In short
The hosts review Netflix horror series “Something Very Bad Is Going To Happen” (created by Hayley Z Boston) and debate whether it’s effective horror, overly contrived, and how it compares to David Lynch-style surrealism. They also discuss “sofa list” viewing habits and several listener questions about other shows.
Guests (podcast guests/reviewers)
Kay (calls herself a “gigantic scaredy cat,” found the episode constant dread and “shit me up”); James, Boyd Hilton, and Steph (regular hosts; no additional guest names besides Kay).
Key claims
The episode is tense and compelling with strong production design, but may be stretched from a potential two-hour film into eight episodes. It’s “meet the parents” horror with wedding-jitters themes: can you ever truly know someone before marrying them? Some viewers find the eccentricity and monologues excessive; others praise the surreal, unexplained moments.
Notable examples
A true-crime podcast on the drive; an abandoned baby at a remote rest stop; a tunnel scene requiring holding breath; taxidermy dogs and a strange cabin atrium; a trunk-at-the-bed moment; Jennifer Jason Leigh’s creepy mother performance; references to Lynch (Lost Highway, Twin Peaks vibe).
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOSetting the Stage for 'Something Bad'
0:45 to 2:29
Discussion about the premise of the show and initial impressions.
“That would have been a good joke, but yeah.”
Tension and Horror Elements
2:29 to 4:27
Deep dive into the horror aspects and character dynamics of the show.
“which Steph would have lapped up, all about a killer who leaves little mementos of, was it Barbie shoes?”
David Lynch Inspirations
4:27 to 6:41
Exploration of the show's stylistic choices and comparisons to David Lynch.
“a massive massive the whole thing is like a grandiose David Lynch festival of references to you know the kind of thing that he was doing.”
Character Dynamics and Relationships
6:41 to 7:50
Discussion on character motivations and the implications of their actions.
“but oh my God, what are they going to do?”
Unreliable Narrator and Themes
7:50 to 11:01
Consideration of the show's narrative style and themes of perspective.
“Also, I don't know how well adjusted she is.”
Listener Feedback on TV Shows
14:00 to 14:39
Discussion about listener feedback on missed TV shows, particularly 'The Night Of'.
“You missed one of the greatest TV shows ever, though, The Night Of, which was based on criminal justice.”
Misquoted Opinions
14:40 to 15:47
Hosts clarify a misquoted opinion about the 'Lord of the Rings' films and discuss personal tastes in cinema.
“I just remembered, which is that in the last...”
Stendhal Syndrome Explained
15:48 to 16:50
Explanation of Stendhal Syndrome and its relation to beauty and film.
Considering Books on TV
16:51 to 18:51
Hosts discuss potential books they would write about television and specific shows.
“I think it was coined by Stendhal when he first saw the beauty of Florence.”
Challenges of Oral Histories
18:52 to 22:26
James shares his experiences of attempting to create oral histories for 'The West Wing' and 'Battlestar Galactica'.
“It's an in-depth appreciation of Tolkien's trilogy.”
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Future Writing Aspirations
22:27 to 25:05
Discussion about aspirations for writing books on various topics, including 'The OA'.
“And Bradley, the irony, of course, was I finally got Bradley Whitford on the same day and I had to cut short my Martin Sheen interview so that I could speak to Bradley Whitford because they clashed together.”
Viewer Questions and Series Reviews
25:06 to 28:05
Responses to viewer questions and discussion on series reviews, specifically 'Veronica Mars' and 'Drops of God'.
“James, please look at the fourth one down.”
Exploring New Shows and Sofa Paralysis
28:05 to 29:12
Discussion on the challenges of starting new TV series after finishing others.
The Humor of Last One Laughing
29:12 to 31:14
Debate about Diane Morgan's monologue and humor styles on Last One Laughing.
“So this is why I've been trying very hard to resist starting another West Wing rewatch, because I want a thing that I can just turn on and it just be quite comforting.”
Listener Feedback on James's TV Preferences
31:14 to 33:35
A listener shares thoughts on James's TV preferences and critiques his viewing choices.
“In fact, we have another message here from Hayley, and this is more of an attack on me, so you'll enjoy it, but also it does relate to this kind of thing.”
Succession and Comedy Preferences
33:35 to 36:51
Discussion about the show Succession and why certain comedies resonate differently.
“I didn't think it was triumphantly funny.”
Cringe Comedy and Viewer Reactions
36:51 to 39:45
Exploration of cringe comedy and its impact on viewers, along with personal reactions.
“And that has excruciating cringe moments in it.”
Engaging with the Boydosphere
39:45 to 40:57
Listener shares their experiences with various podcasts connected to Boyd Hilton.
“that's kind of goofy and funny and some it's just very well observed.”
Introducing the Podcast and Host Promotions
42:00 to 42:37
Learn how to promote the Pilot TV podcast effectively.
Actor Typecasting and Role Perception
42:37 to 43:28
Explore how past roles influence perception of actors in new roles.
“For example, my first ever experience of Martin Short was in the first episode of The Morning Show.”
Influential Performances and Their Impact
43:28 to 44:36
Discuss significant performances that affect how we view actors.
“I'm also wary of starting The Rookie, because one of the main actors, Ryan Winter, also played a predator in The Good Doctor.”
Comedic Actors Transitioning to Serious Roles
44:36 to 46:39
Examine the challenges comedic actors face in dramatic roles.
“And I do, every time I see Anthony Hopkins, I do think of Hannibal Lecter pretty much.”
Impressions and Their Artistry
46:39 to 47:53
Delve into the art of impressions and their cultural significance.
Creative Uses of Sound in Unique Spaces
47:53 to 50:49
Discover innovative ways sound can enhance personal spaces.
“And foolishly, I attempted to do an impression of Freighton from Red Dwarf in front of Chris Barry, talking about cringe comedy.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:07Kay Ribeiro:Welcome to Pilot Plus, your extended guide to every show that matters. And today, something very bad is going to happen. And I say that in that particular intonation because last week we thought something bad was going to happen and it didn't, except it did because we didn't get screeners for something bad is going to happen. So something bad happened because we couldn't actually watch it, let alone talk about it. However, this week, something bad has happened we did get to see it not that it's bad but that's the name of the show and this has all got very very confusing but let's just say this is a show by Hayley Zed Boston it stars Camilla Maroney who you will remember from the recent series of the night manager as Rachel and Adam DiMarco as Nikki her fiance they're going to meet his parents quite how you get married without having met your Bose family to screen them for you know mentalism I don't know but that's where they are so they're doing the classic thing where she's meeting the family the first time they're going to an isolated home in the woods which is not at all creepy with its taxidermy dogs and all kinds of other strange things and let's just say things go awry along the way and if any show was i guess conceptualized as an anti-marriage story this well might be it okay did something very bad happen when you watched this it did but i've got to tell you i don't know if it's i've i've got a giant ego or i just am ready on defense but when you started talking I thought you were going to say something very bad has happened because Kay is joining us to review this.
