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21:47He's everyone.

21:48Reev:He just hates everyone. Assessing all options, that's not saying he's leaving or staying. It's either he's signing a contract or whatever, but I don't know. Do you just hate any footballer or any agent that dares deep into the air? No, I don't like when agents get in the media and start chatting. That's their job. That's pointless, stupid stuff. Where it's right or wrong, that is what they are. But do you not agree that... He's marketing his player because Isaac's long-term future is not there, that's why. Do you know what? I agree with that because what Eddie Howe actually said after the Celtic game when he was spanked, he was saying how he spoke with Isaac, but he says, and he's like, I understand football is like a short career.

22:24So it's like... You're a stepping stone, aren't you? It was clear that's what was part of the conversation. How does it feel to be a stepping stone? But Isaac, he is going to go to like that top level. No, for every player. Every top player.

22:34Reev:Even Sean Lone Star. Lone Star. Do you not agree though? if you were with my logic that if we were to get a bid right now 150 million for Isak it's pointless taking him for this season because there's no one who we really going to sign anyways who we can't sign with the budget we have and losing him in this season when there's so much competition with Tottenham coming back into the fold Chelsea fucking looking really good I think if you were to reject 150 million for Isak you'd need fucking help that's the crazy I think if we accepted that we're accepting we're not going top four this season why can't you just sign you can try and replace them and you keep telling us you never make a bad signing so surely you'd be alright we don't really but there's making good signings there's making world class signings no no but you seem to think you seem to think it's a one in one out system whereas you could lose Izek for 150 million but you bolster the squad with five or six very good players my point is we're trying to do that now and we're not getting anywhere we're not fucking getting anywhere nobody wants to live there mate you got a langer it's true a langer's really good I like that signing a lot it's not enough though is it We've lost It's really pissing me off Because we came into a season Where we really need to go for it We've got Champions League football Last time we suffered Because we had no death We've lost more players Than we've gained In this window And we have all this money It's almost like You're not a very well run club Or a very attractive club Things have definitely been different Since Amanda Stavley There is plenty of time For you to be busy Maybe you just don't have The pulling power Of the bigger clubs We're going to sign DCL We're going to move on Because speaking of Liverpool's Transfer window I wanted to have a little look at how it compares against previous transfer windows because, let's face it, they are on the verge of like one of the better ones ever, right?

24:13Reev:It's actually a great win of all time, eh? Sometime. Especially if they win the league as well. So we've got a few teams, a few years we're going to talk about. I mean, United in 2007. Pretty good transfer window. Tevez, Nani, Anderson, Owen Hargreaves. In retrospect, just with Hargreaves' injury problems, it sort of knocks it down a little bit, doesn't it? What? Well, Hargreaves barely played of it after a little while, didn't he? Argus was good. Look at the year they did it though and then the success they had directly after. I'm just saying like they're going to be up against some steep competition with fucking transfer windows here.

24:45Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, of course. Like on the face when he came in that was a great sign. Yeah, like 39. He had 118 league appearances. That is quite hindsight-y though

24:57Reev:because like when it Yeah, it's always going to be in the moment when it happened that's a ridiculous sign. Oh no, what are you doing about Tom? He just said, oh go back. Total in his career. In his career time. Oh, I was going to say. It is actually, do you know what his career he played 199 football matches it's very upsetting what a player though in 13 years that's awful isn't it it is actually fun he was good though 42 for England that's quite a lot for that injury record he was good for England he was good for England even though he's not English retrospective hindsight is going to come into a bit I don't know how he played for England does it say there was it his mum his mum his mum was born in Wales wait what English father Oh, I was going to say.

25:37So he's Mond Welsh. Speech German. Yeah. And he's Canadian. Yeah. Yeah. Good play, though. Damn. 20 league appearances.

25:45Reev:Well, yeah, they've got Tevez, Nani, Anderson. Obviously, Anderson, one of the most highly rated. What was that called? I can't remember. What was it? Biggest legacy. No. Biggest disappointments, wasn't it? Oh, yeah. Should have won a Ballon d 'Or. Yeah, that was so good. Anderson, obviously, Notorci should have won a Ballon d 'Or But Real Madrid 2010 This is a very very good one as well Di Maria Kadira Ozil for 18 million euros Ozil Carvalho for 8 million Obviously Pedro Leon And Canales Canales for 6 mil is pretty good actually Barcelona 2004 They were building the team to beat Arsenal in 2006 Eto Deku Deku Juli Edmilsson That was a good win though to be fair to say He scored.

26:35Yeah, he did. Silvino. Well done.

26:38Reev:And Larson scored. Two of their signings scored in the Champions League final in 2006. Larson on a three. Larson and Belletti scored in 2006. Was he Larson? I thought he was Etto. No, it was Larson and Belletti. What was Larson's goal? They were both down the right hand side. Yeah, I remember Belletti's. I don't remember Larson's. Quite similar, actually. Both at the near post against Al Munia. A shock. Fucking demon. Yeah, good window. why can't I remember Henrik Larsson scoring in a fucking final that's mental how many was Etto going to be in by the way yeah then in 2009 this is the best one he signs for Inter Milan this is a joke Diego Melito should have won Ballon d 'Or Etto I hate when you say that it just fucks me off Motta Lucio and Pandev on a three that all of them hit and they won the treble that year that's a bit dumb Ander Mourinho oh this Chelsea one's good though Chelsea yeah this is decent no actually yeah no it's good it's very good when you look at the price this was it Kesman was a flop, but the rest were good.

27:33Reev:Start off the fucking 15-goal season for John Terry, mate. Drogba for 38 million. That's expensive. That is. Yeah, it's probably about 100 million now. Cavalio, Ferreira, Robin, Thiago, Cech, and Matthias. Cech for how long he was there as well. Like, the longevity that Cech had is what I saw in him. I wonder who scouted him. Probably the Chelsea scout. I imagine, yeah. Maybe. Leicester City's title window. Right. Shinji Okazaki. striker. Kante, Inler. We're not seriously talking about that. I mean, lads, they won the Premier League from almost relegation. It's the Kante effect, isn't it? In terms of the window, Kante's the biggest pull there.

28:16Reev:I will say the 2009 summer window was a fucking belter, by the way. Inter Milan had theirs. Real Madrid had Ronaldo, Kaka, Benzema, Alonso, Albiol, Arbeloa, and Granero. Can you imagine Imagine your time now. It's not that insane. Mate, Ronaldo, Kaka. Kaka was... Oh, yeah, he wasn't that good of a window. Kaka and Benzman. Kaka was a complete flop at Madrid. That is a lot of money for... I'm just imagining those players coming in. He was. He was injured all the time. He wasn't a flop, but he just lived up to his Ballon d 'Or hype. From AC Milan. Don't you dare talk about Kaka like that. There's three good signings there.

28:54Three really good signings and one decent one.

28:57Reev:Mate, fine. I'll below always do. Ronaldo, great, good signing. Benzema because Alonso Albiol and Albaloa Albaloa is one of the longest I included Albaloa I'm not including Albiol he paid cent a half years he was shit why is this money now you're winter one here Benzema was shit for five years yeah to be fair to be fair Madrid fans did hate him for years but 0-4-0-5 United signed Vidic and Evra yeah that was in January wasn't it it was January it was pretty impressive actually 15-16 City signed De Bruyne Sterling Ottomendi and obviously Fabian Del yeah huge one that idea he actually played a lot though yeah of course probably less than the other three he just went through a spree he had to sign English players didn't he I reckon Delph had more appearances he did for registration who else did he get Sinclair and then he just sat on the bench wow because he had for registration he had to just get English players are you saying that's what people should do some proper British players if you want to make registration what's it players who played more for City Delph or Ottomendi surely Ottomendi yeah he's got to be Ottomendi Delph was injured a lot as well centre backs play way more didn't Delph he played 136 but that's in the that's Delph surely not did he come out saying he's definitely staying at Villa before this as well didn't he 89 what did you say sorry it was probably Delph came out just before this move didn't he saying like oh yeah I'm not going anywhere he was the captain at Villa he said I'm definitely not they've never they've never done that though they never do that yeah no no because what they say in the media is what they mean isn't it yeah definitely some of them mean it they all love the club and they're all so happy to be there.

