PLUS Steal

0:07Welcome to Pilot Plus, your extended guide to every show that matters. And today we have a steal for you, specifically steal, all in capital. So I guess it's not steal, it's steal. And this is on Prime Video. And it is a new show from S.A. Nicky S. And it stars Sophie Turner and Archie Mediquet of My Beloved Sea on Apple TV, which of course he is most famous for, and Jacob Fortune Lloyd. And it is the story of a heist, a robbery of a financial institution dealing in fention puns. Fention puns. That's a spoonerism. I love a fention pun. I'm not even going to cut that out. I'm going to leave it in.

0:40Fention puns. pension funds, and a group of armed robbers break in and steal the money. This happens very early on in the show. There's no build-up. It literally starts with a heist. And then it metamorphoses into something you probably don't expect, is all I'm going to say there. I didn't read up anything on this before it started. I didn't watch the trailer. I didn't know anything about it. So when it began, this is absolutely true. I thought I was watching an episode of Star Trek, because the armed robbers, when they are descending on the building, they're very very professional very slick wearing suits with guns and whatnot but they have facial prosthesis to disguise their features rather than wearing masks they have prosthetics on and uh prosthesis i don't know quite why i said it like that uh they had facial prosthetics on and they genuinely look like extras from like 90s star trek from like voyager or something and i i there was a moment where i was like is this a science fiction show am i going to be blessed with a science fiction crime show and i got super excited until i realized that wasn't the case do you know what I'm going to say, I don't know whether it's like the state of the planet at the moment, but I didn't even notice the prosthetics.

1:45Oh my gosh. I know. None of them have eyebrows, Steph. Yeah. You just thought there's about 30 really freaky looking people who've come together, maybe in a support group. Boy, we are literally, we're living in a time where everyone to me starts looking freaky. Like people are getting so much shit down to their faces. Like I just don't know what's going on. So I didn't even notice it. And then it really was when the eyebrow girl who takes over the reception, I was like, oh no something's not right there yeah that isn't quite right but yeah I didn't notice no well that is extraordinary but yeah it is a kind of weirdly freaky element of the whole thing isn't it and it's to beat the facial recognition technology that's why they do it so yeah it's clever now I watched that and I assumed that like thieves and robbers everywhere are going to get prosthetics done they do do that kind of stuff yeah but I think if you're going to do it do it properly like go full Klingon maybe Cardassian that's Cardassian not Cardassian or like Bajoran although that's pretty subtle but like go full Star Trek like get into character maybe wear a uniform but don't you think that that would draw attention initially I think the whole point is you know you don't like you know like oh no a Klingon's coming in I was going to steal all our money do you know what I mean I don't know like do it in Comic Con where you'd be absolutely fine as this show has shown as this show has shown you can wear your prosthetics and you get away with it because if you just do what you have to do, it's like they can't do a lot of people.

3:13Yeah. Okay. So, yeah, it starts with all of these people. Everyone's kind of converging on this building, okay? So you see it from all angles, don't you? So it's like the prosthetic people, which, yes, I didn't notice were prosthetic people, they're converging. They're all kind of like, there's a military march and the workers are also converging, but they're converging in a casual way because they think it's just a normal day at work. And then they get in and Sophie Turner's, she's had a nosebleed. She looks like she might have had a bad night, a night drinking. And then there's an intern waiting for her in reception, like an excited intern that she's sort of forgotten about.

3:48And she gets a coffee. And you can totally relate. It's just like, oh, they're in this mundane job. And their job, Sophie Turner and her co-worker Luke's job is in the amazing world of trade processing. So their whole job is basically putting through the trades for these pension funds, which sounds absolutely like the most boring job. And they say it's really boring. And then this intern's really excited. And they're like, oh, no, it's really boring. But it soon gets very exciting because in come all these people. And then everyone starts shitting themselves, putting their hands in the air. And they're like, oh, my God, it's a heist.

