*MELTDOWN* Arsenal Are BOTTLING IT, Ranking The Worlds Top 10 GK's & Our ALL TIME Man City-Arsenal Combined XI

29:12To me, I'd be like, he doesn't believe in us then if he needs to do that. Surely in the group chat, they're like, this is a bit fucking weird. That's how I'd feel. If I was a player, that's how I'd feel. I think he clearly doesn't believe in us if he's having to fucking do all these stupid, weird mind games. Is that not just part of his culture? I think at this point they probably have been around the players in the meetings at the club as well, being at the training ground. I do know that the players are fully behind them. Yeah, yeah. They are 100 % behind them and they'll do whatever. They would have bought into it.

29:38They would have bought into it. Oh, it's not. I think you're wrong with what you're saying. I agree they would. They'll be bought into it. I've not said how I'd feel as a player. I'd feel like, well, he doesn't believe in me then if he's having to do all these bollocks. I think you're looking too deep into that. Yeah. I don't think I am. I don't think the players are... He's eccentric at the best of times. I don't think the players are looking around going, fucking hell, why is he doing this? It's like, we're used to this kind of... Jokes aside, he's trying to keep it fresh. He's also used to it not working.

30:05Yeah, I mean, the win percentage in April is horrendous. Yeah. It's my turn. It's like... No, juxtaside, he's trying to keep the mundane bit fresh. I doubt that's actually going on through the serious bits of trade and we just see those glimpses. Just when the camera's on there. And also, it could even be an element that we're talking about. It's not a culture of context, mate. But I do think of it, it's like, it's not even worth it because you know all social media is going to talk about it and if you don't get the result. The same with Liam Rossini and the stupid huddles. Everyone's berating you over this and it makes you look a bit silly.

30:32so like you're putting the players in an awkward place I think I think the players will be pissing in pants and going on his back I don't avoid them in the whole way we'll get on to the I don't think so we'll get on to the big game on Sunday later let's talk about Newcastle soft underbelly eh yeah well that's our whole season we have the softest underbelly in the league weirdest thing is yeah you'd be drawing first in points right can I address that start that start is obviously everyone that is mental It's a super stat because what about all the other teams that have lost points from winning positions?

31:06No, that's included. That's included. That's included in every single team. Yeah, yeah. So that Premier League table where Arsenal and New Canada would be on 67 points includes every team that's been in winning position. I also think it's just fucking stupid because football isn't just like... No, I think that's... There is a psychological... No, I think, yeah. As soon as someone... Anytime someone levels a game, someone's been in front. That's not how... Yes, correct. That's what it implies. Yeah, but no, no, no, no, no. The reason that's interesting is because it shows that we're going in and whatever tactics we're trying to implement often gets us in the lead.

31:42And it's, Hal said it himself. He came out, I was like, that's really annoying because we don't go 1-0 up and try and build on that. And that's what we want to try and do. So it's something that's, it's proof of a bottle. Like in every single player, it's like, as soon as you go up 1-0. No, because the tactics got you to 1-0 up. but the tactics also got you to concede to go back no but like I'd argue if you are consistently going in the lead the tactics are actually getting you into it is your ability to you're not doing that it's your ability to actually keep implementing that yeah but the game becomes different once you concede doesn't it it is and we're often a different team when we come out in the second half like we're so much worse every time we come out in the second half like Eddie Howell's team talk I love Eddie Howell I don't know what he's doing in those team talks fuck me don't concede guys He must be reading them poetry.

32:30The weirdest part about this match, by the way, is that... I've... It was two poor teams and what I watched. I didn't know it. I don't know. Who's the striker that scored the brace? I've not a fucking clue. I don't know who that is. Oh, can I talk about this, by the way? Not a clue. Not a clue. What the fuck is Wissar doing giving Mateta his fucking shirt? Did he come on, Wissar? No. Oh, yeah. By the way, he's a prick. Sell him. He's already been a knob crying and all this shit, like in the Sunderland Post or whatever, even if that was real. He gives him Give him a test I don't care if it's not real We're talking about shirt swapping You give him a test The guy who's just scored a brace And made us lose You're top And he's walking around the pitch With your name on the front What the fuck are you doing You knobhead He's such a prick Fucking sell him I think they were getting a bit There was a bit of abuse In the away end Wasn't there yesterday Towards the players And the manager Yeah I mean They've got the best player In every position in the world This is an old thing Because I don't actually see What these days I will say though The revisionism is crazy The thing that The reason why this isn't as excusable is because we've had three weeks.

33:32We had a pretty fucking strong team. There's only one game this week. These have just paid a few days ago and we still come out and play like absolute shit. They are notoriously bad as well after playing. So like there is absolute, like even for me, the excuses I have given for how, all of those were off the table this game and we lost two, one. You're four points below Sunderland. Do you think Sunderland will finish above in the table? We're going to go on a run. Nah, probably. Aren't they with shit? Yep So when you owe me As a better game Remember when you laughed at me You said No man Sunderland are better than us They're not going to finish Above us It was Palace and Newcastle Wasn't it And they're both now ahead of them Do you see how I think Sunderland are actually better than you No They've done the double over you No because again Because again like Even with them doing the double overs And finishing above us Like they're not better Than Newcastle They are by definition better than you Yeah you could go by that But we're actually using like You could go by that No logic If you go by logic They're actually like Newcastle's a better team Yeah you have better individual players but it doesn't make you a better team yeah correct yeah this season we're not a better team I feel like no hang on a second how dare you say that because that's what that's my whole point I was making at the time I agree that's my whole point there is no other metric to deciding but when I said this I said at the moment they are a better team how are they not a better team we've got better players you were coming at me as well I know I agree we're playing terribly but we have better players than them that doesn't make you a better team I agree I'm just you're arguing at me of nothing I agree they've been a better team than us this season.

34:55No, no, they are a better team. Well, no, not in the whole. If someone finishes above fucking, like... Who's a better team? Everton or Spurs right now? Yeah, exactly. It's the same point. Yeah, no, but Spurs have been bad for like two seasons in a row. They've been in relegation battles. Like Newcastle's... They won a trophy. Some of them weren't in the league last year. I feel like a general consensus on Newcastle would be this is a run... If you went to play a player at Tottenham Hotspur versus Everton, you'd say Spurs have a better squad. Yeah. So that's the point he'd make. I don't know if you would.

35:25Beto or Solanke? Majority of the players across the board. Beto or Solanke? Solanke. That's one already. No, but like all the excuses were off the table there and we still fucking bottled it and we have to listen to the same bullshit talk afterwards, which is not. Lewis, 14. Yeah, it's genuinely shit that way. Your saving grace is that Leeds are, what, nine points below you, but they've got a game in hand to be fair. They beat United tonight. You could be... In the relegation battle, yeah. Lewis, I'm going to ask you this question every week now. is Eddie Howe going to be manager in August is he going to be if he doesn't go on a good run honestly he needs if he doesn't like less of the good run he's in happening let it go I know I'm answering the question based on what you've seen yes or no well no for him to stay in the job he has to like win like basically like you can drop you can drop a couple of results but he has to win the remainder of the games this season and end strong to give a bit if he wins all the games what would that be it's staying in the position wouldn't it in one of the games he won six more Premier League games I think regardless they're sticking with them but they've got Bournemouth next and then Arsenal we're not asking what he has to do to keep the job we're asking based on what you're seeing and based on what is probably going to happen is he going to be in the job come August I think they're going to keep him no matter what I think we will is that the right decision though?

36:44the question is who is it we'll get in replace then? are we all as but in links? I just I don't the reason I'm hesitant to just like all of a sudden scrap it and be like start again is because this season's been shit but we've actually played really good football over the last few seasons and I think you're a victim of Newcastle getting into Europe it's happened again next season you'll probably be really good because you'll be back to one game a week but that's unfortunate you can't just keep doing that as a club but the reason it becomes more and more clear why we're so bad this season the transfer window we had like 200 million pounds worth of player on the bench.

37:25We had Wisser on the bench, Volta Marder's on the bench, Ramsey's on the bench. None of these, like you can afford to... Part of that's got to come at his feet, mate. Oh, it's got to. No, it 100 % does. I thought Wisser would be a good transfer. It 100 % like... A ridiculous amount of money though. It was a lot of money. Wisser's a prick. No, it 100 % lands at Eddie Hellsfeet and a few others, but it's like, I don't think... A few others. I feel like it's easy to get a bit rash and say, right, get him out, start all over again. I think that's a bit silly when you've seen... I don't think 32 games in the Premier League being 14th.

37:55You're about to win the league? Lou, you're talking about it's a bit rash to get rid of Newcastle at 14th when you're talking about Saka Arteta who's about to win the league. I mean, I'll happily explain why that's different here but I feel like it's quite obvious. I really don't think it's rash to be saying maybe Eddie Howe's taken Newcastle as far as he can because of... We've got a whole season. You've lost more games than Leeds. Maybe it's not rash but my personal opinion is I don't... I wouldn't trust... You've lost more games than Leeds who are newly promoted. Yeah, it made this season. If you asked me at the start of the season, would I sack Eddie Howe in this scenario?