30:29Reev:I will say, do you know this transfer window? If you look at all the Premier League clubs, you look at clubs around the world and Europe, it's been quite an active transfer window. So far? Yeah. 100%. It's active. It's very sexually active. Is that Club World Cup affected? I don't know. People, I think people... Well, no, because I mean, what I'm saying is like the teams around them that have been in the Club World Cup are making transfers. So all the other clubs are going, fucking hell, they're making moves already. We're going to have to join. I think people, clubs saw clubs last year leaving transfers last minute too late and missing out on players or whatever and they're like fucking hell we need to actually just get shit done I think there's a lot of stuff that's going to keep happening to the deadline I think there's teams like yeah it's a long time but my point is they're getting stuff done earlier this year but there's big names moving all around the place Liverpool have only moved fast because Trent left immediately to play in but it's been a very exciting window across the board I agree I think it's going to be a great season but even in the Premier League City ain't messing around Arsenal buying players Spurs are buying players United are buying players Chelsea are buying loads of players Spurs are signed one There's been a big Churn reaction They're linked with a lot They probably are They have to right And then obviously you've got Newcastle aren't buying players There's a mixture We have facilitated Other clubs to buy players You're not involved mate We went to sign And that forced Chelsea To sign them We went to sign Whistler And that forced Man United to sign them So we're helping others You're just in the corner On the chair aren't you We're facilitating Newcastle Football Club Are literally you We're facilitating all the people's room.

31:57Reev:You sit in a chair and just wank over the club. It's all going to turn out great, man. No, you are a cut. So who are you going to sign now? I really don't know. Well, no, you're in the meetings. By the way, I was told at the weekend by a drunk unknown source that Yikariz is getting announced today on Monday. Wow. He's going to be shit. Who was that? I don't know. Ruben Amaro. Oh, right. I genuinely don't know. It was just at a festival. Some guy. Some guy. I love what you do, man. Just let you know, you could sign on Monday. That's literally how it went. Okay, right. Leeds fan, is he? Don't know.

32:34Reev:Right, moving swiftly on, because obviously we previously discussed that Newcastle United are relatively... Teeny tiny club. We can't attract any players because nobody wants to play for them. You know when we discussed this before between Villa, Everton and Newcastle, did we say Newcastle were bigger than Everton or not? I did. He did. What did we say? I can't remember if you were there I don't even know if I was on that pod I shouted and screamed at him that they weren't because they're not and he's probably going to do that again in about 10 minutes it is close I mean it's close-ish if you've won you're doing Newcastle a big disservice at the moment no I'm not I think Newcastle are a big club but you're not half as big as you think you are I think we're getting quite big right now you don't win anything we won a trophy we won a trophy you're a one club city you should sell out that stadium but you can't hold that against us I understand that but you can't hold that against us No, no, but that isn't an argument for you being so, like, mahoosive because you sell out your stadium.

33:29So you fucking should, having that many... No one in Newcastle sports anyone else. You should. I know, but, like, it's like you're holding that against... Like, I understand. I understand. Yeah, I know, but you're saying... If there was only one club in Birmingham, they'd get£150 ,000 every week. Yeah, no, but how many... One of the things... We'll get onto this.

33:45Reev:How many years of the modern era of a team's success does it take to, like, clip... Older clubs. I understand your point of like one club city but we'll go again we'll get on to that I just can't imagine Birmingham selling out the new camping if there was no Phil Alvin and Wolves the team in Birmingham would get 150 ,000 a week like that's just a fact it would be the same in Manchester so you've got Wolves West Brom Birmingham and Blues Blues oh yeah Birmingham wait no that is Birmingham yeah Wolves West Brom who all sell out every week what What seat are all your stadiums? Blues is about 30. Wolves is about 30.

34:24Albion's like 26. And Villa's like 50 something.

34:27Reev:They sell out every time. Yeah. Always sell out. Yeah. Well, Blues have started to. Now they're doing well again. And away from home they do. Club size, obviously Newcastle have always been in the prem. Does history count towards club size, I think? Definitely. Big time, bro. Global fan base. I think Newcastle are massive in their own city I don't think they're that massive outside of it Can I ask my question again? Yeah go ahead darling How much of success in the modern era determines how big you are? Oh well that's a good question It's a great question about Manchester City isn't it? Yes I think it's got to be sustained hasn't it?

35:07Yeah So for example I was arguing on Twitter the other day with someone that the claim was that Blues were a bigger club than Albion because they've more recently won a major honour but then I said does that make Wigan bigger than us then yeah does that make Swansea no it doesn't they're just not because that would imply

35:23Reev:Palace and that's the only Blues have only ever won one trophy or two trophies the Man City one's an interesting one because they've been so dominant over the last 10 years but prior to that but to a lot of people around the world they would view them as a small team they've done it long enough they're getting there now but anyway let's go through it they've done it long enough let's do it who wants to go first you know what Reeve you go first sure I don't mind I'm not going to like deny that I found this incredibly difficult and it's going to come across horrendous. You're not sitting on the butch are you?

35:52Reev:It's so easy by that. Sitting on the butch. Bottom I've got Burnley in 20th. That is so wrong. Oh is it? Burnley! Oh is it? Okay right. You think Brentford would be going to Burnley? I put Brentford in 19th. That is so harsh on Burnley mate. They're founder members. Okay right. But Brentford have been in Premier League longer than them at the moment. I'm trying to... Burnley have been in the Premier League longer than Brentford and they've qualified for Europe not long ago. Yeah, yeah. That's crazy. I don't think you've fought a lot about that. Above them, I've got Bournemouth. Shit, what have I done with them?

36:31Reev:Then I've got Brighton. Four Bs in a row. Brighton? Yeah. I just, in terms of history, there's not really much there. I've got Bs twice. Oh, sorry, mate. I know it feels bad. Fulham above those in 16th. Half one. I just can't get over the Burnley one. And then I've got Palace in 15th. Why are you like tridding around eggshells saying these teams? It's scary doing this. I don't feel comfortable saying any of these. At any second, it's like you're going to hit a landmine and he's going to start screaming at you. Yeah. Burnley have won two first divisions in an FA Cup. Brentford have never won anything.

37:06All right.

37:07Reev:I don't really care. I'm going to get cooked anyway. I've understood the assignment, right? But where would you, not to give away your list, but where would you have put them in terms of... I've got Burnley 16th. Okay, right. Fair enough. They're not the smallest club in the league, but like at all. Then I've got Wolves, 14th. State of chess, man. Sunderland in 13th. Oh. They're not far off that to be fair. They are big. Forest in 12th. Ooh. And then Leeds above them. Ooh. Where have you got my staff? I've got West Ham above Leeds. You've got West Ham above Forest? Yeah. Forest have won two European clubs.