4:24Yeah, it's not a night of the Seven Kingdom. No, exactly. I couldn't speak to that. I'm sure there was some defecation. You just don't know. In that kind of situation, there was a lot, you know, a lot was going on. I think the Night of the Seven Kingdoms has warped your brain when it comes to... Listen, I stand by everything I said about the Night of the Seven Kingdoms. Anyway, so yet then they all get moved into this conference room and there's just machine guns everywhere. And then there's a couple of people who are like, I'm going to take them on. And you're like, why? Why would... Don't be that guy.

4:51Don't be that guy. But I don't know about you guys. I like the way you're talking this through scene by scene. I know. I just wanted to set the scene for people. It's a director's commentary. because otherwise we're just like talking about the prosthetics anyway my overarching point about this right sophie turner is stresses me out so much like her just her face everything about her in this in these in this scene where they come in it's like oh my god i find it's it's almost like it's really painful to watch because you feel so stressed and like it's so on edge and i mean she's an amazing actress and obviously she can play multiple different types of roles but this is where I find Sophie Turner does her best in this just like real real heightened state of stress and anxiety and the fuck is gonna happen and you almost like I did Sophie I can't watch for you I just can't but yeah absolutely brilliant I don't we're not giving away any spoilers I watched the second episode I really enjoyed it so I watched the second episode and it really gets wild in the second episode but yeah i mean like i don't want to give any spoilers we can't give any spoilers away but yeah the second episode is amazing it's like it said the fallout of the crime becomes kind of the crux of the show yes uh which is very cool uh when the when the robbers come in there's one guy goes because i think you'll find that as a six hour such and such assault rifle and actually if you find it in here it would do this i was like that's just me isn't it really do you know it would be you and you know what happens to him so i do you know yeah it's it's really violent yeah when the thieves come to invade bower towers and um and i'm like i think you're fine yeah i'm gonna be literally nowhere near james at that point you are not the last person i want to be near in a heist you'd be you'd be the one that's going like i think it'd be okay let's just call the police i think you'd be that person god i'm sure i'd be the first to get shot without a doubt yeah definitely target you too because the robbers do what you haven't well i don't know maybe you did in your scene by scene um description is that um is that the robbers target they get um our heroes our heroes sophie turner and archie mdekwe those their characters they're the ones that they target to process the billions and billions of pounds they're stealing right because they're in trade processing yeah because they're in trade processing yeah and it's quite interesting the contrast in reaction to having the stress having to take on board transferring the billions to the to the to the thieves and Archie would decorate his character basically collapses under the weight of the stress whereas Sophie Turner her character I'm trying to remember their names I can't remember their names Zara Zara and Luke she just about managed to keep it together certainly better than he does anyway which I thought was an interesting twist on gender roles.

7:42Yeah, he absolutely folds and starts crying and sweating. And you're like, I can get it together, mate. Come on, just tappy, tappy, and you'll be out of here. Exactly. And he's like, you know, when they hone in on the computer and him like trying to tap in and it's like, oh my God, just sort it out. Shake your hands. But Arjun Odeco, I have to say, is really good. I mean, you mentioned he's in C. Who knew that he was in C? But he's brilliant in Saltburn, and he's in Lurker. Have you seen Lurker, the film Lurker that came out last year? He's brilliant. He's really, really good. And he's nominated for the BAFTA Rising Star Award, isn't he?

8:22So he's in that. I mean, she clearly should have been nominated for his role as CooFoon in C. Oh. CooFoon. Oh, no, he's Ashley Medecway's cousin, isn't he? Who I love. I love Ashley. You know Ashley Medecway? No, he's Ashley Medecway. Oh, okay. No, I didn't know that. Yeah. Oh, my God. Yeah, they're cousins. Yeah. Also an amazing actress. But, yeah, he's – oh, I really – yeah, I didn't even actually put him together with being in – See? Yeah. No, Sawburn. Yeah, he's really good in that. Yeah, he's brilliant. Yeah, he's really good. She's fantastic. Of course, I spent the day with her a couple of years ago for her show, Joan, the ITV show, Joan, and I did the host of the Q &A, and then I did another one later that same day.

