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29:23The last four games they've had like... They drew away to Palace and lost against Arsenal, is it? They haven't lost at home since like October, have they? Sorry, not results basis, but in terms of shots from targets. stuff. Oh, fuck off, Reeves. You should apologise. Okay, all right, Reeves, let's go with it, yeah? They beat Spurs 2-1 in the FA Cup. I read something on Reddit this morning. Drew away at Palace 0-0, then they beat Forest 3-1, and then they obviously lost to Arsenal 4-1 and got back to it. You're going to have to say Beat Chelsea 2-1, beat Villa 2-1, beat West Ham 3-2. They beat Villa 2-1.

29:56They beat United 2-1, beat West Ham 3-2, beat Basel 2-1, beat Arsenal 2-1, beat Brighton 4-3. You're going to have to apologise. You're going to have to apologise. They scored minimum two goals a game. I don't know what I've read there. You're going to have to apologize. Yeah, Villa have been on a really bad run, guys. They were poor yesterday. I think they took that for granted yesterday, Villa. Well, Emery's interview afterwards was fucking... It's his best one since Marco Bizzot. He was being really weird. And then at the end, she asked him a question and he just stared at her and just went...

30:26And then she was like, thank you, Emery, and just walked off. It was being so weird. I'll tell you who's bad. Not like bad. I mean, like, one of the worst players I've ever seen. That fucking Guesshand. Oh, he's got Big Brother McGill on him. Oh, my God. He's who. Meet Morgan Jones. Morgan is about to step into a world unknown to most thanks to Progressive's renter's insurance, a place of fresh linens and turndown service. You see, Morgan temporarily vacated her apartment and has gone to a hotel because a pipe burst in her apartment, a pipe that made her sense of reality and apartment ceiling all come crashing down.

31:03Luckily Morgan checked into Progressive's protection zone Get a quote at progressive.com Progressive casualty insurance company affiliates and third party insurers Why don't you like about him? He poo I seen him poo I know he poo Where is finger? I couldn't believe his lack of intent He's just strolling around the pitch The Villa fans on Twitter weren't happy with him They weren't happy at all, I'll tell you that for free Angry man I thought Rogers just weren't he was poor in front of goal they were just like they were lacking Mattson was good they just had an off game Martinez was shocking conceding to Barry should be a points deduction I just want to put that out there fuck me how Torres was shocking like they had a really bad game yesterday they fucked it though because like News dropped points City dropped points they could be in a title race Arsenal have yet again had a poor result and not been gained an advantage we gained more points we dropped points and gained more points than the other team.

32:04Years of wonderly, you're like, it's fucking all right. Do you know what, let's move on to Arsenal because I don't want to be greedy. It would have been great to get three points. It would have been great and even extend. But the facts are, we got a point away at Forest and we extended again. Is it all right? Is it fine? Yeah, it's not a bad result. Do you know what though? I think it was more of a performance. It was a bit lacklustre. It was. We weren't amazing, but you know what? That happens. It happens. It's like your argument with the Newcastle and the Wolves game. they were there for the team but is there an argument I thought Forrest had moments where you looked no I know I know I'm just saying objectively the bottom four got results against big teams this week like every none of them lost and they all had hard games that's good for the Premier League as a whole well it's also shit for watching like because they just sit back and make things it's so fucking impossible to do anything should we talk about this I saw an interesting debate on Twitter yesterday about this someone saying it's the worst Premier League ever I saw this compared to the last season as well.

33:00You know how like, oh, it's Arsenal's league, they're, and like Liverpool, no, they were like, it's Arsenal's league, the standard league's been really poor, I need a Liverpool fan saying this, but actually, this time last season, Liverpool were 51 points, Arsenal were 50, and there's the same gap. Yeah. My argument actually is the opposite. I think it's one of the best overall standards ever, and that's why teams cancel each other out. Yeah, I agree. I feel like every team, pretty much, can set up to sit in, defend well, and maybe hit teams either on the counter or with long balls in or set pieces.

33:32And I feel like it's harder to score against teams. I agree. We've seen that with those results. Even the shittest teams in the league, Wolves, Burnley, West Ham, have gone... Two of them have gone away from home to what you think, a hard ground this weekend and picked up results. Wolves have picked up a result against Newcastle, made it hard to beat. But I do agree, I think the top, top, top of the table isn't the best standard between. Where's the... Over there in Arsenal. Where do you think the changes come from? Because obviously last season we were saying there's such a discrepancy between promoted teams and everyone else in the league.

34:06Whereas this year, the precedent has been set by teams like Sun. But I think you look at certain teams last year and they tried to play like they played in the championship or they tried to play this fluid football. If you do that in the Premier League as a newly promoted team, you're going to get fucked up. Sam Allardyce has been saying this. Whereas now, teams are sort of respecting the league a little bit more. And they say, if we are going to survive, we can't be playing this. And also utilising the chances that they can dominate from, where it's like set pieces, throw-ins, and utilising those opportunities, where Arsenal's a blueprint out there.

34:36Everyone's just copying off. I know Liverpool haven't been their best, but they're still a very good team, very good players. But the fact that they've drawn against Leeds, they've just drawn against Burnley, like all these promoted teams, and the teams in relegation zone at the moment, who think, even Wolves, they're going to beat the Dolby record, they're the worst team ever, Burnley are crap. They still sum out, especially since January, they've turned it around they're actually they're fighting for they're actually fighting for it I think what it is is the team especially the two teams you mentioned coming up are focused on and I think a lot of the teams do this in the bottom half like your Brentfords and that they focus on doing the basics really well they're not trying to overcomplicate it let's just be solid sit in and then we can Brentford are going to get goals from long frozen corners aren't they Leeds are going to be fast and hit you on the break and get a lot of it is set pieces yeah is that how you do it As much as I think it's the best quality in terms of like cancelling each other out, it does make it for a bad one.

35:31It's not a pretty to watch. Newcastle's corner thing now as well, especially, don't I mean? They basically on shoot from every corner. Everyone does though. But by the way, it's fucking shit. We should score like seven from those. We have fucking like 11 players that were six foot nine and we don't score from these fucking scrambles in the box. What, going back to the... Pisses me off. Going back to the Forest Arsenal result. Chelsea do as well. They shoot from corner now. Well, I in a post as well. How bad was that call for the penalty? Did you see it? How is that not a penalty? Wait, is this...

36:02Did you see the Instagram post about it? His Instagram post is fucking... Wait, what have you seen? Eddie Guerrero. Even Aina is mocking it. Do you know what really annoyed me about that? Someone said, because I tweeted going, it's just a penalty, and he's literally controlled the ball with his arm. He's kept it in with his arm. Intentionally, by the way. Natural position. And someone went, And someone went, oh, yeah, but the rule is it hit his chest first. Okay, so next time I play football, I'm going to chest it, punch it away. Is that allowed? It's ridiculous. It's like, what the fuck? No, actually, legally, it probably is.

36:36What the fuck are we doing with handballs? He's kept it in. How is that not handball? I don't get it. If it touches your hand, it should be handball. Can we stop all this stupidity? No, no, that's ridiculous. But then that's a line in the sand. No, that's a line in the sand. No, that'd be like fucking eight penalties again. But then we're putting up to human error then. and it's like Lewis so then players will go in the box and just kick it at players hands do this no even if you hit that it would be a pain but then otherwise we're always going to be in this area where there's some fucking no Lewis when you control the ball in the box with your arm I think it's a penalty we always talk about the common sense rule have you seen this I saw a tweet went viral about the common sense rule I said it's finally catching up I just don't understand what's made them go no it's not a penalty but if you're in VAR oh, you're looking at it and be like...

37:25The one in the West Ham Spurs game, I completely agree, isn't a penalty because the ball just comes over. I can't remember the defender. It was against Gallagher on it and he's running and it just hits the tip of his finger. He literally cannot do anything about that. Ola Aena has stopped it going out for a corner by he actually moved his arm towards the ball, kept it in and then cleared the ball. And then he's mocked it online. And then brugged about it on Instagram openly just admitting to it. Like, lad, come on. I'll be fuming about it to me. I think what it was, Anderson was behind him, wasn't it?

37:55I think he thought that was an Arsenal player. Le Real? No, Ainer. Oh, Ainer. So, yeah, yeah. And he's tried to sneakily try and like, I don't think he fully means to control it with his arm, but he's definitely like, in the moment, yeah. Point blank, he's kept it in his arm. Yeah, it's a penalty. It's a penalty. You have to hold that. Moving on to just an absolute garbage football club, top of the hot spot. Called it 2-1. Also, I swear Wilson got released two weeks ago. Can we talk about it? West Ham. I don't know. I don't know what's going on this club. He's literally the best striker that they have.

38:25He got released too easy. It must be to do with the fact that Full Krug went to Milan. No, but they've just signed two strikers as well. And they're looking at getting them off to Celtic. They're looking at getting them off to Celtic and to Saudi. They're the same player for sure. Yeah, one no bit. He is their best striker. You don't know that? You don't know anything about the strikers they've signed? I will say that. I would bank on him being the first choice because of being Premier League proven. But he's not. They've just paid 30 million for one striker and then God knows amateur on another one.

38:51This is my point. I'm like, you have a Premier League proven striker who is currently fit. That has always been his problem. He's going to score a goal. Castellanos actually looks all right. It's not even necessarily about starting. It's not even necessarily about starting. I'm saying keep him at your club. I don't know why. He came on and scored. No, but I'm like, the one about the Saudi links and the Celtic and stuff. Like they should be hands down keeping Wilson, but they've just spent a lot of money on two strikers. They probably want to get him off the wage bill. I think it's an interesting decision to make when you're fighting relegation.

