“It Was STAGED!” Ilhan Omar Syringe Attack + ICE Debate | With Brian Tyler Cohen

22:21BUT THAT RIGHT THERE IS THE PERFECT TESTAMENT TO WHY NOBODY BELIEVES WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE. IT'S BECAUSE EVEN THESE ARDENT RIGHT-WINGERS IN THIS COUNTRY, AND CERTAINLY THE VAST, VAST, VAST MAJORITY OF INDEPENDENTS, I'M TALKING THREE-QUARTERS OF INDEPENDENTS IN THIS COUNTRY, ARE LISTENING TO THIS GASLIGHTING AND RECOGNIZING THAT IT'S NOT JUST A LIE THEY'RE BEING TOLD, BUT IT'S UTTER CONTEMPT THAT'S BEING DISPLAYED BY THESE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. SAY AGAIN? WELL, I WOULD SAY, BRIAN, AS WHAT DID I SAY THAT WAS GASILATING? THAT THIS IDEA THAT ALEX PREDIT POSE SOME THREAT WHERE THE RESPONSE NEEDS TO BE UNLOADING HIS CLIP.

22:59I SAID THAT'S THE QUESTION TO BE RESOLVED. AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE RESOLVED BECAUSE THE REALITY IS DHS IS NOT GOING TO INVESTIGATE ANY OF THIS. DHS ISN'T GOING TO INVESTIGATE ANYTHING PREDIT IS GOING TO DO. THE DEMOCRATS ARE NOT GOING TO INVESTIGATE THE DEMOCRATS. THE DEMOCRATS ARE NOT GOING TO INVESTIGATE JONATHAN ROSS.

23:20IF THE EXCUSE IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE DON'T WORRY, WE 'LL GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS IN FULL INVESTIGATION, THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A FULL INVESTIGATION. WE HAVE TO LISTEN TO THE GASLIGHTING BEING FED TO US BY THE INCIDENT WITH ILLIAN OMAR BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF CONNECTED CAN WE TALK ABOUT USE OF FORCE POLICY? CAN WE TALK ABOUT USE OF FORCE

23:36Piers Morgan:POLICY? I WANT TO MENTION AT THIS STAGE, I WANT TO BRING IN THE INCIDENT WITH ILLIAN OMAR BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF CONNECTED TO THIS. ILLIAN OMAR WAS IN A TOWN HALL IN MINNEAPOLIS, SHE WAS ATTACKING ICE, AND THEN A GUY COMES OUT OF THE AUDIENCE, SITTING DOWN, AND SPRAYS HER WITH A STRONG SMELLING liquid from a syringe. Now, that is a potentially extremely dangerous incident. No one knows what that could have been. It turned out to be, we believe, harmless. He is wrestled away. But had it not been harmless, had it been acid or something else, then maybe she could have been very seriously hurt or dead.

24:16Piers Morgan:Now, Brandon, what has concerned me about this is that from Donald Trump, and I think you have intimated this too, there's an immediate position by people on the MAGA writes that because you don't like Ilya Omar, that she somehow staged this. It's not real. It didn't happen the way people think it did. This guy was a plant and so on. And again, it comes back to what I sense is a complete eradication of basic humanity. There ought to be parameters between left and right where we can just agree when something like that happens, we all say this is terrible and shouldn't be happening. Pierce, there is no jump to conclusion.

24:56I don't care about none of these people. They don't pay my bills. I don't have to say anything about Ilhan Omar. I don't really care about her. But the bottom line, and Donald Trump don't pay my bills either. But the bottom line is that I'm looking at this impartially. I don't know what anybody said. I saw the video, and it does not look consistent with someone trying to assault another person, which means I have never in my life seen a person get up, spray something out of syringe at someone's chest. It happened to be nothing inert. And then she comes after him. You didn't see her back away from him.

