“Should Be Charlie Kirk!” Time Person Of the Year, Strongwoman Controversy & Best Comedies Ever

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0:30Piers Morgan:Okay, let's lighten the load Variety Magazine's best comedies of all time Who is funnier, American comedy or British comedy? Oh, British comedy, 100 % Ooh, God, these are fighting words Chevy Chase? Jim Carrey? John Belushi? I'm really incensed that the Cornetto trilogy wasn't there Like, we could have had Shaun of the Dead We could have had Hot Fuzz We could have had The World's End I would disagree with that Trust me, Anastasia, even you would crack a smile. Tropic Thunder is possibly the last balls-out comedy to have been made. Dr Anastasia, what's your favourite comedy? Not my genre of choice.

1:07You don't find things fun? Well, last time, Fierce, you told me I'm not fun at parties, so I'm really matching my grades.

1:11Piers Morgan:Well, you just proved the point. If you can't think of a single comedy movie you like, that's what I mean about the Woke Brigade. Where's the laughter? Where's the fun? I'm having fun here, Fierce. This has been truly a pleasure. If you've been arguing about politics at the Thanksgiving dinner table this week, I have excellent news. For this show, we're going to argue about everything other than politics. Has Wicked lifted Hollywood's box office curse? And more importantly, could its stars be the first non-demi-curious, semi-binary couple ever to win an Oscar? Time magazine prepares to name its person of the year.

1:41Piers Morgan:Who should win? The World's Strongest Woman contest is won by a man. Should we have a problem with that or are we all just bigots? and as Variety's list of the 100 best comedies of all time prove that Woke really is dead, as my new book is titled. Joining me to discuss all that and more, Will Jordan, best known as YouTube's leading movie critic, The Critical Drinker, Gary Nodrodik-Mukla, who's the host of Friday Night Tights, Gillian Michaels, host of Keeping It Real, and Dr Anastasia Gabriel, who's the cultural commentator. Plus a man who's been in the headlines for a legal victory this week, the comedy writer Graham Nenehan, is with me in the studio too.

2:15Piers Morgan:Welcome back to you, Graham, to Uncensored. So welcome to all of you. We'll start with something which will definitely be, I'm sure, something Graham will have a view about. This is the most extraordinary story of our time, really, in the way that it perfectly personified, I think, one of the big problems with the woke sort of scourge on our society, as I would put it. A transgender athlete called Jammie Booker won the world's strongest woman title several days ago. and celebrated. You know, big picture, celebrating on the podium. And then there was an interesting exchange with the camera and the woman who came second, who was really pissed off about this and stomped off and it looked rather graceless.

3:02Piers Morgan:Right to the point, it emerged that Jammy Booker is a biological male, is a man. And that was why Jammy Booker looked so much bigger than the female contestants. and why Jamie Booker won the title of the world's strongest woman. But Gillian Michaels, right here in this story, once it emerged that Jamie Booker was male, the organisers stripped Jamie Booker of the title and said they weren't aware that Jamie Booker identified as a trans athlete at all. They thought that she was a woman. What do you make of this? I mean, it seemed to me the fight back, this is why I say woke is dead, that the public reaction was so quick and so ferocious and the official reaction was so quick to correct this, that this is why I believe wokeism is actually dead.

4:01Piers Morgan:Not everyone's got the memo yet, but the public tolerance of it is disintegrating. Listen, I'm glad to see that Jammie was stripped of the title and it was given to a biological female because I think fairness in sports is essential. It is the pillar of sports, along with safety and then inclusion. And often in many of these different categories, there are mixed categories for people like Jammie. Now, having said that, I completely disagree with you about Woke being dead, Piers. I'm seeing craziness abound everywhere. And in fact, I think it was in the Carolinas regarding powerlifting. The Supreme Court just penalized the United States Powerlifting Association for not allowing biological males into sport with biological females, despite having a mixed category.

4:53So I think every step in the right direction is great here, but I don't think we're there yet at all.

4:59Piers Morgan:OK, Dr. Anastasia Gabriela, what do you make of this? Well, I would push back on the idea that woke is dead and everything is about perspective. What does actually woke mean to you? For some, it might mean craziness, as the panelists said. For some, that might mean being more aware, more inclusive and more progressive and how we understand people who hold all kinds of differences. So to me, I'm not familiar with that particular case, so I will not comment on the decision. But what worries me the most is the kind of abuse and harassment that oftentimes emerges in these moments that actually affects people and populations beyond that one particular winner and the kind of rhetoric that we, our society, are normalising.

