In short
Premier League title and form swings, plus heated debate on managerial futures and refereeing decisions. The hosts discuss Newcastle’s slump under Eddie Howe, Arsenal’s 4-0 win and title credentials, Man City’s shaky response after a 2-0 lead at Spurs, Villa dropping points, and Man United’s 3-2 win under interim coach Michael Carrick. They also argue about a controversial red card involving Matty Cash and Kevin Schade, and assess players’ roles and form.
Guests
No specific guest names or external guest bios appear in the transcript. The panel is described as multiple hosts (e.g., “Lou,” “Tom,” “Will”) but without background details.
Key claims
- Newcastle: no clear “minimum threshold” for sacking Howe; owners’ ambition may become the deciding factor next season, with Champions League qualification framed as necessary.
- Arsenal: recent criticism is “overreaction”; they can’t lose the title because rivals are dropping points.
- Man City: “flattering to deceive” and faith in Pep is wavering; midfield/backline issues (Rodri, Bernardo, Nico Gonzalez) need fixing.
- Villa: possible European-football fatigue; Brentford’s quality and red-card game management mattered.
- Man United: Carrick’s interim record is strong; Bruno Fernandes is portrayed as a consistent leader.
Notable examples
- Newcastle match talk: Eketike and Gordon; set-piece struggles; Verts scoring form.
- Arsenal: Saka injured in warm-up; Maduweki scores; Carl Darlow own goal; three open-play goals.
- Spurs vs City: Solanke brace; offside/foul controversy; City allowed a comeback.
- Villa vs Brentford: Tammy Abraham goal ruled out for ball-out-of-play.
- Cash red-card debate: Schade incident involving a foot “doink” near Cash’s groin.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VODiscussion on Recent Matches
1:28 to 2:15
Hosts share their thoughts on recent football matches and performances.
“So it might actually affect things at the bottom of the table.”
Analysis of Newcastle and Their Prospects
2:16 to 3:48
Discussion on Newcastle's performance and their upcoming fixtures.
“The problem with Newcastle is, I think the stat is we have like four points from like 24 possible against the top 10 and all we play for the next few weeks are top 10.”
Liverpool's Struggles and Key Players
3:49 to 5:06
Hosts analyze Liverpool's recent performance and standout players.
“I mean, we should point out we were on top of them for 25 minutes.”
Comparing Eketike and Torres
5:07 to 7:37
Hosts compare the playing styles and abilities of Eketike and Torres.
“Was it Carat or whatever they're called?”
Eddie Howe's Future at Newcastle
7:38 to 10:00
Discussion on Eddie Howe's tenure and the expectations for Newcastle's future.
“I think, also, he's been a shining light in what's been a pretty poor season.”
Expectations vs. Reality for Newcastle
10:01 to 14:00
Exploration of Newcastle's ambitions and the reality of their current performance.
“So you could lose every game for the rest of the season.”
Eddie Howe's Future at Newcastle
14:00 to 18:04
A discussion on Eddie Howe's performance as Newcastle manager and future prospects.
“He could have been out the Champions League, out both Cubs.”
Arsenal's Recent Performance
18:04 to 21:45
Analyzing Arsenal's performance against Leeds and their position in the title race.
“I know, but Lewis, Lewis, I'm just looking at that.”
Controversial Decisions in Recent Matches
21:45 to 28:00
Debating controversial goals and decisions in recent football matches involving Spurs and other teams.
“But let's move on to a team that actually smashes teams.”
Analyzing the Title Race Dynamics
28:00 to 29:42
The hosts discuss the implications of recent matches on the title race, particularly focusing on Arsenal and Man City.
“That's the only reason why they've given it as a slanky.”
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Future of Man City and Pep Guardiola
29:42 to 31:45
The conversation shifts to speculating on Pep Guardiola's future and Manchester City's prospects for the next season.
“Can we shoot you at the end of the year at Fast and Win?”
Phil Foden's Current Situation
31:45 to 33:58
The hosts analyze Phil Foden's recent lack of playing time and its implications for his career.
“No, I think Pep, no, I think Pep might be prodding him.”
Controversial Refereeing Decisions
33:58 to 35:36
A lively debate breaks out over controversial refereeing decisions in recent matches, particularly focusing on a red card incident.
“Do you think he'll ever, well, hopefully he will, but that 23-24 season, 19 goals, I think the problem is he's not maintained any sort of consistency since then.”
Villa's Recent Struggles and Predictions
35:36 to 38:10
The discussion turns to Aston Villa's recent performance and potential challenges as they navigate the league.
“No, I know it's not a stamping action, but he does, he does like donk.”
Manchester United's Current Form
38:10 to 42:00
The hosts evaluate Manchester United's recent matches and their overall performance under interim management.
“I've put there, are they suffering from European football?”
Debating Bruno Fernandes' Impact
42:00 to 44:10
A discussion on Bruno Fernandes' consistency and leadership at Manchester United.
“and the more I just think, is he just not like fucking incredible?”
The Future of Manchester United's Management
44:10 to 47:20
Exploring whether Michael Carrick should continue as manager based on recent performances.
“But it's interesting because I was reading and it was like something said like Carrick is more interested than just being like a coach sort of thing.”
West Ham's Performance and Relegation Battle
47:20 to 49:50
Analyzing West Ham's recent games and their implications for the relegation battle.
“he's actually undefeated as a manager from his first and another 3-2 back in London Dory Rosnia Rosnia Rosnia Rosnia that's their first ever victory after being 2-0 down at half time in the Premier League era, right?”
Refereeing Decisions and Celebrations
49:50 to 51:20
A critical view on refereeing decisions affecting celebrations in football.
“The Leeds one, you can kind of write off and go, bad day at the office.”
Wolves and Player Performance Analysis
51:20 to 56:00
Discussing Wolves' struggles and potential future of their key players.
“and get caught on the counter and lost, he would have got fucking hammered.”
Discussion on Player Transfers and Team Performance
56:00 to 1:01:50
The hosts discuss the potential transfer of a player and his performance along with insights on team dynamics.
“Well, mine is a bright spark and a poor...”
Ranking Top Premier League Players by Position
1:01:50 to 1:08:00
The hosts engage in a ranking of the top three Premier League players in various positions, sharing opinions and debates.
“Have we done goalkeeper, right back, centre back, left back?”
Debating Midfielders and Overall Player Quality
1:08:00 to 1:10:00
The conversation shifts to midfielders and the quality of specific players, discussing their impact and current form.
“I was really, I was really torn between Gehi and Van Dyke, but I went Van Dyke in third, Saliba second, Gabriel first.”
Midfield Player Discussions
1:10:00 to 1:14:04
A debate on current top midfielders in the Premier League, focusing on their performances and contributions.
“Just letting you know, we've done like a 6-8-10.”
Comparing Garner and Rodri
1:14:04 to 1:16:15
A lively discussion comparing James Garner's and Rodri's performances this season, with differing opinions on their impact.
“All I'm saying is, off your own knowledge, Salah better be in there, mate.”
Evaluating Midfield Rankings
1:16:15 to 1:18:39
Evaluating and ranking various midfielders in the Premier League based on their performance this season.
“No, we're not doing who's the most informed players in each position.”
Winger Choices and Debates
1:18:39 to 1:22:15
Discussion on the best wingers in the league, featuring controversial picks and differing opinions.
“Okay, I've sort of like messed about with the numbers here.”
Final Thoughts on Player Selections
1:22:15 to 1:24:00
Final remarks on player selections for various positions, revealing differing opinions on talent and performance.
“I think there's a conversation for both.”
Debating Striker Choices
1:24:00 to 1:25:50
Exploring different opinions on the best strikers in the Premier League.
Left Winger Analysis
1:25:50 to 1:27:30
Analyzing the performance and potential of left wingers in the league.
“I think he's one of their players that you can't really pinpoint.”
Comparison of Barnes and Cunha
1:27:30 to 1:30:00
Debating the efficiency and impact of Harvey Barnes versus Matthias Cunha.
“Is he a better footballer than Matthias Cunha?”
Stats and Performance Discussion
1:30:00 to 1:32:00
Investigating the stats of Barnes and Cunha to assess their performances.
“So you don't think that would help your argument, so why would we even bother doing it?”
Finding the Best Striker
1:32:00 to 1:35:00
Identifying the current world-class strikers and discussing their merits.
“Like it's the best players in their position.”
All-Time Combined XI Discussion
1:35:00 to 1:38:01
Creating an all-time combined XI of Liverpool and Manchester City players.
“it's fucking went from the heyday of like, Suarez, as a Gueros, you know what I mean?”
Premier League All-Time XI Discussion
1:38:01 to 1:39:50
The hosts debate their ideal all-time Premier League XI, discussing player selections and formations.
“Alisson, Carl Walker, Company, Van Dijk, Robertson, same back five, Salah, Gerrard, KDB, Mane, Harland, and Louis Suarez.”
Comparing Aguero and Suarez
1:39:51 to 1:41:19
A detailed discussion comparing the legacies of Aguero and Suarez in the Premier League.
“Fucking Luis Suarez got 31 in 33 with no pens.”
Center-Back Rankings: Company vs. Stones
1:41:20 to 1:43:09
The hosts argue over the merits of Vincent Company versus John Stones in their all-time XI.
Midfield Mastery: Who Makes the Cut?
1:43:10 to 1:45:14
The group discusses and debates their choices for midfield players in their ideal XI.
“you're having John Stones over Vincent company yep I think so I love company man John Stones is one of the guys who changed the role forever.”
Striker Showdown: Aguero, Suarez, and Haaland
1:45:15 to 1:47:24
A heated debate on who should be included as strikers in their combined XI.
“Or you just realise that I'm batting them all away?”
Finalizing the Combined XI
1:47:25 to 1:52:01
The hosts finalize their combined Premier League XI, discussing player roles and formations.
“Two out and out, inside forwards, playing wide right and left in a 4-4-2.”
Building the Ultimate Combined XI
1:52:01 to 1:54:18
The hosts passionately debate and finalize their ultimate combined XI from Liverpool and Man City players.
“He was like on Explained it to the dogs watching What about a little Bernardo Silva?”
Transcript
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0:34So if you fancy a bet this weekend, make it a smarter one. Download, dabble, enter the promo code Pitchside, bet£10 and get£10 in free bets to get involved. 18 plus, new customers only, T's and C's apply. Please gamble responsibly at begambleraware.org. Welcome back to Pitchside! Hey! Well, you seem pretty chappy, Lou. I don't know what you're smiling about. No, this is a guy who's accepted his fit. Oh, fair enough. We are coming off the back of just watching the Tottenham versus Man City game. So we have that fresh in our minds. And guys, can we be honest? We always are open with the audience.
1:07Me and Tom's just dropped some mints. So if we get a bit wackadoodle. Yeah, but don't go chompsing them on the microphone because this is a podcast and people listen to this in their ears. It's good mint. People listen to this? Apparently so. Yeah, we should preface the fact that obviously, as the day we're recording this, we haven't seen the Sunderland-Burnley match, so we can't really speak about that. So it might actually affect things at the bottom of the table. We don't quite know yet. We lost 4-0. In terms of things relevant in the panel, do you know what? I'll go after we talk about your subject, so we'll move on to Liverpool first.
1:41Yeah, I will. I, for one, would not like to be you right now. Thank you. Thank you. Off the rip. Off the rip. How do you feel to be a freaking bitch? Oh, what? You just got owned by the other slot machine. I'm not taking slander. No, genuinely. When are you actually going to start giving some fair criticism to your manager? I can actually, in about four weeks when we've lost four on a bounce to the upcoming teams. The problem with Newcastle is, I think the stat is we have like four points from like 24 possible against the top 10 and all we play for the next few weeks are top 10. So if we don't essentially beat them all and start fixing it, We had a look at your fixtures and you genuinely, the first time you play a team that's like, okay, fair enough.
2:37Yeah. You might get points here. It's April the 11th. Yep. And that's Crystal Palace. And we used to be really good against the teams of the top 10. So, ooh, those are what's going on. But yeah, honestly, if you want an honest answer, I reckon around after this Chelsea game when we're like 14th, we might be having a conversation about what the fuck are we doing? Or there's a world where we figure it out. Your next game is obviously the semi-final. second leg. Which you're out of. Yeah. We could be in that. Immediate thoughts on that. Really? With your away form? Yeah, but it's the magic of the cup.
3:09This is not the wrong cup. Yeah, it doesn't apply to this one, mate. I don't know. I mean, look, I'll go in with blind hope. We're not really dealing with the amount of games well, even though we signed depth and we started to use depth. We went from looking good against PSG to then just fucking bottling it against Liverpool. I have no fucking clue what we're going to do here. We might lose to Brentford, Tottenham, Villa. Are you scared about the Carabao fixtures as well? Realistically, no. But ask me again after the Aston Villa game when we've lost four on the bounce and I might give you a different answer.
3:39You're not going to lose to Spurs and Brentford. Well, to be fair, Spurs aren't in the top 10, so we do have a chance there. Well, just touching on the game itself, obviously, Eketike turned the game around. Gordon took his goal well. You know, credit where he did. It was a good finish. I mean, we should point out we were on top of them for 25 minutes. We had like eight corners and even though we got seven fucking giants at the back post we continue to not score like we have literally the tallest team in the world and we can't fucking get a corner in against the team that concedes the most set pieces you don't have the tallest team in the world you left basically the tallest boat you have on the bench no you got fucking Dan Byrne, Chow they're all giants mate Chow were great Liverpool's weak area as well there's set pieces and we can't fucking make the most of it and ironically fourth goal you conceded was a corner couldn't tell you what it looked like I was staring past my monitor You haven't seen it?
