Amadeus, The Revenge Club, and Imposter. With guest Martin Compston

25:05Oh, my God. Brilliant. And doing some kind of random exploration of the studio. Kate, what are you doing? Oh my God, that's over. Wait, where are they? I mean, you're off camera at the moment because you're standing in between them, but people obviously did see you get up and walk away. I'm so sorry. What are you looking for? I dropped a very valuable earring. Right. And it rolled away. And if I don't pick it up now, I'll forget it. No, that's fair. It'll be awful. Hey, look, Kate's back. Sorry, everyone. These bloody cameras. Oh, these cameras. They'll be the death of you. Yeah. What was I saying?

25:36Martin Compton, that's it. He's our guest this week and he's in a new thriller on Paramount+. of course, The Revenge Club, and this is based on JD Pennington's book. And he took time out of his prep for the new series of... Red Eye. No. Line of Duty. He doesn't need to do prep for Red Eye, because it's already in the can. He needs to get in the headspace to be Steve Armour, and that's what I think he was doing. He needs to get his waistcoat on. And he took time out to speak to us. And we're going to talk about The Revenge Club a little bit later on, where he plays part of a support group for the recently divorced, a group that decides to take righteous vengeance on the spouses who wronged them.

26:07And who doesn't want to do that? So here is Martin talking to Jordan King. It is my absolute pleasure to welcome to the Pilot TV podcast, one of the stars of Paramount Plus' The Revenge Club and one of the busiest men working in TV right now, Mr. Martin Compton. How are you today? I'm not too bad, pal. Thanks for having me. No, no worries at all. As someone that has been missing the restless natives for the last few months, it's good to hear your voice and see if it is. Oh, thank you. I'm actually meeting Gordon tomorrow. We're planning possibly a wee catch-up bonus. Oh, that'd be good. That'd be good.

26:41But I've been really enjoying The Revenge Club so far. I've seen four episodes. And I think one of the things that immediately sort of grabbed me with it is this. You've got this very dark sort of strangers on a train meets horrible bosses kind of premise. But it's also just really, really fun. Like, you get to the end of one and you want to crack straight on with another. I just thought for yourself, obviously you're very well known for doing a lot of thrillers, dramas, that kind of thing. Was part of the appeal of this getting to do something that's dark still, but you get to have a little bit of fun with it?

27:11A hundred percent, mate. Getting to have a play, you know, and yeah, comedy is not my forte, not really what I'm known. But again, that's just opportunities that come your way. You know, I'm very grateful that I've sort of, the work that's came my way the last couple of years has kept me busy. but yeah when you see that script and you see the chance that you I mean comedy can be quite a serious thing but when you see the cast that's coming aboard you know I already knew Doogie a bit, Sharon a bit I'm like I knew this was going to be a laugh and the scripts were wonderful and I don't think you can quite pin it down for what it is because is it a comedy?

27:42Is it a drama? Is it a murder mystery? And it's bits of all of that and I think I don't think there's anything quite like it on TV at the minute you know and as you say it's very bingeable but I genuinely had a blast making it Yeah, and I mean it shows when you're watching it as well because obviously you're getting to work with this big cast of you know, there's a lot of funny bones in the cast you just mentioned fellow countrymen Dougie Henschel and Sharon Rooney I did get a bit of a kick out of the fact that you're the only one out of the three of you getting to use your native accent though I think I probably do have better accents than I am but you know, that, yeah, save with Sharon and also, I mean, Mira Sayal is just, I mean, she's British comedy royalty, you know, with that and Amy Sheenil, it was just, it was a great cast, but it's the first time, because usually I've been on shows where it'd be like Line of Duty and stuff and you've got a little tight knit group of sort of like two or three of you, but it's the first time I felt like part of like an actor's troupe, you know, like a theatre actor's gang because it was proper like six leads and then you throw Amit in there for the therapy scenes and it felt like it was all seveners in there in the trenches together and, you know, it can be long days but when you're all in it together and it can get a bit like naughty kids you know because it was genuinely some of the stuff I mean especially Amit when he's playing Malcolm he's coming in in that gold suit and all that kind of stuff the first time he comes through for that Trust Casino thing, I mean we're all on the deck it's tough because you know you have to make your days there's always a time crunch and stuff but yeah we definitely hit the giggles a few times Yeah well I mean it strikes me as well that the sort of the plotting of all of these different revenge plots and everything it feels you know sort of quite intricate and you know it is like a very well constructed drama in that way but then the funniest side of it does feel a lot looser and it feels almost quite improvisational at times as well so I wondered did you get a chance to sort of like dip your toe in improv waters or were you trying to like back away from that a little bit more?

29:41No I made it say like I it was quite yeah no Tim especially our first block director you know Tim's got impeccable comedy credentials. He was like, yeah, just try it. The script's there. I think that's come over prepared. I think the good thing about improvisation is you've got to know the initial scene so well because you know what you've got to get back to. It's not just saying a funny line for the sake of it. It's got no relation to the scene. But yeah, there was moments, I think, because I came a week late and you think they're all in the groove and you're a wee bit tentative. You think, oh, this is a funny line, but you don't quite commit to it.

30:15You can see people going like, did you say something? but once you get you felt it was a safe space I've always felt with improvisation in any kind of walk with it is I think the problem people have with it or when they're doing it is they always think it has to end in a massive fight and a massive laugh and sometimes when you've got nothing to say and it's just the awkward silence if you can just sit in those moments and Mira's amazing at that the stillness she has if you can And sitting there, sometimes the awkwardness of that is the funny, funny things. And the office was the master at that.

30:50But I really, really enjoyed it. And again, it was just in that you never felt like you tried something and people were sort of looking down upon you. You always felt like, yeah, have a go and we'll try something else. It was a safe environment. Yeah, and I literally was just thinking about it now as you were talking as well. Because obviously, I don't immediately think Martin Compton improv. but at the same time the first thing i ever saw you in was uh sweet 16 16 yeah ken loach famously like a lot of his process is it's exploration and it's sort of like working around theme and stuff so at the same time like was that a bit of a return for you did you find yourself tapping into a bit of that i've always kind of not so much improv these things like i've always added bits of my own dialogue to stuff but again i think that always comes from great initial writing you know that inspires you because if it's something that's not great you can just come in and go right let's get this done and get out of here but I feel again you have to be over prepared because I think the best improvisers which I think is quite contradictory are the ones who know the stuff inside out because then you can throw it away because you know what you've got what you've got to get back to in the scene you've got to know the rules to break the rules exactly and I I've always felt quite as she is with my start with Ken Loach I've always felt quite comfortable improvising but yeah the comedy improvising is something I haven't done in a long time, last time I did it was Urban Myths for Sky and that was great fun so it was something that was always in my mind that I wanted to get back to so I'm really grateful for the team at Revenge Club for giving me a shot at it again Yeah and something about I talked about the ensemble but your character Callum specifically is that because of the way the show's set up and the structure of it he's kind of got that onions layers effect of you're seeing him through these different lenses each episode as it passes i just wondered for you like was there a specific moment when you were reading the scripts or when you did arrive on set where you were like okay i i know this guy now like i get him now yeah i mean it's there are moments that this job can throw you for a loop sometime like i just came off a job called red eye and on the i think on the friday night i was chasing a Russian spy through a car park in Watford.