25:30You didn't see her shy away from him. You didn't see any of that nature. And the guy didn't even resist. Brandon, you would say, Brandon,

25:37Piers Morgan:you would say the complete opposite if that was a Republican congressman. That's not true. Brandon, is the guy going to jail just for fun? That's not true. Is the guy going to jail just for fun? Is that part of the show? I just want to hear a little bit more about this theory. No, no, please. Just one second. I mean, just a question. I want to hear more about this theory. That guy, is he going to jail for show? He's going to jail. I'm giving you elements of why this looks strange to me. So why do you think he's going to jail? Is he like Antifa? Is this part of like some, is this the lizard people?

26:10Listen, was there anything in the syringe? It was inert. There was nothing poisonous. There was no pepper spray. There was nothing in the syringe. I'm asking you why you think he's going to jail for this. He sprays her with the syringe in the chest. She goes after him. If you're afraid of somebody spraying you with a chemical agent, you're not going to pursue them. He resisted not one bit. He goes to the ground. She says. You don't believe it, do you, Brandon? You don't believe it? I don't think that this was staged. I don't know if it was true or not. Can I ask the question here? Can I ask a question?

26:43What if Alex Preddy had sprayed a liquid onto this ICE officer? Would you have said that there was no threat at all? It would be aggravated assault. And you would have supported executing him. No. Just like you would have supported... That wouldn't have been justification for the ICE agent to react. But merely holding a phone is justification to react. Who said that it's justified for somebody to spray something? We're talking about a specific incident where a man had a gun. They had a reason to believe that he was on the dangerous. He had a gun in his holster. He was holding a phone. He was holding a gun.

27:24Can we talk about masculinity for a second, Piers? I'd like to talk about masculinity for a second. He had a gun on him. I would, too. Did he not have a gun on him? I would, too. Did he not have a gun on him? Have you ever done law enforcement? Any one of you emasculated men on a thing? Have you ever done law enforcement? I'M HAPPY TO TAKE THIS. WHY ARE THEY EMASCULATED? APPARENTLY WE'RE EMASCULATED BECAUSE WE'RE NOT BOOTLICKERS FOR FACE AGENTS WHO WANT TO KILL SOMEBODY. APPARENTLY WE'RE EMASCULATED BECAUSE WE'RE NOT IN SUPPORT OF SIX GUYS JUMPING ON AND MURDERING A NURSE. YOU'RE A REAL MAN, Brandon, you're a real man.

28:10You can defend six-folder men unloading a clip into a mercenary. Hang on, hang on. Hang on, please. Hang on, hang on. We can't hear you when you all

28:20Piers Morgan:talk at once, nobody hears any of you. Tim? Yeah. So I have a couple of things. On this question of whether I've been an officer, this appeal to authority, I haven't, but you know who has? The chief of police of Minneapolis. No, no. The chief of police of Minneapolis. Excuse me, Brandon, let me finish talking. The chief of police of Minneapolis gave a press conference. And so is the man who shot Freddie. Brandon, let him talk. Well, actually, that's a good point. We actually don't know the man who shot Freddie because the federal government is hiding him, so we don't know who killed our own citizens yet.

28:52Isn't he? But we know that the chief of police of Minneapolis gave a press conference after the shooting of Freddie where he talked about how the judgment was irresponsible and how his police officers, every single police officer in the entire city, Minneapolis shot zero bullets last year. They encountered real criminals. Excuse me, let me finish. They encountered real criminals, not soy boy protesters. They encountered actual criminals. They encountered murderers, rapists, assault. Yeah, they did. They encountered those people. They were armed. They disarmed a thousand. According to the chief of police of Minneapolis, they disarmed a thousand people last year without firing a single bullet.

29:33These morons fired 10 bullets and and and this whole thing about this definition of this definition of masculinity okay it's like the really the tough guys are the six it's not about pushing down a woman pushing down a protester and then getting scared oh they saw a gun and i got so scared and i've got to shoot my bullet 10 times i'm so scared i'm so scared i'm gonna shoot my bullet those are the masculine men no i'm sorry the masculine guy was the guy standing up for the woman doing what men should do, standing up for the woman that got pushed down, and then in exchange for his bravery, a bunch of pussies shot him dead and unloaded six bullets into his dead body while he was laying on the ground.

