Lewis Has A MELTDOWN, One Player Every Club Should Sell, The Top 10 Over 30's In The World & Ranking Every PL Manager

11:56I think it's an unbelievable deal we did. 100 million for Tonali. One good season. And he's always like, hey, I want to go to Milan. Fuck off. Eddie Howe.

12:07Theo:10.

12:07Reev:Straight 10 on the Richter scale. Really sad. And then obviously the one that's happening very soon, Bruno G. What would that be? Would that be worse than Eddie? I think that's worse than Eddie, yeah. That's worse than That's your hero. Yeah, I can't. Bruno's not going though. They haven't made an offer. Surely you'd understand from his point of view, he's moving, like he's progressing with his career he's won you a trophy he's had a great job for you as soon as Eddie Howe left

12:30Theo:you'd clap him at the club no yeah he's a club legend at least he's moving upwards that's what I will say yeah look I understand it for Bruno I know a lot of the comments are like but like if he's 29 it's either now or never isn't it do you want to win the Prem because we aren't going to do it and he was promised when he came in we'd be competing at this point did I did

12:51Reev:you hear me say I'm not going to win the Prem No, but did you say a couple of years ago that Newcastle would win the Prem before Arsenal? Yeah. Yeah. But I'm not going to lie. But I'm not going to lie. Then we won it and you were about to get renegaded. I'm not going to lie. We were on track at one point. We were doing really well. But the limitations on the club, I think the ownership had fucked it from a commercial standpoint where we still haven't got a new stadium going on. We haven't got all the income that we should have so we can't spend. And I think they took for granted how hard it was going to be.

13:17They made these promises to these players. We're going to be competing for the Prem in this amount of years. He's been here five years and we fucking got worse. not worse but you know Lewis is the right what? we haven't got worse worse would be

13:28Reev:they are now out of the Champions League so you could argue they actually have got worse but what I will say is after when they since the trophy lot won

13:36Theo:well yeah well that's obvious isn't it like being in the Champions League and the trophy is definitely better than where they are now what I will say is Bruno it's not better it's not you've not got any worse than when you were being handed by Steve no we haven't got worse not at all you've got better I would like to say you're alright Bruno I will say you could have a statue if you really wanted. He should. Even if he left, he should. No, he has to stay to get a statue. Is this two weeks in a row you're actually directly asking him to stay? You can get a statue. No, it actually is. I actually need him to stay, because I don't know if I can just take it on a personal level.

14:11Reev:I'm actually going to take that shit hard. Obviously, in transfer news, obviously you've made a lot of outgoings, which you did say that was going to happen, to be fair. I told you it was going to be a crazy window.

14:22Theo:I think it's going to be

14:23Reev:all your best players leaving. Yes, it's more a bit of the Deadwood rather than not selling the entire side of the team. None of them surprised me except from Bruno and Eddie Howe. Arsenal as well, our club are there really. No incoming, well, one incoming, the Tazones. Yeah, because we're saving them for big ones.

14:39Theo:I don't know if this is true, but aren't we bidding for Conta as well? I've heard Conta, Bruno G and Vinny G. Can I just say, by the way, yous are the fucking weirdest club ever. Will you stop pissing about? It's like when you're in primary school and you go to your mate because you're too much of a fucking pussy to go up to the lass. You're like, oh, will you go and ask her out for me? And they keep going back exchanging messages. Like, we're not in Harry Potter. You're like sending an owl up to Newcastle and going back. Why don't you put your balls on the table and make a fucking offer for your weirdos?

15:05Oh, for the Bruno ones. I actually think you know less

15:08Theo:about how like transfers work than you claim to. No, you, you. Because agents are like one of the reasons why it takes so long for the thing to get started. No, you're going through, it's not agents, you're going through intermediaries. So you're going through a third party to communicate with Newcastle and that's how you communicate instead of going to the source yeah but like with us you're being really like fucking weirdos I hope Man City wake up and like just put 85 million on the table and steal them from you because you've been dicking around for ages I would say if honestly you're playing with fire because if a team does happen to make a surprise sale and they need a player quick they could just swoop in I don't know why you're dragging it on

15:44Reev:just make an offer but we are our arsenal as well you can make an offer for 80 million He said he wants to come here, basically. Yeah, but you have to make an offer to make it happen. And you have to be rich, you're fucking retweeting every day, advanced talks, advanced talks. And then every single Newcastle journalist is like, they're not making an offer. He's a gerbil. Just on the Vinny Jr. one, when was the last time you can think of when a Premier League club bought a genuine superstar? It's Ozil. Harland. Okay, yeah, maybe Harland. But I mean, if you talk about teams buying Galacticos at the peak of their power, it would be Lezard Ozil.

16:19like from a bigger club from a big player from a bigger club where normally Premier League players normally go the other way don't they

16:25Reev:yeah absolutely it's Ozil yeah or yeah because you can talk Alexis Sanchez Van Persie but then that's Premier League to Premier League isn't it Real Madrid

16:34Theo:Real Madrid Galacticos Real Madrid Galacticos don't get poached I don't know if you get them Real Madrid and Barcelona don't really sell their most important players that's what I'm saying

16:43Reev:Ozil's the last time Real Madrid probably

16:45Theo:yeah not even Haaland's really applicable do you actually think you get them I don't know if you do. He's what, requesting 500k a week in the year? I don't think... And we're willing to break the bank for 450.

16:54Reev:I think it's just a ploy to get a better contract. No, apparently the reason why he wants out is because of the image right deal. Like, Real Madrid gave Mbappe, I think it was like a 90-10 split on his image rights, whereas Vinicius Jr. is getting offered like 50-50 or 40-60. So that basically means Real Madrid basically own Vinicius Jr. Yeah. And for him going forward, that's not really what he wants. and actually you could argue that Arsenal are in a far stronger position than Real Madrid right now no the strongest position is always the team who has the player under contract no I'm talking about as a club in general oh as a team Real Madrid had a poor season ok yeah I thought you were about in regards no Real Madrid had a poor season but they also they have also just made a bunch of signings I know like yeah he's going to see the team with Mourinho on probably his thing so this could be quite good and also like but then also you've got to remember from an outside perspective looking in at Arsenal obviously we're very much in a sort of a a bubble in England if you look at Arsenal are one of the hottest teams in the world right now to go to 100 % but you haven't signed Premier League champion yeah but we have signed someone he's got a couple

17:54Theo:friends in the squad he scored in a friendly

17:57Reev:he did score in a friendly which is like you watch friendlies you watch yourself lose to Bristol City yeah by the way I spent 20 quid for the friendly pass and we lost 4-1 or whatever it was to Bristol City do you ever think maybe you're too much

18:07Theo:of a fan yeah yeah I wish I did not care that kind of was the game

18:12Reev:that sealed it all it was like 30 degrees outside He's already decided two weeks before. It's 30 degrees outside. He sat inside, spent 20 pounds on a friendly car. I reckon he just didn't give a shit about the game. No, he was... Zero managerial input. How was willing to even manage the season until they found the right guy to step in? I just feel sorry for that thing. You should have just been outside in the sun, bro. Yeah, I was sat on my balcony. I'm like, this is class. I'm going to sit on my balcony and look at the view. Nice sun. Watch the game. 4-1. I was like... And I'm like, we are shit.

18:39Yeah, you are. Waiting for a funny season. On Newcastle, obviously, your owners came in. PIF they've done really well they've got kicked off to a good start won a trophy won a trophy no no no they didn't win the Amanda Savly when she was here it was all class and then she got pushed out a bit and the ownership have dragged the feet on every fucking major decision around the club and it's like it's starting to get to the point where it's like it's ridiculous is there any doubts creeping in out even now Eddie Howe's left and you've got kind of an unknown when you yeah we've had howlers with the directors of football we've had howlers by dropping Eddie Howan with the transfer window last week.

19:15We still haven't decided on our new stadium. They're still dicking about with a new club badge that no one fucking wants. It's like, this is an old one. Oh. Cool that one. Yeah, it's one back in the day. It's just like, so like, look, it's great that they owe this money, but the actual running of a club, it's really frustrating. Still no new training ground. They finally did announce it. It's just like, it's been five years. Like, they were supposed

19:37Reev:to come in and fucking like get it going. And now they're changing their ideas and wanting to buy West Ham, aren't they? a percentage of West Ham. A bit more than a... Yeah, if you haven't seen it. What, alongside? No, that's... No. Yeah, if you look at West Ham. No, it's not PIF. Is it Amanda? That's Amanda... So Amanda Stavley got the PIF and made a consortium to buy us. Oh, so Amanda's now getting someone else. So she'll get someone else, go in, buy the bit of the club and then she sells it. So who's she getting to buy West Ham? Do you know? I think she might have bought it personally. I don't know what she's done.

20:01Well, she must have made bank. But normally she facilitates the deal, stays there, and then you get the coat or whatever.

20:05Reev:I wonder how she gets

20:12Reev:As you can tell, Lewis took the news well and he'll be doing fine.

20:16Theo:Yeah, we have gone on him quite heavily over the last couple of weeks. It's nice to just have a bit of a break away from it, isn't it? We'll do our one to 20 Premier League predictions in a couple of weeks. I'm looking forward to that. So, right now on the spot, the three is, where do Newcastle finish next season? 13th. Based on where they are now? Sorry, the current situation. Do you know what though? Do you know what though?

20:40Reev:It could be one where it all makes sense. I actually think we're going to cook.

20:45Theo:Squatch's not that bad. I'll go 10th. I think 10th. Can I just say, by the way, as bad as it is, the signings that we've made are actually all... I haven't seen Bamber, but Stur looks really fucking good. The only winger who's under the age of 23 in Europe who has more goals and assists than... What's his name? We have two rear is Jamal. Interesting. So two rear is fucking class. this keeper is really good so I'm actually really optimistic new manager no pressure no European football I think we're finishing 6th no you're not I will say

21:17Reev:your midfield is looking rather weak especially if Bruno goes

21:22Theo:literally way way more weak as well I don't think it's weak I don't actually think it's weak because if Bruno goes we're going to sign like a senior proper player yeah who's that then like who I don't know yeah brilliant mate but Sturr's good Bamba's going to be the new Yaya Ture and Lewis Miley's class you don't know if they're going to hit the ground running these are all these are all unknown prospects Stur looks like

21:46Reev:a new Bruno G I think you should have taken a punt on Norgard you know it's too late now yeah Jesus no I don't want fucking Norgard he was class at Brentford yeah he's actually

21:58Theo:a pretty bloody good player he's fucking yeah why are you not playing he's just thinking the game time at Arsenal he's shit too ahead of him we're way better also we're going for we're going for the Brighton we're getting European talents so we can sell on and trade, isn't it? He is a European player. Oh, just like having hurt. Yeah, he's like 35. Are you actually just trying to copy the Brighton model? Yes. That's completely what he does. Young German manager. Young European talent. We've got Volomar. Alanga has looked class against the 4-1 loss to Bristol City.

22:24Reev:By the way, if you just went back 10 minutes, your opinion on Newcastle has changed dramatically. I think we're finishing fifth. Oh, Christ. Right, moving swiftly on, guys. We did this last week, so now we're going to do the reverse this week

22:38Theo:one player every Premier League club should sell and actually no cop outs today guys you can't just say oh they've got full squad I've done this differently I haven't gone their best player get a load of money this time some do apply though that's the strategy for some clubs okay do you not think I don't know

22:55Reev:I don't necessarily think that

22:56Theo:he was saying I've not just done the strategy I did last time where I said sell the best player for loads of money the Newcastle strategy but some clubs that doesn't make sense to do so. That strategy sometimes is playing itself. It's just not every club needs to do that. Like if you're like a Brentford or someone you might sell a player at the peak and sign in someone new because that's how you grow. An Arsenal wouldn't necessarily do that.

23:18Reev:It's an interesting time because me and Lou were chatting off camera there. We were going through the squads and actually a lot of them actually can't. We don't want them to sell anyone. No we're just while we're waiting to be let in. And we were just saying a lot of the squads shouldn't sell anyone. A lot of them have already sold the correct player.

23:33Theo:I will say guys this isn't us being mean this is us just having to suggest someone for each thing

23:39Reev:Arsenal's perfect player to sell probably would have been like a Norgard nah I'm being mean and he's gone already I mean it a lot of these players have gone who probably should have been sold but we're going to kick things off from the top or the bottom go from Arsenal we'll go from Arsenal right Arsenal one player to sell guys who we were going for very hard I think it's relatively easy I think Norgard was the answer And this one, I don't necessarily agree because I feel like you give him a season to get his value back up. But I just say Maduweki. I don't think he's... What? Yeah, I don't think you need him.

24:10And I don't think he's good enough. He's literally our only backup to Saka. Yeah, no. I don't know. We do need him. I actually think that's a really bad suggestion. Wait, on this, by the way. He just said we don't need him.

24:19Reev:He's the only backup to Saka we have. Again, can we set a precedent? This is on the presumption. If you sell him, yeah, you could sign another player. It's not like... There's going to be a lot of these throughout where it's like, yeah, you'd sign a replacement naturally when he sells someone. Yeah, but he can play both sides and we need a left winger. I don't like him. Look, I saw him say Nogard. He's already gone. He's placed right now. I know what I said, like Nogard, but other than that, I'd say Maduweki. I don't think he's good enough for you.

24:43Theo:I think he could get a better player who's covering. I mean, I've got one that's quite an obvious suggestion based on the fact that we keep learning him out. He's not really getting in the game time anyway. Wait, three, two, one. Fabio Vieira. Fabio Vieira.

24:55Reev:Ah, Reece Nelson I got. why Rhys Nelson just because he's been on loan to what Brentford Fulham he's not going to get back in the team that's why I agree

25:04Theo:that's why I think Fabio Vieira didn't even know

25:06Reev:Fabio Vieira is still

25:07Theo:on our books he finished his loan at Hamburg and he's come back

25:11Reev:he's back at Arsenal

25:11Theo:is he actually training

25:12Reev:with us because I know Rhys Nelson played in the friendlies last week I don't know if Fabio Vieira is Fabio Vieira still cutting around there that's crazy yeah he needs to go that's what I mean like sell him on

25:20Theo:and he's actually what still 26 27 26 well yeah Rhys Nelson's 26 The thing is Because he's from You's as well You'll just naturally Get like 30 million From him You could get Reece Nelson Don't want him There are a lot There are a lot Of players That I went through That my name suggestions Are they were just Out online So people presume They were gone Yeah So when they come back You just Get it Next up It's a stinker bro It's not a stinker He's not good enough Don't pick someone From like one of the Actual positions That are playing No because Look it's going to Happen a lot Naturally you can Replace a player Can't you You'd actually make A bit of money off it You could get a bit I don't know.

25:57We did the people to sign last week. I can't remember who I said for Arsenal.

26:01Theo:No, but there's got to be some logic as to why you think Maduweke is. I don't think he's good enough. I don't think he's... Even as a squad player, you don't think he's a good enough player for Arsenal. Yeah, well, he can be there, but if I'm wanting to improve Arsenal, I would replace Maduweke. I think he'll change it. But Sakharovic is the number one and he's a great number two for that position. I don't think he is a great number two. His end product isn't really there, in my opinion. He just runs straight and fast. Obviously, I love him in England, but like I think you could get a way better player there it's not crazy agree to disagree Aston Villa

26:30Reev:I've gone by the way why are you acting like he had a good season with you last season oh you're bringing up his stats his stat merch he actually did yeah I watched him he didn't actually have a good season with you either and how much how much did he cost 26 games 3 goals 1 assist average rate is 6.7 he was shit and also how much did you sign him for 50? 60? like what the fuck

26:53Theo:are we talking about Yeah, he wasn't. Yeah, that's why I prefaced it. Get rid of him as soon as you buy. That's why I prefaced it. I would give him, naturally, I would prefer to give him a bit of a season to get his value back up. It would have made more sense you saying Yocker is. But you should be looking to shift him on. He wouldn't get any money on him. That's so not true.

27:08Reev:I've gone for a guy that was out on loan again. Leon Bailey. I've gone on Leon Bailey. His time's done. Yeah. Wrong. I didn't want to say Ezri Concer

27:15Theo:because that's just silly. But he's probably

27:17Reev:going to get sold anyway.

