In short
Panel debate on rumors that President Donald Trump is gravely ill, after he was absent from news conferences for two days over Labor Day weekend and appeared with a bruised hand. Trump responds with an Oval Office press conference, calling the claims “fake news,” and announces the U.S. Space Command headquarters move to Huntsville, Alabama (“Rocket City”). Guests argue about media double standards, transparency, and whether health speculation is justified.
Guest backgrounds
Sean Spicer (former White House press secretary; host of The Sean Spicer Show). James Carville (Democratic strategist). Harry Sisson (Democrat influencer). Vincent Ashana (PBD podcast host; “angry patriot”). Piers Morgan (host).
Key claims
Spicer says the holiday weekend, golf photos, Truth Social activity, and a Daily Caller interview show Trump was seen and active; Carville alleges Trump confiscated medical records in 2017 (Keith Schiller, Dr. Barnstein). Sisson claims a double standard versus Biden’s health scrutiny and argues Trump’s health concerns are significant. Carville links the stakes to global diplomacy (Putin-Xi-Modi).
Notable examples
Trump’s golf appearances and granddaughter photo; the Daily Caller interview; mention of bruised hand; Biden’s alleged “clean bill of health” from Walter Reed; Carville’s 2017 medical-records anecdote; Space Command relocation details and Huntsville vs Colorado.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOSpeculation on Trump's Health
1:30 to 3:16
Discussion on the rumors surrounding Trump's health amidst his public appearances.
“Well, while we await the president, let's ask the panel what they've made of all this speculation.”
Panel Discussion on Health Claims
3:16 to 6:24
The panel discusses various claims regarding Trump's health and the media's role.
“OK, James Carville, your response to that?”
Discussion on Medical Records
6:24 to 8:07
A debate about Trump's medical records and the implications of their absence.
“LINE IS, THE BOTTOM LINE IS FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, HE'S BEEN seen by military government doctors who have given him a clean bill of health and put out his health records.”
Biden's Health Under Scrutiny
8:07 to 11:30
A discussion on Biden's health and the contrasting treatment by the media.
“Walter Reed are reliable because Joe Biden had a physical all four years of his presidency from doctors at Walter Reed, neurologists included, who'd conducted these examinations.”
Final Remarks on Health and Politics
11:30 to 14:00
A closing discussion on the political implications of health speculations.
“They're pretty well capable, from a political perspective, of doing anything, even if it made him look terrible.”
Trump's Health and Political Implications
14:00 to 20:19
The discussion revolves around Donald Trump's health and its potential impact on global politics.
“Secret Service said he pooped in his pants in front of the freaking Pope.”
Political Landscape and Future Elections
22:26 to 28:00
A heated debate on the future of the Democratic Party and the upcoming elections in key states.
“I believe that Mondami will be the mayor, and they will own that.”
Political Debate and Accusations
28:00 to 31:57
A heated discussion ensues about political parties, leadership, and policy issues, highlighting criticisms and defenses from both sides.
“You are cooked in 2020, because guess what, Piers?”
Press Conference Delays and Speculations
32:31 to 40:05
The conversation transitions to discussing the implications of a delayed press conference for Donald Trump, touching on media speculation and public perception.
“We're now 43 minutes late for this press conference.”
Health Rumors and Political Reactions
40:06 to 42:00
Discussion about health rumors surrounding Trump, his public appearances, and reactions from both supporters and critics.
“he is going to go down as one of the greatest presidents in the history of this country.”
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Addressing Health Speculations about Trump
42:00 to 44:22
Discussion on how the White House handled speculations regarding Trump's health.
“ONE, IT'S A BIT CREEPY THAT WE'RE STARING AT HIS HAND.”
Transcript
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0:30Piers Morgan:You find out over the weekend that you were dead. You see that? No. Last week I did numerous news conferences, all successful. And then I didn't do any for two days and they said there must be something wrong with him. I knew they were saying, like, is he OK? How's he feeling? What's wrong? No, I was very active this Labor Day. Rumors have swirled online for weeks that President Trump is gravely ill. The president's been unusually a bit more absent from the airwaves and the golf course recently. He's also sported a bruised hand in recent appearances, sparking frenzy speculation, which the White House says is the result of a benign condition.
1:09Piers Morgan:It's perfectly fair to inquire about the commander-in-chief's health, which is why some of us did it with a visibly ailing Biden. He was, of course, sharp as a tack, according to his team. Well, today Trump did what he normally does. He changed the subject, the president called an impromptu Oval Office press conference to discuss relocating the US Space Command. Joining me now is Vincent Ashana, PBD podcast host and self-styled angry patriot, Sean Spicer, the former White House press secretary, host of The Sean Spicer Show, Harry Sisson, the Democrat influencer, and the legendary Democrat strategist James Carville.
1:42Piers Morgan:Well, while we await the president, let's ask the panel what they've made of all this speculation. We'll start with you, Sean Spicer. Welcome back to Uncensored. A lot of feverish gossiping going on about the health or otherwise of President Trump. What do you make of it? There's no doubt he's been unusually quiet the last few days and unusually, by his standards, not very visible. That has merely fueled speculation. What do you make of it all? I think it's absolutely ridiculous. Look, there's a couple things that are facts in this situation. Number one, it was a holiday weekend in America, So a lot of people had downtime this weekend.
2:23He played golf, I think, every single day. The White House pool accompanies him to those situations. There was pictures of him playing. There was a picture of his granddaughter, Kai, with him. So we physically saw him. He did an extended interview an hour plus with the Daily Caller, Reagan Reese. It's out. You can see that. They posted it. They put pictures out of it. He was very active on Truth Social. So, I mean, look, after four years of being gaslit about issues with respect to President Biden, you don't see the guy during a holiday weekend here in the U.S., despite him being active on social media and on the golf course.
