“I’m Gonna Roast YOU!” Dave Smith vs Adam Sosnick Reunite In Comedy Battle

14 May 2026 · 45 min · 23 chapters

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In short

A debate on whether “roast” comedy can go too far, sparked by Netflix’s “The Roast of Kevin Hart,” focusing on controversial jokes about Charlie Kirk (assassination reference) and George Floyd (death/violence reference). Guests argue about free speech vs “woke” restrictions, hypocrisy/double standards, and whether Netflix should air such material.

Guest backgrounds

Dave Smith is a touring stand-up comedian and podcaster; he claims decades in comedy and owning/hiring at a comedy club. Adam “the Body Bag” Sosnick is a media personality and former stand-up who says he moved into finance and co-hosts podcasts. Emily Wilson is a podcast host. Jay Dyer is a media commentator and podcaster.

Key claims

“Wokeism” can’t be funny; the market decides (cancel culture vs ratings). No clear “line” for jokes—if audiences don’t like it, they won’t watch. Others argue some jokes are inappropriate but still defend airing them.

Notable examples

Shane Gillis hosting SNL after being fired; Bernard Manning’s “no exceptions” view; Tony Hinchcliffe’s George Floyd joke; the Charlie Kirk throat-shot joke; comparisons to Kathy Griffin/Madonna; Ben Shapiro’s critique; “N-word” pass discussion.

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The Roast Begins

0:45 to 2:56

A comedic roast where panel members critique each other and share jokes.

“I thought it'd be in the spirit of a roast to roast one other panel member.”

Woke Comedy and Netflix

2:56 to 5:42

Discussion on the impact of woke culture on comedy and Netflix specials.

“Because, Dave, as I said at the start, I wrote a book called Woke is Dead, and the premise of it was not that it was actually finished off, but the worm had turned about this kind of thing.”

Reflecting on Outrageous Jokes

5:42 to 8:06

Debate on the appropriateness of edgy jokes and their reception.

“Well, what I thought watching the Netflix special was that I used to watch a lot of those roasts.”

The Line in Comedy

8:06 to 13:34

Discussion on where the line should be drawn in comedy and individual perspectives.

“It was literally jaw-dropping, it was so offensive.”

Evaluating Humor

13:34 to 14:03

A critical evaluation of Pete Davidson's humor and its reception among peers.

“The reason we're doing this show right now is because it really wasn't that funny.”

Debating Jokes on George Floyd

14:03 to 15:03

The hosts discuss a controversial joke about George Floyd and its implications.

“One of the dumbest people who talks for a living.”

Comedy's Boundaries and Netflix

15:03 to 16:27

The conversation shifts to whether Netflix should air edgy jokes and the hypocrisy in comedy.

“Comparing a line that is supposed to be crossed, it's comedy.”

Inappropriateness in Comedy

16:27 to 17:44

Jay Dyer shares his view on the nature of inappropriate jokes and their role in comedy.

“I do remember Tony Hinchcliffe when he gave that speech at the rally for Trump before the election.”

Coping Mechanism of Humor

17:44 to 18:59

The panel discusses how humor serves as a coping mechanism for life's tragedies.

“And I'll have you know, the black community has given me 23 N-word passes, and I have chosen, out of respect for you, to not use them on your show.”

Double Standards in Comedy

18:59 to 21:01

They explore double standards in jokes targeting political figures and their implications.

“Just for example, let's say I had a really offensive joke, OK?”
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George Floyd's Family Perspective

21:01 to 22:53

The discussion turns to the response from George Floyd's family regarding comedy and sensitivity.

“Liberals are hypocrites, but let's not be that ourselves.”

The Nature of Roasts

22:53 to 25:08

Kevin Hart's view on the nature of roasts in comedy is examined, emphasizing shock value.

“We're comparing Charlie Kirk with George Floyd.”

Limits of Free Speech in Comedy

25:08 to 28:00

The final segment tackles the limits of free speech in comedy and the acceptability of certain jokes.

“People are coming in and they're looking for the shock factor.”

The Boundaries of Comedy and Offense

28:00 to 28:59

Explore the limits of comedy and societal norms around offensive jokes.

“And I remember being like, yo, dude, you can't joke about that.”

Self-Policing in Comedy

29:00 to 30:04

Discussion on self-regulation in comedy performances and platforms.

“I thought the Obama thing is, I mean, he's, that's his own thing.”

The Double Standards in Comedy

30:05 to 31:28

Examine the double standards faced by comedians based on race and political affiliations.

“PBD, if you know anything about PBD, high standards.”

The Role of Politicians in Comedy

31:29 to 32:44

Delve into how politicians respond to comedy and the implications for free speech.

“because they would legitimately lose everything.”

Outrage Culture and Comedy

32:45 to 34:31

Discussion on the culture of outrage surrounding comedians and their jokes.

“Are we really now going to turn around and when we don't like a joke, we're going to call for that person to be cancelled?”

The Fine Line of Humor

34:32 to 36:16

Explore the nuances of what constitutes acceptable humor in today's society.

“Madison Square Garden rally, I actually went to that.”

Roasting the Panel

36:17 to 37:05

A light-hearted roasting session among the panel members.

“I thought it would be in the spirit of a roast that all of you could have this opportunity to roast one other panel member in any way you see fit.”

Hypocrisy in Comedy

37:06 to 38:26

Discussion on the hypocrisy in how different jokes are received based on the speaker's identity.

“Listen, Dave, I respect the fact that he gets on there.”

The State of Late Night Comedy

38:27 to 40:10

A critique of the current state of late-night comedy and its political leanings.