5:42Piers Morgan:Yeah, but the problem, it seems to me, is when a society endorses, often legally, this kind of thing, you are going to piss off a lot of people. And the victims actually tend to be trans people who want to just get on with their lives, quietly, not bother anyone, you know, may have gone through years of surgery in some cases, right? I've got full respect for those people. But when you, as a society, when you say it's perfectly normal for biological men to compete against women, I say society loses its mind. And so people, when they see this, go, well, this is obviously unfair. It shouldn't be happening.

6:18Well, Piers, I would respectfully challenge you on the idea of normal. This is an incident that has happened out of how many other victories where that has not been the case. Why should it happen at all, though?

6:28Piers Morgan:If it was doping, we wouldn't allow anything. We live in a society where all sorts of things happen. And to me, this is an opportunity to discuss these issues, to talk about what's normal. Would you have gender-neutral Olympics? I'm not sure that I would immediately subscribe to that position. You're not sure? Let me finish, please. Would you allow men and women to compete in one gender-neutral category at the Olympics, in all the different sports? Fierce, it's lovely to be back. I would love to be able to finish my sentence. Sure. I would not necessarily argue for that position myself. Why not?

7:08However... Because I do think that there are different athletic abilities. Ah! Bingo!

7:14Piers Morgan:Bingo! So you know it's unfair. That's my point. So you wouldn't allow it because you know... ..you know that men have a physical advantage. Piers, I cannot articulate my position in a rational manner. You just answered it. No, you're cutting me off. Do not allow me to make my point. And if that's how it's going to be, I'll give the mic back to you. Is there more to your point than you realise it's wrong to put the sexes together? I am saying that society changes and notions like right or wrong are dependent on your perspective. Not really. Not really. They're dependent on things called biology and science in this case.

7:53Well, there are myriads of very well-established scholars, activists, professionals who might disagree with you. So who are you to say that they're completely wrong? That's a part of the debate. Even you don't disagree. That's part of the debate.

8:06Piers Morgan:Anastasia, even you don't... There's no one right or wrong. Even you don't disagree with me. You just said you think it's right that these sexes are kept apart in the Olympics. I did not say, please do not put words in my mouth. I said that it's a nuanced issue, and I think there is... It's not a nuance. We separate the sexes. ..that are grey areas... OK, let me ask you one more time. ..the way that our society is headed. Let me ask you one more time. OK. Why do we separate the sexes in the Olympics? At this point, I will not entertain your provocations. Got it. No problem at all. Thank you. Can I answer it?

8:38Because there's a robust amount of data outside of what is observationally obvious. that men have superior athleticism across every single modality of fitness. And the reality is that when you mess around with fundamental truths like XY chromosome and XX chromosome, it is crippling to a society because we cannot solve problems when we can't agree on what's real and what isn't. It's okay to have... I want to bring in... What's the world history?

9:07Piers Morgan:Anastasia, I'm afraid you can't... Anastasia, you can't refuse to comment on this anymore. And then start commenting on it again. That is science as well. That's not how this works. Graham, welcome back to Uncensored. You got cleared yesterday of harassing a teenage trans activist, Sophie Brooks, on social media. You were convicted of damaging her phone. This came after she accused you... She was 17 at the time. Apparently, you called her a sociopath, a psycho, a domestic terrorist, and groom her on X. The judge said your social media posts did not amount to harassment. First of all, how do you feel about what went down in the verdict there?

9:46You know, very good. I've been targeted by this group of men, most recently, including Sophie, for about ten years now. So it's nice to draw more attention to them. I'm hoping that finally the police will start investigating these men who have been harassing not just me, but dozens of women across the country, getting them arrested, suing them. you know, these are basically a criminal gang and the UK police, for some reason, are working for them. And, you know, the police have gone from being terrified of being called institutionally racist to being institutionally misogynist, you know? And it's annoying that I had to go through all this, but I'm glad it's bringing more attention to...

10:34Piers Morgan:You've been having a lot of wins, actually, in the last few months. It seems like common sense is beginning to prevail. I mean, the one thing that people say about you, which I think, you know, I can understand why they feel it, it's not the campaign you've waged or the logic of your argument. It's sometimes the rhetoric you've used. When you look back over the last few years, notwithstanding the fact you yourself have been on the receiving end of vicious, horrible rhetoric, but if you had your time again, would you tone down the rhetoric? Every so often there's a piece of cinematic entertainment that just feels bigger and bigger.