3:01And the media goes and creates speculation about his health. It was wrong. It's ridiculous. And I frankly find it shameful that outlets like CNN decided to actually consider it news. It just shows you that, I mean, these are the same people who covered up Joe Biden's mental and physical acuity and now run rampant with speculation with no basis of it, of fact.
3:25Piers Morgan:OK, James Carville, your response to that? Well, let me give you a fact, maybe you don't know. On January the 17th, in the year 2017, Donald Trump sent Keith Schiller and two goons into his internist office and confiscated his medical records. The internist, a gentleman by the name of Dr. Barnstein, said he felt like he had been raped. Where are those medical records? Produce them. Why did you have them stolen? Why did you do that? Answer the question. Oh, Joe Biden, he did this. There's something with Joe Biden. Joe Biden, noun of verb, but Joe Biden. That's all you can do. Where are the medical records?
4:00Piers Morgan:I mean, there's no doubt. If that was 2017, then he's... Yeah, but he's done pretty well to look as fit And then he has been for the next eight years, James, hasn't he? They're an underlying condition that's being treated. Why would you seize your own medical records? Well, in his last presidential annual physical report in April, if you compare the medication list to his old reports, there were three new medications noted. Rosuvastin, which is used for stroke prevention. as a Timibay, which treats high blood cholesterol, and a daily aspirin. There's nothing there that suggests a massive underlying problem.
4:46Piers Morgan:You may believe that. Have you ever asked to see the medical records that were confiscated? And your whole time in journalism, would you do that? Did you ever say, sir, could we see the records that you ordered confiscated from your own interns? No, you haven't. So you think... Well, I believe anything that the White House tells me, HE'S TAKING SOME HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE MEDICATION. JAMES, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, IT'S NOT THE WHITE HOUSE. THOSE ARE MILITARY OFFICERS. AND YOU HAVE SERVED. SO YOU'RE WELL AWARE. YOU'RE QUESTIONING THE INTEGRITY OF A NAVAL OFFICER AND WHETHER OR NOT THEY'D LIE ON IT. SO PLEASE DON'T GO THERE.
5:23I'M SORRY. DIDN'T YOU GUYS DO THAT WITH BIDEN'S MEDICAL REPORTS?
5:26Piers Morgan:LET ME GO THERE IN CASE YOU CAN'T HEAR. WHERE ARE THE MEDICAL RECORDS THAT WERE CONFISCATED AND WHAT WHAT UNDERLYING CONDITION DID THEY REVEAL? AND YOU CAN PUT SOMETHING IN A MEDICAL REPORT AND LEAVE SOMETHING OUT. AND BY THE WAY, I DO KNOW THIS, A NAVAL OFFICER IS IN THE CHAIN OF COMMAND. I HATE TO INFORM YOU THAT, BUT THEY ARE SUGGESTED TO THAT. I'M WELL AWARE, JAMES, OF THE CHAIN OF COMMAND WORK. SEAN SPICER, SEAN, WHEN YOU WERE TRUMP'S PRESS CHIEF IN THE FIRST TERM, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING THAT COME ACROSS YOUR DESK THAT SUGGESTED THERE WERE CONCERNS ABOUT HIS HEALTH OR ANYTHING BEHIND BEING KEPT QUIET?
6:07NOT AT ALL. AND I WAS IN REGULAR CONTACT WITH DR. JACKSON AT THE TIME. BUT I 'LL TELL YOU, I MEAN, I, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME, AND I 'VE HEARD EVERYTHING THAT YOU CAN POSSIBLY HEAR ABOUT DONALD TRUMP. I 'VE NEVER HEARD THIS ANECDOTE BEFORE ABOUT. NOR HAVE I, NO. GENUAL. SO, I MEAN, LOOK, IT'S INTERESTING. SO, I MEAN, LOOK, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS, THE BOTTOM LINE IS FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, HE'S BEEN seen by military government doctors who have given him a clean bill of health and put out his health records. So if there is an underlying condition, I'm not sure how you'd cover up for eight years.
6:37Piers Morgan:All right, Harry Sissons, the reality of this is that for a very long time, the Democrats, Democrat supporters, the Biden White House, the liberal skewed mainstream media, all presided over a mass cover-up of Joe Biden's actual health, which then came to light afterwards. Is this just a case of, well, you stuck it to us about our guy, we're going to stick it to you about your guy, even if there's very little substance for it? No, I don't necessarily think it's that. I think it's a combination of things. I think that folks like myself who supported President Biden just remember how people like Sean Spicer on this panel treated President Biden during his four years about his health.
7:24We don't forget that. We are remembering that. And it's just interesting to see someone like Sean hold a completely different standard. If Biden disappeared for a week, regardless of a holiday weekend, if he had bruises on his hands, swollen ankles, he's walking weird. He has this weird clips where he can't even identify the president of Finland who's sitting in front of him. I imagine that Sean would be on your show calling for Biden to do a press conference right now for medical records to be released. But since it's Donald Trump, well, Sean says, well, you know, it's a holiday weekend. he's off.
7:50The guy who says he works 24-7, he's taking a holiday weekend off, and he's playing golf. So I just find the double standard to be remarkable, but the facts remain. There are significant concerns surrounding Donald Trump's health, and I'm also really happy to hear people on this panel like you, Piers, and Sean saying that the medical records produced by doctors from Walter Reed are reliable because Joe Biden had a physical all four years of his presidency from doctors at Walter Reed, neurologists included, who'd conducted these examinations. And in every single report, he had a clean bill of health.
8:22There was no concern. How was it then? No, nothing. Okay.
8:25Piers Morgan:But Harry, how was it then if they were being completely honest that the moment he was out of office, he revealed he had advanced cancer? Well, Piers, I mean, the type of cancer that President Biden has is notoriously in the United States and around the world, one of the most fatal for men. The reason being not because it can't be treated, but because it's incredibly hard to detect. That's why it's often caught at stage three and stage four as it was for President Biden. It's not hard to detect until the President of the United States having regular medicals. It's not. Cancer affects every person in the same way and in different ways.