“This is supposed to be a comedy panel, and no one has been very funny, so I don't know what to tell you.”

Reunion Banter and Humor

42:00 to 42:29

Piers Morgan and guests exchange lighthearted banter reflecting on their past.

“You are a basket of delightful human beings, and it's my joy, my warm joy...”
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0:01Piers Morgan:Podcaster and Comedian Day tickets are definitely available. Smith, Adam the Body Bag Sosnick, his very large chance on Uncensored. No one told me Adam was going to be on this. Why is Adam on the comedy panel? I just need a minute to gather myself. Listen, I did stand-up comedy in my 20s and I know funny. Well, you failed out of stand-up comedy and Pete Davidson became a multi-millionaire famous success from it. So maybe you're not in a position to determine whether it's good comedy or not. What's the funniest joke Pete Davidson has ever said other than that joke? Dave Smith, comedian. Adam, you really are like one of the dumbest people who talks for a living.

0:37We're all ignoring the wigger question because that's riding the line.

0:42Piers Morgan:Who is this WLK right here? I thought it'd be in the spirit of a roast to roast one other panel member. I'm gonna roast you. Here's you a real wigger.

0:55Piers Morgan:Woke is Dead. And while I'm famously not a fan of self-promotion or of saying I told you so, I did write a best-selling book explaining why. This week, another case in point, The Roast of Kevin Hart, aired on Netflix on Sunday and has been debated breathlessly ever since. There was something to offend everybody. Racism, sexism, ableism, classism, sizism, anti-Semitism. A bit like one of our debates, if you watch from the standpoint of Ben Shapiro. It was, by some margin, more shocking than the kind of content which used to result in literal walkouts by woke left Netflix employees. The era of Anything Goes is truly back in full swing, it seems.

1:32Piers Morgan:But that doesn't mean everyone's enjoying it. Jokes about Charlie Kirk and George Floyd, for example, have sparked a heated debate about whether insult humour oversteps the mark and about the competing hypocrisies of a left and right. So can comedy ever go too far? And if the answer is yes, where is that line and who should get to decide? Regular viewers probably know my view. The line is, wherever I decide it should be, often based on whether I personally like or know the person involved. And so, for a change, I'm going to let my comedy panel have their say. They each have a strong track record for making us laugh, in some cases, unintentionally.

2:08Piers Morgan:Podcaster and comedian Dave Smith is back on tour in June. Tickets are definitely available, although I'm here running out quickly. Returning to Uncensored, Adam the Body Bag Sosnick. pbd tells me this will be his very last chance on uncensored i'm sure media personality emily wilson hosted the emily sage qatar podcast and jay dyer so welcome to all of you why is adam on the comedy panel let's start i was a failed stand-up comedian i was a failed stand-up comedian that got into finance and decided to focus on making money which i know a lot of you influencers Need to learn a little bit more about that, but happy to be here, Piers.

2:51Piers Morgan:Well, hopefully we'll learn as we go along about comedy in the modern age, particularly this year. Because, Dave, as I said at the start, I wrote a book called Woke is Dead, and the premise of it was not that it was actually finished off, but the worm had turned about this kind of thing. And they can't be a bigger example, surely, than Netflix, which has historically been filled with many, you know, traditionally woke employees, who had protested numerous times about stuff, who on this occasion have allowed Netflix to air one of the most inappropriate, outrageous, shocking, shaming and all the other isms I recited earlier about absolutely everything shows imaginable.

3:35Piers Morgan:What does that tell us about where we've reached in the woke trajectory? Yeah, I mean, it's been, you know, it's very interesting for me, because as you know, Pierce, I'm kind of like a hybrid or what, you know, like I'm kind of in both the political and the, like I'm a touring standup comedian. But when I come on your show, I'm not really coming on as a comedian. I'm also obsessed with politics and I like talking about this stuff. There's, look, I mean, I've watched this. I watched the whole rise of wokeism, its effect on comedy and the fall of it. And essentially what happened was just that the market spoke.

4:11You know, guys like, the best example I thought ever was when Shane Gillis got invited back to host, and he's done it a couple times now, Saturday Night Live. I mean, literally, the guy got fired as a cast member and then got brought in to host the whole show. And you know why? Because he was selling out stadiums all over the country. And like at a certain point, Netflix and Saturday Night Live, they look at it and they go, well we need the people i mean that's our business model and because of and we could get like a whole book could be written on this but by the very fundamental nature of what wokeism is it cannot be funny it's impossible to be woke i totally agree and so yeah in in the in the in the comedy world that when wokeism came in everything became a lecture everything became about like making this point and that's just the enemy of funny and so it you watched it comedy central was like dude when i was when i started comedy so i've been doing stand-up for 20 years when i started comedy central the the comedy network in america had the chapelle show south park uh tough crowd with colin quinn uh the daily show and the colbert report it was like some of the greatest comedy shows that have ever been made.

5:28And in the era of wokeism, they just produced like nothing. And so essentially, yeah, I think you're right, Pierce. Wokeism still exists. The tides have turned and it's now a super majority issue to oppose it because it's stupid and it always has been.

5:42Piers Morgan:Well, what I thought watching the Netflix special was that I used to watch a lot of those roasts. I remember them and they were always completely outrageous and they always involved incredibly shocking and outrageous jokes and deeply offensive. That was the whole point of being roasted. The roasty would be absolutely torn to pieces in the most shocking, personal and offensive manner imaginable. And I remember there was a famous northern comic in the UK called Bernard Manning, who was deemed too outrageous after the 80s to appear on television. But he used to sell out all his shows. And I went to see him in a working men's club and he was completely hilarious, but shocking and outrageous and would have fitted him very nicely to the roast kind of format.