39:19you have a Premier League proven goal scorer sometimes business comes in talking about business also his fitness thing is an issue he's been fit with them he's been fit with them if they give him he's fit enough to come on for 15 minutes a game it's not difficult I would like an apology from all three of you please about Thomas Frank I said he should go I never said anything about Frank anyways I told you all I told you all I agreed with you no no you didn't not from the get go I thought about this and I understand I went hard on the pro Thomas Frank camp but I'm going to double down can you okay then I don't want to make a bet I know I know this is like a bit you're doing but can I please hear your reasons for why please oh I'm glad you asked well my theory is it physically couldn't get worse it can it must get better it literally can they could get ready can you get up Spurs his next fixtures please Spurs if West Ham go on a little bit of a run right Spurs are genuinely I compare Spurs Burnley away in the Premier League I compare Spurs to Albion wait Tom seriously Burnley away it's up there hello it's up there City at home United away Newcastle at home Arsenal away Fulham away Arsenal home Arsenal home Palace at home Liverpool you've got guaranteed result at Newcastle so there you go no it's at home it's not guaranteed result I'm not going to lie they said they're going to keep moving for this Dortmund game I think they're just lining up Alonso or someone surely get Alonso in get Frank Al he's fucking shit Are you arguing that Spurs are going to take points off you when a second ago you said that was the only game that Newcastle would win in the near future?

40:55Do you expect me to be consistent? That's the same match, by the way. Sorry, do you want me to be consistent? It depends on... Have you seen on Clarkson's far ways? There's been 10 minutes and you flip. There is genuinely every chance. They could get jugged into this. Yeah, back-to-back seasons at 17th. If... Maybe I just did a good job. They could get... Imagine they get relegated. I'm not even joking. Nah, come on, man. They would never let it get that bad. I think the gap's too big to get relegated. But they could go 17th again. It depends if Frank gets sacked. If they get a competent manager in for that level of club, then they'll be all right.

41:22Yeah, I've seen Xavi Alonso. I think Spurs are very similar to Albion at the minute. Shit. Well, no, just in terms of two clubs that should be way too good to go down are actually getting dragged into a relegation battle. We've got rid of our fucking PET teacher now, but they've got a fucking stupid PET. He's not even a PET teacher. He's more like an MFL teacher who's covering. What's MFL? It's MFL. Modern foreign languages. Oh, mate. How do you know the lingo for kids that go to school? We called it MFL. MFL? We called it MFL. I have never heard that in my old time. That's the mid-East Fuddy League.

41:54But didn't you just learn French? No, because some people did German in that. They put me on German, then French. Just call it language. I said French. Yeah, that'll be French or German. That's what was on our thing. Anyway, are you going to admit I was right about Frank and you were wrong? Just say it. He's just doubled down. Just say it. I doubled down. He's doubled down. Tom, I went all in. I dug my heels in. So why do you think should be given do you know when you said he needs more time and I said no he doesn't because he's not good enough are you seeing some positive hey well number one score the goal okay number two against the worst team in the league at the minute he scored a goal at the minute West Ham are the worst team in the league yeah definitely are also people come back from injuries they need time to gel who Xavi Simmons who's been playing for weeks yeah it's a hard final calendar fight I'll give you that I'm not going to lie I'm surprised that they haven't sacked him I can't I have no idea why that have any hallways like yeah have the Dortmund give I'm sure he was in the camp of give Frank more time but I am for one shocked that I thought he chose something he's still been offered longer time after losing to the worst team in the league a big derby huge London derby the way they lost it and the thing with him he's right he's not even showing any signs of like even with Mason with us you'd be like at the Leicester game you're like they're bad well Although, like, you and him, I'm like, they're shit to watch.

43:16They don't create any chances. Have you heard the stat that before this weekend, I don't know if it still is, Morgan Rodgers had more through balls at the Spurs stadium than Spurs have the whole season? Do you know what it is as well? Really? If you're a player in that dressing room, he doesn't strike me as a leader and someone you're really buying into at this point, and he's going to lead you forward. Do you know what I mean? You'd be looking at him like, I'm waiting for you to go at this point. He's not ready. It doesn't strike me as a guy who's going to get you fired up. It feels like if he's talking to you on the pitch, you're like, oh, leave me alone.

43:50And also, he come out after the game being like, yeah, basically saying we're playing well, but we're just not getting the results. What the fuck is he watching? Because they're not playing well. Thomas Frank thinks they're playing well. Yes. He was always just being a bit under. Sometimes you don't get the results, and I know that's important, but he says behind the scenes, we're doing everything right. No, you're not. They're not. You're shit. Yeah, they are. You just spam crosses From Poro all game To fucking Kolo Mouane Who's dog shit Yeah And tell Fucking Matty's tell Tell Moving across London Moving across London To the West London derby Fucking London Actually a massive result For Chelsea that Chelsea were so lucky though I agree Why is Scharder not shooting on that I think he's That's Brentford battered Yeah they did Sanchez played well I find it Yeah yeah You know how I've seen your talks No Yeah I just find it a bit jarring I know that's a bit rich coming from me I was just everyone was just everyone was on but he speaks he's a bit of an odd one isn't he I think he begs it we have a new do you know do you know what I'm saying he wants the he tries to sound more smart than he is yes I think that's what it is look I think did you see him in the way when he split up the word manager or something and someone goes to eat it going don't teach him the word therapist Yeah, nice.

45:12That took a while. Is it true about the Lego? Or is that just bullshit? Isn't that relate to the in-betweeners? No, apparently he had all the team playing Lego together because apparently it's a good way for them to get creative. No, it's because they're all really young, aren't they? Is that thing about washing your hands true as well? Or is that bollocks? No, because there was a virus going around. He gave a speech to other people saying you should wash your hands because everyone's getting ill. I don't mind having a character in the league. We lost Amrum, so we get him. He's got a good result against Brentford.

45:42They were lucky, though. They didn't play great, but it's still a good result. And they were all right against Arsenal as well, I thought. Look, they're only two points off fourth. Considering all the players they had. And in fairness, if you break up manager and man age... Yeah, you know what? The Cole Palmer thing... I don't know what that means, but... The Cole Palmer thing is interesting because he didn't do his... No, he didn't. He just... But then he also, after the game, he just looked a bit like... He's not fit, is he? He looked away from the team, though. He's not fair at all. He had rumours he might leave at the end of the season.

46:12I feel like people can look into that too much. Yeah. It doesn't look... Yeah. Where would he go, though? Maybe he's upset. Man, you know, like I said, he ain't going to go Arsenal. I think... Not the edge of the first as well. Yeah, I think, look, bottom line is they won. I think they were very lucky, but I don't know. I'm not convinced about him. Man, edge? No, Rosinia. I've seen clips of him at Hull. I've seen clips of him at Hull as well, and he was like going up to players and he was like questioning them about what they've learned and stuff and it really feels like a school teacher a little bit it's like mate I'm 25 yeah and then when he answered he's like mad that innit I'll give him 80 and it's like it reminds me of Shelby was on a podcast the other day he was on about when Benitez was at Newcastle and apparently if they saw him in a corridor they'd all run back in the gym because if you got caught by him he wouldn't let you go and you'd start talking but I feel like he has something like that about him where it's like you see him in the hallway he's like oh fuck's sake You can imagine doing a team talking.

47:07People are looking at each other trying not to laugh. But you've got to give him benefit of doubt. He's got to win. You've got to give him credit. I mean, if he's getting results, I love a good character of a manager. Brentford are a fucking good team this season as well. That is true. Charlotte should have shot. No, 100%. I totally agree with that. I don't understand why he's tried to pass that. He was unlucky with the one-on-one though. It was a great save for Sanchez. Liverpool-Burnley. Liverpool dropping points again against the right side. They're crap, aren't they? They're crap. It's amazing.

47:41It's Barnsley. How good is Ekotiko for the first goal, though? Yeah. Oh. Four. So Boswell, I'm rattling the crossbar. I will say, do you know who has looked good recently? Yeah, that would have been insane. Floridan. Only against the shit teams, though? Yeah, he comes to life when he gets space and he's not getting pressed, is he? He's literally only done it against Wolves and Burnley and who else did he play? I think that helps with him as a footballer, though, just having a bit of confidence every now and again to build him up for the bigger teams. True. If you're a Liverpool fan, you'd be like, he's one of the best tens in the world.

48:09You are babying him a bit. I know, he's a£100 million player. And the rest? And then£55 million player. £344 million. All these dollars. It was half the amount Ezra cost. Yeah, he should be at this standard every game. Yeah, I know. Not just teams. And also, that standard wasn't that great. It is Burnley. At minimum. He didn't play that well. They're bad, man. Liverpool have... How much money in the bank has Slott got? Like, I know he won the league. so like I'm not saying he's in danger now but like how long could it go on for? Were there actually booze full time? That's bad for Liverpool to do that That's what I mean it wears out early doesn't it?

48:45No because the cop usually always back them especially managers who've won That should have been fine That's a bad sign They're in danger of if they continue bad form like this they're not guaranteed Champions League this year Not at all Man United improving Newcastle's still shit but there's teams below us as well Oh my god They have drawn their last four Premier League games. Last draw. So they're still undefeated. Get the title up, Will. They last lost the football match in November the 26th. So they are undefeated, but the draws are not good. They are not good. It's their fourth draw in a row.

49:16But look, United one point behind. Chelsea two points behind. Newcastle three points behind. Brentford aren't far. You are right though, Tom. Liverpool don't turn and manage us quickly. Yeah, it takes a while. Once the Liverpool fans go, that's bad. One who's won the league as well. They got Stalin to come back. If he comes back. We've sort of been forgotten. How long have Egypt been out? No, they played the third place. Oh, right. And also, Burnley could have won it in the end. I like Burnley. I like Scott Parker. Did you see that stat? Liverpool failed to win at home against all three of the promoted sides.

