In short
England’s group-stage performance recap—Kane and Bellingham’s impact in the 2-0 win over Panama, topping the group, and debate about whether England have enough to progress in the knockout rounds.
Guest backgrounds
No named guests appear in the transcript. The hosts are multiple speakers (e.g., “Theo,” “Lewis,” “Will,” “Revo,” “Lou,” “Jamie”), but their real-world identities/backgrounds aren’t provided.
Key claims
England were poor/slow in the first half but improved after halftime; they struggle to break down teams that sit deep (Panama/Ghana) yet look better against stronger opposition (Croatia). England’s knockout approach will be more aggressive. Main concern is conceding if games go tight, including extra time/penalties.
Notable examples
Jude Bellingham’s “moment of magic” and a cross; Harry Kane scoring again (3 goals in 3 group games); Panama’s 13 shots and a disallowed goal; clean sheets vs Ghana and Panama; Croatia’s 2-0 win/quality goals.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOGame Analysis: England's Performance
1:06 to 2:30
Discussion about England's performance, players' contributions, and match events.
“Because at one point, we were looking down the barrel of possibly Portugal.”
Debate on England's Strengths and Weaknesses
2:30 to 4:10
The hosts debate England's ability to break down defensive teams.
“once again did a phenomenal half-time team.”
Player Highlights: Bellingham and Kane
4:10 to 6:10
Discussion focusing on standout performances from Jude Bellingham and Harry Kane.
“Other teams aren't going to settle like that.”
Concerns Going Forward in the Tournament
6:10 to 7:40
Discussion on potential challenges as England moves into knockout stages.
Strategic Insights: England's Play Style
7:40 to 9:30
Examining England's tactical approach and adaptations needed for tougher opponents.
“overall we've done probably like 90 minutes of good football wrong in three games no what are those minutes 180 I think we had spurts in that first half in Croatia and then the second half was great.”
Expectations for Upcoming Matches
9:30 to 11:10
Discussion on what to expect from England in the next matches and possible opponents.
“It's the issue then, though, that we are letting Panama get shots.”
Debate on England's Experience
14:01 to 15:35
A heated discussion on England's past performances in knockout stages and penalties.
“I could have used this time for a great night out in New York.”
Praise for Jude Bellingham
15:36 to 17:00
Analyzing Jude Bellingham's performance and his impact on the England team.
“I trust this England team to get through on penalty shoot or X time.”
Stadium Experiences Compared
17:01 to 18:37
Comparing the experiences in different World Cup stadiums attended during the tournament.
Tactical Discussions on England's Team
18:38 to 20:40
Debating tactical decisions around player roles and substitutions in the England squad.
“Also, if you're going to be more attacking because you want to try and break teams down, you play better people on the ball in an eight.”
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Performance Analysis of Harry Kane
20:41 to 25:54
A critical evaluation of Harry Kane's performance throughout the tournament so far.
“Harry Kane drops deeper against better opposition.”
Expectations vs. Reality for England
25:55 to 28:01
Exploring the expectations set for England and the reality of their performance thus far.
“I think it's harsh when we're criticising a striker for scoring a goal game.”
Evaluating England's Performance
28:01 to 29:42
Discussion on England's performance in the group stages and expectations for the knockout rounds.
“Look, I think it's unfair to expect absolute perfection.”
Expectations and Predictions
29:42 to 31:04
Debate about England's potential to win the World Cup and the implications of their current form.
“Yeah, but right in the high, you have to quit.”
Transcript
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1:03We won football. Hooray. And we won the group. We did win the group. So that means that we play Congo? I'm thinking so. Or Senegal. Senegal currently. Senegal currently could be Congo. That's ideal. Because at one point, we were looking down the barrel of possibly Portugal. Yeah. At nil-nil, it was Portugal. So that was scary. We had the announcement come through. Croatia were winning. Obviously, Ghana got there 1-1. Croatia went 2-1 up, I think. So we went to second. They did. Theo is absolutely hammered out of his skull. Yeah, he is. And he owes two shots to Harry. Yeah, he does. By the way, first of all...