4:29That whole second half, I was on my phone listening to it and I couldn't look at it. I was like, I can't look at this. For the purposes of your Nick Pope agenda, you don't want to see that fourth goal. Either or, Eketike, Verts, clicking a little bit together now. Verts has six goals in his last ten. Obviously, he's not fulfilling the price tag, but sharing signs of improving. I think everyone can see he's got the ability. It was just a time of adapting to the speed and the... What's the word? The speed. Yes, the physicality of the league. also he's coming to I know this I'm not trying to give him excuses or a cop out I actually do sometimes think it's harder to come in to a team that's been successful because it's like expectation the only way is down really yeah yeah yeah how can you unless they go and win the I know they expected to but yeah I think in fairness he only has played well against the really shit teams I agree I agree I agree Eketike took his goal as well he's class His second one is ridiculously cool.
5:28He should have had a hat-trick. He actually missed the easiest one. He missed the easiest one of the three. I can't believe it. Even his goal midweek. Oh, no, they played some fucking forms. Did you see the goal he scored? Marseille. In the 6-0. Yeah, was it Marseille? They didn't play Marseille. Wasn't it? No, they played like some shit team. Oh. Was it Carat or whatever they're called? No, we played them. They played someone, but he like... Oh, was it Carabaug? I played Carabaug. They played Carriol. Big six, and it was the goal. It was kind of on the break on the half, and he kind of knocks it.
6:01Round the defender. He's so... Yeah, yeah. And do you know players like that? Because I heard after the game, they were comparing him to Torres. I see it a lot. He's more technically gifted than Torres. But do you not think... He's got the pace and the... I understand the physicality side, but he's more gifted than Torres. No, I 100 % agree with that. But you know, visually, when you watch him, I know it might be... He's a bit skinny, though. It might be affected by the whole, you know, they wear Adidas and all this stuff. And the long sleeves, yeah. Yeah, yeah. You know his first goal that he scored against Bournemouth?
6:29I was like, pattern for pattern, that looked exactly like Fernando Torres. I think he's a bit more smooth than Torres. He is a bit silkier. Yeah, Torres was a bit more stiff. He's harsh because Torres was amazing. But if I was to describe Torres, I think some of the words would be like, brute. I wouldn't say that about Eketika. Yeah, I think Eketika is... I don't know. Just visually, there's something, man. Like, I don't know. I think Eketika is ironically very similar to Izak in most ways, where he is. Yeah, yeah. I think he's a bit more polished than Izak. Well, this is what I was going to say.
7:05I was like, Izak's obviously on the bench with a big grin on his face. What, is he even the back end of that? I think aesthetically. I think Izak, do you know, Izak, he's quite flat-footed, isn't he? He looks... Yeah, yeah. He almost looks reactive, Rob. He looks a bit sometimes, but that doesn't take away from his ability. I'm just saying I think on the eye Eketika is really nice on the eyes I think Eketika will and it's not Bob I but I said it from the start I think Eketika especially now Izak's out from injury and Eketika's getting used to the league and adapting in the team he's going to be their best striker I think it's not a bad call from you you said at the start of the season he was going to perform well if we look at the Premier League Golden Boot race it's mainly because I've been desperate to sign Eketika for years now Lou you were right he's on double digits he's unbelievable because do you know when you get rumoured with a player and a big signing and I remember when we first got to call that and I looked at all the stuff, I was like, he's class and I've always kept tabs on him a bit and he's just unreal.
7:58I think, also, he's been a shining light in what's been a pretty poor season. He's stepped up, hasn't he? I know he had a bit of a spell where he went without scoring. Do you know what? I'm going to interject there. You can forgive players that though. I don't think we should overlook Sabozlai as well though. No, Sabozlai's been good but I mean, okay then, he's been the shining light of the new signings yeah yeah yeah in what has been a dismal season for Liverpool standards considering they've just come off winning the league he's he's probably the best striker in the league behind Haaland I'd say at the minute I think that's totally fair and it might actually foreshadow a future segment guys so if you're watching this Premier League review then stay tuned for the clip that's in two days time very quickly Lou obviously I question you a little bit here's Will with his fucking anti-Newcastle start we're a member down so we've got come on Will so this is like Newcastle or shit Reeve told me to do this I did actually I wanted to ask you what is the minimum bare minimum for A-Haw now for Newcastle what do you mean what is like for the season for the season what is the bare minimum now the threshold for not to be sacked I don't think he's going to think he's not going to get sacked this season no matter what this season could go really tits up because you have to think what big profile manager are we going to go we're not going to go get a Luis Enrique and stuff who would you even replace that with No, no, no.
9:21But if you did that at the end of the season, you give yourself an entire World Cup and more time to find out who your new replacement would be. I feel like, because I was talking to Will before and he's like, oh, I think the owners will get impatient. They've actually been very patient. If anything, too slow with a lot of decisions, whether it's like the training ground, the stadium, the badge that's still dragging. So like, I think no matter what, he has this grace period and it's next season where he can actually bring funds in. Because I think there is an understanding that the transfer window wasn't good.
9:48We've lost our best player. We've built our team around and then we've not found a solution throughout the season. There's no way he goes this year, in my opinion. Like, there's... He's built... You have to remember, he's built this entire team and the way we play. Stop swerving the question. What's the minimum threshold? There isn't one. So you could lose every game for the rest of the season. Yeah, right. If we get relegated, he'll be sacked. But like... If he could finish 17th this year and you don't think he'll be... You don't think he's under... Right, yeah, right. Yeah, but okay. That's what the threshold...
10:14I know, but like, that's not going to happen. It's a simple question. Because the thing is... 14th. He'd be sacked for. Maybe, I don't know. I don't see, I wouldn't sack him for anything. I genuinely wouldn't sack him for anything. I do really understand like your loyalty to him because of how much he's done for the club. But in terms of like a perspective, Newcastle are looking to be one of the biggest clubs in the world. That's what they want to get to. He's not going to be the manager for that. I think you're actually doing Newcastle an injustice there. I think they could attract the big managers.
10:42With the project, I think they could as well. I think he's basically blaming Howe for his success in a way. Howe's done a great job at Newcastle but Newcastle's ambition and what they want to do at the club unfortunately like we've told you from the very start Eddie Howe won't be in charge for that I disagree I disagree because I think it's unrealistic to expect constant growth no matter what you are going to over the course of 10 years this is going to be a blip down but it's still high from this start point and then next season if we do go back to where we should be then that's how growth is it's up and down and i don't think especially when you're newcastle and we've seen and make it work yeah yeah you earn time for that and that's this season and then next season he'll be backed massively we are in a very strong place financial reason which and we're still not spending this window because we want to save it for the next period so like he'll be backed massively and then if he does shit next year that's where it's like time do you think bias aside i know you've got serious like loyalty to ready how i know how much you love him he's done wonders for newcastle It's not even that Do you think he's in the upper echelons of managers to cement Newcastle in being a giant in the Prem?
11:55See, I find it really harsh people saying he's not the guy like for someone to be that guy you have to give them opportunity to like I think we all agree he's already he progressed Newcastle faster than anyone thought was possible the only other manager who's really done that jump is Emery and everyone regards Emery as one of the best managers in the world I think Emery's success is painting poorly on how But that's I think that's I think that's mental because Emery's been great but we've had Champions League twice and a trophy so it's like we are yin and yang in a little bit they're having a better season than us but like Emery's done it everywhere I think if you look at this one season and then say yeah it looks bad on how but if you look at the course of both their tenures they're actually quite evenly balanced if anything if you value trophies you could edge it to Newcastle but is it not a case of he doesn't necessarily have the mouse to deal with all these games every week.
12:48Yeah, but he's going to learn a lot from this year. He's had great seasons and then the result of that successful season is he can't manage. He's never been able to manage multiple games in a week. Yeah, but like... Because of his start-up, right? He's naive. He's naive. He will learn a lot from this season. The only way you learn to do that is by doing it and it's obviously not went great this season with... Shouldn't he have learned from the last time? Yeah, that's exactly the point I'm trying to make. The last time... No, the last time is a bit of a different one where like there was zero depth.
13:17This time we do have depth, we've signed depth in. So now we can rotate. He had, he had, he's not like his first time having the multiple games. Yeah. He's used to it now and it's worse. I'd argue we're actually doing better in the Cubs. No, not on about that. I'm saying he can't maintain, your league forms rapidly dropped off because you can't handle the two. I know, but also I feel like naturally, like the first time we did it, teams approached us differently like than they do now. They used to come at us and now they're not coming out so we have to adapt we can't play the way that we played before because it doesn't work teams set up differently against us so it's like I'm back which is why I don't think he's an elite manager we aren't even like through the season and this season's not over by far you just said you're not going to get a point for the next eight games I know but you're a football fan you're emotional aren't you you say random shit if we're being honest we're not even a full season through things could be so much worse than what they fucking out.
14:16He could have been out the Champions League, out both Cubs. So it's like, I feel like there's a bit of an overreaction about Newcastle. I don't think you should sack him at all. I'm just worried for you, mate. I'm just worried for, as a friend, I'm worried for you. I don't think you should sack him at all, but I think you underestimate your owner's ambitions and I just think, me personally, I don't see a world where Eddie Howe leads that team to where they want to be. Next season, if he doesn't do it next season, that's where I think of you. I think if Eddie Howe continues doing the job he does, which is a good job.
14:46He's doing a good, he's done a great job at Newcastle, but it comes a point where it's like, okay, now we go and get a big boy. We're like, we actually go and get a world-class manager, which Eddie Howe isn't, is he? He's just not. I think you think he is, but for the... It's not that, no, because if you're lining them up against like the world-class managers, you can't compare them. But for me, it's like you have to give chance for someone to be world-class. Like they don't just, they're not born out of the fucking man's vagina, now the world-class. No, I know, but... You know what I mean? like they have to be able to have that opportunity but you're the richest you're the richest club in the world with ambitions to be one of the biggest clubs in the world you're not some school yeah but we still have where the managers learn they're trying yeah but we haven't like we have obviously spent way more but like we haven't flexed that richest money we haven't other than like realistically like Tenali and Bruno we haven't made like headline signings like we haven't made headline signings in like in a while since we had that FFP sort of break like since we came back from that it's only been death signings it's not been getting those headline players in and that's what you'll see in the next transfer window.
15:44That's what we're missing. We're missing in that side of the pitch. Back in Eketiki, almost. We're missing Avenizac, like an actual top quality player who can do it. Volomar is not getting service and he's not ready. Wiss is not performing yet. So yeah, we're missing. We'll be fine. I'm backing me. I'm sure you will be but we can always come back to this in four weeks when you've lost every game. No, but again, that's my point. Your owners don't want to be fine. I know, but I feel like They want to be the best of the best. Yeah, but for that, we have to sign those big name players now. We need to get in some actual proper quality.
16:18100 % and do you not think having a certain manager will attract those big players? Yeah. It's similar to when Brian Robson comes to the Albion, obviously he's an Albion legend, but Man United, if you listen to any player, like the Roy Keane's, all their idols were Brian Robson, right? So we could attract like Carnu, Kevin Carley, help keep us up because people wanted to come and play for Brian Robson, not West Brom. Players don't want to come and play for... It's horrible to say, but players don't want to come and play for Eddie Howe. They want to go and play for Pep. Man City as a club isn't really that attractive other than the money and the success.
16:55But people don't grow up thinking, I want to play for Man City, but they'll go, I want to play for Pep. I disagree. There's a certain calibre of a player, not the top players, I understand, but there are a certain calibre of when you're below that top echelon where they do want to play for Eddie Howe for his experience and improvement. I'm not saying the fucking best players that's exactly reflective of the point you just made yeah no I agree with that but I would sooner have a manager who I think is the best fit than rather than getting a big name manager in just so we can attract different players like I'm not saying we're going to go out and sign the biggest names we're going to get like very high quality sort of like up and coming like potential players and like I can't remember the ginger ladders in Netherlands that we were after but for Newcastle to take that next step which is what they want to do I think a statement signing like an Enrique is that next wow here we go and then the likes of I don't know Dembele or whatever then they're like do you know what I fancy if he fancies that project I fancy that project I think I think in a year or two we'll look back and go what a great job Eddie Howe did but thank you it's time for the next sometimes it's a good thing to leave on a high maybe somebody this is basically on you's presuming that he won't do it and I think he will and like next year is where it's going to be do what though what do you mean as in do it next year he has to be in the Champions League again he'll have a big transfer window and we have to be like in really asserting ourselves and actually there can't be there can't be the inconsistency we have now there's no room for that like because as i say he hasn't i'm not boundlessly like we're not like but then it falls on the year after to be able to keep yourself in that position which is what we that was the only point i'm trying to make is it kind of feels like every time you have a bit of success you regress because you can't deal with the i know but like listen i feel like it's just i feel like it's a lot of impatient sort of thing to expect that it's supposed to, like, the teams who were at the top there, they've been at the top for generations.
18:43I know, but Lewis, Lewis, I'm just looking at that. That's the sorry state of teams you're in and around, considering the wages and the money you're, like... Our wages are only, like, eighth in the Prem, that eighth highest in the Prem. Yeah, that's a lot as high. Yeah, we're two behind that position. So you're completely outperforming? I know, but, like, that's user talking as it, with one position, one point off that position, and user talking, like, the season's over, like, It's such a harsh... Look, it might get worse for me, but then it might get a lot better. You're seven points off Champions League already.
19:11Yeah, but... Not already, but... I'm only panicking for you because I've seen you go into such a bad spell of fixtures that you say I'm only one point off these teams, but where are you picking up the points? It could be so much... Yeah, it could get really bad. But also, this is things like... I feel like the argument when we project how we're going to do... You have to look at it how it is now because projecting forward and then judging how off that is unfair because it hasn't happened yet. I was just asked because I think Newcastle are in danger of falling behind where they're meant to be definitely this next month is going to decide it you've got the top six Spurs aren't going to be rubbish forever United aren't going to be rubbish forever Villa are taking over here and I do think the owners will think that at some point yeah I mean to be level on points with Bournemouth he'll have a grace period this year and then next year will be the judge for it because there's zero exclusion do you reckon even finishing like 11th is acceptable, really?