27:18Theo:But Leon Bailey. I think his time is up.

27:23No, that's wrong. Garnacho, get him gone.

27:27Theo:I knew so. I actually wondered which one of you were going to do that. I'm literally fucking serious. If I was in charge and I took over today,

27:37Reev:I'm saying, get that guy out of me club now. I did also want to write Garnacho, but I thought realistically he's not going to have it. No, this isn't a prediction. This isn't a prediction. It's what I would do, who I would sell. It's not a prediction, is it? It's who I'd sell. I'd sell Garnacho. Yeah, but instantly. No, it's who we think the club would sell. He's gone at Joe, was it? Yeah, in my opinion. Was it a loan? I think they should sell an actual. Yeah, but you can't do that as soon as he's bought. I can't. Well, you definitely can. No, you put a pin in the transfer originally. We saw Lloyd Kelly six months later.

28:04This has been a week and a half. Yes. And that's, by the way, a week and a half far too long. What's he doing in the building? I agree with the comedy and the sentiment

28:11Theo:of what you're trying to say. If I was in charge, I'm asking for that.

28:13Reev:But that's just a silly thing to say. It's a loan to buy. It's a loan to buy. So they either have to buy him and then sell him. Yeah. An obligation to buy. Obligation to buy, yeah. Get him gone. So you can't sell him. Oh my God. Literally impossible. What have you done, Aston Villa?

28:26Theo:Aston Villa cannot actually sell gone actually because they don't own it. You have to pay to terminate his contract. You're so mad. 20 million. Yeah, it's worth it to get him out of the club. He's going to be a detriment to the dressing room. Right. Okay, well, next we've got Bournemouth. This is one of the few that I have gone with high-priced best player. I went Alex Scott because, I mean, you're going to get... You think they should sell it? And£80 million for a guy who you can replace with two or three or four more players is actually a lot of money. Okay. For a club like Bournemouth, £80 million is a lot of money.

28:55I think they should sell them to Newcastle as well. No. No, look, he's going to be... You're in for Tyler Adams. Are we? Really? I've not seen that. I don't think so. We won't go for him. Well, you've been linked. It's not in our model that we're doing at the moment. Okay, well... We're all foreign. Who's in 27? Newcastle United looking to move for Adams. Yeah, see? I don't think we'll get him. Newcastle looking to beat Man United to Tyler Adams. Told you. I still haven't spoken on that Keith just a few different things I don't ESPN nah fuck that there's no way we're at Adam's

29:25Theo:I didn't say you'd get him no I don't I didn't see the rumours but I don't think we'd go for him but I would tell Alex Scott you don't want an unhappy player as well cash in when he's at he could easily have a shit season you're not going to sell him at that peak as well I mean they've got enough time to replace him with two or three more midfielders exactly players in the squad

29:44Reev:I think they should try and keep hold of him as long as they can That's a menu in January. It's a lot of money.

29:50Theo:And if he has a bad season, that's going to drop. He won't. He's a baller. I know he's a baller. And I know he's young and up and coming. A good prospect. But it's 80 mil. And how long is he left on his contract? He might just run it down.

30:03Reev:I went for a different approach. I understand that, Alex Scott. Max Ahrens. He's still at the club. He was on loan last season. And Bournemouth have just signed a new right back.

30:12Theo:Yeah.

30:13Reev:Because you've got Adam Smith there as well. and they literally have just signed a new right back.

30:17Theo:What's his name? There's no point having three right backs,

30:19Reev:is there? Who is the name? Yeah, there's no point.

30:21Theo:Fuck that. Do you know what I mean? So that's what I... I don't know the name off the top of my head, but...

30:25Reev:I can tell you the name. It is called... It is called... It is called... It's... Right back is called... Or they're about to sign a new right back.

30:33Theo:Oh, wait, did you not even sign? Producer! Help! I'm having a lock. He's stranded in the defence.

30:41Reev:or about to sign.

30:43Theo:Also, I think I think Alex Scott is is a step up from Bournemouth now as well like I feel like individually he's probably he wants to go doesn't he he wants to move upwards they get a lot a lot of money for him replace the players in the squad that need replacing so that was my logic well Max Aarons was out on loan and yeah yeah I don't mind if there's buying a new right back I've been doing that with a lot of my suggestions any players that have been out on loan have come back he's probably on a decent salary as well

31:13Reev:so you can clear a bit of salary there as well. Right, Brentford's next. I went for Ethan Pinnock. Did you? I just think, what, he's 35 now? There's no point in being, you're not going to even sell him at that point. Alvaro Rodriguez. I knew it was... Has he been in the Spanish squad? I think. The thing is, you're not going to be able to sell Pinnock, man.

31:33Theo:Is he not Argentinian? No one's going to go for a 35-year-old Pinnock and he's not going to want to leave. He's played for Spain and Uruguay youth teams. Oh, Uruguay, sorry. That's what I meant. so he hasn't made a senior debut in Aston Villa I've went Jensen Jensen? Jensen? isn't he kind of vital to yeah he's like 30 now get some money I'm a big fan of what Aston Villa do you sell when you're going to get that profit and then reinvest he's at 30 it's about Brentford yeah I know but I'm saying Aston Villa's model it's like what they did with Douglas Luiz they sold him at his absolute top got the max profits and he went into Juventus and actually fell off that's why Villa are good.

32:12That's what they do with all these young players. They bring, like, these not young players, but, um, solid-bounded players. They bring them in and, like, sell them.

32:18Theo:They just lost Henderson. You want to get rid of another player that kind of fills that? Yeah, it's fine. They'll make some profits, man. He's not even that good. He's not even that good. It's all about profits, isn't it? Matt Ysjensen's not even that good. I've got a guy that's been struggling to break into the team after his injury, Josh De Silva.

32:30Reev:Oh, but he's loved there. He can get back in. I love him from putting manager. He started there as a youth player, He can get back in He's 27

32:36Theo:You could get a decent fee For him

32:37Reev:So I think we say Josh Silva Just to Silva Every year

32:41Theo:Yeah because you can't You've said You probably said this last year Yeah You can get back into the team He hasn't done it It's Damsgaard in that role Isn't it They love him there They do love him there Yeah as they should Because he's a homegrown talent They've actually made some

32:53Reev:Good signings by the way Cullen Wilson Jed Nantone Sangare Jed Nantone's a good one Yeah some good signings For Brentford I went with Ethan Penning Just because I think He's not going to start This season He wouldn't be able to sell him mate. He wouldn't want to leave to like a League 1 Championship club. He wouldn't want to leave to a Championship club or League 1 when he's settled. He'll retire there. He'd go to like a Hull. At 35, he ain't moving anywhere, mate.

33:18Theo:Hull are getting really busy with it, aren't they? With Ethan Pitt, yeah, I suppose. He wouldn't shift his whole family. Brighton's really obvious to me. Carl Rushworth to Coventry.

33:29Reev:Boring. Why? Well, because he was probably one of their better

33:32Theo:plays in the promotion charge and he's a keeper that's needed and they'll probably get what 20 million for him 25 million for him I went for a different one different vein some football manager knowledge here boys I went for Yal Koo yeah he's a 20 year old player quite versatile you get a good bit of money from him but he's I can tell you he's not going to end up he's not going to end up being that good why not because I've bought him for Millwall so is it a huge player is he no he's like 20 year old he's quite decent versatile but like I think it's one of those where he's Ian Brickening. What's his name?

34:04Let's get him salt. Yal Koo, yeah.

34:06Reev:How do you spell that? Will he stop ringing me? Fuck off. By the way, Rave, Coventry's set to sign Carl Rushworth for a club record 22.5 million. I think he was always going to go back there. And that Yal Koo, was that on loan at Swansea last year, was he? That's what I mean. Didn't even know. He played a lot of games in Swansea. Get him, God. He's not Brickening.

34:27Theo:It wasn't an obligation to buy, was it? He just returned back on loan. Yeah, no, you're correct. I went for Evan Ferguson No

34:35Reev:No he's going to be starting man

34:38Theo:They just got rid of Welbeck

34:39Reev:I know but I don't think He didn't do very well at Roma last year I thought about this and I was like I think you could still get Herczler wants to play him Is he going to start? Yes

34:52Theo:I think you might see Brighton

34:55Reev:Going in for another striker I don't know He's only 21 I know he's only 21 but he didn't cut the mustard yeah because he had surgery at the back end of the road you have to think mate these days there's no strikers like who are they there's no strikers as you say get a lot of profit for him no no no it's not the same I think Hurtzner really likes him I can't see him going for his sake I want him to have a good season but he could go elsewhere

35:21Theo:I was going to it was him or

35:24Reev:Rushworth who I was going to suggest but yeah so if it was one of the two it's not out of the way it's the hardest position to reply

35:29Theo:and obviously Welbeck's gone.

35:31Reev:I know, but I think they're going to go in. By the way, you did the whole argument to me. It was like, oh, Madiwecki's our only backup. Madiwecki's our only backup. Then you'd go on to them. They've just sold Welbeck and now you're seeing to sell their only other striker. Madiwecki was there last season. I know that... Mevon Ferguson was on loan last season as well. I know. They used to not having him where he could go in for another striker special. No, it's... It's a hard position to replace.

35:51Theo:They need depth up there because they're in Europe now as well. They're going to be playing another game every week. That's a stinker. it's not a stinker but I think I think I think specifically Evan Fogusson is probably not the one to choose because he's got there's so much potential with it he actually fell for that do you think we'll see him because you know what he got the hat trick he was linked to like wasn't it 100 million he should have sold it he should have sold it he's got a big drop off you think you think he'll come back I think Hursler will get the best out of him yeah he's still only 21 he's still young he just had mad surgery didn't he in order to sort the problem mad surgery

36:23Reev:I hope for his sake he does well I do because he's a good lad Chelsea

36:28Theo:could be a million players I'll win Nicholas Jackson he's back he's Newcastle linked isn't he he's back he ain't coming to us De Sassi De Lap I think they have a lot of options for people they can sell yeah but surely the centre backs are the ones where you start you know what you're right

36:47Reev:they have so many defenders I mean I will say

36:50Theo:you'll get 40 million I could see an Ever Ferguson sale and then them getting a De Lap in to be fair something like that. Like, DeLapp could go to, like, a Brighton. That's not even an upgrade. I agree. But, like, I was just a bit... I agree. I was just trying to say, like, there was a replacement out there if they wanted. But no, they're trying to sell DeLapp and there's teams who need strikers. It would make sense. He's not going to be getting much game time. They have so many excess players, it's crazy. Yeah. Yeah, but Liam DeLapp wouldn't be the first name I'd think of getting rid of. Surely, like, one of the 18 centre-backs.

37:21Theo:Well, Jackson over DeLapp Yeah, even so. You get more money from him. Ah, it's a stinker. Is it? It's saying the person who they should sell, they should definitely sell DeLapp. There's a million, like, that's like a weird rebuttal. It's like, there's like 10 players they could sell. Where do you think DeLapp? It doesn't mean that DeLapp's wrong. No, I didn't say it was wrong. It's just not, that's not where my brain would have started. Mine went straight to DeLapp. Get him going. What kind of? Because if he has, because I thought, can I just say, the problem with DeLapp, if he has another bad season, his value's got, they're lucky that he's actually retained value at the moment after last season.

37:53Another stinker, you're not going to get the same money back.

37:55Theo:He's going to retain value if he doesn't play. No, you lose value in that in itself. Yeah, but if you don't have any bad performances, also the wages he'll be on will be higher as well. You should sell him now whilst he actually has made... You should sell him now whilst he actually maintains some sort of value.

38:09Reev:Lapsed wages won't be crazy. Yeah, no, but they'll be significant.

38:12Theo:He's got them for nine years, hasn't he? The point about the fact that they could actually sell him for what they bought him for, or maybe even make a profit, because that's what Chelsea do, is very valid. 100 grand a week. It's tons, lad. It's for Chelsea, though. Yeah, it's still a significant wage compared to some sort of backup centre-back. Five years remaining. That's what I mean, mate. That would be so good. That's definitely right for me, by the way. It's one of the first people they should look at. They've just signed in Welbeck as well. It's going Brighton. Apologise. Have you read this thing yet?

38:44100k, retained value. He's on a five-year contract. I didn't say it was the wrong suggestion. I apologise he's the first name

38:50Theo:on your sheet no no surely one of the centre backs if they're just they do have a lot of defenders in itself well De Lapp's been linked to Forrest Brighton and Everton linked to Forrest yeah well that aligns with my Forrest one anyway so that's good who do you think you'd be best for them three De Lapp Brighton I think Brighton yeah Brighton'd be good I don't he'd never he'd suit that Forrest and the Glasner man counter-attacking football still doesn't make sense I never quite understood that. Leeds, apparently. He doesn't excite me that much as a striker.

39:22Reev:Leeds? Apparently. That's not bad. Some reports. Who's next? Coventry. Now, let me tell you about who they need to sell. Yeah. Miguel Angel Brau. Oh, yeah, really good. Obviously, they got him on a free last year. He's only played 11 times, and he's just not quite broken in, but you could get a bit of profit from him. After signing on a free, you could sell him for a few. Tell me a bit more about him, Theo. Good player.

39:46Theo:I'm not going to claim anything. I know anything about that. You haven't done your research?

39:49Reev:Did he get the game time he deserved?

39:50Theo:No, I mean, I'm not going to say the reason why I finished. But why? Why didn't he get the game? Because there's better players ahead of him?

39:55Reev:So he didn't deserve it. Well, he's a nice lad, though, isn't he? So he does deserve it. I like your tick, but I really do.

40:04Theo:And I think he's a solid left back,

40:06Reev:but unfortunately the left back ahead of him was better.

40:10Theo:I've actually got the other left back that I'm going to say. Oh, so you think Brau should deserve more game time? Yeah, I've gone Jake Bidwell.

40:15Reev:Why is that? Well, because he's 33. I don't think necessarily well you don't think experience that Coventry is needed in the Premier League

40:21Theo:Bidwell only played 14 games last season that's a stinker so he's not necessarily he's like probably going to be phased out in terms of age for the team Coventry are that's true Coventry are looking to improve you want to sell a senior figure when they're going through this time where they're going to need leadership yeah because they're buying in big experienced players no no but they weren't they don't have the morale and the cohesion with the team they can't come in and just be a leader it's terrible that guy's a club legend so I've been there what six years right the right answer is actually Joel Joel you can't even say his name so are you calling me out for someone that I actually think should maybe come to the end of his career at the club Joel Latte Joel Latte what the centre half he only played 16 times Joel Latte Latte Latte Latte Latte Latte Latte Latte Latte Latte Latte Latte Latte Latte that's the exact same reason as to why I suggested Bidwell who?

41:18Theo:this guy's 26 I haven't I haven't even said a reason yet a lot younger you just said his reason and then started thinking I said it I didn't even say a reason go on what are you going to say? no no what is my reason that you think I said? also Lewis I didn't even say a reason all I said was a name he just preempted

41:32Reev:you say his name sorry go on that was so bad that was mental I said his name and you went that's the exact same reason as mine yeah he's not very good lads centre-back 26 year old he's worth like 2 mil so get him gone and also if you're a commentator and you're watching his name's way too hard to say so you've got to get him sold for our ease

41:54Theo:right so your reasoning is his name is unpronounceable then or you've got to sell him from the club yeah and also he's shit he's an international for Jamaica

42:03Reev:Jamaica that was it yeah Jamaica be crazy over there hey Crystal Palace I've gone for Eddie and Katia so did I

42:10Theo:Matteta and JSL both ahead of them in the pecking order

42:13Reev:Yeah, and I just think he needs to be playing footy. I agree. And if Mateta's not going to leave, which doesn't look like he is, they've got Strand-Larsen. I don't know if the... You don't need three strikers.

42:24Theo:Yeah, I agree. I don't think the new manager necessarily will prefer him to... Not similar levels. I have gone bald. I've gone crazy. I've used my brain. 30-year-old, sell him at his peak.