49:54Jesus. And I'm pretty sure they're the first Premier League champions to not do that as well. Did they not get a result of Wolves? They drew. Really? Fucking hell. I can't remember. Rules aren't a promoted team. You know with the Salah... I was thinking about relegation. With Salah coming back, with Salah coming back... They were not a relegated team, isn't they? Do you think that's going to... No, I'll get in relegation, but my brain was confused. Do you think the Salah return will disrupt it? I don't think he'll come back. I think he'll be going. Do you think he'll go? I think so. Surely he ain't staying after what happened.

50:22Yeah. What happens now? The way that he was addressing the crowd after the Brighton game seemed that that was kind of a good boy. Oh, he confirmed his return? what the fuck wow I mean I suppose that's preemptive then just in case do you know what I mean like what happened if he comes back and gets like I really don't know has he been playing well at AFCON I think he did have a good tournament it's not like they've improved without him Egypt had a good tournament as well well they would have been the favourites wouldn't they no Morocco would have been the favourites or Senegal probably were actually they've got a good team I'm nation Morocco yeah probably maybe Leeds big result against Fulham could argue they're an unbelievable run right now three points I would say they're close to it now I think they're well on the way I think they're going beyond unbelievable I think they're now insanity it's an insanity run draw draw yeah they've only lost once and that was against Newcastle since November I'm never going to lie since November they've lost one football match and they were very unlucky in that Newcastle game I'm not going to lie do you know who is looking good like I know he's got a few goals but he played really well yesterday or Saturday it was was Aronson again Aronson's been classy he's been he's been brilliant he's been brilliant hasn't he he was unreal he's clinical yeah he's just a fucking handful but he's got yeah he's he's got what I like you know what I like when people can beat him man he's got that bit of pace and also he'll have a shot he's not going to wait on a plate he'll just shoot he's developed a lot since he was last in the Premier League yeah he was signed under Jesse Mars wasn't he yeah he was was he yeah and the Leeds fans didn't like him he left on loan he didn't do that well and he's kind of turned things around he's going to be playing at the World Cup next year isn't he I just think that they're really solid at the back as well what's the goalie called Perry that's it I was going to need to call him Rudy Pascal Struth he's been fucking class I mean they should sell him but I can't believe he said that get a load of money for him mate and also Leeds' depth he's a lot better than people think or give him credit for like that Nemecha coming off the bench Tanaka was started on the bench yesterday Tanaka was their best player last year their best, best player Nonto as well that's what I mean they're bringing an Italian international off the bench I think Leeds are really, really decent Perry didn't even start a goal yesterday Darlow started was it?

52:41on Saturday I didn't know oh yeah what the Darlow yeah I wonder why Perry didn't play was he injured after the Man United game I actually have no clue or did he get injured against Derby don't know another promoted team Sunderland FC being Leggi Palace are going to struggle this year Glasner was ready to go there I don't think after what you see of Amarin and Enzo I'd be surprised if Glasner's there next weekend no he's had clear the air talks they decided not to sack him and he had clear the air talks with them apparently like yesterday what he said was mental he has a point no by the way can I just say something right he doesn't have a point he could wait till the day after and he could have waited to come out and say I'm leaving yeah but he did wait for like six months he's come out the day before the game and said I'm leaving at the end of the season you know then that's disruptive he's already communicated that to the players he said didn't he and everyone he's just said I can't remember the timeline on it but he already made that decision he said selling gay a day before a game he's disruptive apparently he did with the higher ups but he come out and made it public the day before a game he's leaving so he's disrupting it as well I don't know I don't know if that was already communicated to the players or not.

53:57Lewis, it all came out the same day about Glasner and Gaye. I know you're not understanding what I'm saying. He knew he was leaving from the start of the season. He just didn't make it public. I'm saying I know the high-ups of the club. He said the high-ups the club knew. I don't know if the players were already... I'm not even on about that. I'm just on about it being made public a day before a game. The players know that... Also, there's one... One is more disruptive than the other. I'm not disagreeing that's disruptive. But the captain leaving the day before a game is much more disruptive than that.

54:23They knew Gaye was going to leave. He also mentioned in the interview he also mentioned about Eze leaving as well and he was like I've lost my two best players not been back but he has been back Brennan Johnson yeah they've spent the money on Brennan Johnson Pino and other he has been back I'd argue the reason he's leaving essentially he's he reached a peak yeah but he was poor he reached a peak with Palace last season and like this season they'll let him off but like he can't stay beyond this because it's his worth in football terms it's going to go yeah that's why he has to go because he's never going to exceed that peak again so now he has to get out whilst he can I don't understand what more he expects okay they've lost their two best players right but unfortunately that's the food chain that we spoke about loads of times the big boys come in for your players they're going to go they've then gone and broke their transfer record on Brennan Johnson to try and help him they signed that Pino for what how much was Pino he wasn't cheap was he that Pino Jeremy I feel like he wasn't cheap who's about 26 million yeah like okay don't get me wrong they're not as good as the players they've lost but they're trying I don't know what what more I feel the pain it's a shit it's a real shit position to be in when you are that team who has to who has to let the players go we were in that position for years they broke their record on Johnson yeah I just think yeah it's horrible and it's shit and it must be frustrating but unfortunately that's the way of the world in football absolutely so fucking stop crying about I didn't do your job.

55:53How about that? And he's at the helm of the club in terms of how players respond and act as well. And he's the figurehead of all that. He's Crystal Palace's most successful manager ever. Yeah. I agree. He's their best ever manager. I agree, but that still doesn't detract from the fact that that's a really bad thing for a manager to do. Just lost his head. And also, apparently, Gahey was, the reason Gahey didn't leave in the summer is because Glasner asked him, asked for an ultimatum to the board. So they didn't let him go. So he's got his wish, but they've now got 20 million for him instead of nothing in the summer yeah that's business we're talking about business that is one of the most sort of painful I know we're saying this is the way the football works but when you're in like as a Palace fan at least you've had the FA Cup but it's such a shit position when you have these players you love and they're unbelievable and they go and then it's constant like downgrades essentially like it's an awful cycle it's like what we were like under Ashley it's brutal it's life it's a little bit different I don't feel sorry for them because they've fucking won an FA Cup.

56:53You've had fun. You're in the Europa Cup. You're having fun. Obviously, speaking of Gehi, it's not officially confirmed. It is. 20 mil. It's done. It's done. But they've not announced it. You're done. But it's not officially. Yeah, they haven't taken the pics of him in the top yet, have they? That's all. He literally, people tracked his flight yesterday. He got a private jet, didn't he? And got off in Manchester. From London to Manchester? Yeah, I know. Not going to be asked to do that. How many trees did they plant? I don't know. I don't like it. Arthur must have done it. Arthur must have planted the trees for them.

57:23That's 28. Semenya to Seat was 65. Brendan Johnson to Palace 35. Gallagher to Spurs. Which is the best signing so far? It's got to be Semenya, isn't it? Yeah. Or is it a Gallagher? 20 million for Mark Gahey. You're going to get at least a second to seven million. Can I ask you a question? I like Gallagher for Spurs, though. I feel like that's a good one. It's yesterday. Would you do anything about the windows in terms of would you prefer just the summer window? Would you... Are you happy with the January 1st or would you prefer there are no windows and you can just buy players anytime? I like a bit in between what is it?

57:56Is it the French rule where they have like the wild card or something I read about where it's like I don't know what league it is but someone said it's like basically each team has one sign and they can make outside of the window so you're not basically hamstrung by the windows. But is that not dictated by other windows around the world as well? No, not necessarily. Like they could sell, like they might not want to sell but they might take the money and like, you know what I mean? Yeah. I think I think it shouldn't be at any time but I think a mid-season transfer window is actually critical because you never know what injuries and stuff that's going to pop up.

58:24Especially for the smaller teams. I think if you asked every manager in the country I think most would get rid of the January transfer window. The old hair really. Really? And the risk of players leaving? It derails teams and it fucks teams up when like prices. Are you saying it's detrimental more than it is positive for most of the time? I think it's more I think it helps the bigger teams more. I was going to say I think you'd see the manager of the bigger side saying keep it but then the smaller teams who lose their best players who have done really well this season but then also there has been times where like Albin we've made good signings in January but you can still be after loan I think the one thing I'd change is I'd stop the transfer window in the summer stops before the season yeah I agree with that one the issue around with January is it's always inflated prices and sometimes you're forced to move for a player who wasn't necessarily wasn't necessarily like a long term like target so like you're basically spending money on a player you don't really want for the long term but you have to get him now because of injuries whatever.

59:21That's a season context though isn't it? Yeah. But I will say to argue that point I don't think Semenyo is an inflated price Gehi's obviously not. I think Gallagher and Johnson probably worth about 30 million each at the moment. I know but it can be if you're a team these are teams who didn't need to like I guess you could say Palace did but like Spurs needed a midfielder. But like cities I'm speaking as a Newcastle fan if we went we're having a defensive crisis if we go for a defender now they know we need one the price is going to be a bit inflated it might not be the one who's available who we want it's like it's not ideal get over it but I think that's just the general market trading yeah but prices are always higher than our pre-season because it's mid-season so teams are fucked on if they lose their players but you do see teams like right now at Arsenal I think our window is so good and I scored I don't want a transfer yeah you don't need and also you don't need anyone no exactly but the fun it's completely team dependent in terms of injuries and what not as well though isn't it it's fun having signings yeah But anyway, speaking of which, we're going to be doing our top 10 best Premier League signings ever.

1:00:18Oh, no. No, we're not. It's worse. No, we're not. We're doing January. What did I say? Top 10 worst. Best ever. I've done Europe. What? It's the top 10 worst Premier League. Top 10 best. You are joking. Are you serious? You can't read the words. Are you actually all right? Top 10 best January signings ever. The one thing people get annoyed about is when you don't read the list. I thought it was worst. That's a stinker. Are you serious? You only got a really two prep bit. It says top 10 best Premier League in January 5th and December. We had two things to pray. Lewis, are you serious? You get paid an extortionate amount of money to read one page.

