The Assassin, The Count Of Monte Cristo, The Gone, and The Mayfair Witches

21:34Yeah, I remember, I did mention it years ago when it first came out, because it became a kind of word-of-mouth phenomenon. It's like 15-minute episodes, so it's kind of easy. But it goes way out there

21:45Sam Claflin:in terms of freaky situations and characters, etc. He's a brilliant talent, yeah. so yeah are there any sketch shows currently running on TV? that's a very interesting question first of all I would say the Michelin Web are back soon with their sketch show a revival of their I thought he did that on purpose because the news is just I don't think no I think no it was totally coincidental yeah if I was invited to the screening yesterday so they're reviving their own sketch show but with a new they're being it obviously but with a new younger cast as well of like young up and coming, more up and coming comedians.

22:22So that is coming back. There is a sketch show on. Well, there's a mini wave of new ones announced. The Larry David one I mentioned in news last week, he's doing this sketch show about American history. Yeah, more exactly. Produced by Barack Obama, more young talent. Barack and Michelle Obama. Give these guys a chance. Yeah. So there's more and more of them being commissioned right now and about to come out, as in Michelin Web. But right now on TV, let me think, I don't think there is a sketch show on TV at the moment. Imagine like running live. Are you pitching something, James?

22:53Sam Claflin:Yes, this podcast. No, I'm not at all. It's curious because I recall very strongly, whether it be during the 90s or the 80s, sketch shows were just everywhere. It was very much a staple of the comedic landscape. And now they feel anomalies. Remember Jamie Dimitriou of Stuff Let's Flats fame? He did a one-off hour-long sketch show for Netflix that I loved. I don't know if you remember. Yes. Wasn't it when he was born? Yeah. Yeah, exactly. it was amazing I think it was brilliant obviously it's on it would be on Netflix now but I always thought that was with a view to doing a series but in the series it hasn't happened as yet so again there are one-off examples and there are occasional examples but yeah definitely I think the wave is coming back for sketch shows intriguingly that's called A Whole Lifetime with Jamie Dimitri by the way if you want to check it on Netflix there you go so what you were watching was a film basically yeah that was one of the things I was doing It's not the only thing I was watching.

23:49Sam Claflin:What else did I watch? I watched a number of episodes of This Life for Pilot Plus. Oh, yeah. My first foray into the world of This Life. You can listen to that on the most recent Pilot Plus if you are that way inclined. The only other thing is I watched two other shows, and I can tell you what they are, but I can't talk about them because obviously they're best embargoed. And that annoys people. They're just used to that. But I will simply say, I did do As Threatened, and I watched all of Slow Horses. Oh, so have I. Which was my weekend. And I don't believe it's breaking any kind of particular embargoed.

24:17Sam Claflin:I'd say it's fabulous. It's breaking our rules. But it isn't though, is it? Because Slow Horses is just fabulous by default. It could have taken a massive downfall. Oh, it's jumped the shark massively. We're really right off a cliff. When they shot Gary Oldman in the first moment, that was really surprising. Slow Horse taken to the knackers. Oh, it's gone to shit. No, it hasn't. It's fabulous. I forgot to say I watched the whole thing as well. What I found fascinating. Are you annoyed he got it in first? Not really, no. I'm glad he reminded me. Because it was so long ago now. It was almost a week ago that I forgot.

24:44Oh, God, you two are ridiculous. You're just so ridiculous. And you know what I would say as well? Did you, they have the trailer.

24:51Sam Claflin:Yes, it's literally what I was about to say. Oh, sorry, go on. So it's amazing that it is obviously renewed for season seven. This is season five. But it's wild that season six is already in the can because at the end of the finale of this season, you get the next season on Slow Horses and you're like, we're not going to, I don't even know when we're going to see that, another year and a half. And it's... No, it won't be that much. It'll be a minimum a year, maximum a year. Well, no, from now. A minimum, a year from when it airs. From there till September. Yeah, but that's on you guys for watching it to air.

25:17Exactly, right? But what I'm saying is,

25:19Sam Claflin:we've got a big old way for that, but that one looks even better. Yes. No, I thought that exact... I thought it looks even better. I thought the trailer for the next season looks incredible. It does. That looks like the best season ever. So without any judgment of the season that us two watched... Fabulous. ...quituitously, the trailer is brilliant. You two are just... And I watched it like three times. Oh my God, this looks incredible. Yeah. It's one of the best things on TV and I delight in it. Very smiley. Genuinely, it made my weekend. I had such a good time. I had such a good time. And I have also watched Alien Earth, which we'll be reviewing on the live show because it's out that week.

25:59Yeah, I've got those ready to watch. I think I'm going to watch them this weekend. Yeah.

26:02Sam Claflin:Kate's running scared from Alien. Alien-based sci-fi horror. It's all my favourite things. Yeah, it is all your favourite things. What is your problem? What's your problem? No, I'm looking forward to it because as Alien is, you know what Alien is? The original Alien? The first Alien? Is it your favourite film of all time? It's one of my favourite films of all time. Is it pronounced A-Len? Is that what you're going to say? Aline. It is one of my favourite films of all time. Genuinely. And if you really want to provoke an argument, you know what you do with Alien, Kay? Go on. You say to James...

26:35Sam Claflin:Oh, here we go. You say... Have another wrong opinion. Anyone in their right mind knows that Alien, the original, is better than Aliens, the sequel. I mean, it's not, but sure. But if you're James Dyer, Aliens, the sequel, is literally your favourite film of all time. And you will brook no compromise. Do you know what? Usually I would fully endorse Poking the Bear. But on this occasion, because it's film, and because I have no interest in that film. Just shutting it down. It's just an FYI. No, it's good. I would like to add it to the arsenal of things to tease him about. No, but this is interesting, because we're going to be watching and reviewing Alien Earth, so you should watch Alien and its superior sequel, Aliens, before we do the show.

27:11Sam Claflin:That's a perfectly good, very good sequel. Listen. But just obviously not as good as the original. You'll be lucky if I even watch the TV show. That's fair. And that's what I've been watching. Very good. Yeah. Okay. I've got a question, Boydie. Do we have a guest this week? No. I don't think we do. We don't? No. You were going to do an interview for this week. It didn't happen. No, it's never happened. No, sorry. All right, good to know. Healy Ors. And Freddie Highmore. And Freddie Highmore, yeah. No, yeah. It just didn't happen. It hasn't come to fruition yet. Anyway, I mean, it could be one of those where it ends up being.

27:44People say we're shambolic, but I don't know if we are. I don't think we are. Organised chaos.

