"Netanyahu CONNED Trump!" Dave Smith Slams US-Iran War & Israel Ties | Feat. Bill O'Reilly

25:05years and somehow him and the massad chief were able to convince donald trump of this ridiculous notion that it was a it was a definite it was a slam dunk that you could get a regime change through the sky and that the regime he wasn't convinced of that you didn't even read the new york times article that's just flat out false like you're just no you didn't read it they yeah apparently not because it made very clear that the americans did not credit uh Netanyahu and Mossad's statements about regime change. He did it anyway and called for the people to rise up. He wasn't manipulating this by Netanyahu.

25:39He called for the people to rise up. Listen, I mean, literally the State Department themselves just admitted we fought this war for the Israelis. This is the most obvious. I just can't even believe you deny this.

25:51Piers Morgan:I think what is obvious is it came out of Marco Rubio's mouth that that was what had happened. He couldn't have been clearer until he got told that he had to reverse Fahrenheit. three weeks ago. Hey, and this is quite the last time. We did. We did. Let me bring... I want to bring Buckley back in, but I want to just, first of all, first of all, Buckley, before I come to you, I just want to ask Dave Smith about something that Mark Levin has said, because the reason I got you three guys on was because you all have a sort of different perspective about Trump, the MAGA, conservative right, and so on.

26:25Piers Morgan:And Mark Levin's been leading the charge, obviously, for Trump and Iran and so on. And he's just called you out, Dave, personally, along with Tucker. So I'm calling out Tucker Carlson, Dave Smith, Nick Fuentes and the other podcast reprobates and drawing a clear line between strong political commentary and what I see as reckless rhetoric. You can be aggressive. You can be passionate. When commentary fuels distortion, extremism or confusion, it has real consequences. This is about responsibility in media, accountability in messaging and protecting the integrity of real debate in America. Just before I go to Buckley, what is your response to Mark Levine?

27:02I mean, Pierce, he literally goes off on this whole thing about how like, hey, you can be pointed, but you got to be responsible about what you say. The video opens with him calling us the woke Reich. The video opens with him calling us Nazis. As he, in the same episode, Pierce, advocates for tech censorship because we're all a bunch of Nazis. He's calling us woke and saying that our rhetoric is too far. I don't know. Honestly, I've as somebody who's read a lot of neoconservatives and war hawks over the years and as someone who clearly is like opposes them politically. I and there's been some pretty dumb arguments advanced by neocons before.

27:41None of them have ever gone full Mark Levin. It's he is he has become a complete clown, like a caricature of himself. If he wants to call out, he said he starts by going, I'm calling out Dave Smith and Tucker Carlson and Nick Fuentes. How about like, come have a conversation with one of us. Let's discuss these issues. The bottom line is that Mark Levin is getting destroyed in the marketplace of ideas. And so now he refuses to debate anyone. Tucker has made the invite to him. He admitted this. Tucker texted him, reached out. Hey, it'd be good to lower the temperature. Why don't we have a real conversation here?

28:15We can talk about our disagreements. I've offered many times, but I'm sure Fuentes would too. You know, you want to just sit here and smear people. And then when you're losing the argument, call for censorship. I'm sorry, I'm advocating for free speech and against a war, Pierce. That was a lot like the Nazis, right? That makes me a Nazi for not wanting to fight a war of aggression and not wanting censorship. Like how upside down is this whole world where you could accuse someone else of being a fascist as you support the most fascistic policies that are available to you every opportunity?

28:50Piers Morgan:Yeah, and also I think, look, with all due respect, well, Buckley, I'll come to you. I mean, all due respect to Mark Levin. I mean, his own rhetoric can be highly incendiary, as he knows. Buckley, in your chat with Tucker, you talked about what you saw as the erosion of traditional conservative values in favour of MAGA populism. Do you think we're seeing the beginning of a move back to a more traditional conservatism? And if so, who would spearhead that in the next general election? Could it be your brother, for example? I put it to him directly and he kind of gave a slightly obtuse response. And I wouldn't ask you to speak for him, but do you think he could, as his brother, do you think he could be the person that can perhaps steer the conservative right to a different place?

