PLUS Legends, and Steph's revenge questionnaire

0:07Welcome to Pilot Plus, your extended guide to every show that matters. And we are gathered here today for Legends. Legends, which is a new crime thriller for Netflix from Neil Forsyth, a six-part crime series starring none other than Steve Coogan, Tom Burke, Hayley Squires, Amir Amin, God, who else? Loads of people. Charlotte Ritchie, Tom Hughes, a lot of very good people and this is based on the true story of customs officials in the 1990s so it's got a nice little retro vibe to it and they go undercover to essentially sniff out the drug operation on behalf of margaret thatcher boydy you're nothing if not a raging thatcherite so why don't you tell us a little bit about legends actually no you can't you can't do that because i sat with you as we interviewed steve coogan in the studio so you are very much in the pocket of big coogan so we pivot we pivot instantly to Steph who's a little less Maggie and a little more John Major but that's absolutely fine so Steph give us your thoughts on Legends basically you know that I'm

1:09Steph:obviously huge Alan Partridge fan Steve Coogan is such a fucking brilliant actor he is so sensational in this he's absolutely been I've I have to say guys you know I try and watch all of them but i've had to watch all of something else i watched two of them the first episode alone completely blew me away steve so steve coogan's basically behind assembling this team another thing i want to say is i'm always always up for any kind of assembling kind of plot avengers assemble do you know what i mean like any kind of assemblance assemble um listen armageddon Ocean's Eleven A caper Yeah Yes Anytime someone says I'm putting a team together You're in Yeah a gang A gang caper It's much like How this pilot crew Got together really It is Yeah so So you get scenes Of the different people Doing their boring jobs Within HMRC You know They're just boring Customs people And then they all have to go away For like three weeks And they're weeded out But they're not allowed To know anything About this operation Obviously this is all The more exciting Because it's actually real And they do some They do kind of intersperse little real news feeds, don't they, in it, which is great.

2:24Steph:But by far and away, the best thing in this are the scenes between Tom Burke, he of Strike, and everything else brilliant that he does, and Steve Coogan. The scenes that they have together are absolute magic. I don't want to give too much away about what happens with Tom Burke's character. I know it's a true story, but if you don't know anything about this, you absolutely aren't going to know anything about it, if you know what I mean. So yeah, I loved it. Everyone in it is absolutely brilliant. The other point I need to make about it is the music is so good in this. If you're a fan of any kind of music of that era, you will absolutely love this.

3:00Steph:But yeah, Steve Coogan, amazing in his role, assembling the greatest team ever. Every single one of them is standout. I love it. People are going to really like this, I think. Really like this. How do you find the authenticity of the 90s setting? Oh, I love it. Yeah, I think it's really authentic. What, did you not think so? No, no, I think James is probably expecting a more expansive response than that. Yeah, I really liked it. No, but you know when James says something and what you really... Oh, you thought I was going somewhere. You thought I was leading you down the garden path somehow. I thought you were going to say that you didn't like...

3:37Steph:How did you think about it? You know when you say something and really the answer that you want from me is whatever you think about it. do you know what I mean yeah okay so no I thought it was incredibly authentic they're a housing estate so there's a bit where they go to again I don't think this is a spoiler there's a bit where some of the team go to an area in Liverpool um is that a spoiler that's not a spoiler is it no okay um you know there's there's all of the kind of council at council house estates in that absolutely brilliant the cars if you have any interest in kind of cars of that era fantastic um even like the nightclub scenes in there are brilliant and yeah i it's i think it's got everything authenticity great actors compelling story and fucking alan partridge everything you want it's great it's absolutely great i guess it's literally 1990 isn't it so it's kind of like the 80s because it's still thatcher isn't it so i don't know it's not like heartland 90s they're not all listening to Nirvana it's you know not quite no no in fact most of the music though that you were talking about are really 80s kind of yeah yeah but then that's kind of my yeah I like 80s music yeah yeah I mean I lived through it so you know you're too young stuff but yeah it feels very no I was born in 81 so I'm in 81 and you're I mean you know what what yeah what are you saying I'm not an 80s baby no there were great neuromatic pop records coming out literally the day you were born probably whereas you know yeah it's true shaking stevens was number one i was there at the hammersmith apollo wherever it was called back then it wasn't called that back then um watching omd and um the cockdow twins so i think feature and uh simple minds etc yeah duran duran spandau ballet i'm just listing 80s bands i've seen live now anyway um i think A huge kudos has to go to Neil Forsyth, the writer of this show.