42:40Reev:Invest, Munoz. He doesn't want to be there. Why does he not want to be there? He wants his move. Get him a move. You could get a significant amount. His value, his value. He's arguably like their second best player. His value from today is going to be dropping, dropping, dropping, baby. Let's reinvest. Let's reinvigorate this team. No, because he had a great World Cup,

42:58Theo:he won't be dropping. No, it will. Moving forward, just as easy. Once you get past 30, like it's natural decline, unless you're Rodri. Not true. Is that the case anymore? Yes, it is. By the way, yes, it is true. That is just definitely true. Once you hit 30, you're right. What you say at 30, your value is slowly, slowly going down because a team can't, yes, they're obviously outliers when you pick one Ballon d 'Or contender or Rodri. No, he wasn't a Ballon d 'Or contender at 30, was he? But Harry Kane wasn't a Ballon d 'Or contender at 30. Can we acknowledge the difference of Harry Kane and Munoz?

43:31Van Dijk,

43:32Reev:when he hit 30, he was better at that. Ronaldo has more goals post-30 and pre-30. Have you noticed that you're naming players who are world-class and comparing it to Munoz? Do you think Munoz is one of the better

43:40Theo:right-backs in world football? Do you think he's world class? Do you think next season his value stays the same? If he has another season like he did this season. When he's 31, someone's going to sign him for... How much do you think he's worth now? He is a machine, by the way. He plays pretty much every minute of every game. How much do you think you sign him for now? Aesthetic freak. 30 million.

43:59Reev:I think you can get more than 30 million. You can get way more than 30 million. Way more than 30 million. But his transfer value is currently 21 million. Use your brain, not that. How much do you think you get for him? 40 mil. 50 mil. No way. And you think next season he's worth 50 mil. You could get 50 mil now, but you wouldn't get 50 mil next season. His value is going to slowly go down.

44:17Theo:That is just a fact. He's one of those athletic freaks. It doesn't matter. It's a fact three because the teams know they aren't going to sell him on. But Crystal Palace shouldn't sell him. They need him.

44:25Reev:Crystal Palace did she have no players. Yeah, Palace shouldn't be selling him. I agree. They are an empty squad. This is why it's frustrating when we do this should buy him. This is why it's frustrating when we do this sell because you need to... This is under presumption that Crystal Palace are actually going to get busy and they don't often really get busy. the side one player example because they have three strikers yeah I don't know why Palace aren't signing players if I'm honest it must be really annoying being a Palace fan yeah my mate's fuming yeah but like so this is obviously under the understanding that they would actually go out and do some fucking business

44:54Theo:I think that's like you you just you're actually in a position that's like kind of good in their squad now selling at the peak bro no

45:03Reev:they just lost the quad they need the good defenders selling at the peak

45:06Theo:and also they're going to be changing to a back four as well right

45:08Reev:under this new guy. They desperately need to keep holding the Njord. Who's the new guy again?

45:14Theo:P.S. Sarge. Pugue or something? Pugues. Pugue. Pugue? Reeves Leg Pugue. Yeah. It's P.S. Sarge. Sarge. I can feel the comments. I've blended the names there. I feel them digging into me. You've had a stinker there. No, that was good. Reeve Everton. Oh, sorry. I went with...

45:34Reev:What, you're written two names? Yeah. You're thinking Beto or Barry? Yeah.

45:39Theo:I'll go Beto Barry's youngest I said that's exactly what I did for that reason yeah who who have you got because they're going to get realistically what Tony was linked with joining they're probably going to get a striker I know I was on

45:56Reev:team Barry last year I was big team Barry I actually think Beto's better Beto better

46:03Theo:and I just don't I'm not

46:04Reev:I know Barry's younger but but the question I

46:08Theo:ask back to you is who would you want moving forwards as a second striker? Better. Would you? Not the younger one?

46:15Reev:No, you probably want a bit more experience. I don't mind either. You have to sell one of them. There's no way you can go on with having both. They've got a sign of striker that is going to be first choice. Does it not depend on who your first choice striker is as well? Do you not want a different option?

46:26Theo:The first choice is one of the two that are currently available. But the new one

46:29Reev:should be the first choice. Yeah, absolutely. Correct. Yeah. But I'm saying sell Barry. You could get more money for him as well.

46:36Theo:You could get more money for him. actually a logical point. Yeah, you're right there. Because Beto's what? 33? Wow. I just think... No, Beto's 28. Beto's 28?

46:48Reev:Yeah. It's not that old, bro. Where have I read? 33, Jesus. Beto's 28.

46:54Theo:Oh, man.

46:55Reev:Yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, in that case, yeah. Barry's 23.

46:59Theo:23.

47:00Reev:Yeah, that's where I've got. Yeah, you can get final money from Barry.

47:02Theo:Yeah, you're probably right there. Go on. Although I did see that Illiman and Dye is linked away too. but that's not someone should sell yeah which is the next one Fullham Harrison Reid Harrison Reid as well

47:14Reev:I see it's time to go I thought that but then he just produces a few Thunderbolts every season

47:20Theo:he's not shit but I think it is time for him to go

47:23Reev:do you think having like a squad player at that age is quite good you can come on they've got a lot they've got a lot aged squad players if you want a guy I mean even Tom Cairn he's like what 40 it's a pensioners they need to get rid of someone one. Tete. Tete? Yeah, the right back. Nah, man. Why? Mate, Castagne's going to start over him. I don't think he will. Well, he did last season. Is that true? I think that's true. Nah, Tete, you could get a good bit of money from Dutch right back. Is that true? I love how we all contradict each other as we go through this.

47:56Theo:Tete was the starting right back.

47:58Reev:Not for the end of the season, it's Castagne. Is that not due to it? Castagne actually had a decent World Cup as well for Belgium. Yeah, I know, but I don't think you get rid of either of those. They're both old. Yes, he's only 30. He played a lot of games. Yeah, he did. They both played equal games. Cassano will start over Tete, I think. I don't think so. I think so, especially after the World Cup. Who starts a right back in the first game of the season? Tete or Cassano? I don't know. I think Cassano. I'll go Kenny Tete. £20. But the fact it's close, don't you want that close competition? Yeah, exactly.

48:30You want close competition. It's really important to have competitive competition for players. We're not that close. That's how you make people better. Not that close. No, yes, that cause. I don't think you necessarily sell a guy

48:39Theo:that played like over 25 games in the Prem last season, but you're not going to get loads of money for him either.

48:45Reev:Harris-Reed was the easy option, man.

48:47Theo:No, but you know that because you want competition for players. Because I think they should get rid of him. I think they should get rid of him.

48:52Reev:What about the amazing goals he scores? What, against Liverpool? Oh my God, that was an absolute poo-poo. Yeah. That was a poo-poo. All right, well, fine. I'm sticking with Tete. we got whole city this is hard I'll run with the Buca Mara speak for yourself that is such a bad tip man speak for yourself why would you even say him

49:15Theo:because I actually I was going to write nobody but then I thought well you have to I'll have a look at who's actually linked away and then just put a person there

49:22Reev:oh you haven't even used your own bread now let me tell you about the centre half who was on loan at San Diego FC yeah Paddy McNair oh yeah no he's X-Man United yeah I thought I recognised that yeah you know he's not obviously first choice there he's 31 he could get a move elsewhere he's probably got a bit of game time in him why not go back to the MLS enjoy your days out in America yeah that's the strut

49:47Theo:that I ran with so I don't even mind that personal returns on loan sell him on but is he not going to be does he not have like he did play for Hull last year but that's what I mean like is he not decent enough to compete in the Premier League nah man nah wrong answers boys now this one I go down badly with the Tigers. I think he's alright, he's alright, isn't he?

50:05Reev:Seen much of him, have you?

50:06Theo:Paddy McNair? Yeah. Yeah, over his career, I've watched enough of, yeah.

50:10Reev:No, you haven't.

50:10Theo:I have. No, you haven't. What?

50:13Reev:What? Where was he at before San Diego in Hull? Mr. Paddy McNair watcher. Yep. Surely you would know this off the door. You would know this. As a person who watches Paddy McNair. What we enclave, actually, that he's watched Paddy McNair. He said he's watched, he said he's followed his career, so let's have a look. Where was he at before he was at Hull? I've watched tons about Paddy McNair in my time. No, I didn't say tons, but I'm aware of this. Where was he at? I'm the resident Paddy McNair expert.

50:36Theo:He was at a club with red and white stripes, but I don't know which one that is. What, the club before he was at that one? Sunderland. Yeah, is it Sunderland? No, it wasn't.

50:44Reev:What?

50:44Theo:He's played for Sunderland.

50:46Reev:He was at West Brom. Yeah. Played three times. And then he was at Middlesbrough for about seven years, and Sunderland was back in 2017, bro. Okay, right. Well, that's fine. But I do remember him playing... You remembered him from 10 years ago. Yeah. What's his best attribute?

51:00Theo:ball playing left foot centre back he's Northern Irish

51:04Reev:isn't he he is Northern Irish yeah he's also right footed as well damn I went Lewis Coyle I know Lewis Coyle never chat shit because we are the police I went Lewis Coyle aren't we I went Lewis Coyle fundamental in their promotion run but unfortunately lads when you what when you proceed lads when you proceed to a different division you're going to have to strengthen I think yeah it's a great one he's 30 year old you go back to the championship you will get a few million and reinvest in some premier league experience on that right back position yep absolutely where it was going yeah absolutely the cop and the whole

51:39Theo:fans like that is fucking shit why are you getting rid of lewis kyle that's kind of the same thing as the coventry situation isn't it yeah like the players that were great for them in their promotion run are probably going to get game time in the premier league yeah uh what about ipswich town i went with feather gene why because you can make money off him oh i don't like him as well I think and he's young he's young enough that you could sell him and replace him I went furlong

52:07Theo:why why out of interest well you asked me why and I said I said because no no obviously trying to keep themselves in the league you might as well make money off players no furlong you just like you just know when you know you know the legs are gone I've actually the balls I've actually got the football before the football

52:27Reev:I've actually got the correct answer here. And it's actually the only one on this panel who has actually done a bit of research. I've done research. What are you talking about? These rules are just in our defence, in our defence, we will come to learn your teams all over again, but I haven't seen the championship last year. So, Ipswich Town have obviously made a few signings. Two goalkeepers they've bought. Two. So I'm here to tell you they should sell Christian Walton, their number one goalkeeper. I don't know if that goes down well, they've just bought two keepers

52:55Theo:and one of them Is he going to start? Is he a start-up keeper? Which one is he? Schweppen Schweppen 11 million pound Are you sure he's going to be the starting keeper? He'll be the starting keeper

53:05Reev:Yeah, Schweppen will be the starting keeper next season Yeah, I'll sign loads of players Yeah What was what? 31 is he? 30 Schweppen will be the starting keeper next season I don't mind that one Yeah There's no point having five keepers in there That would be ridiculous It would be ridiculous They'd just sign two keepers That'd be crazy Why are they signing two keepers? Because they'll sell them Would you not want to sell the second choice and you move the first choice down into second choice? No. No. Okay. Okay. Who's next?

53:32Theo:Next up we have Leeds.

53:33Reev:Leeds,

53:35Theo:Joe Gellhart. Still knocking around. I know he's like one of the boys at the club, but I think him personally deserves game time. And you can, you could probably get a decent amount from him in all honesty. Yeah. Well, unfortunately, he's not going to play, is he? Unfortunately. With all the, Harry Wilson and everyone else that's coming in. Well,

53:54Reev:speaking of someone who's not going to play because of Harry Wilson, I think this guy's shit. Who? Nonto Yeah he was another one That I thought about Good off the bench He's crap bro No I agree He's actually shit I back it

54:05Theo:Because it was between Nonto and Gale You'd be able to sell him For like good money as well Because you just For some reason He's the kind of player Who would actually go For a little bit of something He's only 22 as well Yeah I went Tanaka He's shit What? He's fucking shit That's not a good suggestion Tanaka? I'm selling Tanaka You think Tanaka's shit? Yeah he's shit man No he's not They're in a time Where they sign and play Wasn't he one of their Best players last? especially in their promotion look what about wheel and deal the promotion charge that was fucking years ago last season he was nothing two years ago it was two years ago he was great he was good last season he wasn't anything special last year they have Sean Longstaff they don't need Tanaka they're in a different role a little bit but sure no they don't look you can't keep every player forever you have to progress and to progress you have to sell a player who's half decent to sign in someone who's really good you just said he was shit yeah but you think he's you just said you've got to sell a player to half decent and bring in better players he had a good season last year I told you he didn't yes he did fucking shit mate he played 28 appearances in the Premier League for his first season get him gone no that's a terrible one yeah that might be bad

55:09Reev:yeah I don't understand why you've suggested that that's actually you're actually dumb dumb

55:13Theo:yeah I don't think so why would you not sell someone that's surplus to the squad rather than someone that gets over 70 % of games because they spend a lot of you they have to wheel and deal a bit when you lead yeah so wheel and deal other players that are already on the edge. Yeah, but you don't get much money for them because they're sheep. You do, they're young. Nonto's 22 in Italian. No, I'd take... You can get money. Yeah, that's a good... What? You said he's Italian. Why is that relevant? Because... Nonto's good and he's Italian. It's like, why is that relevant? Clubs in Europe would buy a player of that profile.

55:45Theo:He's Italian. No, he's Italian. Exactly. It's like, right, which one should we go? This one's from Malaysia, this one's Italian. Oh, I have to get the Italian. It's not relevant. It's who's better at football.

55:55Reev:Yeah, that's so true. Lewis has had your pants down. I've had your pants down. You had a stinger. You had a stinger. Next team, you had a stinger. You had a stinger. Why would you even suggest Tanaka, though? Because you have to wheel and deal, isn't it? He didn't even know who he was. I'm trying to wheel and deal. Yeah, I don't think he did. Did you go through the squad and go, he'll do. No, I've had a look. I've had a look. Look, he's had a decent season, but you have to wheel and deal. For the first one in the Premier League, keeping him up. First of all, you said he had a shit season. Yeah.

56:15Yeah, I've said everyone's shit on my list. Realistically, when you say shit, you don't want to shit.

56:18Reev:Zach is a very good footballer and Leeds need him. Yeah. They need a wheel and deal, brother. They don't need Nanto. Yeah, or Jogo Hart. Really? He's good off the bench. He's not. Selling young players. Nanto, I bet Nanto had a good season. No, he didn't. Was he? I reckon he scored. I don't think he had a good season. Zero goal, one assist, 20 appearances. I actually wish I said Nanto myself.

56:37Theo:Did he have over five appearances starting? I don't think he did. I actually wish I said Nanto, if I'm honest. Because he's Italian and people would buy him. Don't try and flip this on me, mate. You've had a howling. I haven't tried. I've succeeded. No. Well, now I'm laughing at you. The comments are going, way, the non-tour thing. What?

56:53Reev:Here we are. He got 19 sub appearances out of 23.

56:58Theo:He's good. No, I said he's good off the bench. He's more than five. Yeah, exactly. He's good off the bench. And he's Italian. How many minutes did he actually play?

57:06Reev:Minutes made 524.

57:09Theo:What is that? Like six full games. Yeah, but I mean like in terms of power appearance. I don't know. Who's next?

57:15Reev:from one Japanese player to another Liverpool I am selling endo It never really worked out for him at Liverpool. And it's time to go, blood.

57:26Theo:I feel like it's a little bit of an easy one. A bit boring, you could say.

57:29Reev:Why is that easy? Kind of boring. You're not going out of there. You're stating the obvious, bro. That's literally what we've been told to do. You've literally said, one of your players, by the way, you said earlier, has been linked away. Yeah. Yeah, I know.

57:43Theo:Yeah, because I have no knowledge of whole city.

57:46Reev:You've watched Liverpool for a long while. And they should sell Endo. He's surplus to require me. You've literally just said to Lewis, why didn't you pick a player with surplus to requirement? And that's exactly what I've done.

57:55Theo:He gets brought on to seal games, though, doesn't he? Does he? Well, yeah. Bro, he's not needed. He's surplus to requirements. Yeah, I've gone with the same. Harvey Elliott. I thought he was going to say it. Endo. Can you imagine? No, honestly, man. I think that's terrible. I also went with Endo. Yeah, I've got Harvey Elliott, but then I've also put a little sneaky one. Curtis Jones.

