*HEATED* Arsenal Are CRUMBLING, The Top 10 Worst Managers This Season & Ranking PL Teams On Entertainment

7 Apr 2026 · 1 h 26 min · 31 chapters

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In short

Arsenal’s recent slump and “bottle” fears (including losses to Southampton and City pressure), whether Arteta should be judged if Arsenal win only the Premier League (or nothing), and debate over who’s worst/most likely to win in the FA Cup/Champions League. The episode also ranks the top 10 worst Premier League managers this season and discusses other matches (West Ham vs Leeds FA Cup semi-final qualification, Liverpool/Salah/Arsenal-style criticism, Chelsea/Rosinha/Enzo controversies).

Guests

The transcript doesn’t name the speakers clearly, but it’s a panel of multiple football fans/commentators debating Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea, West Ham, and managerial sackings. One speaker repeatedly argues for Arsenal winning the league and reaching the Champions League final; another is more skeptical and pushes “Arteta out if no trophies” scenarios.

Key claims

Arsenal are “crumbling” and can’t score consistently; Arteta’s style is too cautious/set-piece heavy; City’s momentum and mentality make them hard to stop; Arsenal’s Champions League run is “easier” but one-off games vs Barcelona/Sporting are risky; if Arsenal win only the league, some call it a “disgrace” given the “quad” expectations.

Notable examples

Arsenal’s 7-0 Chelsea FA Cup weekend results discussion; Arsenal missing Timber and Saka; Southampton upset; West Ham-Leeds FA Cup comeback to reach pens; West Ham’s relegation battle context; manager ranking includes Scott Parker, Eddie Howe, Nuno (West Ham), and Ruben Amorim.

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Arsenal's Recent Performance

1:04 to 3:18

The hosts discuss Arsenal's recent struggles and match outcomes.

“Are we really going to accept the fact that he just said he's one of Britain's best ever footballers?”

Pressure on Arsenal

3:18 to 6:24

The conversation shifts to the mounting pressure on Arsenal and their title hopes.

“So that's not all the players he recalled?”

Debating Arsenal's Season

6:24 to 11:00

A debate ensues about Arsenal's potential successes and failures this season.

“The compounded interest of losses, losses, losses.”

Champions League Prospects

11:00 to 14:01

The discussion revolves around Arsenal's chances in the Champions League.

“Like, expectations from Christmas, like, they changed from the start of the season.”

Arsenal's Recent Struggles

14:01 to 16:15

Analysis of Arsenal's recent performances and tactical approach.

“I've watched you batter Bayern Munich in the start of the season.”

Arteta's Future at Arsenal

16:16 to 17:14

Discussion on Arteta's position and potential outcomes of the season.

“I don't think he'd be a good choice for Arsenal.”

Champions League Aspirations

17:15 to 19:34

Examining Arsenal's chances in the Champions League and challenges ahead.

“But however, if, the big if, if we don't, then I just think you have to just look at them and go, look, lads, maybe this has, you've taken us as far as you can.”

The Challenge of Consistency

19:35 to 21:04

Debate on maintaining performance and dealing with competition in the league.

“My point is, over two legs, yes, you're too strong for those Ilka team.”

FA Cup Draw Insights

21:05 to 22:24

Reflections on the FA Cup draw and the implications for teams involved.

“Like, next season, there's every chance Chelsea could push for the league.”

Salah's Future and Transfer Speculations

22:25 to 23:42

Discussion on Mohamed Salah's potential transfer and future moves.

“Don't write off one of the most informed sides in the country.”
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Player Attitudes and Fan Relations

23:43 to 26:06

Exploration of player behavior towards fans and its impact.

“If he goes to a slower-paced league and like...”

Coaching Changes and Future Predictions

26:07 to 28:00

Predictions on coaching changes and the future of various teams.

“Even just thinking back to when I was, like the early 2000s, when I was a player.”

Arnie Slott and Coaching Changes

28:00 to 29:06

The hosts discuss the future of Arnie Slott and potential managerial changes.

“He's like, when he left to Arsenal, he's like, this is the...”

Player Performance and Team Dynamics

29:06 to 30:24

Discussion on player performances, specifically Salah and Chelsea's roster issues.

“This week's going to be big as well Who's they got?”

Player Interviews and Media Perceptions

30:24 to 32:46

The conversation revolves around player interviews, translations, and media narratives.

“Also, has this Enzo thing just been like, I don't like him anyway but has it been lost in translation?”

West Ham vs Leeds: FA Cup Highlights

32:46 to 35:09

Highlights from the FA Cup match between West Ham and Leeds, including player performances.

“if Chelsea were winning every game but the fact they're just in a bit of shit if they were winning every game he wouldn't probably be saying this would he?”

West Ham's Relegation Battle

35:09 to 37:27

Hosts discuss the implications of the recent matches on West Ham's future in the league.

“There were some good fouls on him as well.”

Ranking the Worst Managers of the Season

37:27 to 39:48

The hosts begin ranking the top ten worst managers of the season, sharing insights on their performances.

“but seeing that yesterday, seeing that the other day...”

Debating Managerial Choices

39:48 to 42:00

The hosts discuss various managerial decisions and the challenges faced by the coaches.

“And three of them A third of the managerial changes Have been from one club Not in Forest True They've sacked three alone Haven't they?”

Debating Managerial Performance: A Heated Discussion

42:00 to 43:31

The hosts engage in a heated debate about various football managers and their performances this season.

“Pure absolute ignorance And stupidity That he forced that club To be terrible You got sacked When they were in sixth position I think it's like he tried hard to be a terrible manager.”

Ranking the Worst Managers of the Season

43:31 to 45:51

The hosts continue to rank the worst football managers, discussing specific cases and their records.

“Yeah, no, but he didn't have much time to improve it by further.”

Arteta and the Standards of Management

45:51 to 48:01

A deep dive into Mikel Arteta's season, with discussions on expectations and managerial standards.

“Everyone's waiting on Theo's list with bated breath.”

Expectations vs. Reality: Managers Under Scrutiny

48:01 to 51:06

The hosts dissect the expectations placed on various managers and how they measure up against their performance.

“He has had five years, a billion pounds, a dog, and he's still not won a thing.”

Final Thoughts on Managerial Rankings

51:06 to 56:01

The hosts conclude their discussion on managerial rankings, reflecting on the arguments made throughout.

“You said Scott Parkers are the best season in Arteta.”

Debate on Manager Rankings and Performances

56:01 to 59:01

The hosts engage in a heated debate about the performance of various football managers this season, discussing specific teams and managers' effectiveness.

“I think we'll actually pick up our form at the end of the season now.”

Analyzing Premier League Team Entertainment Value

59:01 to 1:02:59

The hosts discuss and rank Premier League teams based on their entertainment value this season, showcasing differing opinions.

“And he's great and Potter Won a game Lads he's Australian Leave him alone And Dij came in And started getting results Exactly straight away He's Australian What?”

Final Thoughts and Ranking Teams

1:02:59 to 1:10:01

The discussion wraps up with final thoughts on team rankings and their entertainment factor, leading to predictions and comments about future matches.

“Yeah, and I forgot, like, Glasner and slot.”

Ranking Teams Based on Entertainment Value

1:10:01 to 1:13:49

The hosts discuss various Premier League teams and their entertainment value, ranking them based on their performances and style of play.

“but yeah yeah anyway 7th Brentford now again only because Brentford are great and they all punched above their weight and it's fun but the football is pretty negative.”

Debate on Excitement in Football

1:13:50 to 1:18:25

A lively debate ensues about the excitement and entertainment factor of different teams, particularly focusing on Arsenal, Newcastle, and Manchester United.

“14th under how or 6th under a ball with pragmatic manager?”

Evaluating the Current Season's Entertainment

1:18:26 to 1:23:58

The hosts evaluate the overall entertainment of the current Premier League season, discussing team performances and including fan engagement.

“Like every time they're on and they just continuously are shit.”

Arsenal and the Battle for Entertainment

1:24:01 to 1:25:41

The discussion revolves around the current state of the Premier League, focusing on Arsenal's performance and the entertainment value of various teams.

“We could have done with a tighter title race, I will say that.”
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0:52Welcome to breaking news here live at Pitchside.

1:00Today is Tuesday the 7th of April And known footballer Who causes many deaths around the world Every time he scores Has officially retired And Ramsey

1:17One of Welsh's One of Wales' greatest ever footballers One of Britain's greatest ever footballers Where was he just at? Was he just a three-year-old? for a bit. He was in Mexico for a bit, wasn't he? Was he? At Tigres. That's quite cool. Are we really going to accept the fact that he just said he's one of Britain's best ever footballers? Yeah, he's like top thousand. Maybe top 50. I suppose technically that does make you a bit. He's in the one percentile, isn't he? He was quite cool. Was he? Was he? He was quite cool. Good fit looking lad. Oh, sorry. Oh, okay. I don't know how you lot feel about football, but obviously being a championship fan, you have football all the time.

1:54I feel like the Premier League not been here for like months. I feel like it's been forever. I quite enjoyed the weekend dedicated to the FA Cup though. I actually, I see Mark Goldbridge saying, it's not good enough. This proves that it's not good enough for a weekend at all. You've seen some brilliant fucking results. Fantastic results. Unbelievable. Mate, the West Ham game was fucking class. West Ham lead. That's like generally one of the best games of the season. Smashing down Liverpool as well. Yeah, Chelsea 7-0. And that was it. I think that was all the games. I think it was only three quarter finals.

2:24I think that was all the game. I don't know how it works, actually. Does he need to get... If you now go on to not win the FA Cup, would you sack him? The Premier League, would you sack him? What a quad. What a quad. Remember when you sat here and honestly said... You actually got a sneaker kind of going, I'll take a treble. Literally, before the podcast recorded, there was a laugh and they were like, yeah, I'll take a treble. Yeah. It's like, you'll take what you're fucking given. Honestly, I would love to twist a knife in at the moment, but I feel like the result speaks for itself. I did actually see after the league cup, I don't know if you remember.

2:56Like, that was so big because it ramps up so much pressure for the next one. I agreed with you at the time. And I did not expect them to do it. No, I didn't. And now, oh, the pressure on you in the league now. Sabah are on fire. They haven't lost a game since January. They're on fire. They're one of the most informed teams in the country. Mate, the pressure on you is in the league now. I'm standing by it. I don't think you win anything. Also, all our players are actually injured. No, they're not. Yes, they are. They're not playing tonight. No Timber or Saka. They're actually legit injured. So that's not all the players he recalled?

3:23No, all of them. Half of them are not even there, mate. Honestly, they're all gone. They're all... I actually don't remember the football match. What should we even say about this? I don't want to go over the same ground of laughing at her. They were so bad. And what was even more worrying for an Arsenal fan is when you had a brief spell of dominance and you scored, then they were back on top. They could have beat you 4-1. They're the better side, though, aren't they? Genuinely, this is the thing. like, I honestly think we're in for the this is like, do you know when Avengers you think that's okay?

