“The Beginning Of The END” Eric Weinstein & Bill O'Reilly on Trump, Epstein, Putin & Israel

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23:45Eric Weinstein:Piers, good to be with you.

23:47Piers Morgan:Epstein Files, talk to me.

23:52Eric Weinstein:I've been talking about this since his original... since before his original arrest in Florida. So I think if you want to narrow the question, I would just like to say that, you know, this is much bigger than Trump. And I think that one of the things that Trump is figuring out right now with the Epstein issue is that MAGA has outgrown Trump. MAGA is now something that was created by Trump, But it is a bronching buck that could buck anyone off who is seen as not being perfectly aligned with the idea that the people have to take back the country. Now, I'm not saying pro or against. I'm just describing that I think that anyone who thinks that they control MAGA will find out that they do not.

24:45Piers Morgan:You've done a lot of stuff on Epstein, as you said. You know, it seems to me, you know, you go back 15-odd years to the conviction of Epstein for being a paedophile. You know, he was indisputably convicted of a crime which made him a paedophile. And yet after that, people, including Prince Andrew over here, continued to consult with him. He continued to be wined and dined by the rich and famous. and when this all came out and when the full scale of his abuse of so many underage girls came out, it was being seen as a genuinely gigantic potential scandal in America and that was fuelled, the sense of that, by a lot of people now at the top of the Trump administration and indeed even after the inauguration, many of these people had continued to kind of lead the media to the water's edge, promising them the ultimate drink, if you like, of the full dirt in the Epstein files, including naming and shaming people and holding them to account.

25:55Piers Morgan:And then suddenly, out of nowhere, a week ago, everything stops. The shutters come down. And now you've got a kind of civil war raging on the Conservative right. And as you say, Trump slightly ostracized from many of the MAGA voters on this, and I think probably compounded by the strike on Iran, helping Ukraine. These are things that the MAGA base do not feel comfortable with. So talk to me about where you think we are with the shutting down of this scandal. Do you think it's possible for Trump to shut it down? He started attacking, you know, the Republicans who don't agree with him as stupid and so on.

26:42Piers Morgan:But can he shut this down or is that genie out of the bottle and will it continue to damage him?

26:51Eric Weinstein:Nobody can shut it down. I mean, the issue is, is that many of us are parents. And in our hierarchy of identities, those of us with children very often are mom and dad before we are anything else. That is, before we are Americans, before we are Jews, before we are Republicans, before we are Christians. There's just this sort of sense that one has to protect those who cannot protect or speak for themselves. And there's a gradation. You know, there's a question about is there something magical that happens when someone turns, a young person turns 18 on their birthday? And then there's an issue about are we talking about 12-year-olds, 14-year-olds?

27:34Eric Weinstein:It just gets sicker and sicker as you go farther and farther from that date in the law. And as people come to understand that the allegations go into 14-year-olds, 12-year-olds, who knows where this stops, the rage on the part of parents escalates. And I think that, you know, at some point the FBI called me in for unrelated reasons. And the first thing I told them before I cooperated with them is just to let you guys know, if I ever find out that you were complicit in running a covert operation that used children to do anything in terms of statecraft, all bets are off because I'm a human being before I'm an American.

28:28Eric Weinstein:And, you know, the oath that we will fight all enemies, foreign and domestic, means that those of us who are worried about a state-sponsored pedophile or a state-protected pedophile who is using pedophilia as part of what the intelligence or really the covert operations group would call tradecraft, breaks all rules. It breaks all agreements. It supersedes absolutely everything. And at a certain level, citizenship in this society is about surrendering to the monopoly on violence that is the state. And if the state refuses to remediate this, I think there are a lot of people—I mean, we've all seen a parent kill someone in a courtroom when a murderer and a rapist laughs because they've used the justice system to evade on a technicality.

29:21Eric Weinstein:And there's a question about will juries convict a parent who's done such a thing? I think that what you're talking about is a mismatch in scale. This is an issue where some percentage of America feels so strongly about state abuse and the feeling that we are not getting to the bottom of this, that if they suspect state-sponsored pedophilia as part of covert operations tradecraft, they will go to the ends of the earth to shut this thing down and to push it into the light. And what we don't know is whether when people get into office, let us imagine for the moment a placeholder theory. A placeholder theory was that Epstein faked some sort of involvement with children because you get the same bang for your buck by taking somebody who's 22 years old, portraying them as if they're 14 and compromising someone.