1:00:56There's people watching this and listening to this who are on minimum wage who care about this show. I have had the least mistakes on prep this season. How did you read it though? Well, clearly worst. I don't know how. But it says best. That's quite impressive that you've done that. Right, the chimp is ready I am I'm ready Do a chimp noise Woo! Have you not seen the ones where they're like there? No, sure Woo! They're monkeys Right, I'm going to start Because I can Do you want me to start? No You're going to go last Because I'm in control I just told you You're going last We're going to go in this order Cool, man Because then I can just say you've copied us Right, in 10th I have gone for Bruno G Oh Very good Interesting I wondered if people Remember that Because it's recent I think Bruno G He's probably been Your best player this season He's kind of a cult hero As well hasn't he Won us our first trophy Do you know the thing About him though That I didn't really notice Until the last few games He's so slow Bruno G Yeah He does well For being not the quickest He looks like he treads in water When he runs But it's It's weird as well Because it looks like Sometimes it doesn't look like He kicks the ball right But obviously like He can He had a good chance In the last minute as well I thought, Bruno this season, I would have had so much money on him scoring that because he's always showing up.

1:02:18I get really confused with Bruno. What is his best position? He sent him in box to box. He's very technical. I don't like him in the holding role because it restricts him because he's so good. That's where it's really good. He's really good when he gets into the box. In ninth, I've gone Gary Cahill for Chelsea. Eighth, Seamus Coleman. In eighth? Oh, that's low, by the way Steve Ratnall just because come on the longevity and the price best ever captain 60k best ever captain in Premier League history 60k true that's terrible that 7th Coutinho yep 6th Bruno Fernandes In sixth? Just because the ones above him have all won I think it's quite low.

1:03:01I think the ones above, for their price and what they achieved, are better. Fifth, Evra. Yep. Fourth, Ivanovic. Ooh, you got players. I didn't think that. Wow, okay. I didn't put Evra in either. Really? Yeah. He was cheap. No, I know he was. Like seven million, six million I think it was. Fourth, third, Suarez. Fourth? Third. Third. Third. Yeah. Second, Vidic. Yep. Oh, I'm not Vidic. Third, Van Dijk. The best centre-half in Premier League history. Okay. 75 million quid. That's what I mean. He brought them in, completely changed them, finally made them a winning team. A lot of money, though. And he's worth double that.

1:03:38Yeah. But what I love about a signing, Tom, and I'll tell you this really, I love it when it's cheap. But he's come in for the prize. He's been the best centre-half I've ever seen in the Premier League. He's won two Premier Leagues, every trophy, a Champions League. He was a lot of money. Finally made Liverpool a winning team. He is the best in the Premier League. A lot of money. So? it's not your money you can can't be right we're moving around yeah you go cool intense I've got Patrice Everett to Manchester United wow you've won a lot yeah but I mean he's one of the best left back in history yeah that's a howl of that he's in the list I didn't put it on that list ninth Gary Cahill to Chelsea eighth Aubameyang Arsenal yeah it was like 55 million achieve nothing 55 million didn't win at he's got trophies at Arsenal he's our sixth time Premier League goalscorer what's wrong with that why Bami ends above Evera then if you like Evera come in he's a good sign but he's 55 million on personal preference fair enough so because he played for Arsenal yeah that's what personal preference means yeah but that you're supposed to be objective here yeah we don't do that on this show objectively you read it wrong I don't believe so I've got a correct list here seventh Coutinho mainly just like profit factors and all that stuff.

1:04:57I mean... I can't believe you got a Coutinho. Sixth, Seamus Coleman. I think what the Coutinho one is, they bought him for... I'll write it down. Yeah, but we're not accountants. We've got to look at what they did as a signing. It does make a difference on the best signing. Yeah. Best... Like, its ability to... Coutinho for eight and a half million and sold him for 120 million. Yeah, it was unbelievable business, but he didn't win anything. It was great signing. It was a great fucking good signing. It's a fantastic signing. I mean, it did help with Claude. He paved the way for people like Van Dijk to come.

1:05:27Yeah, that is true. We can't play that card. He definitely can't. Five years later. Yeah, yeah. He got Liverpool into a position where they can attract the Van Dijks. I agree, mate. Oh, yeah. Small Liverpool needed help attracting players. Well, they had fucking Carroll and Lambert going on at one point. It wasn't looking good, bruv. Yeah, but they did pay a lot of money for Andy Carroll anyway. Andy Carroll was 50 million, wasn't he? No, 35. But it was a lot at the time. I thought Torres was 50 and Andy was 35. Is that right? Yeah, it is. Because I did my worst signings list. tonight. Okay. Fifth, Bruno Fernandes.

1:05:56Fourth, Luis Suarez to Liverpool. Third on the basis that he's a five-time Premier League winner with the club, Andy Cole. Yeah. Manchester United. Second, Virgil van Dijk, mainly because of just the price difference between him and Vidic and then first Vidic. Nine million pounds to 75 minutes, a lot of money given the fact that they've probably achieved similar. I did have Vidic first originally. Why'd you change it? I confused it. Gender. Are you not both missing? like a mega name. I don't know, maybe, we'll find out. Unless I'm... Hold it, hold it, hold it. Please tell me it's the summer. Right.

1:06:32No, it's not. Best Premier League, January signings. We'll wait for that. I'm hoping you bail me out if you have a bigger holler than me. 10th Van Dijk. I agree with everything you said. Oh, God, please. Oh, my God. 10th. You had time to do it as well. It's almost... Back then as well, 75 million. Back then? Mate, there's a lot of good signings going on. Mate, he's... 75-0. He's arguably the best... I know, But he achieved what he should for that money. So it's an unbelievable signing? Yeah. But there's also nine others, right? Go on then. Andy Cole, next to Man United. By the way, based on inflation, that was a similar price.

1:07:03I know I've done this. You're doing it from an accountancy perspective. I do lend buyers to that. He's doing it on the article he just covered from. Andy Cole was a British transfer record. It's also... Andy Cole's a British transfer record. That's a piece of money. It's also, like, for me... And they sold him for peanuts. like Liverpool it's not always down to the player it's about the team and the deal and have they got a coup have they managed to and you worked all that out in what 15 minutes yeah it's common sense it's Dempsey to Fulham fuck off better than Andy Cole and Van Dijk in Dempsey well you said yourself Andy Cole's a British record can I say what did Dempsey do at Fulham that was better than Van Dijk longevity great ability Lewis one of the most underrated players of all time was so good in training what about Berger Van Dijk Lewis obviously for this segment Are we joking?

1:07:51I don't know about you guys For this segment You had to go and Obviously research And look it I looked at so many articles I didn't once see Dempsey Where's that come from? Where's that come from? My brain Are you sure he was signed In January? Yes 1.2 million pound It's a great signing I understand Look 1.5 Look we can go after The best players We've achieved it all But then we're just Going to have a list Of signings for Liverpool and Man United That's a great signing For 1.5 million He was a good signing Is that a better signing than Van Dijk to Liverpool. Yeah, that's an interesting question.

1:08:22Well, I'm doing, I clearly have my bias towards money, which is why we all do that. It's a beautiful thing. To argue that, I see Van Dijk was 75 million. He should be that good. But also, he won them a lot more in prize. So he paid off his prize. Yeah, but I'd also argue for that amount of money, there's way more pressure on you as well. So to still deliver with that prize, how many plays, if you look at the most, the highest transfer fees in Prem history. Most of them failed. Yeah. Most of them. But this is the thing. So like, if we did the list, if you based off like that logic there, you'd have a team, you'd cancel out most teams in the league because most teams can't and won't compete at that top level.

1:09:01Doesn't mean they don't make great signings for their stature. No, we're not signing that. You know what I mean? Well, that's why my bias is more towards that. You support Arsenal. You're going to be more trophy-oriented and all that. I agree, but we're talking about Arsenal. No, but you support a big team. So you value, what you're used to with signing players, can they win us a trophy? I can't like, obviously, he was really, he was really good for Fulham, helped them get to a Europa League final. he was good. That's what I mean, I come from a different stature of club than you, so I value different kinds of signings.

1:09:29Premier League. No, but what Lewis is saying in relativity for what he did for Fulham, got them to Europa League final, got them to a Europa League final, I know, a good Clint Dempsey was, but. Well, it's relative to the club for 1.5 million out of America, randomly. Yeah, oh, look, it was only him and Donovan knocking about. I don't mind it I just wouldn't have had him over Cole and Van Dyke Vidic was 7 million quid he might have Vidic Vidic was below I haven't got Vidic stop looking at his list next I have I've done this the wrong order but he's in 7th but he should be 6th Bruno G to Newcastle I also then have above that Trippier to Newcastle we got a La Liga winner into a relegation bound team and he saved us from relegation then carried us for the next few seasons all for pennies I don't pennies?

1:10:17it was 12 mil it's not pennies it was good it was the start of your to get yeah and what's he on 150 grand he was as much as Bruno was great he was a difference maker what's going on for a genuine impact on the club that they were bought by do you think Trippis had more of an impact than Virgil van Dijk no okay van Dijk cost 75 mil Newcastle signed it's comparative Newcastle were in a relegation zone and they managed to sign a player who's just won the league in Spain. Yeah, because you just had all the Saudi money and like, of course, he saw the vision, didn't he? You're acting like you were fucking blackball and got trippy.

1:10:55But that doesn't take away from being a great signer and he ultimately did people. No, no one's denying that for your signing. But he only kept us up like the free kicks he scored in that season. We needed someone to come in. It was going to do that and like, we managed to buy it. And Liverpool needed someone to come and sort their defence and then won two Premier League titles or Champions League and every other trophy. That's not as bad as him having, if we're on about like personal bias, which was your argument for Bamian, 55 million, and I'd argue Trippi is way better of a signing than that I would agree with that like 12 minutes we were relegation bound no team had ever survived relegation that's totally fair but then in that case you have to just admit that you are being biased well naturally it seeps through but not intentionally not intentionally Bruno Fernandes from Man United Suarez to Liverpool in fourth Coutinho to Liverpool in third did any of you have Suarez in your top ten yeah Coleman to Everton oh sorry when he said we admitted the name.