38:25I would have said no. And I'm pretty sure you did ask me, like, what would it take? Like, I can finish in 17th and losing to Sunderland. I've been quite consistent in like, he has one season grace. And if we start next season, really shit. I think he should be trusted with a proper window where it's going to be transformative window. Loads of people leaving. I was going to say, he spent a lot of money last season. No, yeah. It's a proper window. I agree. Also, dude. I'm going to give another proper win here. Would a proper window not be keeping your best players as well? What? Would your proper window not be keeping your best players?

38:56No, no, no. This window isn't about that. We're looking to sell and shift players. They don't want to keep them. That would imply that... Again, again. That would suggest that you won't get better. No, if we want to improve in time, because of how bad this first window was, we have to sell big players if we're going to change teams. No, I understand that part, but that wouldn't suggest that you're going to get better. No, but the team right now is stale. It's simple as that. Oh, so you're going to make the team worse to get better? I mean, you're asking me a question. You're being a bit silly.

39:28Well, that's what I'm saying. I mean, I'm answering the question, but we can be silly. You sell your best players and then buy players that aren't as good. Do you want me to... That's what he's saying. Okay, can I explain to you? Yeah, so you sell your best players and then you buy players that aren't as good. So you're making your team worse. Well, no, that's obviously the plan is to sign players just as good or with as much... He's just being silly. look at his face he doesn't even know what he's on about I think Tonali's going to go I think that'll be a good sale we'll get a lot of money for him Bruno's the one who we have to keep because we're so bad without him I think lifetime contract I don't think he'll go also Bruno's got a long contract no but a selling fee and he's a bit older Tonali's the one he'll sell I think we'll see Livermento go we'll see Tonali go and I think we'll probably see Gordon go and hopefully we send Wisser to the reserves Hall Yeah Lewis Hall might I think he'll I don't think so I think Do you know what I can see a random one for Lewis Hall going Fucking Barcelona And I think That's serious I think what you'll see So he can pocket your man in training I think what you'll see as well is I think you'll see us build a team around Vultimada in the summer Like this team is ready to play around them Yeah well Anyway Newcastle are fucking wank But the pride of the North East Sunderland are not 1-0 against De Zerbi, Spurs.

40:45They could have won by more as well. Spurs are shit. So I listened to the first half on the radio. You watched it on the radio. And then we had both games, didn't we, at the pub. And I don't think I saw Spurs really get out their own half until... Slanky had a little opportunity there, wasn't it? Yeah, a couple of corners. That is not how I expected De Zerbi to set them up. No, I agree. But I saw, obviously, a quote from Conte from 2023. so this is what three years ago relevant then well it actually is yeah he said you can change a manager but you can't change a club it's quite relevant because you see the same patterns already it's actually quite relevant Tom Romero was crying yeah that was a great they just didn't look like they wanted it as much as like some of them beat them to every second ball some of them just better yeah I know that point anyway but you'd expect a bit of heart and desire I just think I just don't think this is the way to go for Spurs just putting 11 men behind the ball because they're shit.

41:47I think the way out of this is to have a go. They're going to concede anyway because they're shit. That's why they were so enjoyable to watch last season under Andrew. It's because they were having a go. They were scoring four but also conceding four. That was more the season before. But that's, I feel like, the only way they're going to win. And considering how Deserby usually coaches, I thought that's what he'd do. Maybe this is just the first game I'm away from home Okay Who've they got next I think they're down mate They're sore down They reek of it Reek You can smell it on them The thing with Spurs They've got Brighton at home Yeah the thing I've thought about Spurs is If If they were to drop In the bottom three I just don't think They've got the bottle to get out Yeah And they're out two points a drip I thought they'd be okay Because I just never thought They'd drop into it I think it's the same Angle we were seeing for ages It's like a lot of those players there They're not fighting for the careers They know You can see it You have a move in the...

42:42You have a move, you're a leaver. If you look compared to West Ham, who just looked so good against you, sorry Will, but they want to stay in the Premier League. A lot of those... First off, Wolves are the better team. But what I see, a lot of those players in the West Ham team, a lot of those players in the West Ham team won't get a Premier League move. That's what I'm saying, they're fighting to stay in the Premier League. and it's that mentality difference so big for a relegation battle. Also, they've got a better manager who used to being in this position. I said, that's why they... Mate, Spurs should have got Daishin He should have Oh yeah I agree 100 % How much should we be reading Into Romero's tears Do you think that's him All for the camera All for show Do you reckon it's what it is Do you think he's able to fake tears Probably He's able to fake being A competent centre He's hyper emotional So why not Are you getting on the He's shit train now Is that really what you want to see When you're in a relegation battle No no no Imagine that Mate the fucking The visuals that that sends To every single other person In the club Just sum up their season It's just fucking It's embarrassing They are a walking embarrassment Yeah it is It is Catch a break And week on week It just It gets more embarrassing Well I mean Says you I think that just Well We'll see at the end Top of the league still At the moment Yeah I think that's a Like how hopeless they feel It's like they just Don't know what the fuck to do Yeah Gallagher was Fucking appalling as well Jesus Christ He should have gone to Villa Mate I don't know why they signed up I'm joking.

44:11He should be in the championship. He deserves to be in the championship. Maybe they're preparing ahead. Yeah. That's 200 grand a week. Yeah, for the championship. I just, yeah. It's starting to become a bit of a... I don't even know what to say anymore. You laugh and joke about it. You laugh and joke about how Spurs are going down. And I know we've been talking about it for months. I'm not joking. No, but a lot of people are now being like, it's almost like the realisation of, oh, actually. They're gone. No, I think people have thought for a while, I feel like this is definitely possible, but...

44:41This is mental. They're as good as God. They are done. It's genuinely like the reverse Leicester City. Yeah. It's like, what? They won again. I've said that so many times. They won again the last two weeks. Oh, really? Oh, sorry. A bit of a dabbing statistic here. Only Derby in 2008, Sunderland in 2003, and Swindon in 1993 have had longer winless runs to start a calendar year in the Premier League than Spurs. All three of those were relegated. They've not won this year? No, they've not won. the last win was the 28th of December oh my god what are they going to do I don't even think they'll beat you at this point Will which I thought they'd get points from no I don't I think Wolves are going into that game we can fucking have them lads yeah Wolves have been alright lately yeah yeah I agree I think that I mean we'll move on to West Ham now I think that flattered West Ham I thought Wolves were the better team to be fair I think it was a game of the first half was new Wolves the second half was old Wolves but just capitulation West Ham scored at good times and then they just put the game to bed because obviously they are just a level above Wolves.

45:40Also, Mavropano's getting a brace. Yeah, some boy, isn't he? And the Italian striker scored two. Italiano. My guy. He's in the Argentine. Have you seen the TikTok scene? I'm a time traveller. Really? Yeah, but use it as evidence. It's finally come full circle. Yeah, people start to click. Nationality rock. Nah, he's Italian. That one was brilliant, I thought. I quite like that. Tattie, though. No, he didn't sell him. Tattie's good, isn't he? I do like him. He's a... I feel like he's been years... Well, since Antonio, they've never really had a competent forward, have they? They bought two, though, in January, didn't they?

46:11Yeah, they've got that, what's his name? The tall one. Yeah, they literally are a lot identical. Same guy. There's a nine-in-goal involvement, so, for Bowen in the last ten games. Do you still think they should have sold him? Yeah, they should have got rid. To be fair, I think West Ham... He's put him on their back. What I mean, to be fair, the job he's done, you know, they were dead. He turned him around. Do you remember that Forest game? they were dead and buried after they lost to Forest everyone was like they're gone they're down because they went 1-0 up as well didn't they isn't it mad how much of a difference just changing a manager can do to a football club well sometimes Forest haven't but it just speaks more to like that's dependent on who you change to it's just a bit of frustration though as well if you were a fan because the manager doesn't actually have that much impact overnight it's just a mentality of the players shifts or a bit they do nowadays they do nowadays I think overnight or till later I feel a lot of it it must be like all these players can't think for themselves mate they're all fucking Nuno had like one day's notice in Drew against Everton yeah they all need like telling what to do at every moment of every game oh god where do I go here gaffer fucking think for yourself it's also confidence as well like you said before with momentum like the players are like we can fucking get ourselves out it's just like a fresh start imagine it's a fresh start mentality is everything in football isn't it fresh bit of air yeah I mean another team do we still so are we all saying do you still think West Ham's still I said Forrest would go down yeah so I thought West Ham would I still think Spurs would go down yeah I'm sticking with Spurs I'm going to stick with West Ham you still come on just join us not even Leeds oh yeah Leeds Leeds are not out of it but I saw enough from Leeds against West Ham in the cup that I thought that would be alright because they've struggled to score lately but I think I think they'll be alright I think they've got enough who do you think finishes bottom Wolves yeah How the fuck are you 14th?

48:04No, I mean... One Wolves win. I don't know what the pictures are between the two of them, but... To be honest, yeah, I don't know. It doesn't matter, yeah. Forrest, Forrest O 'Reilly truly in it. Getting a draw against Villa. Good result. Good goal from Williams as well. Good result, but... I predicted that, actually. 1-1. Yeah? You predict these things. Yeah, but I think you predicted that more. Villa just scraping by to try and survive in the top five. Yeah, Rodgers looked bad. Yeah, Rodgers come back to himself a little bit, didn't he? Well, I was going to ask you about Rodgers. He's gone. Is he a Villa player come the start of the season?