30:12Eric Weinstein:So then you have this issue of sources and methods. We know, for example, that the U.S. years ago may have directed a pornographic film featuring an actor in Los Angeles who was given the likeness of Sukarno as head of the Indonesian state. And that was from a photograph that we had gotten from Sukarno in Moscow. So we are perfectly willing to use Hollywood, used all sorts of crazy things to create incontrovertible evidence for things that never occurred. So one of the things that may have happened is that Trump and company, once they actually got the information, may have said, oh, my gosh, it's something quite different than we imagined.

30:52Eric Weinstein:But I believe that this is either this happened with the non-knowledge of our intelligence services, in which case there was a giant failure of us to know what was going on inside of our own borders. or almost certainly this was a product of some portion of our covert operations group and maybe covert operations groups in other countries, obvious candidates are the UK, Israel, Saudi Arabia, what have you. And whatever this is, you have this giant collision between people who are not supposed to take an interest in covert operations and people who do this kind of stuff for a living. There's an entire giant legal infrastructure around the collision between an open society and covert operations and shielding them.

31:47There's something called SSP, state secrets privilege,

31:51Eric Weinstein:like attorney-client privilege or spousal privilege to keep things out of the courts. There's clandestine back channels where there are tacit agreements that the Department of Justice is supposed to hold off. There are national security letters that can get sent. We have secret internet called JWICS and other things for communication. There's a giant infrastructure of secrecy. And what you can see right here is almost certainly the collaboration of the press, and this is the thing that I've been highlighting. You have a hedge fund that almost certainly didn't exist in the terms that it was claimed.

32:25Eric Weinstein:When I met with him, he was supposedly running a multi-billion dollar FX hedge fund, foreign exchange hedge fund. That thing would have to leave a wake in the data. It would have to have filings. It would have to have employees. My recollection is that he told me that he only employed Orthodox Jews from Brooklyn because they were the only ones trustworthy to run such a secretive operation. My guess is that this was all nonsense. And there's even a concept called dummy compliance, where you file forms, you know, you get things blessed by cooperative auditors, but there's no way to fake a trail in the markets.

33:06Eric Weinstein:And I think that this is the interesting thing. I can tell that this is a fake story because it sells papers and no one wants to cover it. And when I say no one, it's not the journalists. The journalists want to cover it. They always come to me and they say, this is amazing. I'm going to follow all this up and I tell you, I tell them two weeks from now, you're going to have a really weird conversation with your editor where they're going to tell you everyone's moved on and no one cares, or there's not enough to go on. This is controlled at the editorial layer, not at the journalistic layer. And there's something called negative contrast imaging, where if you have an environment in which you have a stealth object and everything else reflects, you can actually map the stealth object by trying to bounce things off of it and realizing that's the only thing that doesn't bounce any signal back.

33:52Eric Weinstein:So it's LIDAR, sonar, radar, what have you. Basically, you can see the outline of an intelligence operation, because at some level, you have the world's juiciest story with no interest from editors and tremendous interest from journalists. So you can piece together exactly what this is, more or less from negative imaging or silhouette imaging, if you will.

34:12Piers Morgan:Do you believe that he was an Israeli agent of some sort?

34:21Eric Weinstein:I don't have any knowledge of that. The only thing that I'm confident of is that he was almost certainly doing this with the backing of a state and the cooperation of our own services, because there's no way he could operate inside of the U.S. in this fashion. And this is clearly a joint project of us and potentially others. but it had to involve the FBI and CIA as a joint project.

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36:15Eric Weinstein:If you've seen any of my interviews, it was one of the most bizarre interactions I've ever had. I will remember it for the rest of my life as being terrifying. This is not a... You didn't sit down with him and think, wow, what a great guy. You thought, holy cow, this is the weirdest doorway into an alternate reality. And, you know, in particular, he was absolutely more interested in my science than he was in anything I was doing with hedge funds and risk management, which is how nominally I came to be in his orbit. He was very connected to a major book agent. He was funding all sorts of scientists.

