“YOU Funded Hamas!” Former Israel PM Reacts To Qatar PM Interview | With Ana Kasparian & Joe Kent

24:24So I think all countries should view the relationship with Qatar very cautiously. I do not think any American universities should accept funding from foreign governments. And let's be very clear. Israel does not fund American universities. Qatar does. And there's no doubt that Qatar has undue influence on academic programs at places like Columbia, Georgetown, and other universities which accept Qatari money and allow the Qatari money to determine who's on the faculty and what the programs are. That's the danger that I think exists with accepting Qatari money for American universities.

25:08Piers Morgan:But to be clear, you don't think Israel wields any influence like that whatsoever? Oh, no. Israel has very little influence. Indeed, it's quite negative. Today, when you want to win a Democratic primary, you have to come out against Israel. If you try to win a Democratic primary and are perceived as a Zionist, you lose the election. So today, Israel has little or no influence on American institutions, American elections, and American universities. Zero. Negative, in fact. Well, there would be, surely, Alan, a lot of very high net worth donors of money, Jewish donors, Israeli donors, to American universities.

25:52Piers Morgan:Should that stop? Well, yeah. You know, universities, Americans donate buildings. They name buildings after them. But they don't have an influence on curriculum. Look, I taught at Harvard for, it's now going to be 60 years with my emeritus. I have never seen any influence that donors, Israeli Zionists or Jewish Zionists, have on anything other than naming buildings. They don't have influence on the curriculum. They don't have influence on who the professors are. Qatar does. That's really quite a difference. All right. Joe Kent, welcome back to Uncensored. I wanted to play you a slightly different clip.

26:32Piers Morgan:This is where I was trying to imagine what it's like being the Qatari prime minister, trying to mediate at the moment between the Iranians and the Americans when you've got President Trump firing off, we're going to annihilate you posts every 10 minutes. So this is how I put the question to him. I can't even imagine how difficult your job must be right now as mediator in a war where you have the President of the United States, Donald Trump, firing off very incendiary posts in public on a regular basis, often threatening the annihilation of Iran. And you've got to deal with the Iranians and try and persuade them to do a deal with this guy.

27:13Piers Morgan:And they've also worked out that they can wage an asymmetric war by controlling the straight and foremost. Well, it's not an easy mediation, first of all. To put it mildly, Prime Minister. It's challenging. It comes with its challenges. It comes with, you know, a lot of times, efforts that we are doing. And, you know, we have a statement here and there. And by the way, we have also, there are in Iran politicians who are, you know, putting out inflammatory statements. That also sets us back. But at the end of the day, we are trying to keep focusing on the positive of this. And the closed-door diplomacy is the most effective way that we see in order to get some progress.

28:04Piers Morgan:Would it be easier for you and everyone involved in trying to get to a deal here, if the president cooled his jets on social media? Well, look, to be very fair, it will be easier, much easier for us if there is no media at all about this until we get to a solution. You know, he elaborated that, Joe, by saying that social media in particular is a new problem for any diplomats, politicians involved in secret mediation because everything gets leaked and then blasted through social media and stuff. What did you make of what he said there? I mean, would it be... I mean, look, the ongoing debate is does what Trump puts on his social media posts, is it helpful?

28:49Piers Morgan:Is it unhelpful? You know, this completely contrary, one minute there's going to be a deal, next minute we're going to annihilate you, this constant contradictory rhetoric. What do you make of that, given your background? Well, obviously, the Qatari prime minister there was being very diplomatic when he said that, you know, he didn't really want to answer the question. I think at this point, the most detrimental thing that we have done is attack Iran twice during negotiations and then continue to escalate while saying, you know, we also want negotiations. So not only are we hurting our credibility for the Iranians to get to the table with us, we're hurting the people that we're trying to use as mediators, like the Qataris.

29:31We're hurting basically at home as well, the Iranians that we're trying to work with who represent the remaining moderates there. So if we actually do want to get a deal, we do have to not just cool down the rhetoric, but we have to be willing to follow up on that rhetoric with action. So, so far, us attacking the Iranians twice during negotiations and then signing the MOU and then immediately getting out of the MOU, that has hurt our credibility, and that is going to result in erratic or aggressive behavior from the Iranians. And we're seeing that right now. We keep thinking that the Iranians are just going to remain static no matter what we do, no matter how many sanctions we throw at them, no matter how many attacks, no matter how much rhetoric we use.