30:18That's what happened. Those are the emasculated men, and I wish we had more men like Alex Preddy, but unfortunately, he's dead. You have never done any training. Hang on. You never arrested anybody. You never carry a gun. You probably don't have a gun on you now. Quit acting like you bought a grape. If you're in a scenario, do you have a gun on you? I'm concerned about your weapon, to be honest. I'm a little concerned about your weapon, based on your judgment and how big of a wuss you are. I was a police officer. How many people did you kill?

30:52Piers Morgan:If I may, if I may, Brandon, you don't have to be packing a gun to be a real man. I don't have a gun. I didn't say that. The wussy said that. I'm saying that in order for you to judge a man who's making a life and death decision, in order for you to judge another man who's making a life and death situation, it would behoove of you or have any wisdom to be in a situation like that. I've been in a situation where I had to choose whether or not I had to shoot a person or not based on use of force policy and the threat of bodily injury or death. You have never done that. So it is weird for you to try to judge a person who's in that split-second decision when you don't even carry a gun.

31:31So how about you go on a ride along and do some training and maybe you have a better perspective? It's pretty easy to judge, actually. The guy was laying on the ground. He was a corpse. And the guy shot him from a distance. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, six times. It's pretty easy to judge whether it was a threat. How many people shot him? And you can obviously tell that that guy panicked. He shit his pants.

31:51Piers Morgan:Let me bring in Jonathan. Let me bring in Jonathan. How many people shot him? Let me bring in Jonathan. Look, there's a lot of movement going on here. Bovino's been sent packing from Minneapolis. Kristi Noam's been effectively gagged. A lot of heat on Miller and others for putting them up to the rhetoric. They all seem to suggest it all come from Stephen Miller. Trump clearly aware that this is not working politically. But, you know, ICE remain doing what they're doing in other parts of America. they're deporting a reasonably large number of people, although interestingly less actually in the first year than Biden did in his last year, for example.

32:33Piers Morgan:So there are some interesting parallels here. It's not apples and oranges because Biden was letting a lot more people in. But in terms of actual deportations, it's not overly successful so far, but it is attracting, I would argue, an overly negative context now for the administration. DEPORTATION. IF YOU WERE RUNNING ICE NOW, WHAT WOULD YOU BE RECOMMENDING TO DONALD TRUMP ABOUT HOW THEY SHOULD CONDUCT THEMSELVES GOING FORWARD? WELL, I SORT OF DISAGREE A LITTLE BIT WITH YOUR PREMISE IN TERMS OF HOW IT'S BEEN SUCCESSFUL. I THINK ABOUT 1.9 OR OVER 2 MILLION PEOPLE HAVE TAKEN THE SELF-DEPORTATION OPTION WHICH IS REMOVING IN WHICH THE THE GOVERNMENT GIVES THEM$1 ,000 AND NOW THEY RAISED THAT TO $2 ,600.

33:18SO YOU PUT THAT ON TOP OF THE 600 ,000 THAT HAVE BEEN REMOVED AND THEN NOBODY ELSE COMING IN. IT'S BEEN ENORMOUSLY SUCCESSFUL. AND THE WAY, HOW DO YOU MEASURE SUCCESS? WELL, WE HAVE THE LOWEST MURDER RATE SINCE 1900 IN THIS COUNTRY. CRIME RATES ARE DOWN ABOUT 20 % NATIONWIDE. SO OUR COUNTRY IS OBJECTIVELY SAFER. WE KNOW THAT. WE KNOW PEOPLE AREN'T COMING IN IN DROVES ANYMORE. And so you have to look at the big picture. We also know things like wages are going up because when you look at illegal immigration, and you know from your country, it's not just something that has no cost to the citizens.