1:32Boyd Hilton:I mean, that was implied, obviously. Yeah. That would have been a good joke, but yeah. Sorry, it's very early in the morning. Well, something bad happened for me because when I clicked onto Netflix and I saw the genre and it was horror, I was like, oh God. Because as you know, I'm a gigantic scaredy cat. And this, I think, delivers. I'd be interested to see you guys as aficionados if this is actually where it stands in the horror scales, so to speak. But for me, I was in a constant state of high tension, dread and fear. So, yeah, something very bad happened for me. But I think this is really good.
2:12I only watched it the first episode. As you say, they're on this road trip, the characters of Rachel and Nikki. and they're on the way to see the in-laws. I mean, what I would say is if I was Rachel, I would have turned back a long time ago on this journey because so many awful things happen. I mean, they're listening to a true crime podcast on the way there, which Steph would have lapped up, all about a killer who leaves little mementos of, was it Barbie shoes? Yeah, like a little Barbie shoe. And then they happen to pull up at a rest stop, with this random remote rest stop and find an abandoned baby in a car.
2:49And from that moment onwards, weird, creepy shit happens that is so terrifying that, yeah, like I said, I would go straight home. But if she doesn't, she persists and goes to the cabin. And things, if I thought stuff was bad before, they get far worse. So I think it sets out to be scary and creepy and terrifying, and it does all those things. And to put it in really basic terms, it shit me up.
3:21Oh, God. You can't take your eyes away from it. Well, I couldn't. I mean, there were moments when I had to shut my eyes for self-preservation, but it's so compelling. Like every single second you think something's going to happen. Because of the title. Indeed. I kind of enjoyed this tribute to David Lynch I thought it was quite entertaining quite very well very nicely shot and production designed and it looks great lots of snowy kind of outdoor location work it was good everywhere they go everything they do is kind of weird and freaky and so they go on the way there they go to this rest stop or this kind of place where there's a baby abandoned in a car in the cold and then she goes to a weird bar and he goes off to somewhere else weird they're all doing weird shit and everything's weird and I did enjoy it while it was on but I do feel it's a bit and it's a massive massive the whole thing is like a grandiose David Lynch festival of references to you know the kind of thing that he was doing.
4:38It's like Lost Highway meets Twin Peaks meets 5 ,000 other David Lynch things. Have I mentioned that it's very much like David Lynch thing? It might have come up. So, I'm kind of torn between the fact that I did enjoy it whilst it was on. Everyone's in it's very good. Adam DeMarco, who's in season two of The White Lotus, is very good. And Jennifer Jason Leigh does her absolute best. Jennifer Jason Leigh, creepy persona impression as the mother but i found it all a bit too contrived i think is my problem with it i think in a show where every so it's almost like everyone's taking part in an attempt to find do something very bad that's going to happen to affect the impending nuptials and of course by the way we didn't i didn't even mention we haven't even mentioned this starts with said nuptials something bad is happening has happened and it flashes back of course of course it does five days or whatever to start the story.
5:36So it all felt a bit, yeah, like there have to be the taxi, the stuffed dogs and the weirdly designed house with the atrium. There was like something out of the OA, by the way. Remember the atrium where everyone was - Well, also like the OA is that the title of the show
5:51Boyd Hilton:doesn't turn up until 45 minutes into the show. Absolutely, yeah, exactly. The sister tells him this nasty horror story to just establish that maybe this nasty horror story thing might happen at some point. Oh, about the Sorry Man. Yeah, the Sorry Man story. It was like one thing after another that they all have to deal with. I thought it was, because of course this is going to fill up eight episodes, by the way. I don't know how many you watched, Kate. Just one, I presume. Yeah, just one. I mean, how can this possibly? A part of me is so intrigued by how it can possibly carry on for another seven hours that I'm actually probably will start watching more of it just to see what the fuck.
6:33This is like a two-hour film to me that is being stretched to within breaking point. And it might have been a perfectly good two-hour film, but oh my God, what are they going to do? So I'm fascinated by that. I mean, I have read some American reviews that have said there's one episode that will be like a bottle episode where it focuses on one person and their history or whatever. Yeah, I mean, there is stuff you can do, but oh my God. I wouldn't say that exactly has the most thrusting narrative out there. It's quite slow. Don't need the word thrusting so early in the morning, boys. Yeah, sorry.
7:08It's quite slow and deliberate. It's quite deliberately slow to ratchet up the kind of the suspense slash tension of the situation that everyone's in. Everyone's kind of, well, our two protagonists are finding every single thing happening creepy. Well, Camilla Moroni's character anyway. Adam DiMarco is part of the family that's creeping around, of course. And I guess the bottom line is supposed to be, you know, do either of them, does she really know enough about him? And having not met this family of kooks and weird people, freaky people, should she really, you know, should she really, she's being warned not to marry him left, right and centre.
7:45I guess it's about trying to be about, you know, do you know, can you ever know someone well enough to agree to fucking marry them? Right. So. Also, I don't know how well adjusted she is. I mean, it's not like she's your... Of course. Yeah, she makes decisions that are nuts, of course. Yeah, she has to, to maintain the spookiness of the whole thing. She likes nothing better than going on late nights wanderings around the enormous wooden cabin in history. Also, FYI, I would never drive in a car with her because her technique of driving with her eyes shut and singing and head thrashing, I was like, no, it's not safe.
8:23I haven't read the highway code in a long time, but I don't think it's in there.
8:25Boyd Hilton:I had anxiety about that. There's genuinely pissed off. Please look at the road. Please look at the road. Please look at the road. Like, it really freaked me out. Yeah, that scene was the scariest scene, funnily enough. They have a thing where when they go into tunnels, they have to hold their breath. I mean, they're fucking driving. Yeah, it's like a massive long tunnel. That was an effective scene. Yeah, it's full of effective moments. Don't get me wrong. It's just, yeah, it's a bit much, is my verdict.
