“He Perpetrated a LIE” Stephen Colbert CANCELLED + Hunter Biden TRASHES Democrats

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0:30Piers Morgan:His talent was even less than his ratings. Colbert could not hide his constant rage that Donald Trump was president. He perpetrated a life. He told American people that Biden was fit, and he has yet to apologize for that. F*** him. F*** him and everybody around him. You know, I did watch that and think, he's got a point. You can't just rewrite history to fit whatever convenient narrative. That's what you do, Lindy. That's what you're known for, rewriting history. There's now a genuine bona fide superstar in the game. And I don't care about her skin color. She's fantastic. Can we put this into perspective?

1:10Because the WNBA is making$200 million a year versus$10 billion for the FBA. So when they wear t-shirts that say, pay us what you owe us, it actually means you should give us a pay cut.

1:24Piers Morgan:Stephen Colbert says the gloves are off for the remaining run of The Late Show after CBS cancelled it last week. Trump's critics say it's down to political pressure. Colbert's critics say it's down to the show's $40 million annual losses. Elsewhere in talk show land, the Queen of Kindness, Ellen DeGeneres, who was cancelled for being very unkind, now says she's permanently moving to the UK to avoid the president. And a certain handsy duo, a Saturday's Coldplay gig, might be tempted to follow her. Their extramarital trist now seen by tens of millions of people has sparked a lively debate about the morality of the concert Jumbotron.

1:58Piers Morgan:What drew me to debate all this? Former DNC fundraiser Lindy Lee, host of the Bad Faith podcast, Rhiannon Joy Gray, former Kamala Harris senior advisor and organiser of White Dudes for Harris, Mike Nellis, and Mickey's Uncensored debut host of Brad vs Everyone, Brad Palumbo. So welcome to all of you. OK, let's talk first of all about Stephen Colbert. Brad, you kick us off. I've seen all sorts of distraught liberals crying around about all this, but it seems to me a fairly straightforward decision on multiple levels. One, the show was apparently losing$40 million a year. Two, ratings for all late night, with the exception of Greg Gutfeld at Fox, have basically been tanking now for a couple of decades as people gravitate actually to shows like this.

2:47Piers Morgan:And thirdly, Colbert could not hide his constant rage that Donald Trump was president. And it may have worked for a bit of the first term, but when you start doing it all over again in the second term, and people think, I've got four more years of this again, I don't know why they would ever think that's going to resonate with the public. And I want to play a clip before you answer. This is Jay Leno talking to me about what should happen in a late-night show. Let's watch this. I just stopped doing politics and my act altogether. Because, you know, when I did the Tonight Show, the idea was you made fun of both sides equally.

3:24And you get those, you and your Republican friends. Well, Ms. Leonard, you and your Democratic buddies. And they'd both be angry. And I go, oh, that's good. They both think you're supporting the other guy. Now you've got to take a side and people are angry if you don't. And I find what I would start to tell a political joke, they want to know the punchline before. Is this pro or against? You know, so I just stopped doing it.

3:48Piers Morgan:And he was so smart, I think, Jay Leno. It's a bit like, you know, Johnny Carson. He famously never took political sides. He just, you know, teased and mocked everybody, but in quite a warm way. Now they all see themselves, whether it's Jimmy Kimmel, whether it's Stephen Colbert, you know, all of them. I mean, Jimmy Fallon, not so much, but I just think the other big ones, they can't hide their open disdain for someone who's been re-elected president and has more than half the country you like him. Yeah, look, I think the market has spoken. And when you have a show that's losing$40 million a year get canceled, that's not some act of fascism or creeping censorship or any of the things that I've seen it described by panicked, breathless Democratic politicians and liberal media critics, I mean, even when they were granted anonymity, insiders at CBS, which probably lean liberal, probably don't like Trump, told CNN that this was a financial decision, not a political one.