58:15Reev:Yeah, you say he's been brought on to seal. He's made eight games last year in the Premier League. Probably late on. Bro, you chuck shit, man. Had he sealed every one of those games. You honestly chuck waffle. You could say... I mean, I... He gets brought on to see... He's played eight times in the... No, I wanted... Let's get it up.

58:34Theo:I wanted to... Endo. I wanted to counteract your thing, but in all honesty, it's just... It's a good answer. Yeah, I mean, I... The initial one that I thought of was Endo, but then it's like, well...

58:46Reev:How was it? I thought you said there's a shit answer. There is a shit answer.

58:49Theo:It's just staring you in the face. It's staring you in the face, though, isn't it? It's like one start last season. It's like getting rid of the grandad that's hanging around the club, mate. It's the big cock in the changing room. They only signed him a couple of years ago, mate. He's not that old. He's 33. Yeah, it's not that old. Yeah, it is. Yeah, it's quite old. No, it's not. They should sell him. Curtis Jones or Harvey Elliott is. Yeah, that's what I've got.

59:09Reev:You think they should go to Jones? Curtis Jones followed up with Shobbislai recently as well.

59:13Theo:I don't think he's very... Or he's more unhappy at Liverpool now, isn't he? Yeah. But I think Harvey Elliott Is probably the one That should be

59:21Reev:Ah Welcome Lucas Honacek I missed the Nathan Ake To Fenerbahce For 8.5 million That's a good sign For Fenerbahce Who's next Wow Man City Grealish This is hard Oh shit Yeah that's good Oh I've got Savino That's still good What have you said If it's not Grealish Or Savino I don't know who you said Well Grealish apparently I don't know how true this is But Atletico What Grealish He's going Madrid He's training in Mallorca At the moment are you Grealish?

59:49Theo:Allegedly. That's Spain. There you go see learning Spanish.

59:55Reev:That'd be a good signing for Grealish to go there get out the English spotlight you know. I've gone for Calvin Phillips. Yeah. He's gone. No he's not. I'm sure he is gone. Is he still in the squad? He's bro he's a Manchester he's just been getting launched.

1:00:08Theo:He's a Manchester City player. Fucking hell. He's on the books. He needs to leave. That's kind of sad wasn't it? He's also getting

1:00:14Reev:a big paycheck so if I was Calvin Phillips I'd stay there. Yeah, honestly, there's a reason he's not been sold.

1:00:20Theo:It's not quite Scott Carson, though, is it? It's not quite like a, oh, lovable around the club guy. Yeah, I wish we could get him off the weird.

1:00:27Reev:And he's like, that's a lot more than probably what Calvin Phillips does. Is that Heskey's son? It's Heskey's son, yeah. Where do you think that, it's really sad, but Calvin Phillips' transfer at City ranks amongst the worst transfers ever. It's definitely up there. It's so sad. I just don't understand what happened. Because he was amazing at Leeds. I don't understand how it happened. And in the Euros. How do you have such a fall-off like that? It's not even... It wouldn't even be like a fall-off. He just massively over-performed for a bit. Like, you know what I mean? Like, it wasn't his... No, that's not true.

1:00:58No, because he... He over-performed.

1:01:00Theo:It was great at international level and... I know, but in that period, like, he must have been playing with some sort of, like, crazy... Because his overall level has never been there again. Do you know what I mean? Do you remember Guardiola accusing him of being overweight and not fit?

1:01:12Reev:I think it would be... I think it's probably a personal thing. Off the pitch kind of thing. Yeah, you never know what's happening, dear. It happens sometimes, doesn't it? You see him with Dele Alli. He could go to one of the promoted teams and try and fight for a place there. He was at Sheffield United yesterday. Yesterday, was he Sheffield United last season? Yeah, he was at Sheffield United last season, yeah. I thought he stayed there.

1:01:33Theo:He's actually just been floating around, Luke. Yeah, imagine under Mureska. He pulls Mureska in day one. He's like, manager, give me another shot. I have a chance. Do you think he was? No.

1:01:45Reev:Mureska's like, who's... Manchester United I've gone for Ralkers-Mashford

1:01:50Theo:oh yeah nice Rashford oh and Onana Onana's still there is he back for his loan yeah I said Onana Trasbol was it Trasemport yeah yeah Trasemport I actually think they should keep Rashford it's like Carrick I think Carrick and Rashford had a good season Carrick can take it I'm like I think definitely keep him he's a good player you could get loads and he might not want to play for United I think he I don't think he has any other options or come on he's only had Turkey like he hasn't had who's going to sign Rashford it'll be wages though

1:02:21Reev:wouldn't it no generally who's going to use aren't going to do it like he's not good enough to justify those wages

1:02:25Theo:if Vinny doesn't get signed Arsenal could sign I don't think he'll go get Rashford I wouldn't want you to get Rashford he's decent he is good but like he's very good he is really good I don't know I don't like that in terms of the profile that Arsenal would want and if I'm at United I'm like why are we selling a player who's good enough to play for the champions

1:02:43Reev:because it's clearly a clear thing with Marcus Rashford and Man United at the moment where it's just not it's not working out it's come to the end of its tether it used to be with Ten Hag and stuff is there any chance

1:02:53Theo:that he starts ahead of Cunha realistically in the new set up yeah he could no I don't think he does no they play like the 10s now don't they I always just feel like Rashford should stay at Man United he feels like just a Man United player well he was a Barcelona player last year yeah and then Gordon took his spot yeah that's a bit pink

1:03:12Reev:Newcastle United should sell Bruno G yeah I've done that Willock Bruno G no they should sell Bruno G Bruno G yeah correct answer Bruno G and look brand new sign and Lucas Hornacek wow no you should sell Bruno G Bruno G is the correct answer yeah you should sell Bruno G I disagree no you should sell Bruno G over Willock we're going to keep him he doesn't even want to be there anymore man he does he doesn't mind would you take

1:03:32Theo:would you take 80 million for Bruno G at the age of years no or 5 million 5 million for Joe Willock I would I could acknowledge it's a great deal but I would not it's not worth it for Newcastle because if he doesn't want to be there and then what's the point? It's not that he'd rather leave. It's not like he hates, like he doesn't want to, like, Isaac didn't want to be there. It's more like he'd rather leave. Yeah, he'd rather leave. Guys, someone get me to. Do you know what it is, right? Okay, he's halfway inside Megan Fox, but Scarlett Johansson's over there. What does that mean? So he's like, I want to go, Scarlett Johansson, but if I stay here with Megan Fox, it's not a worst case scenario.

1:04:07But he wouldn't be halfway inside that week. No, yeah, halfway because he's on the way of exiting. He's exiting. Oh, Oh, that's grim. You filthy pig. He's on the way of exiting. He was full throttle penetration. And now he's slowly... Oh, that's disgusting.

1:04:23Theo:That is awful. He has a wife and kids, man. Hopefully he unfollows you after hearing that. No, no, yeah. Cut, cut, cut. We'll clip that up and I'll send it to him on video. Cut. It was an analogy. Yeah, there's your cell, Bruno G.

1:04:37Reev:It's anal. What? Reeve, not in Forest. We have the same person, I reckon. Go on. 3, 2, 1 Chris Wood Igor Jesus

1:04:46Theo:No way! I went on one year because you get more money than Chris Wood Chris Wood would just be like a sale of a 34 year old Chris Wood's class why are you selling him? Because his time is done now

1:04:54Reev:It's not done

1:04:56Theo:He's grappling half a round I actually put any of the striker Chris Wood's Sasha One Year whichever striker is surplus to Glasner's Igor Jesus No because he'd be first choice He's like their future He's shit though He had a bad season He is bad He's better than people think he is He's bad. Did you watch him at any point? How many did he score last season? Well, he got two in a single game. Yeah, but at least more than both. I could do that on a good day. What? J.J. J.J. Wasn't he one of their bigger signings? Six Premier League goals. He was, but he flopped, mate. Six Premier League goals, 16 in all comps.

1:05:31For 37 matches.

1:05:33Theo:16 in the season isn't bad.

1:05:35Reev:It's all right. He's a northern nasty performance. Because I just think he's a journeyman almost, isn't he? So it's time to find him a new club where he can go Brighton.

1:05:45Theo:No. I don't know why he'd sell him. He's one of the two, though. He's one of the two, yeah. He's one of the two, especially if they're looking at Liam DeLapp as well. I didn't know that with Brighton. How many did Chris Wood score last season?

1:05:55Reev:By the way, out of the three strikers, you said the wrong one. No, no. You said the wrong one. Chris Wood's better than him. He's not first choice. But why would you even... You're not even going to get money for him.

1:06:07Theo:That's what I said in one year. In one year. Did Chris Wood get the least amount of goals? He was so good, had his injury. He came back and was shit.

1:06:12Reev:I think Chris Wood scored the least amount of goals out of all three of the strikers last season. Yeah, he got five goals last season.

1:06:20Theo:Well, they have too many number nine. I know he was injured for a bit. And if they get another one under Glasner. And when you got four. Yeah. Who's the next? Yeah. Who's the next? Sunderland. I mean, he actually performed all right for them, but in terms of a player that you could actually flip, I went with Simon and Ding Same Oh really? Yeah I did You could get money for him I didn't like that signer When they made it I put Isidore What?

1:06:46Reev:Why should they sell Isidore? Well they've got Broby And they don't really need Isidore He's a championship player He's good He's not good He's goal Isidore's not good He's like But surely suddenly They need two decent strikers Yeah they need backup nights Yeah well Naturally like Again It's the same thing When you were saying Get rid of Fulham's right Back Tete Like naturally you presume they would replace him. But like they've moved past Isidore. They're looking to sell him anyways. And you'd probably get good money from a championship player. You called me out for

1:07:14Theo:someone being linked away and you just mentioned that yourself. Well it's relevant. That's not why I picked Have you seen an article? I didn't go and search it up. I don't know if he's still linked. I just remember right at the start I've seen stuff because I follow football. Let's have a look. Isidore transfer news please. Sell Isidore. I mean I admit to the whole one because I didn't know who to sell from this squad. No like the fact a lot of these players we mentioned are probably linked with moves away West Ham get a chance they are a championship team £20 million rated striker yeah Isidol's not good enough man for the prime who are the Haiti players to look out for against Scotland if someone want to progress obviously got Europa League should they be looking at you know better players than Isidol really definitely like look they move past like sell for£20 million and get a better player but they already are trying to buy everyone anyway Something could go for like a Dilap if they wanted to at this point.

1:08:10Is that not great? Do you rate him way more than... Yeah, more than Isidore. Come on.

1:08:14Reev:Isidore did all right for something. I actually think they're kind of similar levels. Dilap's better than Isidore.

1:08:19Theo:Fuck. But neither of them are better than Brobby. Yeah. Are they? No one's better than Brobby. So like all you're doing is replacing one... Dilap is better than Isidore. That's not even a question. Isidore's not... It is a question.

1:08:32Reev:I'm questioning it. You shouldn't be. one played in the World Cup one didn't oh yeah that's true yeah yeah Tottenham Hotspur obviously they've signed Tonali Fernandes Van Hecker Dubravka Robertson Sanessi

1:08:47Theo:I think it's quite easy isn't it get rid of Romero Romero

1:08:50Reev:why did you leave Cole Ramsey off is that Jacob Ramsey's brother yeah

1:08:55Theo:Ramsey Bolton

1:08:57Reev:yeah the Romero one they probably should sell him at this point I reckon I think that is correct but I thought that was the obvious he's a bad egg isn't he yeah That was an obvious answer, that one. For a different answer. Who did you pick for the pool again? Endo. You didn't even think about Endo. I actually think... No, he actually said immediately. That's the obvious one. I think this is also quite an obvious one. Richarlison they should sell. And here's why. He scored! What? He scored against Chelsea!

1:09:25Theo:They have a choice now.

1:09:27Reev:He's got less than 12 months left in his contract. So either they have to choose between offering Richarlison a new contract him running out his contract and going on a three or selling him now? Wait, he got a goal in pre-season. They'd be Chelsea. Get Chelsea. The World Cup. The bloody club World Cup winners, mate.

1:09:44Theo:Why are you getting rid of him? I just told you three reasons.

1:09:47Reev:Yeah. I would argue as well. I actually don't mind it. That's actually a valid shout. His contract is running out. Yeah. So they've got to choose whether to give him a year and go on a three, give him a new contract or sell him now. I think sell him.

1:09:57Theo:Sell him's fine.

1:09:58Reev:Maybe actually Richardison goes back to Everton.

1:10:01Theo:I think he's better than both Barry and Becker. Yeah, I don't mind it. that's a decent shout who's next that's all the clubs mate that's the entire 20 yeah oh what I've got five more teams here if any of those players that are watching that we suggested the names of you're not actually I'm sorry guys Lewis doesn't actually think of shit he just says that about everyone I just thought I'd say it because when I don't know how to argue oh god right now guys obviously Chelsea have signed Danny Welbeck and Jordan Henson quiz question can you tell me the combined ages of both 40 Combined age Combined age

1:10:33Reev:Let's go 35 70

1:10:37Theo:71 71 36 35 What other thoughts on that moves? I understand it

1:10:42Reev:Because Chelsea Obviously their whole new age should be like Bye young Bye young Bye young And then they realise Shit Our average age is like 23 or something in the team last year So they need experience And I think these are two good eggs They are They are They are very good

1:10:56Theo:Really well respected around Jordan Henderson

1:10:58Reev:Obviously he's going to be out for a while with his snapped arm Yeah, but you don't even need him to play.

1:11:03Theo:As a dressing room leader,

1:11:05Reev:that is such a good character. And also, that guy Welbs is actually a really good striker. I did giggle. Do you mean, if you told Danny Welbeck at the start of last season, you're going to get moved to Chelsea earlier this season. He'd be like, really? He probably thought, I'm having a great season, but no one's going to come for me. I'm 35 now.

1:11:23Theo:We all had a conversation of him. England? Well, some of us didn't suggest it, but certainly Theo said, get him on the plane. I think it's a really cool story. like Danny Welbeck. He'll be buzzing.

1:11:31Reev:He's back at the top. Do you know, he's the only footballer to ever play for Manchester United, Arsenal and Chelsea. Wow. In history? Yep. Can you name the other clubs it's played for? Danny Welbeck? Sunderland. Yeah.

1:11:44Theo:Fucking hell. He spent one year somewhere. Brighton. He did a loan somewhere, but he spent one year in the Premier League at a Southern club

1:11:52Reev:before Brighton. Was it West Ham? No. Bournemouth? No. Southampton? They're in the Championship now. Portsmouth? No. Millwall? No. Just north of London. Just Getton T. Watford. Correct. Yeah, well, cool. Interesting to see. I mean, like... Normally, the way you get experienced players in your team is like how people grow up. He's right there.

1:12:10Theo:Anything south of Watford Gap is technically southern.

1:12:13Reev:Yeah. As I got told at university because I was told to pick a side. So never call Watford a southern team again.

1:12:18Theo:No, Watford Gap's above Watford. Oh, is it? On the motorway. It's on the M1. You're trying to say that Watford's in the middle of it. It's a service station. It's north of Brighton.

1:12:26Reev:Yeah, a lot of places. Technically, it's the north for me. Yeah. Yeah, so we're going to be ranking our top 10 over 30s in the world right now.

1:12:35Theo:All right.

1:12:36Reev:What?

1:12:36Theo:Well, I feel like I've got a pretty good answer, but... I'm scared I forgot someone. One of mine can't actually kick ball at the moment. Well, you're allowed injured players. Yeah, okay, fine.

1:12:45Reev:Just not retired players.

1:12:47Theo:No, even retired players can kick ball. Yeah, they can kick a ball. But, yeah. They have to be an active footballer. Yeah, sure. Wait, did he? Active.

1:12:57Reev:Active. All right, Reeve, you kick us off then.

1:12:58Theo:Okay, so in number 10, I have Emi Martinez.