3:57I don't know what we're doing the thing is, do you know when Marvel built for like 10 years, like Avengers, and they kept building and all the films getting better, then they had Endgame lads, this is fucking Endgame it's going to be the most amazing bottle ever, it's going to be cinematic history and we're all here to witness it, where arse will somehow go from a quad to win a nothing and the amount of stuff on this pod alone, all the clips Liverpool also did the same and they ended up with one trophy. No, they didn't talk about it as much as you lot. They ended up with two that year. And they also weren't in the position you have been in.

4:30First of all, Tom, it's only three points. Not many good teams left in the FA Cup in a final. And in the Champions League, got the easiest run ever to the final. The thing is, Arsenal fans have actually been quite rattle-proof this season because they've all sort of accepted, and I think the majority of fans have accepted, they are going to get something. I think we're going to see a big shift now in the demeanour of a lot of them when they realise, shit, they might get nothing. You literally might have nothing. I think you're wrong. I think Arsenal will actually win the Premier League title. I still think they'll win the Premier League.

5:02I think we will do that. Not because of you, though. Because of the others around you not being good enough. But if City beat us... City aren't going to win every game, I don't think. This is where you might be wrong. I'm not saying... I just said I don't... This is where I think you might be wrong because I actually think City now go on to win every single fucking football match I've ever played. But they haven't shown that all season. Yeah, but they have been showing it recently. I think you will see a wobble out of Arsenal now. Because they are now getting bigger. I'm not saying Arsenal are going to win every game but they don't have to.

5:27The way they put aside Liverpool at the weekend was disgusting. Liverpool are crap. Yeah, I know. Every team they play and they just beat them down. They're just getting better and better and better. They're like peaking in time for a race. This is cemented now though. This is cemented. No matter what, Arsenal are definitely playing for a draw in that City game now. I've never been more sure three points gained. Like, the fucking bang in it. Like, genuinely. I think the Bournemouth game is far more important than the City game. How have you allowed this to happen? Because it sets... We're still nine points clear.

5:57Also, what the fuck are you on about? Because it sets the tone for the rest of the season. If we go ahead and continue the loss, it compounds. You can't just say that... You can say that every week when it sets the tone. The Man City game is the bigger game, isn't it? No, because at the moment, we've lost two in a row. So that means we need to... Bournemouth isn't the bigger game between Man City and Bournemouth. We need to win tonight. If we lose tonight, Doesn't matter. What's a bigger game? Man City away or Bournemouth at home? Yeah, well, obviously, when you put it on paper like that, it's City away.

6:23But my point is, it's compounding interest. What is your point? The compounded interest of losses, losses, losses. We need to fix up. We need to stop it. Yeah, well. We need to stop it before the City game. I've just realised, if we can beat you and, like, ruin your league title hopes twice, we'll have a Joel Lytton picture. We can get another one. You honestly think Newcastle United can beat us? Oh, mate, we can play for starters. I've had to beat you. I honestly... Yeah, but they're more... What are you doing there? They're more in form than fucking Newcastle. Yeah, but they're in the championship.

6:48They're outside the playoffs. Or the Corpium is coming out. They're not even a top six championship club. Theo, describe just what has gone wrong the last few weeks of Arsenal. Come on. Why have you got to be so good? It's the same thing as every year. I was so drunk. I don't even remember watching the game. It's the same thing as every year. Do you know what? We actually just can't score. You're crap. Good job you've not got a 60-minute striker then, innit? You can't create. What did you say, sorry? Good job you've not got a£60 million striker. What are you doing right now? Why are you attacking me now?

7:18Is this a period? He's asking questions why he's not attacking. The issue he's got with Jokred. Jokred came on and scored, but he didn't start. He's shit. He's not for Sweden. I thought these were the games he was supposed to be classed in. It's all right being good for Sweden when you're playing Timbuktu. He's such an average footballer. It's unbearable. He changed the game when he came on. The players don't need to change the game. Stop that. He's such a tough watch. he can't trap a ball he can't hold the ball up he gets in decent positions and he can finish at times that's it but the thing is is anyone actually I know it's like you didn't expect it really but is anyone realistically surprised by that I'm not sat here shocked because that's the stat that's on this sheet here it shows statistically over every season you always always get progressively worse and choke the end of the season like without fail like I think it's on screen now but September win rate is 78 % and then at the end of the season you're looking at 52 down to 41 in April You've actually read that wrong.

8:12That isn't right. You read it as that was in order of the months, but you haven't. You've just read the win percentage. Yeah, you actually read that wrong. Oh, shit. Yeah. Why did they do it that often? May is actually our third strongest. Yeah, also just to let you know, June isn't in the season. So what? This is a stupid stat. Why didn't we mess up? You just saw, all he saw was the win percentage. Yeah, let's fucking go at Arsenal. Yeah. May, which is the end of the season, is statistically our third strongest season. And March, yeah. But usually it's done by then. Yeah. April is the big one and it really April's the big one and it's also the big one for other competitions as well because the season usually finishes what May the 5th or something finals game's on 25th isn't it is it yeah it's late this year 24th I always think April though is when April's like everything's won and lost it's cut competitions as well because April's the main one it's cut competitions along with that as well it's like building momentum or getting like your heart broken in certain semi-finals and finals be honest if you say percentage wise how confident are you in winning the Prem now 100 % that just can't be true it can't be do you think Arsenal still win the league?

9:16I do yeah but I wouldn't say 100 % I think you're more likely not to I do see a world where you wobble City do win every I don't think this is going to happen but I don't think it's like beyond the realms of possibility City win every game you lose there and wobble against Bournemouth at home or you should be worried about tonight like genuinely like we're actually better in the Champions League the amount of pressure on this team now where, by the way, some of them were so, like you could tell they were all a bit of smug, especially Gabriel, who wouldn't be that smug if he still had his shit hairline.

9:47And then all of a sudden now, the quads off the table, you're probably not going to win the Champions League despite the ease. If you don't win the Champions League, that's a disgrace with the run that you have in. Come on, man. That's not fair. You're one of the best teams in the world. That is all I've been hearing all season. And you have a big gift in the Champions League is not a disgrace, is it? Okay, okay. Come on, be realistic here now. You have never been more online to win the Champions League than this season. The run you's half. What about 06? I don't remember these times. Lost in the final.

10:12Yeah, but it was against Barcelona. You are, you should be one of the best teams in the world. You keep talking about how you're better than Bayern and all these, you spank them. You have the easiest run through ever to the final. I do think we will get to the final and win the Champions League. I don't think you'll be a disgrace if we don't win it. I don't think you get past Barca, mate. So you think that'll be a disgrace to lose to Barcelona? I think it's a disgrace that this team's leaving only with one trophy from where you, the standpoint you are we're at and how we talk about quads so it's a disgrace if Arsenal only win the league a disgrace after 22 years if you still win the league it is 100 % a fucking disgrace yes the matter that's not what he said that's not what I said he just said league there you said if Arsenal leave the season with one trophy no he said league he said one trophy you said with one trophy and I said if Arsenal win the league if you don't win more than one trophy this season I do think it's a disgrace no you don't what are you on about from the position that you were in you were talking about quads you were talking about trebles just because fans are talking about as a season if Arsenal win the Premier League is it a successful team I'm talking about a fucking domestic tournament I think it's a is it now a disgrace that you've not done that Newcastle's season is a disgrace yeah you think it's a disgrace that you haven't won the domestic tournament I think our entire season is a disgrace at the start of the season if you were told Arsenal will win the Premier League and that's it would we have all gone that's a good season 100 % expectations change though as the season goes on but half people put down Man's League At the start of the season, we thought Liverpool were going to be an absolute force.

11:39Like, expectations from Christmas, like, they changed from the start of the season. You can't then, like... So why is it now a disgrace if Arsenal... Because you went out to Southampton, that in itself is genuinely a disgrace. But you said it's a disgrace if Arsenal win the Premier League. The cup competitions have been underwhelming and poor for Arsenal. But if they win the Premier League, Lewis, that's a great season. That's an unbelievable season. We also... You've gone too far the other way. Like, you still talk about winning the League Cup. You're not even the champions. I know, but we're in a different bracket to Arsenal.

12:07I know, but winning the Premier League is a different bracket to winning the League Cup. It's the pinnacle of football. And also, Arsenal still, there's every chance. I know you think we're going to lose to Barcelona or lose to Sporting. There's still every chance we actually win the Champions League and the Premier League. There's every chance. If we decided to start the season, Arsenal get to a League Cup final and win the Premier League, we'd have all gone a good season. Regardless of this. Since the Football League started in 1888, only on 13 occasions has a team won two or more trophies. So it doesn't happen.

12:33It'll be pretty damn successful. It doesn't happen much. It doesn't happen much. And actually, how many of them have been Man City of recent years? Twice. Yeah. Chelsea have done it, haven't they? That's including the league. That's including the league. That's including having won the league. Oh, including the league. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, so not like... Yeah, yeah. Not like double club. Is it league? Yeah, I just think, look, I think luckily for you, you'll get it done in the Premier League purely out of the gap's too big now. You won't win the Champions League. I saw a good question, Tom, the other day.

13:03You've got no chance You know how everyone Say like if Arsenal Win the Premier League What not It's the worst Seeds never Right Everyone's saying It's the crappiest But what happens If Man City win Is it still the worst Why does that Suddenly change It'll be up there With one of the worst Why is it I'm confused Why it is one of the worst Because the quality Is just Maybe not City Just because They're just more It's entertainment Value isn't it Arsenal aren't A good watch Well we'll get to that Later as well Won't we Yeah like Arsenal Like I said this the other week you can be beaten in one off games and since then you've lost to fucking Southampton and City like that's why you won't win the Champions League I think I just do you think we get through against Sporting?

13:44yes and then lose to Barcelona if they get through I could see you beating Barca get to the final and lose in the final I'm still picking Barca to win the whole thing but they're very susceptible defensively Barca but you don't have the firepower that's what I mean like genuinely your attack it is weird how lacklustre it is for the state, where you are, and just like football. This is like the money, I can kind of get, no, I do get why Arteta makes you play the way you play, and Arsenal have always been said to have a soft underbelly, or they're too easily bullied, and now you're not, but I think he's gone too far the other way, of, you just, you play, you do play for set pieces, even against Southampton, it's like, why are you playing this way?

14:29I've watched you batter Bayern Munich in the start of the season. You are capable of playing that way. And against Southampton, I don't think you still should play that way. I think there is some sort of professional pride in football where against Southampton, can you not have a bit more of a go? Do you have to still be fucking... I don't know. I think you're really... If you win the league, yes, I think you're the worst champions ever purely out of watching and the style of play. If City and Algon and win the league and win every game, because they're probably going to have to. They'd probably say no, they're probably not the worst, but they'd be one of the worst just because the league's poor.