37:00Eric Weinstein:He was obsessed by gravity. He knew things about my work that were essentially known to no one. He was very connected through at least one Harvard mathematician who I think became a dean of some kind at Harvard University. So he was connected to my graduate department. I never heard his name while I was there. And I was not only there until 1992. I was in Cambridge, Massachusetts at MIT, so in the same ecosystem, for years after that. Then I came back to Harvard. He was a very strange object. and the connection between Ghislaine's father, who really had an enormous impact on scientific publishing and had the ability to sort of look at all science before it's published because of peer review.

37:50Eric Weinstein:He ran Pergamon Press.

37:52Piers Morgan:Yeah.

37:52Eric Weinstein:There is no question that there is some transmission that is likely between Robert Maxwell of Pergamon Press and Jeffrey Epstein's science obsession, particularly with gravity.

38:03Piers Morgan:Fascinating. Absolutely fascinating. How, I mean, in terms of the alleged crimes that Epstein was accused of committing, how guilty do you think he was likely to have been? In other words, are we talking a small-time abuser, a gigantic serial abuser? What's your gut feeling about that side of him?

38:32Eric Weinstein:My sense of it is that somebody lost control of an agent. and that this person was supplied with an enormous, you know, backstories are typically called legends, I believe, in tradecraft. So he was a mythical creature who was supposedly so intelligent that, you know, he could discern, you know, the slightest tremor in the markets, et cetera, et cetera. He believed his own mythology almost certainly. And, you know, my sense of it is that somebody lost control of a monster and that the actor that they hired to play this was not well in the head. Now, that's my gut feeling. The other thing that really concerns me is people are bad at conspiracy theory.

39:18Eric Weinstein:We have a tremendous amount of background data on what conspiracy theories look like. There's a precedent before Epstein called Craig Spence that we almost never hear about. I don't know if that's something you know about, Pierce. But yeah, so this is not the first operation of its kind. And I think it's very important to recognize that once somebody set this thing up at great expense, imagine that this is a nine figure fortune that was beaten into, you know, gold beaten into gold foil to look like a 12 figure fortune or something remarkable. So he was acting rich in a way that even rich people don't act rich.

39:56Eric Weinstein:He was acting smart in a way that smart people don't act smart. So the whole thing was likely having a bunch of different activities funneled through it. So, for example, he seemed to be giving tax advice that would also potentially entrap people in ways that the IRS could get them potentially. That was something that he was giving away. He was also, my guess is, providing non-pedophile sexual opportunities with young women who were over the age of 18, because I think his real product was silence. And I think people don't get that sex is readily available. Sex is always embarrassing. But I think that the key issue is that Epstein was able to guarantee silence when no one else could guarantee silence.

40:41Eric Weinstein:And that's why people came to him. And I also think that there's something about the way in which people have to agree to be compromised in some sense to enter the elite because otherwise you're not considered trustworthy. So you have to surrender something so that there's a kill switch on you. and I think that he in part specialised in installing the kill switch.

41:03Piers Morgan:How do you think he died? Do you think he did kill himself? Or are you, at the very least, you know, not oblivious to the theory that maybe it was more deference that somebody arranged it?

41:21Eric Weinstein:Why do you believe that he's dead? Why do you believe that he killed himself? I certainly don't think that he experienced shame the way normal people did. So I think the idea that he was so embarrassed that he took his own life is probably the only thing I feel I have anything to add. But, you know, let me just caution your listeners. All of this fun that people have with conspiracy theories is absolutely deadly when it comes to actually getting justice. And calling this pedophile island and Lolita Express and talking about Epstein didn't kill himself as a joke. Like any of you know, none of you know.

41:58Eric Weinstein:And, you know, if you were serious about this and you as a parent, just let me specialize to all the moms and dads out there. If you're serious as a parent of wanting this sort of thing absolutely excised from our society, don't go after the children. Don't go after the memes. Focus on one issue, one issue alone. why will the press not report on the multi-billion dollar foreign currency hedge fund, which even if it has dummy compliance, I guarantee you any forensic accountant could determine whether this thing was real or fake. And my guess is, is that there are no former employees employed from the yeshivas of Brooklyn.