29:41Well, I think he articulates it well and consistently and compellingly. But before we talk about that, can I just say, can we just lay to rest all the lying about how we got into this war and who influenced us? Please, Will. Yes, we all read the New York Times piece, but we all saw Marco Rubio actually say on camera that we did it as a response because Israel was going to do it. That was the reason for the time. Everybody lied about it. Everybody has lied about it subsequently. And then the general counsel or a legal counsel at the State Department published a memo that declared that unequivocally.

30:18So it's on record. I think we should probably stop lying about it now. Again, that was about the timing. And moreover, like, it's the Gulf allies who want this, too, in particular. That's like, if any of you think the biggest driver of this, honestly, MBS and MBZ, both of whom realize that if we leave and if we aren't willing to stand up to Iran, then they're going to be left at the mercy of the Iranians. And they're incredibly important allies. Netanyahu's very important to us too in this front, but so are these other guys. There's a reason President Trump is constantly doing all this diplomacy with Arab countries and a reason they're coming over to our side.

30:52Again, remember, the UAE just left OPEC, groundbreaking moment, really completely breaking the sort of resistance axis using oil against us. This is yet another example of how things I think, you know, you guys are blackpilling so much about the Straits of Hormuz and oil, like a remarkable event. That means the UAE can massively expand its own oil production. So that was always a remarkable of these things that President Trump is his own man. He's not some idiot. That New York Times article demonstrated it. And he went to war because he believed it was necessary to do this because left unmolested Iran would endlessly continue their nuclear pursuit.

31:26And it didn't matter how many demonstrations of like military capability. Hang on. Hang on.

31:33Piers Morgan:Don't all talk at once, please. I'll come back to you. Buckley, I'll come back to you. I mean, the point I would make to that, Will, is that may well be true. OK, I think he is his own man and he obviously felt the moment was right. However, I think that Israel, through Netanyahu in the White House situation room and with the head of Mossad joining them remotely, painted a scenario to President Trump that if they took out the Ayatollah and they had this opportunity to do so and the top leadership, that the IRGC would collapse from within, the people would rise up, there would be regime change and everyone would be far too distracted to worry about the Strait of Hormuz.

32:11Piers Morgan:None of the rest of it happened. So it may well be that Donald Trump, for the best of intentions, having talked about this for many decades, genuinely felt this was a chance for all that to happen because the Israelis, through their intelligence, the Mossad, the finest intelligence agency in the world, by their own statements, that they painted a picture to him which he felt would happen and it simply hasn't materialized. And I think that may well be the reality. Buckley, just coming back to my point about where this all leaves the conservative right, because it is fascinating to watch the American conservative right kind of eat itself alive a bit, where you've got your brother, you've got Megyn Kelly or Candace Owens, you've got all these people lining up to attack a Republican president over going to war against Iran.

33:01Piers Morgan:And you've got people like Mark Levin and others on the other side staunchly supporting him. There's a real schism now in the conservative right. How does this play out, do you think? Well, I think you define it well when those are the borders. And on the one side, you've got people who were stalwart, not fans of Donald Trump, but fans of his program that he articulated so well and strongly and in the face of just overwhelming and murderous opposition over the past decade. And then you've got people, sham frauds like Mark Levin and others, Ben Shapiro, who didn't support Trump, didn't support the populist agenda, didn't support the program, were disdainful of him and the America first ideals.

33:46So yeah, I think in the few, I would say there are a lot of people who are interested in having a Republican party or at least a party that gets back to the principles that say, let's operate on behalf of America and Americans first and foremost. Pretty easy to do, pretty easy to make America great again if you stick to those principles. It's a shame that Donald Trump hasn't. I just want to say two other things. I disagree that Donald Trump wanted to do this, not only because he articulated it so many times and so aggressively and pushed back against the John Boltons and others during the first term.