20:07I wouldn't say that. It's not acceptable, no. But I don't think you sack them all over it. I don't think, I think you're... Especially with the teams that will finish above that. Especially with how patient, to be fair, he's earned the patience. And it depends how it looks. It's like, if we're going into it and playing terrible football, but if we're seeing things and we can see what's happening, what we're trying to fix, then it's sort of different scenarios. Like, it's not as black and white as the table. I know it's, again... Nice. I know it's like being, we're making up scenarios kind of thing, but let's say God forbid you actually went out to Carabag go out in the league cup which you're probably going to do and probably lose to Villa in the cup well you might that's kind of if you do do and then finish 11th he's got that has to be no at that point at that point you will be gone you will be gone I think at that point because even like so we hit a minimum threshold because that's like if everything goes to shit and you finish which could happen but like I feel like we're pointless we're living in dreamland now in both worlds we could also finish fourth and win the Champions League.
21:05Yeah. That isn't likely, is it? But I don't think it's, I feel like it's unfair to say it's likely for us to go out to Carabaug. No, true. I was just about to say then, I think you need a decent run in the Champions League. Need it, but just a decent run. Doesn't need to be anything, I think minimum quarterfinal. I think if he can get to the quarterfinal of the Champions League. Yeah, beat one of the big, like Chelsea or Barca. Even if you finish like 12th, you ain't going to beat Barca here, but the thing is, it's like actually for us in the transfer window, And we'll move past Newcastle because I know people get bored of it.
21:35Yeah. But like, we need to finish in the Champions League for money reasons as well. It helps your loads in the fucking transfer window. Well, we'll find out what the final ones are tomorrow because that's the deadline day for the window. But let's move on to a team that actually smashes teams. Arsenal! Woo! Sorry. Does anyone care about Arsenal? Most boring team in the league. 4-0. Saka going off in the warm-up. Madiweki replaces him. Been given as a goal for his as the second as well now. Yeah, Madiweki played really well. Carl Darlow punched it into his own net for the second. Jokeres scored an open play goal.
22:07I heard. And we scored three open play goals, guys. I think, I don't think you can underestimate that. I thought that's a, I think everyone, including you, I said a draw. thought that's a really tough place to go. To go and pump them 4-0 at Ellum Road, I think, to me, that is, I know we've said it before and we've joked about it and this and that, and especially what's happened today. me to me personally that is that's the title for me well based on we've gone back and forth on this though I've said for weeks they're going to win it we're going to come on to the next game in Spurs City anyway but them dropping points like I'm glad it's happening that way it's almost like it's so frustrating as a neutral though like so boring yeah I want a bit of a title race even fucking Villa you useless wankers yeah we'll get onto that as well but I just think, but I think Arsenal are...
23:02I mean, Ray René has to make one save. And I do think there's been such an overreaction for the last few weeks of Arsenal. What do you mean? Everyone just shitting. Oh my God, they didn't score at Forest. And look, they didn't play well against United, but realistically, two great goals have beat them. It wasn't their best day. I know Saliba had a poor game. I thought football won. It did win. I mean, yeah, come on. I mean, an overreaction to everyone being like, oh my God, Arsenal are like, they're going to lose the title now. But they can't lose the title because no one else wins. Yeah, absolutely.
23:37And even more so, Liverpool playing City next week as their fixture. We go on a little bit of a decent run now too. It's done. Obviously, we can touch on Saka. He's in and out of the team. Injuries here and there. Is that the sort of performance where Maduweki keeps his place over Saka? Not if Saka's fully fit, no. Saka is someone who's all that clear and obviously Leeds are really good but like they're not world class players that he's going up against you know what I mean in those individual one on ones he's not going up against the best of their position compared to he's decent depth then he's Madwecky I agree there's no world you leave Saka out are you a little bit what's the word do you want to retract your statement on how shit you thought he was no I think Madwecky is really like I think he I think he is what he is he's like it at Chelsea the hat-trick at Wolves I think he can have his moments of brilliance but 90 % of the time he's sub-par I think fair enough and obviously and that's why he's your backup Jay-Z's fighting for the Yoko's place now as well the striker position at Arsenal's getting competitive I know you keep shunning Yoko saying he's poo and all that but like if we're playing a striker and they score and then you sub on another striker and they score granted it's Leeds etc but the goals are still coming.
24:59And do you know what, right? As much as I've slated him and given him a bit of, some of it is tongue-in-cheek, obviously, for you, Pepp. It's not funny. I don't, I still don't rate him that, I don't really rate him, but what I will say is, what I do like about him is, he does, he does miss chances, but he keeps coming. Yep. In fairness to him, I feel like he has got a decent, like, mentality in terms of, he doesn't shirk away or let it get to him. He doesn't see him anyway, but I just don't... It's the basketball meme, isn't it? I'd rather go 0 for 60 than 0 for 3. 0 for 3 admits that. Stop trying.
25:36But I mean, where he worries me is, I think he's great as a bit part player where you just... I think that's why you said he was brought in to beat these teams, the smaller teams. But if you're looking at like semi-final away in the Camp Nou or something, I'm like fucking hell I can't imagine him being any use yeah yeah yeah and have it started again have it started in the 10 what do you reckon to that how did he play pretty solid I mean it was a radio game so I could only watch the highlights to be fair oh you watch it on the radio yeah it's the thing with Jesus as well you can have to manage his minutes a lot as well like with him if you get 30 out of one and 60 out of the other that's like make the 90 up that way Havard's been alright since he's come back in I think and I think he is a 10 any of us I think that's you want to hear a cool little fact go on Kai Havertz his goal against Kyrat was the first time since Lee Dixon scored against Leeds in 1996 that the first three letters of his name matched the first three letters of the opponent for Arsenal and that's what you're tuning in for that's pretty cool are you sure what for Arsenal for Arsenal that's such a niche fact like it's cool though no yeah it is Kai Kyra nah I don't believe that Lee Dixon leads yeah who's told you that it's probably true Arsenal Reddit nice have you not did Wes Brown play if he had any scored against West Brom or something that would be cool though but no that's apparently that's true mate that's like a 30 year that's like a 30 year I'm going to go home tonight I'm going to go home tonight I'm going to go home tonight it's for you man yes record it's for you mate it's for you mate it's for you fucking record yeah I'm going to go home tonight do my sickle book and think about that I'm going to I reckon there's a players than that.
27:24Well, you write it in the Arsenal Reddit then if you want, mate, and I'll upvote it. Hang on, did you like play against... We can't do this now. Yeah, we can't do this now. Anyway, moving on to the other half of North London. Spurs with a Dominic Solanke brace. Still don't understand how that's not a gay hero. But the second goal is a joke. And... Well, the first goal shouldn't have stood, should it? Yeah, the first goal was a foul, the second goal was a joke. Do you think that should have been disallowed? it's stone wall if it's given I watched it once in full speed and we all went that's a foul if it's given us a Solanke goal by the way it should absolutely not be a goal because A it's a Gahey touch to go in and if that's correct that implies that Solanke's fouled him like by biological breakdown I just should be a Gahey own goal it's not it's been given to Solanke therefore it's a foul therefore it shouldn't stand I don't no that's the other way if they're saying it's Solanke's kicked the wall Well, then he hasn't fouled him, has he?
28:23That's what I'm saying. That's the only reason why they've given it as a slanky. But it's a foul. Yeah, it's 100%. I really don't. I'm absolutely baffled by it. Just that, I honestly think the last two days sums up this title race. Go on. No, like, Arsenal just getting it done. Right, yeah. In a bit of a thinking or a bit of a tricky one. City flattering to deceive again. 2-0 up at Spurs. who are I know it is but forget that Spurs Spurs oh crap and they've allowed them back in like Frank Masterclass Frank Stocks are up I think he walked out the stadium with an Arsenal Cup again Frank Stocks are up he's doing it in the Champions League he's turning it around in the Prem I just think it's yeah that's poor City will be really really and when you when you look at the backline for Spurs that they took into the game Archie Gray right back Dragosan, no Van der Ven.
29:19Even when they're full strength, they're crap. Look at this recent form of City. I mean, like, what the fuck? All that to do with win two of them. This is what I mean. I'm getting to the point now where I'm like, I can't... Even last season where it fell back. Don't see your head last week. You said Man City were going to win it. Because I always thought Pep was like, yeah, Pep will get it done. I'm losing faith. Come on, Pep. I'm starting to think that he knows what he's doing. Can we shoot you at the end of the year at Fast and Win? Ah, yes. One of the most successful managers of all time. Does he know what he's doing?
29:46Well, he said he knew the fix. Do you fuck me? He did, actually. In fairness, it's one game and the first goal shouldn't have stood. Yeah. He was fuming as well, Pep. Oh, that makes a change. We can't watch it without... That makes a change. He's a sore loser, though. He came out and criticised it, but it had to be a foul. One thing I was going to ask about City, are you caught... Like, do you think City will be back next year titling the title charge? I don't know if Pep stays. Do you think? They reckon he leaves in the summer for Maresco. Yeah, manager at City's most important. I don't see Maresca winning a title.
30:18I don't think Maresca's a title-winning manager, personally. He's a very good team. Such a, like, you know what I mean? You've got both their full-backs cooking now. Gahey's an amazing opponent. As soon as Diaz or Stone's back, Semenya doing really well. That midfield needs work. Yeah, but they're going to fix that. I am not having that Nico Gonzalez one bit. Not one bit. I don't know what... I had people, like, leaving me messages, like, when I mentioned it last been, they must be watching something different to me. I don't see it. He come on today, didn't he? Yeah, he did. Number 14, yeah. He was crap.
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30:54And Rodri's not the same player. Bernardo Silva's done, I think, at this level. Yeah, those will be where they're looking at for the next window, innit? I'd like to see who they go. They'll definitely get someone next to them. I don't think Rinders, he's cracked up to be what we thought maybe at the start. Week one Rinders. Are they not in for Elliot Anderson? I swear they were all over them in the January yeah I don't know I'm sure they'll go sign someone in the summer he's such a city coded player a part of me a part of me kind of wants Pep to go I'd quite like to see just a new city I think that could be quite interesting I want to ask you about Phil Ford not playing much at the moment getting literally what four or five minutes what were we thinking there I don't know if it's off again I'm completely fucking guessing I don't know if it's off a kick up the arse.
31:44You reckon it's an attitude thing? No, I think Pep, no, I think Pep might be prodding him. Like what Emery did with all the Villa players at the start. No, I think he might be leaving him out maybe for a couple of weeks and then brings him, get him chomping at the bit, like fucking get him angry. I don't know. I don't know what type of personality Foden is, whether he's an arm around the shoulder or he needs a prodding. I don't know. I reckon he's a needs-a-prodding guy. Yeah. I've grown up on the last of my years. I can imagine Pep giving him silent treatment being like fucking crap and he's like fucking play me maybe that's what he needs well he went through a great run of form in the middle of the season he did know I think that was a bit overhyped as well I think even I overhyped I think he played well I think he's been good this season but for my standards of Phil Foden it's because you want to see him play he's still subpar you want to see him back at his best so when you see him start to cook a little bit it's almost like you've got bias, hasn't it?
32:42I also think, I do think sometimes we forget that they are humans and I reckon that Euros would have affected him all the pressure he had on him and all the expectations and he just didn't deliver and he's never recovered from that, has he really? Do you really put it down to that? I honestly think that would. Yeah, but I mean, he's still a pro that's gone through highs and lows anyway. He hasn't though, really. Foden's had a pretty nice career. He's had a great, yeah, he came into the team performed Greer started winning trophies that's sort of his trajectory I do think we underestimate things like that I do think that I think that Euros would leave a mark on most players all that expectations on your shoulders and he just didn't do anything did he yeah but I mean we've seen like Saka Rashford they came back from worse no I know but not everyone's the same are they no but that's what I'm saying so yeah fuck it I suppose that's what I'm saying And I don't know his personality.
33:42I don't know. I might be talking absolute bollocks, but things like that do sometimes play on my mind. I think we underestimate how much things like that can have a knock-on effect for seasons, not just a couple of weeks where they're down. I don't know. Do you think he'll ever, well, hopefully he will, but that 23-24 season, 19 goals, I think the problem is he's not maintained any sort of consistency since then. It was since that summer. It was all up from then. If you look at his seasons before, it's all up to that. He had that season, got player of the year, going into the Euros. Foden's our main man.
34:16Play him anywhere. We're going to win it. And ever since then, it's just been... Love to see him get back to it, though. World Cup, yeah. I think that's why we're all pulling that way. Yeah, okay. Doing well this year. But you want to see him firing. He has flashes of... Yeah, I think that's the frustrating bit. Everyone can see how unbelievable he is. So that's where the frustration comes a little bit. Yeah. But yeah. Villa. Villa dropping points to Brentford. I mean, what's he going to say about this? How the fuck does that happen, by the way? Brentford are good, man. Brentford are good. Keith Andrews to Tottenham.
34:50First talking point, why on earth is Kevin Sharder stamping Matty Cash in the car? That is not a stamp. I'm sorry, Ron. I don't even think that's a red. That's so soft. It's a double red, man. But he just like moves his foot. Honestly, like... I thought he was going to bomb him at one point when he gets over the top of it. Have you not seen the clip? He's like doing twister over him. And he's like, I'll just get off that. I understand, right, the letter of the law. He's like, he's pushed his foot. Is it really a red flag? What if he popped a ball? What if he like... He was on his thigh. It was on his thigh.