37:51Reev:I know, but Tom, this is where you have to think about recency bias and historic bias. You have to combine multiple different avenues. They haven't been about for a while. What's West Ham's history? European club. Oh, fuck. And also it's the state of the Premier League. I just think for a period in the Premier League. Okay, that's a fair argument, but not everything revolves... I only started watching football five years ago, man. They've been relegated how many times? Forrest have won two European clubs. I know, I know. I understand this, but you go far back enough. And they've got a massive fan base.

38:22They do, yeah. But I think when you have such a gap outside of the top division, that's success in itself, West Ham's sustaining that. So does that take away how many years before that Forrest were in the top five? It doesn't, but I weren't born.

38:35Reev:So what do you want me to do? I don't feel that in my chest. I don't feel that. Ignore him. But also, you have to think right now, who's a player going to sign for? Yeah, exactly. Probably Forrest. I think... Maybe right now. She may be right now. Say two years ago. Last few years. Last few years though, like... Yeah, okay, but we're not basing it on the last few years. Otherwise, this list would be completely different. But you have to use the multitude of many things. Forrest are... I'm not denying West Ham are a big club and an historic club within English football, but when we're looking at like major honours, Forrest...

39:12Yeah, yeah, yeah. Forrest are like I'm trying to think there's United Liverpool Chelsea and then Forest in terms of European competitions would you not then want to put Leeds above West Ham as well I have got I think I have I've got Leeds above West Ham I don't hear I think it's sort of wise

39:27Reev:just to back my well the point I'm trying to make a little bit here you know when you look at a general Premier League table obviously in recent years West Ham you know they've had a few blips and stuff but general expectation is they should be higher than the other teams that I'm talking about so in terms of like how you view them in a Premier League sense. Most people would go, West Ham, they should be doing better than these other teams. It doesn't necessarily mean that. Yeah, I think it's just... Does that make sense? West Ham have never won a top flight. They've got three FA Cups. I don't know.

39:58I think this one is telling on if what you value, is it value past and all that or do you value more recent stuff? I think this... Depending on that, you'll change the order of these. So what are we basing West Ham on recent? I guess it's... And don't say the conference, Lee. Please don't say that.

40:13Reev:Just a period of sustained seasons in the Premier League. But it's not sustained. They've been relegated about three or four times. I don't know. Just in my mind, I view them as... You're allowed your opinion, don't worry about it. I'm not telling you you're wrong. All I'm just, I'm trying to... I'm trying to... I think the issue is Forrest... I think you are wrong. I think the issue is Forrest for a long time have been out of, especially since I've been watching football in my life, they've been out of the eye of the top division. So it's like, I understand if you then want to take in all that pass, that's a fair argument, but it's like West Ham have been amongst it.

40:44They've had some big players.

40:47Reev:In terms of recency bias anyway, a little bit, I see Forrest as a team. Obviously, I know they've done so many amazing things in their general history, but they're almost like a second tier team when I think of them in recent... So Forrest have won the top flies. I know they've got loads of tries, man. Toby's not denying that. No, no, no, no. This is my point. When we're comparing, I'd say West Ham and Forrest, you'd probably argue have a similar fan base. in terms of size, right? They've got, well, they did have similar grounds. Now, West Ham have eclipsed that. West Ham have a longer time and period in the Premier League, correct?

41:23Which, by the way, they've done nothing in. What have West Ham ever done in the Premier League, genuinely? So have Forrests. So have Forrests and so have fucking West Brom. West Brom have finished top eight. I would never say we're a bigger club than Forrests.

41:35Reev:But he's put in one place among each other. I don't know. I didn't want it. I fucking hate it. If anyone wants to work out why we're doing this, it's because Tom decided this would be a good segment. Tom's going to tell us which order it is. We'll all do individual lists. We'll all do individual lists until he gets round to me and I've got the correct 20, you fucking idiot. I'm not saying mine's bang on. You are. We're discussing how we're judging it, aren't we? But I'm struggling to find your reasoning when Forrest have won so much. I don't know. Say vives. Vives. Yeah, yeah. Whenever I think of Premier League football, I'm just like, in my head, West Ham should be at least top par.

42:17But the Premier League has only existed since 92. It can't all just be about the Premier League. Even when you go into the facilities of the club now, the staff of the club, I think that I, from abroad, if you're a player abroad and you're looking at West Ham and their facilities in London, compared to Forest nowadays, then West Ham are way bigger. No, they're not. They are. They have a brand new big stadium, although it's shit we know. Not their stadium, though. General consensus of Chit Ham fans.

42:40Reev:Like, I just feel like there's more West Ham fans. Because you live in London? Yeah, maybe that's biased, isn't it? That's stupid. I'm so sorry. I'm so fucking sorry. No, but you guys want us to say it. That's like me going to speak to more Wolves fans and say Wolves are bigger than Newcastle. Iron. I don't know. That's a stupid way to do it. Anyway, carry on. Fuck, man. What's the point? No, by the way. What happened to your anti-Forest agenda? I'm sorry, we're only discussing it. This isn't a place where I'm shouting at you, go, no, you're wrong, you're wrong. We're trying to discuss it and have a fun conversation for the viewers where we're debating a club size.

43:18Why does it have to go, oh, oh, he's telling us we're wrong. Because he's telling you his reasoning and then you're like, no, no. No, I'm not. I'm asking for his reasoning, but his reasoning is flawed.

43:29Reev:Well, I can't win anyway. I started off with Burnley and he went, oh, you fucking know nothing about Lancashire. Right, anyway Next up I've got Next up I've got Newcastle Oh, come on Don't do that to us And then Everton above them That's rude That's rude For the longest time in the Come on You just fought passionately For fucking Forest West Ham Yeah, but Everton have never been relegated, man What, do you want me to argue? He's right Everton are bigger than Newcastle And then Villa in seventh I thought we were bigger Until he told me no And then the big six, really Spies In sixth Man City Oh I've tried to be biased here But obviously all my list is wrong I've got Arsenal in four You cook I'm going to It's not hypocritical here But Man City in fifth Sort of goes against Your recency biased logic Doesn't it?

44:19Yeah What do you mean? Because Man City Have won everything

44:23Reev:No but they still have A period of history Before that though Who? You're contradicting What do you mean? No you're contradicting Your argument With West Ham No but Man City Have been in the Premier League A long while They've been in the top five. Not that long. They got promoted in like 2002. That's a long time. You should have them above Arsenal at least. That's 23 years. Bare minimum. Almost a quarter of a century. Bare minimum, with your logic, they should be above Arsenal. No. They should. Why? Stop it. With your logic of recency. Yeah, if you're saying, if you're putting Chelsea above Arsenal, then with your logic, why is Man City not?

44:55Reev:Then Newcastle should be higher than Everton. No, no, no, no. By the way, I do agree with you, but I think it's flawed with the West Ham Forest argument, that's all. You're saying West Ham because of recent sustained success in the Premier League, but no one's more successful recently than City. Yeah, but when it comes to big six, I just feel like Arsenal worldwide fan base. Arsenal bigger than Chelsea. I agree. I think Arsenal are bigger than City. Arsenal bigger than Chelsea worldwide. I don't agree with that. I don't know about that. I think it's close. Especially now. I think Arsenal-Chelsea is the best debate on here.

45:30Yeah. I think it's really close. Do Chelsea have lots of like...

45:33Reev:fanboys on lock right now. Does Chelsea have Africa? Africa. And now America, mate. They just won the World Cup. Honestly, Chelsea... Without... I couldn't believe how many Chelsea fans there were in America when I lived there. I couldn't believe it. You went to America? Pulisic, man. I don't think he was at Chelsea when I was there. No, but you said the same about Arsenal. I know, but... Even Arsenal fans in America. No, Arsenal... No, but honestly, in my experience, like you with West Ham in London, there are... I came across more Chelsea fans in... That's weird to say because I can't because more Arsenal fans in America.

