In short
Republican Congressman Tim Burchett argues the U.S. should disclose UFO/UAP records, claims government censorship and cover-ups, and discusses alleged underwater alien bases, death threats, and “sinister” implications.
Guest backgrounds
Tim Burchett is a member of the House Oversight Committee. He says he’s been briefed by government officials and pilots; he’s also a Christian and cites biblical imagery (Ezekiel’s “wheel within a wheel”) as context. He reports receiving death threats and spending money on security.
Key claims
Disclosure/transparency are overdue; pilots risk reputations to report sightings; federal releases will likely be heavily redacted; there are multiple UAP types (classic saucers, “plasma,” wedge-shaped). He alleges underwater bases off U.S. coasts and claims scientists have “disappeared or died mysteriously.”
Notable examples
A Navy friend described a circular, silent craft over a ship and later debriefs with threats. Burchett cites reports of UAPs over nuclear facilities causing shutdowns, and sonar tracking of objects over 200 mph. He also mentions Jimmy Carter’s alleged UFO sighting and President Trump’s push to release UFO files.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOThe Call for Disclosure
0:45 to 2:33
Tim Burchett discusses the necessity of releasing UFO-related government files.
“The announcement followed comments by former President Obama, whose admission that aliens are real was described by Trump as a leak of classified information.”
Belief in Aliens and Personal Accounts
2:33 to 4:53
Burchett shares his belief in aliens and discusses firsthand accounts from military personnel.
“I'm on the forgiving end of the Christian spectrum.”
Questioning the Evidence
4:53 to 7:42
An exploration of the evidence for UFOs and the credibility of military testimonies.
“And if they are, then I guess I haven't.”
Underwater Bases and Government Cover-ups
7:42 to 10:40
Burchett discusses claims about underwater alien bases and government responses to sightings.
“briefed on some stuff that didn't look anything like that.”
Implications of Disclosure
10:40 to 13:20
The potential consequences of releasing information about UFOs and alien encounters.
“And for whatever reason, the intelligence community will will censor it.”
UFO Sightings and Public Beliefs
14:02 to 16:00
Explore the prevalence of UFO sightings and public perception of extraterrestrial life.
“And yet several high ranking members have come to me and stated that they had seen something.”
Concerns About Safety and Threats
16:00 to 17:51
Discuss the congressman's experiences with death threats and the implications of speaking out.
“Have you and there are people clearly you believe who don't want this information out there.”
Media Responsibility and Investigating Disappearances
17:51 to 18:38
Address the media's role in questioning the mysterious disappearances of scientists.
“I was going to ask you about that, but you preempted it.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Piers Morgan:I recently directed the Secretary of War to begin releasing government files relating to UFOs and unexplained aerial phenomena. We've seen too much. I've seen too much. So I think it's time that they come clean. I don't know if it's about little green men are flying saucers, Mr. Morgan, but I do think it's about disclosure. It's about transparency. Is the world, is America, is the wider world ready for the stuff that you've seen and heard? It's not the government's job to decide what I can and cannot handle. They look down upon people like me and they joke about it and they laugh about it behind my back.
0:34But I've got a big mouth. I'm sick of the American public being lied to about a lot of issues. If that makes me a target, so be it.
0:42Piers Morgan:Back in February, President Trump ordered War Secretary Pete Hegseth to prepare the release of the UFO files. The announcement followed comments by former President Obama, whose admission that aliens are real was described by Trump as a leak of classified information. It's fair to say that Hegseth and the War Department have been a bit tied up recently, but the president now says the process is well underway and the first wave of documents will be released very soon. Do you remember I recently directed the Secretary of War? How good is Pete Hexap doing, by the way?
1:16Piers Morgan:To begin releasing government files relating to UFOs and unexplained aerial phenomena. And I figured this was a good crowd because I know you're really into that. I don't know who I am. So I'm pleased to report today, I thought I'd save it for this crowd because you're a little bit out there, you know, a little bit, that this process is well underway and we've found many very interesting documents, I must say, and the first releases will begin very, very soon. So you can go out and see if that phenomena is correct. You'll figure it out. Let me know. Well, thousands of documents and images will reveal intelligence on unexplained aerial phenomena, or UAPs, as they're now known.