35:26What's inside? Watch the clip again, mate. Will, please. What's inside your testicle if you pop it? Sperm. It's not cum, is it? Yeah, it spooks out. It's like mush. just ends up being so where does your cum get kept don't worry about that mate yours gets kept in your throat it must be in the balls ok or maybe it's in your bladder no you've got tubes ain't you is it in your bladder no right here we go here's the full here's the clipping oh no not on that I might look silly here because I only saw one replay but I thought it was a bit soft like game's gone it does look like he's trying to climb over him no he does it on purpose definitely but it's like he's pushing him off it's like he's pushing him off with his foot he's not he's not stamping on you.
36:06No, I know it's not a stamping action, but he does, he does like donk. I'm amazed they let him wear that, by the way. What? Yeah, the kick clash. Straight red. You can see his cock there. He's got it out. Someone screenshot that. Right, so here it is. So he goes in. I mean, it is red. That's fine. This bit here, he looks back. Doink. That's on his butt. That's right on it. I know, grow up. Look at him for all of that. Everyone has a cock. You know what? You know what? You know what? You know what? That doesn't hurt. That wasn't on his belly. Nah, he doesn't do it with force. What are we debating here?
36:40That's definitely a red. He pushes him with his foot. He doesn't kick him or stamp. I think there is a difference. Am I going mental? Yeah. What do you two think? I think it's a red card I've seen for quite a while. Oh, fuck off, you fucking dingle fairy. Can I be honest, though? It's a red card. I'll be honest. If that's a Newcastle player, I'm screaming for a red, but it's not a red. It's not... You can't kick out. Oh, but I like to think, right, It has to go over the 4 out of 10 pin threshold. Oh no, forced. I think there needs to be forced. It's like this shit lately, right? With the hair pulling.
37:11There was one the other day, I can't remember the game. The guy tries to pull his shirt, right? It's obviously a bookie and a foul. And he accidentally gets his hair, because it's long, and literally straight away, he's like, fuck, and he gets sent off. I'm like, surely... It's not Michael Keane, is it? No, no. Not the one before. Not the one I'm told. I think it was in the championship. Yeah, you should wear hair nets then. Well, yeah, not true. like McDonald's. But I just think, what are we doing? But anyway, is there four points? No, no, no. What do you mean, what are we doing? A stamp and a kick, yes.
37:40That's a little push. Okay, right. I see the point of it not being necessarily too hard. It won't hurt. Because the cock will move. The cock's not pressed against anything. He's not stamping the cock into anything. So see, he's cocky, like he's abdominal. See, that's the cock. It moves like that. It moves like that. It moves like that. It's absolutely not. Right, how about this? I'll get my cock out. You stamp on it like that. And we'll see if you've got that telescope. Anyways, the five points off fucking Europe. No, I know that part. But yeah, Brentford, amazing. Ten men. Dengar took his goal really well.
38:16Could Villa be falling apart? I've put there, are they suffering from European football? Is this another classic? Yeah. No Tielemans, no Kamara. Obviously, they've got Douglas Lee. After we said they don't get big injuries. Tammy Abraham had a goal ruled out for the ball going out of play that's a lot of walk nonsense but what are your thoughts on that it was so far miles away so far back yeah what are we doing like if we're not because that's stupid how far back are we going to go like that is not the same passage of play no it is because otherwise like why don't we just stop it early then you're going to go all the way back to fucking over there they may as well just kick the ball out and start again because anything they do from there it's not going to be allowed it's pointless I agree and it would have been a dream debut for Tammy Abraham as well yeah Well, not really a debut, is it?
39:00All right. Debut for them. He's played for Villa before. Again. Return. Now. This season's debut. This is a serious show, mate. I want you to get your facts right. That's all. Well, admit that someone's staring at your cock and getting a foot in it. Staring at your cock? What's wrong with that? That's fucking out of order. Kevin Sharder. Kevin Sharder, look where he was putting his foot. He pushed him with his foot. If you want that to be a red card in football, you am a fairy. Oh! Oh, you big girl's blouse. You just got... Sider with the predictions. You just got mogged. Right. You're part of that anyway.
39:34I am actually. Where's it? Oh, he's not here. So you want that to be a red card in football? I think he's intended to do it. He's barely heard of it. Yeah, so if I intend to push someone, it's not red. I'll tell you what. If I nip you, is that a red? Yeah, good point. If I pinch you? No. There you go. What if you pinch me and I roll on the floor? If you pinched me with gloves that had male spikes on at the end. Oh, fuck off. He just touched my pee-pee. Mate, most of them wear blades, plastic blades. I just hear people roll about that. I thought you'd be pro-red for this. No! Mate, you thought I'd be pro-red for that?
40:13Oh, because it's Villa on the other end. No, just dance. Fucking get out. And also, it's for bullshit. I've got to find the other side of it. Can we not agree? It's kind of funny. So, like, he twisted his dick it made no difference it made no difference in the end anyways like Nathan Jones said it's harder to play against 10 men moving on to Manchester United what a game again every week not every week another 3-2 they've won it's getting fucking boring now isn't it that's an undefeated record for Carrick at United as interim manager the man United is the best team in the world well I told you also that Cesc is going to be in team of the year how many do you reckon he needs between now and the end of the season I don't know he's not good It was always a confused one with him because he looked like he had the profile.
40:56Genuinely, ahead of Erling Haaland for Team of the Season. How many goals between now and the end of the year? You just have to outscore. I must admit, he has, to be fair, I mean, you said he's like getting it together. He hasn't played. He hasn't been started. Yeah, no, but when he's on, he's actually, when he's played, when he's played, I've been... Tuck's gone really well. I've been quite impressed with him recently. It's making me think... I like him. It's making me like, but that's what I was wanting. I think he's very much a... How do I describe this? Do you know, like a Bruno Fernandes, I think Fernandes can or will play well under any circumstances.
41:32I think Sesco needs other parts to be working for him, to shine. Everything going well. Sesco's not going to create things for himself or do... No. Do you know what I mean? That's not what he does. It's no coincidence since... Oh, yeah, he's not self-sufficient. Their front four and stuff have clicked. Yeah. Yeah, playing Bruno Fernandes, one of the best chance creators in the league, if not the best. Is he the best 10 in the world? In the world? Fernandes. Is he not just like, do you know, the more I watch him and the more I just think, is he just not like fucking incredible? Absolutely. Do you know what I love about him?
42:07Is no matter how shit United get, he's always there to be counted. I was going to say, he's always been there, like through this period. his floor is a 7 out of 10 every game he's the dream I don't think that's true I think he can have stinkers but it's not through lack of trying or trying to make things happen he is a perfect in my opinion my ideal player I'd ever want in my team because I feel like when the chips are down he'll stand up you think him getting him getting captaincy is really sort of elevated he's a leader he was doing it before then as well that's what I mean he's just did he get into any team in the world I'd have him I think he does I think we'd be genuinely I don't want to it sounds awful saying this is an Arsenal fan but if he was if he was in the 10 instead of the options that we do have I think we'd be so much rather ahead I actually think I often think I was talking I was talking about this in the pub actually yesterday but I think Erdogan and Bruno Fernandes are a very good like case study of it's not all about it's not all about ability you could probably argue Erdogan's got more technical ability than Fernandes but I don't think anyone in the world would rather have Erdogan.
43:17Because he stands up and he's there no matter what. Erdogan wouldn't be getting those numbers. And he never goes hiding Bruno Fernandes ever. He's a rat fucker but he's But you want that on your team as well. You want to have the dickhead on your team. Yeah, look, we have you. Quick question. Yeah. He's obviously nine assists away from breaking the record. Does he do it? Is he? Yeah. Oh, well, yeah. I feel like we have this conversation every year no one ever rakes it but he's in the 10 Carrick Ball obviously performing they're going to win the league he definitely can they're playing one a week every game they focus on is the Premier League by the way okay then let's all vote you think he beats it I think they're only going to get the ride in a big weird game yeah I don't think he does do you I don't think he does either do you no so 3-2 you lose 3-2 how ironic for Man United should Carrick keep the job if he just like keeps being class or we just fall into the Solskjaer thing because I think he should keep it I think he's better I think he's better tactically than Oli that's what I think I feel like I never actually liked Oli he seemed very passionate Oli was just pure vibe yeah it was Carrick you can actually see what he's doing and as a player it makes sense and Oli Oli had better players yeah Oli Goodis also had a that yeah for the second that team that team was good though like yeah He kind of just let them play, didn't he?
44:46Whereas, the way they've... I can't remember. Who was in there? Oli had Rashford, Pogba. Okay. Who else did they have? Rashford was on fire. Martial was on fire. But it's interesting because I was reading and it was like something said like Carrick is more interested than just being like a coach sort of thing. But like, surely he's after this now if it keeps going like this. But it depends because it's like the same trap. Roy Keane elicited like... but this was actually after his first game when they beat Man City, that he could win every game between now and the end of the season. He's got a personal thing against the Manido.
45:23Ah, there you go. I don't know if it's off because he took his, when Keane left. Yeah. I don't know if it's about that. Maybe. You know what Keane's like, he's not the most forgiving. But like, as I say, like Haric as a player, it makes sense for him to be a good manager. Yeah. You know what I mean? I think, yeah, he's one of them where like, I think that about like Gundogan now. Yeah. I think Gundogan will be a really good manager. so you can tell just the way they play the game absolutely I like how their reading of the game definitely I'm a big fan of having it's always midfielders man it's always fucking midfielders because they need to know I think a loud club with a very passionate fan base I like the idea of having a manager who's level-headed like that we've benefited from it loads and equally if you have a fan base who's you know you can have bring a manager who brings life into it a little bit but I think Man United could benefit from just having some calm stability like Armourim in the press every week.
46:13It doesn't, it just feeds into a toxic sort of atmosphere around the club. Do you know one thing, one major, major thing about United? I don't know, someone highlighted it last week, but I really noticed it towards the end of the game today. The way they were running and pressing Fulham in like the 90s. Desire. Fulham couldn't, I remember one point they were like in United's half and had to go all the way, obviously they're trying to get it in the box, couldn't even get it in the box. Had to go all the way back to the goalie start again. And like Diallo, Fernandes Aguati were like, absolutely all over him like a rash.
46:44I feel they weren't doing that under Amarum. This has made Amarum look like an idiot. Yeah. He has came across after this so badly. Everyone knew everyone's been a fucking idiot. It was just really entertaining. It felt neutral to just watch it out. Who'd have thought United going to a back four they were actually pretty good. And just, I think it really shows how much the players weren't buying into Amarum then. Yeah. Because they didn't even want to run for him. Did they? took 36 games for Amrum to get three successive league victories like he's just going to have to cut his hair he's actually undefeated as a manager from his first and another 3-2 back in London Dory Rosnia Rosnia Rosnia Rosnia that's their first ever victory after being 2-0 down at half time in the Premier League era, right?
47:42Good subs. You're throwing these stats out today, aren't you? It is, isn't it? That is correct. I believe you. It was at halftime. They showed it on, when I was watching the game, they showed Chelsea lost on Sky Sports. Stats.com, is it? Chelsea results after being 2-0 down, halftime, 56 games, six draws, 50 losses. Props and stuff. So he's actually created history. He's the first to ever do it, mate. Interesting stuff. All of his signings, all of his subs, I have a score to assist him. Yeah, yeah. He knew he made a mistake. Do you know what? I feel like people, because most, 90 % of people, including me and I think us, didn't think this was a good, couldn't see this or thought it'd be good, don't want to give him his credit.
48:27I feel like people are scared to go, fucking hate, actually. Tactically, it's on point. People are still kind of going, oh, well, it's early. No, it's been brilliant. Barely in mind, he's done it in back-to-back games now as well. Turned it around half-time at Napoli. and even in games they've been crapping like they were crap against Paphos they were shitting this one as well Chelsea were rubbish that is one of the best right-sided performances give West Ham credit I've seen them play ever Bowen, Wambisaka, Somerville incredible sub three players on game change as a fan of a team who's often in relegation battles and like I always think of certain games where it feels like oh that's that's a killer that I think that's 2-0 up there imagine winning there at Chelsea putting the pressure on the teams above them and then obviously no sorry earlier in the day Leeds had lost 4-0 they'd have gone there and won that would have put so much pressure on Leeds I feel you can see both sides because coming out of that after reflecting on it a couple days later they'll be feeling a lot better about themselves than say Leeds for example no they won't no they won't because it's a collapse you can kind of Honestly, mate, in my opinion anyway, that's worse than Leeds because they'll feel like even when we get 2-0 up, we still can't get it done.
49:50It's such a kick in the bollocks. The Leeds one, you can kind of write off and go, bad day at the office. We still had great results other than that. But that to me, I think this weekend has been a proper like, whatever the fucking word is, like, that's done with certain teams. The title's done. West Ham are done. I'm going to have to contradict you. They're down. Because this next week's fixes are huge for the relegation side of things. Leeds play Forest and West Ham play Burnley. Yeah. For this next week. I mean, that's potentially a two-point swing on everything. If Leeds and Forest draw and West Ham get a win at Burnley.
50:32West Ham ain't. I can't see them turning six points around on Forest. Genuinely. Or Leeds. turning around? No. Why are we suddenly pretending I think it's going to be tight. They've improved massively from like the West Ham that we were talking about a month ago. Like they've actually went on and got some results. And look, they'll take some confidence from saying like, look, we fucked that there. But like we were 2-0 up at half time at Stamford Bridge. Like they went out there and showed what they could do. I think I'm not, hey, I'm not a fucking Premier League manager, so who cares? But in my mind, I think West Ham should have just gone for the jugular in the second.