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11:49Piers Morgan:Watch the full trailer now at dailywire.com. Well, the thing about the rhetoric is it has to be understood in the light of the fact that, as I say, I've been targeted by these men for 10 years, for a decade. I lost my Father Ted musical because my colleagues wouldn't stand up for me in the face of this harassment. And I lost my marriage, as people know, because I lost my ability to make an income. So our family was put under pressure. So if ever I'm rude or angry or express myself forcefully, It's simply because I'm just disgusted by my colleagues who have watched me go through all this without a word of support.

12:36Ardell O 'Hanlon recently threw me under the bus. He's never once called me to ask how I was doing. He's never once called to say he supports my campaigns against men and women's sports, against men and women's prisons. Yes, if I do express myself forcefully, it's simply because I'm very frustrated at the fact that people can't see what's evident... When you hear a debate like this,

13:02Piers Morgan:when we start off with the world's strongest woman title being won by a biological male, there, right there, is one of the problems, right? Is that people just hate to hear women, including someone on this panel, kind of defending this kind of stuff. I just find it completely baffling. And also, you know, they always say things like, you know, this is a unique occurrence. It's been happening again. This has been happening for about 10 years. Laurel Hubbard, the weightlifter in New Zealand. New Zealand weightlifter, 45 years old, nearly twice the age of any other contestant. Yeah. Very unsuccessful as a male weightlifter, certainly an Olympian contestant.

13:37And beat two Indigenous women. He now holds the women's record for weightlifting in New Zealand. It's ridiculous. It's insane.

13:44Piers Morgan:OK, let's lighten the load. Let's turn to Variety magazine's best comedies of all time. So, at number three, Annie Hall. Ironic, given that Woody Allen has been pretty well the victim of a cancellation attempt as well. Some Like It Hot, a film about the ridiculous idea of men pretending to be women. Irony is not dead here. And number one, Naked Gun, starring Leslie Nilsson, one of the most notoriously un-PC comedies, featuring the infamous Nice Beaver line. So, again, further evidence, Gillian, that Woke is dead because Naked Gun would never have been number one on this before. I've got to say, my favourite, Nedrodic, let's start with you here.

14:27Piers Morgan:A, what do you think of the top three? I'm absolutely incensed about two things. One, The Anchorman is not in the top three, which to me is not only the greatest anti-woke movie ever made, but also howlingly funny. And secondly, the campaign with Will Farrell isn't further up the list. It's apparently, I think, way down, actually. It didn't even make the top 100. It's the biggest grossing political comedy ever made, and I know that because I'm in it. So I feel I've been robbed. But, Nidradi, first of all, the top three. Annie Hall, Something Like Your Heart, Naked Gun. Good choices. Would you have had another one at number one?

15:08Absolutely. I would have had a lot more at number one. Anything Monty Python, Holy Grail, I would have put up there. Airplane. I love Naked Gun, but it's a compilation of the TV show. It's kind of a really odd choice. And they use the word influential in this. But any list that doesn't have, I've got 30 I could read off here, that doesn't have Tropic Thunder, Blues Brothers, Animal House, any Pink Panther movie, Uncle Buck, Ferris Bueller, it's a mad, mad, mad, mad world, Vacation, American Pie, Beverly Hills Cop 1 and 2, 48 Hours Ghostbusters. Is Beverly Hills Cop not in the list? No, no Ghostbusters.

15:44Piers Morgan:Oh, that's completely outrageous. Beverly Hills Cop one of the greats. Yeah, but Tropic Thunder being off the list is absolutely ridiculous, and I would put that easily in the top three. What should be the... What's the funniest comedy ever made? In my opinion, I would have to say Blazing Saddles. I'd love Blazing Saddles. Number 77, completely outrageous. Critical Drinker. What do you make of this list? It's obviously incendiary already. Yeah, I mean, look, it's always going to be contentious. Like, what is the greatest comedy of all time? Like, how do you even begin to pick them out? But, yeah, I'm not sure if I would put Naked Gun right at the top there.

16:22I'm really incensed that the Cornetto trilogy wasn't there. Like, we could have had Shaun of the Dead. We could have had Hot Fuzz. We could have had The World's End. They should be way up in the rankings. Where's Life of Brian in that top ten? Yeah.