1:35Which he's not allowed to do in the pod. He's not allowed to do in the pod. But it will be an uncut, guys. So if you want to watch the uncut vlog, you can see that happen. First of all, we agreed not to bring that up. No, we didn't. We said you weren't going to do it on the pod. We agreed not to bring that up. No, we didn't. You're absolutely hammered. Theo is absolutely shit-faced. Also, that's not true. What's this? Right. Either or, I've got a lot of things to say about England. I thought we were really bad. until the second half where Jude Bellingham showed his quality and by God is that guy good at football I will take every ounce of my beans that's not what you were saying on the bus home mate what was I saying then go on remember it you said on the bus home we were shit we were shit I don't think we were shit I said to you I said to you I said to you on the bus home I said how dare you ever ever say that ever again because we were fantastic you missed 20 minutes ordering pasta we missed 15 minutes of the game getting pasta we were buying Alfredo and it was the best Alfredo he's had in his life.
2:29Because Tommy Tuchel once again did a phenomenal half-time team. You weren't there for the start of the second half you were bowling pasta. Mate, you had no idea. I will say my voice is lost from Scream for England and I've been ill. He got back at the 58 minute mark with a bowl full of Alfredo pasta. Wait, he wouldn't have made it back for the goals though. By the way, lads, can I say it? Can I say it? He kept saying to me, oh, what a pass that was. What a pass and I kept saying, yeah, great, it was a great pass. I think, like he was talking about one of the goals he was going what pasta actually he didn't even care about the game he was like what pasta let's chat about the game can I be honest can I be honest until a moment of magic from Duke Bellingham we looked very poor I don't think it was very poor who did I don't think it was very poor against a team that are 43rd in the world absolutely no way I think what we have is an issue of like when teams set up to defend against us we really struggle correct and we should have a solution for that we did have a solution we went 2-0 by the way we went 2-0 I don't want to interrupt you, by the way, but we absolutely had a solution.
3:28That was the second half when we saw two goals. A solution being one moment of magic and then a cross from Drew Bellingham who basically ran the show. We got the win. We got the win. Look. We're relying on two of our best players to win us the game. Sorry. We fucking are. This is Panama. You think if we come up against... They're 30 places better than Ghana. No, we didn't stop talking about the places. Also, you said we're going to beat them 5-0 based on the last podcast. I said Ghana 0-0 was a worry and you said, oh, don't worry about Panama. What I'll say is we're clearly not good when teams just sit and defend against us.
4:02But against other teams, though, against other teams. By the way, they're literally 30 better. They're not 30 places better. Other teams aren't going to settle like that. Other teams aren't going to settle like that. Panama are 34 and Ghana are 64. Theo, Ghana finished above Panama in the group. Please don't reference the positions. As of when? Because they were 48th on the last podcast. They were about 23. Stop that. We need another number of the world records. Ghana are 73, bro. Panama are fucking 34 so what the fuck are you on about? But in the last podcast you said person for person Ghana were much better than Panama.
4:31You can't flip the script when it matters. Because last podcast you said I'm talking about the current statement. No, no, no. Last podcast you said Ghana are ahead of the group. Last podcast you said Ghana are ahead of the group. Ghana are better than Panama. Yeah, but we're talking about world rankings. No, we're not doing that anymore. We're talking about play for player, person on the field. Panama, 34. Why was that argument irrelevant last podcast then? Ghana, 73. What are we talking about? Garner ahead in the group it doesn't matter by the way these world rankings are a lot of bollocks I'm not going insane last podcast we did he said it doesn't matter Garner are a better person for person they're stronger they're physically better it doesn't matter where the rankings matter it's not irrelevant now anyway we've topped the group we've topped the group exactly bro we've won in the last 32 not good enough what do you mean it's not good enough we've topped the group what can we do we haven't played good football to do that yes we have we played 120 minutes first game we did second half we did against Panama we weren't that good yes we were no we weren't I don't think it was I don't think it was terrible today.
5:23No, we weren't. We had two good moments. That's it. Two good moments at a football match. They had a chance in the first 12 seconds of the game to score. How many more good moments do you want? We also had chances as well. We weren't, we weren't, we weren't terrible. Lads, we weren't terrible by any means today. We weren't terrible. The first half, we didn't create enough, but we dominated possession. They had a couple little chances. Second half, we were way, way, way better at actually creating some form of chances. I've got a question for you. I will say we have been controlling, which is good.