4:53So the doomsday rhetoric about it is really misplaced. And it's part of a broader boy who cried wolf phenomenon with Trump, who I think has done a fair number of genuinely concerning things. But many in liberal media and many Democratic politicians can't help but dial up the alarmism to attend every time he does almost anything. And in this case, when he didn't do anything at all. So I think they're really discrediting themselves and legitimate criticisms they might have about his positions on free speech or the free press. When you look at him retaliating against the Wall Street Journal recently and other things, stop this constant meltdown mode over everything.

5:29Piers Morgan:Yeah, I mean, Brianna, I just don't get why they think it's a winning proposition to be just screaming constantly about Donald Trump. You know, you can have your problems with Trump. I've been very critical of Trump over the years and I've been supportive when I think he deserves it. But this hysteria, which has permeated into late night, completely changing the mood of late night television in America from one of kind of warm mockery of all political classes to extremely partisan activism in favour of one over the other. You know, just because you think a few liberals may not like it if you say anything positive about Trump or don't hammer him enough.

6:07Piers Morgan:I just I just don't get that at all. Yeah, I like what you said about the host not putting themselves in the position of taking sides. I would modify that a little bit. I think they should sort of take a side. They should take the side of the public, right? They're supposed to be there to skewer both parties, to skewer politicians and elites who are not representing their interests on a fundamental level. And when you get to a place where it becomes not taking the side of the public but being partisan in nature, I think that's part of what you can attribute the dwindling audience of these mainstream cable shows to.

6:42That being said, it is concerning, given the backdrop of all of this, the CBS merger with Skydance and some reporting that there's concerns that a more pro-Trump sort of ownership might be leading the networks to sort of reorganize themselves to basically censor content, the hosts and such of their shows, to anticipate making the politics of running these corporations a little bit easier in the Trump era. And one thing that's a little bit difficult to suss out what's going on here is that because across the board, these cable shows are doing so poorly that it's very easy to attribute cancellation to them not making money.

7:26Like, that is obviously true. It was true of Joyann Reid as well. I know you recently had an interview with her. I've been very critical of Joyann Reid over the years. And you can plausibly say her show wasn't making money. It wasn't doing well. But it is also true that her show hadn't been making money for a while, and maybe it was her escalation in being critical of Israel that was the but-for factor. I honestly don't... I saw you said that.

7:49Piers Morgan:I don't think it was that. I mean, look, Joy Reid accused me after that. I'd never even met Joy Reid. I don't think he gets to her. It's fine. She's had a whack at me a few times. I've whacked her a few times. She came on, and she accused me of a race-baiting ambush, and she pulled up an email from my booker with the invitation, promising a free-flowing conversation covering several topics in her wheelhouse, including the Trump administration, Elon Musk establishing a new political party, ICE raids and news of the day, as well as Reid's departure from MSNBC and her new online venture, which is exactly what we talked about.

8:24Piers Morgan:It's just there were a few other things in her life which, given I'd never interviewed her, I thought would be quite interesting to ask her about, and she threw her toys out of the stroller and apparently it was all race baiting ambush. Nonsense. I'm so glad you brought that up because her reaction was emblematic. I think of why people are so frustrated with liberal hosts like hers. Look, I'm coming from the left. I remember when she was spending most of the time during her show lambasting Bernie Sanders, punching left, defending the Democratic Party as an entity and the kind of leaders of the Democratic Party or who seemed to be the establishment pick in the 2019 era 2020 primary because for her, it did really feel like it was about partisanship as opposed to what was popular at the time, which was this left populism in Bernie and the right populism that was represented in Donald Trump.

9:15And when the stories about her old blog came up in the homophobic comments, I completely agree with you, Piers, that I'm personally very tolerant of personal growth. If she wanted to say that she's changed her mind over the years and we should forget and forget, like I'm not interested in hanging her over some opinion that she had 15, 20 years ago. but the insistence that the FBI needed to be hired to investigate whether or not it had been... It was all ridiculous.