27:48Sam Claflin:Yeah, I think people appreciate. I mean, I spoke to them at the launch. Oh, of course you did. Of course you did. But we haven't been given a slot for interviewing. I think people enjoy this kind of live administration. Is it yet another reason why people think, I'm not sure? Yeah, maybe. Anyway, come and see us at the live event. We'll be really organised then. Yeah, so organised. The most organised we've ever been. All right, should we have a listener question instead? Yes, let's. And it's less of a question, more of a comment. and it's from Elliot. Look, James gets worried that it's going to be a criticism.

28:16Sam Claflin:No, not that. It's just now the listener comment section, but carry on. Are you the postmistress? No. Okay, so this is from Elliot who says, in your intro to the Mixtape review, James asked whether teenagers send each other Spotify playlists. Oh, yes, I did. Yes. So you got in touch to say, having been a teenager recently, he's 21. We have young listeners. Wow. He says, I can confirm I both made and received Spotify playlists as a teenager. it's not quite the same as a mixtape is it thinking it was cool I did actually make mixtapes as a teenager too which was a challenge but much more satisfying the flaw was that there was only one of my other friends who had a cassette play I was going to say you give it to someone they'll be like what the fuck am I going to do with this so I thought that was very sweet yeah so I mean cassette plays have come back haven't they no no they have there was a whole feature on it on something I listened to really yeah on the radio but here's the question I have for you and I've never fully understood so obviously vinyl has had a resurgence and I get that a little bit because vinyl the artifact of a record is just cool it's just a cool object an objet d 'art if you will and I will and people say people say it gives a better sound they sound better they're warmer and I'll submit I don't see that they just have little crackly bits I don't love that myself but I get that there's but tapes are just objectively shit and have always been shit because half the time I don't know if you had this like in the sort of 1890s where 1890s In the 1890s, yes, when I was a young man.

29:44Sam Claflin:Especially with Walkmans, you couldn't always guarantee they would play at the speed they were designed to play at, where they'd only be playing a little bit too fast or a little bit too slow, and the song would just sound weird. Was there a setting you had it on? I don't think so. I think it was just shitty Walkmans. But yeah, this is genuinely a thing that I used to... I used to love Walkmans. Yeah, and CDs, obviously, digital, good. I had a disment as well. Did you? Did you? Disments were really uncool. That was very posh. Well, it was so clunky as well. I wasn't carrying it around because it was pretty lame, but I don't know.

30:13Sam Claflin:Oh, okay. I never had a Discman. But what I would say is I've got a little test for you because we've recently watched something where a Walkman was in the show. Mixtape. Mixtape, yeah. No, not that. And there wasn't a Walkman in there, actually. Yes, there was. No, there wasn't. Yes, there was. Oh, yeah, of course. He's listening to it all the time. Sorry, I forgot the dual timeline. I was like, when was Jim Sturgeon listening to Walkman? Oh, now this is on the tip of my brain. Yeah. Yes, there was. Tip of your brain tongue. Come on. Not This Life, obviously. No. He's listening to Walkman on This Life, by the way.

30:44Oh, okay. And one of the things I thought about this, I'm sorry to go back to that very quickly, and I meant to mention this when we talked about it on Pilot Plus, is what a difference it makes when there's no mobile phones. Yeah. Mobile phones. Well, it shifts the whole nature of the show, doesn't it? It's incredible. That entire show is predicated on the idea that he has no way of getting in touch with you. There's one bit where he has to go to a phone box and use a phone box, and you're like, oh my God. It really makes a difference. Anyway, what does... Well, Stranger Things, which I watched recently, that has a Walkman in it.

31:12Yeah.

31:13Sam Claflin:Yeah. We've just reviewed it, guys. Wait a minute. Oh, you did your own re-watch. Yes. What was it we just reviewed? Okay. Not, um, no. It definitely wasn't a narrow road to the distant north or whatever it was called. Deep north. Okay, I'm going to give you a clue. Yeah. Copacabana. Oh, yeah. Oh, it's Danny Tyrus as Mr. Big Stuff. Mr. Big Stuff. Yes. He's sitting there in the street. He's there. He's a recycling vigilante and he's just listening to his... Walkman, which he's found in a bin. Do you know what? It shows how old I am that I didn't even for one second bump on the fact that he was using a tape-based Walkman.

31:44Sam Claflin:I just accepted it. It never occurred to me why are you using that archaic piece of technology? He found it in a bin. Yeah, but it didn't occur to me that that was somehow out of time. Oh, I looked at it and I thought that's a funny little thing. It's a funny little observation. If he'd been using like a Zoom or something, I'd have definitely bumped on that. Yeah, God, I remember that, yeah. So anyway, that was our young listener I got in touch. We're grateful for Elliot and he has confirmed that people like young kids are swapping Spotify playlists. That's quite wholesome. I like that that still happens.

32:17Sam Claflin:Yeah. Although, you know, God help them if the object of their desire is in the Apple ecosystem and doesn't use Spotify. What do they do then? I mean, don't go out with them. Let me. That's it. I will not date you. You're on Apple Music. I'm going to filter you out on the basis you don't have an Apple product. God, do you think it's like that? Oh no, you're on Deezer. I don't know. God, this is an insight to me. I do judge... Oh, God, this is actually... Oh, no, I want to hear this now. This is a media wanker thing to say, but the difference between a PC and a Mac, I do sort of like bump against...

32:48Sam Claflin:You judge PC people harshly. Yeah, that's probably all our listeners. Sorry. Oh, yeah, I do as well. But actually, then you realise that, I'm sure you would concur with this, that gamers think that PCs are better than Macs. Well, I think also most people in most jobs, I think, generally use PCs. unless they're in creative profession, unless they're designers or journalists. I think most people use business. It's just a wank, it's like an ego thing. It's just certain industries. It's not just, no, it's not about wanking, Kate. It's specifically about having certain industries. It's media, media people use it.

33:17Sam Claflin:You can get porn on PCs just as easily. God, I wouldn't know about that, James. Whatever your plans for the weekend are, you can to yourself, thanks. That's how I watch Slow Horses, I don't know how to tell you. But look, look, look, look. Guys, guys, guys, guys. Guys, guys. No, I know what you're saying, But then people like a certain person who Boydie holds in very, very high regard feels exactly the same way, but in reverse. She has absolute contempt for Max. Who's that? Sophie. Helen. Helen. I didn't know that. She's a dyed-in-the-wool PC-er. She uses an Android phone. We'll have none of this happen.