6:26But when I interviewed him, I said to him, you know,

6:29Piers Morgan:he told Juggs about everything, right? And they were all offensive and would have got him cancelled left, right and centre if he'd done it in the last few years. But what he said was, I took a view, he said, early on in my comedy career, that I wasn't going to make an exception for anybody because the moment you make an exception, The moment you give one section of society a comedic pass from being offended by a joke, you never stop. In other words, once you say, right, I'm not going to tell jokes about, you know, Jewish people or black people or whatever it may be. Once you eliminate one section of community from your target range, you said, actually, you're being very exclusive, right?

7:12Piers Morgan:You're basically saying there's one rule for them and another rule for everybody else. And it made sense to me then. This was back in the early 90s, I did this interview. But I thought of him when I watched the Netflix thing. Because, Adam, when I watched it, I was like, in a way, although some of the jokes I felt crossed a line, and I've said in the modern, I'm a bit hypocritical, honestly, about my humour, and it really depends who they're doing it to and how they're doing it, and I think I have to admit that and say, I have a bit of an inconsistency on this. But it was refreshing that it seemed like all the restrictions had come off.

7:51Piers Morgan:It was no holds barred. Kevin Hart found the whole thing hilarious. Everyone who was the subject of a shocking joke laughed, whether it was Chelsea Handler or Lizzo or The Rock or whoever it was. I mean, Tony Hinchcliffe did seven minutes of... It was literally jaw-dropping, it was so offensive. But everyone was laughing. And then he comes to the crunch point, which is what I want to ask you, Adam, which is a joke that Pete Davison told, and it was this. Let's watch. Tony reminds me of Charlie Kirk and that he's definitely been on camera letting a guy unload in his throat.

8:33Piers Morgan:So there will be a lot of people who will have found that across the line, that it was too offensive, that it's too soon after Charlie's murder. And you've got to think of his wife, his widow, his family, his kids, people around him who would have probably found that horrendous. When you heard that joke from Peter, which got a mixed response, but when you heard that, did you feel that crossed a line? Well, listen, Pierce, I did stand-up comedy in my 20s and I decided to end up focused on making money and that's how I met PBD in the finance world. than we started the podcast together in 2020. But I know funny.

9:13What happened with me personally, and I'll get to Charlie Kirk because I knew Charlie Kirk very well, is I said rather than being a stand-up comedian and sleeping on friends' couches, let me make some money. Ten years later, I made a bunch of money. I owned a stand-up comedy club and I hired comedians. In fact, the biggest star on SNL, I found him when he was 19, Marcelo Hernandez, who has the number one show on Netflix right now. He actually worked for myself in PBD at Valuetainment. So I know funny. I'm sitting in a van down by the river right now, sweating my tush off right here. Shout out to Chris Farley.

9:42I've been around funny people. In fact, you know Vinny O'Shaughnessy, who's on your show, one of the funniest, greatest people who's about to cross one million in comedy. He's incredible. But there's also people who make their name in this career by not being that funny. Pete Davidson is one of them. Jimmy Kimmel is one of them. I'm not going to go there and say Dave Smith is one of them. That's not what I'm going to do. But the reality is, Charlie Kirk was an absolute hero. And what's happening with him, People are literally taking their proverbial shots at him. The bottom line is this. Pete Davidson, name one famous joke he's ever made.

10:15I can tell you jokes that Dave Chappelle made, that George Carlin made, that every single comedian famously made, Chris Rock, right? Bring me the big piece of chicken. What has Pete Davidson ever done that's been funny? In fact, when your dating career is more in the headlines than your comedy career, you're probably not that funny. So it's just par for the course. But the bottom line is this. We need to stop being so offended in this country. and realize that free societies love comedians. And that's where we are.

10:42Piers Morgan:Right. So you end with a little stinger at the end because it looked like you were going down a path of saying you thought Pete Davidson crossed a line. So do you think he crossed a line? And should Netflix have aired that joke? I don't think there's any line you can cross. The market will speak. If Pete Davidson wants to start doing stand-up comedy shows again and nobody shows up, let the market speak. I believe in free market capitalism. I don't believe in censorship. I don't believe in cancel culture, even if you're unfunny. If we were canceling unfunny people, there's a lot of comedians that would have been canceled years ago, Pete Davidson being one of them.

11:18So there's no line to cross.

11:20Piers Morgan:Okay. And Dave, I didn't get a chance to specifically ask you about this. And just very quickly, what did you think of that joke? It was hilarious. It was a great joke. I don't even, like, understand entertaining this conversation of whether it crossed the line. And as you pointed out, Pierce, right? Like, it just shows everybody's hypocrisy immediately. Because, like, the people who are outraged about the George Floyd joke aren't outraged about the Charlie Kirk joke and vice versa. It's a roast. It's edgy comedy. And if you don't like it, then don't watch it. It's really that simple. And, you know, I mean, look, I'm friends with Pete.

11:52I was friends with Pete when we were coming up in comedy together. And, like, again, Adam can have whatever opinion he wants on who he thinks is funny and who isn't funny. The bottom line is that millions of people love Pete Davidson. And if he does go on a stand-up tour, he'll be selling out giant theaters. So, like, if you don't like it, that's fine. But that was a hilarious joke.

12:12Piers Morgan:He also does a lot of these roasts, and he regularly has awful jokes told about his father, who died on 9-11, and he laughs and accepts 9-11. But, Pierce, it's all about, obviously, right, with comedy, it's all about the intention, right? Like, the intention of anyone doing comedy is to try to get everyone in the room to crack up laughing. That's the goal. Pete does it. The goal when Pete tells that joke isn't, like, to get people to walk out. It's to kill, to make it as edgy as possible and still hit you with a big punchline. And that's it. That's the natural... That's the way comedy works. It's a discussion between the comic and the audience.