8:59So you're saying Joe Biden, the moment he was out of office,
9:04Piers Morgan:announces he has quite advanced aggressive cancer. But your argument is that right to that point, nobody in his medical team would have had any ability to reveal it. Yes, Pierce, because prostate cancer is incredibly hard to detect. Anybody can, you can fact check me if you want. You can look this up. That's why it's one of the top five killers of men in the United States in regards to cancer. And just think about what you're arguing for here when you're saying something like this. is the claim that Joe Biden had cancer when he was in the Oval Office, and they just hid it. They didn't provide him treatment.
9:38They let him die just so he can stay in. Really? I mean, you really think that the... You really think that... Okay, I mean, now we're on QAnon level.
9:45Piers Morgan:They hid his obvious onset of dementia. Guys, guys, guys. So why not? We're going QAnon-level conspiracy here. Really? We think that Joe Biden had cancer. He knew he had cancer. His family had cancer. His family, who, by the way, have suffered a tremendous amount of loss through their life, right? This family who has suffered greatly, you think that they're going to let Joe Biden just suffer with cancer and not try to get treatment, not try to do chemotherapy or anything? I think that anyone... Guys, guys, come on. You're talking about the same family who allowed him to continue... Piers, this is...
10:16Piers Morgan:Well, hang on. You're talking about the same family who allowed Joe Biden in that last year of his presidency to end up on a debate stage when they all knew he would humiliate himself. US national debt is more than$37 trillion. These are uncertain times for the global economy. It's enough to make you think, maybe now would be a good time to buy some gold. Whether it's a hedge against inflation, peace of mind during global instability, or just sensible diversification, Birch Gold Group believes that every American should own physical gold. They've created something special. Until the 30th of September, if you're a first-time buyer, Birch Gold is offering a rebate of up to$10 ,000 in free metals on qualifying purchases.
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11:53Piers Morgan:So I've got no problem with Trump's health being scrutinised. I think it's perfectly reasonable. But all this stuff about, you know, Trump's dead and all these things trending and so on, when he's literally out there playing golf, I played golf yesterday, and you cannot play golf if you're dead. You can't play golf if you're seriously ill, actually, because it's a more arduous sport than people think. You have to walk four, five miles, or you get in a car and you have to walk around and play shots and so on. You can't really do that if you're seriously ill.
12:25I WANT TO SAY BEFORE I START, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME ON. IT'S ALWAYS A PLEASURE. I SAW YOU ON VACATION. I SEE YOUR TAN. YOU LOOK SEXY. LIKE, PIERS, YOU LOOK LIKE THE INTERNATIONAL MAN OF MYSTERY. I AM BASTING WITH GOOD HEALTH. THEY SHOULD CONSIDER GETTING YOU. BUT THAT ASIDE, IT JUST MAKES ME LAUGH. SITTING HERE LISTENING TO PEOPLE LIKE HARRY AND ALL DUE RESPECT, JAMES. HARRY, WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE, BROUGHT. WE KNOW EXACTLY WHO YOU ARE. YOU ARE A SHILL FOR THE LEFT. YOU ARE GLAZING FOR BIDEN FOR all those years, all of a sudden, oh, now, oh, they wouldn't lie. They wouldn't lie. His son isn't a crackhead.
12:59The cocaine in the White House is this. You are the biggest cheerleader for how his mental acuity— Hold on. I'm going to show you. You're like going all over the place. You are the biggest cheerleader for Joe Biden as if he was—Terry, you didn't know that Biden wasn't in his right mind for the four years. You're full of shit. You know it. We know it. You're a shill for the left. You get paid to do what you do. You're a paid propagandist. number one. Number two, Piers. I think it's just funny that Piers asked you an entirely different question and you just started going after me. Harry, you had your chance.
13:29Harry, do me a favor. Talk about bad health. This guy looks like a tomato right now, dude. He looks like 90 years old. He looks like as red as a tomato. Let me say my point. Piers, the left would want nothing more than Trump to be gone. They would celebrate. If he died and had a heart attack, they'd be in the streets parading because Hitler's dead. Let's not play pretend. Okay, Pierce? And guess what? These guys, just like Harry, ran cover for Biden. You want to talk about the family didn't know? He was falling up and downstairs, shaking hands with people that weren't there. Secret Service said he pooped in his pants in front of the freaking Pope.
14:05So don't give me that crap. Okay, let's just be honest, Pierce. Pierce, let's be honest. Donald Trump, it's not a secret. He drinks Diet Coke. He eats Big Macs. He's not in great shape. But you know what is in great shape? The United States of America, Piers. We are back. Wow, what a spin. Holy shit, what a spin. Go ahead and name it. The border. Hey, Harry. Look, Piers just laughed. Because Piers just laughed because he recognizes this crazy spin right now. Harry, do me a favor. Harry, you are a walking meme. Harry, you're a walking meme. Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. Everybody that's at home, go on any social media, put Harry Sisson.
14:42You're a joke. You're a walking hypocrite. OK, well, look, OK. You're fake as hell. Look, I mean, I just... Let me just... Hang on, Harry.
14:50Piers Morgan:I want to ask James. I mean, look, there's no... The fact we're talking now, we're half an hour past the time, 30 minutes past the time that this press conference was supposed to start, which in itself is a bit weird. But, you know, this may all be absolutely nothing, James Carville, but why it's serious, I think, is that as this is all unfurling, all this gossiping about Trump's health and so on, You've got, separately, you've got Putin with Xi and Modi all getting together. There's a new kind of world order that's happening right in front of our eyes. So, actually, the health of the President of the United States is pretty vital right now.