30:08We think they'll remain static, but they continue to attack us. And right now, Iran, whether we like to admit it or not, they have a lot of escalation dominance. So this has put us in a very precarious situation in this war.

30:20Piers Morgan:Yeah, I mean, it's interesting, Joe, that when I spoke to you about the economic damage to Qatar since the start of the war, it's been really severe. There's hardly any of the liquid natural gas getting through the Strait of Hormuz, he said. And that is obviously a major part of their revenue. You know, Iran responded to an attack from the Israelis and Americans by attacking Qatar's biggest refinery and caused enormous damage. So they, like a lot of the Gulf states, have had real economic hardship to deal with here. And again, if you're America, this is one of your allies. This hosts thousands of your servicemen and women on its base there for you.

31:03Piers Morgan:And there they are getting, you know, attacked in a really bad and deliberate manner by Iran purely for the actions of the Americans. Yeah, and not just that. I mean, the whole reason why, you know, Qatar and the rest of the Gulf hosted these American bases for all this time was, in theory, the security guarantees that we provided. The theory was that if they were attacked, we would be able to not just defend our bases, but we would be able to defend them. Because we got into this war without putting a lot of forethought into what would happen, because we got into this war based on the Israelis' timeline, those security guarantees have been shattered.

31:41So we're pretty lucky right now that we still actually have partners in the Gulf who are willing to step in as mediators. So if we continue down this road of continued escalation, continuing the war, not only are we going to hurt ourselves, we're going to get more of our troops killed, our economy is going to suffer, but our allies in the region who at some point in time we're going to need again, they're going to be less likely and less inclined to come have our backs, to mediate for us, to host our bases, to host our troops, etc. So again, this is just yet another factor of why this war has just been so detrimental to us.

32:14And we need to recalibrate, take down the rhetoric, get our troops out of there before we lose anyone else, and then get to the negotiating table in a responsible way as fast as possible with the Iranians. I don't know if we can make that happen right now with this administration. I don't know if the Iranians trust us enough to have actual negotiations. That's why I think we should use the tools, the carrots of sanctions relief and the unfreezing of assets to get the Straits of Hormuz to open back up again.

32:37Piers Morgan:Yeah, Josh Hammer, welcome back to you. There was a very interesting moment I felt in the interview when I just asked the Qatari Prime Minister to his face, do you believe the new supreme leader, the new Ayatollah, is actually alive? Because this goes to the heart of who is America negotiating with, right? There's a lot of conjecture that since the Ayatollah, the dead Ayatollah was taken out by a lot of his top people, it's been quite hard to work out who has the power and authority, who actually has the ability to negotiate properly. And at the heart of that, of course, is the Ayas Tala's son actually alive?

33:13Piers Morgan:Now, he put a statement out, or a statement came out from him overnight, so they are certainly saying he's alive. But there's been no video pictures of him, no still pictures. So this is when I asked the Qatari Prime Minister that question. There's been no sign of the new Supreme Leader, the son of the slain supreme leader. Have you had any direct contact with him? Is he definitely alive? Are you actively engaged in discussion with him personally? No, actually, we didn't have any direct engagement with the new supreme leader. I don't think that there is any foreign government engaged with him, but whatever we are getting from our engagement with the Iranian officials, it comes also after a verification by the Supreme Leader, and this is at least what we've been told.

34:11Do you believe he's alive? I don't know. I believe what I hear as a mediator. I try just to be as objective as possible and to get to the results.

34:21Piers Morgan:That was a pretty extraordinary moment of the interview, I felt, Josh, because there you've got one of the key people in mediating a possible peace deal here saying he's had zero dealings with the new supreme leader of Iran. What do you feel about that and what may be going on behind the scenes here? Do you think he's alive or not? Yeah, so what I've openly speculated, and again, it's all just speculation that all of us here can do, I've said that he was probably severely injured, lacerated perhaps he had a a leg or a limb that that was severed something severe happened in the initial decapitation strike on february 28th that took out his father and i think that he has been in hospitalized and or potentially in a coma since then that's that's my guess i think that he has been severely injured and then that he is not functional physically or mentally intellectually he's probably in a coma since then but piers i do want to talk about the the broader issue here a bit of Qatar.