8:50Kay Ribeiro:I don't think this series is what it purports to be. uh i think it's very deliberate in that it's this weird kind of smoothie of strange different conflicting ideas uh because as you say they're just going from a to b in this first episode they're trying to get to this house you know this way she's going to meet his family and on the way you have you know the abandoned baby a scary peeping tom you know the guy she stabs a weird bartender you've got this sort of like this story of a serial killer and then there's potentially a supernatural thing and then the sounds in the woods there's tax like there are so many different things and it's not about any one of those things it feels like all of those things are deliberate portents about this wedding so you know you could read this as an entirely non-supernatural entirely mundane thing about someone's own neuroses it's like wedding jitters writ large um but it but
9:43Boyd Hilton:there are it's it is very unsettling and it is quite scary but i read up on this a little bit and i i'm from my understanding is this isn't quite what it appears to be and once it sort of like lays out still once it shows its hand i think it's it's a very different show but i think you have to persevere a little bit to get to that point until you realize what story it is they're actually trying to tell um so actually i found it quite fascinating tell us how i think so yes okay so i think you know it's one of these things where you should probably stick with um but i thought it was really fun that there were the one bit that just really blew my mind is you know there are lots of surreal touches there's a moment involving a trunk at the foot of the bed oh my god i was just james i know by that point i was just beside myself just have sex already you're talking to james or the uh it was such an odd thing to just drop in that without any explanation or exploration and i i like that about it i like that i ended this first episode not knowing what the hell was going on but being incredibly tense all the way through it like it definitely had its claws in me i think it's uh i thought it was fun so yeah i i think it's good i think it's worth persevering with because it's it's a curiosity and certainly has an originality to it i've not seen anything quite like it so uh i would i would maybe give it a go as long as you have uh the constitution for it because yeah basically a terrifying meet the parents yeah very terrifying meet the parents i think there's a red flag if your in-laws turn out to be jennifer jason lee and ted levin you run like that's it you just run you leave yeah right there absolutely it reminded me of that do you remember the charlie caulfurman film i'm thinking of ending things you've seen that film which is seen it no that's got a lot of just jesse plemons jesse buckley and that's got a lot of like we're driving to a mysterious hellscape and everyone's being weird kind of vibe it's quite similar to that um and i hated that film because it's it's so aggravating and annoying and but this was this wasn't i didn't hate this this is yeah it is fun you're right it's fun i just i guess i just if every single part because that actually it's a good point about the um the thing at the end of the bed and all that and the sex the sex fetish is that everyone's doing weird shit everyone's behaving so weirdly everyone launches monologues about freaky weird things you can't step foot out of your car or without you know exactly as you said you know the weird thing something with the barmaid and the bloody creepy guy look at it's like it's enough already it's like you know i i love this stuff but i think it's almost building and maybe the twitter maybe scale back a bit yeah just I don't know just I think maybe like the stuffed dogs there's so much eccentricity going on it's like maybe we didn't need to have every single thing this reaching peak eccentricity weird freakiness so maggoty fox okay yeah stuffed dog no yeah maybe yeah yeah something yeah yeah
12:48Kay Ribeiro:I think there's a there's a hint of unreliable narrator to it as well because they make a point of showing that she's stoned a lot of the time and obviously we see things through her perspective it so i think that oh yeah i mean that's not subtle at all yeah i mean at one point she's the barman says are you stoned yeah and she's like yeah yeah just in case we had missed that yeah it's not subtle yeah it's not so yeah i i'm just yeah i'm quite conflicted about the whole thing but yeah so you're going to carry on watching it jones is that what you're telling it yeah i i'm adding it to the sofa list yeah what what an achievement so sometime in 2028
13:21Boyd Hilton:yeah uh sometime a long way from now i will finish something very bad is going to happen We should say it's created by Hayley Z Boston, which is a brilliant name. Yes, who did Brand New Cherry Flavour. Yes, which was a one and done Netflix.
13:34Kay Ribeiro:Okay, super. That then is already in its entirety available on Netflix because it is from last week, but we couldn't watch it. Time now to dust off the post bag.
13:51Kay Ribeiro:Triage. it's the post bag okay woohoo right where do we even begin where do we even begin right let's have a look can i choose one can i choose a number and you just go down go down four the fourth one down well i'm going to mention something that just came in over instagram as we were recording first and this came from sarah morgan and sarah said hi pilot tv on your recent listener question you were talking about the best TV that went from the UK to the US, or vice versa. You missed one of the greatest TV shows ever, though, The Night Of, which was based on criminal justice.
14:30Boyd Hilton:That is a good point. Yes, we should remember that. We didn't. But, as always, it is not meant to be exhaustive. While you're sifting through the thing, I have a public announcement to make, actually, I just remembered, which is that in the last... You're going to be the new host of House of Games. No, no, that's been sorted out. It's my machine. I would watch it. Yeah, thanks. Boyd Hilton's House of Games. I mean, it's probably slightly less of a shawl than Michael Sheen doing it. I don't know. No, no, no. It's in the last Empire podcast, James. Oh, God. What have I done? Yes. There was discussion of Lord of the Rings films, and you quoted me.
15:01You quoted me as saying, I didn't think they were very good. That's what you said. I have never said that. It's not my point about the Lord of the Rings films. My point is they're not - That's certainly my memory of your position of Lord of the Rings films. Something very bad has just happened. This is a bit like when you - A misquote. you characterise Kay's lack of interest in sci-fi or fantasy as being oh no Doctor Who that I didn't like Doctor Who she's a hater of Doctor Who and despises fantasy and hates bad news burns it on an altar it's a simplistic reading shall we say of the situation I've never I think that's my whole thing really isn't it Boyd so here's my public announcement which I probably should do on the proper on the main on the proper pod wow Boyd sticks two fingers up
15:42Boyd Hilton:at our subscribers straight away I'll do it I'll do it on the main one as well just but yeah I've never said I didn't think they were good or very good even I think they are very good they're just not among the best films of all time that was my argument that was my point I was making so you had you said this you said oh boy doesn't think they're very good and Kobe thankfully agreed with me even though I don't think that and then Helen's like oh what an idiot Helen you know oh your beloved Helen this is what it's all about this is what it's all about this is what it's all about yeah and Chris this is the root of the issue she was disgusted and Chris Hewitt could barely even speak he's so no Chris Chris feels the same way he can't stand them oh okay fine much like yourself because you hate those films so much yeah well that didn't come across and cannot stand to watch them it's a dire double down yeah i'm well the way i figure it is like there's just degrees of wrongness boyd and you know what's the imprepentient for a pound oh wow oh my god anyway i think i think i've made i think i've cleared that up thank you james c trump yes oh dear dear oh dear boy hater of middle earth gilton god no it's the hell it's the helen issue you're gonna have to tell her in person and correct her yeah yeah right ah we have another correction for boydy this one comes from cat
16:57Kay Ribeiro:cat says that loved listening to plus recently to hear stendhal syndrome mentioned or as i know it
17:02Boyd Hilton:stendhalism oh uh it's kind of the opposite of how boyd described oh i knew i'd get this wrong
17:09Kay Ribeiro:Stendhalism is the feeling of almost distress when looking upon things of great beauty, being overwhelmed to the point of feeling faint or sick when viewing stunning places or things. I think it was coined by Stendhal when he first saw the beauty of Florence. Whenever I go to a beautiful place, I will usually say, I've been stendhalised. Oh, wow. That's interesting, but I'm not sure if the film itself reflects that, basically. But yeah, that's interesting. It's interesting because it's a fact. Yeah, it's interesting because it's a fact. Do you get Stendhal syndrome when you watch Lord of the Rings, boy?