51:09No, that's so easy to say. Also, what's hard? I said that in the first one. Mate, when you're third from bottom, 2-0 up away from home, if they'd have come out and tried to go for the jugular and get caught on the counter and lost, he would have got fucking hammered. Everyone would have gone, why didn't he just keep it tight? Why didn't he just sit back and keep it tight? That's right. And also, this is why... Then there's no... No, no, no, don't get me wrong. I don't think West Ham... Unfortunately, Chelsea are just a lot better than them. And once you get one goal, when you're at these big grounds against these good players and the position they're in, West Ham, their arses go.
51:46That's unfortunately what happens. They're against... Chelsea are far better than West Ham. Yeah, also it's the depth of Chelsea. Like we talked about the subs come on. It's like, West Ham, that's where you get done against these big teams. They sub on, oh, this team is performing. Let's sub on three world-class players. Speaking of arses going, we can touch on the Gio Pedro and Traore. Oh, Traore. Do you know what? He's the second worst footballer in the Prem, except for Ambrosia, but he is a fucking big bastard. Just for the passage of play alone, I reckon that's worth the two million quid. It's so good.
52:17It's like a bouncer throwing someone out. He's thrown Cucurella out of the frame of the video camera and then Jao Pedro's charged up to him and he's pushed him and charged up. Then he realised what he's done. In amongst all that though, Tadiba got sent off, which is just... You ever seen Avengers where like Thor hits Hulk and then Hulk's like, just looks at him like, you're a little bitch. Can I ask a question? Do you not think Charo should have been sent off? Yeah, I do think he should have. I don't think so because football's class. Like, for throwing him? I'm asking a question. Yeah, mate, look how far he tucks in, man.
52:51If you're getting sent off a lot, the game's gone. It's the way he walks through. Did he even get a yellow? Did he even get a yellow? I swear to the end, he got sent off, right? But also, the best thing about this... It's a slippery slope if you give a red for that. Before he throws him. Cuccarelli does play I think he does it's a slippery slope if you're yellow in that because then where do you draw the line it's a new fucking let's just enjoy it let's just enjoy it absolutely unreal no but the reason I ask you like that is I think if you think the the push of the foot is a red do you not think that's a red you just want a red for everything you just want people to have six men I don't really think Tadiba except from when it's Arsenal Tadiba got sent off harshly I think it should have been between the people that originally instigated it rather than well yeah the top four race is quite exciting actually I think that's going to be the most exciting part of the season it has been all season a little bit it's never really got going for the title I don't personally think the relegation battle is going to be that exciting but I think you guys seem to another fucking ridiculous refereeing decision the football is gone you can't celebrate a fucking goal especially when that Lego-headed prick spends half his game on like in the centre circle for Arsenal and gets away with it yeah Moyes celebrates a last second equaliser does a little all he did was like a little dance and ran straight back off and he gets fucking booked what sort of I hope Moyes I know you're watching this David and number one David big fan of what you're doing don't let the haters get you down don't let them drink your hater raid mate you keep fucking dancing unless they're Premier League officials Should we book Mourinho as well?
54:34For when he's fucking running around celebrating all the time. No, it's called fucking football. Different rules in Europe though, isn't it? That's a lot of shit. I hate... It ruins all happiness. I hate the whole concept and ideas of punishing, celebrating. Celebration. Basically, punishing fun. I already hate... Why are you getting booked for taking your top off? Draw the fuck off. It's football. Why are we policing fun and happiness? They're banning knee slides. Oh, you see Joe Willick's knee slide actually against PSG. That was one of the top 10 knee slides of all time. He went for like, he's still going now.
55:11Also, yeah. Should we talk about those useless dog heads? I thought they played well. I mean, I know they lost. Hey, I'm not, you know more than me. 17 points of truth and you said they were going to stay up. I thought you played well. We started off really well and then the head just dropped before we considered that first goal. He's the shit, mate. Yeah, we are. We are really shit. Yeah, again, like we've said, or like I've said, because I am the oracle, Wolves cannot seem to perform other than the West Ham game when I think West Ham were just so diabolically bad. You were good. Wolves only seem to have done okay or played all right when there's no pressure on them.
55:48I feel like games like that, it's like Bournemouth at home, yeah, we could maybe. I feel like it's just, you just know. They cack their pants a little. Soldstrand last for now as well. That is confidence as well. There must be so little confidence in that team, like just naturally. Well, mine is a bright spark and a poor... Yeah, I mean, I'm kind of just thinking, I don't want to replace what he is because we're just going to lose him in the summer. Mate, he's gone. Genuinely, he's like, he's... I don't know, do you reckon you'll keep him in the summer? I hope so. I think he might stay for a year.
56:17He might give you a year. Greeners did it, didn't they? Greeners did it with Villa. Yeah. And then he left when he got them back up. Yeah. So maybe we'll do that. The differences though, you could get some good money for him. Yeah. but will we win the championship yeah because he's aged and he's English and does he he's born in Portugal he moved over here when he was 14 but who does he represent England I think he sounds English when he talks Either or Creepy He's a good goal Yeah England He's I love him He's doing bits this season I love him I'm filling in the gap For Cliver Isn't he at the moment And Alex Scott Unreal friend of the show Friend of the show Friend of the show Friend of the show All 17 fans Celebrating Going crazy They were going mad In that way With the guy Who called us out And then yeah One of them Was still there in a huff Because he was getting chanted Do you reckon Bournemouth fans Know that There's a stone in a cherry Fucking hell Because they've got heart of stone eh cherry warriors for life
57:18and then the final game of the weekend not including Sunderland Burnley was Forest Palace Mr. Maranaki Starby another calamitous red card yeah Neko Williams what a save by the way I rated it so oily I love handballs like that I love shit like that that is up there with Stephen Taylor you're never going to get away with that ever do you know why I like Stephen It's like he's forgotten that every single part of this game gets if we haven't yeah do you know what I love about it it's almost like quite innocent in the sense of in the moment you don't think there's a million cameras that are going to watch every he fought in a split second I could get away 100 % you see the clip after and he processes the fact that Oh my.
58:09I'll do right. This is getting cleared on the big screen. It's like... If we do have any younger listeners who aren't old enough to remember, the funniest one of all time is Stephen Taylor. So fucking good. Do you remember one of that? I don't know. Can we search it? He pretends he's been... It's so bad. He's like... He's rolling. It's so fucking good. Stephen fucking Taylor, man. That's not him. This is a British author. By the way, are you searching as Stephen Taylor? It's a V. look at this yeah oh it's so this isn't the game where they were fighting I'm but right there as soon as he sends him off oh by the way that's one thing I miss circular red cards yes what happened to them on stream oh such a painful shot to take to the what a boy man some player alright that's so oily yeah But yeah, Stran Larsen coming in.
59:09Yeah. Stran Larsen is coming in. By the way, what a big titty babby, Matete. Matete, you are a fucking ungrateful little prick. Do you know what? You are absolutely... This team made your entire career. 100%. It is more than fair for you to want another move, but to force it instantly in January, and post a little fucking... And have Instagram stories on, angry face, unfollowing everyone who's a Crystal Palace fan. We got you, Oli. You're a fucking little prick. Ungrateful twat, and I hope you're failing Italy. And it's also... Hey, hey! It's the worst thing about football. It's fine for you to want another move, but there's a way to do it when a team's giving you everything.
59:41Especially the way Palace fans have taken to Metetra and all the boom-boom and all that. You're nowhere without them. And you're basically just going like that to them. Do you know what? I understand he wants AC Milan. Of course. What an amazing move for him. Especially, I think he's quite patchy and very inconsistent. But look, it's a great move. Does he need to do that? Why? I completely agree I completely agree It's money What does he gain from it? Because he's going to get his move Why turn the knife in And just like I don't get it It just is a lot When someone does something like that Gay here is the captain by the way That's how you do it When he does something like that It sort of questions his character Throughout the whole time Because you don't just All of a sudden become A dickhead like that The whole time He's a selfish knob Oh wow Sorry He's only got 110 as well so it's not even like he's been banging them in and like he's not their most important player he's out of form he's treating his club like that who do you think you are you're shit mate Strand-Larsen about 45 million yeah could have had 60 we've done well there very well that's still a lot of money it would have been a bad sign I do still think Strand-Larsen's good though I like yeah he is well they can't have I wouldn't judge Strand-Larsen on this season I would say no joke side they've actually kind of improved I think they've improved oh yeah I'll say this quietly I think in a year's time we'll look back on that's quite a good swap I think it's a really good I think they're way better off I think Stran Larsen's think about think about how much Stran Larsen profited in a side where he had two really good wingers alongside he's in a palace side where they basically have four wingers every game I think he could cook it's interesting when he comes off the bench in the games and you just go he's well better than any of our we just can't play him because the fans have turned against him he hasn't looked interested has he Do you know, but I'll tell you one thing.
1:01:34Do you remember any corner against West Ham in the cup? He's unreal. Two goals. I like Sean Nass. I think he's good. Thank fuck the dogheads ain't got him anymore. Well, there you go, guys. That's the Premier League review. Now we're going to move on to ranking our top three Premier League players in every position. Before we start, can I just quickly cement my... Have we done goalkeeper, right back, centre back, left back? Yep. 6-8-10. 6-8-10. Right wing. Right wing. Okay, cool. Okay, I'll go. In third, Alisson. I don't think he's the best anymore. in second Raya first Donnarumma welcome to the big leagues my son that is the correct answer I went third Raya second Alisson first Donnarumma Alisson's had a bad season but against us he was good man to be fair no Alisson's still great I just think yeah but that would imply that you're moving forward you're doing it as in credit and the bank applies yeah a little bit look it could be at the end of the season or next season I'm ready to I also think I'm ready to let go I put Alisson in third, Ryan second, and Don Rimmer.
1:02:32I also do sometimes think, I'm going to argue against myself, that sometimes Alice, maybe he's, yeah, just because he's had a few chinks in his arm the last year or so, I'm being a bit harsh. Yeah. But that's what happens when you're, that's what happens when you set like such a fucking standard. Right, right back, Reeve. I have gone with, on the basis, I'm going to do it as a back four rather than a back five. Yeah, Mateus Nunez, second Rhys James, first during the time. Oh, fuck off Reeve hey I'm never going to change that opinion right just quickly who's a better player Rhys James or Julian Timber Rhys James Rhys James Rhys James you're an idiot and even I'm an idiot what look this is going to be a peaceful episode but I just I don't know if it is I cannot I struggle how you can watch those two players and come to the conclusion Timber's better I don't know what he's better at I don't know what you're doing I just, I think...
1:03:32It might be a while. I think Rhys James is the better player, but I think if you're doing a list in terms of who's been the best right back and who's the better right back... No, just because Rhys James has filled in a sentiment and, by the way, been the best player on the pitch every time he's played there, just because he can play multiple positions doesn't take away the fact he's naturally a right back and he's a better player than Timber. You can argue that. You can actually... Yeah, you could argue that, couldn't you? That's not the aside when the arguments are come well. You can argue that.
1:04:05For me, Tim's just got more credit in the bank from season and last season. Be honest with me right now. If Tim Burt was playing for, say, Aston Villa, would you be putting him first? I think he benefits in your system a lot. No, that's not... I think Rhys James is the system. I wouldn't, though. But that shouldn't be a detriment to how good he is at Arsenal. No, it's not. Because he's a different club. We're on about the different level of... I think Rhys James would be the best player. I think Rhys James is better than him, but I, you know, I'm sat in this seat and I wanted to continue some sort of agenda.
1:04:34So there you go. Hold that. I've got Munoz, Matthias Nunes and Rhys James. You haven't even put Tim Boreen. What? You can't pick on me from mentioning me first if you haven't even gotten top three. That is crazy. That's worse than mine. At least mine's kind of biased. Yours is just being stupid. You are stupid. Number one, we're having a peaceful episode. Number two, do you think Munoz is a better right back than us? First of all, he plays wing-back You think Munoz is basically a right winger We have to group it up You honestly think Munoz is better than Timba? He's doing it at a different calibre of team Because they got bought by the team.
1:05:15There's a reason he plays for Arsenal. I know, but there's a reason that Munoz is wanted by the big teams desperately Are they? Man United No, they don't play a back five anymore They still want him I'm shaking my hand right now Munoz will not be a Man United player I have a feeling with wingbacks I feel like I don't think you're that good if you've got to play wingback if you have to be such a specific role it's like who wants to be a fucking wingback I don't think he's still linked with United either mate I think he'll just change he's going to get a big move he's going to progress from Palace anyway left back what did you say?
1:05:51oh yeah Nunes, Timber, James Boo Rhys James is arguing I'm going to say Oh my god I'm going to say a statement here He's about to say something guys Everyone tune in This is going to be Fucked I think you could argue Rhys James Is the best footballer In the Premier League Oh Jesus Whoa Fucking hell In terms of just Ability All around ability As a footballer You mean if it was 11 Rhys Jameses Would they win Yeah The classic argument Could be Declan Rice I think I'd take Rhys James I think it's those two I don't mind it yeah there you go guys feel the ball knowledge tell your friends guys that is now fact Rhys James is the best player in the world actually statistically based on the fact that right left back I struggled a bit with this I didn't I kind of don't agree with it oh my god but I couldn't really think of anyone else to go third I've put Calafriori third ooh Lewis Hall's second with that much time out as well yeah he was a really good one before he's injured
1:07:01yeah I was trying to think of a third and I thought O 'Reilly but he fills in at midfield I don't know just sorry no I mean what have we just heard there no but I mean but Rhys James is definitely the best right back and I couldn't choose O 'Reilly no but the difference is I don't think O 'Reilly I think O 'Reilly I don't know where I'm going with this stop stop stop yeah I don't know why I said that outrageous I just I don't know O 'Reilly I think O 'Reilly's good he just does I think Califari's been better at left back I don't understand that I think O 'Reilly's better in midfield who's your top?