5:50but we don't have the capacity to break teams down at any point we scored two Reeve we scored two goals Lewis let me ask you not going to win the World Cup though are we let me ask Negative Nancy a question okay I'm just being realistic Reeve at any point did you think Panama were going to score maybe they had a couple smaller chances they literally had a disallowed goal yeah disallowed I know but oh my god man these lot of fucking trash they finished part of the group well disallowed for a reason by the way yeah of course I get that but there is a concern Panama got absolutely Panama got 13 shots second half fine that's the general consensus the first throughout the whole game Panama got 13 shots off on us I will say though that's fair are we worried about no no no I will say we're going to just comment on that I will say right the Croatia we conceded two against Croatia I think we all agree they were good goals by Croatia other than that we have two clean sheets yes they haven't shot some goals but that's three clean sheets no that start individually looks worse than it is it's about the quality it's about the quality of shot you have like sometimes you actually welcome shots because you're confident in putting men in front of the ball and you can block the chances let me ask you a genuine question how many minutes of England's campaign so far do you think we've looked like a good footballing team 90, 80, 270, 270 minutes you're such a waffler man oh my god look I'm asking a guy that's not smashed off his head believe me a lot guys I'm actually the sober one I'm the sober one yeah I'm sober guys well done Lou and I'm still I'm going to be even more annoying you're the only sober one because you slept for an hour on the let's talk about two well three players in particular let's talk about the three players Jude Bellingham Harry Kane and DJ Ed Spence yeah of how many minutes for the campaign so far do you think England have looked like a good footballing side that could win the World Cup overall we've done probably like 90 minutes of good football wrong in three games no what are those minutes 180 I think we had spurts in that first half in Croatia and then the second half was great.
7:50And then I wouldn't really give any against Ghana and I'd give the second half against Panama. You think all second half we were good? I think the majority of it, we were pretty solid. The start was a bit slow, but once we sort of hit the 55th minute... I think about 60 minutes of the 270. Sorry, what are you on about, brother? Okay, first of all, the entire Croatia game, that's 90. It wasn't the entire... That's not true. This is not true. I'll give you zero minutes against Ghana, fair. And I'll give you 90 minutes against Panama. Well, that's already 90 minutes less than you said a second ago.
8:16Fair enough, they've got a disallowed goal. disallowed game over okay what does that mean at any point other than the disallowed goal did you think we're going to concede they were no did you think there's a chance yes or no yes or no stop singing the face yeah yeah yeah do you thought we're going to concede there's a chance yeah absolutely I never really we're not impenetrable what's this what's this fucking what is this incredible defence you think we have we don't have that we've had two clean sheets did you see the way Zach go back no but no but no against Ghana and Panama no no yes thank you but like what what are we doing here we're criticising but we haven't conceded in those games we're probably fantastic in the Croatia game it's fair to criticise but ultimately the ball didn't go in the back of the net and we've won 2-0 this is the problem right we've just won Drew won top of our group got a great draw and we're still being negative no no no the performances aren't what the it could be I feel like that Croatia game is partially high not we him because it really got our that second half really got our hopes up But overall, we're top of the group.
9:17I'm not even being negative. I'm just being realistic. You are being negative, bro. I think against a good team in the round of 16 or further, we get peppered. No, a good team doesn't play like a Panama or Ghana, though. Croatia actually went off. Yeah, they're better than them. No, yeah. So they're not going to sit back and just defend. It's the issue then, though, that we are letting Panama get shots. Correct. 30 yards away. Will. Yeah, but they're not valid. We are looking great at the back. Nope. Will, Will, can you think of any moments where they had shots in genuinely dangerous positions?
9:43They hit the side netting. Yeah, Will. We have Pickford there Come on Lewis Can I just say something This England team Yeah but we're not impenetrable It's not like we're the best Look Revo Revo This England team Is better Against better opposition Correct And we saw that Against Croatia We scored four goals against them Yes we conceded to But let's be fair They were brilliant goals Okay Let's not battle on the eyelid Okay They were brilliant goals Okay Against Ghana Against Pano Where they sat in And we struggled to break them down But when we come up When we come up against Different opposition In the future maybe in this World Cup that might be the future okay when we come up when we come up against them you're not saying anything of no you're actually not saying anything he's Philippus what are we doing here he's Philippus I am saying something when we come up against better opposition we will look better why because we will dominate possession that's not true what do you mean we've been dominating possession anyway we've dominated possession against Ghana no no no let me add on to your point we'll create more chances let me add on to your point because the team The team attacking us will not do this.