9:03She's a delight. So, yeah, but it's really good, isn't it? I think going straight into the heist thing, and it reminded me of, is it The Dark Knight, the one that begins with the big heist? Yes. Yes, yeah. It definitely had that influence, even down to the music and the editing and the camera moves and all of that. I felt I'd been heavily influenced by that. It's just instantly kind of gripping, isn't it? Because without any buildup, the big robbery begins, and then the fallout turns out to be intriguing, to say the least. I think it's really good, really interesting. I also really enjoyed Jacob Bortian-Lloyd's character.

9:44So he comes in as DCI Rhys and, yeah, we must – because he's also kind of – there's something more – again, no spoilers. You feel like there's something more to him when he comes in. He's not just your average run-of-the-mill DCI. There's something more exciting about him, which will maybe or may not be revealed. I don't know if there's something more exciting, but it just seems like there is. it'd be weird if they didn't reveal it there was something exciting about him and they didn't tell us what it was just had to make it up I like the nerdy tech expert as well who he has with him as well that's Andrew Koji from Warrior among other things, he's brilliant playing very against type here as this kind of slightly bookish nerdy dweeby IT guy again I think there's more to him as well like I said I've only watched two episodes, I think there's more to him I think you're right, I think there's more to everyone in this whole thing.

10:34Nothing is as it seems. Nothing is as it seems. It's really, really compelling though. Like I was, like I said, I didn't really know anything about this going in, but I was within five minutes absolutely obsessed with it. Like just straight off the bat because it starts so strong and it starts with this armed robbery. And you know, we talked about competence porn recently. I cannot for the life of me remember what in relation to. But even though they're the villains, watching this team of armed robbers who are so incredibly competent and professional and good at their jobs, it's like heat you're just like okay you're bad guys but i you know i appreciate the hustle like you guys know what you're doing and it's there's something quite gratifying about that uh and it's really well staged really well executed it's really fun uh i i thought it was great and then for exactly the reasons you say like the first episode ends with a bit of a like a oh my god moment and then you go into episode two which is literally oh my god moments upon moments all the way through and it just kind of builds up speed from there so yeah really really fun i thought i'm absolutely gonna plow through these and they all drop at once so this is definitely not a show that you can double screen.

11:34You have to pay attention the whole time. So I know everybody nowadays is like on their phone and watching TV at the same time. We don't endorse that. No, we don't endorse that. I'm just saying. Says Boyd, who has literally watched two television shows at once simultaneously in the past. No, Boyd. Oh yeah, I guess so. But that's different. That's like, I might have the football on one screen or something. Oh yeah, you don't have to pay attention to that. Monstrous. Monstrous. Yeah, okay. Maybe. I do think we should also mention that it is brutal. there are some very brutal graphic violent scenes in it as well.

12:06Are there? I mean, I didn't find it particularly violent. I'm literally, I'm like acting out what happens to, so it's not give away a spoiler. Yeah. I didn't think of it. I mean, yes, it's, it's quite, there's quite a bit of, you know, punchy punchy, but it's not like, it's not Gangs of London. No, but still, it's in Canary Wharf. You don't expect those kinds of things to happen, is what I'm saying. Yeah. Canary Wharf is just shocking. Violence in Canary Wharf. Yeah. Who knew? Yeah, I suppose you're right. It does make good use of the Canary Wharf and Locale's locations. Yeah, it does. And the City of London.

12:45They strut around the City of London very effectively. I know. When I watch things like this, I always think, is that the kind of life that some people are leading? Like living in those fancy apartments in Canary Wharf and just having jobs in finance. Yeah, of course. Isn't it? People who live in the city, yes. But solace though, solace. That's true. Well, this isn't. This is very exciting. So, yeah. So listen to all the heist comes into your building, and then it's exciting. Right. Steal them. All six episodes of this dropped, I should say, yesterday on Wednesday, the 21st of January. So you can watch the whole thing now.