1:07:35Hall second Cucurella first I went O 'Reilly Hall Cucurella in ascending order 3-2-1 I think I agree with that I went Calafiore I'm just completely contradicting myself I went Calafiore third Cucurella and Hall because we're doing this currently right now I don't think that's crazy Cucurella's not been good for he's had a poor few weeks I promise you pulled them back I promise you Lewis Hall if we're doing it off today as it stands I don't mind Hall at first honestly I think we are going to be very fortunate if we keep a hold of it he's four players for the three in conversation I think he's fucking phenomenal are we missing anyone there Dogu could you class him Robinson if he's he's been poor there's no one for me he was jumping out to get in there not that many good left back right centre half This will be interesting.
1:08:22You dare. You dare. I've, what the fuck? I was really, I was really torn between Gehi and Van Dyke, but I went Van Dyke in third, Saliba second, Gabriel first. I've gone Saliba, Van Dyke, Gabriel. I don't, yeah. Yeah, he's top three. I've went, Malik Chow. Oh, fucking hell. He's not though. I'm joking. Oh, God, I love Dingo. Woo! Wow. See it again. Guys, guys, just a reminder, in 2026, I'm coming with ball knowledge. I've gone Van Dijk because he has still got money in the bank, bitch. But he's fucking, he's begging to be taken out of this top three. I'm not going to lie. I think he played well against you.
1:09:10Yeah, he did. He did. That's what came into me thinking. If he had a stinker against Dotsie, I do think Van Dijk's errors and bad games do get scrutinized to the end. It was just the other day. Who was he playing against? It was a Tottenham. Who was he against? Bournemouth. He just got out the wheel of the ball when he got cut back. He was terrible against Bournemouth. Then Saliba, Gabriel. Yeah. What a... I think if you would have told... If we'd have spoke 18 months ago, I would never have put Saliba ahead of Gabriel. Yeah. I mean, I never would have put Gabriel ahead of Saliba. Oh, yeah, you've always been pro-Saliba over that Gabriel point.
1:09:46I just think Saliba is... I think there's been a few chinks in him. Mate, even when we did the Domino's thing, you were like, how could I fucking go? Oh, yeah. I was like, hey, show you the line. I just thought he was such a Rolls Royce, but I think Gabriel's improved so much. Massively. So much. In both areas of the pitch. Yeah. Both sides. I like his mentality. Right, holding midfield. Okay, I reckon... Gets messy with the midfielder. Just letting you know, we've done like a 6-8-10. I reckon a few of us may have like interchanged some of these. Yeah. Because I don't know where certain players would have, you'd have put...
1:10:17Yeah. probably is a bit messy I'll start with this I've gone I've really I've done all this off the top of my head so I really really hope I haven't forgot players I've gone Xhaka Rodri Caicedo I didn't include Rodri that's crazy yeah I don't get Rodri either I don't think he's been that good at all this season I don't think I think he's been below his level we're making it we're making this list now it's current yeah it's current it's the last current twist you put Munoz in he's only just come back from injury yeah you put Xhaka in there do you still think he could play for one of the big six yeah what a sign he's been have you seen the difference when he's playing and Benz is not playing Sunderland look like a completely different team he ran Tonali ragged in the derby as well that's a nervous statement how is that signing being missed by everyone else it's just it's got to be one of the best bits of business in Premier League I may be talking shit here I remember either reading or watching something about a Sunderland fan and they were talking that Xhaka, I think Xhaka had options but was excited at the...
1:11:20Prospect. The, like, the challenge of Sunderland. What he said, his quote was, he wants to go into management one day and he thought the relegation battle will be, like, a good experience for him. How fucking fast is that? And it turns out him arriving is just completely... Do you know what? And, like... Yeah, he's like, shit, I'm not going to relegation battle. Too good for him. Too good to learn. He's proper bought into, like, everything, hasn't he, there? Like, he's... It's quite easy to do when he's always red and white. The thing is, it's something when we got our Bruno in and stuff. When you're like Sunderland and you get a player like Xhaka in, you're going to be fucking hailed by their fans more than you would at any other team.
1:12:00Do you reckon he's the best player in the world? Xhaka? I do not know. Come on. No, it's not better than Rhys James. Nice. Zinger! Right, boys. I got you my Evertonians. James Garner. Oh, fuck off, Lewis. I'm not afraid, Lewis. Are you taking the piss?
1:12:20At least you know he's not a right mate. That's always better. Do you think James Garner's better than Elliot Anderson? Do you think he's better than Adam Warton? I don't think Elliot Anderson's in this position. You push it a little bit more. He's in the eight. He's not in at all. There's a lot of good players. Do you think James Garner's better than Elliot Anderson? No. Not exactly. I don't class him as a... I don't class Elliot Anderson as a... They're different players. Yeah Do you think he's better than Adam Wharton? Currently, yeah Adam Wharton's just got himself sent off Adam Wharton's not had the season that you're talking about I agree with that I was looking at Adam Wharton He has not been having the season I hate when we do this Currently, right this second You can take the last six months, mate He's been better than Wharton He's been in better form He's not a better player, is he?
1:13:07This season, who's been a better player? Garner I'm taking up a big sample size It's not like we're ten games in the season, mate we're fucking more than halfway through hang on Warton's had a poor few months yeah but he started the season well yeah but I'm not saying he hasn't but Garner's been consistently great but Garner's spent most of the season at right back yeah oh you can't go against that it's in about 4 or 5 games in centre mid as well it's just people remember him playing there because he's had to fill in I think that the big thing with that the argument is Garner's gonna have his best ever season big club probably won't come in for him Warton's had a poor season they're still gonna come in for him yeah that's true and there's no bias he's got any Xhaka in your list yeah oh sorry you'll find out is he you'll find out okay you can find out who's second Gravenberch then I've gone Kai Sader so you're talking about this season you put Gravenberch in yeah that's a weird one yeah but like there's a blend so where's Xhaka yeah he's probably in like fourth so you think Garner has one been better than Xhaka this season and two is a better player I will admit you've been unbiased with the Tonali shall they I could not fight that corner you haven't answered my question what was your question you heard
1:14:18what's your question you think Xhaka hasn't been better who's been better this season Garner or Xhaka it's quite easy that and who's a better player it's actually really easy like have you put I'm sorry James Garner you're having a great season and fair fucking play love you James lad like I think I think he's very underrated goes under the radar how is he the third best DM in the league nah he's not he's not even better than Matias Fernandes he's more forward do you know Tom do you know Tom he's more forward you have fair arguments yeah you have some fair arguments what do you have to say I can see your points and I think they're valid yes William no Rodri from either of you I haven't done mine yet Rodri's better than Garner not this season Ivan he won the fucking ball not this season not this season you're not going to put Salah in you better not but I wouldn't no hang on yeah you've done him there You have Salah in If you have Rodri You should have Salah We'll wait We'll wait We'll wait But my point is Do you have Salah?
1:15:18We haven't put He doesn't have Salah Come on He doesn't have Salah It's actually He's so hypocritical He's got an assist Yeah Wait My point is The comparison would be If I put fucking John Arias over Salah No No it's not You've got Rodri in Be spaced off You just said he's won a Ballon d 'Or Rodri's still been good You said he won a Ballon d 'Or That's in the past No no What about Salah? All I'm saying is, off your own knowledge, Salah better be in there, mate. Right, but Salah's never won a Ballon d 'Or, so what are you talking about? He's been one of the most successful right-wingers in Premier League history.
1:15:49My point is, the reason I said, oh, he's a Ballon d 'Or win, that's the level of his ability. And he's still been good this season. Yeah, he's been good. He's a good lad. I think he's been okay. And Rodri's better than Garner. Oh, yeah. He's 10 times a player. I'm not advocating the Garner shout. What do you mean, not currently? You've just agreed he's a better player? Not this season. Not this season. He has not been a better player than Garner this season. He's a better footballer than James Garner. Who's been the better football this year? We're making it about this season. No, we're not doing who's the most informed players in each position.
1:16:18We're doing who's the best. Currently. It says a lot as well because I think what we're doing is where probably, like, you're putting Garner at such a high level because you didn't expect him to do it. Yeah, I disagree. No, I think that's unfair. I'd actually argue Rodri has been better than Garner this year, but because of the level we expect, just because there's been a drop-off, it's still a higher level than Garner. I think the argument is completely hyper-ball, actually. If you actually look at the stats across players in Garner's position, he was ranked third across all of them. This guy, statistically, has been having that season.
1:16:50I mean, I've seen this a couple of weeks ago on Sky Sports, so I wouldn't be able to pull it up, but I feel like that's just an argument that we can't prove or disprove that he surprised us, so that's why he's there. Statistically, he's been unbelievable as well. Back yourself, bro, go on. I'm not backing myself. I'm backing Ghana Ghana I got you my G JG We start with you man Okay You know what I'm going to actually Back you up here I'm going to I'm not just going to Pick and choose Ghana is ranked 5th in the Premier League For midfielders Average rating Anderson's ahead of him though Not in that Same sort of player So technically Ghana bumps up Where's Rodri Rodri is Nowhere near Yeah So I'm not surprised by that Statistically I'm not surprised by that Yeah keep scrolling Roger's not even on the list he's not on here hang on yeah he's only played 11 games yeah he won't have played enough games that's the reason I didn't include him that much my three I know he's just been injured is Uri Tielemans Roger's got an average rating of 7.29 James Garner's got an average rating of 7.4 so it's close it's pretty close yeah okay but Garner's played more games so it's actually a more impressive rating indeed so you actually might agree with me yeah I think I would probably take back that Garner has been better than Roger this season but I still think it stands that it does count on what you expect from them.
1:18:10Do you not agree?
1:18:14I didn't even know he's good. Okay. Right, my three. I know he's just got injured which is kind of unfortunate but I think he's still been amazing this year. Yuri Tielemans in third, Granit Xhaka in second and Kai Sade in first. Do you know what? I... I wanted to put Telemans in but I didn't I half didn't know which one to put him in it's got to be a six innit do you reckon yeah he does get forward though yeah yeah but I feel like he's I feel like he's I feel like he's I feel like he's I feel like he's a seven oh six seven bro come on man we have so much integrity what was yours then Telemans third Xhaka second Kaisilla first fair fair alright in the eight In the eight, I've gone Subozlai third, Bruno G second, Rice number one.
1:19:04That's exactly the same as me. Okay, I've sort of like messed about with the numbers here. Because technically one of the players has been playing in different positions. So I put him bang smack in the middle. I'll allow it. Yeah, you know, he'd bang smack in the middle. So we're putting Bruno G, Bruno F and Rice. You're not putting Bruno Fernandes. He's a ten. He was actually crap when he was... Yeah, but he's been playing half a season there, half a season there. So put him in the better one. Put him in the better one. He's a ten. You mix it in the middle. Lewis, he's a 10. He's not been playing the six.
1:19:33He's not been playing... Lads, lads. When you say in the middle, it would imply that he'd have to play in the six for eight to be in the middle. His middle, numerically, would be a nine because he's been playing eight and 10. No. Don't fucking do that. I had lots of 10s I wanted. It's such an easy format and you've still fucked it up. I thought you'd be complimenting me upon not being biased enough. I'll put Bruno G behind him what the fuck's that Bruno Fernandes is a 10 yeah his best position where has he also played this season he's played in the 8 but his best performance is primarily in the 10 so like you said he's played in the 8 but that's I feel like that's such a waste of where you can play in this list no no no because I've got three other players who I wanted in the 10 so this way I get all my midfield so who have you missed out then I don't know Bruno G Bruno Efren Rice is my three so miss that Sabozloy feel like you're not going to like to see who I've got in my ten you've got him then well go on do your tens now then because we got the same we had the same eights so on third I've got Sabozloy why have you done that why have you done that he's not really fair he's not he always pushes up he's so weird he's not he pushes up just swans no No, that's the order I want them.
1:21:04You're being weird. You've got production laughing, man. You're being weird. Can we, just quickly, let's predict the penalty.
1:21:16Sorry, we're getting a bit goofy. We had some mints. Let's do it like, actually do it as, if you were to do Sir Rosli as an eight and Bruno as a ten, how would you rank them like that? I would put Bruno up into second. So we would have all the same three then for centre mid? Yeah. Fair enough. And then what would you do for Bruno in the 10? I would put him below. Who were your other 10? Sorry. He didn't do that. So Boz, I've still got Palmer. I know he's had a shit season, but it's Palmer. And then Rodgers as top. I went Rodgers, Palmer, Bruno. Interesting. I went third and Rodgers, Bruno. I'd probably just put, or it'd be so hard to decide.
1:21:52Yeah, if I've Rodgers for Bruno, you have to? No. You got it? Why don't you see Why don't you see Why don't you lock mine Palmer I just For this season Foden's just had a bit more credit Oh wait you have Foden Yeah Yeah but Palmer's been injured But Palmer's better than Foden Off the chat we've just had as well He's just been called the problem By his old manager No The problem child I am the problem He's the nightmare And you I'm the nightmare KSI Do you think Rogers is Do you think Have you got Bruno number one I've got Bruno Fernandes first I've got Bruno one yeah Rodgers second and then Foden do you remember when you all pissed your pants at me when I said Rodgers was better I thought you had a good point well they've never played in the same league at the same time comparatively have they so you can't see it first in first out oh so that's the only way we can compare players if they're playing the same league at the same time yeah what is the point of any football conversation ever there's no point we should talk about other stuff yeah I love oral Or what?
1:22:58Right.
1:23:02Yeah, Palmer's... To be honest... I think there's a conversation for both. I wanted to include Foner at some point because he has really good spurts this season. Yeah. And so... Yeah, fair enough. I'm not going to argue any of them. Yeah, I don't want to argue with any of you just because you're my friends.