12:50It doesn't matter who's not there. The reason that we're having this discussion right now is because the joke was actually, in my opinion, your entitled tears, not funny. It was completely offensive. A gay Tony Hinchcliffe sexual reference to the fruit. But Adam, couldn't you acknowledge, and I'm not trying to take a shot at you here, you failed out of being a stand-up, well, you failed out of stand-up comedy and Pete Davidson became a multi-millionaire famous success from it. So maybe you're not in a position to determine whether it's good comedy or not. No, the fact that I owned a comedy club and I hired hundreds of comedians gives me the credibility to say, I know what's funny and not funny.

13:30There is no opinion. Because I've seen people who sell out crowds. Let me just tell you this. Dave, listen. Let me speak, Dave. Let me speak. You just spoke. There's no one's opinion. Relax, Dave. Let me at least speak. Okay, I'm just... Are you going to let me speak or no? I'm pretty relaxed. You started. So well, you two. Okay, that's fine. That's fine. The reality is this. The reason we're doing this show right now is because it really wasn't that funny. What's the funniest joke Pete Davidson has ever said other than that joke? Dave Smith, comedian. I know a ton of... Exactly. He's never told a funny joke.

13:59Let me bring in Emily Wilson. Emily, welcome back to... One of the dumbest people who talks for a living. Let me bring Emily back in.

14:08Piers Morgan:Go ahead. Welcome you back to the show. Emily, what did you think of that joke? Because the George Floyd joke, which Dave refers, this was Tony Hinchcliffe, who said, the black community is so proud of you to Kevin Hart. Right now, George Floyd is looking up at us all, laughing so hard he can't breathe. And again, there were gasps and then some people were laughing, some were clapping. Did you find that joke funny? Well, yeah, Pierce, I can't be a hypocrite. If you recall, you were very upset about my joke about George Floyd that I had made previously. So yeah, I do think it's funny. I also don't put George Floyd and Charlie Kirk in the same category.

14:47I thought the entire special was really good. I thought it was really funny. The only problem is I just didn't think that joke about Charlie Kirk was funny. I think he could have took that joke, used anyone else in a different scenario, and I think it would have been more funny. Did he cross a line then for you? Comparing a line that is supposed to be crossed, it's comedy. Do I think it's inappropriate? Yeah. Do I think it was uncalled for? Yeah. Do I think he could have done a better job? I don't think he's funny, and I don't think the joke was funny. You're comparing a guy who has children that are going to grow up and see these things, whose throat got shot out, traumatizing millions of people around the world to like, I'm sorry, what's the politically correct statement?

15:29Blowing loads in the guy's throat. Those two things have nothing in common. It makes no sense. And I don't think it's funny. And also, I want to point out.

15:37Piers Morgan:OK, but should Netflix, you're perfectly entitled to find it funny or not. And as Dave said, there were lots of people that were cracking up and there'd be other people who were outraged. But a lot of people felt Netflix shouldn't have aired the Charlie Kirk joke or the George Floyd one. No, Netflix should 100 % air it. The irony of Netflix is how woke and sensitive they are. So for them to ironically choose to air the one thing that targeted the most loved conservative is such bullshit. I'm sorry. That's the hypocrisy of it all. I mean, obviously, you have Ted Sarandos, who is a huge liberal.

16:13But I'm like, these are the same groups of people that were supportive of cancelling Kevin Hart, that were also supportive of cancelling Tony Hinchcliffe. But when it's aimed at a conservative, all of a sudden the rules go out the window.

16:26Piers Morgan:I mean, it is interesting. I do remember Tony Hinchcliffe when he gave that speech at the rally for Trump before the election. Outrage over some of the jokes he made then and calls for him to be cancelled and so on. and they would be by a lot of people who would consider themselves woke left who have been oddly a little bit quiet about what Netflix have done here. Let me bring in Jay Dyer. Welcome to Uncensored, Jay. What did you feel about not just the Charlie Kirk joke, but also the George Floyd one, those two in particular? Well, my first inclination was to feel that it was inappropriate. However, I remember the last time I was doing a stand-up event in L.A.

17:07I made the joke that we know what happened to the magic bullet in the case of JFK because it went into the throat of RFK. So I feel like that joke, which went silent to the entire audience. Thank you. That was silent for the whole audience. The audience didn't think it was funny. But then I realized inappropriateness is actually the part that makes comedy funny. So while it may be inappropriate, it doesn't mean that it shouldn't be aired. And I'll have you know, Piers, the last time I was on, we were disagreeing about a certain word that starts with the letter N. And I'll have you know, the black community has given me 23 N-word passes, and I have chosen, out of respect for you, to not use them on your show.

17:53Well, that would be entirely a matter for you.

17:55Piers Morgan:Go for it. Go for it. People can behave how they want on the show. Hold on. So in the case of what you said about the PBD guy, didn't the market speak in the case of Pete Davidson? You said let the market speak. Didn't it speak? Well, you actually, to be honest, Jay Dyer raises an interesting point. Dave says, let me bring you back in here. If he decided to tell a joke right now, Jay Dyer, including the N-word repeatedly, would you feel that crosses a line? No, personally, no, I don't. Like, if you're talking about a joke, if the intention is to be funny, then I think he's trying to make people laugh.