33:08As you do. I think on the Sunday I was in a community hall in Dublin trying to convince my daughter that I'm a good dad and it just, that was a bit that took me a day to kind of go alright get it together. I think I think it was probably after the kind of second lot of therapy scenes when I felt the big thing for Cal I think it was that sometimes you can find a little in and he has a lighter. I was about to mention the flicking the lighter. the lighter that kind of became a lot even just as an actor that became a little safety net for me um you just can find something you know it's a very important thing for him as a character but also for me it just kind of felt if I had nothing to do I could play with the lighter you know and that kind of drawn me in so that that was something when I came to set each day like I was all and and I've got a scene with with Amy um where we talk about how it annoys everybody and I think I was annoying everybody on set with it as well because you get into a habit of just flicking it um and it has got on but it's very therapeutic um so when i'd get to when i get to set every day i'd always ask for my lighter first thing yeah that's that's really cool i'm gonna have to let you go in just a moment but i obviously couldn't possibly speak to you without mentioning the very recently i can see the look in your eyes already no but you bet see i'll tell you this right now mate see when people stop asking me it'll be a sad day like i i'm lucky that i think as you said when you see was Sweet 16 for me when it happened it was like a weight around my neck for a while because I felt like I had to get away from that character but I think Line of Duty I mean happening sort of late 20s and into it it's I'm proud of it you know and if it's the best thing I'm ever known for like I can't know if people ever stop asking me about it then I'd be quite sad so no absolutely fine I mean if your thing that you're always known for is one of the best British teledramas that we've ever had it's not a bad way to be looked back on is it?

34:58people always try to get away from it I'm like no that's it I'm chuffed that people like it well I am very glad to hear that it's coming back and I am going to have to let you go but I hope that we get to talk to you again when season 7 does drop take care man thanks for your time that was Martin Compton time now for this week's news and look the Golden Globes nominations were announced I don't suggest we spend too much time on this but we should touch on it you always say this because you have to stay It's directed at you. I have disdain. Me? Yes. Is it directed at Boyd? No. Boyd? Yeah. My disdain for Boyd?

35:31No, no, no. I thought you were trying to stop him from reading out a massive list. So you're saying Boyd's boring. You think Boyd's boring and you think that that's what I'm doing here. Go wash your mouth. Hey, no, you're the one who accused him. No, that's not what I'm saying. Like a lot of people, he has valid disdain for the Golden Globes because there are basically like 95 people from Reykjavik or wherever deciding what the best TV and films of the year are. Now, it just so happens, particularly, I think, in the TV branch, so that Golden Globes is unique among all tournaments these days in that it has TV and film.

36:08It straddles the divide. It straddles the divide, all in one cornucopia of showbiz joy, or joy slash embarrassment, when it arrives on the scene in 2nd week of January or something like that. Anyway, but the bottom line is, actually the nominations, as so often happens with Golden Globes, are really good. So, for example, I will just... Except for one, but carry on. Okay, we'll get to that. Oh, in terms of film or TV? Oh, TV. Oh, yeah, TV. So we won't do film, obviously. We'll leave to Empire, The Empire. Oh, wow, okay. Legend. Yeah, we're going to leave all the film stuff. We're going to skip over all that.

36:38But, like, best TV series drama. Yeah. Diplomat? Yes. Tick. Favourite. Pluribus. Yes. Already, you see? See, Pluribus hasn't even finished yet, season one. It's already on the list for Golden Globe nominations. Because it's fabulous. Because it's brilliant. Severance. Can't argue. argue the pit the pit I mean for those who've seen it and the white lotus yeah now yeah nothing to grumble but I'm saying that is a list that is an that that underlines what a brilliant year of tv I've seen some roundups of tv that begin with the thing saying you know what disappointing you for tv I'm like you've got you've got right there you've got six genius shows yeah purely in the drama category I'm still gonna say and or gtfo I know yeah it's difficult though but there isn't To be fair, Diego Luna gets a nomination further down.

37:24It does, yeah. Comedy, best comedy. Abbott Elementary. Yes. Obviously, The Bear. Which isn't a comedy, but carry on. Can't even bother to talk about that. Yeah, exactly. It's like we've said so many times. Hacks, brilliant. Nobody wants this. What the fuck? Yeah, no, that should not. Oh, no, shrinking has been no one's fine. But crucially, they're not doing a weird date thing where they sometimes do that at the Emmys, where actually they're talking about the previous bear, even though the most recent bear is there. They are specifically thinking season two. of nobody wants this which was fine yeah exactly only murders in the building I mean I still like it and the studio which is genius yes everyone liked limited TV anthology series or motion picture made for television Adolescence of course which will win All Her Fault talking of you know literally just gone out just finished on Sky Black Mirror Dying for Sex your favourite oh I like that I really like that Michelle Williams I'm not saying that because of the provocative title I'm saying you did really like that show how dare you you're alright The Beast in Me the oh yeah yeah yeah Maverick Netflix show and The Girlfriend oh I enjoyed yeah Robin Wright yes crazy Robin Wright yes who's crazier Olivia Cooke yeah who's crazier Robin Wright Olivia Cooke yeah so that I think that's a pretty good list that is a good list yeah then we have best performance by a female actor in a drama Bella Ramsey, Last of Us.

38:54Britt Lauer from Severance. Helen Mirren from Mobland, which is Maverick, I have to say. It was 1923, was it not? No, I think it's Mobland. I think she was nominated for 1923. Ooh, he's going to be right. Well, I'm actually looking at the official Golden Globes website. I don't know what you're looking at. Is this where James is going to have to issue another apology? I will be honest. If she were going to be nominated for either of those, I think 1923 would be a better shout. Yes, but wait a minute, wait a minute. That may be the case. But you're factually wrong. Maybe I'm just, I'm choosing to make a, like a, I'm making an audible, I'm making an audible call, I'm changing the nomination from Mobland 1923 for the sake of yours.