1:11:45He just wasn't listening. I hope this was January, this one, because no one else said it, did it? Mahrez to Leicester? Yeah, he was in the championship. Yeah, that wasn't in the... Well done, mate.

1:11:55That makes sense. I did that, didn't I? You did that for Vardy. Nice. Still good signing. I don't get... But I don't understand what website... Best Premier League January signing ever. It's a different league. Lewis, I don't get what websites you're looking at to get these players. I use my brain. I don't always... We just saw you not use your brain. You went on your phone. Bruno G, Trippier, and Andy Cole. How do you remember Mahrez was signed in January? I don't know. I don't know how... I can't say I'm bound in this part of my brain. What do you mean you don't know? I just know things sometimes.

1:12:29So you wrote it down and just hoped it was January. I knew Vidić ever. Did you know Mahrez? Theo, that means you miss... No, I don't know that, but you might know that. I knew his Theus was January as well. But Theo, that means your list isn't even from your opinion. It's just whatever you see on a list. No, it's not because you've changed the order. I have a look, but then I'll have a look at the order. Everyone knows that Luis Suarez was a January signing. Yeah. Oh, I didn't know Andy Cole was January. He probably would have been in my list. Well, I don't know what's so confusing. No, I don't know.

1:12:53It's like you didn't get these names from an article. Yeah. Yeah, I thought of them. But he was signed in the championship or whatever. What? He doesn't, you're yours. I see my point or whatever. I think you're really trying to find a hole there. I don't know. It's confusing. Just before we move on. Okay. I want to come back. Did you not have vidage? No. I want to go back to it. Not even that though. But you almost got a weir there. So you think financially, the amount people get sold for, like in terms of profit that is made for the club is more important than success at the club. No. But you put Coutinho seven places.

1:13:29I'm being objective here. Objectively, as a football fan, no. But as a transfer, it is a better transfer. So that's what he's saying? That you value the profit and profit margin more than the success. This is me trying to be objective. Like, because as a fan, I want to win trophies, fuck all that. But if I'm on about like objectively signing for Liverpool, this guy's 75 mil, this guy's 8.5, they sold him for a huge profit. He was successful. He paved the way for these places. That's a better signing. The best defender the league's ever seen. The better signing on paper for January is to get an 8.5 million pound kid in who's then went on to do all this for Liverpool and you sold him for 100 odd.

1:14:04That is objectively a better signing. He didn't do anything compared to Van Dijk. Yeah, but the situation that the team was when he signed to it, They weren't in a position to do what they did with Van Dijk all those years. Who did they sign off the back of Coutinho, mate? What do you want about? They literally lost the league. They bottled the league with Coutinho. Who did they sign off the back of him? They weren't as good as they were. Coutinho? Yeah. Who were the sign-ins? I think Salah. Yeah, Alisson and Van Dijk, I think. No, Alisson and Van Dijk, I think. I can't really remember. So Coutinho might have funded Van Dijk.

1:14:30Yeah. Yeah, but he was also part of the team that bottled the league. Yeah, I know. I put Coutinho higher because his transfer fee funded the sign of the best centre-back in Premier League history. We don't know that. We haven't fact-checked that. Probably saw it, dude. Nah, it was a few years later because everyone used to take the piss out of him for that, didn't they? I think it's... Oh, you're still using the Coutinho money. Also, I just think with clubs of that stature, like when it comes to money, I can see it for like, I don't know, like a Dempsey or Coleman. You got him for 60 grand. You come in...

1:15:02Yeah, but the teams at the top, yeah, they spend loads of money. So surely you just put it down who's been the best. I understand, but I just look at it through a different lens. How much is Bruno Fernandes? I look at it through a different lens, which is good because you've got Bruno ahead of Van Dijk. Why? Less money? Or like 10 mil. It's not even by 7 mil. Yeah, that might have been a stinker. You know like a Brighton, obviously I don't know when Caicedo was sold, probably the summer to Chelsea, but like how much did they buy Caicedo for? Not a lot. Not a lot. I mean, if you're talking like that, that could be...

1:15:33Yeah, but that was a summer one, I think. Yeah, but I'm saying if you bought Caseta for like what 2 million I don't know how much they bought him for and if we did a summer list that's my point I personally haven't done it on profit I've done it on who's been the best sign I'm not on profit I just take into the fact that what is the player that you've got in return of the money and like I value for January to get someone from like and they've done all this this will mean I say he's looking at for big clubs I'm looking at from a different club I've actually tried to use both go on then I'm surprised you didn't say this guy In 10 I got Papasise Signed in January And then he scored 13 and 14 Rest of the season And they did nothing else Yeah He didn't do it But we lived We lived We lived a life He became a bit of a hero What a player Yeah Amazing In 9 I got My man Aubameyang I don't know how Aubameyang's making these lists He was 55 million When he signed for Arsenal It was like It was like You can say something about Bruno It was like the best thing ever But Bruno Fernandes has been more successful at Man United than Bamian's was at Arsenal like tenfold I've got Brendan Flannes in my list I know but I'm saying I just don't I feel like you can say Bamian's a good sign yeah but I feel like there's I don't know if he's in the top 20 I don't know if he's in the top 20 was it yeah he's genuinely not top 20 Bamian who?

1:16:52go on I'd sooner put like Semenyo on Geahy in front of him on this list ever I've got Gary Cahill signed in January 7 million bearing in mind he's played two games for the club I put my book for Bamian you think Mark A he's the best I don't think Bamian breaks top 20 January transfers ever like you've paid a fucking fortune I did my list you're not one to oh I'm sorry sorry sir I mean yeah fuck it I think he goes in there I've got Cahill yep obviously went on to win the Champions League that season he was quite influential in that at the back in seven I've got Andy Cole to Man United seven million quid I know it was British transfer record at the time but it's great so No, I can't.

1:17:34Six. Six. I've got Vidic, seven million quid. I can't, that's so low. Yeah, I know. Two Premier League players a year, one captain in total. In hindsight, bearing in mind... I didn't shrug my shoulders, I just scratched my face. In hindsight, I'd probably, I'd most definitely have him above the guy I've put in fifth, which is Bruno Fernandes. What? Bruno Fernandes, a better signing than Nemanja Vidic. Yeah, in hindsight, probably not. But also, I mean, look, where would United be without Bruno the last six, seven years? Do you know what I mean? You could tell that about Vidic. They might not have the Champions League.

1:18:09At least you had Ferdinand and Evra and Gene Evra with him. Didn't Vidic make like team of the year three times? Yeah, in a row. He won Premier League player of the year. Yeah, it was a phenomenal signing. What could he do? It's only one place difference. Then in fourth, I got Van Dijk, 75. Who the fuck is top three here? Vidic, Van Dijk, you're there. Yeah, in three, I've got Coutinho. I can continue via the viditian van deyck. For 8.5 million quid then sell him 120. Viditian's less than that? Yeah, I know. In hindsight, he didn't sell him for 120 million quid. We're not doing the best sales of all time.

1:18:43We're doing the best signings. He's a businessman. I don't understand why we care. I've used both as a combination. Why we care how much they then got sold for. I've used both as a combination. That does come into a question. I don't think it does of signings. That's your opinion. That's your opinion. Tom, that's your opinion. You can't get your head around that we have different opinions. No, I can. I don't understand why it's relevant. It is relevant to a signing. I agree, but you're way too far into the spectrum. He said he was going to do it balanced. I just don't see... They're quite close to each other.

1:19:12Yeah, in hindsight, maybe it should be higher and I can see your opinion. And actually, the more you've talked about it today, the more I'm coming towards your side. Right now, I feel like I'm in the middle. I'm open to change. In two, I've got Seamus Coleman. £60 ,000. Great deal. Club legend. Great deal. Do you know how much money, 60 granders? Not a lot, yeah. but he's been good. You can't. Barely get you a deposit, that. 10 % deposit on a 600 grand house. I think... I'm sorry. I'm trying to help your argument. You definitely could buy a house for 600. I don't know what world you're living in, buddy.

1:19:43I don't know. And then in number one. Now, in hindsight, maybe it could be a bit lower, but I think if you're a Liverpool fan, you'd probably be quite excited. You got Suarez for£23 million. You had him for three years. Did nothing. Scored fucking loads of goals He was a great player Worldies Won nothing A lot of joy And as soon as a bigger club come in He went For how much? 75 million pounds three years later Do you think for a Liverpool fan So based on your logic Coutinho should be higher Coutinho should be above it Yeah but Suarez was the best strike in the world Coutinho was not the best 10 in the world Do you think that Liverpool fans look back And they prefer the Suarez transfer to Van Dijk I want a bout of Coutinho what are we doing it's just a mess complete mess I didn't think that that segment was going to get a lot of debate he's got nine anyway at least I've got the right players on my list just a few at least mine weren't like up and down they were pretty close he also only he only had no real ranking system he only had like two amazing seasons you balanced it on like success and everything else and like two actually three of the top three are at least less successful than the remaining seven he often has his logic and then he goes against his logic as the list goes on.

1:21:00Objectively, Seamus Coleman is one of the best January signings ever. That's why I put him in two. Yeah, he's the top ten. He's definitely in the top ten. Very quickly, a few notable players that I didn't hear get mentioned. Would you have them in your top ten? Semenya? Olivier Giroud, Arsenal to Chelsea, 2018. No. Wouldn't have him up there? No. Daniel Sturridge, Chelsea at Liverpool? No. No. Edin Dzeko, when he signed for City? Oh, not a bad shot. How much was he? How much was he? 27 million. That was worth the money, though. Yeah, it was. Back then, yeah. I'd have a one with Aubameyang. A couple of technicalities.