10:47Let me finish my sentence. It's been a good run. I love you guys. I'll regain it back. I'll regain it back. The team attacking us will not be so terrified of us that they will actually try and also attack us. But the team we're playing against in the last two games have sat back. Okay. Thank you. Class lads. I love you all. Can I raise a point? The harder the opposition, the more likely we're going to win. Okay. Can I raise a point? Can I raise a point? Can I raise a point? So in these games, in this game against Panamera, especially the first half is pretty dull. But like, I do think it's clear that it's a factor of how much we can't break down a team when they're sitting back because as soon as we scored as soon as we scored all of a sudden chances are raining they're coming at us and then that is when we're way better but that is a problem if we go nil nil all the way to a 90 minute mark we might go out I'll tell you what the kind of team that will knock me out knock us out I would be more scared of like a Norway over Spain that can hold the fort because like Norway would sit and hold the fort and then they're going to break at you with Oscar Bob at Erdegaard and Haaland whereas a Spain at least if we go at each other.
11:44That'll be a high scoring game where we'll be able to play We said this in the last pod though. It'd be a different time if England played Spain compared to the final after the South. Because we would attack them and they'd attack us and it'd be a crazy game. We're undefeated. We did that in the game. Corey, let's talk a little bit a bit more positive. I am. I want England to win this competition. Oh, you think we're shit, bro. You're Scottish, man. But from what I've seen, I don't think we've got enough. I actually don't think we've got enough. I don't necessarily think... I'm undefeated in the fucking World Cup, mate.
12:14Right. So I would rephrase what Reeve said. I don't think we've shown enough yet. Yeah. But that doesn't mean that doesn't mean in the next game where we start getting into, because remember, you approach group stages games a lot different. Yeah, there's two halves of a World Cup. There's a group stage and then there's a knockout. The approach today will be a lot different to the knockout round because like today we're managing groups, we're managing players once you're in an individual knockout game, we'll be way more assertive and aggressive. I agree. I do agree with that. Today it is a bit more about controlling, isn't it?
12:52Are you not worried about the round of 32 and round of 16? 100%. Yeah, because they're the most worried. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're the most worried. What do you mean? Why are you worried? Why are you worried? Why are you worried? Because they're the kind of team. Famously, Reeve, I like to ask, why? Yeah, yeah, I've seen this. I know you're going to ask this anyway, because that's all you ask anyway. Is it Diel Congo? If they beat Uzbekistan, if not, Senegal. Why am I worried? Because they will set up exactly how Ghana did Sorry Interrupt And if we lose on penalties that's a real possibility Okay let me interrupt They set up exactly how the opposition we've had just now right but we just literally beat Panama He's all about Ghana It's not the same Okay do you trust us to beat Ghana second time round?
13:28Yes Yeah because we know how they play Okay if it goes to extra time and penalties would you trust to beat them? You only get one shot against the opposition you're against Extra time penalties And if it goes nil-nil and it goes extra time and penalties Do you trust us? It's a coin flip man Do you trust us? To what? Win an extra penalty. I don't trust us to win the World Cup. Judging by the last three tournaments, you don't judge us. Judge us? All right, all right. I can't deal with it, man. That's what we do with it. No, Will, one sec. Hang on, please. Please. Why have we come back to do this?
13:58Please, let me ask one question. I could have used this time for a great night out in New York. Please, let me ask you. And it said, I'm sat here. Let me ask you this question. Listen to this guy talking shit. Okay, let me ask you this. Okay. You don't judge this England team that has first of all gone through. Stop saying judge. Stop saying judge. Stop saying judge. You don't think an England team who has gone through Colombia. Okay? Different competition. That was fucking six, eight years ago. But this is an England team that has gone through it. So it's an England team that now has experience.
14:27No, let me talk. It's an England team that now has experience winning in extra time, winning in a penalty show. You want to risk it? You want to risk that? You don't think. You want to risk that? Yeah, I'll fucking risk it. I don't want to do that, mate. You don't think this. I promise you now. Theo, we've also lost on penalties. Yeah, we're famously not very good at penalties. We also lost on penalties, and the biggest penalty shootout in the final. Prior to that, we've actually done a good job. No. Have we? Yes, we have. We've spent 40 years of losing to people on penalties. This recently we did bad.