18:30And again, people can have whatever feelings they want to about this. But can I just point this out? Because this is a very, like, I've made this point a lot through the years of wokeism. But Pierce, imagine, let's say, because, like, I grew up in Brooklyn in the 80s and 90s. And, like, I've, like, I've been in a few project buildings in my day. And I don't know if anyone's ever, like, hung with black people in the hood. But you wouldn't really characterize them as being sensitive. You know, like, that's not really the way. It's always, like, white. Dave straight from the hood right here. Liberals.

18:58It's kind of like white liberals in defense of black people will get very offended by this stuff. Just for example, let's say I had a really offensive joke, OK? Like a really edgy joke. And I were to go tell it on a job site. And I were to go tell it on a job site. And then I were to go tell it at an Ivy League university. Where do you think I would draw more outrage? We all know it's at the Ivy League university. See, the thing is that people who have been through some fucked up shit tend to laugh at some fucked up jokes. And people who haven't been through that are like, what are you doing? I'm offended on behalf of these people.

19:36A lot of comedy is like a coping mechanism with the tragedy of life. And this is the way we do it. We try to laugh at that. My grandfather was a Jew who escaped Nazi Germany, and he loved Holocaust jokes. Like, life is complicated, man. And it's just, I don't. Those are the best jokes, Dave. You're the best at that. Okay, Adam, what are you trying to do here, buddy? Like, what are you trying to do? I'm just saying those are good jokes. You're good at the Holocaust jokes. I'm proud of you. Okay, Adam, okay. I'm giving you a compliment. Go watch our debate from last time. Okay, so anyway. That's great.

20:07We're bringing up previous debates. Stay on this, Dave. Yeah, I thought that's the rule. We're allowed to bring up previous debates where someone got destroyed, remember? Oh, exactly. That's what you did last time. There we go. Okay, except I have one that I did. Oh, my thing that I'm curious about, but this is what I want to know. Do you think if what happened to Charlie Kirk happened to a well-known and loved Democrat that they would be telling any of these jokes? Absolutely not. Also, if you're saying the whole point of the joke is for the audience to... Thank you. And the whole point of the audience is to be like, this is hilarious.

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20:38I'm a little, let's just say, unwell about the fact that the joke to the audience about getting his throat shot out, which traumatized millions of people, is like, ha, ha, ha. But yet Shane Gillis was like half the time getting oohs when it came to race, women, Jewish jokes. And I'm like, so they feel way more comfortable laughing about him. And they wouldn't say that about a Democrat. They just wouldn't. Well, I certainly think it's true.

21:00Piers Morgan:That's true. Liberals are hypocrites, but let's not be that ourselves. Well, had you had a big leading liberal Democrat figure assassinated like Charlie Kirk was, I don't think for a moment Netflix would have aired that joke about that person. So I suspect there is a double standard, notwithstanding the fact that Netflix, in many people's eyes deserve credit to sort of barreling through the woke period and saying, right, we're going to put this on our platform, right, with all this outrageous stuff. Pierce, I think you're making a good point. I think Emily made a great point. And who said that women can't be funny?

21:36Look at Emily Save America right now. But I'll tell you this. Let me just shift the conversation. I think we should stop being so offended by jokes and be offended by the people who actually committed the crimes, the Tyler Robinsons. The Luigi Mangionis, okay? I don't think that Ayatollah or Nazis are that funny. We should be outraged at those people, not people telling the jokes about the people that were assassinated by these people. So Charlie Kirk was an American hero. It's a shame to see how he's sort of a punchline at this point. But I believe in a free society. I believe in the free exchange of ideas.

22:10And even though I'm disgusted by the joke, he could say it all day, every day, Pete Davis.

22:15Piers Morgan:Well, look, it's interesting. I mean, if you look at... Pierce, can I... Let me just say what George Floyd's family said by way of response, for example. They responded through a spokesperson saying that Hart's decision to allow Tony Hinchcliffe on stage was sad for the culture, arguing that Hart should have stepped in before the joke landed, given Hinchcliffe's history of making similar remarks at other events. They said, we're trying to rebuild things for our community and make things better in our community. Let's try to be a little bit more positive and not sit up there doing colon inspections by white comedians.

22:46Piers Morgan:um you know we who said that quote if you don't mind this was the george floyd family okay why do we care what george floyd family says about yeah why do we why are we worried about their family well george floyd george floyd was was killed by a police officer who's now serving oh the hero george floyd the innocent angel who helped society exactly the police officer was found guilty of deliberately killing him so that you know you can have your own view about it but his family are entitled to take your view that they have um and the same way that charlie kirk's you know it's interesting to me emily you're you know you're outraged about the floyd family having any feelings about him who was it was killed by a police officer but you you're equally outraged the other way about the charlie kirk joke because you feel like he should be no george floyd overdosed it was in the autopsy the policeman did everything he was supposed to the other policeman threw him under the bus when you go through the training and all the legal stuff i thought we had been over this and reached like a normal statement uh he was a career criminal and he was a horrible person and i don't care what him or his family that's happy to get money has to say about it well i don't think police police officers should go around let me pick up i think emily i think emily is partially right everything she said i don't care about george one.

24:06I think the bigger picture is this. We're comparing Charlie Kirk with George Floyd. Let's just sink that in for a second. The fact that these two names are on the same page is hilarious, and it shows how ridiculous society has become. The greatest person on the right, the conservative that led the movement to helping Trump get elected on colleges versus a career criminal drug addict, this is the parallel? Stop it, guys. Let's go up a little bit.

