Israel in a very fast and profound manner from which it may never recover if it's not careful. And for what? You're not getting the hostages released. No hostages released alive since February. You haven't finished off Hamas, clearly, or you wouldn't still be doing this. You know, children are starving to death. Thousands of civilians have BEEN KILLED. I MEAN, OKAY, LET'S SAY YOU 'VE KILLED 60 ,000 OF WHICH A THIRD ARE COMBATTERS. WHO KNOWS? SAY A THIRD OF THE HAMAS TERRORISTS. THAT'S 40 ,000 CIVILIANS OF WHICH HALF ARE CHILDREN IN A POPULATION OF 2 MILLION WITH HALF OF CHILDREN.

45:27NONE OF THIS STRIKES ANYBODY NOW AS PROPORTIONATE AT ALL. IT JUST LOOKS SHOCKINGLY DISPROPORTIONATE AND IT LOOKS

45:35Piers Morgan:LIKE NOBODY IN ISRAEL IN THE GOVERNMENT CARES. Here she said something that I absolutely agree with the penny has not dropped the penny has not dropped around the world about what is is facing and I'll tell you simply why it hasn't reached their doorstep. No one knows it better than you and your country. Because from 1939 to 1941 you alone fought the Nazis. All right. Why? It wasn't a world war. It was the European war. When did it become a world war? When it reached the doorstep of the United States of Pearl Harbor, all of a sudden they really felt what it is to face Nazi Germany. Israel has been fighting this war alone.

46:08It's only our troops. It's only our children. It's only our intelligence branches. It's only our people trying to move the Gazan people out of the way. It's only our people that are fighting this war, when will the penny drop? And I hope it doesn't drop too late. When countries around the world wake up and they understand the radicalism and the cynicism that we're facing, they may understand that Hamas is brutal. But I don't think that they understand that Hamas is more brutal, and these aren't just words, to their own people. What does that mean? Yes, they will kill Israelis, they'll butcher them, they'll chop heads off, they'll do all these types of things, they willingly plan to have their own people annihilated to gain political advantage.

46:49It is something the world does not seem to understand. And the penny may drop, Pierce, only when it reaches their doorstep. And I have news, as you know, Hamas right now is appealing to the United Kingdom government to take them off the terror watch list. I would keep my children inside if I live in England, if that happens, if Hamas is off the TERROR WATCH LIST AND THEY'RE ABLE TO OPERATE FREELY IN ENGLAND, THIS MAY ONLY DROP IN FIVE YEARS OR TEN YEARS OR 20 YEARS. AND WHEN THE PENNY DROPS, THEY WILL LOOK BACK AT ISRAEL AND SAY, WOW, WE UNDERSTAND WHY ISRAEL DID WHAT IT DID. BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO STOP FIGHTING TODAY BECAUSE THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND.

47:24WE'RE NOT GOING TO LEAVE HAMAS ON THEIR BORDER BECAUSE THE WORLD DOES NOT UNDERSTAND PEARCE. I CAN TELL YOU FOR AN ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY THERE IS NO CHANCE OF HAMAS BEING REMOVED FROM THE TERROR WATCH LIST.

47:39I DON'T SAY THAT FOR THE RECORD. A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO ANYMORE. YOU DO. YOU ARTICULATE THE OTHER SIDE AND I APPRECIATE IT. I LOOK AT THE WAY THAT ISRAEL DISMANTLED HEZBOLA. A BRILLIANT, VERY PRECISE, SURGICAL, SUPERBLY EXECUTED OPERATION FROM A MILITARY PERSPECTIVE. I LOOK AT THE WAY YOU WENT

48:06Piers Morgan:AND I LOOK AT TWO, AGAIN, ANOTHER SUPERB MILITARY OPERATION AND THEN I LOOK AT WHAT'S HAPPENED IN GAZA. NO PRECISION, NO SURGICAL OPERATION, NOTHING. NOTHING BY ANY COMPARISON TO WHAT HAPPENED IN IRAN OR WITH HEZBALLAH. AND INSTEAD JUST UTTER INDISCRIMINATE CARNAGE. AND THAT IS THE TRAGEDY FOR WHAT IS THE WORLD FOR ISRAEL? I THINK THAT THE RAGE THE NATION FELT PERFECTLY UNDERSTANDABLY AFTER OCTOBER 7TH WHEN YOU HAD BY THE NEXT DAY THE SUPPORT OF MOST OF THE WORLD, NOT ALL, BECAUSE IT BROUGHT OUT A LOT OF HATEFUL ANTISEMITISM, BUT MOST OF THE WORLD WAS SUPPORTING ISRAEL. BUT THAT SUPPORT IS PRETTY WELL ERODED NOW.

48:48Piers Morgan:AND NOW YOU 'VE GOT THE WORLD GOING, WHAT IS ISRAEL DOING? WHY IS IT BEHAVING LIKE A MASK? and that's a terrible place for Israel to have found itself. But look, I appreciate you coming on and I just hope and pray that this war is brought to an end before Israel causes itself even more self-harm, which ultimately I am convinced was the whole intention of Sinwar and the evil Hamas terror leaders. Unfortunately, I think that you have fallen into their trap and it's been a tragedy to watch, but we will see. Maybe you'll be right, but I fear you'll be proven wrong and I fear even more that I will be proven right.

49:26There will be an ethnic cleansing of Palestinians and I don't think that Israel will really recover from it in my lifetime, but we'll see. Major Spielman, thank you very much. I appreciate it.

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