2:02Piers Morgan:Successive governments have kept the file secret due to concerns over how the public would handle apparent evidence of superior alien life. Republican Congressman Tim Burchett sits on the House Oversight Committee. He says the public can handle the truth. He's also made headlines by describing military briefings on underwater alien bases. and he joins me now. Congressman, thank you very much indeed for joining me on Uncensored. Thank you all for having me. It's a real pleasure to be with you, Mr Morgan. Well, let me start with a very direct question. Do you believe aliens exist? Yes, sir, I do.
2:37Yes, sir, I do. I'm a Christian and it doesn't... I'm on the forgiving end of the Christian spectrum. I'm not here to proselytise or save your soul, but I just tell you that for background. around Genesis 1, chapter 1, God created the heavens and the earth. You look at the book of Ezekiel. Ezekiel saw the wheel, and it described a wheel within a wheel with some sort of landing gear that came down from it. You know, in a wheel, back in biblical times, the most advanced technological machinery they had was a wheel. So that's what they were describing as close as they could describe it. We've seen too much.
3:16I've seen too much. Not myself personally, but when I've been briefed by government officials, video, pictures, some of the best trained pilots in the world have described having close collisions with some sort of aircraft or apparatus. And so I think it's time that they come clean. I don't know if it's about little green men are flying saucers, Mr. Morgan, but I do think it's about disclosure. sure it's about transparency and you as a member of the media should be all for that regardless. I just want to know what we're spending tens of millions of dollars on.
3:55Piers Morgan:Yeah, listen, let me be clear. I'm of the view we should be as transparent as possible about these things. I find it impossible to think that we are the only creatures that exist in the universe. Makes no sense to me whatsoever. We're a tiny pinprick out there. There are gazillion galaxies, this massive universe. Of course there's other stuff out there, is my instinctive feeling. But as a journalist, I do like to rely on cold, hard facts. So I guess the more difficult question for you is, you've seen and heard about what we would describe as phenomena, I guess, but it's unexplained phenomena. Have you ever seen any cold, hard, irrefutable factual evidence to support alien life?
4:46Well, unless dozens of federal authorities are lying to me and pilots are lying to me, I get in the pictures and videos and things they've shown me are complete fabrications. And if they are, then I guess I haven't. But have I seen a craft or anything fly over me that was unidentifiable. No, sir, I have not personally. No, but I do believe I have to question why a pilot, some of the best in the world, would risk their reputations coming forth and telling me this stuff. And the descriptions they gave were very vivid and very similar to what civilians and people that have somebody even I know back 40 or 50 years ago had seen.
5:35And the descriptions were almost identical.
5:42Piers Morgan:So what were they? What are you specifically referring to there? I had a friend of mine who was in the Navy, and I was on one of these TV shows that you've been on multiple times. You know, it's funny, when they film you, they'll film you sometimes for 15 or 20 minutes, and then they'll use it for seven dadgum episodes. So I'm just thinking I'm on one episode. And, you know, I was in Nashville, Tennessee, of all places. I was at a dinner and a guy used to be in the legislature in Nashville, but he's no longer in Nashville, of course, because that's just where the state capital is. He called me and I remember he picked up the phone.
6:17He said, Timbo, he just said, I saw you just on this alien show. And I thought, you know, he was going to make some joke to me about it. And he said, when I was in the Navy, and he described a situation where they were on the deck of a ship, and this craft flew over them, and it took off without any noise or anything, any disturbance around them. And he described it as something, I mean, he's a country boy, and I'm more or less a country boy, described it as something about two city blocks. And he said it was circular in shape. And then he said when they went back to port, these two men came on the boat in suits and suitcases or briefcases and debriefed them and told them that if they talked about that, they'd be busting rocks for the rest of their life if they were lucky.
7:12And none of them talked about it. I mean, that's just back when people did that. Nobody was looking for a book deal or the Internet wasn't around for them to get clicks on it. And then when I came out, I started talking about all this to folks. I'd get calls from people, and I got a call from a former Air Force officer who described eerily something of the same shape, the same color, the portals that were in it. And, you know, it just, and then just this last week, I was in a skiff, briefed on some stuff that didn't look anything like that. There's like three or four different groups that you see.
7:53There's the classic saucers. There's something that you and I maybe or the scientific community would describe as plasma. And then there's some of this other stuff that's unknown out there or wedge-shaped things. So there's several different varieties that have been spotted throughout recent history. and these people had no connection with each other. Again, you know, our military, I don't know if you know this or not, sir, but if they make a sighting like this, you know, they're pulled off the line and they will get a psych evaluation. They will literally get a blemish on their records. So it's not encouraged.