33:52It's enormously costly. Illegal immigration makes Americans poorer, less healthy, less safe, less educated. And that's not really even arguable. It costs$150 billion a year. And what's interesting just in tax dollars and not to mention all the other costs, AND WHAT'S REALLY INTERESTING ABOUT THIS IS EVERYONE KNOWS AT THIS POINT BIDEN AND MAYORKAS ARE BRINGING PEOPLE IN DELIBERATELY BECAUSE THEY WANT THEM TO BE VOTERS AND THEY WANT THEM TO HELP IN THE CENSUS. THERE'S REALLY NO SERIOUS ARGUMENT AGAINST THAT. IT'S VERY INTERESTING THAT THE DEMOCRATS RESPONSE TO EVERYTHING IS ALWAYS STOP THE DEPORTATION.

34:28THEY NEVER SAY, HEY, LET'S THINK OF A GOOD WAY TO GET RID OF THE ILLEGAL ALIENS. THEY 'LL NEVER SAY THAT. SO IT REALLY IS A TELL WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM. BUT AS FAR AS WHAT I THINK A GOOD MESSAGING SHOULD BE GOING FORWARD IS FOCUS ON THE CRIMINALS FOR THE DEPORTATIONS MEETING FOR THE ARREST OUTSIDE OF THE JAIL. FOCUS ON THE SANCTUARY CITIES BECAUSE ONE OF THE ISSUES WITH MINNEAPOLIS IS THE SANCTUARY CITIES WHERE THEY WOULD RATHER TURN OVER A CHILD MOLESTER BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY THAN TURN THEM OVER TO ICE. BY THE WAY, TIM WALTZ WROTE AN I THINK HE WAS A TOP ED LYING ABOUT THIS THE OTHER DAY IN THE WALL STREET JOURNAL.

35:01YOU HAVE TO WONDER, IS HE EVEN ACTING IN GOOD FAITH ON THIS? I THINK EMPHASIZE THE CRIMINALS, EMPHASIZE THE BENEFITS FROM NOT HAVING ILLEGAL ALIENS IN THE COUNTRY. AND ALSO REMEMBER, DEPORTATIONS AND BORDER SECURITY ARE INTERTWINED. BECAUSE THE REASON PEOPLE WERE COMING UNDER BIDEN WAS BECAUSE THEY KNEW THE SECOND THEY SET foot on American soil. They were all, for all intents and purposes, a citizen of this country. So you can't, you cannot have those policies or people will continue to come in. These all work together, but deport the criminals, say who you're deporting, why, incentivize self-deportation, and talk about the benefits of not having illegal immigrants.

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36:17Piers Morgan:I get it. Let me bring Brian back in. I want to play a clip of Jimmy Kimmel last night. And to the people of Minneapolis, to the pretty family and the good family, and these people who were looking out for their neighbours, we want you to know that we are with you and you are not alone.

36:38Piers Morgan:Brian, apart from the fact that Jimmy Kimmel really needs to stop crying, I just wanted to say that as a general blanket observation that barely a week goes by when he's not blubbing like a baby about something. I'm not saying he doesn't care. I'm just saying that it's getting a bit weary for me. But also, I don't remember him crying when Barack Obama was president. There's a clip during the rounds today of Obama talking in really tough language about his own deportation record and why it was so important. He deported over three million people. No liberal friends of mine gave a damn or knew how many people he was deporting.

37:18Piers Morgan:He was putting kids in cages, separating them from their families, all the stuff that people chuck at Trump. But it was never an issue throughout those eight years. He was the biggest deporter of people in the history of the United States in terms of pro rata per year as a president. So there's been a massive double standard there. And I can't help but think that one of the reasons is the liberal skewed media, which it is, I've worked in it, you know, you could shoot a harpoon around the old CNN newsroom when I was there and not hit a conservative voter, that they just didn't care, because it was their guy.