34:24But I'm certain that right up until the moment that we attacked Iran in this non-war war that we're involved in, he didn't want to. He was resistant to it. He understood that Americans were not on board. He understood Americans and his voters were absolutely opposed to it. And he understood that not only would it be bad for us and American power, he understood it would be bad for our allies, but more importantly, for his own political agenda. You're suggesting about Donald Trump is blackmailed. Just say it. You don't have to like. Those are your words. Well, I'm not suggesting that he's being blackmailed.

34:57What are you saying? Or are you just making big accusations and insinuations? He's obviously being pressured. We don't have to. We don't have to speculate where that pressure is coming from. because we were just talking about... Just say what you mean. Stop being a coward. Say what you mean. Stop being a coward. Don't interrupt me. I'm not being a coward. He was pressured by Israel and others around him on behalf of Israel. Israel... And so he couldn't say no to them? Why not? I beg your pardon? Why couldn't he say no to them? What's your theory? That's... You can speculate about the kind of pressure he's been under.

35:28How about you speculate? You're the one who's proffering the theory. It's not a theory. It's fact. It's already been said. Oh, that he's being... That he's being blackmailed that he couldn't say no to them. Well, Will, it seems, Will, you're asking him to speculate and then criticizing him for speculating. I mean, like, I don't know. My point is that it's nonsense. He's the president of the United States and a billionaire real estate magnate. This is just Russiagate recircled. The idea that you guys pretending to be such great models of Republicans, rehashing the Democratic playbook of 2016, it's just like so telling.

35:59Guess what? I don't know. People who undermined America for, you know, the greater argument. Trump's first term. Israel's just taking the place of Russia, but it's a 10-year-old theory. Can I just say this? All right, don't all talk at once.

36:17Piers Morgan:Don't all talk at once, please. Let me bring in Dave Smith. I just want to say, Dave Smith, on this one point about what happens next. So Polymarket have the current prediction odds of J.D. Vats being the next leader of the Republicans as the nominee, 39 percent. Marco Rubio at 22 percent. Tucker Carlson is currently a third place on 6 percent. I heard Scott Galloway in his podcast yesterday painting a picture where he believes that Tucker is absolutely preparing to run for president and that with his enormous online following, plus his mainstream media following from when he was the number one rated guy at Fox and so on, and his sort of more traditional Christian conservative right credentials and the fact that he, you know, many people think he's more aligned to what Trump promised to be but hasn't turned out to be, that actually Tucker might end up being the nominee.

37:13Piers Morgan:Could you see that happening? Oh, I mean, well, if you're asking on inside information to Tucker, I mean, I am the closest to him on the panel. I would say that I don't particularly, I don't I don't think Tucker's gonna run is the impression I got I would love that if he did he would have my full support no question about that I think that there is this um this delusional attempt which I I'm not sure you never know what Donald Trump because he says everything you don't know exactly what's in his head but he has mentioned like at least four times that CNN poll that had him at a hundred percent of MAGA Republicans or something like that but the reality is, as you already mentioned, Pierce, he is, look, Donald Trump is about as popular as George W.

38:00Bush was after two disastrous wars and destroying the economy. He is conducting a war of choice that is the most unpopular war in American history. And again, Pierce, to my point, we haven't really seen what happens with this now. Now, I really think the best case scenario is that Donald Trump just stops. He does just let someone else figure out how to open up this straight. We end the blockade. We come home. We quit doing it. And we tell Israel we're not going to support them doing any more of it either. I think that's the best case scenario. But even if that happens, I still think Donald Trump is going to go even further down in the poll.