8:32And again, you know, and when I have some little punk with a man bun who's an unelected bureaucrat telling me and a bunch of military people that the president is on a need-to-know basis, I think that tells you we've got a real problem within our government, and it's worldwide, I feel like. This is something that's being held back for whatever reason. For whatever reason. I just want the answers. I just want to know. I know that you've been very vocal
9:02Piers Morgan:that you think there's been a sort of big cover-up by people at the Pentagon, successive governments, and so on. President Trump is clearly teeing us up for the release of all sorts of information, documents, images, and so on. Do you have any knowledge of what we're going to be seeing and when we will see it? Now, I talked to the president, had a pretty lengthy conversation, and this was part of that conversation that I would like to just see the disclosure. My problem with that is, President Trump, he's my friend, is that he just doesn't know the questions to ask and doesn't know if the stuff they're giving him is stuff that we've already seen before.
9:39It's just a reiteration of things. I mean, there's documented cases of these things flying over nuclear facilities, and the nuclear facility has a complete shutdown. And then when we ask a government official about that, at least when I did, I was told, we don't have any data points on that. Now, what the heck does that mean? It's a documented case. You can research it. You can read about it in several different places. But I worry about that because you remember when it first came out and really that a lot of people were screaming and yelling about it. But when it first came out was what I think really set it off was I was standing in Washington.
10:19I was going somewhere in TMZ, a reporter for TMZ, had a mic, had a camera on me and said, what do you think about this new report that's coming out? And I said, it'll look like somebody shot it with a 12 gauge. It'll be it'll just be redacted points. I said, and it's not going to come out this week. It'll come out weeks later because what happens is they issue the report and it probably has a lot of truth in it. And for whatever reason, the intelligence community will will censor it. And then that's exactly what happened. It was just a blacked out, full of nothingness and had a few sentences in there that were legible.
10:54And that's what happens almost every time. And I'm afraid that's what's going to happen with this. I have no faith in our federal government will release any of this stuff.
11:04Piers Morgan:You've said in September last year that you think aliens could be in five or six underwater bases off US coast, which is an extraordinary claim. Do you have any evidence to support that? Well, I haven't been in those. I haven't been underwater. But yeah, I talked to a man who was an admiral in the United States Navy, and he described those areas. And my point on this is this. There's five deep water areas. We have a lot of sightings in the air over that. We have cases where something big as a football field has been traced on our sonar that went over 200 miles an hour. And, you know, it's happened more than once.
11:49And, again, we know more about the surface of the moon than we do these deep water areas. It just seems to me the probability of something traveling light years is beyond my realm of comprehension. I know quantum physics says otherwise. But again, I didn't take that at Bearden Junior High School growing up. So I'm not really sure about that. But it would just seem to me if something was here, that's how it would do it. And is it possible? Is it the truth? I don't know. I just stated that that is something that's been discussed more than once and it's been discussed at some very high levels.
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13:00Piers Morgan:You've been quite apocalyptic in some of the comments you've made about what would happen if all the stuff that you've seen and heard gets released. You said the country would come unglued if they would have heard all that I heard. You've been briefed by just about every alphabet agency there is. You also said the information could set the earth on fire. Scary stuff. I mean, is the world, is America, is the wider world ready for the stuff that you've seen and heard? Or is it best we just don't know about it? They need to be. And the quote about setting it on fire was a little taken out of context, but that's OK.
13:40I don't care. Yeah, I think we should know about it. It's not the government's job to decide what I can and cannot handle. That's an arrogance that these people have. And they look down upon people like me and they joke about it and they laugh about it behind my back. Members of Congress will say smart aleck stuff to me. And yet several high ranking members have come to me and stated that they had seen something. And either one was in the military, was watch on their, I believe it was their ship they were on, night watch and spotted some stuff. Heck, Jimmy Carter, former president of the United States, claims he saw a UFO.
14:21So I think I'm in pretty good footing. And over half the population, they've done polls, it's over 55 percent, believes that something else is out there. And as you stated, I mean, we are one grain of sand on a billion beaches. And so I think but the some of the stuff I've heard is pretty troubling. It's very troubling to think that we we just deny their existence. And then we have aircraft, half a billion dollar aircraft with some highly trained professionals on it that are put into harm's way. And we've had to scrub missions before because something's out there and that they the Pentagon claims that they have no knowledge of it.