15:30Piers Morgan:What do you make of what is happening with those three? What's happening is, at the turn of this century, it was believed incorrectly that the United States was the most dominant nation vis -à-vis the rest of the world. SINCE ANCHOR ROME. WELL, THAT'S NOT THE CASE ANYMORE. TRUMP HAS NO IDEA WHAT HE'S DOING. HE ACTUALLY THOUGHT HE WAS GOING TO GET SOME KIND OF DEAL. OF COURSE HE DIDN'T. OF COURSE WE HAVE CHINA, 1.4 BILLION PEOPLE, INDIA, 1.4 BILLION PEOPLE, AND PUTIN DOING PHOTO OPS. WHAT A CATASTROPHE. AND ALL THESE MOTORMAUS DO IS DADA LEFT AND THAT LEFT AND THIS AND THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS DUDE KNOWS WHO I AM, TALKING ABOUT ME covering up for Biden.
16:13Piers Morgan:Yeah, you're the guy that has Trump arrangement syndrome. The country's not doing great, James. James, is the country in shambles? Does the country respect? Are we on the world stage respected finally? You don't know. I don't need to know who you are. By the way, that's why the Democratic Party is in shambles, James. You have no political perspective. No political beliefs. The Democratic Piers, I have to say this. Why is the Democratic Party at a 35-year low of approval? It's because of people like you and Harry, okay? You know you don't have to scream, right? We can hear you. Oh, my God. The party sucks.
16:50Wait, wait, wait. Just to be clear. Wait, just to be clear throughout. The party's in shambles. Yeah, yeah, okay, go ahead. Get it out. Get the anger out. I got it. I understand you're very heated right now. Just to be clear throughout this, like, 20. Harry, Harry, why'd you guys - Are you still going? Okay, go ahead. Everybody let him have his temper tantrum. Why is your approval rating low?
17:06Piers Morgan:I mean, the reason - Harry, there is a valid question there. The Democrats have never historically been this unpopular. Yeah, you can, James. When's the last time a Democrat's lost an election since Trump's been president? May I answer it? Did you watch? The Democrats are over-performing by over 15 points. We're on for a bet in Virginia. I'm spotting you five points. You're going to lose, Piers. You're going to lose bad. I've already ordered my state when you lose, James. Who? Letting all these motor mouths. You're getting ready to get stomped. You're going to get stomped in Virginia, you're going to get stomped in New Jersey, and you're going to get stomped in New Jersey.
17:45Piers Morgan:But James, James, just hang on. On that point, hang on, hang on, hang on, guys. James. The BAPS zone. But James, there is no doubt that the polling shows the Democrat Party has never been so unpopular. That is a fact. What do you look at? Polls are election returns. So we have deemed ourselves that election returns no longer matter in the United States. We're just going to talk about polls. Look at every election. Look at what's getting ready to happen. Harry, you take from here. You can handle these people. No, you know, James, if there's anybody here that can really dispose of these freaks, it's you.
18:22But I appreciate the honor. I just had to say that. Am I one of the freaks? This is what you're talking about. Am I one of the freaks? No, no, no, no, Pierce, you're not one of the freaks. I like you, Pierce. I like you. We have good conversations. This guy over there here who looks like a tomato actually looks like he's about to explode right now. I mean, this guy is on fire. He's raging. Throughout the 20-minute look at him, he's going to do it again. He's going to do it again. Look, throughout the entire 20-minute conversation we've had so far on our show, he has not outlined a single political belief.
18:50He has not outlined a single political belief. That's Harry Sisson. Harry, you're the guy that was coercing 11 girls to send you nudes on Snapchat. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Wasn't that you allegedly in the news? No, no, no. Was that you in the news? It wasn't me actually. You're the champion for women. It wasn't me actually. You're the champion for women. You're a scumbag. Yeah, yeah. You're a scumbag, Harry. Do you wanna keep raging right now? Look at you. You're a scumbag. Your face has turned color since you've got onto the show, by the way. Your face has changed colors. Yeah, I just got back from vacation too.
19:18No, you're screaming. You have no substance. And do me a favor. Hey, Harry. Hey, Harry and James, who's gonna be your front runner for 2028? Who's your front runner? Gavin Newsom or Pete Buttigieg? Who's gonna run? Kamala? You both said Kamala was going to win. You both said Kamala was going to win. Shall we try and get things back on a more even kill? Let me bring in Sean again.
19:40Piers Morgan:Let me bring in Sean again. Sean, I mean, James Carville's very confident that notwithstanding the record low polling for the Democrat Party, that the forthcoming battle at the ballot box is going to be a nasty shock for Republicans, as it often historically is, right, in between general elections. What is your view of that? Well, there's four major contests on the ballot. You've got California, which is doing a redistricting thing, that Gavin Newsom put forward. I think that's going to go down. They won't pass that through, and Republicans will net between seven and ten seats in redistricting.
20:16So that's going to be an abject failure for the Democrats.
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22:32You've got New York. I believe that Mondami will be the mayor, and they will own that. They will own the policies of Zoran Mondami, and that's great. So Republicans have 13 % of the vote in New York City. I don't think we have a shot there, but I will think that the outcome of that will be something that every Democrat will have to answer for. IN NEW JERSEY, REPUBLICANS ARE GOING TO DO A LOT BETTER THAN THEY EVER HAVE HISTORICALLY. RIGHT NOW, I KNOW JAMES DOESN'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT POLLS, BUT YOU DEFINITELY HAVE THAT WITHIN A SINGLE-DIGIT CONTEST RIGHT NOW FOR GOVERNOR. AND THEN IN VIRGINIA, WE 'VE GOT THREE RACES RIGHT NOW.
23:02I THINK IT'S A LOT CLOSER THAN PEOPLE THINK. I THINK WINSOME SEARS HAS A REAL SHOT OF PULLING THIS THING OUT. I'D TAKE JAMES'S BET, BY THE WAY. IF HE WANTS TO SPOT FIVE POINTS, I 'LL TAKE IT. ALL RIGHT. HOW MUCH? I'M GIVING YOU FIVE POINTS, YOU'RE ON. I'M GIVING YOU FIVE POINTS, YOU'RE ON.