37:52Piers Morgan:And what happens this time, because everyone hates Trump on the left, and the media collectively hate Trump. So they fire everything up, then it becomes a huge thing. Then you have people going out in the streets and protesting because they've been whipped up by the media. Then you have these altercations with ICE, then you have deadly altercations, and we're in the position we're now in. You know, I do, I'm not saying they're to blame, but I'm saying that part of what we're seeing here is something that never happened in the Obama years about this kind of issue of deporting illegal immigrants, because nobody cared.

38:26Piers Morgan:And my question for you is, all right, we can have Jimmy Kimmel blubbing on TV about it because he cares so much. Why didn't he care the same way when Obama was doing this? And did you care and did you speak out about Obama's deportation record? Or do you accept that Obama pretty much shared Trump's view, which is actually, if you're in the country illegally, then you should probably be deported because there are millions of people trying to become legally immigrants to the United States, and there are hundreds of millions who've come to the country over the last century who did it the right way?

39:03Look, I can't speak to what my thoughts were during the Obama administration. I was in college, so I wasn't really paying that much attention to politics. But I would say in general, look, I am in favor of immigration. I think it's better for the economy. I also recognize that immigrants, you know, we've heard so much about crime. Immigrants commit crime at lower rates than native-born Americans. This isn't about stopping crime, because if this was about stopping crime, our law enforcement agencies would focus on the people who are actually committing it. certainly committing it at higher numbers, but they won't because this is not about crime.

39:34That's just some crazy pretext that people use to be able to justify this. Go ahead. They're not always able to find people who are illegally in this country that commit crimes. When they have a crime committal stat, it's because they've been able to find the person and prosecute the person to some degree. People that are illegally in this country have no identity. They commit crimes with complete impunity. I don't know what that means. I don't know what that means. I don't know what that means. Do you think illegal and illegal immigration are the same?

40:14Look, of course they're not the same. Of course they're not the same. Do you think both or do you believe in one or the other? But they all get treated the same. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WERE THE SAME. IF I COULD JUST SAY REALLY QUICK TWO THINGS ON THIS POINT. NUMBER ONE, RIGHT NOW THEY'RE DEPORTING PEOPLE THAT CAME THE RIGHT WAY. THEY'RE DEPORTING PEOPLE THAT CAME HERE AS ASYLEES OR REFUGEES. AND THEY'RE SENDING THEM BACK EVEN THOUGH THEY 'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH THE LEGAL PROCESS. EXCUSE ME, CAN I JUST FINISH? ASYLUM SEEKERS? YEAH, THEY ARE ASYLUM SEEKERS.

40:48THEY CAME ACROSS THE BORDER ILLEGALLY. THEY SHOWED UP TO A PORT OF ENTRY AND THEY VOLUNTEERED. THEY 'VE BEEN GOING TO THEIR CHECUPS WITH ICE, WAITING FOR THEIR COURT DATE. AND THEY'RE DEPORTING THOSE PEOPLE. EXCUSE ME. JUST REALLY QUICK. THOSE AREN'T ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS THAT ARE BEING DEPORTED. THEY'RE PEOPLE THAT HAVE DONE THE RIGHT THING. DO YOU SUPPORT DEPORTING THE OTHER PEOPLE? THE OTHER ILLEGAL ALIENS OTHER THOSE PEOPLE? I TALKED ABOUT RACHEL. I JUST WANT TO SAY ONE OTHER THING BEFORE YOU RESPOND. I WANT TO KICK OUT THE MURDERERS. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT CRIME, I DO HAVE ONE PRETTY EASY STAT TO POINT TO.

41:17SO FAR THIS YEAR IN MINNESOTA, ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS HAVE KILLED ZERO PEOPLE. THE ICE AGENTS HAVE KILLED TWO. TWO AMERICAN CITIZENS HAVE BEEN KILLED BY ICE, ZERO BY ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. KICK OUT ICE OR BRING IN ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. OKAY. KICK OUT THE MURDERERS, I WOULD SAY. I WANT TO KICK OUT THE MURDERERS. NO, NO, I WANT TO KICK OUT THE MURDERERS.