39:34And I loved Mobland, but also, it was a bit, you know, they're always after me lucky charms and I don't think, you know. She did get to swear profusely in Mobland. She did get to use C-bombs. She gets effing and jeffing. Maybe that's what it was. I think that is what it was. Seriously. Best C-bomb, Helen Mirren Mobland. Yeah, calling everyone a C-word. All right, fair enough. That's what you want. Kathy Bates for Matlock. Yeah. Kerry Russell, our favourite for The Diplomat. Yes. Well, my favourite. Oh, no, I love her. Perhaps even more of our favourite. Ray Seahawks. Ray Seahawks. Friend of the pod.

40:02She came into the studio. Friend of the pod. Absolute friend of the pod. Then you've got men in drama, as I'm calling it now. Yes, men in drama. Adam Scott, Severance. Diego Luna and Dawn. Yes, come on, Diego. Gary Oldman, Slow Horses. Mark Ruffalo for Task. Yeah. Also friend of the pod. Brilliant performance. Noah Wiley for The Pit I mean who knows I don't know who knows I didn't say and Sterling Brown for Paradise yes okay which is pretty good I think should I go through comedy and musical acting nominations can you just do comedy but can you talk really quickly yeah okay thanks female actor in a musical comedy I.I.

40:43De Beery for The Bear yes Jean Smart for Hacks Jenna Ortega for Wednesday Kristen Bell for Nobody Wants This Natasha Lyonne for Poker Face Selena Gomez for only murders in the building okay I want yeah smart carry on is there a male as well? yes sense of completion? men Adam Brody your favourite yeah I like him Glenn Powell for Chad Powers which is fucking insane Jeremy Allen White for the bear Martin Short for only murders Seth Rogen for the studio Seth Rogen Steve Martin for only murders Steve no no Seth Rogen Seth Rogen wins that has to win yeah and women in sporting roles is this a joke now?

41:19I can't work it out no no it's called Female Actor this pod is sponsored by Boyd reading stuff out well you know when she started you got finished started by Andrew best performance by Female Actor in a sporting role just mention this for Amy LeWood because Amy LeWood is on the message for the White Lover which is brilliant Carrie Coon etc Parker Posey also nominated Papa No yeah oh my god wow it was worth it just for that I think yeah is that it boys run out of steam excellent thank god the reading batteries have run out you know they have a podcast category now as well do they are we in it it's mad we're not in it we're not in it well in which case if you can enter next year yeah I should I should can you imagine yeah like and they have got like things which are podcasts which are not particularly I mean that would be the downfall of the globes they're not fixing or anything you might think oh the podcasts are going to be scripted ones but no you've got the Mel Robbins podcast is that hello I interviewed Mel Robbins and she's a fucking legend.

42:18I mean, you're one step away from being in the Golden Globes. So it is mad, so we should definitely enter. Pod night out at the Golden Globes. I can see it. Exactly, at the Golden Globes. James, I'll be wearing lipstick. Can I just say, Jason Itux has been nominated for Best Supporting Role in the... I'll just do that category, so it's good. Ashley Waters, Adolescence, Billy Crudock, Controversial Morning Show, Jason Itux, White Lotus, Owen Cooper, Adolescence, Trammell Tillman for Severance, and Walton Goggins for the White Lotus. Sorry, I think I'm not... K7 is a meltdown. K has had a meltdown, that's true.

42:53Oh, dear. That's it, I'm not really... Are you sure? Yeah, we're done. We're definitely done. That was longer than the ceremony. Right, let's move on to a piece of news which I thought was very exciting, which is 16 years after Pushing Daisies came off the air. It may be returning, which is wild to me. The one with Anna Friel. Yes, that's absolutely right. The one with Lee Pace as the pie maker and the excellent Jim Dale narration. Kristen Chenoweth is in it, Swoozie Curz, Sheen McBride, loads of people. Really, really good, weird, fairy-tale-y type thing. The narrator in Boat Story always reminded me of the Jim Dale narration of Pushing Daisies.

43:27What channel was that? I genuinely can't remember. It's been so long. Was it Sky Channel 4? Do you remember? Pushing Daisies. It was on ITV. Was it on ITV? Yeah, ITV showed it on a Saturday night in a frankly misguided experiment and no one watched it. No, no surprise. But that ran for two seasons from 2007 to 2009, I want to say. Really good Brian Fuller show. Really enjoyed it. Really, really quirky. Like, the setup, I should say, is that you've got Lee Pacer's the pie maker and he makes pies. That's his job. It's not just a clever name. And basically, he has a special magic power that if he touches a dead body, he brings it back to life.

44:05But if he touches it again, it dies again. And the wrinkle is is that when he brings a body back to life, he has to touch it again and make it dead again within one minute or another life gets claimed. someone else nearby will just die because death needs someone. So if he doesn't... And Charlotte Charles or Chuck, his boyhood sweetheart, he brings her back to life and doesn't touch her again. So she stays alive and someone else dies. But the point is, they're in love, but they cannot touch because if they ever touch, she'll die instantly. It's a really weird quirky comedy. So they do things like kiss through cling film and stuff like that.

44:37Like it's really... This is sounding odd. It is really, really odd and it's incredibly strange, but it's really good. I really enjoyed it. Pushing Doses. His eyes have lit up. Yeah, so I'm excited that this may be coming out. It may not, but Brian Fuller is saying that they're working on a third season at the moment. Everyone wants to come back. Maybe they'll do it. Good news. That would be good. Yeah, it was a really good show. It was a very inventive, unusual... It was. Right, now for some news that will be old by the time this comes out, but I just want to cover it off because it's quite exciting for Gogglebox viewers.

45:07Tomorrow, we're recording this on Thursday. Tomorrow there's going to be an episode which is for Stand Up to Cancer. and basically it's a Hollywood edition because it's got actual Josh Hartnett on it with his wife, actress wife, Tamsin Edgerton and they're taking part. But more exciting for me personally and I think for Boyd is that Kieran Culkin, yes, Roman from Succession is going to be on with his wife, Jazz Charlson. So that is going to be very interesting. Are you fiddling around with the lights while I'm doing this? I am. I've noticed that the pilot TV branding in the studio wasn't working.

45:37So I've just turned it on. Okay. As always, concentration levels are high. sorry could you repeat that absolutely not absolutely not but that's going to be on so anyone listening to this on Monday you can check it out on what I like to call All 4 no 4ID it is actually All 4 isn't it I don't know Boyd which is it channel4.com whatever it is it's just channel4.com fine so that's some news now one thing we should talk about very very briefly because we should talk about this on Empire and I think we touched on it on Pilot Plus as well but the Netflix bid to buy all things Warner Brothers essentially Warner Brothers as Calvary they were an exclusive talks for it for well it works out like 82 billion including debt doesn't it for the amount they were going to pay for it uh and that was a thing that was announced just after we recorded last week's main podcast we didn't really get to get into that but then since then the new development is that paramount skydance who were the other bidder here have now launched what can only be described as a hostile takeover bid appealing directly to shareholders for them to try and get hold of water brothers discovery essentially that means that paramount skydance are now still in the running, I guess, at this point, and it's not a done deal, despite the fact that Netflix emailed all of us, and I don't just mean us, I mean subscribers generally, Ted Sarandos did not drop me a line, to say that they are now in exclusive talks and they're essentially buying Warner Brothers.