1:21:32These two players on loan but signed at the end of the season. I think you deserve a shout-out. Robert Hoof, Leicester, 2015. Yeah, not bad. And Mascherano to Liverpool in 2007. Yeah. So, any of them would you put in your top 10? No. Not to my... Maybe... I thought you didn't have Fabio Ceci. Who was the one I said? I didn't actually think. As a Newcastle buyer. Dzeko? Dzeko, maybe Dzeko, but... Nah, I'm happy about it. He just didn't do much after that, but that six-month spree was amazing. I thought we signed the best drag in the world but you know what going through these signings it shows you how important the January transfer window is well said Theo you know what I mean and let us know in the comments who you think had the best list and who had the worst yep moving on to one of our favourite things we ever do on this show which is create an 11 now we've done an overrated 11 of all time clap them cheeks daddy oh good lord we've done an overrated Premier League 11 of all time but what about a current overrated 11 oh Theo don't you tease me Yeah, man.

1:22:28I think you should start. Oh, I'm ready to start. And do you know what's funny? There's two positions in my team. I've put two names. So whatever I say. I just want to preface this. I've gone quite harsh. Yeah. But you have to be. You have to be so harsh. Don't they? But at least it means... I don't know what it means. There's no positive twist. It is a harsh segment. The players have to be rated in order to be overrated. Yeah. Actually. Go on then. It's hard list. Yeah. It's hard list. And in goal, starting off with the harsh. I don't even think this one is harsh. I got Sanchez in goal for Chelsea.

1:22:58everyone keeps saying he is playing well but he's not I don't think he's rated though at the moment at the start of the season he won and then people have started because they've been getting good clean sheets and he's had a good save he's so prone to is he not virgin on underrated yeah I was just about to say that I don't think he's Chelsea number one in the future I think he's actually played really well this season and people have gone he's playing well but he's shit I feel like it's more on the lens like he's playing well maybe he's not shit I'm still not convinced though I don't think he'll be Chelsea number one next season maybe I don't think so this is so harsh because he's he has been poor Rico Lewis at right back yeah I agree I don't mind that like he was meant to be England's future right back yeah I don't mind I just don't I don't see it I don't see it yeah and then obviously we all knew I was going to have this on Romero oh yeah fair enough fucking shit consistency scored a good header though the weekend yeah he did all for nothing though okay partnered in with Canate Overrated Has been for a while I don't think he's overrated I just think he's having a bad spell Oh Tom You said he was going to win A Ballon d 'Or or something Like come on You did like He says this about everybody You actually did though Left back I got Kerkhez But then I think he is rated Because of Bournemouth still And people are saying He's taken a Kerkhez has been hammered This season Everyone's saying That shit of the signing I feel that's harsh He's been under scrutiny A lot hasn't he Yeah Midfield We've got Justin Cliver I know he's injured at the moment, I think.

1:24:26But I think he's so hit or miss and purple patch. He's so purple patch. And his purple patches aren't long. But that's why he plays for Bournemouth. Yeah, I guess so. I have this argument with people about Albion players all the time. They're like, if only Mikey Johnson had a more consistent output, well, yeah, he wouldn't be playing for fucking us, would he? Yeah, I get that. But I hear, yeah, because I feel like he gets a hat-trick and everyone's like, oh, he's actually sick. And then he won't do anything. Never. You might not agree with this one. Bernardo Silva currently is over because everyone still thinks he's Bernardo Silva and he's been phenomenal he has been phenomenal for Manchester City one of the best midfielders right but he's not the same player and I think you know certain players at club get moved on this is not you know how Salah's pulling a lift is he not part of the leadership team that's the reason why I think he won't be here next season I think City can't get away with him and Roger in midfield there has to be Rodri and Gonzalez how old is he I almost had Rodri he's like 32, 33 now he's getting on he might be even older I did almost have Rodri I know why you feel harsh with that he's been one of the best he's been one of the best and he will still still currently so I hear you currently I've got two names here I don't know who to go for shit because one of them I don't think is actually rated whoever you see you can't fall back on the other one you've got to lock it in well actually I don't the other one I don't think is rated so I won't say is João Gomes at Wolves no he's good you watched him yesterday he was good but you especially you were talking about how mate he's linked with Atletico Madrid yeah he's good against us João Gomes is good mate is he good enough for a Champions League team yeah do you think but also is that not overrated currently he's not a Champions League team he plays for the worst team currently he's at Wolves yeah and where are they oh my god but he's a part of that I know he's one of the better players I'd actually put him an underrated Joe Norris is class that's completely fair to you alright that's harsh man I know it's harsh but I just don't think is he good enough to really get that top level you picked like the best player from the worst team you don't know if he's going to be I'm not trying to like have a deep I don't think you watch Wolves enough if you don't rate him that's just the other player I didn't I might as well say it no no no right left wing I've got Gordon yes friend of the show I've got Gordon yeah it's a good one actually I actually think because we talk about who's going to be England's left winger he's always he's good for England even we all said he's always there but he cannot start he cannot start he needs to he needs to better his output and he can't just rely on penalties to get his goal right now I wouldn't even have him in the squad I'd have Barnes over him and I think it's hard he's a friend of the show but I think he would he's the first to criticise himself could you even play Rodgers out left that's what he plays he's been playing a lot for Villa I've got a front two I've got 4-4-2 I've got Mateta yes mate Mate, Mateta hasn't scored since November.

1:27:21He's had one goal since November. He's such a patchy player. Bear in mind, we had him in like top three strikers at the start of the season in the league. I think you did. Well, he was at the start of the league. At the start of the season, he was considered one of the best strikers in the league. I think that shows a lack of good strikers in the league. But also, he's got an ego now. He has got an ego. He thinks he's the bollocks. Also, don't get me wrong. Mateta is good. But right now, we're talking about currently. He's so inconsistent. go missing for such period he is a purple but I'll see him here just goes like they should have sold him at his peak and I don't think he could sustain it and it sounded mental at the time but that purple patch he was never I don't think he's held by the rest of his team as well though but then also again just going back to what I said the other one I feel really arse harsh arse I feel really arse I don't even know if I agree with this you're a massive arse man Evan Nilsson he's always I don't think he's overrated no one rates him why I think he's just No one's gone like Or Evan Nilsson He's a player I think everyone's been saying Cooper Junior should play ahead of him Yeah but I think If he was in the convo of like When we bring up He's crap None of us put him in He's also very expensive as well Can I say one more name Evan Nilsson He's pony No you're not allowed Can I say one more name No I just want to It's an open discussion No No because we might have them I'll bring it up If you don't bring it up Right I'll do mine then Martinez and Galt Yeah I mean I picked it as well But it's kind of low hanging fruit It is Is he not now Can I just play devil's advocate Like Theo would say Please do Don't say he's underrated Is he now not becoming underrated Because everyone calls him overrated When actually he's just a decent keeper Well I'm doing it for more In my opinion Because I always He was shit yesterday by the way I realised I've overrated him I always rated him really highly Like I was saying Man United definitely should have got him Yeah yeah yeah So like I definitely overrated him I actually think his accolades Don't help him Yes Yeah It does set him to his standards He's trophy padding Yeah he is trophy padding But he's a very good goalie He is a good goalie and he's got the accolades to back it up he has but I feel like a lot of the keepers in the world should have done better with the goal yesterday shouldn't they right Rico Lewis right back so I agree with Theo I've gone but I hate that we're saying Rico Lewis I hate it you're right it's another English player that we're like I don't know we're not shit look he's obviously good at football he's a fucking player for Man City he might not be for much longer he keeps playing the way he does Martinez the butcher yeah I like that a lot Jackan Yeah.

1:29:43Been good lately though. I know, but... Since he's come back from injury he's been really good. I feel like we watch Martinez with a let... Trying to find the positives. Certain players you try and find the positives. You said get rid of him. We all said no, no. He's solid. You think he should still go from United? Maybe not. Go back to Spain. He's been really good. He has been really good. He has been really good. He was in a six as well. Ruben Diaz as well. Don't mind that. I do think he's overrated. Yeah. That's Reeves' best defender ever. That's annoyed me. I haven't put that in actually. The next one might get a reaction.

1:30:14Why do you preface that? Well, because it's going to get a reaction. It's Lewis Skelly in left back. I don't know. So I don't... When he's played this year, we haven't been close. Let's hear him out. I see the reasoning because when he's played this year, he has been quite poor. I think maybe you're right. At the start of the season, we could have overrated him. You did. Most definitely. Most definitely at the start of the season. But right now, I think we all understand that maybe he isn't... He's not the same as last year and he's not our best left back now. Yeah, because you... So I think we understand his left back.

1:30:44I would like to say... We understand his left back now. I would like to say last year you listed him as the best left back in the world, which did set me off down this trail. I saw that clip the other day. He was? No, look, he's obviously class, but like everyone thought he was cementing that place down. Caleb Fiore's been class and said, no, fuck off. Yeah, I understand it. Belaber? Yeah. We're looking at a Brighton player who's had a good season and everyone's thinking, you're the fucking boy. Imagine United paying 100 mil for him. He's been crap this season. They'll be kicking themselves. Castellanos has been better than him.

1:31:11They'll be kicking themselves now, Brian. Xavi Simmonds, another German import. A bit weak, a bit fragile. I don't mind it. Is he going to do it in the league? I don't mind it. This one, I feel I disagree with myself because he's fucking turned it around in recent games, but I back that it'll go back to how he was. So I'll put Erdegaard. And I feel like his current good form will actually lead into a meet overrated. Because that's not a current thing. I don't mind that Because currently he's actually better No no but no But he's It's like the same thing with Mateta Even if Mateta had a little purple patch now It doesn't mean he's not overrated Because he'll go back to being shit And I think Erdegaard will do that I nearly had Erdegaard even But just because of how he's been playing But he would pull the weekend He'll pull the weekend That's what I mean He'll go back to fucking form And it's little patches like now Which make him overrated Because everyone starts saying He's the guy He's the guy How do you think people rate him though?