41:43THE GUY THAT KILLED LAKEN REILEY GET THE HELL OUT. BY THE WAY, THE GUY THAT KILLED ALEX PRATTY, YOU GET THE FUCK TO PRISON AS WELL. HOW ABOUT THAT? WE GET RID OF ALL THE KILLERS. IF HE'S UNJUSTIFIED IN HIS US OF FLOORS, HE'S GOING TO PRISON. LET ME OFF, BRANDON. Let me ask Brandon. Look at what Jacob Fry has done in Minneapolis. If I can say one thing. Hang on, please.

42:04Piers Morgan:Hang on, please. Guys, let me try and moderate the panel, please. Look at the objective criteria, not the hysterics. Let me moderate the panel. I gave you a stat. Brandon, do you think there's a lot of hypocrisy, given that Obama deported 3 million people and was very strong in his rhetoric, as indeed Bill and Hillary Clinton were? The clips are everywhere, right? They all basically agree about the problem. I'm for that, Piers. This is the question about hypocrisy. This is the question about killing American citizens. I literally lost my mind when I went back and listened to what Barack Obama said.

42:36What Barack Obama said about not coming to America, you would go to the back of the line. You didn't do it the right way. We're going to catch you, and we're going to kick you out of our country. Everybody should be in lockstep with that. If you came here legally, we love you. But they are coming here legally. Liam Ramos, a five-year-old boy, a five-year-old boy who was wearing a Spider-Man backpack, a bunny hat, his father was here legally. He was going through the process. So there's always an excuse. You'll always complain. He was here. He was going through the process. He was the exact type of person.

43:16Guys, turn on the total funds.

43:16Piers Morgan:Please. Let him talk. He was the exact, Liam Ramos' father, the five-year-old child. Then I'm going to destroy him. Stop talking for a second. All right, go. Shut up. A five-year-old boy. Right, please. A five-year-old boy was used as bait. Brian, Brian, Brian, make your point about the five-year-old boy, then Brandon, you respond. Liam Ramos, a five-year-old boy, wearing a bunny hat and a Spider-Man backpack, used his bait to get his father to come outside. He was here legally going through the legal process. the exact thing that, Brandon, you're claiming you wanted to see, and yet he's now in the process of deportation.

43:53So the goalposts will always move. You'll claim that this is all about wanting people to go through the proper process, but then you've got people who are going through the proper process, and yet ICE still creates deportation porn out of their processes and tries to get them out of the country anyway. Okay, are you done? Okay, Brandon? Okay, listen, I want people to be very clear about this. You can come through the country without going through a port of entry. You're illegally in this country. You can come through a port of entry and your asylum claim gets denied, and you're also illegally in this country.

44:23So two things can be true at the same time. They did not use a 5-year-old to lure this guy. They already had an arrest warrant for him. He got arrested. He fled from them, leaving his child behind. They had to take the child into some type of custody for his safety. The family refused to take the kid into the house. They refused to take the kid back from the facility. So ICE had no choice but to have this kid in a safe environment because his dad did not care enough about him to take care of him. You guys are using a five-year-old for your immigration porn. It is not true that they lured that man.

44:58Listen, why can't we all on this panel say legal immigration is good? If you come here illegally, you have broken the law and you have to be deported. Why are we against deportation of illegal immigrants? The two people in the middle make sense. Y 'all don't have a solution to it. Pierce, I'd like to get in here real quick on the asylum issue. I'm for it. Deport, start with the worst of the worst. Then why not encourage Minnesota to cooperate with ICE? Because ICE isn't going after illegal immigrants. How hard do I have to say this? I agree with, could I finish? I can answer your question if you want.