35:18Look, I think it would be easy to talk about the fact that, yes, they have had a Taliban presence for years. They've had an al-Qaeda presence for years. Yes, all the suits of Hamas are in these five-star luxury hotels, the Four Seasons in Doha. Frankly, also ISIS. In fact, it was actually the branch of ISIS that was responsible for beheading the American journalist Stephen Sotloff in Syria in 2014. That exact branch of ISIS did their banking and financial transactions out of an account in Doha. The longtime spiritual leader of the Muslim Brotherhood was a cleric by the name of Yusuf al-Kharadari.

35:52He lived in Doha for decades. Why was Israel treating al-Qaeda terrorists in their hospitals during the Syrian civil war? Why was Israel treating al-Qaeda terrorists in their hospitals during the Syrian war? Why was Israel treating al-Qaeda terrorists in their hospitals to answer that question?

36:11Piers Morgan:I would extrapolate that to, let's be clear, the new head of Syria is a former al-Qaeda terrorist, and he's welcomed as a guest at the Oval Office by President Trump. That's wrong, and I oppose that. Nelson Mandela was categorized as a terrorist by Margaret Thatcher, and we know what happened to him when he came out of prison. Things change, times change, the strategic importance of countries ebbs and flows, the way they treat different groups ebbs and flows. So I'm not sure that's a particularly effective stick to beat them with. Well, before I was cut off, the point that I was going to make, which I will now proceed to make, is the fault.

36:49Anna, for once in your life, just shut up and let other people talk. Okay. So, Piers, if I can actually get a word in here. What I was going to say is you don't want to take it from me. Well, let him finish the point, Anna, and then I'll come to you. Let him finish the point, then I'll come to you. You don't want to take it from me. You don't want to take it from not Tali Bennett, who I'm actually not a particularly big fan of, by the way, neither here nor there. You can actually take it from the other Arab countries in the region. For virtually the entirety of Donald Trump's first term, there was something that probably few on this panel even remember, known as the GCC crisis, the Gulf Cooperation Council crisis, whereby Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Bahrain, and maybe a couple of the other smaller states all had a full-on diplomatic and economic boycott of Qatar.

37:30Qatar was severely isolated by the non-ISMIS, non-Hamas, non-Muslim Brotherhood-supporting Arab states. The reason why? Because Qatar was doing and still is doing exactly what Naftali Bennett said they're doing, which is they are supporting and exporting Islamism, primarily through Al Jazeera, even more so than the universities. Al Jazeera, it is the entire reason that the Saudis now have the competing network, Al Arabiya. Al Jazeera is the voice of the Muslim Brotherhood. It was the voice of bin Laden back in the day. That is literally why the Saudis, Emirates and Bahrains blockaded and completely isolated this country for years and years and years.

38:05And to this day, Qatar has not changed their ways one iota. Yes, they have Allunate Air Base. Yes, they do a lot nominally for the United States, but because they can then put in their chips and say, look at us, you're so reliant on us. On the question of university funding, I think it's very simple, Piers. They're the number one funder, more than China, more than your country, the UK, France, Russia, whatever. The number one funder of American higher education since 9-11. Frankly, this is not a particularly difficult topic. It's actually very simple. Ask the simple question, qui bono? Who benefits?

38:36Who benefits from Qatar funding? They wouldn't do it if there's no return on investment. Obviously, Qatar benefits from that.

38:43Piers Morgan:Okay, that's a fair point, but let me ask you, then how do you feel about the$400 million plane that Qataris gave to President Trump? I oppose it. I oppose it since day one. I think it's terrible. Okay, Anna, let me play you a clip. This is where I asked the Prime Minister Qatar directly, and we think it's the first time he's responded with a clear, unequivocal statement about whether Netanyahu is a war criminal. Let's take a look. Do you think he's a war criminal, Benjamin Netanyahu? Well, of course, what's been committed in Gaza is war crimes. And whoever is responsible for this is a war criminal.

39:17So he is? Yes.