46:52Yes. It's very complicated. No one knows what's going to happen. No. But a couple of interesting things. One is that the Netflix offer does not include certain things like CNN. No, they're not interested in the news arm of it. Yeah. So it's really for the kind of scripted stuff, if you like. Yeah. whereas the Paramount Skydance office for the whole fucking thing, which is why it's significant, tens of billions of dollars more. And the other thing to say about it is there's a whole political element to it because the people who own Paramount Skydance, Larry Ellison and his son, Larry Ellison is the second richest man in the world.

47:28Well, occasionally the richest. They go backwards and forwards, don't they? What's a few Bill here and there? Exactly. If you've seen that, the Jesse Armstrong... Mountainhead. It's kind of all about that. There's like a Larry Ellison-alike character. Anyway, they are right-wing pro-Trump MAGA people. And already there's talk about right-wingifying. That's not an actual word or phrase. It is now. I'm using it now. Right-wingification. CNN, because CNN is like a kind of bastion of liberal, you know, supposedly objective, but actually, you know, they're fairly kind of, they're fairly pro-Democrat, I would say, realistically.

48:07But obviously Donald Trump hates them. So that's part of the, there's a kind of underlying political turmoil going on underneath it. When's this going to get called? When are we going to find out? I think it's going to take, even if... This will take at least a year. Yeah, it will take ages. If not longer. Well, that's even, I mean, it might be less time than that to determine which of the... Oh, yeah, but for this all to happen... From then on, there's all the regulatory bodies to investigate. Oh, I just want to know who's going to... It affects, you know, Europe and everyone's got their own regulatory things in broadcasting, obviously, things, that's a technical term.

48:37so it's going to drag on for months but it is whatever happens it's going to be it's going to change the face of the industry TV and film yeah I mean it's it's not a good thing I think in either particular regard but because you know reduced choices is never a good thing but I don't know quite where it goes I think there are different risks depending on which party gets it Netflix obviously do many many good things but they're not historically huge supporters of the theatrical experience which is a concern for Warner Brothers film output and obviously their strategy for TV programming is quite different to, for example, HBO's.

49:13But I don't know. What's weird, yeah, I mean, you probably touched this on the Empire podcast, but I think it's completely insane that Ted Sarandos of Netflix fame is not just saying why, like, Netflix is, his, Netflix, one of their USPs, obviously, is that they don't, they put their films in cinemas basically to qualify for awards things, right? and yet they make like Frankenstein for example and this is a film point I'm sorry I've got sidetracked it's a complete visual feast part of the whole selling point of that film a huge element of that film is that Netflix? yeah it's a Netflix film and funnily enough I think Mark Kermode mentioned when he was talking about Jay Kelly which is the George Clooney film they told him to go and see it in a cinema apparently in Netflix because they wanted him to see it on the big screen a film that 90 % 95 % of the people who watch it We'll consume it on Netflix.

50:05So I don't know why Ted Sarandos isn't just saying, obviously we'll keep Netflix as it is at the moment, with not big emphasis on theatrical releases, but we'll keep all the theatrical releases on Warner Brothers. What's he got to lose? It seems insane to me that he's not embracing the fact that he can have his vision of the new Netflix Warner Brothers doesn't allow for huge blockbuster movies. Well, we don't know. We don't know. He might. But quotes by him have been pretty negative about the theatrical window. The theatrical window needs to close a little bit, yes. This is a film discussion. It is a film discussion, so we must immediately stop it.

50:39Just cut it out. And say, yeah, to continue this conversation, or to continue listening to it, feel free to listen to the Empire podcast from Friday. I'm going to bring it back to TV quickly. Go on, Kay. With the news that Lupin is coming back for a fourth season, which is very exciting. Yeah, I love Lupin. Yeah, me too. It's fucking brilliant. Yeah, yeah. So that's some exciting news for Netflix, even if it doesn't win this bid. Have they started making it yet? Are they announcing filming it yet? What stage are we at? I think they've just announced it, I think. Okay, that's Netflix. And Paramount also have renewed Landman, the new Taylor Sharon show.

51:12That's been renewed for a third season on Paramount. I did well. And the other thing I want to mention is that Channel 4 put out pictures of Tiptoe, which is Russell T. Davis' new show that I went on set for. David Morrissey. David Morrissey and Alan Cumming, host of US Traitors, of course. And it's about these two warring neighbours. and it's going to be brilliant and they're just finishing filming now pretty much and it's going to be on Channel 4 in the summer and it's going to be absolutely fabulous. And before we wrap up news I just want to give you some quick news about Stephen Moffat's Channel 4 comedy drama number 10.

51:50So we found out that Rafe Spall will be playing the Prime Minister and the Deputy Chief of Staff is going to be played by Jenna Coleman which is very exciting. and finally Catherine Kelly has also been announced she'll be the chief of staff so exciting exciting casting news Catherine Kelly fresh from her brilliant supporting role as Alan Partridge's girlfriend in the recent series Alan Partridge's series on BBC which I re-watched recently and it's even better the whole thing the second time around and you know what they've done on the DVD Blu-ray release of it I think this is absolutely brilliant and credit to Steve Coogan you know there's a fan Monkey Tennis is a fan I've been on it podcast about in which they go through all Alan Partridge iterations and they kind of go episode by episode they do a deep dive review he's put one of their commentaries a commentary on the official DVD release oh that's good of him yeah it's like fully credited yeah it's like having one of your spoiler special you know on the official DVD can you imagine can you imagine can you imagine can you imagine when it comes out on Blu-ray oh wow he's got us banging on about it or something we'd love that yeah we should make that happen Vince if you're listening Yeah, so kudos to Coogan and Partridge and all things.

53:03Excellent. I believe that's the end of news. The end of the podcast, surely. It's nine hours in. Oh, we should probably review some shows, shouldn't we? Let's begin with The Revenge Club, which we heard about a little bit earlier on from Martin himself. This is the new thread on Paramount+. It is based on the novel by J.D. Pennington, and the book is actually called The Othello Club. But this co-stars Amy Fionn-Edwards, Mira Cial, lots of other people in, and they're the sort of eponymous group, the sort of revenge club. And they start out as a divorcees sort of support group and they seek retribution upon their love rat exes.