9:39Piers Morgan:She obviously wrote it and then felt embarrassed, and that's fine. Mike Nellis, I mean, well, let's talk about Joy Reid first of all. Joy Reid was fired because she was losing ratings, losing money, and losing popular appeal. People just found it very boring. And I want to play a clip of Jon Stewart, who I really like Jon Stewart. I'm never a big fan of Joy Reid's output, but Jon Stewart I am. But this was his reaction to Colbert getting let go. A little bit quiet. Fuck, fuck, fuck yourself. Just go fuck yourself. I mean, come on, John. You know, why be so hysterical about it? Apart from anything else, Colbert's getting a 10-month way to go out.

10:26Piers Morgan:I mean, 10 months more, presumably, as he just did last night, hammering Trump every show. is going to be unbelievably tedious to watch and proof, really, of why he had to go because he's just too partisan. Well, it's too bad that's the part of the Stewart segment that you played because the monologue that he had before was actually pretty good, and then he ended it with an incredibly cliche song and dance number that I thought undercut the entirety of it. Look, we're going through some big changes in the media landscape right now, and I think Colbert and Joy Reid both are emblematic of that. With Colbert, in this case, two things are true.

11:03I think it's pretty clear that Donald Trump and the White House put pressure on Paramount to get rid of him. And Donald Trump basically said as much. He's literally celebrating it on social media. I don't think Trump had anything to do with Colbert. Listen, Pierce, Trump is going on Truth Social, and he's celebrating Colbert getting cancelled, and he's saying that Jimmy Kimmel should be next. He's happy about it, but what's the evidence? And it's another example of Donald Trump using the power of the federal government. You know, guess what, Mike? Can I finish my point?

11:27Piers Morgan:But Mike, Mike, here's my point. Guess what? Guess what? Donald Trump is happy that a guy that's been slagging him off for eight years on national television is not going to be doing it anymore. I'd be happy. Let me make my second point, though. The format of late night TV, really cable news in general, is completely broken. Yeah. So I actually think Colbert getting canceled will be the best thing for him because Colbert is a funny guy. He's a good interviewer. He's got good stories to tell. He was better on the podcast that he had during the pandemic with the other or excuse me, not during the pandemic, during the writer's strike.

11:57Like, he'll be better in whatever he does next than this because he's sort of devoted to a platform that's dying. I think the same would probably be true of Kimmel and Fallon whenever they eventually get cancelled.

12:06Piers Morgan:Yeah, they'll end up like Jimmy Costa, who has a very successful sub-stack in which he's now full-on Trump bashing. And that's fine. Go on sub-stack, be full-on Trump bashing, whatever you're wrong to your vote. It's no different than you having this platform where you can say whatever you want without a big media conglomerate telling you what you want. So the media landscape is getting more fragmented. People are going out and doing that. Right, the difference between me and those guys is that they were unashamedly partisan while they were in their jobs where they were supposed not to be. And now they can be unashamedly partisan on platforms because they don't need to abide by the old rules, but they didn't anyway.

12:40Piers Morgan:I mean, Lindy Lee, I've noticed this. Trump has brought out the worst in so many people on the left. Because the best way to pick off Trump is to pick off his ideas, to stay calm. It drives him nuts when people stay calm. Stay calm, stay warm, congratulate him when he gets stuff right. But if you really want to play into Trump's hands, then be full-on deranged. And if you do that, he absolutely loves it because it shows partisan mainstream bias. And that's all he wants. Absolutely. President Trump loves being a troll. One thing I do want to mention about Stephen Colbert, I've seen a lot of postmortems about the situation, but no one has really mentioned that he perpetrated a lie upon the American people.

13:21I helped to co-host a fundraiser that he did on March 28th, 2024 at Radio City Music Hall with Obama, Clinton and Biden. And by that time, Biden was so decrepit. He had trouble walking off the stage, had trouble articulating any thoughts. Our event was also just bombarded by like 10 different protesters. The event was a complete disaster. But Stephen Colbert was a headliner for that event. He told American people that Biden was fit, that he was somehow a genius behind closed doors, that he's running in circles around everybody. just that we shouldn't believe our lying eyes that this guy wasn't fit.

13:55And he has yet to apologise for that. How do you have any credibility left without issuing a male culpa? How do you have any sort of trust with most of America when you basically designated half of them as liars, as conspiracy theorists?