46:06Reev:And in Dubai. Well, definitely. So I went to the Arsenal Dubai Bank Club. Arsenal in Asia and A good, genuinely A good Middle East is bigger way bigger, isn't it? A good way There are a team in red. More people in Middle East. A good way A good Lucky colour over there. What's the word? Why is it? Yeah. A good way to try and differentiate it is social media. So should we have a look? I don't like that. It does matter though. Arsenal are clear Chelsea. No, no, I don't. Arsenal have the biggest social media following, I think. Arsenal have 22.6 million Twitter followers. I think Arsenal have the biggest social media following.

46:40Reev:That's why we win all the polls. The reason I don't like that, Tom, is like, say... Oh, really? Because Chelsea have four million more followers than you on Twitter. I don't think that's a good argument. Because, Tom, that's like saying if West Brom have less followers than, say, Blues now. We don't. We don't because we've got more fans. Probably. And moving forward, they will overtake you because they have now famous owners and whatever. I think social media, that comes down to how a club operates off the pitch in the media world. Hashtag will be in the top 20. Yeah, it's not an argument. No, but that's a bit of an outlier, isn't it?

47:13Because people who follow Hashtag aren't always Hashtag fans, are they? It'll be like people follow them for the YouTube and for things like that. But it shows how it's not a reliable source because the small club can also... No, no, no, no, no. I'm not saying every fan will follow. but my point it can be a good indication of a worldwide following based on how many followers you have surely that isn't a silly argument generally I just I don't it's a bit woke argument I'd say why because it comes down to a club's like media team and media budget and how they do Albi do fuck all on social media and we've got one of the biggest followings with Albi and

47:51Reev:aren't woke mate what Chelsea have 13 more million and Chelsea have 13 more million in Insta but I'm sorry I'm sorry they're not just edging you out there that to me that's a significant amount more I think they're a bigger club worldwide like fan base use a similar level than Arsenal yeah don't lie and also I was trying to be advice when I gave them that you've got to remember in the last 20 years Chelsea have been so successful so kids growing up without like a father figure to force a team on them or just picking kids will have picked Chelsea who are now 15, 16 aren't Chelsea now since the start of the Prem are they like the most successful British club or something I saw that after winning the Club World Cup no it's because they've won everything they've won every European no they didn't like total trophy I think what you're referring to might be since they first won the Prem since then they've been the most successful club since then perhaps yeah because it would be Man United since the start surely yeah Liverpool in second and then Manchester United I'm really surprised by that Here we go.

48:59Reev:By how many more followers I have. I just asked ChatGBT and it's taken into consideration history and legacy, stadium and infrastructure, financials and commercial power, fan base and global reach, and trophies. Can I just, before you go in, on that, on that, I'd say, financially is obviously Chelsea. Success is a tough one because recent is Chelsea. I think Arsenal have more trophies and more domestic success, but Chelsea are more... European success. have been more dominant in recent, but complete dominance and the European success. Infrastructure and things, you have the better stadium and I think training ground, I'd say.

49:37Cobham's quite nice. But it's a bit dated. But they're on about getting a new stadium, aren't they? Yeah. And then the deciding factor between the two, I think, is the fans, which is hard to call. I think within this country, it's Arsenal.

49:49Reev:Different demographics, aren't they? Well, they actually give two contradicting answers. Oh, they're on the fence then. They said historically Arsenal are bigger. Yeah. More consistency, deeper roots, league titles, etc. Modern era since 2000, Chelsea are bigger, especially in Europe in terms of trophies and success. If you're a traditionalist, you'd say Arsenal. If you focus more on recent success, you'd say Chelsea. I think Arsenal, if you never leave London, they're the biggest club by far. I think they're way bigger in London than Chelsea. Oh, yeah. You mean, yeah, yeah. It doesn't matter which part of London you go.

50:27It's the Arsenal shirts everywhere. It's Arsenal everywhere. Yeah, and I actually watched the Arsenal-Madrid game in a pub, when Declan Ross scored the two free kicks, in a pub opposite Stamford Bridge, and it was rammed with Arsenal. I love that. I love it. But it's a good debate. Yeah, it's a great debate. And anyone fucking crying about this, first of all, suck a fart out of my arse. Second of all, it's fun. I find it fun arguing about club sizes. because it actually doesn't mean anything does it but everyone has so much pride about it for some reason

51:00Reev:we're not smaller someone should create a Excel spreadsheet some nerd and combine all these different factors and find a way to create a what we should do he's an all-time Premier League I think I think one thing that Arsenal have sorry that like is a big thing for me is like if you have iconic players who have played for your club Arsenal have an Henri having that Henri Arsenal Chelsea got Lampard Terry Drogba yeah Henry eclipsed all that in terms of we've all said he would be the Premier League outlier he is worldwide as well because he's went over to Spain and done it Barca it's like having Bergkamp you have so many more iconic players you didn't even mention Barca though obviously in England United Liverpool are two biggest clubs right undisputed in the world is it United Liverpool Romeroon and Barcelona yes Yes, it is, isn't it?

51:54No, Real Madrid... No, he didn't say in that order. No, no, not in order.

51:57Reev:No, no, no. They're the full biggest. It'll be Madrid, Barca, United, Liverpool, I think. How far off is Liverpool from Man United? What's that? How far off is Liverpool from World 2 and Man United? Are these even on Premier League titles now? I think they're a lot closer than we think, especially in terms of titles. The only reason they're not... Trophy successor. It's the fan base. It is, yeah. Manchester United. You know United outperform Everyone in terms of Like commercially Shirt sales With shirt sales I think so Yeah things like But you're number 10 shirts Surely Madrid's the biggest First commercial Honestly I think Again I'm not up to date It's always been growing up With the finances That honestly Man United are so big worldwide Everyone in China Supports Man United Told you mate red It's like It is Liverpool are red What Liverpool wasn't here we go here we go Man United with the top selling football shirt last season both overall and at airports like Manchester Stansted and East Midlands fucking hell they sell all this shit wait is that no that's that's just in England Man City second Jesus that's so yeah that says around Madrid yeah because it's Harland and it would have been De Bruyneford and all that here we go did you see the amount number 10 shirt So he's Barca.

53:19Bayern Munich? Fucking hell. Oh, okay. Oh, no, isn't that... No, that's how much they get paid.