45:37THE MOST PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO LEAVE THE ILLEGALS IN AND DEPORT THE LEGAL ONES. WELL, WHY NOT HAVE MINNESOTA GIVE UP THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS THAT ARE IN THEIR JAILS? WHY AREN'T YOU IN FAVOR OF THAT? MAYBE YOU ARE IN FAVOR OF THAT. I DON'T KNOW. THEY ARE DOING THAT. THE MINNESOTA DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTION IS WORKING WITH THE CRIME. THAT IS A SLIGHT OF HAND. THAT IS NOT, THAT IS FACTUALLY UNTRUE. YOU CAN SPAZ OUT OR DO WHATEVER YOU DO, BUT THAT'S NOT TRUE. THE JAILS ARE NOT TURNING PEOPLE THE PEOPLE ARE ARRESTED. THE PRISON SYSTEM IS. THE PRISON SYSTEM IS. THE PRISON SYSTEM IS. THE SLEIGHT OF HAND TIM WALT IS USING THERE.

46:12THE JAILS ARE NOT. THAT IS FACTUALLY TRUE. THEY WOULD ADMIT IT. TIM WALT IS DELIVERLY A STAFF. YOU CAN SPAZ OUT AND DO YOUR LITTLE CHECK. I'M TRYING TO REPLY. GO AHEAD AND REPLY, TIM. I AM WITH YOU. criminal aliens should be handed over to federal ICE agents or federal CPD. I'm with you on that. Excuse me, could you let me finish? And if you have a critique about the way that Hennepin County and Minneapolis is handling that, that is a fair critique. And that is fine. And we could talk about that policy and what the right policy is. I'm also for deporting people that came here LEGALLY. WHAT ICE IS DOING IN MINNEAPOLIS IS FAR BEYOND THAT REMIT.

47:01THEY ARE GOING AFTER PEOPLE THAT HAVE ASYLUM CLAIMS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN ADJUDICATED. THEY ARE GOING AFTER PROTESTERS. THEY ARE GOING AFTER AMERICAN CITIZENS. THEY HAVE JAILED AMERICAN CITIZENS. THEY ARE GOING INTO NEIGHBORHOODS. THEY ARE BULLYING PEOPLE. THEY ARE PUSHING PEOPLE AND THEY ARE MURDERING PEOPLE. SO IF YOUR ISSUE IS, LET'S DEAL WITH HENNEPED COUNTY PRISONS AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO WORK BETTER WITH THEM, THEN THAT'S FINE. YOU DON'T NEED TO MURDER AMERICAN CITIZENS TO ACHIEVE THAT GOAL. SO WE CAN AGREE ON THAT. I WANT YOU TO AGREE. THE AMERICAN CITIZENS SHOULD BE SHOT DEAD. LET ME BRING IN BRANDON.

47:34Piers Morgan:LET ME BRING IN BRANDON. I WANT TO BRING IN JUST AN UPDATE FROM POLY MARKET ABOUT CHRISTINE. IT'S QUITE INTERESTING. WE'RE FOLLOWING THE PREDICTION MARKETS ON THE SUBJECT OF WHO WILL BE THE FIRST TO LEAVE TRUMP'S CABINET. you know, almost uniquely, he's a year in and hasn't fired anyone from his cabinet yet. Polymarket has a one and a half million dollar market open. A lot of activity as we speak. Christy Noem is at 39 percent to be that first member of Trump's cabinet to be fired. She was just 13 percent before the two deaths in Minneapolis. I mean, Brandon, do you think she's on the way out?

48:10Piers Morgan:Is she going to be the first casualty of Trump's cabinet? I don't know. I think Trump is very loyal to the people that are in his cabinet right now. That's why he hasn't fired anybody so far. But I do think that she's becoming incredibly unpopular on the Republican side. Now, I don't necessarily agree or disagree with it. I don't pay attention to what she's saying. I don't care unless people are getting arrested and they're doing their job. But I do believe if she's not doing what she's supposed to be doing, if she's doing things illegitimately and is not working on behalf of the country, get her sorry self out of there.