5:32So he did an absolutely brilliant job with the gold. He somehow spun, and this is not a pun, spun TV gold out of that story in two seasons, two series. People are complaining, people complain when I use the word season about a British TV show. Yeah, which is fair enough. So he managed to get two really, really entertaining series. I think two eight-part series out of the story of the Brinks-Mat robbery, right? And there's no easy feat. What he does is he takes these real-life figures. I actually think Steve Coogan, we touched on this in the interview, I think his character is a bit of an amalgam of different real-life people, so he's not one particular person.

6:19but a lot of the other people are roughly based on one or two people and what he does is he takes he dramatises these real people and he turns them into really vivid you know kind of authentic entertaining characters and yet it doesn't seem like he's taking liberty with them either it doesn't feel like he's doing it in a kind of contrived way it's a real skill I think is what I'm trying to get so Tom Burke's character for example you totally get why he wants to volunteer to go undercover in a drugs gang, which is quite dangerous, and to come up with a persona for himself. Because really the whole crux of the story is, why the hell would normal people even want to?

7:07They're all kind of aspiring to go undercover in really quite dangerous situations and quite scary situations. It's partly because they're living quite slightly the dull life if you're at an airport, you know, sifting through women's handbags or something, then that isn't necessarily... And you can say, yeah, don't want to go for an exciting life. But when Steve Coogan's character, Don, constantly reminds them that what they're doing is really dangerous and quite scary, and they shouldn't take it lightly. And as you said, Stephen, the really entertaining bits where he's narrowing down the dozens of people who want to do this job, and he kind of makes it quite clear they're not capable of it because they're not taking it seriously enough.

7:46All of that is done very convincingly. And I think, as I say, I think he deserves credit above all else in the full side for doing it, so bringing it off so well. And as you say, this role for Coogan, which is the most northern he's been in a long, long time, because, of course, Alan Partridge is from Norwich, so he doesn't really count. It's just fantastic. It's so well honed by him. It's so perfect for him because he's the kind of slightly grumpy, superior kind of um slightly snotty guy who kind of makes fun of people if they're not quite up to the task in hand whatever the task may be and then but once the plots unfurl once we see once the people are in position if you like in their various undercover roles and things start to get scarier and more dangerous then he you see the other side to him where he really cares about these people and he really is you know he's thinking about their welfare and he's almost questioning as well the the morality or the um sense of sending these people into such ridiculous situations such difficult situations so it gets quite it gets it gets really interesting the further it goes on um and i just think it is really good i think i think you're right i think people will really enjoy it um and i think it will do really well for netflix i think i just sorry i forgot to mention it i think episode two um somebody joins the team and you know what