48:36B, if not, where does he go? I think he'll be a Villa player. I think he stays at Villa. Do you not think, though, with Villa's sort of money issues? They need to sell a big player, really. Yeah, but who's going to spend £100 million on Rodgers? Arsenal, I think. Is he what you need? We need a winger. We need Kofi Kylia. No, but you just said he's back to his best and he's playing out wide left. Yeah, but he's not really. He's kind of like that. No, I know he is. I know he's not. This is the issue while we signed Eze. He's like, oh, you can play on the left. Yeah. We need a fucking winger. We need a winger.

49:04We need coverage. Kill it. That's bang on. It's a bit like Cunha at walls. He wasn't playing on the left. He was like coming, they're not really playing on the left. He's basically like a second striker, Roger. You need Saka, but on the left. Jesus, you need better than that. No, yeah. The logic would be, you could definitely see Arsenal doing that though. You could definitely, the fact that we've done that before. I could, yeah, because it wouldn't really make sense. Exactly. I could see him doing it. You've already got Erdogan, Eze. Why would you then go and spend 100 million on Rodgers? Because he's going to cost 100 million.

49:38I think it would be him or Gordon though, right? If we're going to go for that kind of... Gordon would be a better signing for Arsenal. Gordon would be better. We're not talking about Arsenal right now. Stop fucking making Where could he go to? Other than Arsenal, who do you think would spend that money? I don't think anyone. Bayern. Man United. Bayern have been linked. Bayern are liking this after Elisa. They've been linked with lords of young English players. No, but the Man United one's the exact same, isn't it? They've got Bruno in the 10 and then I'm not left. I can't. Chelsea. I think he gets a big move.

50:07Chelsea. Palmer Leafs. Not if they're in not in Europe. Yeah. Europe. If Villa get top four he's probably staying though, right? Or five, top five, whatever it is. Yeah, if he gets a trap and sleep you'd think. I think you just follow the first of all. He's the talisman for one of the biggest clubs in the country. He'll probably get a new contract. He'll be playing in Europe. He's in the England team anyway. There's actually no reason for him to leave unless it is a Bayern Munich or... Unless it's like trophy, like he knows he's guaranteed trophies. I know you said the link, I can't see Bayern going for Rodgers.

50:40I think you'd be surprised. He is a star, like Rodgers is a star player. There's players moving aboard like that and it's like that because they're seeing the likes of all these players that have been well out there. For a few months, Rodgers. You know, you said he's the best player in the league at one point. It's ceiling ties, isn't it? I think you did actually. I think you did say that. I said he was better than Bellingham. The problem is, if he goes to Bayern, who does he displace at that point? They can't get rid of Louis Diaz or release it, can they? And they've already got Karl, haven't they?

51:05Yeah, but Karl's going around with Jürgen. Is he? Good old Karl. I know he said that. But yeah, to answer your question, I think he's still a Villa player. Yeah, I agree. If they go to Champions League, definitely he'll stay for one more. Somebody who isn't staying, Rob and Mo Salah. No, Robertson might. Is it? He only goes to Tottenham if they stay up. He's leaving Liverpool Is that what the actual link is? I thought he's just leaving. No, he's leaving. He's definitely going to leave Liverpool. He's definitely leaving Liverpool. Oh, yeah, sorry, sorry, sorry. Yeah, yeah. Rob and Salah. Yeah, I miss it.

51:35Rob, we loved you, man. Good result for Liverpool, really, wouldn't it? How good was Rio, by the way? I thought they'd lose this, so yeah. Mate. Did you? Yeah, I'm pretty good. Harry Rosenbacker is on. Well, obviously... I know we discussed it briefly on Pitchside stream. Are we all in agreement that Rio should be taken to the World Cup for that left-hand side? Yeah, I don't mind that at all. I think he should. I like him. Maybe. His directness, his... I was the only one who I'd pay my squad. Someone of that age is probably the best representative, isn't he? 100%. Because you look at... Everyone's saying, Downman, this, Downman, that.

52:07But we've got so many tens. We also need to stop going on. Whereas Rio is a position that we actually need on that left-hand side. He's also proved himself at this level. Downman hasn't. Yeah. Yeah. I think, yeah. There's weirdly way more noise around Downman. It's fucking really weird. It is. He's a whole year younger. There is more noise around youngsters at Arsenal, though, isn't there? Yeah, I think bring him. Fuck it. He brings a bit of energy. He's shown he can do it in big moments. He's a great goal. When he's been... Did it against you? Yeah, that's what I mean. He came on against us and got the goal.

52:39He'll be fearless. He'll fucking go for it, man. He looks so confident when he runs at defenders. He's so sharp. He's so nippy. He's more... He's the exact top of a winger I love. If you're a defender and you see someone coming on, I feel like you're more hoping for Dalman to come on over a real. 17. Quick one and more, Salah. 20 goals and assists this season. How's he done that? It's almost like stats actually don't mean everything, do they? When did he do that? I'm sorry, but... Precisely. You know that goal, right? It's like a tidy finish. It just looks crap. Yeah, I've been telling you this for years.

53:12The way he hits the ball, it doesn't make sense. Do you not think that's quite impressive that he's got 20 G and it's like a horrendous season? No, because if you watch football, he's shit. No, but what I'm saying is that's testament to his output. But if Mo Salah plays well, Liverpool play well, that tends to be what happens. So we're kind of forgetting how important to him he actually is. Not anymore, because he doesn't play well. And they also got fucking Gakbo in that team who's shit as well. He holds them back. It's a bit like Jokeres this season. If you actually look at his stats, not that bad.

53:43If you watch him, it's dreadful. Nah, nah, that's what he wrote. Like dreadful. Not everything is about goals. It's not Jokeres' fault. More goals are just scored nowadays. Dry pitch. Dry pitch. Dry pitch, wasn't his fault. Oh yeah, sorry, it was a dry pitch. I'll just yeah yeah fuck him well on the topic of friend of the show yeah on the topic of well yeah Viking friend of the show oh no on the topic of potential you lot missed the stream potential England call ups yeah Kieran and G's in and around get him on the plane sexy Viking I don't think he'll go but I think he should sexy Viking might be a rogue one he might just fucking do it too shall he he's known to be a crazy guy I mean he covers multiple positions as well so yeah I mean I think he deserves it with the the only Baron Spellizad is when he's been injured.

54:26Exactly. Other than that, he's been one of the best midfielders in the league. Yep, agreed. He's helping Everton into eight. Look at them. They're kicking on them. What do you reckon he... I think he gets sixth. There's a point where they were with one of Moisal, weren't they, this season? Was that a thing? What? I'm sure that was the thing at one point. Genuine question, what do you think he has to do between now and the end of the season to be on that one? Score every game. I don't know. That's a difficult question. I feel like there's not really much he can... There's not much more he can do.

54:50Unfortunately, he plays in a position where you've got Palmer, Bellingham, Rogers. It'll be circumcised. If Tuchel is really standing by this, I'll pick players on four. He can play the eight, though. Yeah. I think it'll be down to circumstance, like an injury, and then he's the one coming in. On four, he deserves to be on the plane, right? Yeah. We depend on who misses out. Alex Scott, Gibbs White. There are a few. Take him off, Gibbs White. I do just think unfortunately he's at that level don't take Henderson I'd be on board with that but unfortunately he's at that level where even if he goes he's probably not going to feature so why would he waste that spot on a Dewsville when he could have Henderson who's obviously got a big impact on the squad I don't know that's the way I'd probably look at that I'm not in the mind of Tommy T I think we do get bogged down with these but if Forden doesn't go could that be a spot open there because Tuchel's literally said that it's not a guaranteed spot for Foden no that's what I mean so is that now a spot off I don't think Foden goes I don't think he does I think he's chatted shit to so I think he's bluffing I personally take Drew's rule but I don't think he will go yeah is Igor Thiago going to go to the World Cup for Brazil he just started and scored could we see a Brentford player playing for Brazil 100 % he won't start he started last Brazil game he won't start who does is it Jal Petra that starts Jared Bowen started the last game for England If he gets a minute at the World Cup, I'll shoot myself.

56:20Who starts over? Is it Jao Pedro that is the ninth for Brazil? No, not Bowen. I'll be Igor. Jao Pedro. Jao Pedro, that's what's... Well, he's become the first Brazilian to score 20... Well, he's on 21 now, Premier League goals in a season. He's only won behind Ireland, hasn't he? Oh, Jao Pedro. Jao Pedro did start, but Igor came on and scored. Did you see everyone going, what about Diego Costa? Never did it. No, no, because he changed nationality. Spanish as well. English or Spanish. Yeah. What? but yeah what a good season question obviously the running we've all said Harland's you know not playing that well I think you will target Scotland's good that was my question do you think he will do you think Premier League will get relegated no but again like what are we going to do just pull up everything we said at the start of the season oh that's a rattle we can I think he will get the golden boot I'm just checking how much you owe me for that 100 I think on a million pounds as Reeve yesterday there are so many I don't think I've won one Shut up What are my other ones There's only just£50 FPL And finally I knew we'd be getting bored And finally Brighton Burnley were good by the way Burnley were good today Burnley were good today So they're going to Spurs next Well that's 5-0 to Brighton Yeah but what's Brighton's last few games 1-1 like they've won five of the last six yeah they're due a loss are you think it's going to be special that's Brighton all over yeah I know it is 1-1 loss 1-1-1 they're going to lose to Spurs that's just what Brighton do do you think Brighton will finish fifth they have every chance by the way well I was going to ask you so you've got top five sixth maybe looks not settled no they don't have every chance of finishing no but that's not the question you put them in top five it's close enough right I want Eton one of years to see who's finishing sixth and seventh be your goal first oh Mate, I'm 31.