23:15Piers Morgan:I'M GIVING YOU FIVE POINTS, YOU'RE ON. I'M GIVING YOU FIVE POINTS, YOU'RE ON FOR A DIME. TO A GAMBLER, THAT'S$1 ,000. YOU'RE ON. I'M NOT AS BIG OF A GAMBLER. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO SHOCK PEOPLE. OKAY. CONSIDERING THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THE DEMOCRATS ARE POURING INTO VIRGINIA. Yeah, do you want to do all three races? All three races or just the governor's? What? I'm talking about the governor's race. I'm spotting you five points. I'm giving you five. So if she wins 52-48, you win! I know, actually. I can lose by five, yeah. We got a bet. Yeah, good, I'm for it. I'm good. Got a bet with Pierce, too.
24:02Piers Morgan:There you go. I've got one with this you want to do. But here's the thing, Pierce, it's important. When you get beyond the talking point, as I said, I just went through the four major races that are on the ballot this year. I don't think Republicans have anything to be ashamed of. We're going to do very well. They're going to lose that ballot initiative in California. The Democrats are going to own a socialist in New York. And then in New Jersey, Republicans have a good shot of winning that race. And at the very least, we're going to keep it within single digits, which should be scary for every Democrat out there thinking that New Jersey is now a potential purple state.
24:34And in Virginia, yeah, I think we're going to keep it a lot closer and probably pull this thing out at the end.
24:39Piers Morgan:Harry Sissons, how is the Democrat Party going to align itself going forward? I mean, Mamdani is running away with it in New York and great for him. But, you know, the party will have to own the fact you've got a pretty socialist guy then as New York mayor. OK, they're going to defend that. But is that an indication of where the party thinks it should be going to actually win back power? The name of it is the Democratic Party, not the Democrat Party. A person from the UK that values language and exactness, a political party has a right to be called what it wants to be called. My apologies. You should, again, you should call it the Democratic Party.
25:23Piers Morgan:I've just apologised. I've apologised for my linguistic error. It is, of course, the Democratic Party. Thank you, Mr Carville, for pointing out my mistake. And I'm big enough to admit when I'm wrong. OK, thank you. So, Harry, the Democratic Party, which has currently never been more unpopular, appears to be veering sharp left. Is that really a smart move if you want to win a general election in the next general election? What has a greater population? New York City or the combined population of Virginia and New Jersey? I happen to know the answer. OK. It's by far the combined population of Virginia and New Jersey.
26:04Piers Morgan:See, when you just take a fact, this, we've got to do this, but we're not going to pay attention to that. We're just going to talk about this, all right? So I want to talk about this and I want to talk about that. OK, but my question, James... Hang on, James, my question, though... OK, we're going to... Again... Can the Democratic... Can the Democratic Party, and I will emphasize it, can a Democratic Party win with a Mandani-style agenda or not? I'm not for a Mandani-style agenda, but let's see how he governs. We can win on what his primary talking point is, and that's the cost of living. And by the way, Donald Trump said he was going to get it down from day one, and we're going to have peace in Ukraine on day one.
26:44Piers Morgan:What day are we on? What world is he living in? All right, I wouldn't worry too much. And, you know, there's a lot, you know, one thing in the Democratic Party, there's diversity, diversity of thought all across the board. But you can't look, you can't look at one thing and make an overwhelming conclusion. And by the way, we're going to nominate a president in 2028. It's going to be a pretty talented person, whoever it is. So I'm not concerned even about that. Oh, yeah. I know. I'm 26. Gavin Newsom. Gavin Newsom, because he's doing such a great job in California. Oh, by the way, because you asked, Piers, the Democratic Party, Democrat, whatever it is, what are your morals?
27:25What is your... What are you going to do different? What's your policies? Because, Piers, I wrote a couple down. Mutilating gender ideology for kids, puberty blockers, hormone treatment, defund the police. Mom Donnie wants that. Letting illegals come in to rape and murder our freaking daughters. weaponizing the DOJ and the FBI. I want to know, James, what is going to be your message? What is going to be so different that, mind you, Piers, the Republican bench, let me finish, the Republican bench is deep, and it's filled with some ex-Democrats. RFK, Kelsey Gabbard, Eric Trump, Marco Rubio, J.D.
28:01Vance. Guys, and you guys want to make a bet? You are cooked in 2020, because guess what, Piers? God forbid something does happen to the president, we're going to be fine. We're going to be fine because people are waking up to the crap that is coming out of these people's mouths. You have no message. You have no leader. With his 38 % approval rating, for sure. You guys will be just good. Harry, you are a joke. 38 % approval rating. You are a meme. 38 % approval rating. 38 % approval rating. You guys are just great. You're just great. You and your 38 % approval rating. Let the walking, talking meme respond.
28:31Nobody takes you serious. Go, cat, go. Yeah, yeah. Nobody takes you serious. Well, Pierce, I don't think that name should stick, actually. Nobody takes you serious. Well, I quite like the idea of you being a walking, talking meme.
28:39Piers Morgan:But, Vinny, let the walking, talking meme. You really are. Harry, you're a walking, talking meme. Respond. I promise you this cannot stick. It cannot stick. I promise one thing. Look, there's nothing to even respond to when he speaks. All he does is just like scream. And he obviously just provided a list of like democratic priorities, which are a complete straw man. Like, I actually don't know this guy's name, but you have absolutely no nuance in how you evaluate politics. You're not here for an educated conversation. So tell me what your party stands for. Hold on, hold on, just be quiet for a second.