9:05Steph:you're talking about you know kind of the emotional narrative of these people behind why they're joining this team and there's someone who joins the team and i i had a little bit of a tear over it when they were explaining why they wanted to be part of the team um i think that's really well done because obviously all of these people have their own demons and that's you know you you get to see what and especially you know i just tom burke is so good in this um and his reasoning behind everything and how he how he adopts his legend and what he does and how much he really because you have to believe in it you have to believe in it because you really are you could be killed at any moment that's the truth of the situation and any of them could have been much like podcasting much like podcasting exactly but yeah he um he's he's sensational people are going to love it well my see i the difficulty with doing a show like this no no no i don't don't get me wrong i'm not i'm not about to lay into it don't worry but i think the difficulty with doing a show whereby you're telling two parallel stories is you need them both to compete for screen time like you've got to you've got to you've got to like them both equally and i think and i only watched the first two so it might even out as it goes on but i found the tom burke storyline far more compelling than the hayley squires and miller mean storyline so whenever it switched back to them i was like and you know it just it didn't engage me in the same way and i think part of that was for me tom burke is so so good in this role i love the idea of and bear in mind he's got a relatively young child um his wife charlotte richie who's a very small role for someone like charlotte richie so i'm thankful for getting her for this you know he just wants to feel alive he wants to feel excitement he wants to he thinks he could be something more and she's very supportive of him doing this and obviously goes off and just basically disappears off the grid but he has a lot to lose but for me his storyline is compelling but then the mvp for me is gerald kidd the scottish greek actor gerald kidd who plays millenus this kind of flamboyant kind of like greek gangster and and a complete live wire completely unpredictable you never know what he's going to do next and i found all of that stuff just so wildly entertaining because you were just like what the fuck is he going to do next um so i thought that was really fun and it's quite stressful as well because anything i find any kind of undercover drama inherently quite anxiety inducing because you're like are they gonna get found out are they gonna get killed so you're always quite stressed in these scenarios but it's it's very compelling i i you know i was initially a little bit skeptical i'm not gonna lie but i was properly sucked in by this and yeah i i went through the end of the first one i was like no more please and just went straight into the next one well i think the thing about tom burke is and if you you know fans of strike will know this um he has got such screen presence that what strain what's kind of weird in this is when again i don't think this is a spoiler when he he's out on his own in the field and you sort of what i i get what you i do get a bit what you're saying like he has the best story he does probably does have the best storyline and i enjoy the other storyline mostly because of what happens in episode two but yeah you definitely that almost feels like it could be the show on its own just him and what happens to him undercover so i get what you mean that's a very fair point james okay legends then which is on the netflix uh now i want to say isn't that right boydy um yes those as of thursday 7th of may which is today if you're listening to this on the day it comes out which if you're not why not yes and if you're not why not and if you enjoy it then by all means do tune in on monday for the regular show when steve coogan who came into our very studio to talk to us about that will be telling you more about this show fantastic okay it is time for the post bag

12:45okay we have our first question here and this question comes from paul and this is for you oh a question for steph have you finished watching and or if so what are your thoughts i hope you enjoyed it as much as the rest of us nerdy niche fact the band playing music during the funeral scene were recorded live on set if you listen very carefully to the soundtrack you can hear bird song in the background i'd like to believe that those south buckinghamshire birds are now part of the star wars canon in the same way the puffins of skellig became porgs oh paul that's

13:17Steph:a thank you for writing in paul um paul reason i haven't finished it yet okay is because i asked my dear colleagues what i should do because you know i started paradise and and or at the same time okay so I've done season one of paradise okay that's boxed off right um and then now I'm I'm deep in the pit because we because we're trying to do spoiler specials then I'm also on man on fire which I've now got one left to do so we're James and I'm going to do a spoiler special on that and the other thing that's happened to me is I have been drawn into the world of Ted Lasso and clearly I cannot stop watching that.

13:55Steph:So it's not that I am going to finish Andor. I'm going to estimate it's going to take me three weeks and then all of the shows I've just mentioned I will have finished, including season two of Paradise. You need to savour Andor, Steph. You need to savour it. I'm going to write myself a note about Andor to get back to Paul and let him know what I think. So Paul also said that he tried the new pilot email address but his message was rejected. Now Paul is not the only person to tell me that. So I will say if for any reason you're writing in for the postbag and your messages are bouncing back, let me know either on social media or via pilot tv at empire magazine dot com.