15:05Theo, do you think the last few weeks... He's still feeling 91 points. You're not going to though? Could though. Do you think the last few weeks has shown that there's a few players now who the time at Arsenal is up? Yes. Somebody like Martinelli. Yeah, I said this at the start of the season. I got asked who should even... I put Martinelli down. A lot of people criticise me, but he has had some important moments this season for us actually but I just think everyone's time does eventually come to an end even though he has had important moments this season he's not doing it consistently you attack the ref yeah should be a ban that maybe not good enough like the fact that Dalman once again not good enough Dalman was probably our brightest spark against Southampton that shouldn't be the case it's realistic do you know what I mean I can't believe I'm sorry I can't believe you lost to Southampton it actually is stupid you's are I do hate you but I love you because you do bring me some happiness ultimately right it's not been a good two weeks let's lay our cards out shall we it's not been a good two weeks it's not been a good two weeks however if you go on to not win the prem what do you think I will never be on this show again no what do you come on I'll never say my mind let's actually have a football discussion what do you actually do we're not going to not win the league in terms of Arteta what do you think if you don't win the league entertain the possibility what about the Champions League if you win nothing if you win nothing come the end of the season say you get to the final of the Champions League and lose the Premier League on the last day what do you do what do you think if you don't win the Premier League and don't win the Champions League now you finish the season with zero trophies what do you think should happen to Arteta do you go again or do you get rid hello is that Ancelotti yeah could we please get you in please after the World Cup that would be fantastic I don't even think Ancelotti would be a good choice.

16:56What? I don't think he'd be a good choice for Arsenal. That's your answer. Essentially. You'd get rid of Arteta. If we don't win a trophy, I think... He's like a superstar manager. It's frustrating, Tom, because you see Arsenal, we have been building, we have been building and culminate into this season. And I do think we are going to win a trophy, so I think everything will be fine. I think we do win. I genuinely think we're going to win. Yeah, we're being... We're being like... The opposite, complete opposite. I can bet that. But however, if, the big if, if we don't, then I just think you have to just look at them and go, look, lads, maybe this has, you've taken us as far as you can.

17:26And maybe, that's how I look at how at Newcastle. Maybe we need a serial winner. Not even a serial winner, just a winner. Just a winner. Yeah, just a win. Win some it. I think it gets to that point where you think. Because also, isn't Luis Enrique's free in the summer, isn't he? I think that'll be like, I don't think Ancelotti's. Because Manuel and Luis Enrique. Yeah, but Ancelotti would go, Ancelotti's almost different to something we've never done before. No, but he's more like, he manages like the big superstar name. You just haven't actually got like Superstar That's like a bit of It was a bit of an anomaly But no but Someone coming in We've never done that It's a completely different group He's right though Lewis is right Ancelotti does usually work with And has done The top top players in the world You don't have any He wouldn't be able to get Like the best out of like Atrocer But like if you had a manager Who could really build a good system And coach players well He'd get good Like more out of your players I don't Yeah I think Ancelotti I think Ancelotti's a great manager Not a great Not a top coach Well that's what Bill himself said that about him But someone of that ilk of like someone who could just like the fucking big dog who's won fucking loads basically I think.

18:26And we are linked with Kovackele. Kovackele. Kovackele. That'd be a great signing. That'd be a fantastic signing because I feel like he is that ilk of player who is... Yeah he could be the missing piece I suppose. Do you know what I mean? Then he's still crossing to that big ogre in the middle. I can't believe this is like what we're talking about right now. We're being a bit facetious here. I think Arsenal will win the league and I think we will get to a final of the Champions League? I think you don't think you'll win the Champions League either. I think we'll get to the final. You've just witnessed in big one-off games you're quite easily beatable.

18:59I think we'll get to the final. Why? You just said that as well. You think we'll get to the final. I think you will but only because of Barca's defensive. I think we're better in the Champions League. Actually no, I think Barca will be. I actually think we're better in the Champions League for some reason. I think we play more free-flowing football in the Champions League. Because you play Foda. Have you played? Bayern. Bayern was a great performance and great result. Other than that, the Champions League in the group, the initial stages of the Champions League is dog shit. You even struggle with it later, he's in.

19:26But we've beaten. Yeah, no, but you're not going to be good. But it's my whole point, one-off games. You're not going to get tested until Barca. They're two legs. No, but you're not going to get tested until Barca. So to get to the final. You've just missed my whole point. My point is, over two legs, yes, you're too strong for those Ilka team. Like a Southampton, you'd have won the home leg against Southampton. So you think we'll get to the final. But in one-off games, no, but Barcelona are your level. So I'm 50-50 on that. You've not played a team your level since Bayern Munich and a lot's changed since then.

19:55A lot more pressures on you. Atletico. They're going through. So I mean, Barstow could. Is every chance Barstow don't go for against Atletico? Yeah, yeah, I know you're right. It's actually every chance. But then even Atleti, I'd probably fancy to beat you. Two defensive teams. They play better football than you. No, no, no. That's too far. That's too far. That's too far. But hey, Arteta, we believe in you. We believe in you. I just wanted to ask on the flip side of what Tom asked, you've won one trophy, you win Premier League, that's it. What is then the aim for Arteta after that? The aim after that is to go and win it again.

20:28Retain. Retain. And actually, you have to... The one thing I think City have done so... I know their charges and they don't have much money. They might have much money. Every time they win it, they don't rest. They look to still go out and add to their squad and keep getting better and better. It's not even about that. It's the mentality of them, but that comes from Pear. By the way, if they do get their charges and it comes in next year. I mean, you're going to... You have a massive rival there who's left. Do you know what I mean? You could... If you win this season and win next one, they'll find a way.

20:58Yeah. They will always find a way. And also... What are the things, guys? Also, you forget that every season there's always a team like... No one thought Liverpool would be the shit this year. Like, next season, there's every chance Chelsea could push for the league. We don't... No, let's not be silly. Every season is different. But the rampant Man City are a bit scary, though, aren't they? They do find a way of just... It's just fucking... He's so jarring, isn't he, Pep? How do they do it? Every year, they just get better. They just go like that. Every year. He's going to cook now. By the way, if he goes and does like a double with this team where we've been slaying them, that's like fucking a bit mental.

21:30I mean, man set you on for a treble in Arsenal. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. They've set you to the treble and you win nothing. They've got Southampton, haven't they? Yeah. Also, that draw was a bit weird, wasn't it? Why? Oh, it just so happened that Chelsea get fucking leads Oh, a bargain didn't look? Yeah, but come on Honestly, people who think draws are rigged You must live at home Theo, you also can't criticise draws Yeah, that's the easiest draws Oh my god, yeah We've had City four times this season This season, but you're just turning a blind eye For the last fucking ten years By the way, there's only four teams left How like, it's not that mental Nah, mate Southampton.

22:12They have like a 33.3 % chance of drawing. They want City to win the FA Cup. By the way, no matter who they would have drawn, they're going to be. Hey, don't write off Southampton, mate. Great team, aren't they? Don't write off one of the most informed sides in the country. That's y 'all. Yeah, but City were good, weren't they? 4-0. Fucking Harlan backscoring. How good is Semenya as well? He just is. Just the way you are. That Cherky touch as well for the cross. I didn't watch the game. Mate, he's done like a left-right round. I like Cherky, man. He's thrown on the Liverpool top and the things.

22:50He's got a bit of personality. He's actually bringing some... I told you about him the three things, I didn't know. I like someone who brings a bit of excitement and a bit of personality into the team. It's because you saw a Twitter video of him I've been following for years, mate. What about Salah, though? He's shit. Oh, mate, the penalty. Oh, my God. The farewell tour but it's going to be brutal. Even the one-on-one he missed? He just needs to get out of it ASAP. Well, he's announced he's leaving. But where? I have a feeling. I think you'll go to Italy. No, yeah, I have a feeling he won't go Saudi.

23:21No. I think he still thinks he's the man. That's what Gerrard said on the stick to football, actually. I think you'll want to prove it as well. Gerrard's brilliant. Definitely worth listening. He was saying he's spoken to Salah about this, and he's basically saying that he thinks he will go Saudi, but he thinks Salah thinks he's still good enough to do it at one of the pops. That's why Salah's leaving because he thinks he doesn't want to sit on the bench. But when he goes back to Italy. If he goes to a slower-paced league and like... Who's got the money to pay him? Because they've agreed to leave.

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23:48Oh, yeah. Salah. Yeah. Salah's not going to take a pay... Sometimes, surely he has enough now, though. No, mate. Well, I surely got enough money, lad. I know. That's not how they work. It's their profession and they have egos and that he thinks he's worth 300 grand a week. So therefore... And also, if you do believe that in yourself, then yeah, you should demand it. I don't think he's worth 30 pound are we

24:14Dominic slow as I got a bit of criticism walked over to the fans kind of looking frustrated to say come on we're looking for more from you why do players do that blame the fans lads don't get me started on this shit he's the one guy don't you fucking tell me to come on you come on you fucking useless I fucking wise me up so much why are you I'm paying money travelling to come and watch you fuckers and you're telling me to come on? Yeah, there's a hidden agenda here. Oh, I agree. It's like when Murphy did it for us, we were 2-0 down. If you're a Liverpool fan, you'd be so frustrated with Sir Boswell because he's been the one guy this year who's been carrying you, basically.

24:50He's been their best player. But maybe that's why he's just probably this pent-up frustration and he's taken out on the wrong people. Also, you've just lost 4-0. Now we need more support. They are naturally probably going to be a bit pissed off. Yeah. And in fairness to Liverpool fans, They are some of the most loyal and back, especially their away following, to the core, through and through. I just think... He's just had a misjudgment there, hasn't he? You're a multi-millionaire privileged footballer. Shut the fuck up. Just clap and walk off. Another one they're annoyed at is Eketiki, swapping shirts with Cherokee before full-time.

25:28What are they doing? I don't like that. Because, realistically, right? They don't care. They actually don't care. Some players care and some players don't. and clearly they don't care. It's not okay. And also, I think they're a bit ignorant to the... They're not fans. They don't think like us. It's their job. And it's his mate. Oh, yeah. They don't even think how that looks and there's a fucking million cameras on them. They actually don't... And the thing is... I think he'll probably look back on it and go, oh, yeah, that was a bit silly. But at the time, they don't care. They don't think about that because they're just self-indulgent fucking overpaid.

25:58Do you think this will happen? It's true because it never used... Again, that's a direct West Bromwich. We were talking about like... Did we do a walk list recently? I can't remember. But that is genuine. Players would never do that. Even just thinking back to when I was, like the early 2000s, when I was a player. Why do you think that is? Is it a bit of the money? Swapping shirts? No, in terms of just like... I think swapping shirts has got less. Not swapping shirts. They're scared, probably. They do it way more now. They used to do it. Just like the lack of sort of... 1-0 down before the end of the game.

26:26Lack of intensity a bit. And like when you're playing another team, it's not like you versus them. It's sort of like... I think that's a myth. When we were younger, they used to always swap shirts. There's that famous photo of Omri in the Portsmouth top. Yeah. I actually think there's less. It's not like, this is Liverpool versus Man City in a proper FA Cup game. That's a bit more intense than Arsenal versus Portsmouth. You just wouldn't do it before the game. The issue is, yeah, don't do it before the game. Maybe when you've lost 4-0, do it in the tunnel. Do you not think there's less swapping shirts?