14:09Piers Morgan:Yeah, I mean, it's interesting, isn't it? I'll come back to you, Brad. Hunter Biden's given this explosive podcast interview, which I have to say was... Unbelievable. I swear. Shameless. Yeah, shameless, but actually incredibly watchable and interesting. And I kind of, you know, as a father of three sons, I quite admired him going into bat for his dad in such an unbelievably full-on, aggressive, torching way. Tree-head fashion. But let's watch this clip of what he said about George Clooney. Fuck him. Fuck him. Fuck him and everybody around him. I don't have to be fucking nice. Number one, I agree with Quentin Tarantino.

14:44Fucking George Clooney is not a fucking actor. He is a fucking, like, I don't know what he is. He's a brand. And by the way, and God bless him. You know what? He supposedly treats his friends really well. You know what I mean? Buys them things. And he's got a really great place in Lake Como, and he's great friends with Barack Obama. Fuck you. What do you have to do with fucking anything? Why do I have to fucking listen to you? What right do you have to step on a man who's given 52 years of his fucking life to the the service of this country, and decide that you, George Clooney, are going to take out basically a full-page ad in the fucking New York Times.

15:18Piers Morgan:You know, I did watch that and think, he's got a point. I mean, I did find the way that people like Clooney behave, where they're all in on Biden, right to the point the debate happened, and then everybody could see with their own eyes just how appalling his cognitive condition had become. Only at that stage did Clooney press the execution ramp with that New York Times op-ed. And it did seem at the time very self-serving and disingenuous to me. And all right, Hunter Biden may not be the most credible witness or defendant here, but actually a lot of what he was saying had a lot of truth about it.

15:57Piers Morgan:I mean, the way the Democrats, the liberal world, the liberal celebrities, all competed to protect the reality from the American people about Biden. And then the moment they realized they couldn't do it anymore, they chucked him under a bus. All of it was unedifying. Yeah, it was really... I'm going to let Brad answer that one. Sorry, I'll come back to you. Yeah, it was really quite a 180 degree turn that we saw from many of these people who propped him up for years. I remember the mainstream media coining the term cheap fakes to talk about videos that were real, showing Biden's decline, but just misleading somehow.

16:36A lot of them did do a 180, though I do tend to take the approach in politics better late than never to the correct position. I will say, obviously, George Clooney stabbed Biden in the back, but maybe he was right to do so. He just should have done it several years earlier. I found this Hunter Biden interview fascinating. He's definitely a character, but it's also the whole thing is insanely hypocritical. He's saying, who are you to listen to, George Clooney? Hunter Biden is only known for being Joe Biden's son and being put on boards of Ukrainian energy companies because of his brand as a member of the Biden.

17:11Other than that, Biden family. Other than that, he's best known for being a deadbeat dad. And he took shots at the liberal Pod Save America bros, which I'm no huge fan of. But he was like, you just rode being a junior speechwriter for Obama. And I'm like, OK, but you just rode being the son of a politician. So, I mean, entertaining to watch. He makes some good points. But the entire Hunter interview is rife with some really galling hypocrisy and audacity.

17:37Piers Morgan:You know what? I think he's just got to the stage, Brianna, where he doesn't give a fuck anymore. No, there's no stage. And I think, honestly, I don't blame him. He's had so much crap poured on his head and his dad's been absolutely buried. And he's really, a lot of it is just anger at the people who he thinks have just been so disingenuous. And, you know, I'm not defending for a moment all the stuff Hunter got up to, but my God, has he paid for that. And I think that a lot of it was just the anger of a son who's watched these people sucking up to his dad, probably in the most nauseating manner.

18:13Piers Morgan:You know, Clooney with that fundraiser in LA, you know, nothing to see here. Look at this guy, the next president, he's great. And then the first chance he gets where the people can see that's bullshit, it chucks him under a double deck. I get why Hunter's like this. Yeah, look, I think Brad really hit it out of the park. But I will say this, as much as the interpersonal dynamics of this are all hilarious and fascinating, as much as it's entertaining to hear him sort of dogpile the pod safe bros who were also like lead participants and leading the Democratic Party into the disaster that was the Biden candidacy and turned into the Kamala Harris nomination.