17:49Boyd Hilton:You're physically moved to illness by its beauty. Or by the beauty of when Arsenal wins. Do you just want to faint on the spot like a Victorian lady?
17:57Kay Ribeiro:I mean, do you swoon? That's more accurate, yeah. okie dokie right this comes from hayley hayley says hi hayley i just finished listening between episodes of pilot and pilot plus to when gavin met stacy and everything in between and was met with the dulcet tones of tv's boyd hilton reading the intro it reminded me that one of my favorite biographies of all time inside little britain was also written by tv's own boyd hilton wow given you're all consummate journalists and writers i'd love to know if there are any books you'd like to write about tv and if so what show slash performer slash creative would they be i've got some suggestions to get you started on the obvious ones boyd should definitely do larry david steph slash k clearly you're interchangeable at this point should do bill lawrence and james can expand on his massive dissertation of the west wing oh my god that's a great shout steph and I would co-author uh an annual book on shrinking yeah absolutely and we'd have to go to LA and spend extensive time there for it um do a lot of set visits hanging out with Brett etc um so yeah if anyone's listening who can action that that'd be great who's this brilliant uh correspondent this is Hayley thanks Hayley um who's read my two two books um yes I mean I'm trying to think of the one that isn't Kerb but I mean yeah I mean we can't talk about the one that you're writing at the moment.
19:25No, I am. Yeah, it should be finished.
19:27Boyd Hilton:Which is exciting. Which will be revealed in due course. Yeah, hopefully finished. Spoiler, it's about Lord of the Rings. It's an in-depth appreciation of Tolkien's trilogy. Yeah. 10 reasons why I hate it. Yeah, I've got to finish it by this time next week, actually. Really? Yeah. You can do it, Boydo. Thanks. But, yeah, I'd love to do a Larry David book. Yeah, that would be incredible. And, of course, I did interview him for 50 minutes. Yes, Boyd, but... Recently. Sorry to interrupt you. Yeah, go on. He told you to get in touch, and he did not.
19:59Kay Ribeiro:Yes, I know, I know. You spurned him. I know. You spurned Larry David. Yeah. That's a bold move. That's a bold move if you want to write his book, is what I'd say. Yeah, Keisha referred to the fact that we discussed the ending, the finale of Curb, and I talked about my theories about it. He said, oh, you know, because at that point I hadn't seen it. He was like, when you've seen it, get back in touch with me and let me know what you think. but I still think the whole thing was set up like a Larry David double joke whereby the character of Larry David would be horrified if someone actually took that seriously and went, Hi, Larry, it's me.
20:33These are my thoughts on the finale. He'd be like, what the fuck? So that was why I did not get back. Yeah, fair enough. And I think I was right not to, I have to say. James, what would you write a book on?
20:46Kay Ribeiro:I don't know. I mean, the West Wing one is a good start. I tried to do, because my West Wing thing is what, 35 ,000 words, I think, in total, if you include all the little side articles that I put together, like the stuff about the Goldfish Bowl and Ainsley Hayes and Joshua Molina and stuff. But I tried to do another one of those. I started it, which was a Battlestar Galactica one. And I spoke to Ron D. Moore, and I spoke to Tricia Helfer, and I spoke to Edward James Olmos. Because when you do these massive sweeping oral histories, you kind of think, who are the linchpins? Who are the people I have to have without which it isn't a goer.
21:20Kay Ribeiro:And you start with them because once you've got them in the bag, everything else is gravy. Like you can do it. So when I did the West Wing one, it was all about getting Aaron Sorkin, Martin Sheen. Like those for me were like, if I need both of them, if I don't get either one of those, I can't do this. Although to be fair,
21:33Boyd Hilton:Hollywood Reporters did one and they didn't get Martin Sheen and I did. Anyway.
21:39Kay Ribeiro:Child. You grotesque monster. I tried to get both of those two for the West Wing and I couldn't get Martin Sheen. I couldn't get a response from him and I couldn't get Aaron Sorkin. And so the whole thing was dead in the water. And then weirdly, a period of time later, Aaron Sorkin's people came back to me of their own accord and said, are you still interested in doing this thing? Cause Aaron's actually got some time now. He might actually be up for it. I was like, Oh my God. And then I set out to get Martin Sheen. Now, because Aaron Sorkin was already on board, I felt like I had to go ahead with it at that point.
22:05Kay Ribeiro:So then I started getting all the cast and the, and I really struggled to get hold of Bradley Whitford and to get hold of Martin Sheen. Those were the two really difficult ones. And Martin Sheen, I ended up emailing his kids. That's literally how I got hold of him. I was just spamming his family. and in the end I got an email from his wife saying,
22:18Boyd Hilton:for the love of God, leave my kids alone. Yes, this is a home phone number. Martin will speak to you this afternoon. And so I finally got him, but it was genuinely by stalking his family. Oh, yes, James. And Bradley, the irony, of course, was I finally got Bradley Whitford on the same day and I had to cut short my Martin Sheen interview so that I could speak to Bradley Whitford because they clashed together. So that was a whole thing. I got quite a lot of time with both of them.
22:41Kay Ribeiro:That was fine. Battlestar Galactica, though, I got those three. But the way I figured it, I thought you need Tricia Helfer, you need ronty moore you need edward james almost but you also need katie sackoff and i couldn't get katie sackoff that was the thing like that was where i fell down i had real difficulty and i could not pin down katie sackoff so without starbuck i didn't feel like i could do a massive you know huge whole cast or history so in the end i stopped at that point i did do in the very first issue of pilot tv that we put on newsstands i believe it was the first one i might not be the first it was certainly one of the ones we did one of the one of the issues of pilot that we put out I did put a kind of truncated version of that Battlestar Galactica piece with just those three people that I got but yeah I never got the whole cast because Starbucks, Starbucks burned me Sack Off Sacked You Off She did, exactly that Every time you're talking about that I'm just hearing Starbucks I'm thinking why is he talking about coffee?