1:13:03Reev:Oh. Goalkeeper is sore walk. No, I've got a goalkeeper in there. Not Martinez.

1:13:09Theo:I've got another keeper. Just wait. Martinez is shit, man. I don't like the ass with the keepers. Is he? He's also a twat. I mean, I did try and take some of the World Cup into account. You put an Argentinian in your team. Number one keeper for Champions League side as well. Yeah. Mate, Aston Villa. Cringe. Nine, I've got Salah. I think he's still not quite... I mean, obviously, people on the panel... I actually disagree. He's not here to talk, but I actually disagree. I actually disagree. I actually don't think he's in the top 10. When I looked at some of the names... Yeah, I don't think he's there.

1:13:38Reev:Are you talking right now?

1:13:39Theo:Yeah, I'm talking right now. He just had a bad season. The whole club had a bad season. No, but he's watched. He's definitely a bad season. I think he is. A lot of that team had a really bad season.

1:13:48Reev:When I look at my list, I think all of these players are better than Salah right now. Yeah.

1:13:51Theo:Okay.

1:13:51Reev:I agree. I think Martinez is better than Salah. It's not even that he's washed. It's not even that he's washed. He's just not better than these. Genuinely, I think Martínez is actually better than Salah.

1:13:58Theo:I don't know about that. Position by position. I think we're taking last season into too much of an age. I am. It's not just... No, because you think we're right now, though, aren't we? No, but you have to remember... Yeah, yeah, and I still think he is. I still think he's top 10. No, this is the thing. When you get to the age, the last season is normally more relevant. It's not like when you're 28 and you've had one bad season. Yeah, but you can't look at the early years because he had different physical attributes at that point. I'm not looking at the earlier years. I'm just saying like that whole club did have a stinker have you seen who he's reportedly close to signing for is it Felibaccio Travis on this ball oh Anana replacing Anana in golf just come to Newcastle for the club 8th I've got a courtois for a second keeper in my list nah I kicked them that's so low man I could keep us out fuck that shit is it he's not even got goalies in I did have courtois but I was like I'm not having a keeper in here 7th Virgil 7th yeah 6th Bernardo Silva 5th Joshua Kimmich fourth we're taking I think too much of the World Cup into account here but I like top three for me I kind of just can't ignore so fourth I've got Messi I think if you were to put him in like a

1:15:03Reev:Messi above Van Dijk

1:15:04Theo:Messi above Van Dijk yeah move you saw what he did I just can't put him you saw what he did to us he was the best performer in the World Cup I don't think he's like top three in the world currently

1:15:15Reev:do you see what I mean he just had a really good tournament

1:15:17Theo:right third Bruno Fernandes second Rodri and first Harry Kane yep well

1:15:21Reev:I have a different list I can go last it's quite off the back of the World Cup is there not an argument to say Messi's the best of a 30 in the world yeah but I don't think Messi would do it in the Premier League now it could be

1:15:33Theo:clip it clip that shit I don't really care man I don't think Messi I think we're giving too much on us on international football a little bit man

1:15:41Reev:nobody did it against England though I'm just asking the question yeah but like he did it against England and also remember he didn't move in those games like he was so he was obviously so intelligent he was so intelligent that's to get the best out of Messi for that specific World Cup can he could he sustain it for a season that's not the question though that's just a better plan

1:16:01Theo:is he robust enough to handle 38 Premier League games in a season that's not the question though the argument against it is though for England if you had to choose Harry Kane or Messi at the World Cup to lead the line who would you choose Messi

1:16:12Reev:to lead the line Harry Kane I think I might choose Messi up front number nine who would I sooner have in an international tournament

1:16:19Theo:yeah Lionel Messi Messi in the tournament I'd like Bellingham over Messi going forward I don't think he's the best player in the world I just think that he had an amazing tournament and that kind of football suits him he might still be the best player in the world he actually might he's obviously still one of the best technically gifted footballers in the world you can't deny that but in terms of actual 38 games Premier League season by the way I know we talked about transfers today as if that ginger prick is signed for Chelsea oh that little fucking rodent yeah he's probably going to

1:16:50Reev:no he's gone to Strasbourg no he's at Chelsea he's gone to Strasbourg he came from Strasbourg Barco's at Chelsea Chelsea signed Barco from Strasbourg I thought he just left Chelsea he's going to be what? I mean Chelsea and Strasbourg are the same club anyway he's going to be the starting left no yeah he's going to he signed for Chelsea yeah he wasn't right and also by the way Tony Bloom I hope someone we know you have dealings with Strasbourg and Chelsea in Blue Co we know you have dealings so don't think you don't because we're on to you don't think you don't don't think you can get away with him

1:17:22Theo:right well you go next because he said his is crazy different

1:17:25Reev:okay it's not in 10 I got Denzel Dumfries no what do you mean no no he's one of the best right back in the world he doesn't get over any of these players I have on my list he's real just starting right back but he hasn't even played a game for them yet but he's going to be he's played at the world cup he can't go he's real Madrid starting right back he hasn't even played yet Dumfries had a good world cup he might not even be the starting right back well you might not the other trend

1:17:52Theo:mental what do you mean it's not mental the thing that maybe trend can have like he hasn't even like Dumfries

1:17:58Reev:is actually like is that like the peak of his powers he's alright he's alright he's a good player

1:18:03Theo:I wouldn't play in top 10 players he's not over any of this but it's alright I would yeah there you go different list I'm in here the problem is you're wrong I'm not wrong and I got Marquinhos can I just put some quick breaking news in Bruno Grimera's fails to turn up to training. Oh, he's coming! Which is why I've got the name of it. Yeah! What's the sauce? Sky Sports. Sky Sports. Oh, yeah. What did he say?

1:18:28Reev:Can you whack that in the other clip? It's just in now. Bruno Gimers failed to arrive at Lemanga to meet up with Newcastle teammates. So he is miserable. Oh, he just got a notification on his phone.

1:18:38Theo:Yeah. You said it wasn't like an Isaac situation. He was due to report in Spain on Sunday night, but he's failed to show up.

1:18:44Reev:I swear to God.

1:18:45Theo:Will he go down from 11 out of 10?

1:18:47Reev:Hey.

1:18:49Theo:It's time for us. There you go. It's him. Oh, mate. You're cooked now. We're actually going to win a double. No, because this is... I'm just seeing if it's a headline. Oh, no. It's fake news. I think it's a headline. He didn't turn up. No, because... He had a cold. He had a cold. They were saying that he didn't turn up on Friday, but he actually got permission just to fly straight to Spain. No, no. They're saying he had food poisoning. It's fine. There's no way he starts doing all that shit. Well, he's accepted the precedent, mate. so people know how to do it now. Yeah. He's still expected to travel and meet up with the group and he's on his way and Newcastle fairly relaxed It's going to be fine staying here, it's fine.

1:19:24What a weird headline. If it just says, oh, Newcastle relaxed and he's on his way.

1:19:31Reev:Unlucky pal. In nine, I got Marquinhos. I'm surprised you didn't have Marquinhos. Yeah, that's a good job. I think he's still one of the best set-offs in the world. Nah, fuck that guy. Literally just won the Champions League. Eight, I got Bernardo Silva. Seven, I got Messi. Oh, it's low. Bernardo Silva's a bit low there I've got him in six yeah but even then is he not in the top five

1:19:50Theo:no well I can't I don't think he's necessarily better than Kimmich yeah Bruno, Rodri or Kane and then Messi was kind of like I've got to include him look at the players I've got

1:19:58Reev:if I can finish the list

1:20:01Theo:in eight I've got Bernardo Silva seven I've got Messi eight is a bit low though I agree

1:20:05Reev:listen to the players

1:20:06Theo:I've got coming up brother eight is guys

1:20:08Reev:eight is so low seven I've got Messi I think I think we've

1:20:12Theo:got Pessy at seven yeah I think we just I think we just

1:20:14Reev:but I'm just looking at these players are all playing fully at their almost at their top I do agree with that but I feel like he's

1:20:20Theo:got to be a bit high

1:20:21Reev:I understand why he'd be higher I do understand and a phenomenal World Cup phenomenal player I just think these guys are like literally at the top of the game any agenda coming into that? there's no agenda I think he's a fantastic player I love Messi you have an agenda against Ronaldo I don't have an agenda against either of them oh you don't have an agenda against Messi so when he had that little thing in the World Cup game you weren't really that was hilarious sinking your teeth into it he did it as well

1:20:43Theo:is he an agenda? No, I just like stirring the pot.

1:20:46Reev:Yeah. In seven, I got Courtois. I think he's one of the best goalies in the world still, period. Better than Messi. In goal. Yes! Five, I got Kimmich. Four, I got Van Dijk. And then three, Bruno. Two, Rodri. One, Kane.

1:21:05Theo:Wow.

1:21:06Reev:I think the top three is unanimous, isn't it, really?

1:21:09Theo:Oh, yeah, yeah. Top three, I agree with. I think I personally would have Kimmich over Van Dijk but it's each their own

1:21:15Reev:I mean there's one place to separate it

1:21:16Theo:yeah no but that's why I said it why is Courtois better than Messi yeah great question Courtois is still one of the question that will be

1:21:23Reev:probably the best goalkeeper in the world right now Messi's the best is he the best player in the world is he I'll take Bruno Fernandes over Messi in the team

1:21:32Theo:David Ryan number one in the world right now guys come on what are we doing

1:21:34Reev:that's true you couldn't even get over Unai Simon exactly

1:21:39Theo:because it would have been too unfair they would have gone you know you know Messi's not the best you know actually that's the reason why De La Fuente didn't start David Raya really because they didn't want to go a full World Cup campaign and conceding zero goals yeah that's actually true I found that out what's that Spain didn't start Raya because they didn't want to go a full World Cup campaign without conceding

1:22:00Reev:oh that makes sense they only had one to concede one yeah I thought that was so fair okay that's my reasoning for Catoat over Messi which totally makes perfect sense by the way and if you think it doesn't then you're fucking I love what you see and it totally makes sense

1:22:15Theo:so if you see it doesn't you're wrong actually this is a great question if they had to swap positions who would be the better of the two

1:22:21Reev:Qatar would be better

1:22:22Theo:in the 10 than Messi

1:22:23Reev:in goal

1:22:23Theo:yeah I agree with that I feel like Messi would be so shit in goal I feel like I actually think he'd flinch I can't reach the goal

1:22:29Reev:I don't even think you'd bother moving I mean he'd just walk up and down and sorry this watch that you made me buy is telling me I have to stand you can do that

1:22:38Theo:wait oh no no I'm happy it's time to stand apparently Yeah because it wants you to do your standing hours Every hour It's fucking stupid Sometimes it tells me it's like oh it's too loud Remove yourself from this environment You've just interrupted the pod Why don't you just turn off the notification What a fucking weird thing to program anyways Time to stand I was having a shit the other day And it messaged me it was like time to stand Did you get pulled down your inner thigh You know you don't have to do what it says Yes you do Before we start What are the chances That Dan Byrne's Going to be in this Oh that would have Been a great one Actually Unfortunately No Newcastle players I couldn't manage it

1:23:17Reev:Alright got him Tenth KDB Clinging on No he's not Clinging on He is He's clinging on Nah Clinging on He's clinging You couldn't even get

1:23:26Theo:In the Belgium team You shouted at me For Salah And then you just Put De Bruyne I know but the Difference is And this is a big The difference is Salah just had a Full season Difference is In the Premier League The difference is Between KDB and Salah is like one made me like really enjoy football and one makes me hate it.

1:23:41Reev:Wait, sorry. Can I ask, do you have Salah in your list? No. So you think Kevin De Bruyne's better than Salah at the moment? That's not true. De Bruyne only played 21 games in all comps last season. Yeah, he's injured. Also, you can see it. He wasn't good for Belgium. He's had injuries. No, he wasn't good. Salah was actually pretty good for Egypt at points. It's because of injuries. He's not better than Salah. Does that not impact your quality? Not necessarily. It's a bit different than playing and being bad than being injured and like not having the opportunity to play. That's why he's 10 though Salah was still

1:24:11Theo:Playing in the Prem Albeit not great

1:24:15Reev:Kevin De Bruyne Came back from injury Yeah his fitness wasn't there though In the start of March He came back from the start of March No his fitness wasn't there though I've got Nabry 9th

1:24:30Theo:Watching much of him have you Yeah By the way Let's have a look at Yolis this you watched all there you trying to say that you watched Paddy McNair mate so I don't know how you dare that's in a different clip which was a fucking lie yeah the three was saying he's Paddy McNair's biggest fan I didn't say that thought he played for Luton I can't believe

1:24:48Reev:McNabry's 31 by the way that's crazy yeah you forgot about him didn't you no he's right here look no he's on your list no he's the three that didn't make the top 10 oh damn I've then got Kimmich in eighth that's well low yeah no but these people ahead like Bernardo Silva seventh what

1:25:03Theo:Kimmich full season in the Bundesliga plus champions. I know, but naturally I've watched more Bernardo Silva and I fucking love Bernardo Silva. He's like one of my favourite players.

1:25:11Reev:You love Bernardo Silva? The little rat. I know, but he's fucking good at foot, isn't he? He does some cool shit. Yeah, Kimmich, that's crazy. Sixth Van Dijk. Fifth Lewandowski. Wow. What the fuck are we doing here? What does he play for? Chicago Fire. Lewandowski.

1:25:31Theo:Just scored, to be fair. You can put him in the pre-em but he's getting 20 goals. No. You think Kimmich is better than Lewandowski right now? I think Lewandowski's fucking... Well, Ronaldo should be in this list then if you're doing it like this. That's not a joke. No, that's not true. Ronaldo is better than Lewandowski. How many goals does Lewandowski get for Arsenal?

1:25:46Reev:He got 19 all-comps losses. How much did he get up front for Arsenal? He got 19 all-comps losses. Eight goals, maybe?

1:25:52Theo:Nine goals? You think he gets nine goals up front for Arsenal? What the fuck are you talking about? All-comps, 20, probably.

1:25:57Reev:That's pretty decent, yeah. I don't... Wait, so he gets nine in the prevalent... I don't mind Lewandowski in the top ten because just because it's time for the MLS doesn't mean you shouldn't put him in like a message. But I wouldn't put him above Van Dijkom or Kimmich. You think Lewandowski's better than Kimmich right now? No, that's not true. What the fuck are we doing here? You think he gets nine goals for starting for Arsenal? That's less than Jokeres. You think Lewandowski would get less goals than Jokeres for Arsenal? That's fucking stupid, that. I think Lewandowski should replace Kevin De Bruyne at 10.

1:26:25Yeah, that's fair. But you've got him in fifth.

1:26:27Theo:Wait, you don't think Lewandowski would get less goals than Jokic for Arsenal? No, because Lewandowski is a fantastic striker. He got 20 for Barcelona last season. Like, what the fuck are you on about?

1:26:40Reev:Yeah, but... 20 for Barcelona is pretty decent. Yeah, but Jokic getting 15 is actually a lot of goals. No, I know it's a lot of goals, but Lewandowski is so intelligent. He has runners in behind in Martinelli and Saka. He's not 50. What the fuck? Jokic would be lucky to even smell his fucking boxes, mate. to even be that close. Like, the difference between Jokeres and Lewandowski is the difference between me and fucking Brad Pitt. Yeah, you've got to remember Lewandowski was still scoring last season for Barcelona. Yeah, thank you for bringing in a great argument. I don't disagree. He shouldn't be in the top 10.

1:27:10Reev:I think 10 is fine, but I think fifth is crazy. Yeah, I agree. But overall, this guy is crazy for thinking Jokeres. No, you think Kimmich is worse than Lewandowski? That might be a bad one, but overall, he's... Who are the two below in between Kimmich and... Van Dijk, Bernardo Silva. Like, Bernardo Silva probably had a better season. Who are you signing at? Both of those. Van Dijk?

1:27:29Theo:Yeah. And Bernardo Silva? Yeah. Okay, well, you're truly lost, mate. Fourth, Lionel Messi. Third, Bruno Fernandes. Second, Rodri. First, Kane. Wow, unanimous. Yeah. Unanimous top three, aye? No love for goalkeepers. Couture's best goal in the world. You have to be in there. Look, I could have done it, but I was just, I didn't want to put goalkeepers in.