24:32Piers Morgan:OK, let me ask Jay this story. This was Kevin Hart defending the concept of a roast on social media. That, my friend, is what the fuck a roast is supposed to be. It's goddamn hard-hitting, relentless jokes with no consequence. It's the concept of a roast. You go hard, you go home. No emotion, no fucking feelings, man. It's not what a roast is about. Leave the emotions and the feelings at the front fucking door. People are coming in and they're looking for the shock factor. You know, that's the guy who was the target of most of the jokes. And like I say, when I watched it, the atmosphere in the room was very much like they're all sticking it to each other.

25:23Piers Morgan:All bets are off. There's no limit. You can say whatever you like and everyone was having a good time. But the reaction of people who weren't in the room has been different in many cases. Should there be no line? I mean, you know, you raised a point about the use of the M word. Nobody would do that on a high-profile television show, radio show, podcast, or anything else. You just wouldn't hear it, right? You wouldn't hear it. Unless your name's Nick Fuentes. Unless you're black. Well, yeah, I'm talking about white people wouldn't do that. high-profile white people wouldn't, because they would believe it crossed a line.

26:00Piers Morgan:So there is a line there, isn't there? But it's a question of how far that line goes. Exactly. And we're all ignoring the elephant in the room, which is the W question. We could talk about the JQ. We've got Jews here. We could talk about that. But what about the WQ, which is the Uyghur question, because that's riding the line. And as a representative of the Uyghur community, in fact, many people think that I'm kind of the emperor of Wixantium, I think that's a great segue. If we start using the word Uyghur, if we accept Uyghur culture, we can then transition into the normalization of the full-on inward, and then everyone will have an inward pass.

26:42Then we're done. Then we really have free speech.

26:45Piers Morgan:Okay, I get the point you're making. Who is this, WLK right here? No, no, I get the point you're making. But Dave Smith, is there no line? I mean, should... Well, I was just thinking about this. If you were listening to this debate, it seems like if there's no line, there's no line. But there are lines, so we know that. It's a bit like the First Amendment. You know, everyone thinks it's protective of all speech, but it's not. There are limitations. But if you listen to the first half of this debate, you'd say, well, these guys don't think there should be any limit on a joke, so why is there a limit on using the N-word, for example?

27:21Okay, I, okay, here, I mean, look, I think it's kind of subjective, like in the same sense of saying whether you think something's funny or not is kind of, whether you think a joke's funny or not, you're right, I guess, because to you, that's what it is. I will say this, okay, Pierce, there is one joke ever that I've been genuinely offended by. I think this is 20 years in stand-up comedy. There's only one joke I was ever genuinely offended by. And it was when Barack Obama got on at the White House correspondent dinner thing. And he made a joke. He said, Sasha and Malia are now old enough to date.

27:56I have two words for you boys, predator drones. And I remember being like, yo, dude, you can't joke about that. Like you actually murder people with, that's the joke that like, hey, people get murdered by my predator drones. Like, so in that sense, I that's the only time I've ever been offended by a joke. You'd have to be an actual murderer who was joking about the murders that you commit. I think that's over the line. Aside from that, Pierce. No, I don't really think there is one. And if you listen again, you don't have to watch the show. You don't have to go to a comedy club. You don't if you're offended by it, you're not wrong.

28:38It's just then it's not for you. But if we want to have a free society, then yeah, people have the right to do it, including using any word out there. Yes, people don't have a right to initiate violence or incite violence against other people, but they have a right to make whatever joke they want to. And if there's an audience that finds it funny, then God bless them. That's what being in a free society is all about. Yeah, Adam, do you agree with that? Yeah, look at us agreeing, Dave. I thought the Obama thing is, I mean, he's, that's his own thing. I'll let him deal with that. But I agree with Dave.

29:09Dave, it's a free society, free speech. You know what I used to say when I did stand-up comedy, because I did some racial jokes, blacks, Jews, I live in Miami, Latinos, Cubans. I would do accents. I said, the one thing is this. It's not racist if you make fun of everybody. If you're just like, you know what? The only people I hate are Mexicans. It's like, all right, now you're just a racist. But if you're an equal opportunity employer and you're judging comedy based on merit, there's no racism. Anyone can say whatever they want to say if you're just an equal opportunity. Would you do it on the PBD podcast?

29:42Piers Morgan:Would you tell Shane Gillis that he did some Jewish jokes? Would you tell genocide jokes? Would you tell Holocaust jokes? In other words, would you do that on your own platform? Or are you saying this because you think it sounds good as part of a debate like this, but actually when it comes to your own platform, you would be more self-policing? Time and place, Pierce. There's things that I will say and that won't cross a certain line. PBD, if you know anything about PBD, high standards. Let's get this thing right. He's a leader amongst leaders. He doesn't play that game, and he's helped me raise my standards and raise my game.

30:20Same with Vinny. Same with Tom. Shame for everything that we're doing in value attainment at Bed David. Consulting, high standards, high standards, high standards. But that's different from me listening to a joke out in the public atmosphere. So, no, there's things that I won't say. I won't say the N-word. I won't cross certain lines. I think that's lowbrow. But I'll defend your right to say it or be unfunny and deal with the consequences of that. So, in essence, yes, I'm agreeing with the comedian, Dave Smith, in this regard.

30:50Piers Morgan:I think we now have our headline, which will go viral. I agree with Dave Smith, says Adam Solzheny. All right, Emily, what do you think? Pierce, you're actually trying to be funny today, so I've got to give you credit. I'm naturally funny, mate. Well, I don't understand, because I think... The British accent is all the... Are we all kind of saying? We have an advantage. When you have a British accent, you're naturally hilarious. Everybody knows that in America. I don't know about that. Emily? Okay, so we're saying that we all agree that there shouldn't be a line, but at the same time, there will always be a line for white people, because you can have black comedians go on and say whatever they want, or pretty much everyone else, but a white comedian could never go on and say the N-word because they would legitimately lose everything.