38:35So in other words, the point I'm getting to is that I don't think Rubio or Vance or anyone attached to this administration has a shot at being the next nominee. I think if things continue on as they are right now, it's going to have to be somebody outside of of this administration that with the exception of maybe Joe Kent or someone like who resigned and discussed when it was happening. And I just want to say libertarian fantasy land. Libertarian fantasy land. Sure. Sure. We'll see. We'll see. Well, he's already. We can make a bet at some point if you can figure out terms. Sure. Sure. Absolutely.

39:05He's about as popular as George W. Bush was. Okay. Anyway. So by the way, to Will's comment that this is just like Russiagate, like if you say Israel has influence over Donald Trump, that's the exact same thing as saying that he was in a conspiracy with the Russians to overturn the election in 2016. Something, by the way, that I have a great track record on. It was that Russia blackmailed Trump. Do you not remember the P-tape allegations? Yes, but again, instead of interrupting what I say, I know, but if you just let me finish my point, that wouldn't really work here. See the difference, and this is someone who every single day called out Russiagate for the hoax that it was, the deep state attempted coup of a democratically elected president.

39:43Every day on my show, I called that out through all of Russiagate. And yet, you know what, Will? If Donald Trump had said, hey, these Russians who care about Russia more than anything else have given me hundreds of millions of dollars. And every day they come to the White House and they lobby me to do stuff on behalf of Russia. And I always say yes, I always do it. Yeah, Russiagate would have had some more legs to it. If there was an entire Russia lobby in this country who had been pushing for a war of aggression for 30 years and then Donald Trump launched it. yeah, Russiagate would have some more legs on it.

40:15I'm sorry, man. Just saying that there is foreign influence somewhere doesn't mean every - It was like dominated the national conversation for three years. You must have amnesia. No, what you guys are doing is extraordinarily similar.

40:26Piers Morgan:All right. This is so dishonest. Let me see that. Yeah. I think the difference - Hang on. Time out. Yeah. Uh-huh. Time out. I think the difference is in Russiagate, we didn't have - Neither did Buckwheat. In Russiagate, we didn't have - Wait a minute. in Russiagate, we didn't have the Republican Secretary of State confirming Russiagate to the world in the way that we had Marco Rubio. Let me end by asking Buckley, the question I want to ask you, but in a slightly different way, is are you 100 % certain that Tucker won't run for president in 2028? I'm not 100 % certain of anything. I don't have control over this or much else.

41:13He's saying there's a chance. Would you like him to, Lockley?

41:20Piers Morgan:Pardon? Would you like him to run for president? Not especially. I'd certainly like him to help articulate exactly what the next president should be focused on. I think he's capable of doing that probably better than really a few other people in public at the moment. But speaking of articulating things well, Dave Smith's point was excellent. And yes, I think Donald Trump should do the right thing and get the hell out of Iran and declare victory for the 37th time and this time actually mean it. But maybe he could also apologize to America and his voters while he's doing it. Maybe he could actually come to Jesus.

41:59I know we're not supposed to say that in public anymore, but maybe he should. He could repent for the mistakes that he's made and he could apologize.

42:06Piers Morgan:Well, I think Russell Brand would certainly endorse that final point. Will Chamberlain, just finally, are you prepared in six months' time if the Iran war is dragged on and it costs Republicans both halves of Congress, are you prepared to make a public apology on Uncensored for being so resolute in your conviction it was all going to end brilliantly? I won't make an apology because I don't...

42:59Take control of your privacy with IPVanish. Make public apologies. I actually have to wrong someone to make an apology. I think apologies need to be private. But I will come on and concede error. How about that? Is that sufficient?

43:11Piers Morgan:I'll take it. I'll take that. That would be intellectually honest of you. I've got to leave it there. Fascinating conversation. Thank you all very much. Thank you. Thanks, Pierce. I'm now joined by the host of the No Spin News, Bill O 'Reilly. Bill, how are you? I'm the same, which is tragic, Piers.