42:38Eric Weinstein:This thing, I think, is a will of the wisp. It's a figment of our imagination, and it's a product of statecraft. And the fact that our, you know, We have very longstanding relationships with our major news organs that they agree to have liaisons to the covert operations group so that we don't constantly report. This is an issue called deconfliction. Many people don't know that word. This is a situation which escaped our deconfliction systems almost certainly. And it has the hallmark in the outline. The person you should have on, not me, is the person who is an expert in all of the legal aspects of having a free society with covert operations group.

43:14Eric Weinstein:In particular, there's a case of something like Almasiri versus Tenet, which establishes that when somebody has a legitimate case in the courts and their state secret privilege, that person may not be entitled to exculpatory evidence and information that state secrets trump justice. And I think it's absolutely imperative that you have a lawyer on who's competent to talk about this so this doesn't enter into the realm of conspiracy theory. So I'm going to decline to speculate.

43:41Piers Morgan:Fascinating. Elon Musk fell out spectacularly with Donald Trump and posted on X in a bombshell, Trump's in the Epstein files. I know you're very close with Peter Thiel, Elon's old boss. What do you make of what's happened there?

44:06You have, how do I put this? It would appear that Elon is very disappointed that we are not radical enough to understand the threat to the country.

44:18Eric Weinstein:It's a very clear idea about what has to be surmounted. He, I believe, then apologized for that, which I found interesting, much the way Amy Robach had the famous hot mic incident and then said, oh, that was nothing. Something in these files, something in this situation causes people to reverse course. and I think that what you have to assume is that the public will never, ever, ever let this go and that there is some equal and opposite pressure which says that the elite will do absolutely anything to keep it secret. And by elite, I don't mean people who are actually elite. I mean people who are in the chairs that should be reserved for the elite but have a lot to lose.

45:04Piers Morgan:Let's just pivot, Eric, if we can, just to foreign policy. you said at the 12-day war with Iran that the West still hasn't fully understood the implications of what happened. I mean, it didn't actually illuminate Iran's apparent weakness. You also said this about... Well, I'm going to play you what the clip was. This is Trump's F-word rant, and then get you to explain why you think the significance of that has been understated too. You know what, we basically have two countries that have been fighting so long and so hard that they don't know what the fuck they're doing. Do you understand that?

45:47Piers Morgan:So first on that, Harry, why do you think we've understated the significance of that moment?

45:56Eric Weinstein:This goes back to my grandfather, who I never heard swear except for potentially once when a car might sideswipe me in Westwood, Los Angeles. And I said, you know, Harry, you have a very strong sense that one should never use profanity. And he turned to me and said, I absolutely disagree with you. And I said, what do you mean? He said, the reason I never swear is because when I need it, you will notice that I'm swearing. If I used it all the time, you'd never notice. The fact is that Trump almost always appears in a suit, a tie, and he doesn't usually use the F-bomb. And he was trying to send a message, which is, this is so dangerous.

46:33Eric Weinstein:This involves China. This may involve Pakistan. This may involve India. What is going on in the Middle East is the beginning of World War III with Iran, I think, very carefully calibrating a message of violence where the threat to Tel Aviv was calibrated. And my belief is that the amount of damage that could have been inflicted on Tel Aviv far exceeds what was. and that Iran is trying to speak violence as the most skilled speaker of that language, with the possible exception of Vladimir Putin. And that, unfortunately, people, as a result of being relatively long at peace, people have forgotten what violence means as a language.

47:23Eric Weinstein:And so when Iran originally set hypersonic missiles into the ground of Israel, killing almost no one, many Israelis responded by saying, ah, you see how incompetent they are? They couldn't kill any of us. And the Iranians must have just been shaking their heads and saying, my gosh, you guys have no idea that we're sending you a message that Iron Dome doesn't work fully for hypersonics. I think what's going on is that you're looking at the beginning of the end. Once those things are loaded with nuclear weapons, you are talking about a completely different world and you just saw the beginnings of it.