53:35Now, Boydie, you do love a love rat. So, do you want to tell us more about this? Do I? Yeah, Channel 5 show, remember? Oh, of course. How could you forget your show of 2024? Contender, top 20 contender. Yeah, exactly. This has got a great cast. I think Mira Sayal I think is how you'd pronounce her surname I apologise who should be in everything she's a great reminder she's great in this and I think she should get way more major TV roles great to see Martin Compton in a different role as well from what we know of him obviously in Line of Duty etc and the forthcoming Red Iron still charming very charming still charming but more I don't know slightly it's like a different fit for him yeah he's an everyman in this I feel Malcolm, very high pitch there.

54:23Yes, he is. Yes, he is the every man. Amy Fiona Edwards, whose character Emily is the focus of the first episode, at least, whose husband is having an affair. And all these people are effectively coming together in a support group, aren't they? Being run by a character, Malcolm, played by Amit Shah, of people dealing with the best way to deal with this kind of betrayal and divorce and their partners getting up to no good. I think what I liked about it is that it's neither a like police procedural it's not a mystery it's not really a cop show I mean cops get involved because things happen in fact in the very beginning there's a framing device there's a framing device she's being interrogated in the first scene crimes have been committed thank you for reminding me of that obviously as in all of peak TV you have to have a framing device at the very least you can't start the story at the beginning It's a bit like I Jack Wright in that sense, because that's how it started.

55:22Yeah, exactly. Yeah, what I really liked about it was it doesn't fit into any easy genre. It's not really murder mystery. I mean, there's crime drama. Crimes have happened clearly, which is established in the opening framing device, which then flashes back to tell us to fill in the details. It's a pick and mix of genres, isn't it? It's like there's loads of different things at play. But the extent to which it is a pick and mix makes it not... It doesn't easily fit into any of those categories. you can have the pick and mix all in one bag and mix it all together I do love a pick and mix a big juicy assortment of treats and I think the cast is the key as I say all of these people I didn't even mention Douglas Henshaw who's really good in it Doogie as you were calling him remember?

56:06Doogie Henshaw where he got over familiar exactly I think his mates call him which I am definitely one I'm not Shanae Kula I didn't mention him he's really good as well he's the one at the end of the first episode So he wants his case to mean the next one they explore. So I thought it managed to make a quite far-fetched idea that these people could come together and kind of hatch a crackpot plan. Kind of make it almost believable. Or believable enough for you to go along with the willing suspension of disbelief that you need for a story like this. It's the characters, I think, that assist with that.

56:41Because it's fun. Like you say, it's kind of crackpot. But because I believed in, like, particularly Amy and Martin Compton's characters who have this chemistry, right? And so, like, as it's unfolding, I'm like, actually, no, I'm buying more and more into it. And I think that's helped by other characters like Mira, etc. But I just like the fact that they've, I don't know, one of them anoints them the pound shop Ocean's Eleven. And that's kind of what this is. And it's just fun and entertaining. And I thought it'd be kind of cosy, like a cosy crime element. But actually, no, it's actually, there's a, you know, the crime is quite serious.

57:16And we're going to have to piece it together as the series goes on. But I enjoyed it and I like the backstories. I think good character work. It's kind of, it's like a mix between a caper. Because the revenge they take, they're quite elaborate. It's not, you know, some of the stuff is wild. I won't give anything away. But it's quite fun the way they put them all together and how they execute them. That's very Ocean's Eleven-y. and then in addition you've got this oh it all gets a bit serious police investigation so it's the mystery of what went wrong how did it go wrong what happened and who let's be honest died as a result of it so that's kind of there to keep you going just in case you weren't drawn in by the caper but it's a lot of fun I think it's a good first episode it draws you in it does yeah and it does defy I would say easy categorisation that was a struggle for me turns out revenge is sweet yes yeah did you read the official book Kay?

58:08no I haven't The Othello Club The Othello Club did you? no oh okay I thought you were like did you read the official book Kay because I have no not at all he knows I'm an avid reader Kay can read and does read Kay reads books that aren't necessarily set in a world of orcs and goblins I don't understand doing magic things he can't even understand that concept he's like what do you mean other books exist just saying but does anyone know why it was called The Othello Club and not the no No, I don't. Maybe they were big Shakespeare fans. Maybe they started by reading Othello. Maybe it was a Shakespeare appreciation society.

58:45Well, there was probably, you know, there was that kind of betrayal going on. Motiveless malignancy. Yes, exactly. A Machiavellian character like Iago. Did I study at A-level? Yes, I did. But, I mean, look, there's always fun to see love rats being brought to justice. Yeah. And I think there's an element of kind of thing well-earned schadenfreude here because we're all like, God, get them, get them. Get the love rats. Yeah, especially the Amy Fjorn Edwards partner. Oh, yes. Because you're like, you are a shit. You can go to hell in a hand car. Yeah. Satisfying. The revenge club then, on Paramount Plus, who do not yet own Water Brothers Discovery.

59:22Oh, you're going to ask me when it's on, aren't you? I am. God. Yeah, tell me now, Boydie. Boyd, I'm not being funny. You've had so much information at your fingertips. I can tell you now without looking at the calendar, it's on now. Oh, yeah, that's right. it's on now because it was heavily embargoed yes oh that was a test he tested you I did I tested you and suffice to say you failed you were found wanting next up we have Amadeus which is Joe Barton's new show and a series I hold directly responsible for me not having season two of Black Doves to enjoy over Christmas but I will try not to hold that against it because this is a historical drama based on the 1979 play by Peter Schaffer and fictionalises the rivalry between two great composers specifically Antonio Salieri played by Paul Bettany and Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, you may have heard of him, played by Will Sharp, both of whom will be on the podcast next week talking about this show with Boydie.

1:00:12In the meantime, though, Kate, can you be the maestro for this particular show? Always, I'll be the maestro. Do you know what? So I went into this knowing very little about Mozart. I won't surprise you to know. You're not an avid pianist? No, I'm not. I mean, I sometimes tinkle the ivories at Christmas. An avid what? Sorry. Lol. But so good is this, right, that I instantly was then Googling and in that predictable way, I'm a cliche in that way, because I was like, oh, my God, now I need to know, like, the backstory and stuff like this. It is very, very well done, as you would imagine, and the casting is great.

1:00:49So, as you say, Will Sharp is Mozart, and he particularly, I mean, they're both well cast, the leads. Paul Bettany is great as Salieri because he is very upright and quite serious character. He was first on the scene composing and then gets usurped essentially by Mozart. And he's creatively blocked. He's a very pious man, creatively blocked, believes that he's been channeling the music as a conversation with God. And that's his... Much like this podcast. I mean, said no one. And yeah, and so, you know, Mozart comes on the scene. And what I liked about that character of Salieri, So first of all, it starts in a very dramatic fashion because this character is trying to unsuccessfully end his life.