15:06And it's not going to be ours, sir. because if it was ours, we wouldn't risk those lives. And we value life. I think it's pretty apparent that President Trump spent untold millions of dollars to rescue that pilot, which he should because, dadgummit, we value life. And it's very important to us. So do I think it's China? I'm always asked, don't you think it's China or Russia? Well, Russia wouldn't be bogged down in Ukraine if they were there. And China would have owned the world. I'm not so sure they don't now. But because they're great, it's some American politicians. But I do think that if they had this knowledge and technology, the world would look like a completely different place.
15:47And I don't again, I don't think it's ours because we're not we're not going to risk our our fighting men and women by putting these things out there so close to them.
15:59Piers Morgan:Finally, Congressman, you obviously have a lot of information which could be very explosive. Have you and there are people clearly you believe who don't want this information out there. Do you ever fear for your safety? Have you had any threats telling you to shut up? Well, I constantly have death threats on my life, sir. I've been I've been warned many times about doing certain events, parades, things like that. I'm not sure if it's about this issue or just that I've got a big mouth and that I'm not I don't filter it. I'm sick of the American public being lied to about a lot of issues. And I guess if that makes me a target, so be it.
16:39But yeah, when I go out, when I'm at events that's announced I'm going to be there, I have to have security there. And I've spent tens of thousands of dollars on my farm for security out here. We know when somebody gets out here on my acreage and we do take precautions. But on this issue, I don't know. I worry about it when you see 10 or 11 people that are scientists that just disappear or die mysteriously, leaving their house without any identification. There's something going on there. I think the message is being sent. And I've described it as, you know, if you're in the mob and you own a nice restaurant, you're afraid your chef's giving out the secret recipes to the competition.
17:32Do you take him out? Probably not. You might rough up a few busboys or something, just kind of send the message. But not that any of these people that disappeared would be busboys. But I think y 'all in the media need to start paying attention to that and start asking questions and quit taking the government's side on this thing about what's going on in this country.
17:55Piers Morgan:Well, it's interesting. I was going to ask you about that, but you preempted it. President Trump says the U.S. is investigating the mystery disappearance of 10 prominent scientists, including some who worked on sensitive space and defence matters. They say all 10 are missing or dead. It's going to be fascinating. I agree with you. You should certainly have the media asking difficult questions about it because it does seem on the face of it very odd, very hard to explain and potentially very sinister. So I agree with you. I think the media should be asking questions about it and we'll see where those questions lead as we will see where these files when they get released lead in terms of public understanding of UFOs.
18:37Piers Morgan:But for now, Congressman, I'll leave it there. And thank you very much indeed for joining me. Thanks, sir. I'm a big fan of yours. And just for the record, I collect old British motorcycles. I've got a bunch of old Bonnevilles. I've got a BSA. Oh, yeah. I love British motorcycles. I love the sound. And I love getting off my bike, have a little oil underneath it, and smell like gasoline and a little exhaust. So I've got a 64 Bonneville, a 67, let's see, a 72 Bonneville. I've got a couple others. But I've got my favorite bike is my 1972 BSA. That was the last year they made it. And I've been 100 miles an hour on that motorcycle and brought it home in a wash tub.
19:19But I won't do that anymore. I won't be riding 100 miles an hour. But anyway, it's just beautiful motorcycles. And I'm glad y 'all are back in the motorcycle game.
19:30Piers Morgan:Yeah, well, we're great engineers at our hearts, the Brits. But that's good to hear. Thank you very much indeed, Congressman Birch. I appreciate it. Thank you, Mr Morgan.
20:08Thank you.
From the publisher
Back in February, President Trump ordered War Secretary Pete Hegseth to prepare the release of what he called “the UFO Files.” The move followed comments by former President Obama, whose remarks that “aliens are real” were described by Trump as a leak of classified information.
Now, after months of delays, the administration says the process is underway—and the first wave of documents could be released very soon.
Why have these files been kept hidden for so long? Officials have historically cited concerns about public reaction to potential evidence of extraterrestrial life. But some lawmakers argue the public is ready.
Republican Congressman Tim Burchett, a member of the House Oversight Committee, has been pushing for transparency. He’s made headlines with claims about classified briefings, including allegations of underwater alien bases and joins Piers Morgan to discuss what might be coming next.
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