58:15I genuinely think Brentford gets sixth and Everton gets seventh. I'm going to go Everton's sixth, Chelsea's seventh. I think Everton's sixth, Brentford's seventh. Keep it as it is. Chelsea's sixth, Brentford's seventh. Ooh. That's how it's going to end. Only two of you have Chelsea in the top seven. Just snowball. Look at the form. I think it's just fucking snowballing down, aren't it? You're right, Luke. I think form is a lot of key factors. It's all momentum at this point in the season, Matt. Exactly, exactly, exactly. Anyways, guys, that was the Premier League review. Make sure you like and subscribe.

58:51And if you're listening on audio, we're moving on to the next clip. So hello, audio listeners. You're still sticking around for all the daily pitch side content. Hey guys, I've got a great idea. Why don't we rank the best 10 goalkeepers in the world? Why do you like that? I love that. I'm introducing the clips. I absolutely love that, by the way, because there are some really good goalies. And actually a lot of goalies who are, maybe towards the end of their career, who are still doing fantastic. And speaking as a goalkeeper, you know, this is my favourite topic talking about goalkeepers. You should really be the most knowledgeable on this pitch.

59:21You should be Oracle. Can I go first? Yeah, this is off the back of, obviously. We should save you until last. Reeve's back so Reeve can go first. But this is off the back of two big performances from Neuer and Raja in the Champions League. Can I just ask a question? Is this a really poor pool of top goalkeepers? Yeah, I think so. A lot of them have been around for a while, I think. Do you know what I think? If you look back at the level of goalkeepers maybe 20 years ago, there was like six or seven world-class keepers. I think now there's barely three world-class. I think maybe four or five. That's still less.

59:58I mean, like the area of Buffon, Casillas. Is that just because of back in Deere, it was more about shot-stopping rather than playing with your feet? That's what I mean. I think the level of actual goalkeeping, which is keeping the ball out the net, has dropped. And actually, if I look at my list now, there's a few names who have been around a while who are in that list. Precisely. Keepers do get better with age a little bit, though, don't they? It's true. It's very true. We've got some old boys that are actually... Go on, Australia. Yeah, I'll go first. I will preface this. I don't like him, but I still think he's top 10.

1:00:30I've gone with Edison. Have you really? In the Saudi league. No, Fenerbahce. He's in Fenerbahce, mate. I still think he's got something I forgot he existed mate What? He's not retired Yeah he may as well be Once they leave Europe He's finished mate Turkey's in you I'll be interested to see If you put in Turkey's in Africa Yeah that's a generational moment From Lewis Bowden Yeah I did that twice actually I kind of feel like 7 to 10 is A little bit You know Personal preference And then the top 6 Almost you know Decide themselves So 9th I've got Jan Sommer Eighth I've got Jordan Pickford Yeah I like that Seventh Oblak Oblak?

1:01:12Yeah Still cooking it I've left it on Like Oblak Mate he's still doing it in the Champions League Mate he's still got it Oblak has for sure He's been there all the time Did you forget about him? No I didn't forget I didn't know he's been Has he played many games this season? Yeah Are you sure? Yeah Wow fair enough You know what Oh there you go Madrid How old is he? He's 33 You should be watching him We're about to play him Yeah, I know, but I thought he was way older than that. It's fucking fantastic. No, it's because he's been good for ages, though, isn't it? So when he was top of his game, he was in his early 20s.

1:01:43Well, Donnarum is still 17. 16. Yeah. He's played 40 games this season. Yeah, it's well impressive. Six, Garcia. Sick. Yeah. I think the top five are still the top five. Yeah, you really overrate him. Don't. You really do. Don't. He's good, but he's... I don't actually like him, mate. I think he's shit. He was poor against you, to be fair, but he's good, to be fair. Nah, he's fucked well. He does have that in him. That's what I mean. If we're top 10 in the world. For me, the top five are just better than him. You can interchange the order, I think. I think the top five are better than number six.

1:02:17Yeah, but you know what I'm trying to say. I don't think he's broken into the top five of keepers in the world. Fifth, I've got Alisson. Fourth, Manuel Neuer. On recent performances, third, I've got Donnarumma, second, Raya. And then first, I think it's still Thibaut Courtois. I'll go because the one's pretty similar. 10th I've gone Pickford 9th I've gone Martinez Yeah I think He's still in there I think he's still in there Why do you think He's still in there I think he's overrated But I still think Especially big games Big moments And international stage He's still I just think I'd quite like If he was in my team I would feel quite secure I agree He's certainly a leader As well isn't he 8th I haven't gone with Summer I've gone with My nan I think he's better than him Oh she's good is she Yeah she's She's actually dead Ed.

1:03:03That's both mine. He's actually got... Oh, you went to 11 and Riff, eh? Yeah, I did, yeah. Mine and in eighth. Because, thing with him, right, every time I watch him, I do think he's great. But I thought that about Onana when he was at Inter as well. I have a thing with these Italian goalkeepers. Yeah, like... You have a thing for them? Yes. That was my decision for 10 between Edison and mine. I even used to think it with Donnarumma, like, then he has proved me wrong. But sixth, I've gone all black. fifth I've gone Neuer fourth Alisson and then my top three is the same Donnaroo and Mariah then Courtois now Garcia then yeah he's seventh oh is it oh I don't think you said it though I did did he say it out loud yeah seventh Joan Garcia yeah because I said I didn't like him that was to my one oh was it what was your top three top Donnaroo and Mariah with mine and straight to Oblak oh no Garcia's seventh Donnaroo and Mariah Courtois there's top three isn't it go on Ludog no it's you he's the keeper Um...

1:04:33I'm the undefeated keeper decided to go with him instead of Diogo Costa because they were heavily linked. I think it was more money though, wasn't it? It's just cheap. They're lemons. Interesting. Diogo Costa's been linked with a lot of top clubs for a while now. Same as mine. He probably will leave. I'll be honest, I just don't watch him enough to rate him. In nine, I've got Jan Sommer, top of Serie A, doing pretty fucking good as usual, isn't he? I don't rate him that highly, to be honest. Not anymore. I like him. He is. They've got a very good record this year, defensively. Yeah, they always do.

1:05:04Eight, I've got Martinez same as you I think he's still top keeper 7 Pickford 6 Alisson 5 Juan Garcia 4 Neuer 3 Raya 2 Courtois and 1 Donnarumma No old black I just didn't think about him I just didn't think about him Garcia over Alisson I think Alisson's still one of the best goalies in the world I just think this season I don't think you can I don't think you still remove Alisson from the top five Depends where you put him No but I'm saying I don't think you should I think he's still A top 5 keeper Why do you think He's still A top 5 keeper What's he proved He's one on one mate Yeah He's the best He's the best in the world At one on ones I mean so for that Like Yeah the amount of points That saves you Throughout the season It's crazy He hasn't been His peak best Like this season And maybe last season But I think a lot of that's to do With what's gone on In front of him Yeah I agree with them I like Olsen He's high on my list So you know Juan Garcia will be a top three goalie of the world I know I know I'm hoping it's five but I think he's on that trajectory to be up there I really I think you really overrate him I also think if you're basing it on this season like admitting Oblak is a bit mental yeah that's totally fair okay cool as long as we're in agreement yeah I am in agreement okay right I don't know I just didn't I just thought like did you have did you have Neuer above Garcia yeah four yeah yeah but not Alisson no fair enough well don't worry No one's performance in the Champions League last week.

1:06:34He's still got it, hasn't he? Even after his leg break and coming back and he's just like that good still. Is he the best keeper of all time? I think so. Yeah, he is. Well, he's currently not Germany's number one. Testegen is. He said, I'm not going to the World Cup. Where's Testegen at? Dortmund, isn't he? Has he gone to Dortmund? I think so. He's shit him. I think he's the best of all time. He's rubbish. I agree. I also wanted to say, so we've got Testegen, he's not Germany's number one in the top ten. And Raya is not Spain. And Raya is not number one. Unai Simon is still number one for Spain, which is just beyond me.

1:07:05Yeah, they're one, two, three of keepers. He's good. Why are they not? Who's the manager? He's just like refusing to fucking make Raya number one. Not sure. He's just got his favourite. Because he's better. He's not really. Okay, I've got the correct answers. Don't worry. It's Telefuente still, the manager. In 10th, I've got Unai Simon. 9th, I've got All Black. 8th, Mr. Pickford. Pickford ahead of All Black. That's crazy No it's not That's so crazy In crazy mode That is It's different You guys I'll look at The difference is You didn't think he was playing That's even crazier The fact that you didn't know He was playing this season He's played 40 games The difference is I'll look at it from A keeper's perspective Mate it's going to be Raya versus Oblak What do you prefer about Pickford over Oblak His command of the area Oblak does that way better No it doesn't No he doesn't Pickford or England though Come on No he doesn't and Pickford's a better Pickford's isn't that good for climbing crosses no it's like tell me what to do like number seven come in I knew it Musso started to go against Barcelona no wonder I didn't think of Old Black fucking knew it right he didn't start against Barca what's that got mad in the match yeah Musso got mad in the match yeah well Kepa started in the fucking league do you just win do you just win and then in the league the game before is Old Black is he injured yeah but Martinez is injured now as well yeah I know he's injured at the moment do you just judge this off like the last picture of every team.