1:32:02Yeah Everyone rate him Well right now Because he's really technical But I still want to wait Until the big big games Towards the end of the season then we'll see Erdogan I think that's just an interesting time that you've decided to put it in no I'll write no because everyone's writing him in a minute so he's saying it's overrated I've stuck to my long term opinion of them it's actually the perfect time to say it because even this season if you're saying currently we're talking about this season he wasn't good at the start see like everyone was Ezik Ezik and it's only when Ezik was there where Erdogan started lifting his levels since he's come back from injury he's been good and he had Erdogan but then the weekend was poor last two seasons he's still got 11 assists each season yeah against two though and you're also exactly 15 goals one season you got.

1:32:41Great. You're looking four years ago. Not when it mattered. That's four years ago. He got more than I thought to be fair. Okay, this one is, and I'm not intentionally doing Arsenal plays, it just happened, and he's out of position but I had to squeeze him in there. Havits, I keep hearing talk of, Havits is coming back now, as if it's a positive. Everyone weren't going, we need a stroke we can finish. Oh, but Havits, we're getting Havits back soon. He's a genuine example of like, what did you say? Fuck me for. He's not even fucking playing. But he's overrated by the fact that Arsenal fans are looking forward to him coming back on the team.

1:33:15He looked good against Bortsmouth. No, but you're talking about Havertz coming back as if he's going to be an improvement on Jokeres. It goes to show how bad Jokeres has been. They're going, will we get Havertz back? Yes. And honestly, Jokeres was meant to be the replacement. I'm not going to lie. I was this close. I don't understand the Jokeres shout. I'm putting Jokeres in because he's not overrated. He's actually underrated. I was this close to putting a certain... You can't. Certain someone. Because I might have him. Left wing. Right, look. I put Gordon, but I don't think he's... I don't think he's overrated.

1:33:50I think he's out of form. No, no. But he has to... No, don't shit yourself just because he's your mate. But I do think he's there. You just created an overrated 11. And in the overrated lane, you've put someone you think is not overrated. Because it depends how you define it. I think he'll get back, so I have no concerns about it. but I can't not put him in the list now of what I've said about other players. Like, that would be... So you think he's overrated? I think he's out of form. Admit it. It's not this list. This isn't an out of form. He's currently overrated. There you go. Wow. That's friend of the show.

1:34:19But he'll bounce back. That's your mate. That's friend of the show there. He'll bounce back. He wears that top as well. But wait, Lewis, how nice was he to us? He was lovely, wasn't he? You would have been the honest. Yeah. It's not very nice of you. He's not his best friend. I say that Gordon's probably the first person to criticise himself at least I said it with chest I back him with 110 % and then obviously he's Zach up front that's nice it's not harsh is it at this but I think Liverpool fans would agree I was chatting with that Liverpool fan the other day and he was like he is fucking shit and then seen the other one rating him as like an epic fan is he overrated or is it the same situation as Gordon then just like completely out of form injured so you're saying you overrated him yeah I was so wrong I was actually so wrong I was an idiot can you be overrated if you've not played in a month.

1:35:03I thought that. Does that work? Yeah, we're talking about this currently. We're not talking about today. Like, it's this season. Yeah, he had Havertz as well. He's came in 130 million. He's performed like Jokeres. Two of his players he had barely featured this year. That's how it shows how bad Havertz is. The fact that you're still rating him and he hasn't even played. Mad. Current players are overrated. Currently not playing. Go on, Reeve. In goal, as I said, joined with Lewis, Emi Martinez. I think the keepers are a little bit tough, you know. It is hard. I've got one you're going to hate in goal.

1:35:35Fuck you now. That's me. Right back, I've got Jeremy Frimpong. I think he came to the league with so much... I think he's just been played out of position. I think every time he looks good is when he's been playing right wing. Yeah, he's a winger. He's a winger. He's not a right back. He just can't fucking deliver the ball. He's not a right back. That also implies that he would be a great as a right back. But also, he's only up 30 million quid. Only. In this day and age, yeah. He came to the replacement for fucking Trent. I don't mind that. Nish. Canati at centre back and then partnering him we've got Wesley Fofana I think he still carries way too much credit in the bank he's not actually he's still an outstanding player I don't mind I think he's the£80 million I didn't think about that actually that's good Man United fans will not agree with this but everyone else probably still overrates him I think Dalo the club think he's shit but everyone else thinks he definitely fucking rates him do you?

1:36:21I think he's just poor a lot of Man United fans they hate him I think he's bang average yeah oh dear that's why he's a good squad player yeah yeah yeah midfield I've got Belieber yeah as expected sorry Lou but I've got Tonali ooh yeah I hear that because people are saying he's better than fucking Rice we had conversations that he was the best midfielder in the league last year and he's just no way near I could see no look that's harsh to Rees out of form yeah he's out of form to Rees I love Tonali I love him as well but he hasn't been at the level at the Currently, right now, there is no debate.

1:37:01Sorry, no, last few months he's been poor. Before, I could actually sit here and argue Tonali over Rice and now I couldn't do that. Because it's just, he's struggling a bit. Bruno Fernandes has been better in the same position. Let's not go crazy. Let's not be silly now. There's a lot of players that Tonali's been playing in that deep role. There are reports suggesting Liverpool are in for Tonali in the summer. That'd be great. 100 million. Again, another one. Small club. The 4-4-2. everyone just tick off all 11 and then my final one I don't know whether or not he's actually leaving what formation are you playing?

1:37:354-3-3 same I mean certainly in terms of attitude problem just everything about him at the club I think Paqueta yes he's gone Flamengo he's not still there I've read that he was still in discussion of being around I completely every time I watch West Ham he pisses me off yeah yeah yeah I don't know where he's got this reputation from I don't think he's ever he shows glimpses and it's like I feel like the rest of it he's just fucking spat his dummy out when he's not gone yet. When he was in Man City and stuff I was like I don't get it. It's mad that he could have been at Man City right now and now he's off I feel like he's unathletic like you say his attitude his discipline I'm not a massive fan of Piqueta.

1:38:14Club World Cup money making Flamengo be out of five Premier League players in their prime. Yeah I don't see it. Who's your front three? My front three consists of Savinho. Does anyone rate Savinho? I don't know I don't know what the consensus is for me. Do you know, since he signed for City, he's only scored three goals? I feel like if you said that at the start of the season, he would have been fine. But I think the more we watch him, the more it's like... I don't think that's fair. Go on, next. Gio Pedro, I think he's out of the way. I nearly put him in. I always think... Why? People think he's way better than he is.

1:38:46Like, he's not an open play goal scorer. He's a 10. I thought he was better than what he was. He was bought as a number nine. He's a 10. Why would he buy a number 10 behind Cole Palmer and Enzo Fernandes? He's not a stud. He's a versatile 10. He's not, mate. Oh, I don't mind that shout. In which case, he should be scoring more goals than he does. He didn't have a shot on target in about five. He had a great start, didn't he? And then it's just simmered out. His goal the weekend was really good. Very well taken goal. I do hear that, though. I think Joe Pedro is just, like, good. He's got seven Premier League goals this year.

1:39:16Do you think he should be a more? Five of them came in like the first four games, didn't he? Yeah, it was all at the start of the season. He's got dunk two on West Ham at the start. And then finally, Stran Larsson. I still think oh yeah I like that fucking Alwee John dodged a bullet there 60 mil overrated or not currently though he's shit I'm not even overrated based on the money that was free thrown around in the summer he didn't take 60 mil he comes with a rep that just you don't really see we're trying to shift him for 40 million to Forrest and Leeds but I just don't see it happening they're not going to do that they won't do that right you're not going to like this one but I've gone a similar route to Theo with Bernardo Silva Alisson in goal oh I don't like that I think he's a...

1:39:55Fucking hell. I thought you were going to say Rayo, though. There's been a lot of goals and games this season where Alisson, a year or two ago, would have saved them. Would you say that he's facing more chances than he usually would as well? Possibly. With poor form. I think that's so harsh. I think it's a bit ballsy, like. He's become way more prone to errors. Like we said, the goalies are found hard. Yeah. I don't think Martinez is overrated anymore because I think everyone says he's overrated. It's a bit like when everyone calls Carrick underrated. How can you be underrated? So where do you rank him in the world?

1:40:23stage of keepers where's he ranking keepers view I think now he's probably not even top three in the Premier League I'd have Raya above him I'd have Donnarumma Donnarumma above him and Nick Pope obviously maybe yeah maybe third then probably Nick Pope but I still by the way can I just clear this up I think Alisson he's probably the best goalie ever in the Premier League but I think now people still view him as that so I know it's harsh but I think even last year when like Keller had come in they looked as good if you're arguing that he's not the best keeper in the if you're arguing that he's not the best keeper in the league then that's fair but I think it's fucking harsh and he's overreared I think I think I think he's old reputation proceeding I think people would come to the conclusion that he sits around third now I don't know I've seen things lately where people are proper arguing saying how can you have Raya above Alisson I've always been saying Raya I think Raya now he's better than Alisson Raya's the best goal in the league Donnarumma fucking hell but Raya's close he's good he's good he has the best defence in the league ahead of him though.

1:41:23I think that's so cheap to say that when his rise shot stop and bin it is unbelievable. You know, it's not cheap to say it. It's just, he's really good but it is a fair point that if you have a really solid defence ahead of you then you, you know, you're going to be protected more. I mean, he wouldn't save him. That's not crazy. So I mean like, he's still doing No, I'm not disagreeing but like, that is a factor. Right, my back four, right back, Ola Aina. I think he's living off his last season. He's been out for so long. I don't care. By the way Think of Olatayna Right He's 28 Had one good season In the Premier League last year And everyone just forgets How average he's been For his whole career Like he's crap Do they say he's like One of the better right backs Last year there was Shouts to him like One of the best right backs In the league He's crap He was at that point though He's crap I think it's The thing is But to be currently over it I don't think people Would put him in that Like His name wouldn't come up As top right backs now Yeah You know what I mean I think that's only Because he's been injured He's played six football matches In the league At the start of the season, people were having him as one of the best right-backs in the league.