18:54The fact of the matter is what we're missing sight of is that the people were never given a choice. This conspiracy in which the Posse people participated, in which the Biden family participated, in which the entire Democratic Party participated, as was unpacked in great detail in the Jay Tapper Alex Thompson book. I talked to Alex Thompson recently on my own show, Bad Faith, about this. The level of detail of the cover-up is really overwhelming. All for what purpose? There simply could have been a primary. This is about removing democracy from the hands of half the country who are interested in at least exploring an option outside of Donald Trump.

19:28And they were precluded from having that opportunity because the dynasty of the Bidens, the fact of committing to the establishment of the Democratic Party, the unwillingness to even open the door, crack the door to seeing if someone could plausibly beat Biden in a primary and prove their electability in a general election was so distasteful that they lied and ignored the fact that this man was visibly senile even back during the 2019-2020 primary season. Where, if you recall correctly, if I recall correctly, both Julian Castro and Cory Booker were sort of summarily disappeared from being future leaders of the Democratic Party after they had the temerity to point out during one of those early debates that Joe Biden didn't seem to be able to remember what he had just said on the debate stage.

20:16Piers Morgan:Yeah. I mean, Mike, you were ex-senior advisor to Kamala Harris. Why didn't she tell the American people earlier what she must have seen on a daily basis? Well, I was a senior advisor at Harris before she became vice president. I think ultimately the entire - Yeah, but obviously you know her well. I just wonder why do you think she played along with the huge coverup? Because she obviously did. No one was spending more time with him than she was. I don't think, I think it, well, look, I think that the entire Democratic Party failed here. And I've been public about that for a long time. I would also say like, Lindy Lee wants to stand over there and talk about credibility when she was alongside Joe Biden for the entirety of the campaign, never said anything until it was politically convenient.

20:52That's totally not true though. because in July 24th, you didn't say anything until the minute it was no longer politically convenient for you and you thought that there was money to be made by becoming a conservative party. And let's be clear about that for a second. And you know what you did, Lindy. You know what you did, Lindy. I have said time and time again. The Democratic Party is in a terrible situation because of people like you who then jump ship the first chance they get to get money from MAGA World. That's exactly what happened. What money did I get from MAGA World? You can't just make up shit.

21:15You're making all kinds of money as a conservative influencer right now. I'm sure you're hocking a book. You've got some like silly view type show out there. Like, come on. You were there. You talk about being there. You just said it yourself. And I actually had the guts when most people didn't. I had the guts in July 2024. I'm like, are you going to let me talk or not? What's your credibility for speaking out? You didn't say one goddamn thing. If you're going to launch an ambush against me, I have every right to respond. I came out in July 2024. I went on Fox News Sunday and I said, Biden isn't cognitively fit to run.

21:42The day before, somebody from the White House actually called to threaten me and said, we know you're the president's most loyal supporter. I don't believe that at all, Indy. We know you're going to stay loyal. Mike, so you can't just rewrite history to fit whatever convenient narrative. Well, that's what you do, Lindy. That's what you're known for, rewriting history. Are you not hearing what I just said? In July 2024 and before, and I'm on record. It's September 2023. I went and I asked Ken Martin, who was then vice chair, do you think Biden's too old to run? And he said, that's nothing. Lindy, you can tell all the stories you want about part of the conversations that you had.

22:17But you're going to question somebody else's credibility for not step forward. You are at the front of that line. You're writing about saying it in 2023? Wait, I was saying it in 2020. Do I get a prize? Good for you. It took me a while to realize that. I bought into all the years. Why, but why, Lindy? Why wasn't that the establishment? I believe it. Why wasn't that people that were the most divided were unable to see what the rest of the world could see? That's the deal. I just told you. I have been exiled. I was banned from the Biden White House. How's that good for me? I was banned from the White House for daring to tell the truth.