48:01Eric Weinstein:This is the slow roll into a new world where we watch hypersonic missiles slam into a populated metropolis.

48:08Piers Morgan:I mean, that's a terrifying prospect. I mean, is it really realistic that somebody would want to be the first to do that?

48:19Eric Weinstein:You know, I lived in Israel for two years and Har means mountain. And there's a place called Megiddo where there's a mountain. And Har Megiddo is where we get the word Armageddon. So Armageddon is just a turnoff in Israel. Yeah, we're on the clock. I mean, look, I get tired of being the only one saying this, but there is no fourth turning principle after 1952 when we have thermonuclear weapons. So the way it goes is hard times make strong men. strong men make good times and nuclear weapons. Good times make weak men, weak men and nuclear weapons make end times. And that's the end of it. And so we've been in the stasis for a really long time.

49:05Eric Weinstein:And, you know, the world has never, civilization has never ended due to thermonuclear warfare. So it's in no one's data set. So everyone who's data driven says, oh, I wouldn't worry so much about it, because they're just not getting it.

49:19Piers Morgan:Let's just talk about Israel briefly, Eric. Obviously, the war with Hamas continues. The scenes in Gaza are appalling. You know, a lot of people say to me, Jewish people, friends of mine, say there was a really disturbing escalation in anti-Semitism in the immediate aftermath of October 7th. It really kind of lifted a scab off anti-Semitism. And I remember it in my high street in London, where the next day thousands of people gathered, I thought, to, outside the Israeli embassy, to, I thought, support Israelis. But in fact, they were there to cheer and celebrate what had happened. It was the most disgusting thing to witness.

49:59Piers Morgan:But there's also, I think, a real danger that the Israeli government's conduct in the last few months in Gaza will increase the danger of rising anti-Semitism against Jewish people. because most moderate-minded people looking at it think this is now completely disproportionate, what is going on. There's no apparent endgame. They're listening to people like the finance minister Smodrich talking openly about cleansing Gaza of all Palestinians. And most people are coming around to the conclusion that this is just unacceptable, what is happening, and that the danger is it makes people hate Israel and therefore increases anti-Semitism.

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51:20Eric Weinstein:Well, first of all, as a strong Israel supporter, I've been upset with Netanyahu from the beginning for not understanding that he's doing Sinwar's bidding. So in some sense, I see Sinwar from the grave commanding Israel, saying, we think we can trick you into attacking our hospitals, our mosques, our people. and that Israel, not knowing how to counter hybrid warfare, is trying to go after this in a kinetic fashion. And when Palestinian Arabs say, we love death more than you love life, my feeling is nobody takes them seriously. I do. Uh, that said, you know, the issue is that, um, this is largely a, an issue of, um, who you, who you ascribe this to.

52:09Eric Weinstein:My feeling is, Sinoir was trying to generate video using the deaths of his own people, and he was willing to give his own life and the life of his family. It's a calculus that most, I don't know, Americans and people in the UK just can't understand that you would actually think that it's a huge win in which everyone you care about perishes. But the calculus in the Middle East is totally different. So in a certain sense, you know, my feeling about this is that right after October 7th, I said this is suicide by IDF. And IDF is dutifully playing that role. So I think you're just wrong, and I don't mean to be harsh about it, but I think you, to your credit, are gut-wrenched by the disgusting visual images of just destruction and death and severed limbs, everything.

53:00Eric Weinstein:The issue is that those accrue to Hamas, and what I'm upset with is that Netanyahu is not smarter in recognizing that he had to do different things. My feeling was that Israel needed to establish a calculus where every life was avenged with a change in the borders in which land, which is far more important to many of the terrorists in Gaza, was annexed day by day until the hostages were released. And that would have been far more effective. The other thing that's just very interesting is that Western Europe has taken a phrase that I think originally came from the Romanian language, it's very recent in origin, called ethnic cleansing.