43:37Piers Morgan:That is a great answer, Bill O 'Reilly. Yeah, no evolution here. Not even after the triumphant visit by my king, which many are seeing as a precursor to us reclaiming the United States, and you lot admitting it was all a terrible mistake and returning to a monarchy, a British monarchy? I think King Charles is doing a very good job trying to mend the relationship between the UK and the USA. Trump likes the king personally. And with your other people, leaders over there, that wouldn't happen. So it's instructive. We need to have the UK as an ally. So I think all is going in a positive way on that visit so far.

44:30Piers Morgan:Yeah, I mean, I thought they actually have an unusually warm, almost bromance relationship, don't they? They get on very well. They're around the same kind of age. They've both been public figures for a long time. They've both taken a lot of breakbacks over the years. I think there's more in common with those two than people would perhaps like to concede. Well, Trump likes the monarchy because of his mother. You know, I wrote a book, The United States of Trump, and I trace back. He's always been favorable to it. But at this point, you know, NATO has just blown itself up. And we've got to put that back together.

45:10I think the president knows that. And King Charles is doing his best. So the cliche in America is it's all good so far.

45:22Piers Morgan:Let me ask you this, Bill. I got into a debate with Sean Hannity last night on Fox about Britain's failure to, as he saw it, to do the right thing and be full square behind Trump and the Americans in the attack on Iran. And I said, look, I think it was wrong that we didn't allow the United States to use the bases when President Trump first asked. We weren't being asked to commit to joining the attack just to use that America use the bases. I thought that was wrong. But, you know, we have long memories in the UK. We do remember the Iraq war, the same kind of promises about imminent use of nuclear weapons by weapons of mass destruction by Saddam Hussein.

46:04Piers Morgan:and we committed to that and it became a huge disaster, not least for Tony Blair, the prime minister that committed British troops to that. He's still loathed by many Britons to this day because of it. Do you think it's reasonable for an ally like the United Kingdom to occasionally say, even to a great ally like the United States, look, we'll give you a little bit of help. You can use the basis, but we're not going to join a war if we have a problem with that. Should you feel compelled as an ally to always just join a war in that circumstance? That wasn't the ask, though. The ask was just be accessible, let our military planes land and refuel.

46:47The ask wasn't send troops or ships or anything like that. But in a sane world, a world that really understood what was happening, every nation on Earth would be aligned against Iran. Because it's no game that they are playing with uranium. This is no game. This is no Saddam Hussein situation. This is entirely a destructive situation that could take out hundreds of thousands of people. Now, if you don't believe that, it's because you don't want to believe it. Your belief is not based on anything other than you don't want to believe it. And let me make my point. So Mossad is a very, very good intelligence operation that has flooded the zone in Iran.

47:39And U.S. intel, the CIA and the NSA, are equally as good. And the IAEA, based in Austria, all say the same thing. There's no dissent. the Iranians are close to developing a nuclear weapon. So if you walking down Piccadilly Square don't want to believe that, well, okay, but that's on you. It's not based on anything. So I'm a fact-based guy, as you know. I look at the data and every nation should be trying to neutralize Iran. Every single one.

48:34Piers Morgan:let's turn to one of the other big stories of the week they're kind of interlinked really the white house correspondence didn't i think you were there this is the third time that donald trump's come under an attack of this nature there's a lot of talk about the secret service doing a great job and so on i'm not really buying that bill because i see a secret service who have one job to protect the president who allowed a kid to get on a roof in butler pennsylvania 150 yards away and actually hit the president with a bullet and kill somebody else. I see them not checking a perimeter of his own golf course before he played it and allowing a guy to sit for 12 hours in a bush about to kill him.