39:21Piers Morgan:Unequivocal, Netanyahu's a war criminal because he says, and he said it elsewhere in the interview, he believes he's waged a genocide in Gaza. How significant is it that you have the Prime Minister of Qatar now saying that publicly? I think it's the bare minimum, and I think that that region of the world is full of leaders who, for the most part, have been incredibly cowardly in the face of a genocidal terror state like Israel. And let me be very clear right now, we are not fighting a war on behalf of Qatar. We have not fought wars in the Middle East on behalf of any country other than Israel.

39:55Just between 2025 through August of this year, the Israel lobby has already spent close to$150 million on candidates, elections, basically buying our politicians and our political system. OK, I'm sorry. There are all sorts of military systems that American taxpayers were forced to pay into. And our researchers were forced to develop. Iron Beam is one example. And then you have the Arrow 2. military system. Both were totally created and funded for by the United States. And our Congress decided to vote to hand over the IP to both of those systems to the Israelis, who then sold it to some of our adversaries, according to the CIA, including China.

40:42The fact that we are allied with this country that's so thirsty for war, I mean, we're not even done with Iran yet. And they're already warmongering about Qatar and Turkey. When is enough enough, Josh? Can you please explain to me when are the Israelis, when are the Zionists done sucking the life out of this country on behalf of that tiny, irrelevant, war-thirsty country in the Middle East? Can you please explain that to me? We're like sitting here pretending like Qatar's the problem, please. It's so sick. It is so sick. But yeah, Benjamin Netanyahu, of course, is a war criminal, and he's not the only one in Israel who happens to be one.

41:17Piers Morgan:OK, Alan Dershowitz... There's no... There are no... Yeah, well, the question I'd ask you, Alan... There is no country... Go on, please. You answer. My point is that John Spencer, who's the head of West Point's study of urban warfare, has correctly said that no country in the history of warfare has ever done war to protect the civilians of enemy countries. Yeah, but unfortunately, Alan, Alan, unfortunately, I have to say, I have to jump in there. Don't insult our intelligence, please. He came on this show and he came up very short, unfortunately, because when I began to press him on specific numbers that he could use...

41:59Piers Morgan:Well, I'll give you specific numbers. Sorry, but he had no idea. He actually couldn't say how many civilians had died. All he knew was the ratio of combat to civilian was the greatest ever. I said, well, how do you know that if you don't know the number? Well, you do know the number because Hamas gives the number. Even if you take the Hamas false numbers, the ratio is approximately two and a half to one, which compares to a seven to one ratio for NATO and other Western countries. There's been no country in the history of urban warfare who has had a lower ratio of civilian to combatant deaths. And that's just a fact.

42:36And the idea that you call Israel a genocidal country when it has fed its enemies, inoculated its enemies, and protected its enemies, given hospital care for its enemies. It is just an anti-Semitic... It is just an anti-Semitic libel.

42:55Piers Morgan:Alan, when you saw the Google Earth images, and this showed the state of Gaza now, with 75 % to 80 % of the entire Gaza Strip just razed, gone, vaporized, whatever you want to call that, that is a systematic destruction of Gaza. I mean, you wouldn't dispute the categorization. I would. The destruction is a result of the fact that Gaza, that Hamas has used civilian houses and civilian tunnels in order to protect its terrorists. You wouldn't argue about the scale of destruction. The destruction is the fault of Hamas. Israel's mistake is it should never have declared war. Israel's mistake is it never should have declared war against...

43:47Piers Morgan:Let me ask you, Alan, do you feel, when you see those pictures... Alan. Oh, yes. You guys are so delusional. Absolutely delusional. Is destroying 80 % of the Gaza Strip a proportionate response to October 7th? That's the question. Absolutely. And, in fact, Israel's mistake is it should have declared war on Gaza the way the United States declared war on Germany. It didn't declare war on the Nazi Party. It declared war on Germany. Hamas is controlling all of Gaza. And many of the people who are in Hamas are controlling the people of Gaza. And so Israel is fighting a war against a nation, the nation of Gaza, that elected Hamas to be its leaders.

44:32And yes, Israel is destroying the capacity of Hamas to repeat October 7th, which it has promised it would repeat over and over and over again. And it has succeeded. Look, Jewish blood is no longer cheap the way it was during the Holocaust, the way it has been for many years. Israel is fighting back against its enemies, and its enemies are Hamas, and its enemies are the people who support Hamas and allow their houses to be used for terrorist tunnels.