53:25Reev:Yeah, sponsorship revenue. Romerjid did 24 million in profit this year, didn't they? Did you see that? Exactly. They announced their... And that's like one of the biggest... I think that's one of the highest. Oh, right. Shirt sale, wherever in the online. Should we do your list? Okay. Yeah, let's do Theo's. Right then. In 20, I got Brentford. Then I got Bournemouth. Then I got Burnley at 18. Then I got Wolves in 17th. I've got what hold that Fulham you walked on a trip mine there go on get him Fulham in 16 no I'm not you can't be wrong in this Fulham in 16 how are Fulham bigger than Wolves and I despise them being a how are Fulham bigger than Wolves please explain to me more European success into Toto Cup and all that what are you on about some odd I like that Brian McBride Clint Dempsey also what Wolves Wolves Wolves started the European Cup you do know that they originated it yeah I know he nodded in my opinion wait no what of Fulham won my heart what of Fulham no come on let's be serious I don't know you have to be serious I don't know yeah Wolves are one of the most successful clubs in England really I did know that bit I did know that bit to be fair only because he bangs on about it I don't bang on about it I'm wrong moving on no no no we're not moving on I said I'm wrong admit it when you see the one that's more successful like the top 10 they're definitely in the top 20 so Wolves have won yeah see the Intertoto Cup like I said there you go you got them yeah you did that I knew they won the Intertoto Cup Wolves have won three First Division titles four FA Cups and two League Cups not quite an Intertoto Cup though Tom Fulham have won nothing I've literally just told you they won the Intertoto Cup Fulham have never won a trophy in England ever yeah they had the chance last season yeah maybe I got that one wrong and I open up and I admit that I'm wrong I'm sorry no but there's no no we can move on hey it's 2 for 2 now mate yeah you apologise I admit he was wrong and then you were like no no because there's going to be more that are wrong I do like the fact that Brighton haven't even been mentioned yet he's probably got at least top 10 how are Brighton bigger than Wolves Seagulls You're going to hate me

55:49Reev:15th, Sunderland There's no way Brighton are bigger than Nims Surely They can't fill out the stadium I can't back that one You've seen that play, he went to Sunderland for his medical Seeing what Sunderland's like and he said no Brighton are bigger than Sunderland right now Sunderland have won the top flight Six times You can't fill out the stadium I can go and Google and read stuff as well, mate It's not the end of the world Like fucking hell Mate Brighton are bigger than He's angry at us For only every 10 minutes To do that I'm telling you now Tom If I'm a footballer You should know Sunderland are a bigger club Than Brighton Tom If I'm a footballer I'm signing for Brighton Over Sunderland That's a wise choice That isn't the argument It's a wise choice You'd also sign for Brentford Over Sunderland That doesn't make them bigger No I know But it's a multitude Of many things So what are the many things That Brighton are bigger than Training facilities How do you know How do you know that Because I've been there Have you been to the Sunderland training facility?

56:43Reev:Sunderland I've shit you trained. Shit training facility. Is it? Tony Bloom. No wonder we got. Tony Bloom. More than success, mate. More than success, yeah. How have they made 14th, by the way? Brighton can pack out their stadium. Brighton. If they're not even in 14th, mate, this is crazy for me. Great transport links to the stadium. Ansu Fati. Guess how many major honours Brighton have won. Zero. Yeah.

57:12And you put them above Wolves and Sunderland and Burnley?

57:16Reev:I'm from the area. They're big in my area as well. I can't remember that. Yeah, all the fans, all the people around this area. Don't let me put you down. You got that right. You got that right. Every time I drive... Sunderland 15th and Ball 17th. They play in for 2 ,000 people? Every time I drive to London from my house, I go past the Amex, I think, damn, what a stadium. Oh, man, imagine if it keeps just going up in the top 10. What's that? Go on, keep going. What does it mean, top 10? There's a scene where you have Brighton. Yeah, 14th. I'm hoping it'd be higher Never mind Fucking El Brighton 14th 13th Crystal Palace Come on you Eagles Palace above Sunderland and Wolves It's fucking mental Palace of class They've won one trophy In their history Two FA Cup finals in the last 10 years What have Wolves done in the last 10 years?

58:06Reev:You fucking cooked Tony Bloom Wolves got to a semi-final of an FA Cup but they got to the quarter of Ireland of the Europa League. Oh, war trophy. Come on, mate. Fucking hell. He's just mentioned a runner-up in the FA Cup. Yeah, I didn't mention fourth place. Right. Twelfth, Nottingham Forest. Oh, we're in the same spot. Yeah, man, why not? Yeah. Eleventh, West Ham. Tenth, Leeds. What's your thoughts on Leeds above Forest, Tom? Well, I'll put them there as well. What song of Leeds? I don't get what song of Leeds. That's not crazy. I thought you were going to get... No, I was genuinely rubbing my eyes.

58:38Reev:He had an argument about West Hamer before us. We've already been over it. Ninth, I've got Newcastle. Oh my God, fear we're going to have the same list apart from all the bottom ones. Seventh, I've got Aston Villa. Well, you've missed eighth. Oh, eighth, I've got Everton.

58:55Reev:Seventh, Aston Villa. Sixth, Spurs. Fifth, Man City. Fourth, Chelsea. Nice. Third, Liverpool. No, I'm joking, I'm joking. Jesus Burn Arsenal Burn Arsenal I got you there Second Liverpool First United I'll go before Tom Because Tom obviously Has the correct list Yeah he's got the correct one So there you go So 20th We have Bournemouth Wait a minute I passed that one 19th We have Burnley Oh my fucking god man This is painful 18th we have Brentford All the B's mate All the B's Sorry But how are Brentford bigger than Burnley and Bournemouth I had five minutes before this to do it I don't know I just thought Burnley was shit I forgot about all the past shit I just thought the Burnley I know and they're shit and also Brentford are much better ranked club at the moment exactly they're just shit I forgot about I don't have the Wikipedia in my head that you have to remember all the shit they've done 17th I've got Fulham personal opinion I think that we should just kick them from the league they're fucking boring they're going to have a hot pub we've all got Fulham 16 is that because they beat you twice that season They're going to have a hot tub in the corner of the stadium.

1:00:09Reev:What do you mean? It's class. It's a football. It's actually a swim pool. It's not a hot tub. Can we just analyse the fact that Lewis just said Fulham in 17th and Theo went, oh yeah, we've all got Fulham in 16th.

1:00:23Fucking hell. Brighton 16th. Brighton. 15th Palace. 14th Wolves. 13th Sunderland. we're cooking here, mate. Keep going. 12th Forest. Oh my God, perfect guys. 11th Leeds. 10th West Ham. Fucking hell, man. What is that? I don't get all so bad. 9th. Do they not win anything? 9th, I have Everton. What did Forrest win? 8th, I have Aston Villa. Oh my God, what the fuck? Oh, you're embarrassing, mate. 7th, I have Newcastle. You're embarrassing. That's not the problem. Alan Shearer. Explain to me how Newcastle are bigger than Villa, please. Alan Shearer.

1:01:03Reev:He's at, because he's at. I'd say modern day success What's the modern day success? League Cup Win the League Cup He's got Champions League Fuck me He's got a point League Cup Champions League Villa got further in the Champions League More recently than you That's cute We have our Champions League right now And we won a trophy Right now? Yeah we have one right now In July We have it right now We've got one of the best drivers in the world We've won a trophy And also in my opinion Our stature in the game Is bigger Villa What are you on about? Villa Oh fuck it You've spent multiple seasons in the championship recently?

1:01:36Not recently.

1:01:42Reev:He's done you there. It's not recently. Well, it depends. If you're on about the start of time, then yeah, it's quite recent. With the last 15 years, you've been in the championship twice? Well, that's not that recent. That's like most of my life. That's years ago. It's like half your life. It's fucking like 18. It's like, how many years ago was it when we were in the championship? You've been in the championship half your life. Like 10 years ago. Fucking old news. That's pretty recent. I just put my fucking nail in my car. And also, what have you been doing? Like I said, we've got the Premier League top goal scorer who...

1:02:08Mate, don't just rat them off because the correct list is coming. Hey, you've got the current

1:02:11Reev:Premier League top goal scorer from last season and the old time. Yeah. Nah, hold that. He's just a closet fucking Villa fan. Sixth Tottenham, fifth Chelsea. Fifth? That's wrong, isn't it? Fourth Arsenal, third City. What? What is this list? How is City bigger than Chelsea, though? Yeah, not going to lie, I don't know what the fuck I was thinking there. City arse Chelsea. Can I ask, can I ask, why are Spurs bigger than Villa and Newcastle then? Based on your, what you're saying about Newcastle and Villa? Spurs have been a part of like the, the big six for a prolonged period of time. What's that based on though?