49:14Piers Morgan:And if that hadn't been for one eagle eyed sequel service agent, then he'd probably be dead. And now here you've got this deranged nutcase who comes all the way on a train from California, books into the hotel where this event is happening. Nobody checks his room. Nobody knows he's armed to the teeth. He runs through the security point, which has a little fight of steps down to the main ballroom. Five shots are fired by the Secret Service, none of which hit this guy. And in fact, it looks like they may have hit one of their own with this volley of bullets, which missed the target. And if the guy hadn't fallen over, he may have got down the stairs and may have gotten to the ballroom and committed some kind of atrocity, perhaps even killing the president.

49:55Piers Morgan:None of this to me looks like a Secret Service at the top of its game at all. In fact, quite the opposite. What is your view? Well, on the Butler thing, that was a massive screw up on the part of the Secret Service. The guy in the bush, you know, they got him fairly early. They were surveilling. So on Saturday night, I was standing at the doorway where you are permitted entry into the ballroom. 2 ,000 people. 3 ,000 in the rest of the hotel. 5 ,000 altogether. And I hear the shots. Okay? And they're loud. And I look up and there's an escalator that comes down from the main floor of the hotel into the ballroom.

50:45That was man top and bottom. Okay? It was man. Guy could never have gotten through that security that they had on the escalator. There were very few ways down to the ballroom. It's not like you just wander on in there. So the guy had no shot, pardon the terrible punt, of getting anywhere near President Trump. And right after the shots were fired on the main floor, the Secret Service stormed into the ballroom and covered the president. Now, I stood up. I I wasn't one of these guys that was biting the carpet under the table because I've been doing this for a long time and you've got to see the story, which I did.

51:28And then I immediately spoke to the marshal who was at the bottom of the escalator about what was happening upstairs. And he had an earpiece like I do now and he was telling in real time what was happening. I can't take it beyond that. You know, maybe there was friendly fire and maybe the Secret Service agent was shot by one of his own. We will find that out. But I can tell you with a surety that there's just no way, if you're going to allow hotel guests into the building, which the Hilton did, okay, how you can stop it. The guy came down a back stairs. All right, that's why he took the train from Chicago.

52:12He didn't want anybody surveilling him, but there was no way he was getting into that room.

52:20Piers Morgan:In regard to President Trump himself, I thought he was on great form with the king, laid on a lot of pomp and ceremony, a lot of history there, obviously a lot of with his family and with the royals and so on, which I think he loved that. That's him at his best. He was charming. He was funny. He was, you know, he was very convivial. but at the same time this whole backdrop of the iran war the damage it's doing to him in the in the short term politically with approval rating has hit a new low in the last week you've got you know prices for people at the pump and food and so on beginning to edge up again that's likely to get worse not better in the short term you've got the midterm elections coming he may lose you know both the house and the senate the way things are looking which you know would render most presidents pretty well a lame duck.

53:10Piers Morgan:You know the president well. You talk to him a lot. Is he getting twitchy about the way things are going here? That's not the right word. He's getting anxious. When it first started, I said to my audience here in the colonies, this is the biggest gamble that Donald Trump has ever taken in his entire life because things get out of control in the Middle East very easily. It's a very hard containment there. And you've got a brutal regime that will slaughter its own people, and you've got a lot of conflicting interests that the president's going to have to control. So what the likely scenario now is that the United States is strangling Iran economically.

53:55Yes, we're suffering here, but we can handle the suffering. The gas prices are up and food will probably go up a bit. We can handle it, but Iran can't handle it. Okay, so you're going to see in the next week or so, I think it'll happen that quickly, the reports of more negotiations in the Senate, because Iran's not going to be able to feed itself. There's no food And they're not going to get any food in So the president is relying on US intel And these people who say Israel's calling the shots I mean this is just ridiculous And they don't know anything Israel's not calling any shots The only intel that Trump acted upon Was the location of the mullahs when they were first killed in the first salvo, because Mossad knew where they were.