45:05Piers Morgan:Yeah, that part is clearly, that's part of the problem. I agree. But let me come to Joe Kent. You know, the problem with all this is that Israel and pro-Israelis who come on my show, they all say this. They all say, we have to do this. It's going great. This is what we had to do. We're going to stop it. A, I don't think it's going to stop anything. I think when you have this kind of wholesale slaughter, we've seen in Gaza, in southern Lebanon, in, you know, wherever, you're going to make more enemies than you take out. And I think I read a report from the CIA, actually, a couple of months ago, saying they thought for every one Hamas terrorist who'd been killed, there may be five more had come through with the same ideology.

45:47Piers Morgan:So I don't really buy into the argument that Israel is... You can say the same thing about Nazi Germany. You could. You could say the same thing about Nazi Germany. No, we defeated Nazi Germany. Yeah, we did. And they didn't repeat their atrocities. And the same thing in Japan. And Israel is doing the same thing. I was about to say... I was about to say history will determine whether the same thing will happen here. I'm not convinced it will, but history will determine that. I don't know, obviously. What's the alternative? What's the alternative just to let them do it? Hang on. The point I made to Joe Kent is that notwithstanding this sort of impassioned defense of this from pro-Israeli guests I get, the reality is the longer this has gone on, the more that the Israelis have bombed Gaza, southern Lebanon, Iran...

46:34Piers Morgan:Syria. Syria. The more this has gone on, the more unpopular Israel has become around the world, in particular. And the stronger it's become. And the stronger it's become. Well, I'm not sure that becoming... And the stronger it's become. I'm not sure... And Israel has to rely on its strength. And not friends like Kasperian. Okay. Yeah. Let Joe respond, please. Kasperian. Let Joe respond. Get it right, old man. This is actually... This is a question for Joe. So, Joe, so there's the dilemma, isn't it, for Israel and Israelis. They're bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb. And maybe people think they're justified in a lot of the bombing.

47:11Piers Morgan:But it is making Israel increasingly a global pariah. When you respond to a terrorist attack like October 6th with a campaign, basically, of genocide and eradication, you are going to get more terrorism that blows back on you. That's going to happen to the Israelis. And because we are paying for this lock, stock and barrel, it will blow back on us. The vast majority of domestic terrorist attacks last year in 2025 that happened here in America, the perpetrators of those attacks, whether they were secular or whether they were Muslim, they cited the atrocities in Gaza for the reason that they conducted the attack here in America.

47:51The vast majority of terrorism we have experienced here in the homeland, there has been some reference to our support for the state of Israel and the way the state of Israel conducts themselves. Now, I took a lot of issue, Alan, with what you said. Hang on, hang on with what you said about Israel conducting themselves in a very, you know, civilized and methodical way inside Gaza. I fought in Fallujah. I fought in Ramadi. I fought in Ajaf. I spent the vast majority of my young life doing counterterrorism operations in urban environments. The U.S. military does not behave like the Israeli Defense Force.

48:26And for us to continue to fund the Israeli Defense Force while they commit genocide, while they kill and target civilians. Yes, doing counterterrorism operations in an urban environment. There will be some civilian casualties. This casual toss of the U.S. military is absolutely disgusting. And I had this whole back and forth for that stupid guest, Owen, whatever his name was last time I was on the show. It's absolutely appallingly disgusting. It's not genocide. We will have more terrorism that will blow back on us. You guys have no idea what you're talking about because you've never actually served.

48:58I think it's fascinating, Joe, that the former director of counterterrorism in the United States government is just taking what these terrorists are saying as their motivation. Josh, are you going to go? You're going to go saddle up? You can go on the list. Are you going to go on the list? Joe, first of all, you have no idea what I've been saying about the Iran war. I think it's been very, very mishandled essentially since the first ceasefire in April. So you have no idea what you're talking about on that. but I just think it's fascinating that the director of counterterrorism is just taking a point-blank term the subjective motivations that are stated by terrorists on this soil.

49:30I mean, in what other ways is the former American director of counterterrorism... Who are the terrorists on this soil? Is he just going to... Anna, your buddy here was actually just talking about it. Just answer the question, Josh. Don't all talk at once. Don't all talk at once. Please don't all talk at once.