1:01:36And he has this confession that he wants to make to Mozart's wife. And what I like about it is that it doesn't go down the predictable route of like when Mozart comes on the scene, it'll be easy for Antonio to try and, you know, scupper his efforts to stop him from, you know, having an audience with the emperor, all these kind of things, which he doesn't do, actually. He, you know, he's quite open to trying to help Mozart at first, which I thought was interesting, an interesting dynamic. Obviously, that's about to change because Mozart is hugely talented and he's a real character. He is... A bellend?

1:02:10No, I... Listen... He's a bit of a bellend. Oh. Listen, he's got shades... Not even a bit of a bellend. He's shades of... This is a bold take. Oh, this case tastes in men coming to the fore there. No, no, no, no. Look, of course he is. But crucially with him... Right, you get... Right, in the scale of bellends, right? Right, you've got me. You've got James. No, no, no. You've got the bellends who are extraordinary bellends and have no talent, have nothing to back it up. And then you've got the people who are bellends, but they're incredibly talented. Now, it doesn't take away from... A prodigious bellend.

1:02:39It doesn't take away from their bellendry, of course, but they have the goods to back it up. And I put Mozart in that. Do you think there was this conversation that Joe Barton had when he pitched this show? The levels of bellendry. Do you support his decisions to go off and compose elsewhere, we're leaving his poor wife and child. Well, I haven't got to that bit yet, boys. Spoiler for Amadeus. Yeah, I was like, I've only watched the first episode, boys, so don't spoil it for me, please. But in this first episode, he is very... I think he's electric to watch, right? Because he's a live wire, and he has got talent and charisma oozing out of him.

1:03:15And he is arrogant, of course. And, I mean, some of the scenes, There is a scene where he has, shall we say, liaison, a liaison with a woman. Liaison with a lady. With a lady and some soft fruit, which is extraordinary to see. It's very amusing. Also, it added a new sign-off for me because, as you know, verbally I like to always say to Boyd, best or best wishes. Where are we going with this? But now, Boyd, I'm adding the very brilliant Toodaloo. Oh, Toodaloo. you know Toodaloo is Empire Podcast's Helen O 'Hara sign off that's why Boidy likes it so much oh my god no wonder she's a legend that is an extraordinary sign off so anyway yes it's funny Mozart as a character he's very amusing and he is so sort of unfettered and fluid and he's so sort of free with his writing that's why he obviously this Salieri probably could have great reason for hating him because he is, you know, he's a master of what he does and he's unrestrained and that shows up in so many different areas of his life, which would make him seem like a Belen because particularly with the ladies, but he has this relationship and this connection with Constance.

1:04:29You know, she is his match and she is fantastic, we should say. That's great casting by Gabrielle Grevy. So, yes, overall, I was very, very taken by this and I think it's, yeah, it's just fun, it's bawdy, it's exciting. It's a smart period romp. That's how I'm describing it. Yeah, I mean, it's an incredibly bold, it's the only word for it, decision to do a new version of this story because, I mean, partly, I mean, by the way, all of the press information fairly says this is a version inspired by the original play. Yeah, Peter Schaffer's play, not the Milos Forman film. I mean, I've seen neither plays.

1:05:13Right, but I've seen both. and the Miloš Forman film is regarded by many as one of the greatest films ever made. I mean, I know Simon Mayo of Bauer Radio fame's favourite film of all time. Is it? Yes, indeed. Is it one of your favourite? You know, you've got a lot of favourites. It's got to be one of your favourite films. It's not in my top 20, I would say. Every film's in your top 20. That must be a real disc to that film. Well, I'm just proving you wrong, aren't I? By saying it's not. He's saying it's terrible. No, it's not terrible. It's really, really good. It's a great film. But I think, so it is audacious, to say the least, for people to go, oh, what we need is, you know, a new version of this story told across five hours, roughly, on television.

1:05:58But... Joe Barton is nothing if not audacious. Indeed. And what I think he's done brilliantly is he's opened out the world of this story. So you get much more, particularly of Gabrielle Carivia as the wife in this story. and she gets and it's kind of like exploring the ramifications of a lot of stuff that you see in the original play and film but doesn't have time to delve deeper into it so he's delving deeper into this into Mozart the relationship with his wife all of that obviously the rivalry with Salieri but there's more of Salieri in this version you know you get to see his by the way it's a while it's a while since I watched the film and it's an even longer while since I watched stage play but i'm pretty sure that's what he's done and the he's kept it and at the same time he's kept it incredibly fresh and vibrant and the casting is fantastic as will sharp is i think where you're talking about you know what do we what how do what level of dickheadery do we ascribe to him effectively what type of bellendery levels of bellendery well because he is so charming will Sharp and likeable and handsome and, you know, all of those things.

1:07:15A bit different, interesting, I would say to Tom Hulse, who's in the film version. I think Will Sharp manages to make him more likeable. Oh, yeah. And likeability... Well, he's got a cheekiness to him. Yeah. There's a discussion about relatability in this, I think... Oh, I mean, who among us can't relate to Mozart? Exactly. I think that's... And I brought it up in the interview, and they were like, that's more of a question for Joe Barton, which is absolutely right. They said it in a very nice way. They were like, boy, what the fuck are you asking us that for? But I think Joe Pant has this bit, yeah, where Mozart and his mate discuss, is their story relatable?

1:07:47And I think that's really interesting because I think, you know, people will say, people did say about Amadeus the film, oh, it's full of horrible people, you know, competing, this essential rivalry. They're both bellends. Bellends, yes. But what Joe does brilliantly in the script for the show is deepen our understanding, I think, of those two and everyone who's in their circle, you know, in their circle of friends, acquaintances, relatives, wives, partners, etc. And what happens to Salieri is Salieri suddenly rejects religion, for example, and goes massively debauched. What? Yeah, slight spoiler.

1:08:22Boy, stop spoiling the show for me, please. Is that a spoiler? No, for me specifically, because I'm so invested in it. And Kate likes debauchery, and she doesn't want to know that's coming. Sorry. I did bring it up in the interview, which they happily discussed, so certainly it's that much of a spoiler. And then I watched the whole thing, because I was in prep for the interview. I like to do my homework. Professional. And it goes places, I think, in the end, where the original film and play couldn't go. And it's really beautifully directed and written and acted. And so it's like a real prestige TV project that I think really works.

1:08:55People often complain about people rebooting and reimagining old property, old IP and all of that. It's tired. It's almost as tired a criticism as it is of actually making something out of old intellectual property. But this is an example of where it totally is valid because it's adding something more to the original. And it's entertaining us brilliantly at the same time. And the casting down to the smallest... Rory Kinnear. Rory Kinnear is the... Emperor. I mean, there's a lot of his diplomat prime minister in that performance. It's great. But he's so brilliant at it. I mean, the diplomat, he's astonishing.