1:42:21He's crap. Yeah, but contextually, that was true. He's only played six games in the league, and just like... What's that got to do with him being overrated? It's not much of a sample size for this season for him. Real use of logic there. Yeah, that's my point. I think he's crap. I think he had a fluke season last year, like Sells did like a lot of... I shouldn't have put Sells in, actually. Sells is overrated. I've seen him at Nucleus. He's shit. Sorry, no, I'm not having this. He's shit. Exactly, but he's not.

1:42:48at two starts to say he's crap. I'm not, but you're missing my point. I'm not even basing it on this season. I'm basing it on the reputation from last season. But he was brilliant last year. Yeah, yeah, I think he was at a fluke season. I think he's average. Actually, I put Ternali in, so it's the same logic, isn't it? That's what I mean. What? Ternali's played loads this year. My centre-halves have gone with... It's not the same logic. Ternali's got a way bigger sample size. He's saying that he's only played three games. He's had three starts since August. We've put Haberts in, which I think is because you just keep saying we're going to get habits back as if he's going to help I think you're missing I'm not basing it on this season do you know what I mean there's the whole point of doing it no but I'm saying yeah I know you're saying based off his reputation of last year I think he's overrated do you know what I mean yeah I know what you're saying but I think last season he was good yeah I don't I'm not denying it but I think people have overrated him from last season I mean you could it's pretty easy to understand yeah I know logically you could put the entire Nottingham Forest no I completely understand what you're saying I would just argue that I nearly put I would just argue that what have you seen of Einer this year in like three games?

1:43:49It's not based off this season. It's based off his whole career. I think he's had one lucky season. And I think he'll go back to type, which is an average player. He was terrible in the game against West Ham. I think he's a really average player, but he gets rated as, because of last season, one of the best right-backs because they had a lucky season. But you are saying you think he'll go back to type, but you don't know that. That's what I'm saying. He's had a good one. Yeah. They're just predicting. Centre-halves, Yoro and Pau Torres. I don't mind that at all and left back Jed Spence I can't believe he's in England DJ Ed DJ Ed I don't see him do you think both him and a doggy are is there an argument for both I think Jed Spence because I nearly put a doggy in but then I think Jed Spence is better than a doggy but I think they're both really is there a shout because we've all done defence now is there a shout for as a defender Porro yeah maybe maybe I feel that name carries some weight these days and I don't know why I've gone with I've gone with Belieba and Paquetta in my field and I've gone with Joe Linton as well.

1:44:47No, he's back to his best now. He's back to his best. There's other players in that Newcastle side that are. You know my thoughts with Joe Linton. That's mad. I think he's a big bruiser. I think he kicks and runs and I think he's so limited. But he's came back into the team. He's scoring goals. I hate him. Our form improved when he's came back into the team from injury. I hate him as a player. But you've just described everything that's great about him. Yeah. He's came back into the team. He's overrated because he's really good at the things that I dislike. Yesterday, the ball was bouncing off him.

1:45:19I think he's so limited. But he is. But that's why I think he's... He's came back to the team and immediately improved us. As he improved it that much. He scored huge goals for us. He was crapping the Palace game as well when we watched it. I've been there with other players in that midfield. Tonali, even I can say, I understand your logic there. But I really rate Tonali. Joe Linton is like he started I don't rate Joe Linton everyone talks about him like he's some no Joe Linton is what he is he's a unique player like this is what he is oh he's so unique he's fucking runs it he is he's aggressive how's he unique because he's just aggressive he runs oh no one does that in the world what players do you think are similar to Joe Linton in the league in the Premier League right now who's just a big bruiser who runs around kicking people the fact that you're not coming out with names right now shows he is fairly unique he could easily come up with a point If you said Bernardo Silva, you could come up with some names with a similar Bernardo Silva.

1:46:13All right, I'm thinking. Idrissa Gueye is like that. Onana for Villa. He's like that. Just run around, kick people. And do you think they're better than Joel Linton? I think Onana is better than Joel Linton, yeah. I find it really, I find that really strange. Because he has, he's came in at like, back to his top point. He's what? He's always a big brute who run around, kick people. Not big, but his game is run around, lick the ball, kick people, isn't it? It's quite technical though, isn't it? Idrissa Gueye? Yeah, yeah. You think it's technical? It's actually quite technical. More so than Jory.

1:46:41Yeah. I would agree with that. Fair enough. I think so. I just don't get it. Like, he came back into the team. He scored, like, that header he scored. It was fucking bad. How about the header that he missed yesterday? Mm-hmm. But, like, you can name any chances that anyone's missed. And you've just named one thing he did well? No, but the fact is he's came in. Just because he did one thing well doesn't mean he's suddenly a good player. He's scored more than one goal since coming back in. I've never rated Joe Lillian, though. And he's immediately improved our form when he's came back in in good form.

1:47:04The way you talk about him I think I really don't like him As a player I don't really talk about Jolene these days If I'm honest Maybe on that I know I feel like He started the season Not great But he's came back In really good form So it's a weird one My front three I was so I've gone with Meteta and Gordon as well And I was so close To putting someone At right I'm thinking the same player I was going to put Saka in I'm starting to think I do rate Saka as a player But have you seen his record In the last like two years It's fucking diabolical For someone you claim to be world class. That's the thing.

1:47:35Sorry, why are we doing it? How, a week ago, was he in like your team of the 2020 to 2025s and then like a week later he's now the most overrated winner you can think of? Wait, wait, that is completely separate to what I'm... He's not in my team, by the way. But he just used your logic for Olejna. No, no, no. So Saka has been great for Arsenal for two, three years, right? Yeah. The last year, the last 18 months, his output has been terrible. For the best team in the league, and someone you claim to be world class he's primarily the sister now isn't he but he hasn't even been doing that how many has he got this year he's got like four assists and two goals I think four goals three assists in the Prem do you think that's good enough seven goals four assists total for someone who is world class this is what I mean this is what I mean but I think he I see your point there to caveat that anyway my right wing is Madweki oh zero goals zero assists and Arsenal fans are telling me he's a great signing apparently what the fuck is he done?

1:48:33Are they? Who are you talking about? No, remember that purple patch he had when he beat two players in two games and everyone went fucking and he's been class and did nothing? Yeah, but who are the Arsenal fans that are saying he's got three goals in the Champions League? You paid 65 million for Madweke? Didn't we put him in like six and three in the Champions League? Who? Madweke. Are we joking? Well, he has. I think he's telling the truth. No, he has. Against what? What called Bruise? Didn't he score a hat-trick? He's got a Champions League. Three appearances, three goals. Who are you talking to?

1:49:02for this. Madwecki has been crap for Arsenal. Yeah, but no one's going he's like fucking generational. I would pick point it. I don't think anyone thinks he's too good. Yeah. No one's saying like he should start with a sack. I feel like sack is a better shell for that reason. I think he's just like, he's just Madwecki, isn't he? I think he's just the same level that he was at Chelsea. Do you expect a 65 million pound player to come in and get no goals and assists in the Premier League? That's what you expected. Well, probably when he starts a few more games get him. Yeah, but he's also a squad player.

1:49:29He's not really like... He should pay 65 million for a squad player who's played 20 games this season and got no goals and assists. That's not a lie. He's played 20 games in the Premier League this season, hasn't he? He's played 13. He started 13. He's played 13. He's come off the bench seven times, hasn't he? He's 13 appearances in the Premier League this season. Yes, 13 and six. He's played 18 appearances all season. Sorry, 19 then, so six of them. No, no. What? That's 13, 6 of them. Sorry, I apologise. I thought it was 20. Yeah, so what you're saying is just wrong. Okay, so in 13 games, zero goal, zero assist for the best team in the league.

1:50:04You think that's okay? No, it's not okay. I don't think anyone's going around saying Madiweki's like this. Yes, they were when he had that purple patch of beating two players in a game. Everyone went, what the fuck is that? His purple patch was ringing really well. Exactly, I'm not. So I think that's made him overrated. I think he's so average. I think he's just all right. Yeah, but he's just purchased as a player that was needed when needed. So you've paid£65 million for just an all right player. You were the one who doesn't care about money. That's what you thought. his big clubs don't care about money.

1:50:34And the money's irrelevant to his performance. He doesn't choose his price point. He's just about the performance of the player. This isn't a personal attack on that record. It sounds like you're hitting on it. Who's saying he's chose his price? What a stupid thing to say. You did? I find that, Maduro. Just making things up. Just like you, with his stats. Yeah. I read it wrong. You added nine games to him. He's got three goals in the Champions League, mate. That's what I said, yeah. I'm wrong. He was a great sign in Madweka. He's done really well. No one said he's a good player. I think the argument is, I don't think anyone holds him to some crazy standard.

1:51:08I think he's just like, he's an alright player off the bench. So I don't know how he's overrated. But he's been starting games for them. Yeah, but the way I view him as a player, but that doesn't make him overrated. And rotating though, isn't it? That doesn't make him overrated. Like, my opinion of him is like, yeah, he's a good squad player. The whole point you need to rotate. The fact Madweka starts games for Arsenal, I think he's a crime. What? Doesn't make him overrated as a player. I think he's really really average I think he's like a mid-table Premier League but the whole point of having a squad when you're playing two three times a week is that you have to rotate yeah I know and my point is he's a terrible option I think it's a bit harsh it's an harsh list you've actually had the worst list oh no let us know in the comments who you think had the best list and the worst list and let us know why you think Lewis next week should come topless