26:57Because I actually think there are more egos in football. As in like... I think they save it. I think they save it in the tunnel now. So do I. Because there's so much more scrutiny on it. Honestly, I remember Beckham in a Brazil shirt and stuff like that. It used to happen a lot. All the time. But now we social... I do just think now everything is a lot more scrutinised because of camera phones, because of the telly. Every game's on the telly, isn't it? 20 years ago, there was only like two games, two, three, four... See it on match of the day. Yeah, three games on the weekends. You wouldn't really see it or know about it if they swapped books.

27:29It's just like, the thing is, that wouldn't be highlighted as much if the result wasn't that. It's just like... True. If that would have been like a 1-1 draw in the league and they swapped shirts, no one would have said anything. No one bats an eyelid. But before the game, they still would have faded. But the thing is, they've fucking got to care a little bit. Like, they've got to care. Like, if you cared, you're not doing that. I'm sorry. No, but some do more than others. That's life. That's life! You look at how Declan Rice acts with Arsenal. He cares. But then the Ekite... That's true. The Ekite maybe doesn't care as much.

27:58But that's true. You can laugh what you want. It's just like... Oh, Declan, you care so much. I've seen someone bring up the tweet. He's like, when he left to Arsenal, he's like, this is the... He had a picture of him with the Conference League trophy. It's his first and last ever trophy. A quick word on Arnie Slott. What's happening then? What's going on with Arnie Slott? They're just waiting to the end of the season. I said weeks ago to get rid of him. Get rid. It's time to go. It'd be Alonso, wasn't it? Fraud. Alonso and Gerard at the... Gerard's second in command. that's absolutely not he said he'd take it absolutely no he wouldn't he said he would he's a liar yeah Steve don't lie people need to stop like advertising for jobs on like public forums it's like Tim Sherwood that it's hurting your fucking value there's a reason you haven't got an interview Tim do you think Slot will go before the end of the season what's the point no I don't know no there is because they still need to get Champions League I would but it's tight it's tight I don't think they will I don't think they want to change anything But I would Until they get it No wins in three in the league Their performance in their Champions League This week's going to be big as well Who's they got?

29:09PSG I think they're going to get annoyed I think they drop Salah Again Yeah, they've got to drop Salah You say that, but Since he come back from He scored a good goal No, no, no He hasn't been on the bench much No, I think they drop him now, I mean Oh, you think he will now? Yeah, I think they have to. I feel like he just won't just to keep the peace. Because, you know, Salah's like, I'm on the bench again. Because you can't hit a fucking barn door. I just...

29:42Chelsea Cruz for 7-0 against Port Vale. How nice was the Port Vale kit? Yeah, a big talk point from that. I showed you that ages ago. Yeah, but I've never watched Port Vale this season. No, do you not? No. It surprises me. Do you think... Do you think Rosinha has control over this team? I feel like they don't respect him at all. I don't think they do either. It's like the fact that Kukumala had his little interview as well and Enzo Fernandes doing this. And now he's two games. By the way, these are the most senior players in this team. You say senior, they're only 24. This is what I mean. So the most senior players who were setting the example are actually really immature in themselves.

30:17I think Enzo was really poor. Yeah, but the thing is, they're going to band together because they're on the same side. They're like, who's this dickhead? Because they both want to leave. Also, has this Enzo thing just been like, I don't like him anyway but has it been lost in translation? No. Has he not just said I'd like to live in Madrid but what I read is he says Madrid reminds him of Buenos Aires He said I really like Madrid it's similar to Buenos Aires they said would you ever consider living in Madrid yes of course. That isn't bad it's also not as bad as what Rodri said didn't he say something else?

30:49Pep just went nobody can stop you moving to Real Madrid yeah but he doesn't rule his players didn't he say something else about the team or something though that can't be it I'm sure that wasn't it I'm sure he said something about the players and like that's what was annoying I really like Madrid because it's similar to my home city I don't think that was it yes I'd live there how is that bad can I say what's doing my head in right and it's so often now where it's like the agents are talking on behalf of the players and like chatting all this shit like fucking Tanali's agents doing it every week as well do you not notice though like a lot of these players will do interviews in their like native language at their foreign media and whatnot just and they think like the British media won't see it no they no that happens a lot I don't think they think that I think they do I don't think they think that but I do think stuff can get lost in translation definitely that was it it was asked if he could guarantee that it'd be a Chelsea player next season he said I don't know yeah not ideal that but it's that's really not as bad as it's been made out then he might have been and this is where I think like Rosinha loses a bit I think he's went he's trying to show that he has authority and he's actually overdone it it's for me it's shown like he's I don't know I think it's quite that's yeah but to say you're not playing the next two games over that is a bit I don't think that's authority I think that's you trying to He's trying to set a precedent of like no one man is bigger than the club Yeah but you can't stop a South American from wanting to move to Real Madrid or Barcelona can you?

32:06Or No it's not even that He didn't come out No he didn't come out and said I'd love to go and play for Real Madrid I'd go yeah fair enough but I think just saying I would like yes I'd live in Madrid isn't really that bad Like and also taking him out by the way When he's a Spanish speaking Argentine South American he's fucked himself because they do shit against Man City now and Enzo Fernandes isn't played it's like I'd be fuming as a Chelsea fan still because if I was a Chelsea fan I'd be annoyed at that but I don't think it's a big enough reason to leave him out such a big game you're chasing for European places what you doing fucking all this respecting the ball thing now leaving out your best player you're going to get pumped 4-0 by City I think it'd be less of an issue if Chelsea were winning every game but the fact they're just in a bit of shit if they were winning every game he wouldn't probably be saying this would he?

32:53Catch 22 innit? I just think he's I think a lot of what he does is about how he looks to people on the outside I feel like a lot of his actions are motivated by that I do get what you mean it's very you shouldn't care you shouldn't care about any of that noise you should completely just ignore it they're going to say whatever it comes across disingenuous doesn't it it's like I'm going to do this because it will make me look and it's not the best interest of the team instead of actually being authoritative It feels like he's trying to Play a character That is a manager Yeah You know what I mean Yeah He's like Okay manager would say this Manager would do this Just be yourself But maybe he's being yourself And maybe we're being rude West Ham Lost to Leeds What a fucking One of the best games of the season This is So fun This was unbelievable Was it 90 plus 3 90 plus 6 Oh it was so good And then Fucked it I had a little bet On the start of the game as well West Ham to win on penalties Oh Man it was I love this game it was just so fun to watch because both of them are having a bit like the fire and relegation battles but this is everything for them and Bowen said himself like the one thing he wants to do West Ham is win the FA Cup Sandy misses his pen the young keeper coming on not sadly it was a shit penalty yeah it was the keeper coming on I was rooting for him mate but then he started giving it a large a bit too big and then didn't see if any others he kept saying he kept going oh I was that close and I was like you weren't that close actually we couldn't see the replay right but no the atmosphere was unbelievable there was chances there was a bit of controversy there was challenges it was end to end it was just fucking chaos Leeds should have had a penalty first half though I cannot believe that wasn't given on a was it stack he shot yeah and then as soon as he shot he got completely wiped out how many times have we spoken yeah yeah yeah it doesn't give you a free reign I'm clattering you now it's so jarring it's a penalty yeah it is it'd be freaking anywhere else on the pitch it's like it's probably a yellow card it's a late challenge Imagine you pass the ball and then you're tackled.

34:53Literally. It's a late challenge. Just because they get a shot off, it's like allowed. Obviously, it's a pen. At the time of Traore was unbelievable. Really good. Like, this is... It's very rare that he does that, but he just... Especially when everyone else is tiring and he's just fucking gunning for it all game. That was peak Wolves Traore, that. Yeah. That was really... He was good, man. Barcelona Traore. There were some good fouls on him as well. Ampadu did a brilliant foul on him. They were like three on two of Traore's break and he literally just went over, just wiped his legs and just went to the ref.

35:22It was so good. Leeds are in the semi-final. Last win at Wembley. I'm sorry. Back in August 1992. Did you know that? I keep laughing. Is that true? Yep, against... Oh, in the charity show. Yeah, because they won the league. By the way, you'd be fucking fuming if you're a West Ham fan. You'd leave. You'd miss the two goals. You'd come back for extra time and then you'd just lose on pens anyways. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fucking shit, dear, that. You didn't even get the buzz. You didn't even get the buzz. There was loads trying to get back in. So you've been at West Ham I've never done that all season.

35:51A lot of them weren't allowed. Yeah, I know. They're all trying to get back here. West Ham have only came back whilst being a goal losing a half time like once and that was to draw. So in their defence, they've never witnessed any of... Theo, it was 2-0 after the 91st minute. And in fairness to them, you know what London's like and traffic and stuff. I know what West Ham's like. Exactly. We'll say as well, 11 minutes was generous but they made it 2-2 in six minutes I'd have done so that's not much of a talking point. And then they had the goal disallowed in the first minute of extra time he's thought how does that result affect the relegation I don't think it does doesn't they'll just keep cracking on I don't think I do think though West Ham they are looking like I can see them staying up I really can wouldn't be the craziest thing in the world have you have you seen Leicester City what you mean now yeah

36:46but the thing is West Ham are going to beat Wolves Friday and that's I I don't know if the Tottenham players have the mentality to get out of the bottom three once they're in it I was talking to my mate and he I was just like I still can't comprehend Spurs going down like it doesn't compute in my brain do you know what I mean imagine they get relegated that's actually when was the last time Spurs were in the second tier Will let's have a look last time they were relegated was 1977 well 50 years and not as far 50 years ago half a decade half century sorry I thought it was like the 40s or the 30s.

37:22Yeah, I just... A question about... Leeds have got, like, I was worried for Leeds, but seeing that yesterday, seeing that the other day... They've got five. No, but they've got some good players as well, Leeds. Like Tanaka played well. Stacks quality. Like, yeah, I just think... They're in a bit of a poor way of form at the moment, but I think a result like that gives you a bit of... But they are picking up points. It was more, they've been struggling to score, haven't they? And I think picking up two goals a week, I just think yeah it's not too bad I think they should be okay but I still think it'll be West Ham so let's take us to the semi-finals Chelsea, Leeds Man City, Southampton who are we backing?

37:59What's the final going to be? Leeds, City I think I think Leeds can do that I think Leeds will do it like the fans will be so fucking up for that in Wembley man they hate each other as well that is such a good fucking draw big time in the capital I think Leeds do it I don't again I think it comes down to a bit of experience it's not that Leeds have experience at Wembley but they have nothing to lose and like the pressure's all on Chelsea on this young team I'd actually be pretty confident Leeds win that I think it's I'd put them favourites I mean I wouldn't put them favourites but especially if they're like safe by then yes they get a couple of wins in the next few weeks I think one win keeps Leeds up to be honest yeah four points will keep Leeds up but yeah and obviously City will bat Southampton City Leeds could be a good final though because Leeds will have a go at them.