1:02:43Massive.

1:02:43Reev:Last 15 years. Well, income, position normally in the league. Right. The stadium, the stadium, their facilities, they've just become European champions. Oh, European champions. Using that argument, are we? European champions pretty recently in the early 2000s as well. Why? Why? Wasn't it early 2000s? What are you on about? No, it was like 70s. Why are you bringing up... No, it was a League Cup, wasn't it? No, what Cup? 2008, they won the League Cup. Which is the biggest trope of them? But we all have Spurs and six. I think that's the right answer, no? Yeah, I agree. They're the bottom of the big six.

1:03:15Reev:But defend me, lads. He's coming at us. No, I'm just trying to work out your reasoning because for your reasoning, for Newcastle being above Villa and Everton doesn't align with that. I think Spurs' stature in the modern game, their facilities, everything about the club they're in calm they are a bigger club than Newcastle I agree but it doesn't align with the other stuff they've just got go-kart under the stadium yeah that's pretty and electric charging I don't even look Liverpool man how is City bigger than Chelsea yeah I don't understand that one mate yeah I don't know what the fuck I was thinking about that one if I'm honest because even if you did recent success I did it very quickly I was thinking about success but then like yeah Chelsea I'd probably put Chelsea in third City I would put City above Arsenal why?

1:03:58why? Well, think about how... I understand it's quite short-term thinking, but the sheer amount that they've won, even when we were doing the best 11s of all time, we had like three cities in there. They've been sent to you. They've won the league how many times in a row? Treble winners. I'm sorry, but at a certain point, fucking like the current success of the club has to come into it. Yeah, but I think that's still a little while ahead there, isn't it? But you're making digs at Sunderland going, no, they can't sell out. And neither can City sometimes. I know, but I feel like... you will never get to the Emirates and it's not full.

1:04:29I feel like their overall like fucking income of trophies outweighs like their attendance. But Arsenal have won more than City. A lot more. It's really spanned back a little bit. But that's what history is.

1:04:39Reev:That's what it means. Maybe so guys. Football didn't only start in 2010. I will say though, City in the next 10 years will move on. Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah. No, I agree. I'm probably a bit premature, but if you look at... What, by a decade? If you do look at... You get premature. Arsenal you need to kick on and get some trophies because City are just coming for you faster thanks for that mate we need to get more trophies I'm glad we had the pep talk there well lads can we all calm down most FA Cups ever because thankfully we have the correct answer here comes the correct list I think Chelsea in 5th is crazy I agree I look at that and I'm like I don't know what the fuck I was a bit carsick I came in and I've done some mad shit damn if you put on the carsick mode on your phone you don't get carsick odds on Tom having Newcastle outside the top 10 What do you want Do you want to Place bets Let's have the real list No I reckon he's got Exactly 10th So that will be in the top 10 Come on Tom Where do you reckon I've got 10th I think 10th I don't think you have us In 9th or above Where do you think I've got Newcastle I think you'll I think he's 1 to 10 is 10 I know what he's doing He's going to put us 12th No I think you have 9th No he's put us 11th Now bang on 10th You'll have Forrest and Leeds Ahead of us I actually think That your top 10 Is the same as mine you'll have Forrest and Leeds ahead of us let's have a look at yours on the left one I think it's the same maybe Forrest and Leeds the other way around you're you're not far off at all yeah okay so Brentford correct thank you let's not do that every time I can't wait to see how many I've got right Brentford Bournemouth yep fuck Brighton yep whoa that's wrong they have to be down there Fulham I'm only one away Yes If I put Burnley Where he put Burnley 16th is Burnley Oh my god If only I put Burnley 16th I'd have a perfect list I've got two points At the moment 15th is Palace Oh my god We're cooking I've got two 14th is Wolverhampton Wondering Yes Wait if I put Burnley 16th I'd have a perfect list This is crazy 13th is West Ham Oh 12th is Sunderland Oh I thought he might be cheeky But Sunderland above us If he wanted 11th Nottingham Forest One away guys We're only one away Tenth Leeds Oh my god I'm going to get 12 points Ninth Newcastle Yes Okay Here we go Eighth Everton Oh come on Yes Come on Seventh Spurs No What the hell No we were so close Sixth Villa Port Twiz Spurs are bigger than Villa Fifth City Sorry you shook up the head Oh you just got City right Fourth Arsenal Oh my god I've got the top five there we go wait what do you mean I've got four third Chelsea no no you can't do that I mean it's only on eight points second Liverpool you've got like fucking five right first Man United yes mate I've got six out of 20 I've got eight points I've got so many right eight points eight points yeah yeah I think the content the contentious points I don't agree with your Villa and Spurs one yeah Villa Villa are a bigger fan base for sure I think I don't think so and they've won more and they've won a European no way Spurs have got whole of Korea yeah the entirety of Korea mate alright they've got an entire country yeah No, he's right.

1:07:51I'm correct. Villa have won the European Cup. Okay. So Spurs. The one. They've won a European Cup. The real one. Spurs have won a European Cup. The main one. Yeah, one trophy don't make you a bigger club.

1:08:02Reev:You can't start seeing the real one. One trophy don't make you a bigger club. You flip-flop all the time on the trophy thing. Also, let's put him up for real one because that was part of his whole argument at the end of the season anyway. You always defend the Conference League and all stuff. The... That's got to a Champions League final. The European Cup. Oh, Warren Trophy. Yeah, that's in two minutes. Yeah, second place. You're starting to flip-flop. Wait, wait. The most contentious part for me was Villa and Spurs. Well, you're wrong. Villa have won more historically. They've won the biggest competition possible.

1:08:27I think they've got a bigger fan base, especially in this country.

1:08:30Reev:No, not in Korea. They did have a bigger and better stadium. They don't anymore. I will concede that. Spurs do have a bigger income, and I think they're financially better. But it's close, Villa and Spurs. I just think Villa are very underrated. I think other than Korea, then, I think Villa have a bigger following worldwide. I disagree. Let's check the follower count Let's do it Oh here we go Just ask chat GBT But the thing is Even without No no no no Tottenham Hotspur Have a significantly Larger fan base Than Aston Villa Especially when measured By social media Followings Damn Spurs have a total Of 101.7 million Villa have 16 Fuck off That isn't right Six times the social reach Of Aston Villa That can't be right It is correct That cannot 16 million Hotspur's work I was like, he's always right, but the logic says he's wrong.

1:09:20Reev:Do you question Tom putting one of the big six outside of the top six? Do you know what then? I'll take the L on that. I thought Villa had a bigger fan base. No, Tom, that must be wrong. That can't be right. 16 million? 16.9. That's got to be false information. No, yeah, it's wrong. I trust Tom Garrett over Chat Ubi too. That can't be right. Well, it is. Yeah, over the entirety of the internet. He's right. The eye test. Yeah. Also, that's fucking career based. That's career tax. I think Aston... Izak has more followers than Aston Villa. Fuck off. I think so. They've got 4.4 million. I think O 'Nenny does, doesn't he?