33:52Sam Claflin:Really? Why? Does that affect your affections for Helen? No, no, it's all right. If it was anyone else. I'm just going to tell you about lots of things, including the Fantastic Four film. Anyway. Another film bit. But that's weird. That's interesting. Where does that... I mean, I remember back in the day, before, like, you know, Steve Jobs turned the company around. That's how long I've been into Apple products. I used to sell Apple products in the 90s. I worked in a computer store. Like, I used to sell computer games and computers. That makes so much sense. Where was this store? In Guildford?

34:26Sam Claflin:No, it was not in Guildford. It was in Harrow Town Centre. In Harrow Town Centre, So I worked in, there was a company called Silica, and it was a concession within Debnams in Harrow. I bet you were good at that job. And I sold, I don't know who that was. I had a little ponytail. Oh, I need to see a photo. Bring the photo. Okay, this is it. Like the nerdy guy in The Simpsons. What's his name, that character? Yeah, comic store guy. A little guy. Okay, this is the extra bonus. If you come to the live event show, maybe we will show that photo. I don't have a photo. You must have a photo of you in a ponytail.

35:00Not from work, no. I've been obsessed with Apple products for so long. And I used to be, even like when the, I remember when the iPod was created, it being the biggest moment of my life practically, because it was like, oh my God, this is, you know, I was first in the queue. I timed a visit to New York for when the iPhone came out so I could get it pretty much on the opening day, which I think was marginally ahead of when they came out in the UK. And I used to, I was obsessed, I was absolutely obsessed with Apple product. and I would go around like on when I was on holiday looking for Apple products you couldn't get in Britain when they were on sale already in America so I could not be further from Well until Apple want to sponsor us no more Apple chat now because we've spoken about them quite a lot haven't we?

35:43Sorry to have bored you Okay move this on again Some people might be interested Well I'm just thinking we've tuned in to TV and we've talked about Apple products and me and my prejudices Well I think you've found Apple TV Plus is quite a big streaming service I know Again you could not imagine Apple would have been involved. This is a TV point. Yeah. Valid. My final point on Apple product is if you just said to me 20, 30 years ago, by the way, in the 2020s, Apple will be running the most acclaimed TV shows around. I'd be like, what the fuck are you talking about? Yeah, it's true. It is extraordinary.

36:17And actually, it's my favorite platform.

36:18Sam Claflin:Although, to be fair, when they launched, you know, they came out the gate swinging, see their first big show, you know, they knew exactly what they were doing from the get-go. The morning show. That's what I'm saying. New with the morning show, which I still haven't got the screeners for. I check it pretty much every day. You haven't seen it, boy. Why would you say that out loud? You know what's coming from him. I know. Just don't give him the platform to do it. Do you know what? It's been so long since I've seen him that I almost forgot what happened. Oh, Sigh. Has anyone got any news? Oh, I thought that was the other question dealt with.

36:49Yes.

36:49Sam Claflin:So we should move on to this week's news. And what news have we got? Well, I'm surprised by this, but obviously delighted for Owen Wilson fans that his golf comedy Stick has been renewed for a second series on Apple TV Plus yeah the aforementioned aforementioned the aforementioned yeah mispronounced piss pronunciations all over the place piss pronunciations piss pronunciations I think that was that dates back to the two Ronnies oh my god listen speaking of sketch shows listen I've just said we've got one young listener don't make the tuna they just like heard the two Ronnies the two Ronnies that is one for the kids that reference anyway can I just preempt any criticism if there is a sketch show that I've forgotten about that is on TV at the moment I apologise in advance I'm sure there is something I've forgotten I was racking my brain I googled it so yeah there probably is a sketch show that's on carry on okay while we're doing an apology sorry for any PC hatred I just had so yes anyway it's been renewed for a second season okay yeah they're sticking with it yeah indeed also I don't know if this is of interest oh actually it'll be of interest to Boyd particularly Only Murders in the Building's got a date it's the 9th of December it's going to land on Disney Plus What date did you say?

38:019th of September I think I said December I think you said December which is my birthday so that was a bit confusing

38:06Sam Claflin:That would be quite the present boy Yeah it would be and we would both of us would chip in so you could fly to New York to watch it Thank you Oh wow I mean What a treat When I say both of us James Yeah okay Yeah sorry the 9th of September on Disney Plus Yes and that will be the fifth season That is exciting and a huge the cast list is just incredible of the, I don't know if you've got it to hand, but anyway, it's just, yeah, incredible array of brilliant guest stars, half of which were in the previous season to be fair. So they kind of retained the core, but that is exciting. I still love that show, by the way.

38:37And let's never forget the fact that we did it week by week and James refused. It was like an opt-out. He just failed. I think it was just to give him time to have like an eye rest or something. I just, I can't. I do like when he does that because I just add it to my list of things I'm allowed to do because he's done it. I think he actually would have preferred the last season more than any other because it was much more immersed in the Hollywood it was more like Hollywood self-referential stuff yeah and it was better it was better yeah it was actually better

39:03Sam Claflin:yeah that one that we watched was series 2? 3? 2? 2? which one did we review? I think it was 3 well whichever one it was I did struggle a lot with that I did as well it was a series of highs and lows to be fair focusing on the lows any other news? well there's big news from Channel 4 what? they're going to be putting out a multi-part Taylor Swift documentary. It's very, very exciting. It doesn't have a title apart from possibly just Taylor. It's a working title. Or Swift. Are you sure it's not about Sheridan? It could be about Taylor Sheridan. It doesn't look like it's about Taylor Sheridan. I would be less inclined to watch it.

39:35Sam Claflin:Do you know what? I'm not even sure I would be less inclined to watch that. That would be fascinating. Taylor Sheridan's rise from like Deputy Hale on Sons of Anarchy to like dominating modern television. This is a self-debate in action. Would I watch it? Yes, I would. A mass self-debate. Yeah, a mass self-debate. All right, go on. that they're making a multi-part to Hayley Swift documentary. You know what the big... Which we will review on this podcast. The biggest story of the week in television is, you know what that is, it's the ongoing scandal of CBS's cancellation of the late show of Stephen Colbert.

40:08Sam Claflin:I mean, that is actually very true. This is an absolute... This takes in Donald Trump, CBS, the merger that's supposed to be happening at Zoom, CBS and that production company, whatever it's called, I've forgotten the name of. and it's shaking American culture to its foundations. The latest, David Letterman's issued, this is that news today, issued a 20-minute video in which he talks about how CBS, the BS, sounds of bullshit and all these people are supporting Stephen Colbert. All of his rival talk show hosts went on his show the other night to do a sketch. Oh, wow. He did a monologue on Monday's show after Trump said, I absolutely love that Colbert got fired.