13:16You can binge the whole thing. Go you. And if you want to watch a bunch of people steal a Fention Pund, this is the show for you. We turn now to the post bag, specifically my post bag, my new, newly enhanced, should we call it triage plus? I don't know. Whatever you want to call it. i'm doing with a post bag at the moment uh but we have some we have some i had i did go through some of these and had a look at them some fun ones in here so let's see where we begin and this one which comes from ben simply has a subject inspired by james i can't imagine why i picked this one and it says i like james have a sofa list a mile long which shows on it like the penguin all her fault the night manager and many others so i've decided to re-watch of the west wing which i've only seen once before in my defense it makes a change from my yearly re-watch of the wire keep up the good work ben i wholly endorse this course of action well done um and boydy he had he does have a a ps for you ps of course running a marathon is harder than walking one boydy that's why when people start to struggle running a marathon they slow down and walk for a bit oh yeah but when people walk a marathon they also slow down even more do you think when people walk a marathon and they get tired they run for a bit sometimes um but no they just get even slower and they're sometimes even collapsing from the stress and intensity of the workout walking 26 miles.

14:36Sorry, what is this about? This is a very old, was his name Ben? This is Ben, yes. This is a very old running joke, literally. Literally, yeah. Walking slash running joke that I did the moonwalk, which is the marathon. Yes, you always do that. I did it in a ways. I did it three times. That's always. Yeah. And some people, when we were training, pointed out that, in theory, walking the marathon length, 26 miles, is tougher than running it. That is a theory that some people have, and I mentioned this. And Kay particularly finds it hilarious. Well, of course, because she is a marathon runner. Yeah.

15:17And, yeah, so that is the explanation. But I maintain – I don't necessarily buy into that theory, by the way. I'm just stating the theory. Isn't that the same as like, it's actually harder to stand, it puts more strain on your body to kind of stand still than it does to walk. Right, yeah. Yeah, similar. I can see where that theory might come from. So actually that's why you can't kind of stand still for a long time because it's actually very painful and yeah, it puts the strain on your muscle whereas you have to kind of jiggle yourself around. You have to jiggle yourself around. This is new info to me.

15:51I'm going to come back next pod with some actual science on that. You wait. I believe you actually on that one. As someone who has had a shop job and had to have been on my feet for like 13 hours a day, I very much believe you. Okay, so there you go. But yes, Ben, we wholeheartedly approve of your rewatch of The West Wing. Although annual rewatches of The Wire, that's impressive. I only watched that through a few times, but yeah, good stuff. Right, next one. This comes from Paul the Wine Guy and Paul the Wine Guy says, can't believe that we are corresponding about this. I watched some of those episodes of Last of the Summer Wine with the classic lineup of Compo, Clegg and Foggy, which it has to be said, they are the A-team.

16:28That's certainly the Lost of Summer winers I remember. In fact, Clegg was the only one to make every episode, with Ivy and Nora Batty up next. And this is something I didn't know. Apparently, Compo is some way down the list of appearances. Amongst other things, he wasn't part of the triumvirate when he started, and he died before the end of the run to be replaced by his actual and dramatized son. There you go. So Paul the Wine Guy, Last of the Summer Wine Guy is what we'll call it. Oh, nice. Does Paul the Wine Guy really have to watch Last of the Summer Wine? Yes, I believe it's a professional prerequisite.

17:02If you're going to work in wine, you have to watch All of Last of the Summer Wine. There's a title this. I never thought of it before. What is the Last of the Summer Wine? What kind of wine do you have? I always assumed it was to do with their age. Yeah, you know, like Waiting for God. It's like that one, isn't it? A little bit like that, that they were the last of the summer wine. They were, you know. Waiting for God, the sitcom with, what's her name? Or Waiting for God-O, the Beckett bloke. No, Waiting for God, the sitcom with Stephanie Whatserchops. Yes. Stephanie Cole. There you go. Yeah. Classic.

17:34Yeah, that is classic. Yeah. Okay. Next question comes from Darren. Not that one. It is a different Darren. And Darren says, hi, James or Kay or Steph or Boyd or whoever else might triage this email. hi oh bless you hello darren uh james i have recently become disillusioned with my tv and movie tracking app so i looked into your sofa list but i can't find it what is the actual name of the app please thanks keep up the good work darren well darren the sofa app is called wait for it sofa i hope that has been helpful no it is it is i've just looked at it's on the app store It's under Sofa colon downtime organizer.