38:49Yeah. I just don't think they'll be able to get it done. The Harlem Dab, innit? Yeah. Maybe he'll fuck your mum after. Oh. Man City doing the double though. Are they? I think they'll win this, yeah. I think Southampton will beat Man City. I think you just need them to. You're praying. Yeah, but we lost to the winners of the FA Cup. Would it be the worst treble of all time if City win the league? Isn't that the craziest thing to say? The worst treble of all time. It will be so funny if they get the treble. I never thought about that. It would be a treble. What's if they win the FA Cup and the Champions League?

39:24It's a treble. What? What treble? Is that just a treble? They're not in the Champions League. Yeah. Oh, yeah. But it would still be a treble. Yeah. The treble is the FA Cup, the Premier League in Europe. And then you've got the domestic treble as well. Yeah. Well then, champs, with the Premier League coming to a close in just seven games' time, There's been a lot of managerial Leaves and appointments Booyah In fact Nine managerial changes this season And three of them A third of the managerial changes Have been from one club Not in Forest True They've sacked three alone Haven't they? They have So we're going to be ranking Our top ten worst managers Of the season And I'd like to go first If that's okay lads No Lewis do you go first No I'm joking Yes get in there The boss boss Oh, the boss has spoken.

40:14The boss has spoken. Right. In 10, I feel a bit harsh doing this. It just is true. I've got Scott Parker. Oh, what's he supposed to do? That is very harsh. I know it is, but let's be honest, they are shit. No, they've actually been on coding games. But have they really given it a fight? I think he's been better than them. I think he didn't finish Stone Dead last. He's done a good job. I actually think he hasn't done that bad. They've been competitive in a lot of games. The fact that they're competitive is actually him overachieving. He's actually been sent to a gunfight with a knife. Have you seen their team?

40:44They're three points off being last We said Lyle Foster was the best player Have you seen their team Theo? What's he meant to do? They've got Brosier I don't know what he's meant to do I actually put him as one of the best Just for having to put up with it Stop doing that Why do I like it? Okay well that's one for one stinker then In nine I have Eddie Howe He's lost more games than he's won I think that's completely fair For the richest club in the world For the richest club in the world They're sat below Sunderland at the moment, obviously. Terrible signings. Lost both games in the dark. He's playing their£75 ,000 million striker midfield.

41:17Out of all the Cups, not in the era. Yeah, I think he's had a roster of a season. I'm like, he could be higher, if I'm being honest. In eight, I've got Nuno. West Ham Nuno. West Ham Nuno? No, it's not Forrest Nuno. The good Nuno. Oh my God. Yeah, he's actually taken West Ham. He's actually done quite a good job of West Ham, if I'm being honest. He's been good. In seven Because of his Just inability To change What was the most Blaringly obvious thing To do at the club I think this is law It's Ruben Amarin I think this is so law Really? Yeah just for like Because it's There's managing He managed with resources Like he had resources And backing And going into the season It was out of his own Pure absolute ignorance And stupidity That he forced that club To be terrible You got sacked When they were in sixth position I think it's like he tried hard to be a terrible manager.

42:09Yeah, but they actually made good signings in the summer. And he just refused. He got backed massively and got worse. If only he just was able to change. And what was annoying is, with him, his fanboys would... Obviously, Amorim got the players that he apparently wanted in the summer. And then, six months in, people were going, he hasn't been given the players he wanted. He needed wingbacks and that. It's like, would he have chosen? What are you on about? I don't get it. Fucking idiots Yeah And stubborn as well Very stubborn He's just a fucking He's another Classroom manager Not got a fucking scuba In six Another Forest manager Is Sean Dyche Oh no He did good I haven't got Dyche I haven't got any Is it He did good He really didn't do that badly He got points on the board They're in 17th position When he got sacked Yeah no but he He actually brought in When he come in He got points in Higher They dropped in the table No but he He didn't do that badly mate He improved their form.

43:05That's not that bad. He had six games. Out of how many? 18. That's not that bad for a relegation team. He made them lower in the table. No, but his results, I don't know. His results improved. What position were they? 17th. His result. 8th when he took over. Just lie for no reason. Why would you lie? I thought I would lie. He literally improved their form when he came in. By one place. By one place and they got fired. Yeah, no, but he didn't have much time to improve it by further. There was a golf, clearly, but the form they were on, it was good. We're not saying he's been brilliant, but to have him as what?

43:38The fifth worst manager this season? Eddie Howe's been worse. Eddie Howe. How's he been worse? How's Eddie Howe not been worse than him? That's me saying that. Yeah, you are right. I agree with you. He came in after Poster Coglu didn't win any of his games. You have him as worse as Amaran. I agree with you. I made a mistake. Why did you lie as well? I tried to dig my hole and I dug too deep. I fell in the hole. I'm in too deep but I'm sorry lads Paul that is lying yeah I'm sorry but I will say I will say I'm a changed man since 10 and 30 because I appreciate the mistake that I've made and you're helping me grow as a person and you are correct on the Eddie Howe thing what?

44:17next one yeah I know Eddie Howe's worse in five do you remember this guy at the start of the season he won one game it was Graham Potter yeah at West Ham they were shit weren't they yep really bad yep doing a good job with Sweden though got them to work up Is he? In four, I've got Thomas Frank at Spurs. They were just awful, weren't they? These got me in a relegation scrap again. Yeah. They're genuinely terrible. Could be their level. I mean, to be fair, they weren't in a relegation scrap when he left. Well, they were close. They were 16th. That's not too far off. Points-wise, they weren't that bad.

44:52Started off really well as well. But he just went downhill and downhill. Oh, no, he's still... The fans have turned... They would have just finished building his paddle court as well, the training ground. He'll be fuming. I don't think that was just for him, Lewis. It was. It was. Oh, you've been for a lot. With a 0 % win rate this season. In three, I've got Vito Pereira at Wolves. I was going to say that isn't true, but okay. At Wolves it is. No, yeah, but this season he hasn't got a 0%. He's won one, hasn't he? Maddie didn't win a game with you lot. That's mental this year. Yeah, he's shit though, isn't he?

45:23Yeah. You give him a new contract. Is it that mental? Have you seen Wolves? He's also not done that well of a job at Forest. He's just won one game and relied on everybody around him to be shit. This was tight between one and two if I'm being perfectly honest, but I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt because he's... Just say the name. They've had the same amount of games. Oh no, I don't know if he's... Okay.

45:50In two, I've got Ange at Forest. Didn't win. This isn't like the X Factor.

46:01The nation has been voting. Everyone's waiting on Theo's list with bated breath. Just say the names. No one gives a fuck to be honest. No wins in 39 days. No wins in 39 days. I wonder if we did a time of how long everyone's list stick. He's so elongated. We need to get some mid-rolls in. In one I've got Igor Tudor. He's made Spurs worse. I didn't think that was possible. No wins. He's trying to play three at the back. He's just, yeah, he's a fucking... He's awful. He's a donkey. God awful. I think your list is wrong. I think it got better apart from... You had three massive stinkers. Okay, time for the correct list.

46:43That's a 30 % stinker rate. Better than some of them managers win percentage. Not Dijon's though. No, not Dijon's. I was going to put Nuno in as well, but I decided to go against that because I think this manager is going to end up winning nothing. Tenth Arteta. No, but it's not about... No, Lewis, it's not about what you think they're going to do. It's about what they have done. Okay, well, they have done 10th Arteta. Why? Got knocked out of both cups so far. Is his Premier League manager of the season? No, I'm taking in the entire season. The manager of the club is nine points clear of the Premier League.

47:16And got knocked out of both cups. Irrelevant. It is relevant. It's the Premier League. He's managing a Premier League team. It's other competitions count. It's the Premier League manager in terms of he manages a Premier League team. Tom, you agree that the guy has got... It's about the 10th is a lot of league. That's half a manager. 10th of league cup final in the Champions League quarter. He's 10th worst manager this season. I don't think he is, but I can see his reason. No, there's a lot of... Be honest with you. Yeah, because... What are you on about? What are we doing? What are we doing in this shit?

47:43You've had unbelievable resource. You've had unbelievable resource. And you've been knocked out of both domestic cups. It's 9 points clear in the Premier League. He's in a... You just lost to Southampton. All right, get over it. I'm over it. No. I'm over it. Yeah, look it. Look, this man... He's not the 10th worst fucking manager this season, is he? This man has had an agenda. This man has had an agenda. Admit it. Admit the agenda. Let me tell you. Can I say my reason? Admit it. Oh, I definitely have an agenda. Admit the agenda. Oh, there you go. Let me tell you the reason. He has had five years, a billion pounds, a dog, and he's still not won a thing.

48:13It's this season. No, no, it is. It's actually relevant. Because you have Scott Parker on your list. He has zero resource. This guy has had unlimited resources and time at this club. And again, you've flopped in domestic cups. I didn't include a flop. You flopped in domestic cups last year against us. You flopped again in this year. And if you want to go off just this current state, you haven't won anything yet. Only one team has won something this year. And I personally don't think you're going to want to win anything. Yeah, and you were the favourite in that game. You've left against Southampton.

48:43I just don't understand how you've got the club as nine points clear in the Premier League. Because standards are determined by the team. What's Arsenal standards are determined? Standards are determined. Your standards are to make it past Southampton. Should they be 15 points clear? Should they be 20 points clear? You should beat Man City in the League Cup and you should make it past Southampton in the FA Cup. That is an absolute... Yes, you definitely should. Your nine points clear him in the Prem. Yeah. So why does that make him the 10th worst manager of the season? Because 10th is actually like a long list, if you think about it.

49:06We've had about what? There's only 20, right? We've had about... You don't even agree with him! I don't think he's in the top 10. We've had 29 managers this season. Some of the... And Mureska is not going to go into this list. I think that's lunacy. It really isn't. If you actually look at the managers who are around that 10 mark... I think you're doing it for a bit. He has felt... He has fell further short Of his expectations You're doing it for a bit Okay Scott Parker Who's had a better Scott Parker and Atta Who's had a better season I think Scott Parker has Reference What the fuck are you on about Determining against Okay how about this You got You got the You got the Gerd Muller trophy winner He got fucking Brogier No you think Arsenal win the Premier League Do you know what I take Brogier Scott Parker gets Burnley relegated You think Scott Parker's had A better season Than if Arsenal win the Premier League Scott Parker has Outperformed his expectations By one position He doesn't think you're going to win the Premier League.

49:55He doesn't think they're going to win the Premier League. I don't see how he doesn't even see the angle that I'm coming from. The whole resource that you have. Have you told them to do this in a bit? By the way, he spent£170 million on Ezi. He doesn't even start. You got your rattle. You got your rattle. £185 million. By the way, jokes aside, I'm actually serious. When you actually do a perspective to expectations of a manager... You think Scott Parker's in a better season, I tell you. According to expectation, I can't put Scott Parker in the top 10 worst managers. 19th. No, he didn't. Okay, even then, he's right on expectation.

50:29Who's jumping bottom then? What? I had Arsenal finishing second, so he's ahead of expectation, mate. He's knocked out of both domestic cups. He's knocked out of both domestic cups. It's all to do with the cups. It's all to do with the cups. You asked me - I'm sorry, if I said he won't drop, he'd be all over it. He asked me my expectation for Burnley this season. I answered. And then gave him my expectation for Arsenal in the Premier League. I answered. Now he's changing the goalposts again. No, no. Yes, he is. No, actually, it's only to do with the Cup. No, I'll tell you. What more the media? No, no, no, I'll tell you.