14:31I do not know what's going on there. So if there's a problem, I need to fix it. But just to continue on from what Steph was just saying about the pit, we had a message about the pit. This is from Kenny, another person who said that their email bounced back. I'm so sorry for this. I'm going to have to change it back to the other one and try and fix that. I don't know what's going on with that mailbox. so pilot tv at empire magazine.com let's just use that for now uh he says hi james i know you own up to being out of touch and privileged when it comes to screeners and advanced access to shows but this week's pilot plus took the biscuit twice yes twice you made reference to doing a spoiler for season two of the pit as it was finishing please be aware of our world where the sixth episode has only just dropped i look forward to listening to the spoiler special in nine weeks when i intend to binge the whole season in two days the way i did with season one oh i'm very sorry kenny you're absolutely right i have to confirm here that um james is living in a bubble where he thinks that we can do spot a special binge podcast on every show on tv even though most of them these days are still going out weekly and not actually bingeable this is my bad i think i can i confuse the fact that a it's all gone out in the us with b the fact that we've been given to greeners for all them so I was in a place of utmost privilege and all I can do is apologize I haven't don't worry

15:49Steph:guys I remember let's just remember that I'm not on the special screeners thing so I'm with you guys I'm not even watching any of I'm not watching any of them but James has had to watch them for his job so feel reprimanded James but also you know don't feel too bad about yourself is what I'd say but can I just mention something somebody said that it really made me laugh someone put a comment which said that you were going to be on the wrong side of history with regard to your review of Widow's Bay. Yes, because people are loving it. It was one of the comments and it really made me laugh. The feedback on that show has been so overwhelmingly critical of our verdict, our critical verdict, that I feel I have to start watching it again because I'm like, what have I missed in this show?

16:42Steph:Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Sorry. When you say our, you mean yours and James. Because if you scroll back, whereas I was almost shouting, talking to you both about how good it was and how wrong you were. Okay? The reception to it has still been very mixed. So there are still some quite negative reviews out there, but while The Guardian go five stars and other people. I'm just fascinated to see what the fuss is all about. so I am going to watch more when I've got time sometime please do and I accept your apology in advance yeah I'm never going back to that show I'm so sorry I absolutely hated it there's just zero chance but I'd be interested to hear if you do a reverse ferret Boydie oh he definitely will I think you were in the wrong frame of mind when you watched that show wow that's a big statement yeah I do you're right I was expecting something funny that was perhaps my bad

17:38shall we have another question let's have another question i'm so sorry right here's a question from paul the wine guy and paul the wine guy says you may have covered this before but listening to the discussion about the show with ant and or deck why is reality tv so called when it is nothing of

17:53Steph:the sort oh that's such a good point yes that is such a good point i mean i don't want to be rude to the correspondence. Don't be rude to Paul because we love Paul the wine guy. Paul literally sent us wine, lest you forget. He's so nice. But it's a phrase that has been, you know, it's not, people often make this point. It's what reality TV is in real. It's unscripted. Yeah. I mean, it's just. That's what it means. Yeah, exactly. Is he even that accurate? I don't know. Yeah, it's the, it's, well, yeah, that's true. It's involving real people in real situations without scripts. Yeah, indeed. But of course, things happen that you consider to be, in quotes, unreal or contrived or, you know.

18:41But it's just a colloquial. Reality TV just kind of became a colloquial overall term for anything that isn't, as you say, a scripted drama or comedy or whatever. So, yeah, it's a very rude umbrella term. Thank you. i like to think of it as just like a catch-all label for things i will never watch oh james okay we have a question here about hacks from dave supporting perhaps you can feel this dave says it's getting beyond frustrating trying to see the latest series of hacks i signed up for hbo max on day one assuming hacks would be there first two series are on prime series three and four are available to purchase separately but series five nope but it's on sky apparently can boyd try and figure out why an hbo max show isn't on the uk feed but a sky now exclusive i assumed john oliver's and bill mayer's hbo shows would also appear on our max feed but are only available to purchase separately other shows like euphoria rooster and the comeback are available to me so i don't understand hack's absence boydy please help dave can i just say quickly who's is this is