1:08:30a hot pack played a football match? Hang on. Let's rewind. Well, he's played 40 this season. Don't worry about it, Tom. Don't worry about it. He last played Tuesday the 10th of March against Spurs. He had a stinker. So it's an injury, isn't it? At least a month ago, lads. Okay. Right. My brain only works last two weeks. Seven. Oh, get out your swimsuits because it's summer.

1:08:57Sick. Lewis, Lewis, you have to do this for every goalkeeper from now on. Sixth, I'll call you back. God's sake, I'm busy. It's my nan. You like that? Why my nan over like Pickford? That's quite high. Old Black and the East lot. He's doing it at the top level in the Champions League. They're not even in the Champions League. Did they even play? Were they even in it this year? I don't think they were, were they? They were. Yeah, they were. They were. Yes, they were. I don't think Milan were in it. You don't know what you're talking about with football. Milan were in the Champions League. Milan went to the Champions League.

1:09:27I really don't think they were. When was the last time you won? They won 2-0. Well, last week. I don't... Unless I've... Milan weren't in the Champions League. No, they weren't. They weren't even in Europe. Didn't they finish 10th last season? They weren't even in Europe. They finished like 9th in the league, didn't they? What the fuck are you talking about? So he's doing it at the top level. So the top level... Is it because he's got a high rate of FIFA? I don't play FIFA. I can't even use that. So at the top level, he's finishing 9th in the Serie A. No, I'm going off... He has been good this season.

1:09:55He has been good this season. Why are we talking down to my nan? I agree you can maybe include him, but to use your point of he's done it at the top level in the Champions League when he's not played a game in the Champions League. He won the Supercoppa Italia. They finished eighth last season. They won the Supercoppa Italia, mate. Lou, you're mental. You've picked him based on the fact you thought he was in the Champions League. What evidence have I ever given you a beaten mental? My nan is a really good goalie, but you said he's doing it at the top level in the Champions League. They're not even in the Europa League.

1:10:21By the way. They're not even in the Conference League. But neither is Pickford. No, but you can't say... You predicted it as a reason. That's what I'm saying, by the way. You said he's doing it in Champions League. Because he's been doing it really well in Champions League this year. No, no. He asked why other thingy. And I mistakenly said that. I was incorrect. But still, that doesn't mean that Pickford should be above him. No, no, no. No one said that. Yeah, but you're impressed. I'm saying my name is above Pickford. Yeah, for a reason that doesn't exist. You did object that. For a reason that doesn't exist.

1:10:48No, I also just think my name's about Kiefer. Why? You should have said that. What have you seen in Pickford? So from a goalkeeper's perspective, like it's just command of area you liar wait wait do you know do you know what foot he is huh huh come on no because you're trying to play silly gooses with me here silly gooses he's obviously right footed thank you he is yeah they just lost 3-0 to Udinese that happens that happens in football it wasn't my nan's fault they had a penalty but you watched it you obviously watched the France game yeah they did they had a pen against him no yes they did You watched him against Brazil for France, didn't you?

1:11:25No. I didn't catch that one. Oh, you didn't catch it? He did start there. I thought you were setting me up. I thought there wasn't a Brazil against France. Fifth, I got Neuer. Class. He just is like. Fourth, I got Raya. Fucking hell. What? I mean, again, when you're getting into the top echelons of these keepers. Mate, Raya is incredible. Yeah, but when you get to the top echelons of these keepers, you're talking about like the creme de creme. Are you going to hold your nerve when it really matters? That Bournemouth game alone proved it and I'm sticking with Alison above Ryan. What about the entire season?

1:11:59Yeah, but the reason we won at Sporting is because of how good he was. Has he got back-to-back golden gloves in the prep? Everyone above them here has won trophies with the club. That's not all about being a goalkeeper. It is when you're at the very top level. Yeah, but in fairness, that is a good point. We slighted Arsenal at Sporting. They only won because of Ryan. But he also bottled against Bournemouth. Even beside that point, I still have Alison above Ryan. Why did he bottle it? It was a deflected He's just like Nervy He doesn't He doesn't Alison has that bit Of fucking aura Back to back golden gloves Even beside Alison's made more Miss Aston season Even besides Any of this I think Alison's still A better keeper than Raya Alright I feel like Because Alison's had Liverpool in general They've all had a bad season Alison Like it's actually A bit disrespectful I think to be like Right Raya's better than Alison Do you not Raya's been doing it For like three years Do you not think Do you not think the trajectory of rise a little bit like this and Alisson's is almost that.

1:12:55But I feel like it's easy to feel like Alisson's worse than what he is because his levels are so high. I don't think Alisson is the one issue. I put him in team of the season pretty much every year so I'm in the camp of Alisson is incredible. I think you've got to look at it objectively from this season as to what you've seen. But we never do that with these lists unless we state currently and it wasn't stated currently. Well it's not last year is it? I feel like it does come into like overall like you take in the recent seasons and like Alisson's standing in the game he's definitely Do you think Alisson will be number one at Liverpool next season or be Mourinho and Josh Vili?

1:13:27Nah it'll be Alisson I think he'll leave I think he'll leave as well Raya's been better than Alisson for the last two years Every time we do this list Raya closes it in my books but I'm just not ready to say goodbye to Alisson yet like shoot me I'm a keeper I like him He's going to leave in the summer Second I've got Courtois and then first I've got Donnarumma That's really weird actually What makes you put Courtois below Donnarumma? Donnarumma's just fucking huge. Oh, really? Is that why your mind changed from two weeks ago? I didn't say that last time. Yep, you put Donnarumma in two and Courtois in one two weeks ago.

1:14:02Well, there's a lot of change since then. I can say a lot of change since then. What list is it? This is the top three in the Premier League. Oh, sorry, I'd just like to put... Wait, wait, wait. And who did he have third? Wait, top three in the Premier League? No, in the world. Courtois don't play in the Prem. I didn't do that. Who did he have third? You had Alisson third, Donnarumma second, Courtois first. Yeah, so I could tell you in recent games, It's just like, now Man City have started to cook on. Like, Donnarumma's won a trophy since then, kept a clean sheet. Oh. It's huge. Well, he won a trophy and kept a clean sheet.

1:14:31He's on to win a treble, so I actually think that's fair to him. He didn't play in the game, by the way, that they were. Yeah, I forgot about that. Just to double check as well, your reasoning for Donnarumma ahead of Courtois is because he's massive. Yeah, Courtois is not... My man's good in the Champions League, but Courtois is bigger. No, I'm on about... No, no, no, Donnarumma's bigger, but Courtois is bigger than him. So how does that work? No, but it's more like where his presence and goal is massive. Yeah, but we've just established Korto's actually bigger. Yeah, but you're missing as a goalkeeper as well.

1:14:59When you look at it from a goalkeeper's point of view, it is, he has his command of area. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Korto's also won more in multiple leagues. Done it in Champions League. And Donnarooza had huge moments against England, unfortunately. Penalty saves. Dragging them through to success on the international stage. Oh, really? Yeah, I've changed it. Oh, what's that? Hang on, Luke. Silence, bitch. Luke, I just want you to know He's also changed his list in two weeks. I think Rye's better than Donnarumma. Two weeks ago, you said Rye's worth than Donnarumma. I know I did. So what's changed in two weeks?

1:15:32Rye's ability in the Champions League. I think that game alone is probably... I also don't think that's that crazy of a turn. I also said in that video that two and three is really close. Also, Donnarumma has had a few flappy moments in the last few weeks as well. I do think it's close between Donnarumma. They're very different goalkeepers, aren't they? I think Donnarumma and Courtois are more similar. Yeah. But I think Courtois is just better. And also, yeah, I'm just about to say, seeing Kepa performances has made me appreciate Ryan. Yeah. Kepa's so bad. One thing you've all got in common, Pickford is in your top 10.

1:16:09100%, man. Is this because the level's dropping or is he actually just getting better and better? No, he is deserved. I don't think he's getting better or worse. He's maintaining his level. He's one of the most consistent goalers over the last 10 years. He's still got a bit of a clangour in him, but that's also part of the reason he's so good, because he's been... He's also one of the goalies... No, I mean, he did do the week. What was the ball he come for and just missed? He was that again? He was Arsenal? He was Arsenal? He's also one of the goalies that does it in the international state. He's helped England get to finals and semifinals, saving important penalties.