50:57Which one is it? I'll tell you. Which one is it, Luke? I'll tell you right now. This is the dumbest fucking argument I've ever had in my life. I'm going to go home. Scott Parkers went level on with his expectation. How am I arguing with this? Scott Parkers went level on. You said Scott Parkers are the best season in Arteta. Scott Parkers went level on with his... I can't even tell him. I can't even tell him because he knows it's the truth. Scott Parkers went level on in your own words with his expectation in the league and he was never expected to win a trophy in the domestic cups. Arteta was expected to at least win a League Cup or FA Cup.

51:25Not only have you bottled it to a Man City who you're nine points clear to, you've been knocked out by Southampton. Your domestic cup season's over. You're knocked out of both of them. Like what we talk about. So you have already fell short of two major things that you have always fell short of despite the huge amount of resource put into the club. So 100 % it makes sense. The one thing apparently you had missing last year was a striker to beat the smaller teams. Do you think you now have the striker? has had a better season than Arteta? No. Do you? It's about, the list is about the worst managers.

51:56I think Arteta's had a worse season than Scott Parker. Oh my God. I don't think you're going to win the league. You're not going to win anything. Like, you're not going to win anything again. What do you rank him in like the top three managers this season and he's not going to win anything again? It's like Groundhog Day. He doesn't win anything. If he does go on to not win anything, he has had a worse. I don't know about that. But that's what he thinks. He thinks you're not going to win anything. the worst managers this season okay Bernie might survive then yeah Bernie might stay up and then Scott Parker is one of the best managers of the season generally Newcastle might win every game for the rest of the season we could finish sixth we can have a laugh alright let's have a laugh okay we're talking about you're changing the goalpost no we're not we're talking about the Premier League season no you're changing the goalpost we're not stop doing that stop doing that you now think Scott Parker is the best season no no no yet again you're changing what I'm saying Arteta also, a part of his job is to manage the other competitions.

52:54And he's still in the Champions League, Tom. You played no one. Oh, it's no one. Theo, Theo, if we're going off only this moment, Eddie Howe could win every game for the rest of the season. We could finish fifth in the Champions League. Exactly. But precisely. Who are you to see what's realistic at all? Who are you to see what's realistic? We've put Howe in our league. We've put Howe in our league. We've put Howe in our league. We've put Howe in our league. Yo, so we've put Howe in our league. We put Howie in our list, right, because we think so far they're underperforming and we don't think they're going to get into Europe.

53:23I agree with you. Yeah. He thinks, I don't agree, he thinks Arteta is going to end yet again another season without a trophy. So therefore, it's a fair argument to have him in the top 10. Thank you. That's all he's saying. I don't agree with him. Burnley could possibly, like, stay up. But we don't think that's going to happen. Therefore, that's why you put Scott Barber. You can't go, well, I don't think they're going to. Well, do you think Burnley will stay up? No. That's his whole point He doesn't think Arsenal Are going to win the league Based on what he's seen So far Do you know what I can't wait for I don't agree with him I really can't wait for you To not win anything It's frustrating When you don't even see the angle I think it's fucking stupid That's fine I think you're in denial But you should just know Like You won't even understand Understand his point Or where he's coming from You're in denial I'm not in denial You really are Honestly he's in denial He's had a better season Than Arteta First stage of grief Is denial No I That's true you're free I think it's had a worse season guess what's after that anyway anger on to 9th I've done both stages in the last minute on to 9th Glasner I know he's got pillage for all his players I've got Glasner as well I know all his players left but like he spat his dummy out and he started giving up and he's you're not that good mate calm down he's in the back end of a European tournament though oh jeez I know but you can only win what you're in you are joking mate can you not only win what you're in he's fucking he made a bit of a fucking meal of some of them games as well.

54:48Still got through. Up against Dog and Duck FC, yeah? Jesus. Then next... I could get a game for them. Eighth, I've got slot as well. Eighth slot, seventh, I've got, as much as it pains me, I've got Eddie Howell. Oh, wow. Why, Lewis? Come on, let's hear it from you. I actually, to read the one before, I actually, I forgot that slot. I think he should be higher. Slot should, I've got slot high. Yeah. Eddie Howell, seventh. I mean, it's just a terrible season. It's just from the background of the club, everything about it's been a pretty shit. We got well along in the League Cup, but knocked out.

55:26Shit draw in the FA Cup, but we've just not done anything. Pretty shit. For the expectations. No. Grass isn't always green, I mean, is my opinion. It is always green, Matt, but it sometimes is. It is. I'd like to... We can always go grass is greener after another half season. You know what I mean? How much time do you think he's going to get, Lewis? He'll get given the start of next season. I reckon they'll give him a few months of next season. If he starts shitty, he'll be gone. I think he'll start strong. I think we'll be much better. We're going to be... Whatever happens this season, it doesn't really actually matter now.

55:59Hopefully we get European football. I think we'll actually pick up our form at the end of the season now. We've only got one game a week. You say this every episode. We've only got one game a week now. You say it every episode. I know, but all I've got is hope. And then you go and lose to some... Do you know what? We can lose the rest of the games as long as we beat Arsenal, I'm happy. be. Sixth, I've got Ange. They're not even a rival. Sixth? Yeah. I mean, even I defended him, but he just won out. He didn't even win anything. He's been higher. I know, but he didn't have much time to compete with the team.

56:27He just won a game. He went straight into he spat all the way there. He went straight into double game weeks and he didn't have much time, so it's hard to put higher. It is in terms of if you're trying to How are you going to implement Yeah, of course it's relevant He didn't win a football match. Yeah, no, but he had no time and he had no time to implement anything on the team. He put it in nine days. Yeah, and there was just back-to-back games without actually having to Can you not see the same on Tudor though with Spurs? No, he had a bit more time on the pitch, didn't he? They played seven and eight games.

56:57He had four more days as manager. There you are. But he had less European games. Fuck off, Louis! No, Ange had less... See, there you are. Ange had less time. By the way, by the way, Tottenham had better players than Forrest. He didn't win a game. They probably don't. He had a 0 % win record Yeah, suck on that No, no, no, no, no, no, no I like Ange, I can't put him higher, I like Ange I like him, but you can't let him sit I can, I like half Who's above him then? We've got Frank He won a game He had a whole pre-season and everything He had everything ready Yeah, it makes it worse on Frank No, but he also won a game Yeah, but he had more time, he had a whole pre-season implement an actual style which is important for a manager I don't care what you say like you need that time to implement and then he just they were shit and they've been suffering from that the whole season Frank?

57:50Yeah What? They lost at Atletico didn't they? Thomas Frank got them like fourth in the Champions League I thought you said he won the Champions League Oh yeah I was a bit confused what you're saying You can't have Ange ahead of that I can I've got below it The guy that didn't win a football match Fourth I've got Potter I think he's just shit isn't he I always thought he was good But I will say, now I'm a little bit confused because Potter won one in five at West Ham whereas Ange won zero in eight. You need to let go of the winning. It's just like the manager, innit? That's the whole point of being a manager.

58:20No, but no, that's not right because you can lose a certain way and you win a certain way. Like under Steve Bruce, we finished 12th, but we were fucking, we were absolutely abysmal and shit. West Ham did show some signs of like, especially when he first come in, I know it's this season, to be fair, so I'm talking shit, but he definitely showed more than Ange did at Forest. Not this season Forrest showed what? Not this season though What? He didn't show it this season Potter He showed more than Ange did at Forrest I know but I feel like Ange literally showed Zilch at Forrest He just jumped into It was a ridiculously Stupid position To even take that job It was a It was a poison chalice He still took it And chose to play The way he tried to play With those players And he's great and Potter Won a game Lads he's Australian Leave him alone And Dij came in And started getting results Exactly straight away He's Australian What?

59:09Third, Eagor. What? He's fucking... You think there's two worse than him? Yes. What? Yes. Go on then. Second, Amram. Absolutely, because again... Mate, he had them sixth. I think he's a fraud and I do think they were terrible, but... They won football matches. My argument... Okay, my argument for Amram ahead of Eagor, right? Tottenham, it's way more of a complex, like, situation to try and fix. Amram, it was so clear... Man United was a much harder job. No, with Man United, mate, he had a fantastic summer transfer win. He got all the targets. Every single person knew the fix for Man United. And he was so unbelievably stubborn for so long to the point where he's in press conferences saying, I will never change.

59:52You'll have to sack me. So like, despite results, that is the worst manager I've ever heard of. No. He still had them in Europe. He was still doing better than him. Look, look, look. Imagine if he actually played the way they should have been playing for the rest of the season. I agree with these shit, but it's a comparison this we know why Amerim failed and wasn't good at Man United but his failure is still better than what they've done that failure still wasn't even 10 % of Tudor and Andy I know but again coming into that Tudor for example he's done terribly obviously but like that situation is Tottenham are in a relegation fight that they weren't even ready for and none of them are ready for other players because they shouldn't be in and he's got the players to not be in it and he actually made them worse I agree but but the thing is it's like that's already a situation that's fucked.

1:00:37This is like, there's different standards of that Tottenham team should never be in a relegation battle, but he's inherited a Tottenham team

1:00:46that is in a relegation battle. That Man United team, he has had a great summer and he's had a whole season where they should be going for top four, top five and he's been so ignorant and stubborn. For me, that's a terrible manager in performance. We're saying that he was involved in the transfers this, that. So then if they had a great transfer, surely he gets credit for that. But then he's not utilised the players, right? At all? But you just said they had a great summer window and they've all played. Kuno and Bema have done well this season. But the fact that he has been backed and then failed to get anything out of the place.

1:01:13Like Sesko, for example. That's not true, though. Sesko is a prime example. As soon as Carrick came in and has been injected with a bit of confidence, been given some time, he's been an absolute phenomenon for them. I don't think you... Me and Tom are not arguing that Amron is a good manager. He did a bad job at Man United. Terrible. But not as bad as two blokes who didn't win a football match. Yes. I know, but it's just... It's different from Man United to like that Forest job where it was a poison chalice. Yeah, it's hard, that's why harder. Managing Manchester United is the hardest job in the country.

1:01:40I think any of us could have done a better job than Amarim this season. Just fucking play the players in the right positions, lad. You're a stinker. And then first, I've got Vitor Pereira for Wolves. So why is he in then? He also didn't win a game. Because he had a whole pre-season and set them on to the worst season of the life. It is relevant. It's a few weeks. It's mainly fitness. Nah, you have times with the players in green and set the tone for your season. So you've got no slot as well? Have you forgotten about it? No, slot in. Oh, you wasn't? It was like eighth or seventh. Well, that's the correct answer.