1:23:21Right, let's go to right wing. We're such good friends being here. Let's go to right wing. All right, I'll start. I struggle with the wingers because I wasn't sure. I have an opinion, right? All wingers this season have been shit. No, that's not true. All of them have been shit. That's not true. And I've also, I don't think you're going to like the way I've done some of mine. I hate it, mate. I shimoned people in across. I've gone Cherky. Oh, I didn't include him. Fuck. Estaval. Oh. And Saka. We have very different ones. Oh, shit. Boys. damn I went Harry Wilson Saka and then I know he's been playing nine a lot for Man United but Mboumo I put Mboumo in the nine because he's a weird one though I feel like I originally had him in the right wing and I'll be honest I moved him because the striker because the striker options oh shit yeah that's annoying I've got Wilson Mboumo Saka same three I can't believe you haven't got Esteval I think he's amazing I do Esther who?
1:24:28I just feel too early in and out of the team for me to to see him is he not just like blowing you away when you watch him he's an amazing player absolutely he's better than Harry Wilson whoa friend of the show Harry FPL GO Harry Wilson's been talisman for a Fulham side that's doing really well fucking Harry Wilson Esther Vance's better than Harry Wilson he's got two first names mate that is true Wilson Wilson alright fair enough left wing I'm probably more annoyed that I didn't put Cherky in rather than Esteval I think Cherky's shown I was closer to Cherky but I thought fuck that I think Esteval's better than Cherky I think Esteval this year has come like you're seeing bits of that I think next season he's just going to explode I think you're going to see a world beat he's going to go beast more yeah beast more I think within five years he will be at Real Madrid Esteval I think he'll be I think he'll be one of the best players arguably the best player in the world I could see him winning a Ballon d 'Or I think he's that good what like Madrid?
1:25:24you thought that was going to happen you've got really bulging eyes you know that it's because he's dying God gone right left wing come on then I've gone N 'Jai good shout Doku and Semenyo I went Kunya, Doku, Semenyo I didn't I originally had Kunya but he's not a left winger he's a left 10 yeah which yeah what position is Kuna's best? I think he's one of their players that you can't really pinpoint. I'd say 10. I think he's a 10, but he like drifts out to the left. He's weird, isn't he? He's a great player though. Bingle fucker. And Dye's a good one though. I think I kind of just forgot about him a little bit because of that part.
1:26:08I think Kuna's a better footballer than Njai, but I didn't know where to fit Kuna in. I've kind of copped out. Why are you doing that? You just, what? Picked on me for something. What's wrong with me having me fucking uddle? You're well weird, man. You've got a bogey in your nose as well. Oh, bogey boy. I've got Harvey Barnes, Docu, and Semenya. He doesn't even end up on the left wing at the moment. He gets shit out to the right. He's doing it in the Champions League. He doesn't even start for you mostly. Do you reckon he's started more games this year or been on the bench more? More recently, he's came in to start and I don't know more.
1:26:47That wasn't my question. No, no, no. Don't change the narrative. before we get the stats up do you think Harvey Barnes has started more from the bench I think it's close it'll be pretty even that's such a diplomatic answer you are such a shit house with answers you never actually give an opinion I think it'll be pretty even I think it'll be like a couple games either way so which one which one probably his bench Martha oh so you agree with me that's irrelevant though oh it is if anything it's 23 pieces no it's 11 no it's more yeah 23 pieces 11 12 started, 11 off the bench. You were wrong, actually.
1:27:22You've no faith in Harvey Wilds, man. That's crazy. That's irrelevant. It shows he's worked his way in the team, which is actually a credit to him. He's been unbelievable. He's a fantastic player. He's a fantastic football player. Is he a better footballer than Matthias Cunha? Yes. Yeah, you don't believe that. Well, he's more efficient. Based on what? His goal-scoring record this season. Oh, right. Is that the only one you judge? Well, Cunha's got two and two. Cunha's been injured. That's how I'm judging him right now. Cunha's been injured. Well, that's not my fault. I can't say... I'll imagine Cunha not being injured and how many goals he would have got.
1:27:49He's been injured. It's not his fault, but he has been. So fuck him. Harvey Barnes has been great. That's a good argument. He's been one of the shining lights in our team. Yeah, for a team in 10th. Two goals in 11 games, Lou. Docu Semenu. Two in 11. Two in his last 11. He's been on fire. Wait, Harvey Barnes in the last 11 and Cunha's on two in his last two. Well, that surprises me. So actually, I think Cunha's more efficient. That really surprises me. Is he not? No. 100 % hit rate now. Why don't we look at the whole season? Why are we looking at Olsen in the last 11? You said he's been more efficient.
1:28:19Yeah, so let's look at the old season. Go on then, let's have a look. He's got five this season. You're looking only Prem here. Why are we not looking at the Champions League? Man United are in the Champions League. That's not fair. It's irrelevant. We are in the Champions League. The best way to judge them is the same league. No, no. Harvey Barnes has been in the Champions League, so that's of course relevant. It's not relevant to the Premier League. I don't give a fuck about Cunha. That's the debate. But Ali Barnes has been performing in the Champions League. You don't say, ignore all these great performances in this league.
1:28:50You are like a politician. You actually are like a politician. We're discussing who's more efficient between Cunha and Barnes. So surely the best way to try and do that is to do it both in the Premier League? The same competition. No, because they're in the same competition. No, because Barnes has had a great performance in the Champions League, which is why... No, no. Yeah, but that's the reason he's in my top three is because not only his great performance in the Prem, but it's performances in the Champions League so that's relevant to my decision so you want to compare what it's like Champions League goals to Cunha's League Cup goals I don't care just to compare to Cunha but we are that's the debate alright let's not talk about anything in front of us end the show you're basically going oh all these performances at Barnsley let's just not think about those and compare those I've literally just said to you twice no I'm not at all but we're trying to compare Cunha and Barnsley's efficiency so how can we compare Cunha's efficiency against Barnsley's Champions League goals because Barnsley could have had better performances in the Champions League than the Premier League and that's No one's annoying that.
1:29:45What's the best way to compare them? No, so ultimately, let's say Cunha, we have no idea, let's say Cunha was more efficient in the Prem. Right. Would you then use that as a reason why he should be in the top three over Barnes? No, I think he's a better player regardless. No, no, but do you think that would help your argument? No, but we didn't bring up efficiency. So you don't think that would help your argument, so why would we even bother doing it? Because you brought up efficiency? Yes, because I'm thinking on the larger scale of Harvey Barnes games I've witnessed, which has also been the Champions League.
1:30:12He's performed great in the Champions League as well. Oh my God, no one's denying that. But you said he'd be more efficient. We were like, I'm not sure about that. Let's check. So he's gone to check Premier League goals and you've gone, what about the Champions League? Because he's been efficient in both. Cunha's six goals, two assists. Harvey Barnes, five goals, no assists in the Premier League. Can we look at the Champions League as well, which has came into my decision process. My decision was based on also his performance in other leagues. Don't you think that's an unfair comparison though?
1:30:39Yeah, but unfortunately he's not in the Champions League. which is why it's a silly comparison it's not because surely you're just valuing their performances in the Prem then no I don't understand how you just can't grasp this do you reckon Lou I don't have to explain to you if football clubs say Real Madrid were told you have to buy either Cunha or Barnes who do you think they'll buy Real Madrid they'll probably just go for Cunha yeah why is that because he's more of a sexy player okay what do you mean by good looks yeah number one he's got a cool name number two he's Brazilian number three and he's a better player number four no that's not my number four you don't think he's a better player I'm sorry do you think this season Barnes has been better than Cunha yes or no no that's why we disagree but no but the fact of do you think Real Madrid would sign him I don't we do this argument a lot but that's not really relevant there's a reason Harvey Barnes wouldn't play for one of the massive clubs because he's not that that's fine and I agree he probably won't But like, that doesn't mean he can't make...
1:31:41Garner probably won't either. But then we've soon seen that statistically even great. Put him in over like Walton and Anderson. But when you actually looked into the stats, you realised you were very wrong, Tommy. No, he's had a great season. I agree. But he's not better than the other players. I disagree. It's a different thing. I think Cooney's been underwhelming at Man United. The list is like performing abilities, isn't it? Like it's the best players in their position. Guys, this is the beauty of our football. This is the beauty of our football. Because otherwise, Roofs would have been the keepers, wouldn't they?
1:32:07We all have different opinions. No, 100%, but also it's fun on a football show where we debate and talk about things, where we actually put a debate forward. I know, but if I'm talking about my reasons for why I put them in, if you're just shouting at me for putting them in, and I'm like, oh, can we look at the stats in this competition for why I want them in? And you're like, no, no, no. No, no, no, hang on, hang on. It's hard for me to explain why. Our argument was that we thought you were silly for putting Barnes over Cunha because we think Cunha's better than him. You said, well, Barnes will be more efficient.
1:32:33It actually hasn't been more efficient in the only competition they're both playing where we can compare them. When I'm talking about Barnes' efficiency, rather than thinking about this one competition, I'm on about in recent appearances that I've seen from him. Look at him in the Champions League, lad. Brilliant. This is what I mean. You just cut one goal there, two goals, one assist, one goal, one goal, and you're cutting all of that out of the debate. No, we're not. You are. Yes, you are. How can we compare Cunha's Champions League stats against these? Forget about the competition. Just look at all the games.
1:33:02Look at their last 30 games then instead, and that can be your number. because you're cutting out this, which is extremely relevant. Do you not think that's extremely efficient there? I think that's really good. From a team that's not scoring. Can I ask you a question? Do you think the Premier League, what do you think is more difficult, the Champions League group stage or the Premier League? Let's see the fixtures that we were against there. Well, he scored against Union City, however it's pronounced. Benfica, twice against Benfica. Yeah, yeah. He hadn't scored against Barca. Marseille. Any half-decent team you've played, he's not scored.
1:33:33Any Premier League level team, he didn't score. Benfica are a crime also that's not fair by the way if you say let's take the last 30 games of both Kuna and Barnes Kuna was just smashing in goals for Fennett Wolves like if we go that far back we'll do what you want Harvey Barnes has never had a season like Kuna did at Wolves who were like relegation fire there's a reason he got bought from Man Utd no matter what you want to say the Champions League is the creme de la creme and he's smashing in goals no no no that is that is the biggest load of shite I've ever heard in my life the Champions League group stage is 90 % dog shit Spurs are fourth in it they just drew with Man City so I don't know what you're shouting at me for I don't know what you're arguing why do you when you have no good comeback you just go you're shouting no because I don't want to go around in circles but like I've told you why I've shown you the stats you don't like it that's fair enough it's not that I don't like it well you do well you definitely didn't like it so the opposite of that was dislike it should we do a striker Yeah, let's do Strikers.
1:34:35I went Thiago third, Eketike second, Haaland first. I went Mbwemo, Eketike Haaland. Igor, Thiago, Eketike Haaland. Same as me! Eketike Haaland first. Do you know what? I'm going to need a full plan, Jesse, while you've said Igor, Thiago. He scores fucking goals, man. He does score goals. What can he do? At least you know he's not Igor Jesus anymore. We have a big problem on the prep of like, no fucking like, strikers. These days, it's fucking went from the heyday of like, Suarez, as a Gueros, you know what I mean? Even a little Jekyll going on, Tevez, Rooney. Now look what we've got. Are you doing this on purpose?
1:35:12Because of what the next section is. Oh, shit. How many world-class number nines do you think there are in the world? In the world? Haaland, Kane, Lewandowski still. Mbappe's still a nine. Are we going Mbappe's a nine? I don't like that. He is a nine. I don't like it. I think if he played in a nine, he would be one of the best. Eketiko? not world class not yet I think he is do you think Isak is no yeah fully fit and fire on Isak fucking hell what are we doing do you have any shame no you know these you know these actually film is that what the lights are for these might work oh is it I thought these were sitting on it could be it could be what it might be six or seven world class striking it might actually be Martinez he's not even where is he at the moment where's La Toro Martinez at the moment he's not even Inter I never liked him I have no reason why he just fucking I feel like if he came to the Prem he wouldn't do it Alvarez maybe I don't know I don't think I'd give him world class no I have a higher threshold of world class though I think there's three or four right with all the talking points around Manchester City chasing Arsenal in the Premier League we're going to do our top all time Combine 11 once again of Liverpool and Man City Combine with me that's Razclat NFL Combine because it's Super Bowl week as well isn't it what's the combination key combination style who's actually in this do we know yet what I haven't been keeping up with you I usually do isn't it oh it's the Seahawks founders versus the the Yellow Tigers or it's got to be the Seahawks I think they're going to win it but yeah the Miami Dolphins always doing great.
1:37:00Oh, it's the Seahawks Patriots. Ah, yes, I did see that. The Pats won. Go Pats. The Philadelphia Broncos. Well, there we go, Legion German. Right. Combined 11. Combination style. I reckon we save Lewis to last because I guarantee he's got some mental team. I think mine's pretty beast mode. I think this is easy. I think it's easy. I think mine's pretty beast mode. I really think it's easy. I'd be really surprised if anyone's got any different. There might be one or two maybe. If that. A push. Two at a push. Have you just got Kirkus? Right, I'm going to go Alisson. I'm not going to say if I have it or not.
1:37:35Then I'm going to go Walker. Van Dijk. Wee Company. Robertson. Then I've gone Mines of Diamond. They can just do what they want. Gerrard, Yaya Torre, Kevin De Bruyne, David Silva, Aguero, Haaland. I went different. I'm different. I went wide. rather than Diamond. So I went Alisson, Carl Walker, Company, Van Dijk, Robertson, same back five, Salah, Gerrard, KDB, Mane, Harland, and Louis Suarez. Wait, start again, sorry. From the top? No, from the midfield. From the midfield, Salah on the right, Gerrard and Kevin De Bruyne in the middle, Sadio Mane on the left, and then the top two of Louis Suarez and Erling Harland.