1:16:39Some of the saves he pulls out for Everton are just beyond bonkers. It's also a position that England have notoriously not been great in. And he's come in and just been completely solid. If you look at the goal He's one of the best Shot stoppers by far Pickford's class I love him Do you think He stays at Everton Now I do think This could be the chance For a bigger club He's signed a new contract He's settled He's settled 100 man I think He's not the most successful Of all time But do you reckon He's England's best ever keeper In our lifetime He's by far England's best goalkeeper Not even close Rob Green Not even Fuck that useless wanker Paul Robertson Of all time though You'd argue probably Gordon Banks Wouldn't you I guess I know I mean, I've not seen them.

1:17:20They didn't even wear gloves. Seaman? No. David James. Oh, yeah. James can play for England, so could I. Friend of the show. Well, lads, one of the reasons I've done this is three years ago you did this. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Let's see how it compares. In fairness, three years. Oh, who's going to have an hole? Who the fuck is Banu? They're a schoolkeeper. He was starting for me. He was good. Is he the Moroccan? Yeah. Morocco. He's won the AFCON, yeah. Where's he at? He just had a big World Cup as well. He did. Bonu's class. Should have kept him in. Theo, do you want to read through your top 10? All right, my top 10.

1:18:00This is in July 2023. This is not even that bad. This is actually pretty good, to be fair. July 2023. You're at seventh Neuer. He's gone up. Benu, is that good? Benu is at Al-Halal now. He's doing it for Morocco in the international state. Like Martinez. In 10, I had Oblak. In nine, Bonu. In eight, Mainan. Seven, Neuer. 6th Martinez 5th Donnarumma 4th Edison 3rd to Stegen 2nd Coutois 1st Allison that's pretty good that's actually alright 3 years ago that's not bad at all oh what the odds I have Nick Paul 100 % Nick Paul Reeve Reeve this isn't my prime Paul B era my list is 10th Neuer 9th to Stegen 8th Donnarumma 7th Edison 6th Boonoo oh god 5th Martinez that's horribly overrated 4th Oblak 3 Mainan 2 Coutois 1 Allison Mainan in 3 Oh, I'm so excited to see mine.

1:18:48I don't know what I would have thought. I think I've got poor play second. Well then, Tom, let's do you next. By the way, sorry, Bonu, La Liga, two Europa Leagues, loads of trophies in the past. I don't even know who that is. AFCON champion, by the way. Hell yeah. He's playing for Al Halal now, isn't he? But he's still doing it for Morocco on the international stage. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Keep saying that. I think he just... What was his problem with me? He wasn't really going, yeah? He's giving information. You're so defensive. I don't even mention it with Lillard. Yeah, he's also doing it. He's also saying it's fucking idiot.

1:19:19I don't even mention it. It's clear for our halal. Thank you. Clearly not listening, Will. Clearly not listening. I was literally about to have you back there and say he'd just won the Europa League of Sevilla. I know he did. But you know what? You need to open his case. Get off my case, mate. Get off his case. He's giving his information. He's like, stop giving me information, Will. Mate, he won the 2023 Africa door. It's the African Ballon d 'Or. All right. Thanks for clearing up what that meant, the Africa door. Africa door. I've never even heard of that. Right. Why don't we have the Europe door?

1:19:46My list was in 10th. Oh, no. Oh, my God. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, Darno. In fairness, he was unreal at Inter. Oh, yeah. Oh, fuck it. That's before he signed for United. Okay. I would love to see what you would say about it. Not honestly as class. Oh, no, no. It's hilarious. Had he signed for United at that point? Nah. Three year ago? No. No. No. Ninth Martinez, eighth Neuer.

1:20:19No, why are you laughing at that? Seven, Ram Steel. Yeah. Good job. Wait, was he at Arsenal? He was at Arsenal. That's when he had a really good season. Change over between him and Raya. I would have been really high. I wouldn't have decided. No, I don't think you'd signed Raya, Jeff. Was that not the loan? Was that the season? I think that year you then signed him and everyone was like, why have they signed Raya? Who's going to play? And obviously it was Raya. Yeah. Sixth, Mainan. Fifth, Oblak. Fourth, Edison. Three, to Stegen. Two, Courtois. One, Allison. Right. Ladies and gentlemen. That was so bad now, didn't it?

1:20:53Hold onto your hats, because you're about to see a Nick Pope top three, surely. What I'm going to say is yours is a bit of a roller coaster. Yeah. Let's see why. Okay, right. So my list. Seventh, Mainan. Seventh? It's been tenth, Mainan. Can't read. Ninth, I have got Neuer. In nine. We all had him low. Everyone had him low. Hope above Neuer. And he's going to be eighth. I've got Raya. I'm the only one who had Raya. Wait. Only one who had Raya. Oh, good me. And you actually say, I looked back at the clip, you say, just because he plays for Brentford doesn't mean he's not good enough. Right, guys, remember that.

1:21:29Remember that walk-up with Warren. Lewis, it's all about a couple crashing down. Seventh, I have got Martinez. Go on. Sixth, to Stegen. Fifth, Ramsdale. Can I explain this? He was good. I've wanted him badly. I've wanted him for ages. Where would he be now? Oh, he's staying right there. Fourth, all black. No, where's Pope? Third, Pope. That is so bad, mate. No, at the time, though, you have to remember. At this time. At this time. Never in his life been the third best goalie in the world. At the time, he was fucking there, mate. He's never been a top three goalie in the world. He's never been a top three goalie in the world.

1:22:10he was at that point. You've not even included England's number one, but you've included two and three. He should have been at that point. Freddie Henderson. He was fucking unreal this year. None of us have beat for this. Okay. Second, who have I got? Courtois, then first, Alisson. No Donnarumma. Did I put Donnarumma in? Yeah. Did we all have Donnarumma? I used to leave Donnarumma. I never used to write Donnarumma. I used to leave him out because of the Italy game out of complete bias. Who do you think had the best list? Probably me. At the time, And looking back now, who do you think had the best list?

1:22:43At the time, I can't really remember, but looking back now, I think Theo's got the best list. Yeah, potentially. Just based on who's still stayed at that level. Isn't it interesting looking back and seeing a player can just be good for a season? But actually, the better players... We've all whacked Martin is in there because of the back of the ballroom as well. And mine is funny looking back now, but at the time, Narno was unreal for him there. He was. He actually was. Come on, mate. Wait, United spent, what, 60 million on him? It couldn't have been that bad. When he signed for United, he spent 80 million on Anthony, mate.

1:23:21I mean. Yeah, he was fucking clever. Ah, yeah, he is. By the way, looking at the dates, he had just signed the week before for Man United. I'm in ball. When did Royer sign for Arsenal? 23. That summer. It was literally that summer. Probably off the back of him saying he's the best. Hey, I have the best take on there, guys. Nick Pope. You also had the worst. Third best goal in the world, Nick Pope. He was at the time. He was insane. He weren't even England's number one. That's when we were going to win everything. He weren't even England's number two. He weren't even England's number three. We were going to win everything that year.

1:23:55Henderson was number three. He was fucking on it that year. Boy, you are mental. I was living the high life there, though. We were taking over. We were going for the Champions League. It was the best year of my life. No, that was good. I love that. No, look at me. Oh, I love when we do that. Look back, it's so good, man. Oh, memories. Hey, guys, just remember to enjoy the present because soon it'll be a memory. I love you guys. Do you regret speaking sometimes? I love you. I love you guys. Love you too. I love you. Should we hug it out? No. You guys can say it if you want. I love you guys. Back at you, brother.

1:24:34Thank you. I can't even say it. Right, moving on. We've got a Man City and Arsenal all time. Oh shit. I've read this. Can't change your list. Can't change your list. Can't change your list. Whoa, whoa. Producer Will. Can't change your list. He can't change his list. No. The man you jumped on me. Take your phone off him. Can't change his list. Can't change your list. Who's this season? No. You can't change your list. You can't change your list. You can't change your list. You can't change your list. That's so bonkers. No, that is. Imagine I did that. You can't do it. You have to read it out. Tom, Tom, I'll let you do the all-time list.

1:25:11No, you're not. Listen, listen, listen. It's bomb bomb. Listen. We would never let anyone else redo it. I feel like a teacher. Are you mean me? Hey, Tom, we'll let you do the all-time list. But, but, you have to stare down the camera and apologise. Listen, you have to stare down the camera and apologise to every single pitch-side viewer. I'd have him at right back, just FYI. That's the all time. Over Kyle Walker. Not all time. Well, you clearly have, mate. That's the brief. I thought he was at the minute. You're about to fucking hell there. Don't worry, Tommy. Producer Will left you safe. No, don't worry, Tom.

1:25:48I won't let anyone think you don't know. No, no, no. I'll protect you, Tom. But, Tom, you've got to look down the camera and apologise for not doing your homework. No, no. He's got to do the name. No, he's got to read the list. Did Will just openly say he'd do the same for anyone? I don't mind. That's never been the rule. You have to read the list. I don't mind reading the list. It kind of defeats the object of the segment if I don't actually play along. I agree, I agree. But you should have let the press quickly do it. What about the England squad thing? You guys literally didn't let me do an England squad.

1:26:16No, but you didn't prep anything. It's a 23-man squad. I've done this many times, I never get a chance. You never get a chance. I was off on that England squad. You have to do it. Any time I get it wrong, I never get a chance. I'll do it. Any time. All right, then I'll do it. It kind of kills the segment. But I also do want to hear Tom's all-time 11. Hey, you just got to read the prep. I do think people will want to hear Tom's all-time 11. You just got to read the prep. As well. Because if the roles were reversed, if the foot was on the other foot. It has been. If the shoe was on the other foot.