1:09:56Reev:I'm loving this social media. Mate, I can't believe that. Spurs got 17 and a half on Instagram. Villa got four. That's mad. Mate, KSI's bigger than Aston Villa. And he was making the social media argument as well. I will take the L on that. I will happily take the L. I'm going to pick six. I'm sorry. I said to him. What did he say? No, don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. Whisper into the mic in case it didn't pick up. I whispered it into his one. I do anyway, sir. I think you put one of the big six outside of the top six. But he's flawed. Oh, that's actually worse than the Burnley shout.

1:10:28That actually might be worse. Is that worse than the Burnley shout? Fucking crazy. No, the Burnley shout. Common Tom L. Grenford are by far the smallest club in the league. I agree. By far.

1:10:38Reev:But Spurs are seven times bigger than that's ever. Common Tom L. They're not seven times bigger. There's a big gap in the big six and the rest of the table, mate. You might have had a howler. Might have had a howler. I know, that is a howler. I will accept that. That is definitely a howler. That's a big man right there. Yeah. Right, guys. Now, obviously, you lot like to cook us in the comments, don't you? Well, reverse. Uno reverse. Uno reverse card has been slapped down like things. Right, we have some things from you lot. So, first one is from... No, explain it better than that. Fucking hell.

1:11:11Reev:Guys, we are doing our followers' wildest football opinions. No, we are reacting to the wild opinions of you idiots. See, he does it right, you see. And also, we are going to be naming and shaming, so don't think it's anonymous because it's not Harrison Beckley. Chelsea will win the Prem twice before Arsenal win it again. I think that's a career tick. Disagree. I think they'll win the Prem before you. Yeah, not twice, though. Arsenal are going to win it this season, so that's a bit weird. I don't think that's crazy. I don't think that's that bad. I mean, no, it's a bit out there, but it's not madness.

1:11:44They're the best team in the world? Arsenal come second in the last three years.

1:11:48Reev:Yeah, second. That's not a win. They're therefore closer to winning the Premier than Chelsea are. Yeah, but you've been second. Liverpool finished the law again. They still won it before you. No, but it's still closer than Chelsea. It doesn't matter. You were closer than Liverpool. How many times were Liverpool second in the 30 years that you didn't win? A lot. Once or twice, maybe? No, a lot. If it was a competition by finishing second, you'd win hands down. That would be ludicrous. That's not how you win the trophy, though. Exactly. We're talking about winning, which you don't tend to do. You're not very good at that.

1:12:13Reev:Yeah. That World Cup tax is crazy. It'll change when you get a striker. Harrison, good shout, mate. Good shout. Right, next one. George Harmon. In terms of footballing ability and disregarding trophies, Kane is a top three striker of all time. No, he's not. That's silly. That means you've got to look at Lewandowski, R9. Suarez. Shut up. Rooney. Also, disregarding trophies. Yeah, Benzema. In terms of footballing ability. I agree where he had like he had he was very unique in the term of how he could drop deep and he would like link in in a different way to the team but like it's such a high fucking list it's like who you're leaving out I think in terms of all time he could squeeze into the top 10 maybe that's a better shout I think he's in the top 10 I think he would be in the top 10 of all time Pelé Van Basten I think to say Harry Kane could be in the top 10 is what you mean by all time he's since 2010 well I can't speak on Pelé personally can you?

1:13:10Yeah, well you know about Pele and you would have seen clips of Pele. Sorry, when was the last time you watched Pele? That isn't what we're on about. We used to have an educated opinion on it. You have an educated opinion? Have you watched Pele? I've watched Pele play football, yes. You've seen his highlights in the world's highlights. He's one of the youngest players to win the World Cup. Everyone knows Pele is one of the best players of all time. I agree. I agree and I'm not saying he's missing out, I'm just saying we can hardly speak on him. Well there we go then, listen, there's no point seeing them.

1:13:40So let's not talk about all time then. Let's just talk about in the last 10 years.

1:13:43Reev:Also allegedly scored all those goals. Yeah, he is a fraud. He is a fraud. Allegedly. That comes into it a little bit.

1:13:52Reev:She141196 says Fergie's United wouldn't come close to the modern top half. Shut up. Move on. It's just silly. Ronaldo Rooney. I think that's someone trying to be fucking... Depends which period you're trying to are. The second one's... Actually, the second one... Leicester won a fucking Premier League but the 99 United team wouldn't. Yeah, shut your fucking mouth. Well 08 07 That's Ferguson United as well You've gone back in time No I know I know It depends It depends what He's implying Is he talking about I think you've got to go Further back I think you've got to go back To like 1950s United Wouldn't go back Athletic abilities You're acting like Oh I think what he's trying To imply is you know Some of the weaker United sides that won The Premier League Maybe they're the ones That he's talking about In question for this example But we're also acting This guy's acting like 2007 like These are still elite athletes The problem is He was at the club for so long which United is he implying when the conflict is?

1:14:42Reev:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, Shea Butter you better get back in contact. Shea Butter? Ben Boyes and Sean Bailey they've come in duo to take you on. Sunderland will finish above Man United. That's fucking crazy. You need help. You should put money on that just in case it comes in. I feel like Sunderland's making a big mistake in the transfer window as well where it's like they've just I feel like teams coming up now should be getting Premier League experience. You're keeping up to date with Sunderland's transfer window. I just see that they keep spending 25 million quid on players from like different leagues.

1:15:10I just see, I see no experience. Haven't they just signed a Dinger who's a Premier. He's shit. Do you rate him? You've just said Premier League experience. Do you rate him though? He's a great sign. Yeah, a Dinger's classmate.

1:15:20Reev:That's a great sign. No, no, no, don't flip it on. Do I rate him? You just said they need to sign Premier League experience. He's a Premier, he's been playing in the Premier League. Yeah, he is good. Not too, good. Well, okay. Premier League experience. Premier League experience. We can. We can.

1:15:37We can. have been a good one. Henderson would have been good on a three. And where's Henderson gone? Well, they obviously wouldn't get him. I think what I'm saying is like... So it's hard for them to buy established Premier League players because the better Premier League sides are going to sign them. There's three teams that went down. There's good players in those teams who can go. Like who? Diblin. What, he's had one year in the Prem? Yeah, but he's very... We know he's good. We know he can do it at a good level. What I'm talking about was like, see a long sophomore to Leeds. I think that's a very clever signing.

1:16:04I think those are the signings that will keep you up.

1:16:06Reev:I think Adinga's a great signing. Don't get me wrong, some of these players coming in from different leagues, they might hit the ground running and be really good, but more likely than not, normally, from a team coming up and getting promoted, they don't do well. You know, given your Man United hatred agenda, who would you like to see go down more out of these two? Given Sunderland will be playing you the following year. Genuinely, I'd rather Man United go down and Sunderland, because what I do, now I've dealt with it, I'd rather play Sunderland and have the derby back. Imagine how hilarious it would be, Man United going down Portland have bought Diara They've spent some money From Strasbourg 31 mil Adingra Enzo Le Fay From Roma 23 mil That was last That was last Talby From Club Bruges Right Siddiqui Also can I just say Everything you've just said Is completely wrong Lewis Like And flawed Like The last teams To come up And be successful And stay in the league Weren't buying players From Premier League established Brighton Have got a great Scouting network Out in South America Brentford By foreign Unknown players Nottingham Forest did the same.

1:17:05I don't understand what your argument was. That's actually what Sunderland are doing. I think, like you said, they've done it and they've done it well and they've been very successful. But do you think Sunderland's scour network is to that level? I don't know. It's like, well, this is what I'm saying. I've got no idea. I don't know any of those players. I'm not saying there's no evidence where it hasn't worked off. It could easily work out. I think it's just, you might have worse results getting English, not English, but like Premier League proven players, but it'll be more reliable compared to an outside player where they might hit the ground run and be unbelievable.