29:10What's your party stand for? I'm happy to answer if you just stop screaming for five seconds. We can all hear you, I promise. We can definitely hear you. You know, at least Sean, who I have plenty of disagreements with, I'm doing it right now. At least Sean, who I have plenty of disagreements with, has come on here and been very respectful. He's, you know, articulated his position. We have disagreements. That's perfectly fine. You're on here just screaming your face off. Now, let me tell you what the Democratic Party stands for. Build more housing, abundance. We want more houses to have more people in, and studies show time after time that if you build more housing, rent comes down, right?
29:41That's number one. Number two, economic prosperity, opening up more job opportunities, investing in America like Joe Biden did with the Chips and Science Act, which, by the way, Donald Trump is going out there and bragging about. But in reality, it's the money that came from Joe Biden's bill that did that. Investing here, investing in technology of the future. And that includes I know this is big and scary for you, but renewable energy. That's one of the fastest growing sectors in America. It's providing well-paying jobs. China's currently beating us at it. And Donald Trump made it worse by defunding these things.
30:08Let's invest in America. Let's build more housing. And let's also just care for people. Let's stop kidnapping people off the street in masks, throwing them into vans. Let's get back to constitutional due process, which, you know, 10, 20 years ago, you might think the Republican Party stands for. But today you're going to come on here after I after I finish and you're going to scream. Donald Trump's not doing that. Donald Trump's not doing that. After judge, after judge, after judge appointed by Reagan, Bush, Trump have said Donald Trump has violated X, Y and Z's due process. So we, the Democratic Party, actually do stand for the Constitution.
30:39We stand for affordability. We want to make the economy more fair for people. You just come on here and scream your face off about culture war issues that don't exist. Neither James Carville nor I will say we think 10-year-olds should be having their genitalia cut off. But you live in a bubble where you think that actually is the reality. You cannot have an informed political discussion with someone like me or James Carville. Harry, tell me if I'm telling the truth. And you can't take the example that Sean Spicer has set for you today and be an adult. Be an adult. That's all I ask. Hey, listen, Harry, if anybody's talking about examples, so are you going to sit there and tell me?
31:09your Democratic messages build more houses. You are the one, you, for four years saying everything was good under Biden, inflation, the border. So Harry, as a Democrat, would you open up, would you revert the border and open it up and bring all the illegals in? Is that what you would do? Because that's what your party did. That's what Alejandro Mayorkas did. And you never said, hey, excuse me, I let you talk. Now this is why I scream, because you want to talk over me. So shut your ass up, all right? You guys left the border open. and freaking Americans were freaking killed. You're a grown man behaving like this.
31:41It's remarkable. Fentanyl, how many people were killed? Because see, you have no argument because you got to talk shit. Let me finish. How many Americans died of fentanyl? How many Americans, how many women, how many illegals, how many illegals were?
31:56Piers Morgan:Let me bring in Sean Spicer. Please bring in Sean Spicer. You're a joke. Please bring in Sean Spicer. Sean. Hey, Chicago. Class it up with Crocs. You know back to school is coming in fast. So why wait to find your new fave footwear? Step into a local croc store and step into your new look. Try it. Style it. Make it yours. Because the right pair doesn't just show up. It shows off. First day fits handled. Walk out ready for whatever's next. Visit your nearest croc store today. We speak. We're now 43 minutes late for this press conference. It was heralded to be at 2 p.m. Eastern. What was going on there, do you think?
32:39Well, look, I think we're going to find out in terms of what the substance is. This is not that unusual. I was a guy that held several of these briefings and coordinated several of these announcements. A lot of times, part of what happens is you've got additional things that want to get said or coordinated. I know that we all know that at least the belief is that this is all about the Space Force headquarters moving from Colorado to Alabama. BUT THERE'S A POTENTIAL OTHER PERSONNEL ANNOUNCEMENTS AND OTHER ISSUES THAT ARE IN FRONT OF THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE. THERE'S A LOT OF CRIME ISSUES. AND SO AS YOU'RE GETTING READY, AS I WOULD BRIEF THE PRESIDENT IN THE PAST, YOU 'VE GOT A LOT OF POLICY PEOPLE IN THE OVAL OFFICE IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE.
33:17AND THERE ARE PROBABLY PEOPLE WHO ARE ASKING THE PRESIDENT, CAN YOU BRING UP MY ISSUE? CAN YOU TALK ABOUT CRIME IN D.C.? WHAT ARE WE DOING ABOUT ILLINOIS? BUT AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE BEING discussed ahead of the president addressing the media and them coming into the Oval Office. And so that's number one. Number two, what you've also got to recognize, Piers, and I don't know this because I'm not looking at my phone while we do this.
33:38Piers Morgan:I'm actually just doing this to check what's happening. Okay, I was going to say, because one of the things that is, while the president will announce that it's at two o 'clock, the pool will come in, film it, and then leave and air it. So in a two o 'clock event, sometimes it doesn't actually get aired until 2.30, 2.45. So we could literally, it could be happening right now, the pool will come in, cover the event, come out, and then feed it out to the other networks. So there's plenty of times when a live event isn't actually happening in real time. It's the media that comes in, captures the event, and then sends it out.
34:11Piers Morgan:So I'm looking at something here where Scott Jennings, who does, I have to say, a formidable job as the kind of token conservative on CNN, Trump has phoned into him amidst the health rumors. I'm missing to it now. So this is this morning. So that's this morning. So, you know, he is conducting some media. He is playing a bit of sport and so on. But, of course, if you're 45 minutes late for a press conference when everyone is speculating that you're dead, which is obviously ludicrous, but if you are 45 minutes late, it would only fuel the rumours, won't it, Harry? Not that you're dead, but there's something wrong.
34:51Piers Morgan:Harry, you're muted, which many people would like to hear. I'm so sorry. Many people know it. Oh, God, you're back. Oh, God, you're back. Okay, you can't take Piers' joke and then make it your own. It was funny when he said it, not funny when he said it. Harry, please, please, please, just hurry up. Jeez, Louise, anyway, anyway. Just hurry up, please, Harry. I'm happy to... Just stop screaming your face off. Relax, it's okay. You're a grown adult. Just go, please, Harry. Yeah, I mean, Piers, I think you're... Hurry up, bro. Right, right, right. Piers, I think you're objectively right, regardless of political belief.