23:30Kay Ribeiro:I wanted coffee, just really wanted coffee and that was it James I think you should try and convert your extended essay for the West Wing into a book but include how it all came together that made it all. Yeah, well, I mean, that's what the whole piece is, which of course you know, Kay, because you've read it so many times. But what I am tempted to do is to drop in the people I've had since then. So since then, I've interviewed people like Elizabeth Moss, who came into the studio last week and talked to her about the West Wing. I thought, that's a quote. I'm going to drop into my piece. I checked that interview.
23:59Kay Ribeiro:There you go. I interviewed Al Gore and spoke to him about the West Wing. I thought, because I tried to get Bill Clinton and Al Gore for that piece, and obviously neither of them got back to me, but I did get Al Gore in the end and I did talk to him about the West Wing,
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24:10Boyd Hilton:so I could drop those quotes in as well. So it's growing all the time. Can you imagine? I did. I put in a request for Bill Clinton. We used to do a running joke. He's above and beyond for his pieces. When Kay was at Heat and had to get the Heat interview every week, we used to do running jokes at me about people like Hillary Clinton being on the list. Why haven't you got Hillary Clinton yet? Put your finger out. People used to seriously say to me, so can you put him for Michelle Obama? And I'm like, I'm sorry, what? Or can you get Prince William? And I'm just getting in touch with Clarence House and I was like, I don't understand.
24:42Have you actually lost your mind? But you have to pay lip service. I was like, yeah, sure. Just file that for never going to happen. I'll definitely ask that. 23rd of never. I've just remembered what I would write a book about, actually. The show that I would write a book about is The OA. That's what I'd like to write a book about, yeah, for sure. And one day, maybe, you know.
25:02Kay Ribeiro:One day. One day, maybe you shall. Okie dokie. Right. Another question, me thinks. Let's have a look. Me thinks. You've got me thinks. gone all Monty Python and Holy Grail. James, please look at the fourth one down. I want to see if it's a good one. Alright, fourth one down, you say. The fourth one down comes from Jack Wright. And Jack Wright says... Hi, Jack Wright. I love you all dearly. That includes you, Steph. Keeping the boys on your toes. You are not, Steph. You are okay, but I see what he's doing there. But he says, you cannot judge a series having seen only one or two episodes. And while on that point, it might be said that you definitely cannot judge a series by having not seen any episodes.
25:40Kay Ribeiro:The shade being thrown at Veronica Mars needs to stop. See, Kay, unfortunately, this is aimed very squarely at Stephen Boyd, but you're going to have to shoulder the brunt of the program. Well, I haven't seen it either, so he can come for me too. Well, there you go. Veronica Mars is 100 % a true female TV icon. The series are all brilliant and well worth checking out if you haven't. Steph, I think you would love it, but don't take my word for it. Nancy Drew meets Philip Marlowe, and the result is pure nitro. Stephen King. hands down the best show on television right now and proof that tv can be far better than cinema kevin smith best show ever seriously no yeah i've never gotten more wrapped up in a show i wasn't
26:20Boyd Hilton:making and maybe even more than those these guys know what they're doing on a level that intimidates me it's the harry potter of shows joss whedon now that last one is extraordinary the harry potter of shows by josh weaton i mean that's an endorsement that yeah we should probably skip over anyway he says i would challenge anyone to watch veronica mars and not instantly fall in love
26:48Kay Ribeiro:so where does he stand on it though i think he likes it okay so we did this we did a for international women's day we did a mount rushmore of kind of female characters from tv shows and i was trying not to pick some from the west wing because it's too tedious and printable uh and i I chose Veronica Mars and Boyd and Steph heaped, heaped humiliation on me for doing so. No, I don't remember. Again, this is like Lord of the Rings all over again. I don't remember doing that, but yeah, I hadn't seen it. Heaped, I tell you, heaped. Is James going through his porcupines phase or something?
27:19Boyd Hilton:Clearly. Yeah. Yeah. I was ridiculed. I was pilloried for it. God, I wasn't either, James. Exactly. You missed an opportunity there.
27:27Kay Ribeiro:But yes, Veronica Mars is fabulous. I was on set of, veronica mars the movie and i was in a veronica mars documentary talking about veronica mars who knew you've been sewn up you're like you're on there yeah i'm in the pocket of big mars it's true uh jack also goes on to say in a little p.s i'm dying to hear what k made of series two of drops of god was typical that her first week not doing the pod was the same week that that was reviewed for what it's worth i really enjoyed it almost as much as the first but not really sure what the point of it was yes okay so listen jack i am gonna continue with it i watched that in fact i thought i had mentioned it before i left it might also um what i was watching um because i'd started it before i left and i watched the first one or two and i really enjoyed it i mean if you like the first series it's more of the same but i'm sort of i do need to continue it but i was thinking at the time what's kind of the point of this like the first one was all about you know this challenge they had to do to see who would um inherit this the estate and the business etc and now they're going on a new quest set by their deceased father again and it's kind of like okay i feel like we've done it but yeah it's so beautiful to look at and um you know shot in so many lovely locations and you know the writing is good and the acting etc so it is worth watching but um i need to catch up jack is the truth of it and once i have i will you could give you my thoughts too far down your sofa list that's a problem yeah because i there's oh my god there's so many things that i'm currently obsessed with so it has dropped down but i will by by the next couple of months i'll watch it do you get because i've i had this recently like the paralysis of the sofa list whereby when you finish a series and then you're like right i need to start a new one and you and you you almost can't summon the kind of mental fortitude to dive into another
29:23Boyd Hilton:massive show that you haven't yet started but you almost need one that you've already begun so you
29:27Kay Ribeiro:can just slide into this but i think starting a new one from scratch is quite an undertaking do you know what i'm absolutely understand what you what you mean because i've got so many things that i need to start and with everything like just world everything that's going on instead of like diving into a new engrossing series that's going to take every inch of my breath you know i will instead think no i need something light and i'll dip into last one laughing because i just think i I need some joy. I need some joy. That is absolutely fair. So this is why I've been trying very hard to resist starting another West Wing rewatch, because I want a thing that I can just turn on and it just be quite comforting.