19:50Steph:This is Dave, yeah? This is Dave. Dave, do you know what? Nothing gets my goat more than when I'm trying to look for a show. And you get on the Googles and you're like, where can I watch this? And they have somehow decided to put one season on one thing, another season on the other. And you can't, when you just want to watch them all in a row and then come back and do the continue watching thing. I mean, I'm just saying this for solidarity, really. But it's really, really annoying. So I'm with you. But it's okay, because Boyd now is going to fix this. B, over to you. Oh, God. do you know what I actually don't I didn't know that Hacks wasn't on HBO Max I have to say because I've been watching it on um Sky Sky thank you I'm just trying to remember which Sky it is I think it's Sky Atlantic um I'm doing a number crunch hold on it's also a bit random um because you'd expect it's been on Sky Comedy maybe anyway I I didn't I don't know I'm gonna have to ask the HBO Max people why Hacks is and that is a bit weird I have to say because for me it's in the same kind of camp as the comeback which is a show that has been on sky um before we had hbo max here then hbo max comes along and shows the comeback as well and it's also still on sky but why hacks is still on sky but not on hbo max is bewildering yeah i don't get it that doesn't make any sense because my understanding is by it should fall into the bucket whereby it's on both Yeah, for sure.

21:15Yeah, that is quite shocking, I have to say.

21:19Steph:It says, while the series can be found on HBO Max in the US, Hacks is still exclusive to Sky in the UK. There must be some kind of existing special deal with that one for whatever reason. Oh, it's so annoying. Yeah, I think this is the problem with a lot of these things in the streaming area. It's like not knowing where to find things is kind of irritating. It's really irritating. are inconsistent it makes things even more because just when you think you've worked it out it turns out you're wrong um we do not get sponsored by just watch they do not pay us any money however it is an app slash website that i do use very regularly for this very reason because it is very good at letting you find where you can find buy slash stream things uh so if in doubt check that but it's annoying when they're on different things so i'm just even looking now watch hacks season two on prime video watch some one of them on apple tv i mean it's just annoying you should If you just want to watch Hacks, you should just be able to watch it all on the same channel.

22:14I agree.

22:14Steph:Oh, really got my goat, this us. Hacks has had a really irritating history because it took, remember, it took years to arrive here. Yeah. Once it was shown in America, even. So, I mean, yeah. What a Farago. It's a Farago. Oh, it really is. That's maddening. Okay, a message from Angela, and it is titled, In Defense of Steph. Aww. Love you already, Angela. in defense of Steph's comment about watching stressful programs on her phone it really is a thing significant periods of my time as a prosecutor involved dealing with sexual offenses so I have been sent on a number of courses designed to help mitigate vicarious trauma the last course I did was run by a psychologist and their advice when watching traumatic videos or looking at disturbing images reduce the screen size dim the brightness and reduce the volume as these were all proven techniques to make the viewing less traumatic.

23:08So Steph watching programmes like Half End on her phone makes perfect sense.

23:13Steph:Oh, what a wise and very clever woman. Yes. That's smart. I mean, I totally get it. Because there are certain shows which I think I would struggle to watch on, for example, Boyd's enormous television, whereas I could probably do it on, you know, like a little phone screen. I love that whole email. In defence from a prosecutor. Oh, that's great. Oh, love it. This comes from Andrew, and Andrew says, Every week, every week, we always hear about Boyd's favourite movies, TV shows, etc. So I thought we need to settle this once and for all. I'm breaking down his favourites into three categories. Film, TV, Arsenal football players.