40:48His talent was even less than his ratings. Classic Donald Trump. and he told him to go fuck himself in the Stephen Colbert talk.

40:54Sam Claflin:His ratings, we should point out, he was by far and away the market leader in the late night talk show arena. Yeah, so the whole content, the late show is the biggest of the late night chat shows by far. It's the biggest hit. Now, what's interesting is depending on who you talk to, does it or does it not make money? So according to CBS, it loses the money. I think something like 40 million a year, they were saying. 40? 40, yeah. Which, I mean, sounds like a lot in the skimming thing. Believe it or not, in TV, American TV, is a huge loss. but then other people say well no no it makes money and it has because it's because they clip it up on youtube etc and um and you know show us the figure show us the proof it's actually using money i remember when when james corden gave up decided to end the late late show which was the show after on cbs after the stephen colbert stephen colbert used to lead into um uh his chat show that he's you'd be surprised even though it seems like a fairly cheap type of genre of television a chat show what do you need you just need your host guests who are promoting stuff anyway so it's not that you have to pay them and what you do have in the show American Jones is a massive staff so on the late show James' show I think he had about 150 people working on it you've got the writers you've got everyone everyone writers and with James' show you had all the production of carpool karaoke and all that exactly all of that so I think that was probably more expensive than Stephen Colbert's show because Stephen Colbert has bits pre-film bits and stuff of course they all do but not as many as James had in his show but according to CBS this whole genre they're basically almost kind of saying this genre is dying before our eyes the late night chat show which for me is really sad because I love that stuff I've read all the books about it me being on set that time when I visited James Gordon's I had access to all areas behind the scenes to see how the show was made it was one of the greatest days of my life so this whole thing is wild And what people are saying is that CBS is acquiescing to Donald Trump because Donald Trump sued them over an interview in, I think it was 60 minutes.

42:56If I get the details of the Trump, by the way, again, apologies, because this is off the top of my head. And he accused 60 minutes of re-editing an interview to make him look bad. And CBS gave in, basically, and agreed a deal to pay him off, I think, like$90 million. 16, thank you. Wait, so they were admitting they had?

43:18Sam Claflin:So bearing in mind that they had initially said this was an entirely baseless lawsuit. And let's say baseless lawsuits seem to be quite common at the moment. And if you were, you know, you wouldn't necessarily need a tinfoil hat, but if you were a conspiracy type theory, you might say that them settling this lawsuit for$16 million, which they had said was baseless, it's interesting timing given that their parent company, Paramount, is looking to merge with Skydance and they need FCC approval for that. And so if Trump doesn't want that to happen, he could stop it happening. So one might argue that it just looks convenient that this is when it happened and also convenient the cancellation of the show because Stephen Colbert did, shall we say, call attention to that coincidence quite vocally on his show and Trump doesn't like him.

44:07Sam Claflin:So look, I'm not saying that this is all a big conspiracy, but were you inclined to look for one, you wouldn't need to look very hard. Yeah, don't worry. we're not going to have any baseless lawsuits against us. James is panicking. Is that more or less the cover it off, Woody? You've summed it up very well, yeah. So Colbert has, the most incredible thing is that on his own show, he was slagging off CBS, which was a bold, brilliant thing to do. Well, John Oliver used to do that all the time and still does, in fact, to HBO. Oh, yeah, completely, yeah. But so, you know, he dared criticise his corporate, you know, he bit the hand, if you like.

44:40But the consequence is really depressing. I think it's miserable that you know I mean he'll be fine he's brilliant but it does threaten to sound the death knell for it's the times we're living Boydo I know but it's just really sad and Colbert did point out that you know he said if it is all about the money how could it purely be a financial decision if the late show is number one in the ratings so you know he's fighting against it and everyone I think it's lovely that everyone's all his rivals are rallying around Jimmy Kimmel and etc but we'll see what happens you know I wouldn't be surprised if someone like Netflix a streamer because Netflix has dabbled in the talk show format and the talk show's genre they could conceivably hire him to do a talk show for them something like that so you know

45:23Sam Claflin:he will have no difficulty finding work like the man's incredibly good we don't need to have a whip round just yet also I would like to see you do an interview with Stephen Colbert and I would like you to bring up your opinion on Lord of the Rings to Stephen Colbert who might be the biggest Lord of the Rings stan on earth I know and see what he says yeah okay Challenge accepted. The other thing I think we should mention is the passing of Ozzy Osbourne. Because Ozzy Osbourne, the Osbournes was an absolute groundbreaking... One of the parents of reality television, right? Yeah, 100%. So you cannot overemphasize the contribution that the Osbournes made to that genre of celebrity-based reality TV.

46:02It was an absolute groundbreaker and brilliant. He was the ultimate kind of weird patriarchal figure who would come up with the most bizarre things to say and he was just such an extraordinary TV figure, yeah, and of course turned Shannon into a superstar as well so yeah, from a TV point of view, that's a massive massive thing. I remember we shot him at heat a couple of times. We interviewed him, I interviewed him twice I interviewed him in LA. Wow and in the, I think it was the one of the big hotels where they have bungalows so their whole family was staying in this bungalow at this hotel in LA and by there's a big pool, swimming pool, I'll never forget, and I was interviewing him and he arrived and I was in mid-chat with him, Ozzy, and he looked up and he goes, a rat, a rat, I've seen a rat, there's a rat.

46:49And I was like, really? Are you sure? And I still think to this day there was no rat. No.

46:55Sam Claflin:You're a rat. Yeah, you dirty rat. He thought he'd seen a rat, but there was never ever any evidence that he had. There was a rat in his kitchen. What was he going to do? Amazing. Another youthful reference there, for a UB40 song from 40 years ago at least. I think it's safe to say that Elliot is now stopping. He's going to fix that right. He's not listening, yeah. Anyway, I've got loads of Ozzy Osbourne stories if you want them. Yeah. Save it for the live event. Save it for the live show. Oh, I can save it for what I like to you. I'm going to make one up. So I'll do like... Well, you've already now ruined the game by telling us that you're going to make one up.