48:39And I believe that with anybody that's in the cabinet. I don't owe no loyalty to none of y 'all. If you don't do your job, you need to get fired. And so if there's a fair evaluation of Kristi Noem and what she's doing and not doing, and she's not doing what's right for the American people, and she's committing a fraudulent behavior, fire her. I think we all understand it. Can I give you the Border Patrol response real quick? Law enforcement and Border Patrol connection, because I worked in law enforcement in Tucson, which is a border state, and we work well with Border Patrol and ICE. And there's a big difference when you arrest somebody and they are illegally in this country.

49:16Now, local law enforcement do not have jurisdiction to arrest them for their federal crimes. But we do take them to the jail and we put them on what we call an ICE hold. Therefore, they cannot leave the jail facility even when they're done serving for their city crime or their state crime. the ICE agents will come and verify them and take them. That keeps the community way safer because ICE does not have to go into the community. When you force ICE to go into the community and then you have idiots harassing them, doxing them, throwing stuff at them, blockading their vehicles, you create an unduly risk.

49:53This is why ICE is patrolled or even Border Patrol and their assistance with ICE around the entire country. and you don't see people getting shot and hardly anywhere else. You would say 99.9 % of the shootings are in Minnesota. Zero is the goal. What? Yeah, dude, you do see people getting harassed in other places, actually, not just Minnesota. Minnesota's just the only place they've murdered anyone so far. But they do harass people. They jailed citizens in California. They shot people in Chicago. Give me the murder numbers. Give me the people who have been murdered by ICE. and then you tell me where they were murdered this year where there have been two people murdered by ice in minneapolis so far and then one city renee good and that and then they shot a guy in chicago a girl in chicago agent no renee hit an ice agent with her car she got shot this guy came and confronted and physically assaulted and had okay i'm sorry i can't do any more of this like apology you don't have to do anything you can't do whatever you want man Let's do a polymarket if this guy goes to jail for shooting Freddie.

50:59Let's do a polymarket. What you're doing is shameful. You should be ashamed of yourself. You are a wuss. You don't understand a lot. Don't get mad at me. I actually think it's pretty instructive. I'm not mad. You should repent. You don't understand the law. You don't understand the law. You don't understand the law. I think what Brandon is doing is actually pretty instructive. Because the reality is that everybody saw the video. Like 85 % of Americans saw this video. It doesn't matter. You don't understand the law. Brandon, just chill out for a second. according to what they're gonna be judged by.

51:25Just control yourself. Brandon, try to control yourself. No, how about you listen? Try to control yourself. Try, try. Just try like two seconds to not talk. Well, give me the law, give me the law that he's gonna be prosecuted under. Brandon, Brandon, two seconds, man. Give me the law that he's gonna be prosecuted under. This isn't a good, this isn't a good testament for how, for how law enforcement officials are able to control themselves. Two seconds without talking. No, no, it's not a good testament how - The reality is the vast majority of Americans - The vast majority of Americans have - No, non-sinsiccals, wusses like you don't know the law.

51:50Brandon, just shut up for like two seconds. Where's the law? The vast majority of Americans saw this video. We know what we saw with our own eyes. Even conservatives, even independents know that what ICE was doing was completely unjustified. That he was holding his cell phone and was bombarded by six grown ass men who shot him dead. And the fact that you're standing up here, Brandon, just shut the fuck up for two seconds. The fact that you can sit up here and claim - Is that going to work on this show? You talking tough, it's going to work with me, buddy. Give me the law. What are you going to do?

52:19Shoot him ten times? Because this whole time you're cosplaying as a tough guy while you bootlick for six grown-ass men who jumped on a nurse and shot him dead. This is not the tough position. You are defending. Being a bootlicker is not a tough position, my dude. Being a bootlicker for a bunch of grown-ass men who killed a nurse who was helping a woman is not the tough position that you think it is. Gentlemen, gentlemen, can I just say, gentlemen, gentlemen, I had hip surgery a week ago.

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