30:07Kay Ribeiro:And if I watch five minutes or 10 minutes, it really doesn't make any difference. Like I don't need to sort of dig in for a whole episode. But you mentioned Last One Laughing. We have a question about Last One Laughing. Oh, yes. Bring it on. This comes from Kush, and Kush says, love your work. Just wondering if any of you legends have seen Diane Morgan's monologue on Last One Laughing, where she intermittently farts. It is hilarious, and the season has such a great lineup. Sam Campbell, Diane Morgan, and Romesh Ranganathan are all so deadpan and quick-witted. Yes, I did. Boy, did you see that one?
30:36Kay Ribeiro:I haven't seen that, no. It is so funny. James, I think you'll... Oh, in fact, when I was watching, I was thinking, oh, I wish James would watch this, but I know, I suspect you would say, I don't get this. I can't believe you have James up on. I don't understand what I'm watching. I can't believe you had James uppermost in your mind while you were watching Last One Laughing. No, because I was thinking about the pod. But yeah, it sounds really basic, but she is reading this monologue and just will pause regularly just to fart, like make these fart noises. But they're so varied in tone and length and it is hilarious.
31:13And the comedians are trying so hard not to laugh, but you can see that it has tickled them because it's such a basic thing, right? it's like watching someone fall over and you know finding it funny and uh and she just does it with such a deadpan face it's it's genius so i did see that bit i've watched all i think i've watched all five episodes the final one is yet to drop i'm desperate to see it um because i have to say this bunch of people these this year they are so good at not laughing like so many more people had gone out at this stage last year or whenever the first series was on but these guys they are really holding it together so i'm excited to see who wins i think i would absolutely clean up on last one yeah you would you'd be the perfect you'd be the we should do our own version of it where james i just look completely unmoved all the way through what would what would make you laugh what would
32:07Boyd Hilton:what would set you off it's very hard to say i don't know that i can that i can distill it down into words uh i know the kind of things i find funny but even the kind of things i do find funny rarely make me laugh out loud uh in tv shows and films so you're internally chuckling yes laughing on the inside yeah that'd be the name of my autobiography oh my god okay yeah i was going to carry on talking about it but i won't but um i i i love that show and it gives me a lot of joy um and exactly i think what a lot of us need right now yeah well i've heard very good
32:45Kay Ribeiro:things about it. In fact, we have another message here from Hayley, and this is more of an attack on me, so you'll enjoy it, but also it does relate to this kind of thing. Hi Pilot Team, I've been listening to you for years. I'm an OG Pilot Plus subscriber. Thank you very much, Hayley. Listening twice a week to you chat away makes my commute bearable. The thing I've learned over the years is I have a pretty similar taste in TV to James Brackets, the horror. I don't know what this says about me as a person, but I do love good sci-fi escapism and West Wing is one of the best shows of all time. but capital letters but what i find infuriating is the 10 of the time where james completely
33:23Boyd Hilton:writes off a show because of some quirk in his quote unquote rules of what he will and won't watch the dislike of succession will always baffle me because it's by far one of the best shows in the past decade but it's things like i can't do cringe comedy yet faulty towers and red dwarf are beloved i can't do assault etc yet game of thrones is an all-time favorite oh my god hayley yes it's not the shows james tries and dislikes as i feel it's part of being checks notes a film tv critic but it's the refusing to even try something because of broad preconceptions
33:54Kay Ribeiro:latest example being snl uk as an aussie i've always found us snl to be very hit and miss not my humor most of the time because of this i basically only tune in if it's a host i love but the uk version having uk humor and sharp writing is a huge bonus and having given it a go i was pleasantly surprised at how funny i found it sure james you may not like one thing but why miss out on an entire genre for the rest of your life because then he can be he can think he's
34:23Boyd Hilton:right about it i mean of course now to be fair i will just rally to my own defense fair about
34:29Kay Ribeiro:yourself i did watch some of the first episode of snl uk because we had a discussion about it and i watched some of the skits and some of it i thought was actually decent i i on the whole preferred it to SNL US by far. I thought it was much funnier. I didn't think it was triumphantly funny. Some of the skits, for example, The Cold Open, I thought were quite weak. But also, some of them were very clever and well put together. I didn't watch episode two, however. Did you guys see the second installment? Yes. What was it like? It was very good. Yeah. Jamie Dornan. Better than the first? In some ways, yeah.
35:00I think so. It is really good. Are they warming up more? I think it started really well. I think they've got a really good team of writers and performers who are who are doing a good job yeah that's you know i meant more like you know when you do the second you're just gaining momentum and like yeah yeah maybe you feel like it was i think it was yeah i think i think i think the first episode they did a they did a great job and they carried that on pretty much um with the with episode two uh and i'm interested to see where it goes from here for sure yeah they announced jim jett whitehall's gonna be doing it a week after next she's obviously really good booking but that can i just say that takedown of james by it.
35:37Who was that listener? Hayley. This is Hayley. What a brilliantly written and conceived takedown. And yes, an expression of all of our fury and frustration at the randomness, the seeming randomness and hypocrisy of James's television. I have to defend him a little. No, you don't, Kay. You don't have to do anything. I am as surprised as you these words are coming out my mouth, but I have to just say he does, and because of the podcast, obviously, he does give comedies a go because he has to and he does do that i mean obviously i do absolutely stand with hayley i stand with hayley he's a hypocrite an oxymoron essentially but aren't we all with the emphasis on moron yes yeah exactly heavy on the moron um so yeah but
36:25Kay Ribeiro:and this podcast has given me cause to see things like bait recently which i thought was genius and something and I'm like this is really funny stuff and I would never have sat down to actually watch that but having watched it I was like this is great and I plan to watch the rest of it although to be fair I have not yet but I did it is on the sofa list which I thought was pretty good but uh the Fawlty Towers Red Dwarf Succession sort of triumvirate if you mentioned that and I will say I gave Succession a proper go like I watched the entire first season the whole first no actually
36:57Boyd Hilton:that's not true i watched i think all but the last two episodes of the first season and and i had a
37:02Kay Ribeiro:couple of full starts like i watched the first two thought no i'm not watching this and then everyone loved it so i went back started again and watched all the way through to i think a couple before the end and i just it got to the moment i was just like i'm just not enjoying this wait wait wait you stopped just before the end yeah the end of the first season yeah because i got a season all right cool yeah because well how many how many episodes body are there per season succession first season roughly 10 10 i think something like that so let's say i watched eight of them um and i got in and i couldn't quite put my finger on i remember because we discussed it on this podcast i couldn't remember i couldn't quite identify why i wasn't enjoying it but i wasn't enjoying it and wasn't it because that you didn't you feel like they're all too mean to each other there was element of that because initially i thought it's just it fails the bellend test they're just all assholes and i don't like them i think there's an element of that sure but i honestly think it's the cringe it's the cringe comedy in it that i just find quite uncomfortable and painful and that's why i wasn't enjoying it and it just it was an endurance test for me getting through that first season so i i did abandon it you did a reverse ferret on the white lotus do you remember yes that's interesting yes it's season three of that but then i didn't find season three of the white lotus to be overly cringe comedy century there were certainly elements of it i wonder whether i'm also getting my tolerance has been built up ever so slightly because I watched a new film called The Drama, which is out, or by the time we go out, will have been out last week, which with Zendaya and Robert Pattinson.