1:02:14That was a mess. I've gone Glasner in 10th, Nuno in 9th, Potter in 8th, Howe in 7th, slot in 6th. He's lucky to be... It's only because he's still in the Champions League. For now. Very lucky to be in that. This video might go out. They might have been batted 5-0 though. No, but I don't... Liverpool in Europe, I just never write them off. I could see them having a run. There's Anfield under the lights. Second leg. Thomas Frank in fifth. Amorim in fourth. Pereira in third. And second, Tudor first. That sounds like a great list, Tom. I think that's the correct answer. Yeah. How many did I get right there?

1:02:51You would weigh off. I think I might be close to you, no. Yeah, I'm amazed you've actually put that in. I think I won over him, though. I don't think you did. I actually think his was somehow better. What the frick? Yeah, and I forgot, like, Glasner and slot. Yeah, you boast. Actually, no, his is better because you forgot slot. Which is, out of your list, Tom, who's the one that you've bought was either harsh or lucky to not be that high? Slot, lucky to be at six. Slot's lucky. And again, it's only because they can still have a run in the Champions League. They get knocked out at PSG. Do you put them higher?

1:03:25Top three. I'd put him top three based on expectations. Do you expect them to lose to PSG? No, it's not that. It's the season as a whole. as a whole it's the fact I wouldn't be surprised my thing is I think PSG would beat Liverpool but I wouldn't be shocked if Liverpool went through like Liverpool and Europe are just a weird beast Is Liverpool one of the worst running champions of all time? Yes based on the investment in the summer and how They broke the transfer record twice and how easily they won the league last season as well people forget that they pissed it How big of a miss do you think And the league this year isn't that good How big of a miss do you think Isak has been?

1:04:01I mean Fucking shit And will he be back Do you think he'll be the same player Apparently he's back Before the end of the season They were doing poorly with him Weren't they I don't think he'll do good Next season is where He's going to get back To his best I don't think I don't think Izak is What they're missing Put it that way Who's their star man Next season Sabozlai Sabozlai He might go Real Madrid mate You can't just say that About every player What Enzo Sabozlai What do you think they do To Nali's going as well Yeah He's going Arsenal He's going everywhere apparently Come to his agent It's the way you are Eddie Howe's going Right anyway Let us know in the comments What you think About our list And why And if you think Scott Parker's a better manager Than Arteta He didn't say that He did I asked him point blank And he said that Gaslighting Oh what's this going on about Oh yeah I've got to shave my head Why Because I had a bet That Chelsea would go further then.

1:05:00But you've been growing it out. I will do it. You've finally got it working. I'm not doing it yet. I will do it though at the end of season. For the World Cup. I'll do it for the World Cup, yeah. Yeah, skinhead Tom at the World Cup. I promise I will do it. Well, he wanted it. That's why he made the bed. I think I said to the girl, he wants it. Because you've got a strong hairline, you can have that one all over and it'll look kind of fit. Yeah, no, it doesn't suit me that much, but I look better with hair. You can find out what you'd look like. Well, they don't know what's underneath his head though.

1:05:28What? His hair. Like the filter doesn't know what's underneath. Anyways guys, we're going to be ranking every Premier League team on entertainment this year. Yeah. I guess we all have different views of entertainment, right? I mean it's a bit hard because like the middle of my list is just like loads of teams where I'm like, meh. I just put down what teams do I like and enjoy watching. Yeah. I'm going to go first. Go on then. This time. In 20th, Don't do it. I've got Burnley. In 19th, Arsenal. No. wrong why why I enjoy watching them it's shit because you're boring to watch and you win at least if you're boring to watch and lost it'd be good there's not much entertainment when you watch Arsenal when they lose honestly Arsenal losing I'd put top of my list though yeah for him they are top mate that Leberkut yeah for that side of it yeah laughing yeah but no you win all the time now so it's not been good this season not recently yeah the Southampton game was great when we don't win it's even higher for you lot I have done it more on who if they're on who do I want to go and watch would you not if Arsenal were on you probably would watch it I'll watch all these teams we're supposed to watch the games but I wouldn't go I wouldn't go yes Arsenal are on you don't excite me one bit I don't think oh god I can't wait to see fucking Zubimendi pass it I'm excited for the Everton game what do you think there's do you think Arsenal are excited to watch Theo I'm excited to watch them no No, no, no, no.

1:06:54Not are you excited to watch them? Are you excited watching them? I'm excited for like corners and that, yeah. I love corners so much. I love watching. If I was an Arsenal fan, I would love corners. I'd fucking love corners. I'd be all over corners. You haven't even scored that many corners lately. Yeah, that's why we're losing. Yeah, if we actually scored open play goals, we're trying to at least. 18th Wolves, 17th West Ham, 16th Palace. I think that's high. High? High. 15th Villa I think Villa are so boring Yeah I agree I really I disagree I really disagree I think they're just meh Middle of the pack I really enjoy watching Villa I think because they've got like Rodgers and stuff McGinn Yeah but Rodgers have been terrible For months now I think I enjoy the element Where they're sort of Punching a bit above the weight Yeah But they're not anymore Yeah Yeah it's crazy They're the established players In the league Especially in midfield And also worldies I've got them way high me I enjoy Villa I wouldn't expect you to enjoy Watching them win though Yeah but they've dried up Yeah The worldies have dried up.

1:07:54They haven't dried up. The worldies have. Mate, they have. That's why they've started losing games. But even now, it's entertaining. They have something to five foot. I don't know. I've enjoyed watching them all season. 14th Brighton. Oh, wow. That's low. Yeah. Mate, they're mental to watch. Sometimes maybe good, sometimes maybe shit. I have like... They're lucky they're that high. I think they're well excited to watch. I've got like Danny Wells. Because you're from there? That's not true. They're like your second team. That's actually not true at all. I'm actually from Seaford. Why do you find them exciting to watch, Theo?

1:08:22Because you never know what's going to happen with Brighton. Maybe they win, maybe they lose. Maybe Danny Webber scores a hat-trick, maybe he doesn't. It's just so much unpredictability with them. They're quite a fluid team. They've got Pascal Grob. They've got loads of cool players. It's completely opposite to what Arsenal are.

1:08:40I just, I don't know. I put Brighton 14th because, yeah, when I watch them, they can be decent to watch. But they're one of the least. If Brighton are playing, I'm like, I kind of have to force myself to put it on. Yeah, I feel you. Whereas I'd rather watch Villa, mainly I hate watching. But 13th, they've gone Sunderland. Now, as much as I find Sunderland fun this season for points above their weight. I think they're boring to watch. Actually to watch, they're not great. I think they're boring. They're quite pragmatic, aren't they? Yeah. Which I get, I understand. Which, yeah, obviously, like they're fucking promoting.

1:09:13Fantastic team, but they are a bit boring to watch. 12 Leeds, I think they have, maybe not recently, but they slightly have a bit more of a go. 11th I've gone Everton. 10th Newcastle. I mean, I know they've been underwhelming, but their games are entertaining, I think. Yeah, they are. 9th Fulham. I've really enjoyed Fulham this season. 8th purely out of the mentalness Spurs. Not because they're good to watch. It's entertaining every time. Can I just ask you a quick one of Fulham? Who in particular have you enjoyed watching for them? Wilson. Obviously Wilson. it won't be when he's Wilson just Wilson for me unbelievable also that Calvin Bassie ran when he almost scored was amazing Bassie's not been that good this season I don't think even that what's the right back called he's got a single name oh Tete yeah I don't mind him but yeah yeah anyway 7th Brentford now again only because Brentford are great and they all punched above their weight and it's fun but the football is pretty negative.

1:10:17I think their attack is quite exciting. Like, you've got Utara... It can be, but they're very direct and they're very... It makes them quite... I think they're quite exciting to watch. I mean, they're seventh. That's pretty good, actually. Sixth Bournemouth, I've gone. Bournemouth are great to watch. Not since Semenya left. Yeah. They have been. I just... I just never... When I see Bournemouth, I'm just like, man... It's fucking unbelievable. But that's... Yeah. But that's Man United always, like, bringing that out of teams a bit. I'll credit that to Man Utd a bit. I've never bought, like if you saw Bournemouth, Brighton.

1:10:50Bournemouth have scored 46 goals. I'm sure we were annoyed that Bournemouth-Brighton was televised the other week. Two nil nils. They got three nil nils in the last five games. So we're just doing the last five games? No, but they draw a lot of games, don't they? I don't personally look forward to watching them. They've scored 46 goals. They've drawn 15, they've drawn more than any other team this season. Yeah, why does that make someone boring? A lot of them are low scoring as well. They've scored more goals than Villa. So? Do you be saying Villa are good to watch? Yeah, they score worldies when they score though.

1:11:22Oh, right. I thought football and state was about scoring goals. All right. Doesn't matter how they score them. We just don't agree with you. It's okay though. No, Bournemouth have scored as many as Brentford. Yeah, but Brentford are just more exciting, aren't they, I think. I really don't think so. Fifth, Chelsea. Fourth, again, mainly for the madness, Forest. Third, City. Wait, Forest? Yeah, I think Forest are class to watch. Is that bringing in the whole like I disagree Three seconds Yeah everything They're mental I just think it's mental Forrest on telly I want to watch them Not because they're good But I just think it's mental I think it's entertaining Third City Second Against similar Liverpool They're not obviously the best But That's interesting Tom Because Liverpool fans Run so boring Yeah but It's more Like for the upsets I like watching Liverpool this season Yeah to hate watch that not and when they click they are good to watch and they're open and like but I don't understand Liverpool fans not finding that entertaining I haven't really found them in the team this year I think if Izak wasn't injured I'd find it more entertaining just for like the pure hate watch but that was ruined after the first few games and then first Man United is that including Amarim yeah but more so now okay what do you think makes them the most exciting team to watch Tom where did you put Spurs I put them Eighth Oh that's quite low Yeah I'd say that's quite low I fucking love Spurs At the moment I love watching that show Yeah mate But I quite like them I don't like seeing them lose Okay Sorry What was your question?

1:12:58Why For you Are Man United The most exciting team to watch? End to end To be fair They've been better Defensively now Under carry But I feel When I watch Man United I feel like They can always score And they can always concede Which to me Is the essence of Entertainment in football And they have a few Mavericks Cunha's one of my favourite players in the league I just think he's just the directness and Bwemo's excellent I just think I think they've got a bit of flair mixed with a bit of madness mixed with a bit of shit which I just think makes them amazing Bruno Fernandes as well of course and they've got the best player in the league yeah classic classic Bruno Fernandes maybe Liverpool is a bit high I think I was thinking more of them losing games it's just been a bit I'm thinking shit watch me well I've got in 20th Sunderland just because I just hate watching and also because they're doing well it's like they are just a bit boring to watch yeah they're boring to watch and also they're getting results it's like a bit annoying or very annoying 19th Newcastle I understand from the general person I mean I can't physically watch some of our games this season but they are entertaining extremely entertaining yeah no but not for me for me the most anxiety inducing annoying things isn't that part of entertainment no no would you prefer it if like I would prefer every week if it got us more points yeah if we were I prefer us to be doing no but for if I was a Arsenal fan I'd be very entertained because we're winning like I'm loving it I'd lean into the shit house really like watching your team constantly underperform and fuck off it's not based on that theory you should just do the Premier League as it is then this is my personal opinion when I'm watching Newcastle I'm not entertained I'm annoyed West Ham fans weren't entertained by David Moyes football but they were winning I'm just telling you I can't tell you what the fuck's in I don't feel entertained when I watch a Newcastle game I'm annoyed I'm irritated you didn't find the Barcelona game at home entertaining on one off games the Leeds game in one off games we've been entertained but overall I've been really irritated and annoyed I can understand that because you're underperforming but in essence you are an entertaining team for you guys yes for me it's a very annoying experience so Lou would you rather have entertaining football under Howe and finish 13th or would you rather get really boring football in and finish top 6 no because that's like long term long term you want entertainment.