31:31They'd be canceled. They would not have a way to make a living. So it's like, we're all saying that there shouldn't be a line, yet we all know that for, I would say specifically white people, there will always be a line and that line won't go away. I would also like to point out the hypocrisy of everyone on that stage is a Democrat. There wasn't really any huge Republicans on that stage. And I'm like, but those are the people who have pushed for censorship, who get offended at everything, who said we can't make jokes. These are the same people that killed Hollywood, killed comedy, and now all of a sudden they're like, you guys, we're back.

32:02Don't get butt hurt. Yeah. I'll give you one caveat. Cat Williams. I don't know where Cat Williams is these days. That was the storyline that got lost through all of this. Pierce, I'm not sure if you're following what happened with Cat Williams and Kevin Hart. Are you familiar with that drama and that saga? Yeah, of course. And that beef. Do you know about that?

32:17Piers Morgan:Yeah, yeah, of course. Okay, so it was great to see that them squashed their beef. And just like me and Dave Smith, we can get along in the spirit of comedy even if you're perceived as enemies. Look at that. Shout out to Cat Williams and Kevin Hart pretending to be friends. Okay, so can Republicans be comedians now? Well, I think... Everyone can be comedians. Do you know what? Funny enough, in all the debate about things like Jimmy Kimmel... Apparently not. In all the things about Jimmy Kimmel's jokes about Trump or whatever it may be, or the Charlie Cote one he did, which got him into big trouble, I did remember thinking that I admired the intellectual honesty of people like Ted Cruz, who refused to join in the Conservative demands to fire Jimmy Kimmel over a joke, because he said, we have complained about the woke left doing this to us for years.

33:07Piers Morgan:Are we really now going to turn around and when we don't like a joke, we're going to call for that person to be cancelled? I admired that. And there were quite a few that did that. But there were others who didn't. I mean, Ben Shapiro has led... He's had a difficult few weeks, Ben Shapiro, from what I've been reading. But he said this about the Charlie Kirk joke in particular.

33:526 5 winning is everything. Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER. 21 plus only must be physically located in Illinois. TNC supply in app only. With Pete Davidson, that is, that is a horrible joke. I gotta say, I'm not here to, to scold people for, for telling jokes. I, I'm making, um, a gay oral sex joke and a Charlie Kirk being shot to death joke in the same joke. That is, that's a new low. I'm not sure that I've ever heard a joke quite as bad as that joke right there.

34:28Piers Morgan:So, you know, he's making his point about the jokes, but what was interesting is if we go back to that joke I referenced about Tony Hinchcliffe at Trump's Madison Square Garden rally, I actually went to that. It's the only rally I've ever been to. Let's take a look at what he said that day. There's literally a floating island of garbage in the middle of the ocean right now. Yeah. I think it's called Puerto Rico. There was absolute outrage about that. And yet Hinchcliffe's seven-minute set in this roast on Netflix was infinitely more offensive to infinitely more people. Yeah. And there's been nothing like the outrage.

35:04Piers Morgan:And that's the bit, I think, Jay, where I look at this and go, there remains just a weird inconsistency, double standard, intellectual dishonesty about this whole thing. Well, in the words of Cat Williams, Piers Morgan, ain't nobody going in my booty hole. Not an alien. This guy deserves his own special. Well, I was going to ask you all, actually. This guy's funnier than you, David. He's not even a comedian. This guy's good. In the spirit of a roast then, Jay. Listen, I'll give you the line. I'll give you the line. I'll give you the line. The line for this is you look at, there's a trend right now on TikTok where you got teenagers and they're sort of mimicking the assassination of Kirk, right?

35:47So when the left does a lot of these jokes, and I grant that it's hard to usually tell intention, they are actually at times trying to spark people to be violent. We all remember Kathy Griffin, right? She was saying, I wish people would do it. Madonna says, you know, people do this because they know that lunatic leftists will pop off because they're inspired by their God, the media, that tells them what to do. So I think that might be a line if we were trying to find a line.

36:16Piers Morgan:Okay, look, given there's no holes barred on this show, I'm going to call it uncensored. I thought it would be in the spirit of a roast that all of you could have this opportunity to roast one other panel member in any way you see fit. And that's how we'll end the show. So Dave Smith, what do you want to say about Adam? There's nothing left to roast. Give it to me good, baby. Give it to me good. I don't, I didn't, I left nothing behind, man. Come on, Dave, you're a comedian. Give me something good, baby. David, you're on the spot, Dave Smith. Come on. I'll use my spot. Nothing but kindness and love.

36:49Patrick Bet David, Valuetainment. Love all those guys. Great show. Adam, do you want to roast Dave Smith? He got the call. Pierce, he got the call. Bibi Nanyal called him and said, go easy on the guy today. He got the call. Check his bank account for 7K, Pierce.

37:03Piers Morgan:Have you got anything you want to roast Dave about? Listen, Dave, I respect the fact that he gets on there. I take the fact that he gets on there debates. I'm not going to go there and say the same line that, why does this guy call himself a comedian? All he does is talk politics. People say he's the unfunniest comedian in America. I'm not going to go there. He's a spirited debater, and I'm happy to be here. And it's good to see even a funny person who identifies as a woman named Emily, because who says that women can't be funny? So thanks for having me, Piers. You even were kind of funny today, Piers.

37:34Thank you. Even though you're British.