18:15And it's a little blue icon with an armchair on it. I'm on iPhone. It may not be on the Android app store. I don't know for sure. So if you're on Android, you may be out of luck. I'm so sorry. So, James, sorry. In this app, this is where you organize the things that you're going to re-watch. Well, no, just watch generally. So stuff that's on my list of things that needs to be watched, slashed, read, slash played, like entertainment that I need to consume, goes on my Sofa list. And does it give you notifications? No, no. It's just basically a repository so I don't forget that I need to watch things.

18:44So I have a list of all things. It's just a digital notebook. Yeah, basically. It's like, yeah, you could do it on a piece of paper with pen. That's what I was going to say. But it pulls in pretty pictures of the show and all the information about it in case I forget. I hope you're not paying for this app because if you are, then you are full of that for a massive cost. I don't pay a subscription for it, no. It was either free or it was a one-off fee when I bought it. I can't remember. I've been using it for years. One-off fee, yes. Who knows? I should be on commission. I will lend you a notepad if you want.

19:10I think I've made it famous on this podcast. Boydy, we've been taken to task by Lee. Good. Go on, Lee, like you already. In all your Golden Globe talk lately, you've talked about the Hollywood Foreign Press Association. Several years ago, they sold the Globes to Penske Media, the same group that owns the Hollywood Reporter, Variety Rolling Stone, among others. You are right, though, that nobody knows anything about how the winners are chosen. Dan Feinberg, TV critic at the Hollywood Reporter, works 25 yards down the hall from the Globe's office. even he doesn't know who they are there was more transparency under the hfpa thanks to you and empire for great podcasts the only ones i pay for and welcome to steph oh do you know what lee right firstly you're my favorite okay and secondly i love it how does he know all of this stuff that's so clever he could be very well informed or have access to wikipedia it's definitely one of the two i believe he's well informed yes uh i think that's probably true but yeah i mean that is true because after all of the controversy around the hfpa and around the golden globes they were sold but my i always assumed that they were still voted for by the hfpa not least because i know members of the hfpa who do vote for it according to my extreme knowledge wikipedia it says as of 2024 the voting body consisted of 310 individuals including representatives of 76 countries international journalists and 95 members that were members of the hfpa so that's interesting so So it's now not entirely HFPA.

20:38It's just partly HFPA and then a bunch of randoms? Yeah. People in that office down the hallway from Hollywood Reporter or whatever. Yeah. It is weird, isn't it? Yeah. We need to get to the bottom of this. The fact that it's only, how many did you say? 300 and something people. 300 and something and 76 of them are HFPA. Yeah. I mean, that is telltale. I mean, this is very random numbers. 95 HFPA, 76, sorry, 76 are who? Hang on, hang on, hang on. So, yes, so it said 310 individuals. Oh, that's right. Sorry, my mistake. 310 people, 76 countries originated from, 95 members were HFPA. Oh, okay. Sorry.

21:20Right. Fine. Oh my God. But I don't know how, you know, how recent that that information is from but it was that was okay that was variety in 2024 revealed that so I mean it could have changed by now to be honest with you but yeah that is weird I mean they're they're batshit whoever they are I reckon they're a bit like you know the freemasons or the illuminati like you like you go into the you know to to you know get to costa get get yourself a latte or whatever it is and you get like a knowing wink from the barista and you know are you a voting member of the Golden Globes. Oh, I want to be a voter.

21:51Or they're like, they gather in seven dials and they wear masks. Oh yeah, that's more likely. Yeah, they wear funny masks and they have strange meetings where they decide who's going to be nominated. And wrong opinions about films and TV. Yeah, who's going to be nominated for best fucking podcast? I mean, you know. Okay, let's not start Amy Poeh. I don't want to start Amy Poehler bashing again because as you know that, you're like, I love her. I love Amy Poehler. I'm not bashing her. I'm bashing the people who decided to have that category, A, and B, to fill it up with celebrity interview podcasts.