14:55Prior to one Columbia penalty shootout, we've lost. Since 2018, when it comes to extra penalties, we're actually all right. We're trying to change the narrative. That's fair. Can I interject? Can I interject? Since 2018, we are actually okay. Can I please interject? Mate, he's not a drink, and even he's fucking at your wits end, mate. Can I interject? Are you being serious? Please, with that. Since 2018, we've actually been all right. I'm trying to interject. You think I'm right as well? I'm trying to interject. No, no, I get what you're trying to say. I just don't think you're expressing it as well as you could have.
15:22Will, what I'm saying is, I trust this England team, if it came to a, by the way, a made-up round, which is the round of 32, by the way. You can't say that. It's a new World Cup, mate. You can't say that. That's disrespectful. I trust this England team to get through on, if it so happened to go for a fucking penalty shoot or X time, which I don't think it will. I trust this England team. I trust this England team to get through on penalty shoot or X time. Yeah, but it's a possibility you lose as well. Because in the last three tournaments, we have. There's a possibility that you also lose on Penns.
15:50And that's a fair point. Let's just move on from this for a second. Is that a fair point? Yes. I want to just move on from this. He just said yes to shoot you up, by the way. Jude Bellingham. Great. Absolutely great. By the way, He is literally Mr. England at the moment. By the way, I am not having Tom jumping on the Bellingham man. He chose his side whilst we were fighting his corner for ages. So now all of a sudden he's fucking carrying us through the World Cup. You can't be all like... Congo 2-1, by the way. So it's looking like we're Congo. I told you, dude, Bellingham's going to do it. Everyone said that.
16:24Don't bite. Don't bite. He said in the stadium, I predicted dude, Bellingham, have a breakout tournament. Let's talk about the stadium. But how many money's paid last two? What was it like? What was the ground like compared to the others? I don't remember it. It was good. The air is a bit weird. It was impressive from the outside, but I think the other two grounds we've been to were better. No, no, it's the best stadium I've ever been to. I will say it's a weird... They sold Alfredo pasta. You think Dallas was worse than today? Dallas was way better than today. No, more impressive, but in terms of a stadium for a football fan, this was the best.
16:55No, it wasn't. It was. Because guess what? Sorry, Lou. Can I interrupt you? Yes, you already did. Okay first of all We got an Uber right We got an Uber there okay First of all VIP Shuttle for the Uber That doesn't That's not a good look man We got drinks Toilet Free water Man of the people Yeah honestly No no By the way If you want to go To the Met line Well anyone who gets an Uber Gets drinks Toilet And free water Everyone who gets an Uber Everyone We should have gone out We should have actually done it When he was making his food I swear on my life everyone who gets an Uber gets drinks no one cares free water no one cares about Uber and free water I will say I will say the concourse was the busiest it's been out of the three we've been so far no that's not a good thing it took a much longer while to get to our seats it was chucking it down with rain that's why everyone was staying in the concourse it had nothing to do with it people going out to their seats what are you talking about the more people in the concourse is because it was raining it was raining in fucking Foxborough not as much as it was today same difference everyone wore ponchos and went to their seats not the same difference no it is it was raining far more also you would have no fucking idea because you were a VIP in Boston Lewis is going to try and beat the world record for the man to hold the longest you have no idea about the concourse what?
18:16you have no idea about the concourse in Boston you weren't there I'm saying today's was the busiest I can only go off what I've experienced no I agree so what are you talking about then man what are we doing here I will say I think it's a bit of a weird choice for the final stadium I agree the air is a bit weird the stadium's cool but it's no better than the stadiums we've been to so far I feel like the one in Mexico should have been like the final one I feel like Mexico should have held the final but overall you can't go wrong American stadiums are very impressive is that ski slope right next to it yeah something like that but let's talk about England players so Bellingham was unbelievable he played a different role today yeah he played in the 8 yeah because we knew we were going to have more possession and I kind of like that.