16:37Piers Morgan:It's nowhere on the list. Life of Brian didn't make the top hundred. I mean, that's absolutely... That's actually... That's an offence. Well, we've got a great, isn't it? You made one of the great comedies. Is Father Ted on the list? Well, it's not a film. Does it not have any TV shows in there? It's all movies. So, Graham, for you, A, the three they've chosen for the top three, but what would you have? I don't know. I mean, my tastes are very esoteric. One of my favourite comedies of all time is The Heartbreak Kid with Charles Grodin. I've watched that like a thousand times. I think it's a perfectly constructed comedy movie.

17:10Piers Morgan:That's in there, apparently. Oh, is it? Oh, good, good. It deserves to be. And I slightly disagree with Nerdratic on the Naked Gun. I just think the Naked Gun films were even an improvement on the airplane films in that they... Just this simple thing of Leslie Nielsen's straight face throughout this utter insanity, I think, is one of those comedy secrets they discovered that has hardly been beaten since then. Getting all these... And again, in the Naked Gun series, the Police Squad series, getting all these actors who were used to being in the type of TV shows they were parodying. It was beautiful.

17:50Piers Morgan:Is the funniest comedy, Graham, offensive? I mean, a lot of Catholics got upset with Father Ted, for example, but a lot of my favourite comedies are pretty near the knuckle. You have to walk a line. And, again, as people have been pointing out, the problem with the last decade, again, is that we haven't been allowed to walk the line. Comedians have to be able to take risks and to tell jokes that don't work and be offensive and all these things. But we've had a very nervous sort of executive class that The Critical Drinker and Adrodic have been covering brilliantly on their YouTubes. And, you know, it just seems to me that it...

18:30Like, I think people might agree with me that Tropic Thunder is not only a great film, but possibly the last balls-out comedy to have been made, you know? Absolutely. Yeah. Yes, 100%. It's such a shame. It's such a shame that we've had 10 years where it's been kind of like a desert, you know?

18:48Piers Morgan:Well, let me ask Dr Anastasia. We're on a lighter subject here. What's your favourite comedy? Movie? Not my genre of choice, so I'm learning a lot. You surprise me. You don't find things funny? Well, last time, Piers, you told me I'm not fun at parties, so I'm really matching my brand with you. Well, you just proved the point. If you can't think of a single comedy movie, you lie. It's all the books behind me. But Anastasia, that's what I mean about the woke brigade. You don't like laughing. You're joyless, people. Where's the laughter? Where's the fun? I'm having fun here, Piers. This has been truly a pleasure.

19:21Piers Morgan:You don't find any comedy movies funny? It's not my genre of choice. You never watch comedy? I mean, occasionally, but I can't tell you off the top of my head my favourites. You can't think of a single comedy movie you've ever enjoyed? No, Piers. I cannot. Wow. this is you see i need to be shocking you today it's just this is part of the problem with woke ism it's humorless oh gosh let's move on fierce today's show is sponsored by oxford natural makers of the optimum day and optimum night all natural supplements thousands of brits and americans are already taking them with incredible results optimum day boosts your energy and supports weight loss throughout the day optimum night helps you relax and get deep refreshing They have countless success stories, including from some very familiar faces.

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20:53Piers Morgan:So good, guys. Come on. And then Harry Met Sally. Oh, When Harry Met Sally. None of those are in the top 100. How can you not have When Harry Met Sally? Oh, no, Shirley Redhury. The greatest... It must be in there, surely. Greatest comedic movie about relationships ever made. Wow. Is it not in there, team? Seriously? It's not in there. 29, 29. Oh, is it? I missed that one. How could it not be in the top ten? Miss Call One is in there as well. I don't think something about Mary is on the list. Unbelievable. No, that's not in there. Yeah. Who is funnier, Nidrotti? American comedy or British comedy?

21:32Piers Morgan:Oh, British comedy. Yeah. 100%. I grew up on it watching PBS here in America, Fawlty Towers, Monty Python, reading Douglas Adams. Yeah, absolutely. It's different. Well, you're educated over there. Your schools are pretty good. Not anymore, buddy. Well, when I grew up 100 years ago. But yeah, I grew up on British comedy. I think it's superior. It's smarter. oh god these are fighting we're chevy chase jim carrey john belushi i think it might be a case of i think it might be a case of grass is greener you know because i i've always loved american comedy and and and really admire uh uh you know the spirit of american comedy recent shows like uh i think you should leave uh you know it's just a style of comedy we don't see over here and Yeah, it's nice.