23:52Boyd needs to give us his top five for each category. This will then become canonical and can clearly never change. I'm going to see if we can guess one from each. Here we go. film he's guessing wait for it three days of the condor because he loves the genre no no not making boys top five tv the oc obviously i think he means the oa but sure

24:14Steph:if you want to put the oc you know what though k and i both love the oc definitely not the oc it's a great show benjamin mckenzie at his finest i mean he was all right in gotham but a low bar the oc was was good uh right okay and uh arsenal player liam brady uh correct and that that's a good one um oh i haven't got i can't do that now because i need boyd needs time to prepare clearly okay well we already discovered what your favorite film was boyd because you officially sanctioned annie hall as the best movie of all time i did yeah from the um from the here uncontroversial figure of Woody Allen.

24:56That's right, yeah. And obviously, the other three, so you get one other and then presumably all three of the Lord of the Rings films. So, that's your top five done.

25:06Steph:I would say Jaws. Yeah, Annie Hall, Jaws, Fellowship of the Ring, Two Towers, Return of the King. Done. I would say, if I had to guess yours, I would say, I would have said, I thought you liked Manhattan, actually, but anyway, Jaws, I would say the original Star Wars, A New Hope. No, no. Are we shaking his head? No, okay. 12 Angry Men? No, difficult. It's too difficult. Contenders would include Dressed to Kill, Rhonda Palmer, Apocalypse Now. Oh, of course, of course. The Godfather Part 2, Manhattan, as you say. Godfather Part 1 is better than The Godfather Part 2, but that's neither here nor there.

25:42No, no, no. Godfather Part 2 is better than Godfather Part 2. Everyone knows that. I disagree. And others, but yeah, those come to mind. Midnight Run.

25:50Steph:Okay, can... Oh, Midnight Run, great. Okay, you're going to need to compile this list and we're going to have to put it somewhere for people to see. Yeah, and much like Ross Geller's, it's going to be laminated and therefore cannot be changed. I am the Ross Geller in so many ways, yeah. If we have it laminated and then you meet one of the Arsenal players that's not laminated, that's going to be really embarrassing for you. Much like the Isabella Rossellini. You cannot sleep with any of the Arsenal players that are not on the laminated list. That is the rule of the list. Oh, okay. That's per friends.

26:19All right. Yeah. Yeah, okay. That's fair. See, I would have made a joke about another Arsenal player there, but I literally can't name one, so. No. Thierry Henry was in my, when we did the Q &A. He was in your dinner party. Dinner party, yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, he'd be in there for sure. Annika has a question for you, Steph. Now that you are part of the regular lineup, Annika would like to know what your favourite true crime documentaries and dramas based on true crimes are.

26:45Steph:Oh, you know what? I think that, thank you, Annika. I think, again, I do think I should do a list. I think somebody asked this before and I gave a bit of a list. I would say the ultimate one, probably my favourite one, is The Jinx, which is on Sky. That's probably the best of all time. I also love The Staircase and, oh God. Making a Murderer? Other ones. yeah making a murder but i would that's you know what i know for most people that kicked off their um their love of uh true crime um but what i would say probably again if i had five i would say paradise lost one two and three um which uh is a joe berlinger berlinger um and that is one of the greatest true crime trilogies of all time just in terms of the fact that you see that case right from the start all the way through to release because of because they take Alford please if you know anything about crime that is you are released but you are you are acknowledging the fact that people still think you're guilty and that you're not saying you you're not admitting guilt anyway so i would say those five because um paradise lost trilogy is three are the best ones so and staircase again is uh jean javier lestrade and that again there's there's there's two parts of that which is which is amazing so watch all of those and those would be my favorites and again i think i've said before i think i've said before um yeah and anything by joe Berlinger you should watch but I think I said before I don't love so much the kind of true crime dramatizations I know we watch remember we watched that Amanda Knox one which was on Netflix and I wasn't I wasn't loving that um but I do I much prefer a really a true crime documentary that's that's what I would say along those lines there Scott he wants you to make sure you keep all avid listeners updated on how you're continuing advocacy to free the 60 % of innocent prisoners progresses so i was so sorry about that you know what that's never gonna leave that's never gonna leave me i just it was like it was just a guttural reaction to something i don't remember what you said but i was like i will make up a statistic you cannot stop me yes yeah it was guttural scott also asked where to find our season one spoiler for the pit uh but we actually haven't done one so uh there is no season one spoiler for the pit i think we're going to roll some pit chat together when we do season two so don't worry you haven't missed it okay we have a question here from cameron and cameron says oh my goodness steph you are absolutely right which is frankly an unacceptable way to start an email uh murder she wrote has a who's who of hollywood you could say it's the six degrees of separation of television shows angela lansbury would have had all the connections there are old school actors like david mccallum shirley jones and connie Stevens and there are current actors of the day like Dee Wallace, Linda Blair and Jenny Agata and then like you said there is a who's who of future stars.