35:17Like, if this is the press conference that is supposed to be billed as the meeting that is going to convince people that you're healthy, being 45 minutes late is on its face concerning. Now, as Sean outlined, there could be things happening behind the scenes that could be taking place right now. We have no idea. So I'm not one to, like, dive into conspiracy. I don't really want to speculate on, like, oh, you know, Trump had a stroke and now he's not coming for the thing. I'm not about that. I think there could be something happening, but, you know, things come up in the president's life. I mean, the various things we've heard is that the Department
35:44Piers Morgan:of Defence may be renamed Department of War. There's the theory that Sean put forward about the movement of the... In fact, Sean, just explain the significance of the... All right, so the Poole report right now says that at 2.40, which is seven minutes ago, they moved into the Oval. So the press has assembled in the Oval Office as of 2.40, according to the Washington Bureau Chief of the Los Angeles Times. Yeah, and the movement of the military base, I think you were alluding to, what is the significance of that? SO, SPACE FORCE, WHICH WAS CREATED IN TRUMP'S FIRST TERM, WAS INITIALLY, PRESIDENT TRUMP HAD PUT IT, HAD SAID IT WAS GOING TO BE IN HUNTSVILLE, ALABAMA.
36:27THERE'S A LOT OF ASSETS THERE THAT HAD ALREADY EXISTED. THERE'S AN ARSENAL DOWN IN ALABAMA. COLORADO MADE A PLAY FOR IT BASED ON SOME EXISTING HEADQUARTER ASSETS THAT WERE THERE, MOSTLY TEMPORARY. BIDEN PUSHED IT TO COLORADO. A FINAL DECISION HAS NEVER BEEN MADE. I THINK WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN as Trump will officially move it to Huntsville, Alabama. This is big for, obviously, jobs, right? So the one thing I would say just from a policy standpoint is Biden's secretary of the Air Force at the time did agree that it was both cheaper and more advantageous for Huntsville to be the home of Space Force.
37:02Okay. There's a lot of financial aspects of jobs.
37:05Piers Morgan:because we think the president has now arrived. Let's just take a little listen to some of this. And so I want to thank you all for being here for this important announcement, seven years in the making. As you know, this has been going on for a long period of time, and I am thrilled to report that the U.S. Space Command headquarters will move to the beautiful locale of a place called Huntsville, Alabama, forever to be known from this point forward as Rocket City. Something completely different, but about a big viral social media trend over the weekend. How did you find out over the weekend that you were dead?
37:46Piers Morgan:Did you see that? The President Trump No. The Press. The President People didn't see you for a couple days. 1.3 million user engagements as of Saturday morning about your demise. The President Trump Really? I didn't see that. You know, I have heard it's sort of crazy. But last week, I did numerous news conferences, all successful. They went very well. Like, this is going very well. And then I didn't do any for two days. And they said, there must be something wrong with him. Biden wouldn't do him for months. You wouldn't see him. And nobody ever said there was ever anything wrong with him. And we know he wasn't in the greatest of shape.
38:18No, I heard that. I get reports. Now, you knew I did an interview that lasted for about an hour and a half with somebody and everybody. So that was on one of your competitors. I did numerous shows and also did a number of truths, long truths, I think pretty poignant truths. No, I was very active over the weekend. They also knew I went out to visit some people at the at the club that I own pretty nearby on the Potomac River. And now I've been very active actually over the weekend. I didn't hear that one. That's pretty serious. The Press. The Press. The President. The President. The President. Well, it's fake news.
38:53You know, it's just so it's so fake. That's why the media has so little credibility. I didn't I knew they were saying like, is he okay? How's he feeling? What's wrong? I said I just left. And it's also sort of a longer weekend, you know. It's Labor Day weekend, so I would say a lot of people know. I was very active this Labor Day.
39:13Piers Morgan:So that was the President of the United States. We've lost James Carville. Obviously, he wasn't going to hang around. Piers, he's probably crying. He's probably crying because he's okay. He's probably pissed off that the President's okay. A lot of these people, Piers, I'm telling you right now, I am... Look at... Piers, can I say one thing? 80 years old has been going... Hey, Harry, please just be a child and just shut your mouth for a second. I haven't said a word. I haven't said a word. This guy is 80 years old, is almost 80 years old. For the past 10 years, Piers, all he's been doing is going for America 100%, regardless of the spying, the Russia bullshit, Obama's DOJ spying, from Hillary Clinton with the fake freaking, all the bullshit that they did for all the years, the fake impeachments, all the lawfare, and look at him.
39:57He finally takes a couple days off. He finally shows that he's human, and these people are like, oh, my God, he might be dead. It's like, bro, shut up, all right? Donald Trump, if he keeps going, Piers, for three more years, he is going to go down as one of the greatest presidents in the history of this country. Period. End of story. Full stop.
40:15Piers Morgan:Well, the one question I have for Harry is... Yeah, Harry, are you going to have a... Harry, are you pleased to see President Trump looking so apparently well and healthy? Well, can I just... I want to... Yes, I never wish death on Donald Trump. So you're pleased he looks healthy? Yeah, I don't want Donald... I don't want Donald Trump to die. I'm not, no, yes. I don't think he looks healthy there per se, but sure, I'm glad that he's alive, of course. But Piers, I will say just after listening to him, the red man, throughout this entire conversation, I do want to say that I never appreciated how hard your job is to listen to people like this guy just scream for 45 minutes to an hour almost every day.
40:50So I do want to show you an ounce of respect right now just for, you know, listening to this guy. You know, it's a lot, it's a lot, Piers, so genuinely I want to extend that.