18:59Also, if you're going to be more attacking because you want to try and break teams down, you play better people on the ball in an eight. Exactly, yeah. And Gordon benched for Rashford. Yeah, Quants are at right back. I thought it was all right, to be fair. I actually thought Rashford was good enough. Yeah, kind of annoying, but I thought he did all right. I thought he was okay. Do you not think we were crying out for a little Trent Alexander-Arnold or I'm like, we always do. We always do. Against teams we can't break down. Trent is kind of like the... Tissot likes a solid defence, though, doesn't he?
19:25No, but fair. but this is the issue that we had before the tournament started right was that the first level looks fantastic as soon as it comes to maybe if someone gets injured for example Rich James which he did who's filling in Kwanza it should have been Jed Spence really but I feel like Kwanza was a little better for the counter wasn't he would you not rather Trent or Liveramento yeah well Liveramento was injured no but if he wasn't injured yeah I know fair enough that's fair we should have got Beckham down from the stands we got a corner boys Beckham you come down and take it I wish I had Alan Shearer if he wasn't retired let's talk about Harry Kane 11 World Cup goals for England the most ever three of the tournament I feel like he was pretty he was a bit of a bystander before the goal it's been like that the last couple of games the thing is though in previous tournaments you think he got off to a slow start since 2018 really well 2018 2018 he had like six in the group but then 2022 and he wasn't fit honestly I don't really care so long as Bayern Munich Harry Kane turns up for the knockouts that's all I want well the thing is as well today unlike against Ghana today he was actually coming deep again and he was he was trying to get on a bit more like get himself a bit more involved you've got Mike feel he's eating we were safe there for a second it's my fault he definitely was dropping deep compared to the Ghana game but not compared to Croatia he wasn't I didn't compare to Croatia No, because they're a better team.
20:55I compared it to Garner. Harry Kane drops deeper against better opposition. Yeah, Garner, he didn't drop deep at all. He stayed on the last man constantly. Whereas today... If we have more of the ball, he's allowed to play further up. Yeah. So against weaker opposition, he plays just in the number nine. Yeah. Yeah. So what are you saying? He doesn't know. No, so Croatia, he can drop deeper. Yeah, no, exactly. Because they're a better opposition. I agree with you. I actually agree with you. I agree. I agree with you. I'm true on it. I agree with you, Lewis. Why do you get so angry? Here's a question.
21:31Here's a question. Here's a question. How many goals do you reckon he ends the tournament with? 10. You think he gets seven more? No. Honestly, I really don't know what to think about England. I'm trying to say optimistic. I'm so ready for a night out. I'm so sorry. It's... I like to think... Fear's got two shots to do, by the way. If he doesn't do them, he owes everyone$100. Do you know what I said on the way out? true can I ask if you disagree with this if I go out you owe me$100 that's correct but you've got to do the two shots anyway fuck I feel like the Kourish game that was a bit of an exciting one yeah we were really excited but the last two games these feel like the friendly games I've been watching it feels like New Zealand Costa Rica when we played Kourish it was like whoa is this what we've been hiding the last two games is very much the kind of I just mate Lewis no no no you're getting on me for being pessimistic no I'm not being pessimistic I want the best for England.
22:24I know how good every individual player in our squad is. They don't. Bring the best out of them. Play, what do you mean no? No, you want the worst for England. That's not true. I want us to win the competition, mate. I want us to play the best football possible. Sometimes it's frustrating to watch because we don't do that with the quality we have. Are you not forgetting we just totally just won 2-0? That's not a job done. Thank you. Just about. Do you think that's harsh? Do you think that first It was just about. We got the job done. We did what we had to do. Do you think that first half of football was England quality?
22:57Yeah, but we adapted at 1-2-0. Come on. That's fair. I'm asking him. I came back from half-time. Correct, see? I came back from half-time. Yeah. Do you know what the best for England? Jamie just said, what happens when you play a good team, right? No, don't do his thing again. He said, what happens when you play a good team? Yeah, we'll be a good team 2-0. Okay? You think Panama are a good team in the competition? Yeah, they're ranking like fucking 30 in the world, bro. Have you seen that? Just not true. teams and you think this is what we should be doing. In all due defence right? In all due defence with France we don't have three potential fucking Ballon d 'Or winners up front.