1:27:50Reev:What about Xhaka? I thought about it. I thought about Xhaka. I also think with goalkeepers as well, it's like for this kind of argument, it's a bit unfairly balanced because their role is less impacted by age. You know what I mean? Aye. They get better after 30, don't they? Yeah, no. Courtois is the best goalie in the world. Yeah, no, but that's why I just excluded goalkeepers because it's like they kind of have an advantage.

1:28:12Theo:Not too sure that's how it works. Well, it is how it works.

1:28:14Reev:Is there any players that we might have missed?

1:28:18Theo:Dan Byrne. Is there any players, you said you had a list of three.

1:28:22Reev:I had Lewandowski, Nabry and Xhaka. Well, on a little look, a little look. Granit Xhaka? Are you... Are you... He asked me a question. You responded. He did not listen to a single... By the way, I've said Xhaka three times in the last five minutes. Oh, I was doing something else. Sorry. You asked him the question. You asked him the question there. You asked him the question. Who are the three on your list? I went, Nabry, Lewandowski, Xhaka. And then he's like, oh yeah, have you ever thought about Xhaka? I didn't listen. Ask me a question. did not care about what the fuck he was. If he was still at Arsenal, would you have Trossard in there?

1:28:57Reev:I did think about him. I think he had a good World Cup. He had a good season for Arsenal. Top 10. But top 10, I thought was a bit too much. He's never been top 10 of anything.

1:29:05Theo:A lot of these top 10 players are still or just verging away from being world class, aren't they? I don't think Trossard was ever there. I don't think Trossard was ever a world class footballer, was he? But all of these players in the list are genuinely world class. Bro, he's watching. I don't think he would be. That's not... Sorry, yeah, I completely agree. He's not world-class. The day is Trossard as world-class. Yeah, and obviously top 10 from a decade of footballers. Majority, if not all of them, are world-class. Is there anyone in this list that you'd say isn't world-class?

1:29:45Theo:So?

1:29:46Reev:No? I'm asking. I think Dumfries is not world-class yet. Yeah, fair. But he's close. So he plays for Real Madrid but he's not world class do you reckon? Yeah that's I don't think Dumfries is a world class I'm just asking the question You know you had a tone in your voice No answer the question and then he'll not listen Yeah He plays for Real Madrid Endless cycle Yeah

1:30:11Theo:But everyone came number one Yeah Do you think he wins the Ballon d 'Or? Just off a statistical I don't know how the Ballon d 'Or works He's what 70 71 72 goals for the season Who else are you going to give it to? Jamal Rodri Jamal Rodri he's a favourite I don't think he's going to get it now he is favourite

1:30:29Reev:that'd be pretty beast mate I'd be happy for him if he got it I think he deserves it I agree would have been happy if he won us the World Cup he should

1:30:38Theo:at some point I think he's been the best footballer in the world for what two years the trophy does the trophy thing stop counting if he wins like a Ballon d 'Or do you know what I mean do people stop making fun of him I think if Harry Kane wins the Ballon d 'Or they won't take the piss of how bad his career was at Spurs in terms of trophies, yeah. Just in general though, is that difference individual? Is that still not... 100%. If he wins a Ballon d 'Or, people will remember his career way more fondly. Yeah. Obviously, but there still is the elephant in the room. Yeah, but there's a huge period where people are like, oh my God.

1:31:10Theo:But is he not the person who won the Ballon d 'Or without winning any trophies? He won the Bundesliga. Yeah, but he fucking hasn't at this point. Quite a lot. Ryan Giggs never won the Bundesliga. He did the Kevin Keegan strap. Yeah. Didn't he? Yeah. Who's the last English player

1:31:23Reev:to win the Ballon d 'Or?

1:31:26Theo:Well, everyone knows that. Michael Horton? Yeah. Do you think we'll ever see Kane back in the Premier League? No. It'd be interesting. I think it's gone now.

1:31:35Reev:Do you? What? Mid-playable club, end of his career. I think he's destined for America. I think, yeah. Become a kicker as well. NFL kicker. I think, or maybe just go to Italy and start, just start pardoning Germany. Beckham will get into Miami at one point, I reckon. He'll go to Miami. True. True. Sir David with Sir Harry.

1:31:51Theo:They're friends, aren't they? They're the close friends. They're the good ones. But hey, let us know what you think of your top 10 lists, of our top 10 lists. Aye. All right, anyway, moving on. We have ranking every Premier League manager this season as a tier list, guys. So going into the season, how good we think these managers are. Also, am I right in saying that obviously, not including Carrick and whoever was at the back end of last year, there's like seven, eight new managerial appointments going into this year, right? Yeah. A lot. isn't it like isn't only three of the top 12 yeah but including all the including the new managers that have come up that's what I'm saying

1:32:29Reev:it's a big change of guard yeah literally half of the a lot of ugly managers this year well that's rich coming from you isn't it yeah I know but like I've seen Glazer's pick on this who's the ugliest Lewis that's horrible why would you do that that's a horrible question who's the best looking Alonso Jabir Alonso Arbelo a new friend of the show Carrick Arbelo a new friend of the show Carrick I'd shout Carrick Yeah, he's pretty good looking. And obviously, boys, we are going to be ranking these lot on how good of a manager we think they are.

1:32:58Theo:Yeah. Not how good we think they're going to do. No, we have D tier, C tier, B tier, A tier, S tier.

1:33:06Reev:Yes. That's quite a lot of tiers.

1:33:10Theo:Just like Lewis. Eddie Howe, Grimogy. Turn up to fucking training, man. Let's kick things off with Dezerbi. Wait, where is Eddie Howe on this list?

1:33:22Reev:Is he... Oh, he's not there.

1:33:28Theo:Deserby. We're going backwards?

1:33:29Reev:Yeah.

1:33:30Theo:Oh, okay. Fine. I actually quite... Can't really say that. I don't mind him. What were you going to say? I said I actually quite like him as a manager. I think he's pretty good. You like a Tottenham Hotspur manager? I liked his footballer. I'm always taught because he was defending Greenwood and I feel like he's sort of... That's got nothing to do with our... It does come into my personal opinion. No, but I mean, based on what I know of him, my experience of watching him as a manager extends to Brighton in the Premier League. And I thought under De Zerbe, they were actually pretty good.

1:34:00Reev:Didn't he have a big fallout with the board at Marseille? He's fallen out with pretty much everyone. Yeah, I don't think he's a good egg. I think he's a good manager. Is he what Spurs need right now? I think he's a good manager. I think he goes B. I think B too. I think this season though, it could be very much a case where at the end of the season, we move him to A. I think he can have a really good season with Tottenham this year

1:34:21Theo:at the end of last season he kind of got Spurs together at least to keep them in the Premier League what would define a successful season for him this season Champions League yeah no European football going from 17th to European football I think like although they finished 17th twice in a row there's a lot of money spent I think Champions League no that's not just that's an amazing season

1:34:39Reev:they spent about 250 million pounds yeah but that would be an exceptional season every other team spent all that as well no exceptional season would be like an FA Cup what Theo I think Tottenham Tottenham Hotspur their board will be like you need to get us back in the Champions League so they finish in the Champions League you think that's just good that's their expectation that's a phenomenal season

1:34:55Theo:are we forgetting who Tottenham Hotspur are are you forgetting the competition and all the other teams that are also winning Champions League

1:35:00Reev:you used to have a go I said they're 17 they're shit they're shit but you're like they want a trophy Theo you're saying it's only good if Tottenham go from 17 back to back to Champions League I think it's European football

1:35:09Theo:it's European football obviously it's European football think about how many clubs in the Prem that are like top five Theo like you do realise other teams are trying to get Champions League as well United won top four minimum Arsenal are going to get it but that doesn't mean Man City are going to get it their expectation is

1:35:26Reev:Champions League of course it is they need to get the team back into the Champions League

1:35:29Theo:to keep attracting the top players I think it's European football this season Theo you're acting like there's not other teams that are also spending money and also have the same ambition

1:35:38Reev:they are but there's also an expectation they should be competing with Aston Villa yes and they will they will and Aston Villa compete for the Champions League You said if they get Champions League, it's just a good season. That is a fantastic season. I'm saying that's what their expectations should be, the Champions League. No, they're going to go for it, but European football is where they're going to be.

1:35:56Theo:Their expectations shouldn't be Champions League. If they expect to be in the Champions League, that's just bad expectations. They have so much to work on, mate. Their ambition should be to get in there. I don't think they should expect to be in there. You have established teams who have been fighting around here for years. Aston Villa now, who were established in this thing. For Tottenham to be like, we expect to be Champions League because we spent 250 million. I think you've just used the wrong word a little bit I think they want to get back to that position I don't think they expect to be no they won't expect to be there that's 20 plus points to make

1:36:28Reev:they'll take European football absolutely but they should be pushing for Champions League football absolutely yeah no but you're slowly changing the word that's not what I meant from the start

1:36:35Theo:expectations are different though aren't they like to expect Champions League football is ridiculous for that set point you can't no one can expect there might not even be five places by the way if England English teams don't have a good run in this year's competition in before so you think they're going to you think they expect to be within the top four of the Premier League the team isn't even like 13 the team still isn't even better than like Villas I think their team on paper

1:37:00Reev:is better than Villas no but like they have so much they have to like actually work on Villas have been building like this philosophy for years and years when you think about

1:37:07Theo:you've got Liverpool Lear Ayola Arsenal Arteta Xabi Alonso Chelsea Maresca Man City

1:37:13Reev:Newcastle well let's not do it

1:37:16Theo:Yeah, but...

1:37:16Reev:And then Man United

1:37:18Theo:and Le Caric or whoever, that's like five teams that are pretty strong enough

1:37:21Reev:to hold them on.

1:37:21Theo:This is meant to be

1:37:22Reev:Tottenham Hotspur were meant to be the ones breaking into the top four years ago. Do you know what I mean? This is Tottenham Hotspur we're talking about. They should be pushing. I agree. And look, they could pull out a worldly season and do it, but their expectation this year is like, they're going into it it's like,

1:37:34Theo:we need to get European football. I reckon it's 8th or above. I reckon they're going into it being like, guys, let's just at least for this season alone just get back into that conversation. I think 8th would be a disappointment is what I will say 7th or above 6th alright alright anyway Reggie Libre A he's not an A manager why not he's had a good season he's not an A manager there was talk of them actually getting rid of him to try and get a better manager was there was actual talk looks like he's a better manager than deserved he's had a great season but like he's better than deserved I mean that is that is a pretty remarkable accomplishment it is but like no this is the problem right so you can't how reactive do you want to be?

1:38:13Like one good season and it doesn't... Well, Arteta's going to be changed,

1:38:16Theo:isn't it? Yeah, but like... He's built it. He's built it. Like, the Brees done a great job. He's gotten from Chelsea to the Prem and obviously had an unbelievable season, but he doesn't then suddenly become an A-tier manager. That is too small of a sample size. No, it doesn't. It is. That's his only experience. We're basing it off.

1:38:34Reev:What has he done at Sunderland? And obviously at Lorient. No, no, no, no. Yeah, but...

1:38:39Theo:Do you think if they had another... manager, they would be in that position. So is that not credit to that manager? He's done more than deserved. There was genuine talk at the end of last season of getting rid of him now that the, and because they're in such a good position and getting a proper manager. Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. Like, he has, he's going to have a ceiling with them of like how far he could take them. An A-tier manager wouldn't have a ceiling. Now, I might be wrong, but like, he's not an A-tier manager. He's just a B-tier manager who's done an outstanding job, which is possible.

1:39:07I think it's an A-tier manager. No, just because you're doing an outstanding job doesn't mean, like, fucking when Almiron was playing Unreal doesn't mean he's an A-tier player. He's a C-tier player playing at an A-tier level.

1:39:16Theo:I'm willing to listen to that because that's actually not... It is. That's a pretty logical point so we'll put him in the top end. Otherwise, basically what you do is you go through the Premier League table and all the managers at the top are A. That's not how it works. Not necessarily. Well, it is. But the ability to overachieve does make him a good manager. Also, not only that,

1:39:32Reev:you look at some of the results they actually won and beat in some of the bigger teams. That shows tactical awareness as well. Feel, feel. Teams do that when they get promoted because you don't know what you get. They did it regularly. They did it regularly. They did it regularly. They did the double over Chelsea. Leeds came up and they were starting getting big results. And you. They did the double over Newcastle. Eddie Howard, Bournemouth used to get big results. This season, they will get found out in the Premier League. It'll be a lot tougher. I don't think they go down, but it'll be so much more tougher.

1:39:56They've got Europe as well, though. Sunderland agenda.

1:39:59Reev:He got Sunderland to fucking Europe.

1:40:01Theo:Theo, he's not an A-tier manager. He's not. Just to try and argue Lewis's point a little bit more. Do you think any clubs that are like within the upper echelons of the Premier League would be looking at Reggie Libri and going we've got to get him in. Bending him this season

1:40:16Reev:absolutely.

1:40:17Theo:No but what I mean is like right now you Lewis is kind of right you wouldn't put him in the top ends of Manifu.

1:40:24Reev:I do agree with that. Yeah. I think he's I think he's up a B

1:40:29Theo:because A A plus is kind of reserved.

1:40:32Reev:Some people have it.

1:40:33Theo:Some people do have it. I think Reggie has it.

1:40:35Reev:He got a bit of it. Definitely not yeah. He got a bit of Libri. Glasner. So what do you say about Glasner now then? Again, I'm not eager to give out A's so easily. He's won Europa. Yeah, he's won. And the FA Cup. Yeah.

1:40:52Theo:With what he's done with Palace. No, he won it with Frankfurt, didn't he? What I'm trying to do, I'm trying to... He's won Conference League as well. Oh, and Conference League, yeah. Yeah, I think he's done enough. I'm just trying to preempt where other people are going to go. He wins. Yeah, I think A's fair then. What do you think? There is a reason why Forrest have absolutely spunked up the wall so much money to try and get him in the club. Yeah. That's obviously indicative. Isn't he like the second highest paid

1:41:15Reev:manager in the league now? I think so.

1:41:17Theo:And they will suck him in six months. Here then? Yeah, lower A. He has to be. Even though he can't really put that.

1:41:23Reev:He won Crystal Palace the first ever trophy. Yeah, no one's...

1:41:26Theo:Oh no, second ever they won a game of sport. Next up, Eddie Howe.

1:41:31Reev:It's not Eddie Howe, is it? It's Jasso. Oh yeah. I actually have a... I have a good feeling about it. You comment on this one

1:41:39Theo:because I don't know where Jace Holland should be. So, he started, boy, he got injured, all right? He got, he's a product of, he's a product, he's a product of Ragnik, he's a product of, yeah, and over at RB, what's the one called in Austria? Salzburg. Salzburg, yeah, he started at the youth, then he got given the job as, as thingy went to Leipzig, thingy went to Leipzig, what's his name, the American guy? Jesse March. Jesse March went there, so then he got the job, he went and did the double, with them. You kind of leave out the details. He did a double in Austria. They haven't done the double since.

1:42:16Interesting. He's got trophies there. Then he went, surprisingly, went all the way to Al-Hall Hill.

1:42:21Reev:Al-Ali. Al-Ali. I'm alright. Won their version of the Champions League over there and then got to the final second year. Always went back to back. I think he's fucking A2. He's not. He's obviously like C tier, isn't he?

1:42:35Theo:I think we don't shoot early and just put him in a tier that's kind of respectable so C tier yeah I think C's fine I think he'll have a good season but there's no way we can ever know he's very young he's either going to what I will say is he has been well thought of and do you know who use one of your biggest fan pages what's his name Lee Gunner or something yep he wanted him to replace Arteta at one point that says a lot yeah that's a lot man when that conversation comes we'll have a look at your manager as well as all of your best players he looks happy though Michael Carrick C

1:43:09Reev:No B I would say B He stabled a very Very rocky ship He did a lot of Burrow As well to begin with He did Lewis I know he had No competitions But that Man United job Is not easy To stable the ship And he went in there It's short sample size Is he a B tier manager He did a good job at Burrow We haven't seen enough From him yet He got sacked from Burrow In the end That's the hardest job In world football And he's done a good job Do you not think by For six months or Six months and all he had to do was actually play people in the correct position. I don't think he's B-T.