30:01I hope you don't mind I've compiled a list. Brian Cranston, Kate Mulgrew, Captain Janeway, George Clooney, Courtney Cox, Bill Mayer, Wendy Shah, Neil Patrick Harris, Anthony Michael Hall, LeVar Burton, Star Trek TNGOG, Amy Brenneman, Alice Krieg, Jane Leaves, Megan Mullally, Cynthia Nixon, Juliana Margulies, Janelle Maloney, Billy Zane Jerry Ryan 7 of 9 Joaquin Phoenix Summer Phoenix Andy Garcia and Joseph Gordon-Levitt wow

30:30Steph:you are incredible and also if you haven't watched that Megan Mullally wife of Nick Offerman from Will and Grace amazing comic actress if you haven't watched that Murder She Wrote episode it's really fascinating because she doesn't have her Karen voice that she has in Will and Grace so when I watched it years and years ago I was like oh this is so crazy she doesn't sound like Karen people if you know you know what I'm talking about but yeah oh god what a fantastic list thank you so much for that and the other amazing thing about angela lansbury if you didn't know this is that she saved her i think it's her daughter had got involved with the whole helter skelter madness um manson family and so she shipped them off to ireland to get them away from that so she's got this whole other real life true crime aspect to her actual life outside she's mean what a woman she's got everything rest may she rest in peace may she rest in peace um james hello i can i can see you i can see you with your eyes reaching for another um another question but just wanna i just wanna take you back to last week when you were a massive git and you out of nowhere basically decided that boyd and i were going to be subjected to a questionnaire that we had no prior knowledge of okay no prior knowledge of at all and we were both you know very kind to you and we did it and it was fine unfortunately for you i have compiled a list of questions which i have given you no notice of which i am going to ask you now yes are these are these evoke questions or are these different questions no right so i'll right so it is an amalgamation of three of the greatest questionnaires of all time the proust questionnaire okay and then what came out of the proust questionnaire which was the James Lipton app to studio questions, which there's 10 of, but I've not doing all of them.

32:21Steph:And then the Colbert questionnaire, which is Stephen Colbert, late night American TV host, and he's amazing. Okay. I like being in the same category as Stephen Colbert and Proust. Yes. So you should be happy about that. Yes. French essayist. Right. Now, are you ready? You're going to have to do them quick. You get no vetoes and Boyd and I are just going to laugh at you. Okay. I mean, that seems normal, but sure. Okay. Right. Are you ready? I mean, no, but carry on. Okay. Question one. Yes. What's the best sandwich? The best sandwich. I love an old school cheese and pickle sandwich, preferably in a baguette, still warm.

33:01Wow.

33:01Steph:What is your least favourite word? My least favourite word. Oh, my least favourite word. Reddit.

33:14oh the subreddit is gonna love that yes my least favorite word is reddit what is your greatest fear my greatest fear see previous answer um no my dread it the dread it no it's not it's not no reddit is not my greatest fear top five best um what am i afraid of i am afraid of people comedy crowds uh cold water cold water is my nemesis i have a this is absolutely true so so being immersed in cold water is that i have zero tolerance for it like none whatsoever i cannot cope so unless unless the swimming pool is literally bath temperature i can't cope with it cannot