23:32Jude Bellingham, Harry Kane and potentially someone else alongside him. Jude Bellingham's not up front bro he's in midfield. I'm talking at Lise Dembele and Mbappe. Three potential Ballon d 'Or winners. We do not have that. But at least they played in the 10 the last game. Okay Gordon Rashford not going to win the ball. Harry Kane might win the ball. We have one. What's your point? my point is we are not France yeah exactly that's what we're saying so you say are you so impressed by France yeah I'm impressed by France mate but we're not France so stop comparing yourself to France oh so you think France are going to win the competition then you think France are going to win it I'm asking no I'm not a goal 1-0 1-0 Colombia what a goal you think France are going to win it then no I don't think that because no matter what your talent is you didn't hear me okay yes I think France extremely talented they got three Ballon d 'Or potential winners right yeah but that's not about football bro just because you have the best players in the world doesn't mean you're going to fucking always win.
24:21What are you saying right now? What the fuck is he on about? You don't understand what I'm saying here. No, you're not making any such talking shit. Just because France may have, on paper, the best players in the world doesn't mean they're going to win everything, okay? You didn't say that. That's why he started the conversation. England, it may have the better chance, but guess what? He said the opposite of what he started with. But guess what, Will? Okay, we have Jude Bellingham, okay? That doesn't hit as hard as you think it does. He's going to wear his heart on his sleeve. He's going to win us every single game like he's done today, goal assist.
24:48We've got Harry Kane. one of the, if not the best striker in the world. He's not proved it though. He's scored three goals, mate. He's a question for you. So he's doing all right, actually. He's a question for you. You've got a goal a game in the World Cup. You think he's playing well against Garner in the first half today, did you? He's literally doing all right. He's got a goal a game in the World Cup. That's not bad, would you say? So you think, allegedly, the best player in the world that's up for a Ballon d 'Or... I didn't say he's the best player in the world. I didn't say he's the best player in the world.
25:07No, allegedly, one of the best players in the world that's up for the Ballon d 'Or, you think he's done enough in this tournament to show that he should be up for the ball and ball no but he's done alright which was what I said you think one of the best players in the world doing okay it's not a goal a game yes it is he's got three goals so it's a goal a game mathematically you're correct yeah so it's a goal a game so I'm right what do you want do you want a medal for that because you did 3-3 am I not right so you think I'm sort of double you think he's doing alright absolutely Harry Kane's doing alright he's got a goal a game you think Harry Kane you think Harry Kane performing well in two halves of football out of six is enough to carry England him through to a World Cup final.
25:42We ended the group stage and I said Harry Kane has got three goals in three games. Would you say he's done all right? Yeah, he's done all right. Yeah, but we need him to do better than all right. If we want to win the... If we look at Harleys record, you look at Mbappe. I think it's harsh. It's not bad. No, no, can I say... You've got one more goal, bro. Can I say one thing? One more goal. Say one thing. I think it's harsh when we're criticising a striker for scoring a goal game. Yeah, yeah, it is. He can't do that. He's scoring a goal game. That is... That's fine. He's good enough to do more.
26:13Yeah, he is, but he's still doing his job. He's got a goal game. It's the issue. No, I agree. I think 3-3 is fine. Why he's not getting more, though, is because the creativity isn't there. We're not creating enough chances. All right. No, no, no. Are we lacking a par, Matt? You know what they said? This is quintessential English behaviour. No, it's not. Just to compare to Mbappe, right? Seven points out of nine. It's good, mate. It is good. It's okay. It's fucking good. We should have got nine. We should have got nine. We're allowed to be critical, and we're allowed to go more. Yeah, we're allowed to be critical.
26:39We're not allowed to say the players should do better. Harry Kane's got three goals in three games. We've got seven points out. That's actually pretty good. I don't know. That's actually pretty good. But bearing in mind, he's up for potentially the best player in the world award. He's not going to win, though, is he? You think doing okay is good enough for the country? Okay, question, question, question, question, question. No, no, no, because... He's not in the Champions League. No, no, no. Let me... No, question for you. No, question for you. No, don't ask me a question, because we're never going to land.
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27:02Sorry. I'll cough away from the mic, because I'm still a bit ill. But you think Harry Kane's done as much in this tournament as Mbappe has? No. Mbappe's done enough. But France look way better because Mbappe's performing at the level that he should be performing. No, it's Dembele, bro. He's just got a hat-trick. And who got two of those assists? Yeah, but Dembele scored the goals, bro. Did you see the assists, mate? He passed them to him. What? That's not how it works. He fucking passed them to him. That's how assists work, though. Yeah, but the Dembele goals were not because of Mbappe, mate. Because of Dembele's skill.