47:25Yeah, but I'll do like... Yeah, I could do one that I make up and two that are real and you can guess which one's which. Yeah, there you go. That's my plan. I've hatched my plan another incentive to buy tickets guys clearly Russell T Davies that's one thing but me coming up with a fictional Aussie Osborne based anecdote could be the real seller of tickets I mean I'd buy a ticket for that carry on should we end news there

47:48Sam Claflin:yes please let's do it because I'm getting increasingly hungry and it's not the sight of Kay's weird peanut butter thing that's causing it I did want to mention Sacha Baron Cohen's body transformation oh my god oh my god that is insane no we have to talk about it so this is the cover of Men's Fitness right Sacha Baron Cohen who is absolutely shredded. It is, of course, an absolute coincidence that he recently got divorced. No, it's for the film, isn't it? Yeah, well, apparently, although I have watched all of Einhardt and at no point does he get his pecs out in that, so he didn't need to be shredded to wear, you know, a coat.

48:18Sam Claflin:But, yeah, apparently for Mephisto, he has transformed himself. And yes, he's looking ripped. Yeah. Absolutely. How old is he? He's looking pretty good. What, early 50s? Oh, my gosh, yeah. I'm guessing, I'm guessing. He's 53. There you go. P3. There you go, yeah. Yeah. Who among us doesn't look like that when we take our T-shirts off? Yeah, exactly. But anyway, I'm glad I mentioned it, yeah, because it was extraordinary. Extraordinary sight. Check it out. Check it out, indeed. Okay, let's move on to this week's reviews. And first up this week, we have The Assassin on Prime Video. And this is a six-part thriller from Harry and Jack Williams.

48:53Sam Claflin:And this sees retired hitwoman Keely Hawes enjoying a visit from her son, played by Freddie Highmore. Only for her old life to catch up with her in the most inconvenient way. Boyd-E is horribly compromised, of course. Having not only interviewed everyone, but clearly not for us, but also been generally paid off by the production company. So we turn, of course, to the voice of integrity, Kay. Was this a hit man or a load of wet work? It is an absolute hit. I love this. This is so different from the last time we saw Keeley having a Greek island adventure in the Durrells. This is her being a badass assassin.

49:29So this starts off with a brilliant and utterly brutal fight sequence where Julie, so this is Keely Horse's character, but it's the younger version because it's a flashback. She takes on like myriad assailants and comes out on top and immediately establishes who this character is. But what I love about what the Williams brothers have done very, very well is that it's dealt with so quickly because it establishes, OK, she's this badass assassin. and then instantly it shows that she's got this pregnancy test and then it flips forward to 31 years later or something and then this is the Keeley horse, you know, then she's retired, she's living in Greece and it's just so neatly and deftly dealt with that I think it's like kind of a lesson in storytelling.

50:12Then we pick up and she's in Greece and I just love her character. I think Keeley's having such a great time because she gets to do a bit of fighting but also she's just playing this character who is, she's a mother, as you say, Freddie Highmore is her son who they're estranged and he is a journalist. He's highly anxious. They're completely the, you know, opposites. And he comes to visit her and he's looking to bond and he's looking to find out more about his father. And she is just like, she is so reluctant to reveal anything about her. She's unmaternal. She's kind of cold. She just, she doesn't know.

50:48She would rather fight someone. She'd, you know, it's more scary, like dealing with her son and the emotions connected to motherhood, then it is like, you know, potentially losing a limb. And I love that. She plays it so well. So, yeah, I just love Keely as that retired cantankerous character. They sum her up. They say that she's a perimenopausal James Bond, and I think that's the best sort of like description of her. I just am obsessed with it. Like, I've had to not watch the next one, though, because I want to sort of savour it. oh I mean you need to watch the next one I know but it will just go too quickly but I love the characters and I think the dynamic between Freddie and Keighley is great because something happens which I'm not going to ruin it but this whole thing is that they have to go on the run and it's about their dynamic and their relationship and I think the genius thing about this is that they've made the central character this middle aged sort of cantankerous woman assassin it's refreshing and she is loving it.

51:53If you remember, she pointed out when I did speak to her at the launch. But not for us. Not for the podcast. She pointed out that she played Lindsay Denton in Line of Duty, if you remember. Who was a kind of surprisingly furious slash violent, you know, outbursts of sudden violence.

52:10Sam Claflin:She was also famously in Spooks. Yeah, and famously in Spooks. But no, I mean more in terms of her capacity for sudden battle of violence. Yes. Lindsay Denton was... She was a great character. Was she the only, quote-unquote, villain who came out for a second series? Yeah, yeah. She was in two series, yeah. She was a nasty bastard. She was a nasty bastard. But she had quite a tragic arc as well. Totally, yeah. Nuance nasty bastards. Absolutely phenomenal. I love that character. The bit when she's in prison. Yeah, 100%. And do you remember what she did to the neighbour who caused to make too much noise?

52:42Do you remember that? Anyway, she was an absolutely brilliant character who was, you know, kind of fully capable of dealing with any men in any way she saw fit, even if she wasn't a trained assassin like this character. But this character is absolutely brilliant, as you say. But I love the Williams brothers. I mean, they are absolutely phenomenal from, you know, from The Missing, which they did two series of, Baptiste, the spin-off. Boat Story. Boat Story, which James hosted the screening of. I did. Exactly. And I hosted the in-person screening of. Okay, it's not a competition. It's a rival competition.

53:15It's always a competition, you know that. You are ridiculous. We've both taken Williams bucks. Exactly. Remember, now Boat Race had, they love a bloodbath because Boat Race had the, do you remember the scene in the police station? Oh my God, yeah. The massacre in the woods.

53:27Sam Claflin:That's really upsetting. Right, it's extraordinary. And now in this, so you get the opening, as you alluded to, a sequence, which is when, as you say, in the flashback sequence, which you don't really know what's going on and you don't know it until she takes off her mask, whatever she's wearing, because she's masked. So you assume, part of the whole point of it is you're assuming it's a man, aren't you? It's a kind of obvious, ruthless killer for hire this isn't a spoiler but this is literally the first scene then a thing happens 20 minutes later in this opening episode in the opening episode which is even more violent and is an astonishing sequence which is so brilliantly done I have to credit it's very well choreographed isn't it it's brilliantly choreographed and Lisa Mulcahy directed it she directed the first half of the series absolutely brilliant job she's done because it's so cinematic and that sequence is phenomenal and you'll know it when you see it.

54:23Then there's the connection between, as you say, the relationship between mother and son is brilliantly handled and he's like permanently bewildered by Freddie Highmore. And he's so anxious and he's looking for her for reassurance that she can't give. No, and then he's like thrust into the middle of her mad world and has to like clamber aboard the motorbike so she can escape the sniper assassins. Everyone's after her, everyone's trying to kill her. for various reasons. And he's so funny in it. I think this is one of the most comedic things they've done. I mean, back in the day, when they first started the Williams Brothers, they did work on comedies.