1:09:32I love him so much as the prime minister. He's so horrible and nasty. He's slightly less horrible in this. He's just imperious as the emperor. Is the emperor or king emperor? Of Austria, yeah. Emperor of Austria. He would be imperious. You've got to be imperious if you're the fucking emperor. I mean, if you're a literal emperor. Can't get away on that. So he's slightly less of an absolute total shithead as he is in the series that I keep forgetting. The Diplomat. The Diplomat, thank you. I can never remember the title of that show. Even though I love it. It's one of my favorite shows. It's definitely going to be in my top 20.

1:09:59Can you get your tattoo? Nicol Trowbridge, the Prime Minister. So it's brilliantly cast, brilliantly done. and it is an absolute gigantic treat. Do you know when I was watching this, what it made me realise? And I'm going to continue with The Count of Monte Cristo, and I know you guys were very negative about it, and I enjoyed the first episode. The Euro pudding. Yeah. But I think what it made me realise is, like, both period dramas, I mean, this has got such flair and wit. Yeah, it has pizzazz to it. Yeah, it's like in a different league, and I think that's what I realised. Yeah, this is a Rolls Royce compared to that Hillman Impel.

1:10:31Oi. I have to be honest, I didn't think I was going to like this. Oh, why? Are you a fan of the original film? Do you know, I've seen it, but no, not particularly. I'm sure it is one of the greatest films ever made, but it's not really my jam. Were you just in a Mary Mary Contrary mode? No, I think mainly I just wasn't, I was like, it was a subject matter. Genuinely, it was a subject matter. And it wasn't that I thought it would be bad, I just thought, you know, if you'd given me season two of Black Doves, I'd been there with bells on, but for this I just wasn't really feeling moat. I was like, okay, you're fine.

1:10:57But I mean, it took maybe five minutes, ten minutes before I was kind of sucked into this. Yeah. Because it started with, you get, again, a framing device. We have a framing device. We get old-aid Salieri confessing his sins before we get into it. But I think, first of all, the second, weirdly, it was Rory Kinnear, actually. When he comes in, you know, doing his Nicol Trowbridge as the Emperor, I was like, okay, I'm on board now already. And the way Bettany tries to kind of navigate the kind of politics of whether he can do his new opera, whether he has to do the old opera, what language is going to be, and that sort of thing.

1:11:30and then the second Will Sharp comes on he commands the screen because he is a raging bellend but he has such charisma and a little cheeky twinkle in his eye he's got, how do you say that? Insouciance that's what he's got about but also I love that they have like they have a piano off like a duel between him and a core pianist and it's just amazing he's like it gets orgasmic oh it's, I genuinely I was I've never been so invested in a musical performance I was like, God, get him, get him. Like, it was like... Wow. Tickle those ivories. No, it was like watching like two prize fighters going at it, but via their keyboards.

1:12:08And I thought that was such a brilliantly staged sequence. And, you know, whether you're interested in Mozart period drama, classical music, pianos, there's something just universal about that sort of like mano-a-mano kind of confrontation. And the fact that they're able to do it through music, yeah, I thought was... Piano duel. A piano duel. It's a thing. Dueling pianos. What's interesting is that, for me, is that there's a whole load of films and TV shows at the moment about male geniuses and their... And podcasts, about that too. And podcasts, yeah. About their flawed, and particularly, well, I'm toasted by you, yeah.

1:12:45Flawed genius men wanting to have things their own way. So there's this. Who else? As you see this more, I've seen more of it. So the relationship with the mother and the, et cetera. the mother his wife and mother plays out more I urge you to not ruin any more of it then you've got Hamnet the film which is about with Paul Mascos William Shakespeare who has to abandon his wife and kids to go up and write well this is I'm saying has to there's always a choice there's always a choice yeah yeah yeah and then the Timothee Chalamet film I was talking about Marty Supreme he abandons the spoiler for Marty Supreme as well there's a lot of yeah so there's a lot abandoning genius my heart is bleeding for all these tortured men well this is my point is that it could be it could be seen as a tired trope but it's definitely a thing I think and people love films and TV shows about geniuses and there are often almost certainly people who call themselves geniuses or regard themselves as our men and yet two of them in this room James knows he's a genius thank you buddy that's very kind of you to say I aspire yeah I aspire to geniusness but fail And I, of course, have achieved it.

1:13:56But I think this is partly about that whole syndrome. The difference is, I think this is partly about... Bell-end syndrome. Male genius bell-end syndrome. M-G-B-S. I think this, and it does a really good job of exploring. It kind of says, if you're presented with all of these brilliant things, like if you're Mozart and people want stuff from you, and they're going to literally pay you to do stuff, and they're going to love you for it, it's hard to resist that. That's part of the whole thing. And the extent to which you can or can't resist that is explored brilliantly. That's my long window. And it is so effortless for him.

1:14:31Yeah. Amadeus then. Amadeus. Amadeus, which lands not till Sunday, as I recall. Yeah, Sunday 21st of December 2025. On? Sky Atlantic. Worth the wait. Now. Now. We have very little time left. We have one more show to cover. Because next up we have Imposter on Channel 5. and this is an Australian-UK collab created by Neighbours producer Jason Herbison Herbison? Herbison Herbison It stars Coronation Streets Kim Marsh and Neighbours Jackie Woodburn as well as former Home and Away star and Kylie's sister Danny Minogue It's what I'm calling a soap convention Yeah It really is It is the twisted tale of a woman called Helen who refuses to sell her seaside merch She's a motelier as we've discussed she refuses to sell her seaside motel despite the machinations of her scheming family only for her long lost daughter or is she I wonder what James thinks of this to pop across from Merseyside in fact and slide into her life now apropos of nothing I think it's a good time to reflect briefly on Pilot TV's mission statement to bring you the very best of cinematic TV entertainment to help you navigate the quality waters of prestige TV and as I say at the top of every episode to be your essential guide to every show that matters.

1:15:51Now, I know what you are expecting, what you're all expecting, what you two in particular are expecting is that I will go on some kind of sneery, elitist monologue, disparaging Channel 5's imposter and perhaps suggesting that it does not 100 % fit that description, Boyd-y. Listen, it's not that you do nothing. What? Listen, that's unfair. I'm not going to do that. I am not going to do that. James, own up to the... Why are we doing this? because everything's embargoed, you know. You should be thanking me for finding another show for this review when there was nothing else on. If the option was not to do anything and cut this short, would you have wanted to do it?

1:16:26No, because you'd like to... We could do that. We could literally do that. But do you know what? We're not going to enjoy. I'll tell you why. Because you like to eke it out? Because I had to fucking watch this. So, Boydie, please tell us about Imposter.