37:35Piers Morgan:I appreciate it. Emily, do you want to roast anyone? What the fuck? What did you just call me? Did you call me a different woman's name? I called you Emily. I said you're Emily. No, I'm talking about Adam. You said my last name wrong. Anyways, no, I think the big... What did he call you? I don't know your last name. I think you may have missed her. Emily, here's your chance to be funny. Don't start arguing with the dude. No, not arguing with him. I'm trying to say, I think the whole point of this is it's very hypocritical. If there's any violence or jokes made against the right, it's completely fine and justified.

38:10But when we go make a, you know, Kevin Hart makes a gay bashing comment and he makes a Puerto Rico comment, they're up in arms. They're allowed to do TikToks to Charlie Kirkassass. I think you've made that point.

38:20Piers Morgan:But is there anyone on the panel you want to give a little sly roast to? Well, I don't know any of these people well enough to roast them. That doesn't matter. Come on, Emily. Give us something good, baby. Give the wigger a chance. Well, I don't know. This is supposed to be a comedy panel, and no one has been very funny, so I don't know what to tell you. All right, well, let's go to Jay. Jay, you've had a bit of time to think about this. Do you want to roast anyone? I'm going to roast you. Great. Yeah. You're on. Since you're offended by the N-word, I'm just going to say, here's you a real wigger.

38:56Piers Morgan:Thank you. I heard the W loud and clear. I'll tell you what I'd like to end with, actually, because it did strike me as hilarious last night when I saw the picture for the sad demise of Stephen Colbert. They brought together all the other late-night hosts, Jimmy Kimmel, Seth Meyers, John Oliver and Jimmy Fallon. And I thought, what a striking advertisement for the DEI that they all love to preach about, these guys. Oh, yeah. There are five middle-aged white dudes, liberal Trump haters, not a diverse or inclusive face amongst them. Sometimes real life... Sometimes real life is funnier than any comedy.

39:39What a diverse group of people. And they're all millionaires.

39:43Piers Morgan:Damn shame that Jimmy fell in. And also, you know the one who wasn't invited was Greg Gutfeld from Fox, who beats them all in the ratings, and he wasn't invited. Well, Chris, based on your comedy skills, you should have been the oldest white guy in that picture right there, part of that crew right there. But it's a damn shame to see what happened to Jimmy Fallon because he's legitimately talented, legitimately funny, and he's looped in with these middle-aged white guys who are completely unfunny. And the leader of the unfunny is by far Jimmy Kimmel. I shouldn't cancel that guy, but that guy is a hack above all.

40:14Piers Morgan:Well, the sad thing I always feel, and we've got to end, unfortunately, but I just interviewed Jay Leno recently. I just remember thinking, in the great old days of Carson or Leno or Letterman, whatever, it just felt a little bit warmer. They would use sharp comedy, but about everybody. They weren't so obviously partisan politically. Yeah, they didn't hate half the country. Right, and I think that's been one of the real problems behind why America is so divided, is that all the late-night guys, with the exception of Gutfeld, but all the late-night guys, they all do. But Fallon doesn't do it really like the others, but they just seem to think their job is to loathe half the country, and anyone who voted Trump has to be mocked and ridiculed and the Trump bashing has to be relentless.

40:59Piers Morgan:And I actually hanker for the days when you had Leno, Letterman, Conan, these guys, where this wasn't their shtick at all. Come on, Pierce. Pierce, you're old enough. You're Johnny Carson's age. You remember that. You remember what's going on. Bring back Johnny Carson. You never knew Johnny Carson's politics, ever. He never told people. He never told people. Well, even George Carlin talked about super controversial stuff, but he still was, like, loving in general. I always think it can be very controversial. I mean, I'm very opinionated, but not in a politically partisan manner. And it wouldn't cross my mind to say something which would alienate deliberately half the people watching if they vote Trump or whatever.

41:43Piers Morgan:Why would I do that? I might be critical, but I'm not going to say, like Hillary did, you're a basket of deplorables. I don't understand where that part has all come from. Anyway, guys, you're not a basket of deplorables. Pierce, why don't you roast some people on the panel? Since you're so funny right now, why don't you roast some people on the panel? All of us. You are a basket of delightful human beings, and it's my joy, my warm joy... Future looks right, Pierce. ...to have you on our session. The country is healing. Let's go. Adam, it's great to see you come out of the body bag, mate. It really is.

42:17Piers Morgan:Emily saves money. Thanks, Pierce. Great to see you out of the morgue as well. Well, my name is Morgan. Where else would I be? Good to see you all, guys. Thank you very much. Out of the morgue, back from the dead, him and Johnny Carson. I think you've saved yourself. PBD can look proudly on your performance and say it doesn't have to be the last. Thank you all very much, guys. Thank you, sir. Take it easy, Piers. Thank you. Piers Morgan Uncensored is proudly independent. The only boss around here is me. If you enjoy our show, we ask for only one simple thing. Hit subscribe on YouTube and follow Piers Morgan Uncensored on Spotify and Apple Podcasts.

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From the publisher

Netflix’s 'The Roast of Kevin Hart' has ignited a fierce new culture war debate after a barrage of controversial jokes sparked backlash from across the political spectrum.

The roast - featuring material touching on racism, sexism, ableism, antisemitism, the assassination of Charlie Kirk, George Floyd and more - has been praised by some as proof that “woke culture” is finally losing its grip on comedy, while others argue it crossed multiple lines.

As outrage erupts online, the discussion has reopened old questions about cancel culture, free speech, and whether offensive comedy should have any limits at all.

Can comedy ever go too far? If so, where is the line and who gets to decide?

Piers Morgan is joined by comedian and host of Part of the Problem, Dave Smith, PBD Podcast contributor Adam Sosnick, host of Emily Saves America, Emily Wilson, and author, commentator and YouTuber Jay Dyer to debate.
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