1:43:42Theo:Do you not think that in order to become a Man United manager at some point, you have to be at least a B-Tier manager? I think we've seen from their history, no, they give Solskjaer the job. They give Solskjaer the job, mate. What was his background? He didn't go into their B-Tier. It's a little different now. No, no, no, no. Man United, he went into Man United not being a B-Tier manager at all. Man United just started to take a gamble if a player has been around the club in the past. Who, Carrick? Carrick, yeah. Carrick is a kind of managerial experience before. Yeah, no, and so did Solskjaer.

1:44:13But what I'm saying is you get the job, not necessarily just off your managerial experience, but because you know the club inside and out. That's how Man United are. That's why Solskjaer got it.

1:44:21Reev:You're taking away the job that you actually did at Man United. And as I said, it's the hardest job in world football to actually go in there and stable it. And he did, what he got asked to do, he did. Theo, but it's six months. It doesn't make him, it doesn't, like you need to see more. I think it's very similar to Yasil, or how you pronounce it, our guy, where it's like he's a young manager. No, but you've seen evidence of this one, though. Yeah, no, but there's evidence of this guy. He's got trophies in his backcourt. Not in the Premier League. Yeah, no, but he's still trophies around the world.

1:44:47So, but you can see he isn't a bad area to be. He's a young manager who can grow and become way better, but I don't put him on the same level as... Reggie Libri. I actually think he's... I think I don't even like Libri and B, if I'm honest. I think he just had a... I just think he'd agree. It's not even that. I just don't, whatever. But a Deserby, I think a Deserby would outsmart Carrick every day of the week. I think he would. I really do. I think Carrick's going to struggle this year. There were times where Carrick just couldn't, the performance against Leeds and things like that. The performance against Storrs was absolutely pathetic.

1:45:21And we were a terrible team. So you think he's better?

1:45:23Reev:He's the same with Jassel he knows nothing about? I know everything I can about. You know nothing about him. I actually know an okay amount about him. you didn't even know the team he managed in Saudi I've literally just quoted his whole history no Karik he's going to get done in this season I think I don't think he's like but can you only base it off what he's done recently though that's what we're saying yeah yeah it's I mean there is evidence to argue I mean in terms of if I'm malvoted I'm malvoted but I don't think he's a beat I don't think I think Deserby would fucking bend him over we bent him over and we were terrible we had no and we he does get

1:46:02Theo:like outsmarted he does get outsmarted a little bit yeah but Eddie has a better manager than Reggie Labrie right yeah he got bent over twice by him no that was the players no but that's what I'm saying like managers can just have the better no that is that is true I'm just saying my opinion I think Carrick fits in the same bracket of a younger manager who still has a lot of possible growth but he's not quite a B yet in my opinion but if you think B he goes B but do you not think him being appointed is evidence that no because I think he's good No, it's the same with Solskjaer. They were supposed to scrap him and they didn't because of what he did.

1:46:35I know, but you're saying, well, the fact that he's a Man United job must be that he's me, but Solskjaer got it.

1:46:39Theo:The fact that he got given it at this point in such a crisis. What? That's what you said earlier. Who? You said earlier, the fact that you got the Man United job. Yeah, I've changed that point. I'm asking. Because my Solskjaer point was good. Yeah, that was. Well, I mean, when Oli was running good, everyone would have said he was a B manager. He wasn't a B coming in to the job at Man United. No, but based on his, but if you asked after his first like term or whatever at Manchester United we would have said the only reason the only reason it went bad is because they got worse the thing is like Carrigan proved it definitely but the performances weren't actually great the results were decent like there was some bad performances in there and there were some there were some there were some like blatantly obvious fixes there was always going to be a bounce back because it was so fucking bad under Ambram and there was such clear things to fix like I think most managers would have been able to turn that around a little bit.

1:47:32I think it's easier said than done. Well, obviously, but like...

1:47:34Theo:Turn it around a bit, but not to the degree that he's done it. No, if you think B, he goes B. I think he's lower B. I think he's C, but... Maresca. Time will tell. Bit of a tricky one here. Yeah, I mean, I'm tempted to give an upper B. I mean, he won the Club World Cup, but like... Won the Club World Cup. He did pretty well at Leicester until like everyone realized that he doesn't really have a plan B. I just see A as like a really, just a big, good level. It's not even like he's not a good manager, but it's like that's his... I think B's for some premium managers. I think at City, he would do okay because the resources he has are very good.

1:48:14Theo:Yeah. Like he's got very good players, in which case doing your plan A kind of will work out. Is that a concern for City then that they're replacing arguably the greatest manager of all time with a B tier manager? 100%. That's what I think. It grew up to be better.

1:48:28Reev:We're saying he's B tier.

1:48:30Theo:Yeah, they obviously think he's better than me Yeah, they probably That's the point We've done a made up tier list

1:48:35Reev:Someone's about to get the job And call him in the boardroom He's like, guys, we've just seen this new Pitchside Imagine a new Pitchside video

1:48:42Theo:Moresca's in B I think the new Newcastle manager is a C tier manager Why are we going to hire him? He's C Yeah, he's B Moresca Yeah, I think he's top of B though

1:48:52Reev:He's a bit hot-headed though, isn't he? Yeah

1:48:54Theo:This is an easy one I think Irola's easy, that's it I think Irola's an A manager Yeah.

1:49:00Reev:Room for S or not? No. What? A bit early. I'm asking the question. We've had this argument

1:49:05Theo:of who's better out of Glasner and Arreola. So if you're going to give one S-T, you have to give the other one. To get to S-T, well, we'll get there eventually, but to get to S-T, what does Arreola need to do? Just be a different level of power. There might not even be any left, you know. Yeah. Based on who... Based on who's disappeared from the league,

1:49:23Reev:it's really hard for us to give an S-T out. No, it's not.

1:49:26Theo:Well, there's probably only one, maybe two on the rest. You don't have to. Yeah, you don't have to use the category. Anyways, we'll come to that. We'll come to that. Errol is here, yeah. I think for Errol to go up

1:49:37Reev:into S, he just needs to have... At a big club. Win some trophies? What? No, do it at a big club. Yeah, he needs to put a solid season in with Liverpool. Like Champions League...

1:49:48Theo:I think to be an S-team manager, you have to win trophies.

1:49:50Reev:And win at a cup run or like a... That's a win. Yeah. But you also have to do it

1:49:55Theo:at a bigger club, I think. because that's the one that comes under the most scrutiny, the hard pressure. We didn't put Arteta in S for ages. I mean, Tom Battle of Ritchie until you won something. It's the same goals for Areola. He has to win. No, I agree. I totally agree. Especially with Liverpool. It's like fucking hell. Even if... I mean, even if Bournemouth won a trophy or whatnot, I don't think you give him S at that point. No. Because you have to do... It's a different level. You're looking at Guardiola level. This is... Guardiola is an S. So if you're going to put that name next to him, you have to be...

1:50:25That's why I'm protective over the A with Reggie Labrie. It's the level below Guardiola. Is that why Glasner's in A? Because he only did it at Palace.

1:50:32Theo:Yeah. A hundred percent. Doing it at a bigger club for a manager is so much harder than doing it at a club that nobody expects. Because Glasner's won a trophy, Areola hasn't. Does that mean Glasner's above Areola? I'd take...

1:50:45Reev:But I don't think it's all about that. You just have to look at them as individuals and how they set up games and whatnot. And I just think Areola has that spark.

1:50:52Theo:Also, just to back Lewis's point of would a big club get anyone less than an A manager there's a reason Liverpool have appointed him because they obviously think he is an A manager yeah I don't mind which way he goes I don't have a preference I just think he's in it yeah put him in A yeah go on we need to decide above or below below I would put below I'd go

1:51:12Reev:I'd edge below for trophies yeah I'd edge I think winning the trophy with Palace first in the history that's phenomenal like so

1:51:19Theo:Farkar C for the run as well that they did it Farkar C we've got four of the top six managers done already and none of them are an S

1:51:27Reev:yeah it's fine that's how it is man a lot of them are new managers yeah Daniel Farker he's got to start using these C tiers I think we're already I feel like we're disrespecting the C tier not everyone can go and B we have to separate the levels yeah Farker's not on he's not on the level of like a Maresco that's what I mean it's not that he's a bad manager and he's done a good job

1:51:46Theo:no no I don't but then again I don't think he's necessarily worse than Michael Carrick that's why I said Carrick's in C like you need to actually use the tiers. You're just putting everyone in B. Carrick should be down. Yeah, okay. Drop Carrick down. He really, really should. I think that's right. It's kind of contradictory to what I said. There you go. No, no, no. What the fuck? What are you? Yeah, so now we're actually using the tiers. I don't think Carrick's necessarily that much better of a manager than Dan.

1:52:10Reev:Because all we were doing before was just

1:52:11Theo:organizing them in the B.

1:52:13Reev:Yeah, he did a great job at Leeds last season. After everyone said he was going to get sacked first. He's close as well. Do we even need to talk about this one? It's so interesting. like Farkle will never ever get a Man Utd job no

1:52:25Theo:no he won't no so I'm not

1:52:29Reev:saying something

1:52:29Theo:yeah because he's

1:52:30Reev:but Carrick will yeah because

1:52:32Theo:that's what yeah and that's why it's difficult to say but I don't think

1:52:37Reev:like it's all where you can have a good season but prior to last season I think if he swapped roles of

1:52:42Theo:the manager I think both would do an equally that's what I mean Carrick got the job off his great back management he has now based on how well they did but originally But even still, it's quite a short amount. A lot of us were saying, go get a different manager. You know what I mean? Gary O 'Neal. D. Not that bad. I had that very much manager. Well, Will's entitled to talk at this point as well. You've got first-hand experience of him. I think he was quite hard done by at Wolves. He had no backing. I think he was destined to fail. But I don't think he's brilliant. We've got to use the team.

1:53:15Reev:He was all right in Bournemouth, though. Is he one of the worst? Parker is better than Gary. Is he one of the worst managers in the league? Yeah, he is. So he's in D. You know what I mean? It's not, we're saying, not saying he's a bad manager, but in the terms... Oh, Jamie. Stupid man. Oh, he's ruined everything. Guys, Jamie Lee. No, still more. More, more, more. That's it. There you go. Too far, too far. No, that's fine, that's fine. Why are you still moving it? Let go of the camera. Jamie Lee, with his fat ass. No, the question... Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm fine with that then. The question is, Is he one of the worst managers in the league?

1:53:50He is. So he's in D. Yeah, Gary Neal goes in D.

1:53:55Theo:Go on then. Do you think he survives the season?

1:53:58Reev:Well, you need to put Gary Neal in D first.

1:54:02Theo:That is... Do you think he survives the season, Gary Neal? Go on, who's this next manager? Well, you know the club. Yeah. Go on, I want to tell you who you think it is. That's Vladimir. It's not bad. Lewis? It's Victor. Victor Mutchink. It's Jakarovic. Vladimir Hull's manager Yeah Yeah Vladimir I don't know enough I can't Sergi Yeah I mean He got He got Like He has to go Like D Didn't he Just automatically I was going to say Like he got Hull promoted But like Hull were pretty shit In the championship They were quite fortunate Do you not think Do you not think It counts a little bit That they feel confident Enough to keep him Bearing in mind They're having an overhaul Of the entire club They got him promoted Didn't he but that's what I mean like is he not has he not got a bit about him I feel like it's just like because to me the whole ambition seemed like they actually want to it's just hard to it's hard to see which would imply that they'd get a better manager if they're going to keep him he's not better than if you rewind about 12 months ago a lot of people had Hull going down yeah that happens in the championship though it is easy to not easy but like it does happen where it does happen where like a team that is ripe can just go and rise all the way up it was like Luton did it and like and they got promoted but like they finished sixth in the playoffs didn't they so it's like they were like by the way they did that on the final day and then went on to win the entire team that's great but like it's different level we can't until we see him in the Premier League we can't put him higher than D good fact about him he played for 23 clubs during his career journeyman did he really it's fucking weird

1:55:36Reev:yeah get him in D he hasn't even managed there or there above or below Gary Neal's got more yeah Gary Neal's got a bit more Abelola Abelola I don't know about this guy. Didn't do a great job at Real Madrid but also he was a little bit like yeah. He was shit though wasn't he? Was it his fault? I think it's a C. C? I don't know.

1:56:00Theo:I think he'll do okay at Fulham. I don't necessarily think they'll go down but I don't think they'll be. I think Fulham might go down? I said I don't think they'll necessarily go down but I think they'll be floating around it. Interesting. Do you think he'll be Fulham manager at the end of the season? I don't know if he will.

1:56:15Reev:I think he will. you do maybe they should make a signing or two I think they finished like 15th or something I don't I don't have a good feeling that's what I mean

1:56:24Theo:15-16 yeah that kind of close to it or maybe they're going to do it no C's fair enough but at the bottom of it I do think it's kind of a bit of a step down from Marcus Silva what from 100 % step down yeah big step down

1:56:42Reev:are you going to say a step down far below or go from no no as in like as in Marcus Silva Marcus Silva is just he was a great manager you're putting him at the bottom of C I think so yeah yeah David Moyes I want to put him in A oh what I kind of I would have in a different time I don't even mind it they should have probably

1:56:59Theo:got Europe to be fair but it's right it's right now though I think there was definitely a time he was in A he's doing a good job right now as a manager they wanted him out last year at one point they should have got European football based on the position I think he's I think he's a B manager I think he's a really solid manager they let Spurs beat him I just don't think he's I think David Moyes he does it he wasn't even that bad at Man United actually do you know what he might have to go D because he kept Spurs in the league it's atrocious final day of the season do you not think you're caught in a lot of things from the past though it's like now in the modern game David Moyes that's what I mean I'll put him like top of B yeah top of B I don't think he's I don't think he's a better manager he's got enough credit to be banked in A if we did it it was like an all-timer thing I think he should go but I think currently one day he was he was in A at a point but like the end of the season without a win in the last seven.

1:57:46Reev:Yeah, but it was done. And kept Spurs in the league.

1:57:51Theo:Kept Spurs in the league. Final day of the season. We know you said. Upper B.

1:57:56Reev:At the top? At the top of B.

1:57:58Theo:Yeah, I think he's better than Maresca. Go on, Luke. Go on. Well, you know his name. We spoke about him earlier. Yeah, go on through. We'll literally read it out like three times. Yeah, go on through.

1:58:07Reev:Inge Marson. Right.

1:58:10Theo:Saga. Yeah, Saga.

1:58:12Reev:Yeah, like Sarkay. Like a money Saga.

1:58:16Theo:I don't know enough about him. Don't know anything. I actually don't. I'm sorry, guys. Until we... I mean, it'd be great to ask Oli Thomas on this one. Good smile, though. Well, look, they got him from Lund last year, who finished second in post-PSG. And they... He's got the Champions League. So, he's got credentials.

1:58:30Reev:I mean, I'll put Len's top 20 world football team, so maybe he's fucking A. I mean, he's done it in the French League. Yep. Pretty good. As we want to win Al-A-Farmer so that's one of the best losing of them.

1:58:42Theo:C. Yeah, I was going to say do you think Palace would appoint a manager that would be a D manager? No. He'll be his.

1:58:47Reev:I think C's fair. Until we learn more about him. He's won a trophy. He's won.

1:58:51Theo:I think he could be better than Arbeloa, you know. He's better than Arbeloa.

1:58:55Reev:More experienced than Arbeloa and has won a trophy.

1:58:57Theo:I think less than Farker though. Actually, can I say something right now? I think Arbeloa's fucking D.

1:59:02Reev:By the way, sorry, he's better than I think he's got a bit of I think Arbeloa benefits from his name. is more impressive than winning the Fugger. Move Farker at one. Saudi Champions League, mate. Jassel was the first time in the club's history.