40:58Piers Morgan:I love Vinny's passion. and actually I think Vinny's complexion is clearly a Labor Day weekend spent enjoying himself in the sunshine. He's so angry. I just love how angry he's gotten through this conversation. Harry! Harry! He falls for it every time. You walk right into it every time. You have the IQ of a goldfish, so when I say something like that, you do it. Harry, you should steal from Gavin Newsom, start a clothing line that says, Harry, I was wrong about everything. He's going again. He's going again. He's still beating. Let me end with Sean Spicer. We're looking at live pictures of his hand, Sean, which looks like he's had a bit of make-up attached to it.
41:42Piers Morgan:Are we just all losing our minds here? I mean, if you look at any 79-year-old man's hands, they probably occasionally have a bit of bruising and stuff. He looked perfectly normal to me. Obviously, we don't know if it's anything else, but it looks to me like this has been a bit of a manufactured crisis. WELL, THERE'S TWO THINGS I'D SAY. ONE, IT'S A BIT CREEPY THAT WE'RE STARING AT HIS HAND. I GUESS IT'S PROBABLY BETTER THAN HIS FEET. BUT I WILL SAY THAT, LOOK, THE WHITE HOUSE PROACTIVELY CAME OUT AND ADDRESSED THESE ISSUES. SO, CAROLINE LEVITT TOOK TO THE WHITE HOUSE PODIUM A FEW WEEKS AGO, IT'S PROBABLY A MONTH OR SO NOW, AND ADDRESSED THOSE ISSUES PROACTIVELY.
42:21THIS IS A SHARP CONTRAST FROM WHAT WE DID SEE. THIS IS HOW IT SHOULD BE HANDLED. PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE MEDICAL YOU HAVE A PARTICULAR SITUATION, SOMETIMES YOU HAVE A PARTICULAR SITUATION, SOMETIMES THERE'S AN ABNORMALITY THAT HAS OCCURRED OR MEDICAL CONDITION THAT COMES UPON YOU. THE QUESTION IS WHETHER OR NOT THE WHITE HOUSE IS BEING TRANSPARENT. IN THIS CASE THEY HAVE. RIGHT? SO YOU MAY NOT LIKE PRESIDENT TRUMP, YOU MAY NOT AGREE WITH HIS POLICIES, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE ARE ALL AMERICANS. I NEVER WISHED JOE BIDEN ANY HARM. WHILE HE WAS IN OFFICE, WE NEED A STRONG CHIEF EXECUTIVE, A STRONG PRESIDENT TO BE THE LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD WHILE THEY'RE IN OFFICE.
42:57BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, PRESIDENT TRUMP AND HIS TEAM HAVE THOROUGHLY EXPLAINED WHAT'S GOING ON AND THE ISSUES THAT HE FACES. SO I JUST, I REALLY THINK THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN REAL ISSUES THAT HE'S FACING AND SPECULATION, WHICH IS WHAT WE SAW THIS WEEKEND, AND WHY IT WAS UNFOUNDED, PEARCE, AND THIS IS WHAT WAS SO WEIRD, IS THAT THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, MEDIA POOLS THAT STAY AROUND THE PRESIDENT 24-7. THEY WERE REPORTING ON HIS MOVEMENT. THERE WAS A PICTURE OF HIM ON THE GOLF COURSE. THERE WAS A PICTURE OF HIM WITH HIS GRANDDAUGHTER. SO THE IDEA THAT HE WAS MISSING AN ACTION OR UNSEEN IS JUST PATENTLY FALSE.
43:31HE SAT DOWN WITH AN AT FOR AN HOUR WITH REAGAN REESE OF THE DAILY CALLER. THERE WERE PHOTOS OF THAT INTERACTION. THERE WAS A TRANSCRIPT RELEASE OF THAT INTERACTION. SO THERE'S ONE THING FOR PEOPLE TO SPECULATE. THERE'S ANOTHER THING FOR THEM TO LIE. AND IN THIS CASE THESE WERE LIES BECAUSE WE SAW PRESIDENT TRUMP. We saw him on Truth Social. We saw him physically on the golf course. And then we saw him in the Oval Office give that interview. So I think there's a big difference between speculation and actual... Well, you know what?
43:58Piers Morgan:I mean, look, the bottom line is that the best way to shut the gossips up actually is to do what Trump just did, which is to walk out in the Oval Office, sound and look completely normal, and go about normal business. That actually, in the end, is the best way to shut everybody up. For now, anyway. And I've got to shut you guys up for now. I would have shut James Carville up, but he's disappeared. But thank you all very much, gentlemen. Thoroughly enjoyable. And welcome back to Uncensored. I do wonder what you find thoroughly... If you found that thoroughly enjoyable, James, it appears I am concerned about your social life.
44:31Piers Morgan:You know, I'm a very weird British guy. We get amused by the weirdest of things. I mean, I'm laughing now because Minnie appears to have blown up. There he is. He's back. Guys, great to have you all back. Thank you very much. Take care. See you all. Piers Morgan Uncensored is proudly independent. The only boss around here is me. If you enjoy our show, you ask for only one simple thing. Hit subscribe on YouTube and follow Piers Morgan Uncensored on Spotify and Apple Podcasts. And in return, we will continue our mission to inform, irritate and entertain. And we'll do it all for free. Independent Uncensored media has never been more critical and we couldn't do it without you.
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Donald Trump has laughed off bizarre social media rumours claiming he had died over the weekend, telling reporters: “I didn’t hear that.”
At an Oval Office press conference, the president dismissed the conspiracy theory as “fake news” and insisted he had been “very active” — pointing to a string of Truth Social posts, meetings at his private club, and recent press conferences.
The speculation came after Trump had no public engagements for a week, sparking claims online that he was in poor health. Comparing himself to Joe Biden, Trump said: “I didn’t do any for two days and they said there must be something wrong with him. Biden wouldn’t do them for months.”
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