49:46Piers Morgan:Josh, to be clear. Hang on. Don't all talk about it. Josh, to be clear, Joe Kent very patiently spelled out his service record fighting for the United States. Which is great. And that's honourable. In urban areas like Fallujah and others. And he said he's never seen American forces behaving the way that Israeli forces have done in Gaza. Look at the numbers. I would say that ought to give numbers. That ought to give two people on the panel to his right on this screen pause for thought, surely, that their pronouncements about just how humane the IDF has been in Gaza may not be the reality. If you've got a man of his experience...

50:28Piers Morgan:It is the reality. It is the reality. He says it isn't. Look at the numbers. The numbers... He says it isn't. Well, he's wrong. He knows the definition of genocide under the Diva conventions and basic facts like that. This isn't even a close case. This isn't even a close case for genocide. Anyone who uses the term genocide... Things are going so well in Gaza. Things are going so well in Gaza. A liar, a bigot, and defies reality. And won't let international journalists there. That's why. Everything's going so great. The journalists were Al Jazeera. They've got nothing to hide. The journalists were Hamas members.

50:55Piers Morgan:That's why they're carrying out all of that. Alan, Alan, you talk about lies. We know over 220-odd journalists have been killed in Gaza, of which it is supposedly there are up to 50 who may have... Many of those journalists, as you know, are not out of Gaza. Wait a minute. Let me finish my sentence, please. Yes, they're Hamas, right? It was Hamas' fault. Up to about 50 have been reported to have had links, however tenuous with Hamas. That leaves nearly 200 other journalists who didn't, right? So this idea that all the journalists in Gaza are Hamas operatives is a lie, a stinking lie. No, but they're working with Hamas.

51:34Piers Morgan:And actually, and the best way... Well, Alan, if I may, the best way to establish the truth about what war crimes have been committed or otherwise in Gaza, as I've repeatedly said on this show for several years now, is lift the ban on international journalists that Netanyahu has maintained... I agree with that. I agree with that. Let them in. I agree with that. Then we can work out just how small the IDF will be. I agree. But the longer they won't do it... I agree with that. The more I think they're hiding something. What they're hiding is the fact that many of the journalists work with Hamas and are Hamas members, And it's very hard to distinguish the Hamas members from the honest journalists.

52:16So they overreact. But I think they ought to allow all international journalists to go in and explore this. I'm not afraid of the truth. Israel has done a very good job in light of all the factors that they have to face. And in the end, history will prove that this war, this war, this attack on Iran is one of the most important preventions of a nuclear holocaust, much like what would have happened if the British and the French had invaded Germany in 1935 and prevented them from becoming the country that produced the holocaust. I've got to say... This war will go down in history as a positive step in preventing a nuclear holocaust, and I think history will look at it very positively.

53:04Piers Morgan:I've got to say, we've got to wrap up. I've got to say, I think history is going to record that this war was one of the biggest disasters that's ever been... Here's another question for you. ...that's ever been waged, and I think it will cost Netanyahu his job. I think it will cost Trump, the House... ...and the Senate in November. I might be wrong. And it would have cost... I might be wrong. It would have cost Winston Churchill. History will judge. History will judge. I'm just saying, I think it's been a fiasco. I think all the things Netanyahu told Trump would happen have not happened other than the first one of taking out the Ayatollah.

53:38Piers Morgan:I think it's quite clear. That's the most... No, no, they took out the nuclear... They set back the nuclear reactor. They set back the nuclear program. Talking to the... Yeah, but we were told last year we'd taken back their nuclear program decades. Remember the president of the United States after the 12 day war, we put back their program decades. Turned out we hadn't put it back eight months. Why do you believe all this? If it's put back two years or three years, that's a very positive development. If the Holocaust had been put back five years, 50 million lives would have been saved of innocent people who were killed by the Germans when their war could have been prevented.

54:18And Winston Churchill would have been attacked if he had engaged in a preventive war against Nazi Germany in 1935, and it would have been the best thing that could have happened. And I think this war will go down in history as a preventive war that stopped the nuclear holocaust.

54:34Piers Morgan:Okay. I think it will go down as a cataclysmic disaster that America should never have got involved in. But maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm wrong. History... History will judge. History is an honest broker. We'll all know, and we'll see how it plays out. Thank you to my panel. Very Spirit of the Bay. Thank you very much.

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