54:59I mean, that was kind of what they did. There's a lot of comedy in all this stuff, though.

55:02Sam Claflin:There is. You're right. But I think this is almost more comedic. I don't know. Like, Boat Story had such a thread of absurdity. Like the killer who decided he wanted to be a potter and sort of chucks it all into, like, glazed pottery. That's true. But I think the relationship between Freddie Highmore and Kelly Austin, it's like a double act. It's like a comedy double act. The banter comes thick and fast. The banter is brilliantly handled. But then you've got how these other siblings, Kayla and Ezra, played by Shalom Bruna Franklin, who was in The Tourist. And he's going to be in The Girlfriend, which is coming up.

55:34Indeed, The Girlfriend, which you know all about, Kay. And her brother, played by Devon Terrell, who's a total fucking knobhead. And brilliantly so. He's excellent, by the way, in that role. He struts around with his shirt off. Yeah, we see him on a boat. He's a boat wanker. He's a boat. He's a yacht wanker. Yeah, yacht. Total yacht wanker, yeah. They are fantastic. And this whole series is almost about different interrelationships with different couples, if you like. And without spoiling it, the connections between them are made clear eventually. But those interrelations are so brilliantly handled by the Williams brothers that all of the main characters in the show and even all of the supporting ones who get to me, there's a guy who ends up in prison.

56:12I mean, you don't really know how he's connected to the storyline. I feel very sorry for him. He is. But those scenes are, again, funny but dark. Really dark but really funny at the same time. They handle, I think they are the best. Tonal shifts. At handling tonal shifts and at jumping, incorporating huge violence and then jokes and brilliant snappy dialogue and all of that. They are the best at it. I think they're absolutely unparalleled. I think this is one of the best things they've ever done. It's so entertaining. It's so fun. And they don't give a shit. they seem to have complete freedom about it they all have her calling people C-words you know so satisfying isn't it but Keely Haw she's having the time of her life she literally said yes I mean she's doing stunt work she's riding motorbikes she's shooting people she's wielding Prime Video don't you think it's brilliant the whole thing this is exactly what they should be doing so I love this this is one of my favourite shows of the year without doubt I've seen the first four or six and every single episode is just fantastically entertaining way towards it

57:14Sam Claflin:it's really good I as you know struggle with tonal shifts sometimes and I remember the Taurus we all know that I like it he says these things as if we don't know I might get my my t-shirt back on yeah your tonal shifts t-shirt look the Taurus I didn't quite and I think it was the tonal stuff that got me but Boat Story was a really good way into William's stuff for me because it dialed up the humour and the absurdity I think more than a lot of their stuff it leaned more heavily into that and actually you start to really get it it goes from really dark and super violent to utterly ridiculous and genuinely, you know, hysterical, like Daisy Hacker doing a comedy Russian accent.

57:50Sam Claflin:Wait, sorry, so why did that appeal to you when you hate Tony Hanks? Well, because, because I think in The Tourist, certainly the episodes I watched, I didn't watch it all, there's quite a subtle distinction between it. So it's not quite one thing, it's not quite the other thing and it wasn't super funny but it didn't take itself too seriously and I couldn't quite pin it down. I think Boat Story, it was very clear on both of them, like the drama really lands but the comedy is genuinely very funny and clearly deliberately absurd. And I think just the way it's structured, and they had this sort of like comedy narrator, you know, as well.

58:21Sam Claflin:All of these, and the title cards. Everything about it was so heavily stylized that I really got what they were going for. I really understood it. So you need a purposeful tonal shift. Yeah, I need to be spoon-fed. I need to be really fucking obvious so that I understand it is what I'm saying. No, fair enough. You need to know it's intentional. This is subtle again, but actually I think it works really well. Like I think the humor is very... Do you think it's subtle? I do think it's subtle. Oh, it's more subtle than the previous one. Yeah, I do think it's subtle. I think Boat Story, and this is not a criticism, I don't think it was subtle because I don't think it was trying to be subtle.

58:50Sam Claflin:It was very obvious in what it was. I think this one is a very fine thread of humour. It's definitely funny. It's definitely absurd. But it's not a comedy. It just has a very nice sort of sharp sense of humour to it. Comedy in dark moments. Yeah, but the thriller at the heart of it is compelling in and of itself. You know, you really want to know what's going on. There's an AI thread in the first episode, which is I thought quite interesting and topical but not in a clumsy way I thought it was quite a subtle use of that which was good she's great he's great it's fabulous really like it we all agree we all agree and that never happens and Gina Gershon pops up in a fascinating role Jack Davenport this life topically enough I'm just giving you Richard Dormer etc yes the cast is fantastic The Assassin then prime video Well, it started on Friday because we followed the review embargo.

59:44We didn't break the review embargo, unlike other publications I might mention. Do we get brownie points? I was going to email, I have yet to do it, I was going to email them saying, I see a certain newspaper break the embargo. We've stuck to it. You can't, look, I know Ozzy Osbourne saw a rat, but you can't be the rat. Very good. Call back. I don't mind being the rat, by the way. Really? Oh, no. Snitches. I haven't done it yet. You know what happens to snitches? Anyway, carry on. Next up. It's already on, basically. It's already on. One video. Shall we move on to The Count of Monte Cristo? Let's.

1:00:14Sam Claflin:Please, God. Let's do it. Right, so this is on you and drama. It is the latest adaptation of the Alexandre Dumas classic tale. Very good. Well, I thought, you know, if I said Alexandre Dumas, you'd just come at me again. So, anyway, this is the classic tale of false imprisonment, hidden treasure, and long-simmering revenge. Here, starring Sam Claflin as Dante's The Man to Whom It All Happens. Now, Boydie, the question on everybody's lips is, was Sam Claflin peak Dante's or a colossal count? Good one, James. Very good. One of the old very good responses. He's happy as well, though. Yeah, yeah. He's very smart.

1:00:51But rightfully so this time. This is what I would call a euro pudding. A euro pudding. It's a co-production. It's a French-Italian-British co-production of various people filmed in various parts of Europe as well with a kind of international cast telling a story, you know, of a kind of, in a period drama, a very traditional period drama way. There's nothing groundbreaking or particularly bold or daring about this show, but it's solid. You know, I think it's a solid, oh, you're looking at me like I've got a completely wrong case, just in case you're not watching on YouTube. Yeah, please don't watch YouTube.