1:26:45When I prep wrong, I got sheltered up. Exactly. And we just move on. Yeah. Tom gets catered to. Yeah. Before we get into that, lads. Stop pandering around him. I want it. I just want to make good content, Theo. Yeah. I think it can't just kill the segment if I've got this season's 11 in it. It would be interesting to hear. We'll do it. It's fine. I'd never do because I always prep correctly. It's fucking embarrassing. This is game style. We're doing it. You're getting your own way. Come on, let's do it. Before we get into it, I want your predictions for Sunday. One by one. 1-0. 1-0 Arsenal. 1-0 Arsenal.

1:27:18We're back, baby. If you win, it's the title of that dub. If you win, it's theirs. I don't even give me a prediction. Cheers, Will. No one cares. Okay, so some just like that. Don't worry, Will. I'll just go, F***.

1:27:31Go on, then. 2-0, Man City. I think Arsenal get a 1-0 result and everyone's going to go, Oh, my God, get back. I really don't see it happening. I do. I'm going 1-1. 87th minute winner, Jesus will come on and score. No, he won't. Anyway. You know, we've never done a Man City Arsenal combined 11. Have we not? No. Even though it's been like the title race for three years now? You're not really a comparable team, are you? All time. One team's a winner, one team isn't me. Arsenal have never won it, ever? Never. Not in my lifetime. Yes, they have. Sorry. Were you born? I'm not strange. Were you born?

1:28:10Oh, carry on. Jesus. Just do a team. Me? Yeah. Okay. Hey, guys. This is Lewis here, and I'm going to do a team. So my combined Arsenal and City all-time 11 is Donnarumma in goal. we've got Kyle Walker with Gabrielle and company with Ashley Cole Gabrielle and company Gabrielle? yeah I don't like Gabrielle but he is fucking class and he actually has a bit of fucking he's a fucking he's a fucking dickhead I don't think he's better well carry on you've got him above the likes of Saul Campbell yeah and he won the Invincibles like overall you have to remember like in the football I've watched I've seen more Gabriel than Saul Campbell like I was a fucking kid and also like fuck him what's Shearer what's Shearer he wouldn't fit into an arsehole he's also a striker I mean I think there's another name yeah same maybe there is KDB Vieira and David Silva you playing 4-3-3 oh yeah baby I was tempted not to and hey this might this might cause a raucous out here but I'm trying to make a team that's going to just fucking win games oh nice We're going Sterling Mahrez, Henri.

1:29:29Can you explain Sterling and Mahrez, please? You're actually keeping three pads. I get it if he's going 4-3-3 because that's probably the best front line. It's the best team, yeah. I think going wide to waste some of the best midfielders in the Premier League. I understand, but if I'm making it... The thing with these confined 11s, it's stupid if you shove in all the best names that doesn't work as a team. That as a team, I think, is the best. What's your midfield again? Vieira, KDB and David Silva. Nice, that. And then those two on the wing with Henry in the middle. I mean, come on. Everyone, the KDB, I'm for you.

1:30:02David Silva is fucking moving about. Vieira powerhousing. Perez. Could be a shout. Why did you choose them specifically? I think Sterling is actually criminally overlooked in general. Like, Sterling in his absolute prime at City was unbelievable. and just having them two playing off like with Henry in the middle that's fucking you can start trying to throw Perez's in but I don't think that's the best 11 that I'd be making I'd have Sanchez over Sterling I was playing wingers good shout for it I don't mind that I just love Sterling I've always like I just think he's overlooked a lot just because he sort of trailed off again I wanted I was looking at it I was trying to squeeze them in but I was like this wouldn't be the best team right I'll go then I've got David Raya Nunes Nunes at right back in an all all time it's crazy I'm mental Saliba Gabriel O 'Reilly O 'Reilly is your left back for an all time over Ashley Cole he's been doing it he's been doing it you think O 'Reilly is better than Ashley Cole he's been doing it Rodri Royce and Cherky because I've just again I've just proved it this season and then I've gone with Semenyo Harland and Ducky you've got Semenyo over that's it you're a fucking idiot you you're a fucking idiot you it's fucking crazy I don't know what I was thinking you haven't got Henri in an all time Manchester City no I was just thought Harland's obviously just unbelievable goal scorer no De Bruyne no obviously Declan Rice the best man we've ever in the world me or you mate because obviously that was fucking shit show after you darling there's a bit of revisionism going on here but I've put Edison in goal over Seaman you with Edison yeah I know I do but I just think he's probably been the best over David Seaman yeah big Dave yeah yeah yeah mate I mean the ponytail Dave I think I think the conversation would be between Donnarumma and Edison outright goalkeeper fuck that mate I'd put a lot of money on you never watching 90 minutes of David Seaman for Arsenal yeah alright

1:32:16I don't know how good he was Never watched Maradona 90 minutes either Kyle Walker at right back And then my two centre backs Saw Tony Adams And Vincent Company And then Ashley Cole At left back How many 90 minutes Of Tony Adams Have you watched? Not much But I know how fucking good he was Yeah there you go See Say that to him then You can't You're fucking scared mate You're scared Scared him Yeah I'm terrified You're now noticing The pattern of just like There's a I'm the only one Who doesn't fear that man Victim of Madonna I can't feel that man over there. I'll look him right in the eye. Okay.

1:32:48Midfield, I've got Vieira. Fucking back. KDB, Silva. And I'm going to go with Cesc Fabregas. So what formation are you playing here? Here? Four-two narrow, yeah. And then up front, I've got Henri and Haaland. And I know you're going to say it should be Aguero, but I think he's done enough now to warrant the space. Oh, I don't. Why Haaland over Aguero? When I was building the team, and you've got Kevin De Bruyne, David Silva, and Cesc Fabregas behind him, I think Haaland would be a bit more lethal than Sergio Aguero. He's got a three-man supply of some of the best passes. I think Aguero's clear of Haaland, mate.

1:33:23I don't know if that's nostalgia in me, but I feel like this season alone has made me more sure. The pattern link between De Bruyne and Haaland is enough in itself to warrant Haaland. And then you've got Fabregas and David Thiel. I can never remember Aguero having a season like Haaland. I know Haaland's still scoring loads of goals, but I can never remember Aguero having an off-season like this where he's not really involved in helping the team as much. Yeah, but if your off-season as a striker is still over 20 goals, that's pretty... I know, but that hides the truth of the performance of it. I know, but do you not think Haaland with a supply of Fabregas...

1:33:55So would Aguero? No, yeah. So would Aguero. I think Aguero is. To the level that Haaland scores at? I don't think Haaland... I don't think Aguero is a better finisher than Haaland. I don't think Haaland would be good with Henri, isn't that? I think Haaland is a bit... It would be all fucking... I mean, Haaland's probably the greatest goal scorer outright. I know why you're doing it. You just want to pick your fellow Viking, don't you? That's true. He is a Norseman. No, I totally get the argument for Aguero, but I just think if Haaland has those three behind him, like... Yeah, but imagine Aguero on real front.

1:34:25Well, you picked Haaland. I know, yeah. I don't even know. Does Haaland as well, when he signed the one, the treble, maybe tip it in his favour as well, was he finding the missing piece for Pep? You say that, but Foden played false nine in the year before and they won as well. I don't think City wouldn't have won the treble if Aguero was up front in his prime. Do you know what I mean? Forgetting how good Aguero was. It's hard to... No, I'm not putting Aguero down. I'm just saying... Sounds like you are. Sounds like you're calling him shit. Sounds like you don't like him. Why is he being like that to me?

1:34:53I could have chosen him. It's a better team than Tom. Yeah, that's true. But Haaland works good off great supply. And when you have these supplies... But Aguero, he runs in behind. Yeah, I know that bit, but I'm saying... Why don't you like Aguero? In terms of the passing ability of the people behind him, Haaland would get 40 goals a season. It's a fair shout out. If Haaland gets 40 goals a season, how many is Henry getting? Not that many. He's more of like a scorer and creator at the same time. So how many do you get? Still over 20, I think, in that team. 60 goals from the strikers alone. I got the right answer here.

1:35:30Okay. In goal, I got Dave Seaman. How many games of Dave Seaman you watch? More than you. Yeah, that's why I didn't have him on the team. Do you think he's a better keeper than Donnarumma Edison? I don't know. I didn't even think of Donnarumma. Really? I didn't even think of him. He's at Man City now. Yeah, I know. And he's won. I actually think I'm surprised you haven't put Raya in. I mean, it was, yeah, but I think Edison for his period. Are we talking about Donnarumma for his time at City or his career? City, isn't it? But also just like... Just this season. I'm not saying, so you're putting in Donnarumma.

1:36:03I didn't. Who did put Donnarumma? He did. No, yeah, but it's... So you're putting Donnarumma on the basis of one season at City. No, no. He plays for City, so I can put him in this team. I'm basing him off his ability as a player. His ability as a goalkeeper, I think he's the best. Yeah, first. Right back on Kyle Walker. Yeah. Center Arves of Tony Adams, Company, and Ashley Cole at left back. And then I've gone 4-2-2-2. So triple diamond thing. Vieira and Yaya Toure. Kevin De Bruyne, David Silva, Aguero, Henry. I think my team's the best. You only want to have Yaya Toure in. I actually was 50-50.