53:49Eric Weinstein:Particularly, if you look in Google engrams, it spiked during the Balkan Wars. And it used to be that we understood that sometimes you have to move people who cannot live in peace. So this is why the Sudeten Germans, for example, were moved in Europe so that we didn't get into another European world war after the Potsdam agreements. So in part, what we have is we have a world that thinks in very simplistic concepts, forcing a two-state solution down the throats of Palestinian Arabs who are unequivocal, that this is just not something that they're interested in. And when they're chanting from the river to the sea, the idea is we're not listening to the will of the Palestinian Arabs.

54:36Eric Weinstein:And it is very clear that many of them have no idea a two-state solution is absolutely anathema and far less desirable than death and destruction. So partially the problem is that the Western mind has to upgrade for things that it has never considered, a calculus that is far different than when people are willing to give their lives. People believe in something beyond the ordinary calculus of incentives. And, you know, as a friend of mine who watched the end of the Troubles in Ireland said, there comes a moment when you stop making wall murals and singing songs to those killed, that people who are focused on the life beyond where their legend lives forever are motivated by very different things.

55:25Eric Weinstein:So I just, with all due respect, sir, my feeling is that the best of your nature causes you to be gut-wrenched. I absolutely agree with you that Netanyahu is doing the wrong thing. But ultimately, this bill, I don't send to Israel. I send it to the genius that is SINWAR.

55:42Piers Morgan:Let's just end, Eric. That was a fascinating answer, by the way. You said this. We seem to live in the age of conspiracy, but you said this. We have too much information. This is the problem. We're deranging ourselves, and we're completely undoing all the superstructure of the world. I feel that. You talk about the Israeli mass war. You talk about Ukraine. You talk about all these things. The constant overload of incredibly depressing, haunting imagery on our phones that people are consuming on a minute-by-minute basis was never available when I was young. You had no access to stuff like this.

56:23Piers Morgan:You had a sanitised version of the news in newspapers. You had certainly a sanitised version on television. There was no other way short of actually being there to see real horror. and yet every minute I look at my phone, there's some new horror that is flashing in front of me. And if you're a young, impressionable mind, it must be so damaging. You know, it's Jonathan Haidt's book about the sort of anxiety epidemic in the world. God is so right. It's these phones turn smart. Yes, they brought lots of smart things, but they also brought access to so much damaging imagery. Is that kind of what you were getting at with that quote?

57:07Eric Weinstein:It's an interesting point. You and I, I believe, are almost exactly the same age. And I grew up in a world in which the imagery came right through the evening news. The Vietnam reporting was unlike anything that Americans had ever seen. If you think about all the Pulitzer Prize-winning photographs from that era, a monk on fire, a street execution, children naked in the street from Napalm, etc., we were a much tougher people, Pierce. And that seems to have been lost. The other thing that was present when we were young was a world of adults, people who had been hardened in World War II, people who understood the stakes of the Cold War.

57:50Eric Weinstein:and there's something about the trivialization of war. I can tell you that one of the things that really bothered me is that I was in touch, I had just been in Tel Aviv and when I was talking to people in Tel Aviv, they could not actually synthesize a particular, I don't know, seriousness of purpose. They were on the beaches during the day, in the shelters during the night. They couldn't figure out that this was in some sense on the clock. They were having these hypersonic missiles slam into their city, and they were also continuing life as if it wasn't happening. The phone appears to be a different object than we understood it.

58:31Eric Weinstein:What it does is it not only gives us information, but it gives our lives a fictional video game feel. And at some level, we aren't taking seriously the gravity of the situation. even if we are living through it, we're simultaneously watching it out our window and on our phone, and somehow our brain is prioritising, oh, my God, this will make a great Instagram story.

58:55Piers Morgan:Yeah. You're spot on. Eric, I could talk to you for hours. Sadly, we've run out of time. Brilliant to have you back on Uncensored. Thank you very much. Piers Morgan Uncensored is proudly independent. The only boss around here is me. If you enjoy our show, we ask for only one simple thing. Hit subscribe on YouTube and follow Piers Morgan Uncensored on Spotify and Apple Podcasts. And in return, we will continue our mission to inform, irritate and entertain. And we'll do it all for free. Independent, uncensored media has never been more critical and we couldn't do it without you.

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