54:55But anyway, if my scenario and the president's scenario comes to fruition, that Iran does give up, which it's going to have to do, it's just a matter of when, then oil prices will drop very significantly, and everything will go back to so-called normal quickly. Now, nobody can predict when that will happen. There was a poll out yesterday from Harris-Harvard that says in the midterm elections, it's 50-50. You would think it would be way to the Democrats' favor. It isn't, because the Democrats have no leader, and they continue to do things that are unsettling to the majority of Americans who are not ideological.

55:41However, there's another poll out that says this is the worst financial situation for Americans in 25 years. So now you have battling polls. And if that 25 percent number holds, then the Democrats will likely win the midterms. And that will be the end of the Trump administration.

56:06Piers Morgan:Just finally, Bill, we were debating earlier in the show about who is the most likely to be the next Republican nominee. J.D. Vance is still number one in the polling for that, followed by Marco Rubio. Tucker Carlson, your old Fox colleague, is third now at 6 percent. What do you think? I mean, is it is it unfeasible that Tucker could end up being the nominee? look i don't follow that world uh... it's an interesting world but i i have better and more difficult things to do like gather facts and so anybody can run for president donald trump proved that he opened the door for anybody any populist candidate in america now has uh...

56:55pathway way. But it's inconceivable to me that the system in Washington would embrace any kind of social media guy. I don't want to single out Tucker Carlson, it could be anybody. The influencers. It's not the way it goes. As far as Vance and Rubio are concerned, Rubio has momentum. And Vance does not. However, it's three years, just about three years before the 28 thing swings into action. So I would say it's even money on those two guys right now. And there could be a few other populist candidates from the right that emerge. But a lot of this is just a waste of verbiage, you know, this one might run or that one.

57:57Anybody can run, but you got to raise a billion dollars. Okay. And you've got to be a person that's taken seriously. So those are two things that are fairly difficult to attain here in the colonies. Yeah.

58:17Piers Morgan:Finally, Bill, I don't know if you saw any of my interview with Russell Brand, but particularly the clip where he spends over two minutes trying to find a passage in the Bible, which many people are saying may have been the longest amount of dead air ever aired in a television news interview. So I'm just curious, have you ever had a longer period of sustained silence as a broadcaster during an interview with anyone? No, because I'm a blabbermouth. I would have filled it. but i i believe that most funded should it uh... emulate you and have as much dead air as they can because they say nothing they don't know anything and they don't care that no anything it's all about money that's what it's about in america and i suspect is that in the u k as well and so just so uh...

59:13viewers understand And when you go out on your own, which I did, and I formed my own news agency, not a punditry. It's an actual news agency. We run a news program, and now we've expanded into YouTube and exploded on a lot of different fronts. I make a ton of dough doing that, Pierce. A lot of money. Okay? And if you become famous in this area of social media, you can make a lot of money, too. And that's what it's about. So most people don't have the wherewithal to form a news organization. I did. And I formed it. Okay? It's easier to go solo and just rip up everybody and get your name on social media while so-and-so is smearing that or doing this or doing that.

1:00:11that's Kimmel's game. That's what the games are. They say this stuff, nobody watches them on TV, but boom, it goes out on social media. And you can sell ads off that if you have a platform on YouTube or any of the social media, X. And that's what this whole industry is all about. A lot of people don't understand it.

1:00:35Piers Morgan:Yeah, you're absolutely right. Bill O 'Reilly, great to talk to you. Thank you very much. Thanks for having me, Piers.

1:01:06Piers Morgan:Well, it just means you can't call me a British asshole because I'm technically an Irish one. That's fair. I'll take that one. David, good to talk to you. Take care. Good to talk with you. Be well. Piers Morgan Uncensored is proudly independent. The only boss around here is me. If you enjoy our show, we ask for only one simple thing. Hit subscribe on YouTube and follow Piers Morgan Uncensored on Spotify and Apple Podcasts. And in return, we will continue our mission to inform, irritate and entertain. And we'll do it all for free. Independent, uncensored media has never been more critical and we couldn't do it without you.