1:16:38Yes. As you say, it's about a hotelier, a motelier. Motelier. and she has to deal with her various offspring who clearly want to exploit her and her hotel for all it's worth. They want to sell it off and make loads of money. She wants to keep it because it's basically her life's work. In comes Kim Marsh as the secret daughter that no one knew she had who's been living in England, hence Kim Marsh's accent, and she arrives on the scene. At this stage, let's remember what the title is of the show. Now, well, this is the great thing about it. This is such a, I mean, it would be a complex web to navigate.

1:17:21Can you navigate a web? I don't know. But it's called Imposter. It's actually, funnily enough, it's either called Imposter or The Imposter. I think it's called Imposter in Australia. And we get the definite article. We get the definite article. Because we're worth it. On the fifth channel. Is it Channel 5 or is it just 5? It's just 5. The 5. It's just Imposter. you know they don't like they don't like other you know they're grammatically indecisive yes decisive so yes there's a character who pops up in episode 3 played by Danny Minogue oh wow you got to episode 3 you got to episode 3 well I had to because I was writing about it I was writing about it for him oh this is the new love rat isn't it and this is the new love rat to some extent and I was like when the fuck does Danny because there's a Q &A with Danny Minogue in the press pack etc and she talks about you know all this that and the other and i mean you can put two together but it's like one of them is an imposter anyway between um her and um kim marsh i watched this and it's so clunky it makes love rat look like a fucking masterpiece is what i would say so in the in the um in the press information about they talk about they want it to be a bit like at one of those 80s erotic thrillers like Basic Instinct and I was watching the first episode I was thinking when's the Basic Instinct stuff going to kick in and then sure enough the finale a final scene of episode one includes some intimate scenes of intimacy shall we say with Kim Marsh and it's hilarious and they are shot almost like in tribute to those films back in the day because if you watch those films like Fatal Attraction Basic Instinct Sliver 90s erotica and I by the way I love that I have no doubt but they are quite camp and over the top and stupid and almost self aware it's like Mills and Boone well except more kind of adult more edgier than Mills and Boone I think Mills and Boone were swoonsome and romantic weren't they they didn't emphasise the shagging this is just pure raunchy shagging but it's shot in such a kind of ridiculously funny way it's almost like a spoof of sex scenes genuinely is it really is It genuinely feels like something out top secret or something.

1:19:34It really does. Yeah, exactly. It really does. You can spend any minute, like Kim Marshall, to do something stupid, like an airplane or something. So it is shockingly amateurish, and yet kind of mindlessly entertaining, you know, as far as it goes. But obviously, literally the only reason we're doing it, James, to address your point, there's nothing else on. Yeah, I felt bad for Boyd, I think. I mean, you know. You know what you did. it's a TV drama that's running just about on five and that is within our remit I'm surprised you haven't brought up the fact well maybe it's just me I've struggled so hard with Jackie Woodburn's Irish accent which is worse than James's and I didn't think anything was worse than James's accent I mean it was like she was constantly grappling with it sometimes it was okay sometimes it was off and it was like so distracting to me in many ways the least offensive part of this show I know but what I found irritating about that because, well, first of all, I have to say, I'm usually the big defender of 5, Channel 5, etc.

1:20:35You are. But in this instance, I can't because this, I think, is below the standard that you should require. Well navigated. But the issue with the accent thing was, which I found irritating and unnecessary, was like, she could just be an Australian motor owner, right? Why did they have to make her ride? She could have still, you know, been visiting England and given her child up for adoption. there was no need for this extra hurdle linguistic hurdle for her to have this accent but anyway yeah I mean I've got nothing more to say because I think less said sooner spent it. Yes I think you're right the less said about this the better so imposter or the imposter airs on five or the five depending on whatever you want when Boydie?

1:21:17Today? Monday? Monday yeah. Not that we're in any way recommending that you take advantage of that information. Oh not necessarily. No. what did we miss this week what have we not covered do you know what I've got because I had to bring the Christmas coffee shall I tell people yeah you tell us I can tell you that Fallout season 2 of Fallout comes to Prime Video on Wednesday we couldn't cover that it's embargoed until tomorrow so we're going to be covering that on Pilot Plus I think Emily in Paris or Emily in Paris I don't know how you want to pronounce it is on the Netflix that drops on Thursday and that's the only thing I have in the calendar see that's why yeah I think I think that's probably accurate.

1:21:56Okay. That was in Bargad as well, we should say. Emily in Paris. Yes. Okay, that's it. I've got an Empire Christmas lunch to go to, so we should probably call time on the podcast there. Oh, cute. James getting pissed. Not invited. Yeah, sorry, Boynie. Oh, yeah. I mean, yeah. Have you got invited to the after drinks? Oh, how insulting. Oh, my God, boy. Exactly. I'd rather hate you than you went to that. I would honestly, I would give you that bullet. Wow. I might raid the BAFTA screening of Avatar. avatar stuff and nonsense as I'm calling it just so I can heckle James in his intro as I intro it I'm so annoyed myself I'm not going to that screen I might call him up since it's a last minute move as I said you can just heckle him every week on this yeah you can but there's no front in the public in front of people he wants to do a full Salieri and so take me down on stage exactly bring it on okay we haven't said our show of the week have we?

1:22:52no that's a good point right imposter moving on I mean, it's so obviously have food and drink. That it's obviously, you know, we don't even need to... 100 % Amadeus. Yes. But I also did really enjoy The Revenge Club. Amadeus. Okay. With bells on. That was this week's podcast. If you enjoyed it, please leave us a review. It's nearly Christmas. Please send us presents. I'm hungry. Please send us cake. You know, any of those things are fine. If you want to follow us on social media, you can. You know the handles by now. And we'll see you on Thursday for Pilot Plus when we will hopefully be talking about Fallout.

1:23:25And then on next Monday. And what is out next Monday? Let's have a look. Next week. Oh, it's the Christmas one because it's the one that goes out just before Christmas. So we'll be talking through a lot of the Christmas shows. Amanda Land. Including, yes. So excited about that. Including Amanda Land. Well, that may not be on next week's regular podcast. We might do that. Oh, okay. On the final pilot plus on Christmas morning. I mean, it's very confusing. It is very confusing. But yes, more on that next week. In the meantime, I'm off to have mince pies and whatever else I've ordered for lunch. So that's good.

1:23:50I don't like mince pies. That's not true. Pocchini or something. I have to say, of all the intros, that might be your worst. You ready? Yeah. I mean, it's an outro. It's an outro. Oh, intro, outro. Intro, outro. Shake it all about. Yeah. Oh my God. Let's call the whole thing off. Let's call this off, please. This is terrible. This is why we're not getting a Golden Globe, I mean, this is absolutely the reason. Pilot out.