27:28Yeah, but the link-up is the reason why they're doing so well. Harry Kane should be doing that with everyone around him. Yeah, but do you know, I don't think Kane's at fault. I think he would have wanted more. You think we're watching Bayern Munich, Harry Kane? No, no, we're not. But remember, Kane will get a lot more time. He'll get a lot more space. He'll get a lot more chances. He's got better players around him. He's got Elisa and fucking Lewis D is around him, bro. Sorry, I'm not allowed to be critical of the guy that we've allegedly said is the best player in the world. No, really, really.
27:53Would you not agree? Would you not agree? What are you making up? He's the best player in the world. Would you not agree performance against Ghana. Yeah, that's a fact. Look, I think it's unfair to expect absolute perfection. Look, Spain had a slow start and they've looked way better. It's not fair to expect perfection out of us. I think it's actually, if anything, let me land. But the superstars... No, let me land. I think if anything, it's a good thing that we've shown these little weaknesses in the group stages. We've seen it because you're going to show at some point, so we've seen it now and we can go to the knockouts and try and correct what's gone wrong.
28:24We've made minor adjustments today. There's still room to make it better, but you don't... I think you two are being way too positive. I think we look bad. Okay, well, like, or we all just fucking go on, then? You know what, boys? So if we all agreed, would you be happy with that? If I didn't say what I thought, would you be like, oh, that's fine. I just think you need to, I feel like your expectations are a bit harsh. Harry Kane is, in my opinion, first or second best footballer in the world. We could see the two goals in three games. He should be playing like that. The reason why teams win the World Cup is because they have a superstar to pull them from.
28:57Can I tell you something? Can I say something right now? Coming from an Arsenal fan, it's a bit rich talking about the style of football. You've got 100 % goal to game ratio. It's got nothing to do with it. No, but you've won the league playing shit football. We have two wins and a draw and conceded two goals in three games. I am more than happy to be shit and keep winning. Yeah, I think everybody agrees with that. I'm happy for us to get nil-nil and win penalties all the way through. Do you think you should be doing more? Definitely. But all I care about is winning. That's all I was asking. We can't expect perfection, though.
29:25But the people of that quality, we need them to drag us through but by the way he's got 3-3 but also Lewis the thing with Arsenal were they played bad football they got results but they were also the best team in the league by quite a way yeah alright England aren't the best team in this tournament I agree Man City beat Arsenal I just don't know what else Man City beat Arsenal why are you trying to beat around a push here I'm not even in England here I just want the best for the country right do you think we'll win the World Cup from what you've watched Man City beat Arsenal does that mean they're the best team in the league he's rambling again you're just talking to yourself I spoke to Will I said Arsenal are the best fucking team in the league Arsenal were the best team in the league so does that make them the best team in the league but that's not how it works because then you could lose to like Burnley there's only one way we can find out and that's by watching all the England games which we'll be doing more of these recap pods as we go on I only want to ask you a question I know we want to finish I only want to finish but I'll ask you genuinely hand on heart question from what you've seen in the group stage do you think England win the World Cup yep he was after the first game he said yes without hesitation I give us a 15%, 20 % chance.
30:29Thank you. That's dropped from 100. 100%. Yeah, but right in the high, you have to quit. We get pumped by France. What are we doing here? We're not playing France, bro. That's not true. We don't get pumped by France. At some point, we will. They're getting knocked out by Japan. Oh, you're a liar. Well, I don't think we beat five out of the best six teams in this tournament. I do. Fair enough. Here's what it is. We're undefeated. Guys, hopefully you enjoyed this one. Optimistic. We're going to end this video and Phil's going to do two shots off camera. So if you want to watch that, join us on Pitchside Uncut.
31:02Apologies for my voice, by the way, because I've lost it. Am I going crazy or like, England's like undefeated, Bellingham's playing class, Kane's got underpriced goal to game ratio. Just feared us to block. Fiered us to block. And we're like just doing good. We're doing okay. We're doing good. Are we still caught? I don't know. Spain drew the first game, buddy. Are they doing good or are they okay?
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