1:17:32but I think it's a high risk and if that's their strategy fair enough but I think what Leeds are doing they're being linked with like Muniz Muniz from Fulham they've got long staff in they've been linked with Paul I feel like being linked with more reliable players but Dinger's better than Muniz I don't really Dinger at all but again I don't yeah why just my opinion

1:17:53Reev:moving on to Callum Sandeys Mbappe will never win the Ballon d 'Or agree agree probably definitely agree if he can't win it now when's he going to do it really given how good people are coming through the ring I mean he's not going to do it who's like Real Madrid win the Champions League win La League he's got a high chance winning Balenciennes they won't with him in the team he's shit they won't he's a Dabo Traore Real Madrid won't win it it's crazy mate add that to that fucking use I don't think Madrid will win the Champions League with Mbappe I'll take a bet on that okay he's going to be at Real Madrid for the next 10 years so yeah I don't think I think Madrid are falling back into the trap they did in the early 2000s 100 quid 100 quid The next one I really like I bet that last time doing bad belief for Madrid I think they're falling into the trap of the early 2000s they're not a team they're just individuals and he's part of the issue of that What are you looking at?

1:18:55He's doing his fucking FPL

1:18:57Reev:I'm not playing now It's worse than him on the wrist It starts in a month. I'm not even... You're a weirdo. You're literally not even playing it. But is he working? I am working. Right, the next one. He was more interested in it than I was. Because you distracted me. Kyle Flanagan says Scott McTominay is better than Erdogan. Wrong. Right. Let's break it down. When it mattered, when he was in the Premier League, Scott McTominay rose... No, I'm just putting out his argument. I'm just putting out his argument. He rose to a big occasion. Did he? What occasions were there? When Man United needed last minute goals?

1:19:27When? What big occasions were they? Watford no he did it Lord I can't remember who was against your mandator affecting it again yeah he's not better than Ndegard

1:19:38Reev:he's had a better season I think he is he's a Serie A player of the season what are you doing he's a Serie A player of the season did he win that yes put some fucking respect on his name this is what I mean this is why he put him on my underrated he's not better than him why not season before you signed for Napoli last United season you got 10 goals 3 assists and 43 appearances for United. Most from the bench? Erdegaard. Most from the bench? Yeah, which is indicative that he couldn't get into the team. He should have been in the team though. That's the issue. 11 goals, 11 assists. Yeah, Erdegaard's better than...

1:20:09Serie A played the team. You're looking at Man United. You look at his season now. Look at his season at Napoli. Why don't you? And see how good he's been. He has had a great year to be fair to him. Look at the Napoli season. He's played well. I just said that. He's played well,

1:20:20Reev:but it says he's better. Yeah. So six goals, 11 assists for Erdegaard. 7.3 rated. MVP in La Liga 13 goals forces 7.4 rated I mean it's not out this world it's not crazy I don't know I wouldn't say it's crazy but Erdogan's definitely a better footballer than McTominay this is an interesting one from Sue Clark the three promoted teams will get less than 40 points combined they didn't even do that this year did they I think the promoted teams are better diabolically shit this year so we have a look Premier League this year, they've got a total of... It's up for 46. I'm not sure. I don't think they've fucking...

1:21:00Reev:Southampton got 12, Ipswich 22, Leicester 25. They got like... So Leicester and Ipswich on their own got 40. Yeah, that won't be right. Yeah, that's crazy. Liverpool 2018 to 2020 is in the top 10 teams of all time. Was that in anyone's list? We didn't put them in, did we? I don't think it is. Hence it not being in my list. Yeah, that's crazy. Is it correct? Didn't they win the Champions League during that? Or did they not? Which year did they win? That was 21, 22. Follow, what? It was 19 before COVID. It was in 2019 against Spurs. It was in Madrid. Yeah, 2019. 2019. Tom's going to hear it this next one.

1:21:37Reev:But like, bear in mind, we missed out on Bayern's treble winning side in the top 10 as well. Sex topple, innit? I didn't. They won six trophies that year. Bayern did? Yeah. Fucking hell. I didn't, I had them in. Okay, Tom. Did you? Eden Hazard. This is from Albrand. Eden Hazard. In 2020, they won six trophies. Oh, 2020. Yeah, sorry. This one's... You need to listen to this one here. This is from J. Albrand. Eden Hazard has no right to be in a conversation with Salah. He should be compared to Sterling, says Aaron. And then Sterling is closer to Hazard than Hazard is to Salah, says Albrand. Oh, I agree with that, yeah.

1:22:16Reev:Also, that's disrespectful to Sterling, I feel like. That is a bit, yeah. Sterling, he's a fucking... One of the all-time guys. He won 20 million for him, but now... Yeah, that's absolutely stupid. I think I understand the point of the longevity, but then Hazard did it for like five years. Exactly. It's a long time. He didn't, he did it for longer than that. It's like eight years. And he's got the most, doesn't he got the most player of the month? Yep. And the most man of the matches. He's got the most player of the month in a league behind Messi. Do you think it's just these last two seasons that's like, for some people, just made them underrated, Sterling forgotten that is actual best.

1:22:47Reev:People do. It's almost like a player's ageing a little bit. He's been playing football since you're 16. Yeah, it's... And the thing is, he just looks quite young still as well. So Sterling. So you forget that he is getting on. But also, the Hazard one makes me laugh because when Hazard was 18, he was taking Lille to win the league and be the best player in the league. Where was Salah? Playing for some team in Egypt. So we could do it both. Ends of the spectrum that Salah's had a better end to his career, but Hazard had a way better start to his. Salah couldn't even get in the Chelsea team over Hazard.

1:23:20So it's...

1:23:21Reev:Right. Cal Nid Dini Ronaldinho Canaldini Ronaldinho is the most overrated footballer ever two good seasons Joga Benito tax two good seasons shut up mate that's crazy also Theo's inner child he signed for Barca what in 2002 he was unreal at PSG before that he had like four or five top top level seasons at Mid-Balach and he was still decent at Milan He won the World Cup with Brazilian 0-2. When he signed for Flamengo, by the way, in one season he got 21 goals. Flamengo? Flamengo? When he went from AC Milan to Flamengo, 21 goals and 52 appearances. That's when he scored the fucking freaking under the wall.

1:24:05Reev:Do you even like football at this point? If you're trying to call Ronaldinho over here, just like... No, everyone loves him. By the way, I'm not annoyed if he thinks Ronaldinho's the most overrated footballer ever. Two good seasons is wrong. He hasn't had two good seasons, it's just not true. He also made millions of people fall in love with him. That's probably why he's calling him overrated. Stop being like, just enjoy him, you know? Do you know what my question is? You know, like, Ronaldinho tends to be like our age answer of, oh, he made me fall in love. Who is this, like, say in 15 years, who are the kids going to say, oh, he made me fall in love with football?

1:24:39Salah. Guardiola. Messi still? It's going to be Jamal, isn't it? Surely.

1:24:44Reev:Jamal, Parma. Parma. Do you reckon? Pape? No. Not that fucking Not that fucking roadrunner Me Like Surely they're not going to say like Probably Salah It'll be the It'll be the techie The silky players Clunky Fernando Silva Dying up man It's a dying pre-day Not really Alexander Isaac Clunky Saka Saka In England Surely not Madweki What because of all the corners And the silky cut inside Yeah man Any more more. there could have been more because we saw them. We should have got more actually. We should have got more. We need to roast you little asses. Sorry. What? You made it to the end. Well done you.

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