38:25Boyd Hilton:And that has excruciating cringe moments in it. And there were large parts of that film where I literally had to just close my eyes and pretend I wasn't there. But I got through it, and I really liked the film regardless. So maybe I'm growing as a person. But yeah, I'm seeing it tonight. It's very good. It's well worth it. But Fawlty Towers definitely has cringe,
38:46Kay Ribeiro:but it's more I think over fast than the very kind of pointed painful cringe of something like The Office or Curb I don't think you can you can you can you can really conflate the two um yeah so what we're saying is you've got you've got a cringe scale so it's like you can't take painful cringe but slapstick cringe there's a slapstick awkwardness to Fawlty Towers but I don't think Fawlty Towers is overtly cringe definitely there's cringe to it of course there is but it's not pointed it's not whereas something like The Office you almost feel like they're twisting the knife it's deliberately calibrated to be as excruciating as possible like that's its purpose you look at like some of the kendall scenes in succession they are designed to make you squirm that is their point and i don't enjoy that but the studio when he started singing or was it rapping or something exactly that exactly that yeah but the studio which is full of those moments you you like that why it took me a year to get through it but you did you loved it yeah i know i like it but also it has, it's not entirely cringe.
39:44Kay Ribeiro:There's some stuff in it that's kind of goofy and funny and some it's just very well observed. It's pretty. It has quite a few different, I think, flavours of comedy in the studio.
39:53Boyd Hilton:But yes, there is a lot of cringe in it. I think what we're getting to is really there is no rhyme or reason to learn this. That's right. You, Kate, were defending the hypocrisy now. I know. I regress it instantly. What can I say? But yeah, I can justify all of these points as well. Sorry. To yourself. Yeah, not to anyone else. I'm going to defend myself robustly there.
40:16Kay Ribeiro:Let's see what else we've got in this particular bag. Oh, the word Boydosphere has come up. Let's see what this is about. Yes. This comes from Ewan. Ewan says, I'm a long-time listener, first-time emailer. Firstly, I thought I'd mention that I feel like I'm in the Boydosphere when it comes to my podcast listening habits. Firstly, I've subscribed to Pilot Plus, so I have double helpings of TV's Boyd Hilton. I also love listening to Front Row on Radio 4, on which Boyd made an appearance to discuss the Oscars and Claudia Winkerman's chat show. And lastly, I enjoy listening to old XFM episodes of the Ricky Gervais show, where Boyd was mentioned frequently as an early advocate for Carl Pilkington.
40:53Boyd Hilton:So I'm now surrounded on all sides and across time by Boyd, or as Carl once called him, Baldy Boyd. He needs to also listen to the Arsenal podcast and then he's got a full set. That's true. He's missing out there, clearly.
41:06Kay Ribeiro:Might not be an Arsenal fan. Could be, yeah. Remind me the name of your Arsenal podcast, Boyddy. Footballistically Arsenal. Which has only come up once on this podcast. This podcast we've been doing for eight years. You are the worst self-promoter in this. I did a day, listen, there was a day of Arsenal-related events at the British Library last Saturday, and I hosted a panel discussion of Arsenal podcasts and fan media, et cetera, with Adam Davis was on the panel and various other Arsenal-related acolytes, and I completely didn't plug it. What? Boys. I plugged it on my own socials but I mean on this podcast I didn't mention it whatsoever No but you actually went to an event specifically which is drawing in fans of Arsenal and you didn't mention the podcast Right we're going to help you with this point and this is what we're going to do No I mentioned my podcast on the day that's why I was there I was representing my Arsenal podcast I mean I didn't plug on this podcast you know blah blah blah I see that they're very separate but there must be Arsenal fan people here listening to this I know there are in fact Get in touch Anyway yes James what i think you should do void is now every time you do a q a or any kind of public appearance you're in tv you should start everything by saying i am pilot tv's boyd hill do subscribe to pilot tv podcast and you need to do a little monologue at the top of every show plugging this podcast okay yeah um and then and then at the end you need to recommend that everyone go and watch lord of the rings no i think you just need to get the pilot logo tattooed on your forehead is actually the real dedication that would also work too yeah subtle pilkinson pointed out there's lots of room so you know it's fun and he's a fellow bald man i'm allowed to say oh my god that's a bald on bald attack i've never seen that before i know extraordinary an actual bald hate crime by a hate by a bald person unbelievable i'm a self-hating bald eagle
42:53Boyd Hilton:hate speech from a baldy oh we've lost you and his question anyway hewan says i've had the
43:01Kay Ribeiro:experience of watching certain actors in certain roles and prejudging their characters because of what I've seen them in previously. For example, my first ever experience of Martin Short was in
43:09Boyd Hilton:the first episode of The Morning Show. How was your first experience of Martin Short in the first episode of The Morning Show? Anyway, that's a whole other thing.
43:16Kay Ribeiro:In which he played a celebrity sexual predator. Many months later, I started watching Only Murders in the Building, where Short plays a camp and lovable director. I have to be honest, it took time for me to adjust to him as a nice person. I'm also wary of starting The Rookie, because one of the main actors, Ryan Winter, also played a predator in The Good Doctor. I was wondering if the Pilot TV pod team have experienced anything similar where a character colours how you see every other role that the actor plays. I mean, you could, just to, when Elizabeth Moss was personally throwing shade at me in the interview, when she actually said, it's not real, you know.