1:36:37Imagine a midfield of Vieira, Torre, David Silva and De Bruyne. That's too slow, that. They're all too slow. My team's the best here. That's too slow in the middle there. Your team is not the best. It definitely, as a football team, it is. Yours is fucking stupid. Harlan and Henry up front together. That wouldn't work. He's got fucking... Why would that not work? He's got Nuri right back. He's got Nuri. You've got like four slobs in the middle. There's no pace in the team. Why would Harlan not work? Yeah, but it's not going to get to them. You want someone to break the... You don't think... Sorry, what did you say?

1:37:09I've got three passes that can break the lines and I've got Haaland who's probably one of the best... Oh, Haaland-Henri. Yeah, as you just said. There's no one in the world who plays Haaland-Henri up front. You need to put them by themselves. They're the goal scorer. I just said the pace of Henri Agra out front. He said, but who's going to get it to them? David Silva, De Bruyne. There's no pace in that midfield, man. I'm fucking cocked you. You've got Karl Walker going up the wings if you wanted. Actually, Karl up the wings. Pretty fucking good team, though. Which team do you think's the best?

1:37:37Tom, I think it's good if we heard yours now. I went Fabregas out of the options.

1:37:46I'll probably go with the O's, I think. Fucking skum mark. Have you got an old I'm 11 in your head that you think you could... I'd go... Who'd you be a keeper? I'd go Raya in goal. Really, why? I just think the level he's shown in the last few years, between Raya and Edison, Joe Hart's not a bad show actually but no I'd go I'd go Raya Edison but I think maybe recency bias I just think Raya's amazing I think Raya's shot stopping outweighs Edison's if I go Raya I'd go does he need to win a title or do you think because your argument is trophies not necessarily I just think he's a better goalkeeper than Edison right fair Walker Walker Ashley Cole with the full backs centre halves I'd go I know we didn't watch we didn't watch Tony Adams live in the flesh.

1:38:36Everyone knows how good he is. As a leader. Adams' company has sent it off. The thing is, if I picked him, I couldn't comment on why I'm picking him. I'd be going off second. It's my list. The way he commands the defence. I just didn't watch him. The leader of Arsenal's titles. That's contradictory to how you previously make yours, though. Because didn't you put Kevin Keegan in? Yeah, but I have more an idea about Newcastle players, don't I? I've seen more bits of Newcastle players than I have at Arsenal. The thing you just said for why we've put him in. Yes. And I've just replied saying they're Newcastle players.

1:39:09So I know more about them. I don't know as much about Tony Adams as I do Kevin Keegan. Yeah, but that's Mary Donovan. That's why our argument is for Tony Adams. Yeah, no, I'm just arguing to him as why I didn't pick him. My defenders, I'd probably go company and Stones, probably. I forgot about Stones. Then midfielders. I did. I love John Stones as well. Why? Stones over Tony Adams. obviously he could barely play 30 games you didn't like company you said he was a fucking didn't even mean his goal I think he's overrated in terms of the best of all time I admit he meant the goal in this I admit he meant the volley or the strata volley what was the strata Campbell Campbell's got a great shout yeah but I just think he's a bit stiff on the ball I think in the modern game I think company is better than Campbell I think they were very similar them two midfield I'd probably go I think Vieira has got to be in there De Bruyne has got to be in there yeah and I think David Silva has got to be in there hell yeah my G so what formation are you playing I'd go a 4-1-2-1-2 I'd go a Diamond I'd go Vieira narrow Diamond De Bruyne Yaya Torre and David Silva and then up front I'd go Aguero and Omri so we've got the same team I'd be very tempted to put Van Persie in with Omri because I think he'd work really well with him you couldn't have over oh Van Persie over Haaland's interested I don't even think of Van Persie oh I'd have Van Persie over Haaland every day of the week why I just think he's a better a footballer by far.

1:40:33Silky as well. Yeah, he was at the end of Henri though, wasn't it? And the start of Van Persie. Are we not underplaying a little bit of how effective Haaland can be in teams? Haaland's an amazing goal scorer, but he can't chat to Van Persie as a footballer, can he? Reeve, are you the only one who's got Haaland in your team? I don't think so. I don't think he can. I think so. And that wasn't me trying to be contrarian because I know, I'm pretty sure everyone was going to go with Aguero if I'm honest. I'm surprised well you did didn't you no I went one striker so I I just think talking about outright goal scoring ability in winning games she wrote where does Van Persie compare to Haaland already in goals in the Premier League by the way have a look even if Haaland's close Van Persie's just better even if Haaland's close that's mad I mean Haaland's got 144 Haaland's got like 110 hasn't he Haaland's minute per goal is like the best in Premier League history that is mental 107 40th off already Oh my god He scored more than Darren Bent He scored more than Drogba More than Ronaldo More than Letizia More than Manistar More than Callum Wilson Oh shit Not a crazy thing to say Obviously projecting That he was going to Be the all time Premier League Goal scorer It's not crazy at all No but that was Kind of my logic Even if now I can include him Nah That'll never be Just because you I don't know Just because you scored The most Doesn't make you The best goal scorer Like Harry Kane's a better goal scorer than all of them Shearer He actually scored the most out of all of them as well Who?

1:42:06Kane He hasn't scored Not more than Shearer I'm talking about Shearer No I know but Kane is a better goal scorer than Shearer He just is He's done it in less games Yeah but like she was class on that That means Haaland should be in there Yeah but Haaland Yeah Does that know I wasn't on about I was on about the list he's obviously it's more to do with how many times He's actually argued against himself I wasn't arguing about Haaland I wasn't talking about Haaland I was on about the top ones here but I think the stat that reinforces my point the most is he's got the best minute per goal ratio ever but that would imply the only thing I'd say is like no matter which striker you pick you're going to get goals so it's like what else can they bring to the team it's like Haaland's going to bring goals but Guerreau's also going to bring loads of goals so what else are you bringing I wouldn't need that in a team with four of the best you wouldn't need it but you'd like it to be fair you wouldn't even need either striker you'd play with that team you could play with 10 men every week and not have a striker and you'd still win so it's like what else are they going to bring to the team?

1:43:01Because all the options bring goals. Haaland might bring a bit more. No, but... Haaland's great. No one's dissing Haaland, but I do think these strikers just have a lot more about them. The logic was, if he's getting that much supply from the greatest midfielders ever in Premier League history, he's probably going to score way more, isn't he? I do, yeah. I think... The midfielders... Who would you rather watch? Aguero Haaland? Aguero or Van Persie that doesn't distract from Harland being able to get more than him in a team where they're the people behind I don't know if he would you don't think Harland would get more goals than Aguero I don't know if he would in that team I really don't know if he would no he would because no play none of them would sacrifice the work outside the box like Harland doesn't get involved does he you can tell Aguero's like we've got all this you just fucking scoffing goals Harry Kane you're never going to stop them doing it they like to get involved with the play and Rooney going to just be but the team would be better alongside Henry Harland would be that focal point on the edge of the six yard box yeah Henry would drift wide that's what I'm saying Henry would never be that person some other notable omissions Bergkamp Perez Lundberg Campbell only one person had Fabregas Samir Nasri Bernardo Jesus the argument for Fabregas over Yaya was because of having Harland Jekyll yeah Pires and Jornburg Jornburg's definitely in this debate yeah what about the managers Wenger Pep Pep Pep isn't it what about the assistant manager yeah yeah Wenger could be assistant manager Pep Linders is that his name do you think Gabriel actually I'll take to come to the assistant yeah you think Gabriel at this point is better than Stone it's more I regret the Stone's one I regret the Stone's one because I didn't actually think of him.

1:45:01But if you compare him against the other ones, I just think in the modern game now, Gabriel and company, it's like the perfect mix of physicality and ability to actually play. And you said Rodri as well, right? Who's going to be the ball player? Yeah. No, did I? No, I don't know if I did. So no Rodri? I didn't have Rodri, no. Yeah, I was... Oh! Big, big breaking news. Someone's been sacked. West Brom facing a points deduction. Oh, no! West Brom has purportedly been charged over an alleged breach of financial rules, potentially blowing the championship relegation battle wide open. They currently sit at 20th spot in England's second tier, two points above the bottom three.

1:45:40Hasn't said yet. Oh, no. Would it come into effect this season? How the fuck have we broke financial rules when we've got no money? Would it come into effect this season? Or would it not be just like, next? No, Leicester got done this season. What the fuck? Would it be six like Leicester's then? Mate, you've been charged. You have been charged. Yeah, I know, but it doesn't mean you get a points deduction. Possibly minor. You'll probably just do a fine or some shit. Oh, no. Oh, God. West Brom and Leicester going down would be mental. Well, if it's a minor, they'll just do points. I mean, money.

1:46:15Yeah, we've got no money. What do you mean by that? Well, on that sad, sad note, Tom. Do you have a statement? yeah Tom can we have a statement request one please life is life soon we all die sweet warm death well make sure you drop a like and subscribe what more shit anyway all racing is better leave your 11s in the comments down below and golf yeah and darts I quit on that note bye bye