1:38:22I think mine might must be the best. So, same format, different shape. Your team's got no stability in midfield though no it's not but you can't not put Salah in can you you know what I mean right you can time for the actual corrective I must admit I weirdly forgot about Salah but I wouldn't change my mind I think your team beats mine though yeah how many Liverpool players have you got three four how many have you got Reeve six fuck off how have you got six Alisson Van Dijk Robertson how have you got six Liverpool players Salah Mane Suarez Formation. They're the most dominant team in Premier League history other than United.
1:39:03Who am I supposed to change? You got no David Silva? That's crazy. I went wide. I think in the Prem as well, Aguero has to be over Suarez. Just for longevity. Suarez had one elite season, like one and a half a mate. He's arguably the third-placed footballer of our generation. Not while he was in the Prem. I was on the cusp of becoming that. But he wasn't in the Prem. He was at both. Fucked yours. Do you not agree with that? I get why you've got Aguero in over him because he's on Suarez was unbelievable if we're talking hang on alright if we're talking Premier League who are you taking Omri or Ronaldo you're taking Omri Omri aren't you but Ronaldo's on the cusp of greatness won the Ballon d 'Or and then left and then became the second best player of all time I'm biased in that department though no but I mean I think most people would agree with that so I think using that same sort of logic you can't have Suarez over Aguero I think that I think Aguero is like arguably the best striker ever in the Prem other than maybe Romare and I think you're both forgetting someone best goal per game ratio I know he got injured all the time but he was a mate Aguero in the Prem killer I think I think you're having Aguero up there for longevity but depends what you value more if you value peak or longevity I think Suarez Suarez's 13-14 was better than Aguero's or is it 14-15 sorry I mean look no 13-14 was Suarez right Look at his record in the Premier League.
1:40:30Like, 26 in 33 and then... Yeah. Go back, go back. 31 in 33, no penalties. He got 24 in 34, 26 in 33, 24 in 30. Fucking Luis Suarez got 31 in 33 with no pens. No penalties. Yeah, mate, that season, that one season is better than any season Aguero had. I agree. But it also led to nothing. Surely that counts. Aguero's goals and moments led to things so what do you want us to do just agree on everything no no it's a debate I think they're both entitled to be there but in my opinion I think the Suarez that I've watched as much as as much as I fucking love Sergio Aguero and I think he's one of the best footballers Premier League's ever seen I think peak Suarez just there's only a handful of people that ever touched that ability in Prem
1:41:25I think Pete Suarez was probably a better player but I think you have to have a Guillermo in ah fuck off Will can I throw my two cents in I think he goes Suarez so do you think do you think you're being do you think a part of you subconsciously is because of what he did after as well yeah 100 % you reckon yeah that's fair also because of what he became also I'm really I'm only it's for the debate I really aren't that strong on it I think it's you're not crazy at all he was so good it might have been a better debate if we just started this episode at 10am guys but it's currently yeah and I do also think me as well I'm a bit maybe he's unfortunate but also a bit he did have a great record against the top teams in England Suarez like I'll get your stats up and obviously weren't helping me earlier like this were you and also the that's brilliant when they really needed him the collapse like the Gerrard Slipper then Crystal Palace he was kind of nowhere to be seen but yeah I mean I can totally see the case for Aguero I just put loose where I was in 11 goals 5 assists in 32 see he only that season he only got 4 goals against the big 6 7 contributions in 9 it's not awful I think wasn't them one a hat trick as well which is I mean that doesn't really take away from it but anyway go on hello I've got Alisson in goal good start got Kyle Walker I've got Van Dijk and I'm thinking about a football team that I want to work together oh shit I've just I don't want I don't want company I want John Stones I was just about to say I should have gone with John Stones John Stones I think I prefer him to company really him and John Stones and Van Dijk together is a better defensive partnership you're having John Stones over Vincent company yep I think so I love company man John Stones is one of the guys who changed the role forever.
1:43:21I think Company is... Although, actually, in my team, I'd rather Van Dyke and Company because it's a bit yin and yang. Yeah. I think Stones... I actually disagree with you there. I think that's too passy-passy. You want a bit of grit, don't you? No, Van Dyke brings the grit. No, Companies are probably... He's got some grit. Companies like... Companies like Vidic. Companies are two left feet, mate. He's shit. No, no, no. Actually, no, I think you do put Company ahead of Stones, don't you? I think it's got him. Yeah, I agree. Thank you for joining me. I disagree. I think we do get caught up sometimes with the ball playing.
1:43:53Companies are a better defender than Stones, aren't they? People will put the company in their top 10 Premier League centre-backs of all time. Stones is nowhere near it. He's not nowhere near it. He's changed this. John Stones, for 30 feet, mate, was unbelievable. He changed the role. That year when he cleared it off the line. That year when he cleared it off the line. It's phenomenal. that year mate I think he's so disrespected because of his injuries his injuries is disrespecting him loads it's metal but unfortunately that does kind of play into company had one massive injury didn't he and then he was pretty available to my knowledge he scored that great goal which he connected with perfectly on purpose he all says that left back Kolarov I'm choking that was a good joke everyone laughed Zinger did work that time mate and he was smiling so why don't you just look at things with a half glass full-time mentality.
1:44:47I kind of got the impression that you're doing it as a joint player. I can tell when... Yeah. Then I've got Rodri, KDB, and Gerrard. Oh, you've gone 4-3-3? Mm-hmm. Oh, we've all gone different. Mm-hmm. Ah. That's going to be interesting. Salah, Raheem Sterling. Raheem, Reggie, Reggie. I actually don't mind. Yeah, that's not right. Oh, yeah. And then Suarez. I had to actually change that because I forgot. I didn't realise it was Premier League, so I did have Kevin Keegan there, but it is Premier League. so Suarez it is Kevin what did you say I did have Kevin Keegan in for Liverpool days but then I realised it's Premier League Kevin Keegan be the second choice out of all the strikers if this was not only Premier League it would be Kevin Keegan why the amount of goals he scored the amount of trophies he won with him why would you not have Kenny DeGleach ahead of him no Kevin Keegan please that's weird no reason why no Ian Rush no no Kevin Keegan I haven't seen Ian Rush before when have you seen Kevin Keegan play seen highlights you thought you played for Newcastle in the Prem no I didn't I didn't specify I didn't specify what division actually I just told you wouldn't bring it up when you're watching all these highlights Lou what year was Keegan at Liverpool I don't know I can tell you 1971 yeah you've done your research won a lot of trophies all scored over 100 odd goals no he didn't he scored 68 no all competitions mate you need to learn more he scored a bang on a 100 yeah there you go I'm not Dubs in the chat, boys.
1:46:16You said over 100. Any more questions, guys? Or you just realise that I'm batting them all away? You said over 100. Like Tom perfectly said about Rodri, I also thought you'd win a Ballon d 'Or. You think Suarez above Haaland for you, is it? Yeah. I'm just going to say, why no Haaland? But I think that's my bias of what I like to see in a striker. Like, you could argue Haaland easily. A bit more complete. But I prefer, like, not as a person, but as a football player, Suarez about just winners as well what but Holland okay okay alright yeah midfield three is an interesting one pretty beast mode so see him see your team again from the midfield Rodri KDB and Gerrard do you not score some goals in there would you not consider Yaya ahead of Rodri I looked at Yaya but I was like who am I getting rid of because I fucking love to I would argue if you're putting Suarez in you'd have to put Yaya Torre in because they're very similar in terms of the profile of their time in the league you think Tiro's better than Rodri you say I'd have him in my team I think Yaya Torre's a better player than Rodri I loved Yaya Tiro to first I wouldn't be angry at that I think he's such a unique player I can't believe you have David Silva I only had two centre mids I was like who am I going to not have in I think Yaya is the type of player where he can one man midfield I don't think Rodri is quite that level of I think by a three you made a midfield do you know I think David Silva's the most underrated player in Premier Street I really it's just so hard to scream leave an out I think he's amazing but you can't put him in a midfield to head Gerrard am I ticking KDB out am I ticking Gerrard out am I ticking Roger out I think if we're talking Premier League you could definitely argue Silva ahead of Gerrard but they're just different positions they're not out and out centre mids are they Silva's not let's say your three midfields combine back to back just so we can Gerrard Yaya Toure Kevin De Bruyne or David Silva play them in whatever formation you want.
1:48:11Salah, Gerrard, KDB, Mane. Two out and out, inside forwards, playing wide right and left in a 4-4-2. You fucking idiot. Then Rodri, KDB, Gerrard and Salah and Sterling on the wings. Sorry, no one was listening. You didn't say say forwards. Just midfield. Midfield. Rodri, KDB and Gerrard. Gerrard. I reckon if you'd have gone with Torre instead of Rodri, you may have may have nicked that how far off is Zabaleta from this team quite far off yeah because I'd have Trent what about Ben Jarny yeah Trent I'm surprised no one had Trent I thought someone might have gone with Trent we should do like I thought about like Carl Walker is just like a fucking animal when he was in his prime we should do like the worst combined 11 one time you wouldn't know any of the players yeah we'd say names and people go who are they the reason why people were engaged with this you have no idea what I know he has no idea I do very very little you have no idea I knew Keegan scored 100 goals for Liverpool so goalkeeper defence everybody seems to agree on try and agree now the team a pitch side combined 11 depends what formation we're playing I think we have to go with two strikes two strikers that's what I vote so let's decide on the strikers Robert Peppers scissors no who are the options who did you have well you're the deciding vote then aren't you I've got Aguero and Haaland I said Swires and Haaland but you haven't chosen really.
1:49:40No, but I'd put Aguero forward if I had to choose only one. Why don't we just call Aguero Salah? Aguero or Suarez, man. Who? Suarez? Suarez. Let's just put Aguero and Suarez together and let them run right. No, Harland's got to be in this team. He's the greatest goal scorer the Prem's ever seen, man. I won't allow Aguero not to be in it. That's my two-pence. All right, well, I'll put forward Harland. Who are you putting forward from your two strokes? Suarez. You didn't put Suarez. I had Suarez. so then I get I get the deciding vote then Aguero-Smaris so you have Harland and Aguero Harland-Aguero are up front right now midfield how do you want to do this honestly depends if you want to go wider I must have Gerrard in I'm happy to have Gerrard in so Gerrard's a lock are you going to pick the players first and then the system I think so we could even do a cheat Gerard Tura Kevin De Bruyne Kevin De Bruyne is definitely in Locked Yes Locked that shit Kevin Then we can either do Another two midfielders Or another midfielder And maybe throw like Suarez up front in a three That is crazy Oh yeah That's fair Now people will think We're stupid No you could play like Haaland as like the pinpoint And then Yeah they're up the back Yeah they're up the back there That could actually work That would score goals More than one Yeah Should we do that Yeah we're doing that You're our ball Yeah So we're going to have Aguero who was an arrow in our goal and up front and then behind we've got KDB and Gerrard here alongside they're playing constant fucking balls up here I personally think in that midfield with Gerrard you want John Stones he can come and pivot as a little central you know number little six we're not deciding the defence we've done the defence the defence is locked mate we've only picked the same defence what happened to John Stones we've got company oh fuck I personally think this is my two pence tell me what you think guys.
1:51:37If we've got Gerrard and KDB locked, who I think are similar profiles, powerful drivers with the ball. We need some. Want Phil forward? I put forward David Silva. I knew that was coming. Really? Yes. Where's the balance at midfield there? Just explain. What about a little Bernardo? We haven't. Just explain. We've got Aguero Harland. You've mostly just started whistling. He was like on Explained it to the dogs watching What about a little Bernardo Silva? Harlan Suarez Aguero Or whatever the order Yeah yeah they can do what they want And then you've got De Bruyne, Gerrard, David Silva In a midfield three Yeah Don't we need a big person To like sweep up a little bit there?
1:52:26Gerrard can do that Gerrard can sit in the six Oh we're not No you need to get some You need to push him up man We need to get some fucking goals Are we giving him the fucking Declan Rice treatment At the Euros all over again? Oh they need you one in? I think I'll go Yaya I don't like him oh yeah Yaya Toure is he going to sit in or Rodri no why I'm not having Rodri over Yaya Toure or David Silva I've told you what you do what you do you take company out you put John Stones in John Stones can come and fill in in this gap that you're wanting I don't mind that then you can have David Silva who's doing that and you get the best of both worlds let's do that told you right company's out Stones is in boom and Stones are going to fucking insert himself and then we filled we're going to go we can have Yaya there
1:53:07Call me crazy Call me crazy I'd go Yaya KDB David Silva No Gerrard Oh my god People are going to Fucking hate him I like winners in my team If you wanted to keep company You could Stop we've already decided that If you could put Trent on On the right back And he could fill in Central and field Because he's one of the best Centimids in the Premier League He's ever seen That's true So you're not going to have Gerrard in Probably because of the reason He hasn't won a champion I don't know how we're not having Gerrard in. I'm saying that's what I... We've already agreed Gerrard though. Gerrard in first.
1:53:41Gerrard in... No, he's not. Adam McFielders, he was. Dubroider. Oh, second name. Either way, we're both names. So we got the team then. They both have names. So we got the team. No, we haven't. We have. We have David Silva. Let's go for the back. David Silva. David Silva's in. We've got Alisson. We've got Alisson Storne's filling in here. So you have a diamond, do you? No, you are, you are. Nah. Wait, so the combined... The agreed pitch side combined 11 is... Alisson, Walker, Van Dijk, Stones, Robertson, Gerard, De Bruyne, David Silva, Aguero, Suarez, Haaland. Yeah! What a team, mate! Polarova was so cool.
1:54:22Now, I would say that team wins the lot, but we've got Slippy G in there, so probably not. Yeah. Am I right? Am I right? And the manager is, of course, Rafa Benitez.
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