43:50Boyd Hilton:I mean, that probably... Oh my God, wait, she said that to you? Yeah. James, she's my new favourite person. It probably translates quite well here. You do have to separate that they are, of course, playing a role. that said i did wonder after schindler's list whether ray fines was going to get you know mainstream roles after that because his portrayal of arm and goethe was so terrifying that i i genuinely i i did have to kind of try and twist my brain into like you look at the english patient it's like oh my god it's him it's the nazi like there is an element of that certainly i don't normally get it but i do remember in that instance being a bit like who he's been fine though he's but he's had a successful career yeah yeah he's he's managed to get over it yeah he's done well
44:39Kay Ribeiro:since yeah he's done he's done all right i'm not worried about him no he'll be fine uh but do you guys do you find that does it does it poison the well for you does it piss in the pool oh god oh god what a visual yeah now we know what james gets up to when he goes to the swimming pool Oh dear I could get that image out of my head On the hoof I'm trying to think It has happened but for me it's more like when a Famous comedy Someone I associate with comedy And they're doing a very serious dramatic role But I'm trying to think who that was Boyd can you think Can you get into my brain And think who I'm thinking of No I cannot get into your brain I mean I suppose I think if an actor plays a character more than once, like I'm thinking of Hannibal Lecter, you know, Anthony Hopkins did, portrayed him multiple times.
45:34And I do, every time I see Anthony Hopkins, I do think of Hannibal Lecter pretty much. I mean, no matter what film he's in or interview he's doing, or he brought his memoir out last year, and he did a long interview, one-on-one interview on BBC. And I kept thinking, and he talked about how much he enjoyed playing Hannibal Lecter, and I kept thinking, yeah. And he's a brilliant, brilliant actor, of course. I'm not even suggesting that I'm actually, that it actually has affected the way I think of it, but it's, he's so associated with that role and did it, and did it so well that it is hard to separate that from other stuff.
46:06That's my semi answer to the question. I've thought of an answer. It's not the one I was thinking of, but I think I have it with Steve Coogan. Cause I so deeply connect him with like a comedy, you know, comedy characters and Partridge and whatever. So when I see him doing very serious roles, like when he played I know I'm not answering the actual question it's kind of a junk but like when he played do you remember when he did Jimmy Savile what was that called yeah at first I you know had to adjust to him doing such a yeah well especially since he'd done impressions of Jimmy Savile on the trip and other in another media so yeah no that's a good point actually that's a good answer to the question yeah who was coming into the studio tomorrow to do an interview for this very podcast coming into the
46:50Kay Ribeiro:yeah that's very true yeah um i saw a clip very recently uh for some reason i didn't realize that steve coogan had started out on spitting image way back in the day uh and i saw a clip of him when he must have been god he looks like a teenager but he's probably early 20s in it and he's on one of those good morning i don't know one of those breakfast tv shows and they're basically
47:12Boyd Hilton:they're just naming public figures and he's doing flawless impressions of them just on demand and it was one of the most impressive things i've seen i was just like he's incredible and you forget like
47:24Kay Ribeiro:he's an incredibly gifted mimic just across the board just so good at it and he talked through the process of how he said well actually like the key to this impression is this isn't this and they
47:35Boyd Hilton:do this and and he explained it and then he did it and i was just like fucking hell that's that's good shit you know spitting images because chris barry started out on spitting image or at least
47:42Kay Ribeiro:did spitting image yeah yeah definitely yeah yeah i remember that because we had chris barry and the rest of the Dwarfers into the Empire office for a podcast interview. A podcast?
47:53Boyd Hilton:What's that? A podcast. Yes, a podcast. And foolishly, I attempted to do an impression of Freighton from Red Dwarf in front of Chris Barry, talking about cringe comedy. And he responded to that throwing down of the gauntlet by immediately doing an impression of every single member of the Red Dwarf cast just to prove that he was much better at it than I was. I like that. I was like, yeah, right. Fair enough. Yeah. Okay. I lost that particular contest. But yeah, it was a giggle. It's a bold and brave choice. And I think it paid off. What a nerd fest that was. Jesus Christ. It's very true. Very true.
48:32Boyd Hilton:Okay. We have time, I think, for one more.
48:36Kay Ribeiro:And this is from Alex. Alex says, the other week's podcast discussion about the pub that played Blackadder in the toilets has brought up memories of two, now both sadly gone, Nottingham venues that I thought it would be funny to share. TV adjacent, the first one, Spanky Van Dykes was a pub slash bar. Spanky Van Dykes was a pub slash bar that played the Harry Potter audiobooks on a loop. There's something very calming yet bizarre about hearing the dulcet tones of Mr. Stephen Fry as you partook in a midnight last drink and a quick wee before hitting up Rock City next door. Suede, meanwhile, was a hipster pizza establishment and its toilet audio of choice was the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles theme on endless loop.
49:25That's amazing.
49:27Boyd Hilton:Yeah. That's clearly somewhere that I would have visited had I been to Nottingham. You've never been to Nottingham? No, I haven't. But obviously at university, I did not frequent pizza joints there. I went to Birmingham. We didn't have Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle themed restaurants. Okay. I feel we found a conversational cul-de-sac. I'm sorry, we're shut down. Was there a question? It wasn't a question. It was more of a comment than a question. Any follow-ups to that? No, I was trying to think. I was trying to help you out by thinking of one and I couldn't. My brain just froze.
50:03Yes, no. I also would have visited James if I had known about it.
50:08Kay Ribeiro:I had a friend who designed her downstairs toilet to play books. Basically, she had an iPod in the wall. And when you engaged the lock, when you locked the door, it went in and it pressed a button and it then played, and a speaker, whatever she put on the iPod, whether it be comedy, audio books, whatnot. So whenever you lock the downstairs toilet, you listen to something.
50:32Boyd Hilton:whether it be comedy or a thing that she'd put on this ipod it was a really cool little thing obviously it's one of these things where the ipod ran out of charge and then she can be able to charge it again so it was a short-lived thing but it was a very clever little invention i love it when people do like mad things like that great yeah yeah it was it was a very cool idea so you
50:48Kay Ribeiro:go i will leave you with that thought that is it for this week's pilot plus we will be back in your ears on the monday when we will have a gaggle of guests once more hugh bonneville and hugh skinner Both Hughes, Hughes Squared, if you will, will be on the podcast to discuss 2026, which we will also be reviewing. Plus, I will be talking to Noah Wiley and Catherine Lamassa about The Pits. That was very exciting for me. We will be reviewing The Copenhagen Test, which is a sci-fi. Kay, of course, thrilled as a lifelong detester of the entire genre once it burned to the ground. And finally, The Testaments, the follow-up to The Handmaid's Tale as well.
51:31Kay Ribeiro:so all of that and more on the Pilot TV podcast thank you very much for subscribing to Pilot Plus we do appreciate it as always and it's a big goodbye from Kay bye bye and a big goodbye from Boyd the Balrog hater of Hobbits scourge of the Shire bye boys James that might be your best outro bye James and I quite like Lord of the Rings yeah just so you found Pilot out
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