22:19yeah okay that's all right i mean okay when they could have added um tv high-end tv review and news and interview podcasts right which you think we'd be in do you that was the implication of my joke that fell flat yes you're probably right you're probably right one day us three and k will be up there winning a Golden Globe, definitely. Exactly. And the campaign starts now. Anyone you meet apparently could be a voting member of that body. So you just have to be on your best behaviour at all times. They could be anyone. They could be anywhere. No one knows who they are. Yeah, all right. And they're never allowed to tell.

23:00Maybe I'm one. Maybe you are. Are they based in LA? Did you say? Not necessarily. You can't ever know. It's very unclear at this point who the fuck they are. We just don't know. Hollywood Reporter must be, mustn't it? Hence the name. Because I'm going to LA as well. Oh, you mean the office? Yes, the office is based in LA. Yeah, I could go and visit them. What do you mean you're going to LA? I'm going to LA in a couple of weeks' time. We need to talk about this because I have to work out the timings of where I can do the podcast from my hotel room in La La Land. Oh, my God. Boyd is going out for a special slate presentation for one of the streamers.

23:32Yes. Wow. Oh, my God, you're going out in a couple of weeks. That's probably when I'm having my tonsils out. It's going to be literally James just talking. I think it's a different week. I think it's a different week, actually. Yeah, yeah. we'll talk about that off air but anyway we'll do the admin when I'm in LA I'm volunteering to go go and meet with the Hollywood Foreign Press Association and find out what the hell's going on thank you for your service yes thank you for your service this comes from Scott and Scott says interesting diversion into character recastings on today's pod there's one that always has remained lodged in my head particularly as the recast version ended up being such an indelible character that she obliterated most people's knowledge of the original version.

24:13And no, I don't mean Carol from Friends. Although, who remembers the season one version of her? I'm talking, and sorry James, but this does involve EastEnders. Oh, for fuck's sake. About Barbara Windsor's takeover of the role of Peggy Mitchell. That is such a good point. Obviously, Windsor's version of the role is iconic. And with Jamie Winston, who plays Babs in a biopic, subsequently playing a version of young Peggy in a prequel special, reprising the role recently in a flashback-filled episode, the intention is clear that the Mitchell matriarch has always been a diminutive blonde. But when the character was first introduced in 1991, she was played by Joe Warne, who is completely different to Barbara Windsor.

24:49Here's a YouTube clip, which obviously I can't play on the podcast. If you haven't sent this mail to the trash can in disgusting yet more EastEnders nonsense, then thank you. No, that's such a good point. Very good point, yeah. Yeah. Because you just think of Babs Windsor, don't you? Yeah. For Peggy Mitchell. She's such a... Icon. I'm going to use the word, yeah. Iconic. character and performance. That's such an interesting point that actually, because there's probably lots, there probably are some others that are so good you've forgotten the first one. Oh, by the way, EastEnders does it all the time.

25:19And in fact, someone said to me that apparently this week or last week they introduced, reintroduced a character who'd been played, recast. So it's just a kind of concept. EastEnders just basically goes, fuck it, if we're moving on, we're casting a new person in that role, no one will mind because we do it all the time. So yeah. Turnover. Yeah. They've got a high actor turnover. What can they do? Yeah. I can offer no contribution to this conversation because I didn't even know Barbara Williams was in EastEnders. Oh, what? Come on. Oh, shut up, James. Honestly. Jesus Christ. James, have you never watched EastEnders?

25:54There was a period at university where my housemates tried to get me to watch it and I watched maybe three episodes before stopping because I probably got a new Deep Space Nine box out. Sure. But even then, it's one of the most famous roles in British TV. I mean, Barbara Windsor, I mean, for her, she's always just carry on to me. Oh, yeah, completely. When she was cast, by the way, it was a really interesting, bold moment. Yeah, because she was so well known for the carry-on films. Yeah, but she's a really talented actress as well. She was an incredible figure. I sat next to her once at a wedding.

26:26Of course you did. Did you? Yeah, yeah. Whose wedding? I can't say. I can't say. She was amazing, actually. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, I bet I know his wedding. Steady. I bet I do as well.