1:01:33No, no, no, I agree with what you're saying, but I think it's a classic story. I don't think it needs to be groundbreaking. I think it, you know. Well, no, my point is, it's obviously literally a story, well, I can't remember when the book came out in 1944 or whatever. Yeah. What I'm saying is... Boyd had the first edition. Absolutely, yeah. Yeah, totally. I thought you meant, oh, right, sorry. When you're adapting a classic old text like this, there's various ways of going about it. You can either go down the traditional route and you're just telling the story in an old school. That's what I'm saying.

1:02:00Sam Claflin:This is an old school. Yeah, it's quite a sort of, it's faithful. It's a faithful adaptation. Whereas certainly like the cinematic ones, they've condensed stuff and tweaked stuff. Sometimes they modernize things. But this is just the facts, man. And basically, Sam Claflin's character, Edmund Dantes, is accused of treason. Basically, he's got two guys who don't like him, who kind of get together and frame him for something that he hasn't done. He's come back from voyages overseas, and very rich places, come back to see his fiancée. And as soon as he sees her, he's kind of snatched away, shoved in this horrendous prison, and left to kind of fend for himself, while at least some people try and fight for his rights and fight for the fact that he's been wrongly accused.

1:02:45So it's kind of, you know, I enjoyed it as it went on. Sam Claflin's pretty good in it. He's an exec producer as well. This is clearly like an attempt to do a Sam Claflin project as far as it's concerned, you know, playing the lead role and, you know, doing a perfectly good job. Jeremy Irons pops up later in the series. He's not in the first episode. And I enjoyed it, but the reason I referred to it as the Euro pudding is it's kind of, I don't think there's anything vital about it. And, you know, it's not exactly must-see TV. It's fine, is how I would describe it. And they've done a decent job.

1:03:18It's relatively lavish, quite cinematic. It's a story about Bill August, who is, you know, Bill Auguste. Who won Oscars for Pell the Conqueror and he's a kind of, you know, veteran. He's in his 70s now, I think. Veteran film director, highly respected film director. But even then, I wouldn't say exactly he brings a lot of directorial flair to the whole thing. It's solid, but I'm not going to carry on watching it in any way whatsoever. That's not going to happen. Again, you're looking quizzical. You disagree. Bring it on, Kate. I completely disagree. Well, no, I... You're not hosting the Q &A for the sake.

1:03:56No. How dare you. No, I agree with the fact that it is a faithful adaptation. It's traditional in its storytelling. All those things, I do agree. But I loved it. I thought it was a really strong first opening episode. I think it's beautifully shot. I think Claflin's well cast in that role. I'm not familiar with the story. I know the themes of it, of injustice and retribution.

1:04:25Sam Claflin:I thought you'd like the latter part. Yeah. Watch your back, James. Yeah, because I had the book and I've never read it, so I was invested anyway. But I just, do you know what? It really reminds me, and I like a literary adaptation, as my rewatch of Pride and Prejudice shows, is that it reminds me of like, BBC went through a phase of adapting Dickens and they had the Bleak House ones and all those kind of adaptations that I loved. It used to be Sunday night, and this feels to me a real sort of like almost BBC Sunday night adaptation. I mean, weirdly, it's on Saturday. I don't know, but maybe Saturday.

1:05:01It's a new Sunday. No one's told me. It's a whole different world on you and drama, isn't it? I think it should be a Sunday show, though. But anyway, and it feels like an autumn show. I've really enjoyed it, and I can't wait to watch more. You pinpoint exactly what I'm talking about, because the Pride and Prejudice adaptation, famously by, who is that writer? Andrew Davis. Andrew Davis, thank you, who took a very bold approach to all of his adaptations, often involving throwing in more sex action than you would normally expect from a period drama. He became famous almost for having romps in the middle of scenes of intimacy in the middle of his literary adaptations.

1:05:36And there are other writers, it's like when Sarah Phelps does an Agatha Christie adaptation, She takes an incredibly bold, ventive, unexpected approach to telling those classic stories. And what I'm saying is... Not all writers have to do that. No, no, no, I'm not saying they have to. I'm just saying they don't in this. And my preference would be for something slightly more challenging, daring and bold, to use the B word, as I often do, than this, which is a straight... That's my point. This is very straightforward, perfectly decent telling. For my own personal taste, I'd rather see something slightly more out there and slightly more challenging and, as I say, daring.

1:06:11That's just my personal preference. But you've pinpointed exactly what I was trying to say better than I actually said it when I started this review. Well, I wholeheartedly enjoyed it. What about you?

1:06:21Sam Claflin:I'm probably more team Boydie. I can't really find a great deal of fault with it. It's a really clear, well-constructed adaptation of the book. But it didn't really hook me. I mean, unfortunately, I know how the book goes, but it didn't really sweep me up in it. It definitely got me in the way that, because it's kind of this wrongful imprisonment thing, like you feel furious about the whole thing and you want to see him get his revenge. So it does grab you emotionally. But I guess knowing how the story plays out, and I don't think there was, as you said, Boyd, I don't think there was anything hugely new in the framing of this story, in the way it was presented, in the way it was, you know, constructed, put together, shot.

1:07:00Sam Claflin:All of it just felt very, yeah, this is solid. I have no notes, no notes at all. But it didn't have any vim. It didn't have any kind of like je ne sais quoi. There was no sort of flair or panache to it. it was just very solid, very, not like workman, I don't mean like journeyman directing or anything, I just meant, it was exactly what it needed, no more, no less. And I just feel like, if you're going to breathe a new life into a classic story that has been told, let's be honest, many, many times before, I always think, maybe you should do something different with it. how many TV adaptations of this have there been?

1:07:30That's a good question. I don't know,

1:07:32Sam Claflin:there have been film adaptations, there have been TV adaptations, I couldn't tell you how many, I certainly haven't seen them all. You're not a Cali Monte Cristo collector. A Cristo completionist. No, I'm not. But I was waiting for the extra something. And maybe that comes on, but I wanted something a little bit more exciting to happen. Okay. I just, you know, a little bit of... Fair enough, difference of opinion. I was satisfied. But if you two counts weren't, then that's fine. Yeah. Don't deny that. Gave Kay a massive bone apart. Oh, God, James. What? Oh, wow. Napoleon is like the linchpin of the entire story.

1:08:12James, I'd like to say that's beneath you, but as we both know, it's not.

1:08:17Sam Claflin:Oh, God. Anyway, please come and see us live. Anyway, that is The Count of Monte Cristo, which airs on you in drama, when, Boydie? Saturday, the 2nd of August, 2025, at 9 o 'clock, and it'll all be available to stream on the You streaming service. All in one go? Know and love. All in one go. Do you know what? I think that's a good shout. Because I do think, like, if it was all available in one go and I'd finish the first episode, I quite possibly would just go into the second one to see. Whereas if it was week by week, I don't think I'd come back to it. But actually, if it drops in one go, maybe people should watch the first couple, I would say.