1:15:16What do you reckon? 14th under how or 6th under a ball with pragmatic manager? Long term you want entertainment. No, but that's like it's not a fair question because we've been entertaining under how and also finishing the Champions League places. So that isn't the actual option we are. I'm going to ask you a similar question with Arsenal and see how I answer it. Would you rather finish top with an entertaining manager 4th with an entertaining manager or top with a ball manager? I'd rather finish top. Yes. Tom, would you rather finish top of the championship with a boring manager or 15th with an entertaining manager?

1:15:51Teams like Newcastle and Arsenal who have money to actually invest in quality players should not be playing the same way as West Brom, though. This is what you're missing. You've scored 44 goals. That's a lot for a team in 12. Newcastle are entertaining to watch. It's up to you, man. I don't enjoy it. And then I've got Arsenal, 18th. Liverpool, 17th. I just think both of them are fucking boring. 16th, Wolves. It's just been over from the start of the season a bit, but it is quite funny. I think Wolves are quite fun to watch, especially as of recent. You might think this is a bit high. 15th, Burnley.

1:16:26I just think they give teams a good fight, and I like the underdog story sometimes. 14th, Brighton, and 13th, Bournemouth, and 12th, Palace. All those are just a bit meh for me. I mean, whatever. Palace too high. Yeah, those are all interchange. I like Palace. I do like Palace, but they're just like... I'm not really arsed about them. Yeah, they're not really doing much, are they? 11th, Forest. 10th, West Ham. Fighting that relegation battle and I've got an invested interest in them surviving this season. Why do you reckon West Ham are more entertaining than Forest this season? I think I'm just investing West Ham because we've talked about them a lot.

1:16:58I think they're going to survive over Tottenham, so I'm just more rooting for them. And also, they're fighting a little bit of a comeback, aren't they? So it's always a good watch. 9th, Brentford. Punching above their weight. 8th, Leeds. I just think good fans good fighting spirit you know I love watching the fans I do it does it adds to it if you have like a team that's like really loyally supported it's always a way better watching them no matter who they play that's why West Ham and Leeds was a class game it would have been better than Elad Road the atmosphere was class because of the game I know but like that game with Brentford Brighton doesn't hit the same for me what?

1:17:34do you think Brentford Brighton hits the same as West Ham and Leeds depends on the game even those two fans I think are more hardcore and a bit more fucking exciting I don't disagree with that but I don't know what that's going to do with entertainment I get entertained if there's a good atmosphere in the game when I'm watching it alright on the pitch side that's ok 7th Everton 6th Fulham 5th Chelsea 4th Man City 3rd for me Aston Villa punching above the weight as I say 2nd Man United and 1st for the absolute, not even hate watch, just curiosity watch Spurs. Especially in this back end, it's amazing to watch.

1:18:15Do you think Spurs are the most entertaining team to watch? It's more like you can't believe your eyes. It's like, it is like compared to when Leicester just kept winning, it's like, surely this isn't going to go on. It's like, it's more like I can't believe what I'm watching. Like every time they're on and they just continuously are shit. True, but it's just shock factor. Yeah. And plus you have to think like misery loves company. I'm a miserable season for me and misery loves company so it's like it always could be worse I could be Tottenham right now could be could be you could be dead but you're going to finish obviously in Europe so it'll be fine where did you put Arsenal Lou?

1:18:52right at the bottom like 17 they're playing boring and they're winning so my worst nightmare plenty of excitement for Champions League 20 I've got Burnley 19th I've got Sunderland 18th I got Palace Again I like Palace But they're just It's a bit of shit Aren't they To watch 17th I'm surprised you've all got Sutherland Solo In terms of They've had great atmospheres The fans are great They've taken some big scalps I felt a bit harsh Putting them 13th But I just couldn't have them Above the The other teams Are better to watch In my opinion Yeah yeah yeah I get the pragmatic side of it They're doing bloody brilliant They're above Newcastle 17th Not that good 17th Bournemouth 16th Villa 15th West Ham Yeah I can't believe you had Villa so high That's not even me hating on Villa They're not a good one Yeah looking back I might have put them a bit high there Their world is our entertainment but everything else is just like Yeah maybe it's a bit too high 14th Forest 13th Liverpool 12th Everton 11th Wolves Yeah why?

1:19:56You're entertaining I think we've been pretty entertaining recently Yeah they've been entertaining for about four games Yeah it wasn't entertaining for about 11 of them Did you watch them at the start of the season. It's still entertaining to see some club just get destroyed. But they weren't even getting destroyed. They were just losing like 2-3-0 every week. I think under Rob Edwards it's a bit more entertaining. You've got to look at both seasons. That's why they're middle of the pack. I know, but 11th. Yeah, it's a bit high. Is it? They're the 11th most entertaining team in the Premier League.

1:20:21If Wolves are on, I'd like to tune in. Especially now. You're one of the few ones. Yeah, Jesus. Even they, yeah. Even I'd be quick to turn it on. Yeah, but you're a fan. It's different. Yeah, I know. I have no allegiances. Under Rob Edwards, Wolves have got, you've picked up, like, they've gone from, 20th to 18th. Beat in Villa, but then, you weren't entertained when they drew 2-2 with Arsenal. I tried to take my... I'm well entertained. Yeah, 100%. Yeah, no, and it was a great game against Liverpool as well. And Villa. Yeah, and Villa, yeah, but you're definitely more entertaining under Edwards, for sure, but I just can't get out of my head most of the season.

1:20:58You've been so, so dire and poor to watch, but... I love it. Tenth, I've got Fullham. Ninth, Brentford. Eighth, Arsenal. You just said you're excited to watch them. Yeah, I know, but also sometimes it can be very frustrating, Tom. Okay, carry on. Seventh, I've got Leeds. I think they're really exciting to watch. Sixth, I've got Manchester City. Fifth, I've got Newcastle. Might be a bit low, actually, with how entertained I've been from them this season. Yeah, I actually, I disagree with my Newcastle. I think Newcastle might be higher. I should have them higher. I think they've been so entertained every time they've played.

1:21:34Maybe I would move up a little bit because I think about when I was at the Chelsea game just a few weeks ago as class, but I am off the back of just losing. Even the Brentford 3-2. I know, but I'm just off the back of losing Sutherland again. It's just like I've got negative thoughts about it at the moment. Newcastle and Liverpool. I'd put Newcastle second and Liverpool 10th. I don't know what I was thinking. Fourth, I've got Brighton. Third. Fourth. Why do you think Brighton is so entertaining? Because I never know what we're going to get. Where? to get. Where? You just said we never know what we're going to get as if you're one of the Brighton lads.

1:22:04Yeah, I never know what we're going to get when we tune into the TV. We as a nut. I love Danny Welbeck as well. Just because they're inconsistent. It's exciting. They're entertaining. They're really exciting. I think they are. Danny Welbeck provides a joyful experience for me. Really? Yeah, I really do. I really like it. That's what fills you with joy watching Danny Welbeck. And Pascal Grob. Fucking hell. Fourth most entertaining. Maybe Newcastle actually probably than them. Brighton are better to watch than Fulham. I think they are. That's why I put them higher. That's crap. I find that mad. I find your list mad.

1:22:39All right, fair enough. Third, I got Chelsea. Second, I got Spurs and first Man United. I find Spurs this year have been phenomenal. One of the most entertaining teams in the league. I've enjoyed it. It's pleasurable. It's pleasurable. So let's see they've scored a lot of goals considering relegation. And obviously Man United I think just are. I think you hit the nail on the head when you spoke about them earlier, Tom. I think they are brilliant to watch. So you think it's seven teams more in the team than Arsenal this season? Theo, why? What? Why are the seven teams more in the team than Arsenal for you this season?

1:23:14Just play a bit, probably a bit more expansive football. You never know what you're going to get with some of them. The unpredictability through the teams, like the Newcastle getting spanked every week, Spurs getting spanked every week. It's quite fun to watch. Are you disappointed by that? At the start of the season, if something that you said not particularly, If I had seven teams more exciting to watch, would you have been disappointed? If you said that accompanied with top of the league and I'm not clear, I'd say no. Fair. I don't really care if I entertain or not as long as we win the league.

1:23:42We're using that voice. If. Big if. In terms of the season as a whole then, lads, out of 10, how entertaining would you say it's been? I actually think it has been entertaining because the little teams are winning against the big teams. Yeah, seven. I think it's been a good season. I think it's been a good season. Honestly, it has potential to go to nine. If Tottenham go down an Arsenal bottle, it could be a 10. Genuinely, it would be amazing. We could have done with a tighter title race, I will say that. But other than that, the top four, Europe's still up for grabs. Do you know what though, Tommy?

1:24:12The relegation battle is one of the best we've had in years. I think the title race will get... It is going to get tighter. Yeah. Well, if City win their game in hand... And we don't even know... Battle for Europe is interesting. I think I agree with you. I think I'd give it an eight. Yeah, I think it's been really entertainment. and actually it's actually really good for the league to see Sunderland and Leeds chances are they'll stay up I think it's really really good and that's what provide entertainment as well obviously Sunderland are going to stay up yeah but I'm just saying for the relegated team what would you do if Leeds went down um probably not much oh you wouldn't be like gosh darn it oh I would be gosh darn it because I mean Spurs might stay up and your entertainment list is there anybody that's disappointed you or surprised you in terms of how high or how low they are.

1:24:57I thought Palace might kick on. Fulham for me. Yeah, Fulham. It's a surprisingly good watch. And Bournemouth. Honestly, I... They were entertaining. Every time I watch Bournemouth, I'm entertained. I think they're great to watch. Really? I think it's Fulham and then they've built on the opposite side. I think they've lost a bit of sparkle since Semenyo left. They're worse, but they're good to... But the essence of football, pretty much, is scoring and conceding. Obviously, there's other factors, like we've said, like atmosphere can help or the... Palismanic players. The shock factor or, yeah, certain players.

1:25:26But the essence of football to be entertained is goals and Bournemouth do that better than most in terms of scoring and conceding. Do you know who do it the best actually in scoring? Probably Arsenal. It's Arsenal, yeah. So therefore, we are the most entertaining team in the league. And on that note, guys, make sure you drop a like and subscribe. That's why you drop a like and subscribe and make sure you rate us five stars if you're listening on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. And as always... Skedaddle. Skedaddle. There you go. Get out loud of here, boys.

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