26:42Moving hastily on. Yeah, moving on. This is the last message I will read out about Last of the Summer Wine, and this comes from Stuart. Stuart says, Just to debunk, James is confident in the absence of knowledge claim that Clegg and Compo are in every episode of Last of the Summer Wine. Here is a, basically, he's screen grabbed me a grid which shows all 31 seasons and who the cast were. So Compo, apparently, according to this, Compo was in it from the first season, though as someone else pointed out, he wasn't part of the core trio. He was in the first season two. It looks like the 21st season.

27:15There were 31 seasons of this show. Blamire, from 1973, played by Michael Bates, was in series one and two. Foggy joined in series three and lasted only until series eight. Didn't realise that. That was Brian Wilde's character. Then he was replaced by Michael Aldridge, who played Seymour, and that was in series nine and ran to series 12. and then Foggy returned in series 13 to series 18 before departing and being replaced by Truly, played by Frank Thornton in series 19. And he ran to series 29. And then for the last two series, Russ Abbott, and I had no idea this, Russ Abbott, who played Hobbo, replaced him for the last two series.

27:52I actually feel like I remember the Russ Abbott, but the most exciting thing about that email is, what did they say you have? Confidence. It's just like the absence of knowledge. That is magic. That is literally James in a nutshell, isn't it? It's not unfair. But I haven't finished because Compo, who I think Bill Owens' character, I think he died during Series 21 or after Series 21. So from Series 22, he was replaced by Billy, played by Keith Clifford. And then finally in Series 28 to 31, replaced by Alvin, played by Brian Murphy. And Clegg, Peter Salas' character, was from Series 1 to Series 29.

28:25And for the final two series, replaced by Entwistle, played by Bert Quook. Bert Quirk from the Pink Panther films oh yeah I hope this has shed definitive light on the Last of the Summer Wine issue for you all thank you for the knowledge Bert Quirk is an absolute legend from the Pink Panther films I remember it now yeah same I think I checked out by then alright right that's it we're done we're drawing a line under it we are finished with Last of the Summer Wine next week First of the Summer Wine yes okay we have a message here from Guy and Guy says obviously I'm devastated that Kay will no longer be giggling in my ears twice a week but this does mean we get the chance to ask the editor of crime boy I don't know weekly what she thought of the one-off feature-length drama that debuted on Netflix The Rip what are we asking Steph about The Rip right do you know what I haven't watched The Rip I'm just gonna say I haven't but I will I will watch it and then I will tell you what I think this is the new Joe Carnahan film like I don't know why we're making this up I will I'm just gonna I'm gonna watch it now because you've asked because you've asked I will watch it we gave it four stars I liked it it's good also says also has Steph yes it is a film has Steph seen Pluribus and if so please could we have a spoiler special perhaps with an interview with friend of the pod Vince Gilligan also is it possible that a Penguin spoiler special was recorded but never released well the last point we have addressed as for the Pluribus thing yes and okay look in Chris's defense it's not his fault we we actually haven't recorded the Pluribus spoiler special yet we have been meaning to do it we just haven't for a variety of reasons including Chris's illness and lots of other things going on but we are yes planning to do a Pluribus spoiler special at some point and the penguin one well I'm on that Steph did you watch Pluribus you didn't did you no I did not I would right okay okay what I'm gonna do today well I'm gonna get off this and I'm gonna watch Rip and I'm gonna watch the whole of pluribus and then we can do those things okay well tough day of work ahead i know i'm doing it for you guys yeah thanks okay uh i'm going to turn now to a message from paul and paul brings up something that i also brought up on the pilot tv whatsapp group but let's just see what paul has to say hello k boyd and james and steph i like it when you say hello back on the podcast but no pressure hello hello i thought i'd make james happy by talking about two of his favorite things the volume and the rest of this entertainment podcast being wrong yes as boyd recently mentioned the rest of this entertainment featured james cameron explaining the process of actor performance capture within that explanation he talked about working in the volume after this marina hyde then explained that the volume is an led wall that the actors perform in front of but in this context that is not true they are two different things correct uh performance capture or motion capture was developed decades ago.