1:08:47Sam Claflin:Because it is, I mean, it is a classic story. And as Kay said, he's very well cast on it. Yeah. And I want to see him get his range. Yeah, that would be satisfying. Anyway, we are running... And Jeremy Irons. Have you seen any Jeremy Irons bit of it? Yeah. Oh, Jeremy Irons is in it, right, in that case. Yeah. Five stars. Yeah. Okay, we have to move on because we're running out of time but finally this week we have the returning series Jamboree whereby behind door number one the second series of returning Kiwi-Irish crime drama The Gone and behind door number two we have Anne Rice's Mayfair Witches about for its second season oh god where to even begin um I'll very very briefly touch on the Mayfair Witches which is based on the Anne Rice books which are The Witching Hour Lasher and Taltos that's the trilogy I have read them even having read them I had no fucking clue what was going on when I started this.

1:09:33Sam Claflin:So I didn't finish season one and I've just jumped into season two and I should qualify this by saying that isn't the best way to see this at all because not only is it very complex in its plotting but it's also completely crackers. So there's a demon in it called Lasher and at this point he's in the body of a small child and it's all a bit mad. But there's a lot more going in to this season. There's a lot more happening. The plot is a lot thicker. It's a lot more dense which equally means if you are not up to speed and you did read the books many, many years ago, you will be completely lost. But I think a lot of people gave up on the first season because the storytelling wasn't that coherent.

1:10:08Sam Claflin:I'm not sure they have resolved that particular issue with season two. It is still a little bit hard to follow what's going on. But, and I cannot emphasize this enough, I'm coming into this a little bit without knowing what's happening. So I'm still undecided. I'm sort of the same about The Gone, actually. Yeah, because I didn't see the first series. It passed me by, but I know it was very popular on BBC4, wasn't it? So they say. It's a good drama, but when you go into, I mean, it's a stupid thing to say, when you go into a series, it is picking up from the previous story. That's the thing. It's not standalone.

1:10:42I have to be honest. I was expecting this to be more of an entirely different story with two characters from the first season, which are the Irish detective Theo, played by Richard Flyer, teaming up with a New Zealand cop Diana, played by Akushla Tara Koop. and I thought, well, the first series was, because I read about it, I remember it when it was on, is about these two investigating a case. The second series is just going to be another case. But actually, a lot of the story of the first season carries on over into the second season. I'd say the majority, yeah. Right? And there is a new mystery because the journalist, there's a journalist character who's in the first story reporting on the mystery and this time she's the one who disappears.

1:11:19So that's the new case, if you like. But even then, she's heavily connected to events in the first story. So it is a bit bewildering. there's a recap at the beginning which so you could you know I would not advise people to dive into the second series I would say watch the first series on iPlayer if you think this is interesting enough and then watch the second but I have to say even then I would still judge it and I don't think it's amazing I don't think it's brilliant I think it is it's a fairly I would say it's fairly routine for me it's like you know the whole idea of a mismatched cops you know one from one culture and one from another it's fairly that happens a lot it's happened a lot recently it's not particularly original none of this feels original the best thing about it is the depiction of the Maori characters who are interesting, there's a kind of couple who bring up another character and they're really, they're kind of fascinating, they're the most believable part of the whole thing, I think the Irish guy is a bit one dimensional and I don't think it's anything special, I have to say for me and I know it might sound unfair to judge it, having not watched season one, but I am doing that anyway and I am judging it and it feels like not the must-see crime drama of the moment, shall we say.

1:12:27If you want a brilliant New Zealand set, crime drama, Top of the Lake, both series were phenomenal with Elizabeth Moss. They are two... I think you've made up for it by doing that. Thanks. Well done. Yeah, I did. You know, I don't like... There are more New Zealand-based shows, I'm sure, but that is the absolute... Top of Boyde's list. That is top of the list of Top of the Lake. Thank you. Thank you, Boyde.

1:12:50Sam Claflin:Thank you. I know you're trying to wind us up because we're running over. The Gone, then. BBC Two. It's on Thursday. Thursday, Thursday, July, 2025, 9pm, and all on the iPlayer from that day. Mayfair, which is BBC One, Season 2, which is on Monday, Monday the 28th. And that aired in the States, I believe, at the beginning of this year. So many people already have seen it. What else did we miss this week, Boydie? Heavy embargo, Chief of War on Apple TV Plus on Friday. That's the Jason Momoa project about the kind of establishment of Hawaii as a unified state when it's like four separate islands.

1:13:19It's like a historical drama. And we will cover that on Pilot Plus. Yeah. Apart from that, I'm going to allow...

1:13:27Sam Claflin:Twisted Metal is back for a second season on Paramount+. Which is the incredible thing with Anthony Mackie, who's a huge star, and he's in this really freaky Paramount +, kind of post-apocalyptic bullshit show. That's on Friday. Fire Country is back on Sky and Witness on Wednesday. That is the, not to be confused with Smoke, this is about firefighters, and it's a kind of mainstream firefighting American primetime show. And then, of course, Mrs. Brown's Boys is back this week. The boys is back for four new episodes on Friday on BBC One because it's been just Christmas specials and New Year's specials for years and years and years.

1:14:00If you're a big fan as I know you are, then that is, that's a big one. That's KMH Destination X on Wednesday and Thursday with Rob Brydon. It's exciting.

1:14:13Sam Claflin:That's it. Excellent. What's our pick of the week? Oh, The Assassin. I mean, The Assassin. The Assassin. We have a consensus. Brilliant. Thank you very much. We need to leave the studio now. So I'm going to say, please leave us a five-star rating. That's Kay, that's Boyd. They're both on social media. I'm sure you can find them. We'll be back next week. We'll be covering other shows. What's on? Platonic comes back for a second season. Wednesday's back for a second season. Isa Wakanda is on Disney+. Outlander, Blood of My Blood, which is a spin-off to Outlander. And then there's Ridley on ITV1 with Adrian Dunbar, who will also be on the podcast, which is very exciting, but crucially, so will Paul Wesley, who plays Captain James T.

1:14:47Sam Claflin:Kirk in Star Trek Strange New Worlds. And I had a chat with him. You'll be surprised to hear. and then we just have one more show one more show before the live show which is very exciting oh god oh god indeed see you there pilot out