1:59:16Theo:and then put Saga in the middle. You're getting defensive now, the Newcastle manager. With Jassel, he was the first manager. Well, we're having a debate. You can't just roll the eyes. No, but you've only just come to know him is what I mean. He doesn't even know. Neither you's even know who this French guy is. He's just quoted a French trophy. So that's the same thing. You're being a hypocrite. No, no, no. I actually know about this manager. What he did at length. You don't even know about that manager. I actually know about this manager. This manager, he was the first person to ever get... What's that team?

1:59:44Theo:RB, what they call in Austria. Salzburg. First time, he got them into knockout rounds of the Champions League. First time in club history.

1:59:50Reev:Yeah, Lons just won a... They finished second in the French League and won a trophy. I'm all right. That's so impressive to do with Lons. I'm happy when he's moving down. The bit that irritates me is like the... I actually know about this manager. You've just learned his name and found out he won a French trophy. He's like, well, he's better than him. We know about Lons He doesn't know either of them I don't need to know his name But I know what job he did at Lons That's so impressive Far more impressive than Al Harley What did he do in Al Harley? He didn't win anything Apart from the Champions League Like four years ago Three years ago He won the league And he's He went in and won the league Won the Champions League Over there and got to the final But what's more impressive By the way Instantly wrong Instantly wrong Didn't know anything Just guess Doing it in France or Saudi No you literally just went He went to Saudi he didn't win anything completely wrong he won three trophies you get so angry no I get so angry when you talk about football when you talk about football but you don't actually you're wrong what's more impressive doing it in the French League or the Southern League yeah that's a good question the French League yeah but it's about opportunity he's also done it in Austria though he got them into the Champions League knockouts for the first time yeah okay yeah but okay French League okay but in the Champions League he got them to knockout rounds first time in club's history that's European football he just got London to the Champions League

2:01:04Theo:yeah yeah and won them the domestic cup, right? The first time in the club's history for an Austrian team to make it to a Champions League knockout. Yeah. First time in club's history to make it to a Champions League knockout. They also won League of Legends. That is huge. No, I think he's great, but he's above our below. I'm fine when going down. The only thing I do to this is when you... I actually think Jaxos should be a knee. You don't actually know anything about them and then you form an opinion.

2:01:26Reev:No, you're just getting far too defensive against Newcastle. If he was the whole city manager, you wouldn't be having this argument. Well, I wouldn't know all this stuff about him, but I do. but it's like when you pretend you know but you don't know I know what Lons did last season no no no you just tried to pretend you knew he knew what the club did he didn't know he managed the club no no he tried to pretend he knew about he tried to pretend he knew about Yassir Yassir not everyone stalks the manager

2:01:48Theo:I mean we're tit for tat in the C tier anyway guys look it doesn't matter these are the biggest these are the places where it really matters

2:01:54Reev:all that matters is that Lons ex-manager should be above this Al Ali we'll see who finishes on

2:01:59Theo:Frank what?

2:02:03Reev:I actually think Frank is I think he might be D2 by the way can I see he did a good job at Chelsea during the transfer ban great job at Covertry did alright

2:02:15Theo:at Derby as well

2:02:16Reev:by the way he's done well

2:02:17Theo:at Cov

2:02:17Reev:he does alright everywhere he goes with the Van Gogh didn't do a great job at Everton but that

2:02:21Theo:has to do it

2:02:22Reev:in the Prem he did it in the Prem with Chelsea with a transfer ban Everton

2:02:27Theo:it's a bit different

2:02:28Reev:scrap a goal he has Marder show in the Prem before he gets in B. Corner goal

2:02:32Theo:and a fucking shit goal.

2:02:33Reev:He's proven more than Carrick. Yeah. I'm saying he goes in C. No, or top of C if you want. Yeah, I think top of C. He's not a B manager. He hasn't like... C for Chelsea. C for crap. Xabi Alonso. That's an A. It's A, isn't it? Yeah. He literally went a whole season undefeated. I think he's better

2:02:55Theo:than both guys in the round. I'm a roller. Top of A? you happy with that yeah definitely A for Alonso I'm fucking buzzing about that actually

2:03:05Reev:oh Skinhead Hurston hey where is he friend of the show he does a little like that now does he or does he is it growing back Skinhead he's probably growing back

2:03:12Theo:the back of his head looks amazing B Glenn Famiro Hurston yeah I mean yeah I don't mind it can I just quickly move back to Alonso unbeaten season at Levecuse there's Xhaka there isn't it so I mean come on is that not enough for an S Dawn has to suggest S he's not on Guardiola level yet yeah but he won the Bundesliga but let's still calm down

2:03:33Reev:a little bit he did he did he swaggled a little bit in Midway he did yeah like I mean if you're going to be

2:03:39Theo:an S-tier manager you kind of have to do it in the league if he does it at Chelsea he's going to be an S-tier isn't he

2:03:44Reev:if Chelsea go

2:03:44Theo:turn up and win win the Premier League no

2:03:47Reev:win like

2:03:48Theo:a trophy or two this season you could argue that yeah you definitely could argue it to come into a place that has had so many managers recently through crisis

2:03:58Reev:but it's not happened yet so he can't

2:03:59Theo:no you can't but he's S for attractiveness yeah

2:04:04Reev:Skinhead Herzler

2:04:05Theo:Skinhead Herzler

2:04:07Reev:we're Skinhead and then the one with hair as well I think he's better than Lebris if I was to why

2:04:11Theo:he's definitely better than Lebris why let me ask you this why well how many years is it since Brighton were in European football like a hundred years how many years was it since Sunderland were in European football Desiree got them European football yeah fuck I just think he's a better manager he's done it for longer as well in the league and I think just I think the football the Brighton play is just a little bit better than the football Sunderland play I feel like

2:04:38Reev:what's more impressive what Reggie B did at Sunderland or Hurtsville at Brighton definitely what a one off a one off impressive but a one off impressive thing

2:04:48Theo:sample size as to quote Lewis is a lot longer a one off impressive thing doesn't mean that you are better all around I could score a fucking overhead kick from halfway line but it doesn't mean I'm a better striker than Leon Bess I think if the top six clubs were sniffing around for another manager Herzler would be in a conversation for that definitely more so than Reggie Labrie would be do you see what I mean yeah just posing back to back eighth place finishes yeah very good I remember watching

2:05:11Reev:Brighton in League One early in the season last season there was talks that he might not

2:05:16Theo:yeah from me actually I said he was well I said the club wouldn't do very well but I'm willing to you know sorry guys

2:05:23Reev:oh my god he's learning

2:05:26Theo:conditioning where do you want him

2:05:28Reev:put him in B

2:05:29Theo:he's better than Deserby

2:05:31Reev:top he's better than Maresca below Maresca below Maresca

2:05:37Theo:because Maresca won the World Cup Kate Andrews where would you put him I mean he was in conversation from manager of the season last year alright oh sorry we're gone yeah yeah yeah you know like the show carries on mate the show goes on Keith Andrews

2:05:52Reev:again but then there's the small sample had a good season

2:05:54Theo:small sample size we've done it with LeBrie and Carrick got to put him in B then ain't you I see I don't think he's better you see you don't want to just get into B like that yeah you don't you earn your stripes well Reggie Labrie has I'd happily move him down I think he's I think that's like yeah but Reggie Labrie is there because people put Sunderland in 19th and they finished 7th that is exceptional I still think he's a C manager no I think you'll see I think you'll see the season why he's a C manager. See the season. You'll see the season that he's a C manager. Odds on him doing the double over Yasel again?

2:06:33Oh, no. Not with that angry German.

2:06:35Reev:Would you put Keith above or below Farker? Above. Farker's way too high up there, by the way. He's not that good.

2:06:43Theo:Yeah, I think he's got to go above, hasn't he? Aye. But is it... Is he better than Carrick? This is the issue. Is it just Brentford just had a great season or is it down to him? That's what I mean. But you have to... I feel like you're giving the trust. so maybe that's an indication is he better than Frank? less sample size we can only go off

2:07:02Reev:what we've seen I don't mind how that looks I think that's I trust Frank's sample size everyone's going to be like oh my god Keith Andrews is so low you have to give him more time manager of the season and it's also manager of the season brother it's also a thing it's one year it's also a thing where it's like you have to

2:07:18Theo:we have contradicted ourselves we put Reggie LeBree that's what I said

2:07:21Reev:I don't think he should be there I think Keith should go up and bottom of B fuck it yeah why not

2:07:27Theo:whack him in bottom and B please I'll do it if you just want to do it please seems like a nice guy anyway yeah he earns it with that smile here we go then boys yep what have we got next and we'll let you know that's the obviously because we're doing it in reverse alphabetical order who's that the manager of the whole city manager

2:07:41Reev:no

2:07:42Theo:no we're at B now

2:07:44Reev:so who could it be that's the Bournemouth new manager

2:07:46Theo:yes and what's his name

2:07:48Reev:that is oh that's Jason Statham

2:07:53Theo:he's got hair he's got hair where Steve Jobs he's the brother of Danny his surname is a type of flower you'd give Valentine's

2:08:02Reev:Andy Dandelion

2:08:06Theo:Andy Dandelion oh it's Andy Dandy

2:08:12classic Andy Dandy oh Andy Dandy

2:08:15Theo:alright well let's do his name we'll tell you his surname if I said to you did he say his name I'm a flower hello that you gave on Valentines. Marco, Marco Rose.

2:08:25Reev:Yes!

2:08:30Reev:Marco Polo.

2:08:33Theo:Who's D? I mean, where'd he come from?

2:08:36Reev:Where'd he go?

2:08:37Theo:Where does he come from, Marco Rose? So his career is Lokomotiv Leipzig, Red Bull Leipzig. Is it Germany? Montengladbach, Dortmund, Leipzig. Leipzig. Leipzig. He's called Leipzig. Hey, look, he's got the same credentials as the Newcastle manager. yeah literally probably it's a C back to back Austrian Bundesleaguers at Salzburg

2:08:56Reev:serial winner

2:08:56Theo:didn't win a double though didn't get them into knockout rounds he did do it at Salzburg so I mean

2:09:01Reev:he has more of an impressive CV than the Newcastle manager he does and also you've got to remember that

2:09:06Theo:Bournemouth right did better than you I would put him they've got more ambition nah I'd put him above Frank

2:09:14Reev:yeah I don't I mean I don't mind you have to look at the CV and ultimately 100 % I'd call you a CV that's got like five draw pieces and then Keith Andrews. Yeah, he's definitely got a bit. You're contradicting yourself.

2:09:25Theo:Yeah, we've fucked this list up big time, mate. Massively. He's got a way better CV than Keith Andrews. Yeah, but Keith Andrews is not in the Premier League. Why is this guy whose name we've just learnt all sudden in C? How can we take ourselves seriously? We have a football podcast. Have you only just known who the Bournemouth manager is? I went fucking ages ago. Nah, I haven't seen this guy ever. Are we just not doing Premier League bias there? One season's apparently enough to get you and B. Good one though, wasn't it? It was in conversation from manager this season.

2:09:54Reev:It is quite impressive. Fucking get him and B.

2:09:57Theo:This is so wrong.

2:09:59Reev:I've done it all wrong. Put it, Tom. I've been arguing this. Tom! No, he would fucking be well-arshing everyone.

2:10:06Theo:Yeah, Tom would put 18 in D in him. You know, Tom isn't gone. I know you look for approval as well.

2:10:12Reev:Oh, someone's been in the comments. Someone's been in the comments. He's wrong 90 % of the time.

2:10:17Theo:You have a real thing. You get really angry that people think Tom's right. I realised as well, you know, Marco Rose has got deer eyes. What does that mean? That really kind eye.

2:10:25Reev:He looks like he's on a red carpet celebrity, doesn't he? Like a paparazzi fan.

2:10:29Theo:You know, when you look at a set of eyes and they're just really like, oh, he's got a nice eye.

2:10:34Reev:He meant he looked like a deer.

2:10:35Theo:Yeah, like the eyes of a deer. You know, like when you look at a deer's eyes. He looks like Brindolf. Oh, dear. Fuck it. Well, these two are easy S's then. Don't ruin it. We're doing one by one. But they know. The retention's going to go down. They know.

2:10:49Reev:Emery and Esti and Arteta and Esti Emery who's top? what's his first name? Arteta's top Marco Emery Arteta is above Emery there we are

2:10:58Theo:I've forgotten Emery's first name what is Emery's first name? well it's the one you can't pronounce properly

2:11:01Reev:yeah you nigh

2:11:02Theo:you nigh Emery Lewis do you agree with that? do you think Arteta's above Emery? you know you do why though? why is he better than Emery? yeah but like relatively Emery's done a better job yeah but did he do a better job by the club. The fact that he's actually solidified them as like a Champions League team. Well, Arsenal now have the best team in England. So that's pretty good from Arteta. Well, Emery's done something that Arsenal have never done in their history though and won a European trophy. And he's done it with Aston Villa. He actually stunk it up at Arsenal. No, that's irrelevant. What about now?

2:11:36I do not give a fuck about how Emery was 10 years ago at Arsenal. Right now with Aston Villa, I think he's doing a better job than Arteta.

2:11:44Theo:Arteta's won the Premier League. Yeah, they're both doing phenomenal jobs. They're both in Ness. I think Emery's doing Do you not think doing it at the bigger club counts for something though? Yeah, of course it does. But like, relative to... Champions League final? But like, relative to the... Do you think... Relative to the club, like, Emery's done a better job. Okay. In less time. Okay, that... In less time as well. That is true. That is true. But you've just said, and to quote, right now, who's the better manager? Emery. No, because the... Arteta's just got the team to a Champions League final and won the Premier League.

2:12:16Theo:Oh, don't go Arsenal on me. Don't go Arsenal. You don't celebrate Champions League finals. You only celebrate if you win it because you're Arsenal. That's your standard. You're stating it like you lost. Even more so, recently, Baird suggests that Arsenal are the best team in England. So would that not imply that the manager's done the best? I just think in the time that Emery's been at Arsenal Villa, in less time, he has done a more impressive job. He's done a more impressive job in less time with less resources.

2:12:41Reev:But also, Lewis, when Arteta came into Arsenal, the club was a fucking mess. Yeah, but you're Arsenal. You're fine. You can't just say the argument coming to you is Arsenal. It's relevant. The situation Aston Villa were in compared to where Arsenal picked up. They were both in Dianne. You were in Dianne compared to Aston Villa. Aston Villa were in way worse condition than you. Yeah, Aston Villa were in worse condition than Arsenal, absolutely. But in terms of Arsenal standards, there was a mess. I mean, realistically,

2:13:06Theo:realistically Emery is number one, isn't he? He's better. I don't think so. I think Arteta's a better manager. He's done a better job. Yeah, but if we were to do this. One Premier League. Yeah. I'm sorry. It took him like seven years. He argued Eddie Howe versus Arteta like two, three months ago.

2:13:19Reev:I was never arguing that. Well, he did.

2:13:22Theo:He did? Look, he's got you over the line, so he's moved from A to S, but it doesn't mean he goes above Emery. If he won the Champions League, then it would be impossible to argue.

2:13:31Reev:Yeah, fair enough. He won one more game last season, he would be above. Yeah, but that's the game that matters,

2:13:36Theo:isn't it? Okay. I mean, I was, to quote lack of a better word, playing devil's advocate, but I do think Emery's probably the best in the league. Get him swapped around. Arteta being second is not a bad thing. It always brings me

2:13:48Reev:so much satisfaction to see them get moved down. Really? I do.

2:13:54Theo:Fair enough. I do? No, I'm saying fair enough. I do.

2:14:00Reev:Right, well there we have it guys.

2:14:01Theo:Let us know if you'd change anything.

2:14:02Reev:I think that list might be god awful.

2:14:06Theo:Well, it's personal preference, isn't it? Any looking at that that you'd go, I think I got that one wrong. Carrick? No. Yes or no? I think Marco Rose being in the top of C is a little bit... No, you're a good CB. yeah we don't know we haven't seen him manage a single minute of Premier League yeah right bye as always guys Reddit's 5 stars on Apple Podcasts and Spotify we'll see you in the next one and don't forget to sign up to Dammel